2024 Frontier Pro-4x here. Love this truck. Heavy steering? No telescoping wheel? Grow a pair. It's a truck. Wouldn't even consider a new Toyota. Frontier is a keeper.
Test drove a new tacoma it felt so odd that it came with electric steering, so light and doesnt have good road feel, glad this one still offers hydraulic steering that feels heavy, but good road feel
I was speaking to my tech at Nissan. He said he’d recommend the new Frontier to family and friends. Says it’s been extremely reliable…no consistent issues cropping up so far. My 2022 has 21K miles. Zero issues. It’s been a great truck so far.
@@Falinzin Me too. I bought my 2022 Pro X when they first came out and now have close to 30,000 trouble free miles and zero issues. I also like Toyota trucks but my last two vehicles have been Frontiers based on what you get for the price.
The Frontier is horrible off-road, that is the main problem with the truck. Even with a rear locker, the wheel braking to assist in difficult situation is horrible. And this is a fact, if you search online -- you will find this is the work midsize truck off-road out of all the major brand trucks available.
@@glow4417 Have you ever driven one off road? Because I’ve had a couple and shown up 80 and 200 series land cruisers. Most people I wheel with are constantly surprised how well they do so maybe you’re just reading something from people on the internet that don’t actually know what they’re talking about.
I currently own a 2022 Tacoma. I had a 2022 Frontier as a Co vehicle, as well as older Frontiers over the years. Head to Head the Frontier is a great truck that doesn't get enough credit. Even though I'm a Toyota guy, the Frontier redesign is a great truck. Their previous Frontier models were great trucks. You're right, a truck is a truck. Nice rig by the way.
Hey Man I hope you are enjoying your 23’ Frontier! I’m an engineer at the Mfg plan in Canton MS where we assemble it! A lot of the features that are missing that you mention (the quality of life ones like telo wheel and LWB Pro-4X) you mention are coming for 25’ great review also the info is valuable for us!
Hey, great to know! These are such great trucks and I've had several Nissan trucks now and they're really underestimated by many, so just trying to spread the word that they're actually great trucks and that these "issues" are essentially non-issues, in my opinion, for all the value you get with a Frontier for the money. Thanks for all you do!
I'm glad I found this channel. I just started my search for a quality truck to tow my car and go camping with. Love what you did to the truck and cant wait to see what more you do with it!
2023 pro4x owner here..i love mine…yes the steering is heavy at first (coming from a sedan) but after a few days of driving it, I actually really enjoy the steering…yes, turning radius isnt great but oh well, the 360 camera helps with 3 point turning etc…i love it!
@@nvpoolshooter I have one of each sitting in my driveway right now and swap between them a couple times a week and they seem pretty similar to me. 🤷♂
The drone shots are worth the like alone. Beautiful video. Steering is nothing. I often miss my old Mazda b2200 that had no assist steering. After a month I didn't even notice it.
Yeah, I had an '05 Xterra that didn't owe me a freakin nickel after 12 years. I did pre-emptively change the original radiator, but the thing went forever with regular maintenence. All I remember having to replace is the coil packs a few times. Replaced the Xterra with a 3 year old Wrangler in '17 and then had the complete opposite exerience! Just traded the Wrangler in on a' 23 Frontier (I like it!), but if they didn't discontinue the Xterra I'd probably be driving one now.
I own a rare '23 Pro 4X King Cab longbed. I absolutely love it. I agree the issues highlighted are incidental. I experienced the absolutely crazy programming of the cruise control. I took it in to the dealer and they reprogrammed it and it now works perfectly. I have done a few upgrades. I had some minor rear bumper damage and took the opportunity to install the Expedition One bumper. Much more robust. I also recently saw a screaming deal on a performance package from Z1 (cat back exhaust, air intake system, plenum spacer and Ecutek flash). It made the already great engine much more daily driveable. The exhaust is slightly louder than I would have like under load, reasonably quiet highway cruising on flats.
Sounds like some tasteful mods! Congrats on the longbed too. The cruise was the worst part of the truck, but to your point, the flash fixes it all and it's great now.
I bought a 2024 about a month ago. My complaint is always having to remember to push the auto stop-start button every time I fire it up. That feature should be defaulted to OFF and only turned on if the driver wants it. Also I'm 6'3 and my knees are hella close to the dash with the seat all the way back. Other than that, no complaints! This truck is awesome
Yeah, I also turn off the auto start/stop every time I get in. Unfortunately, that's not a Nissan thing and more a governmental regulation thing. Seems all vehicles in the next 10 years or so will have that feature and it won't be able to be disabled, :(.
@@3RAN7ON Agreed. I turn mine off every time. They say that the starter’s more robust and the battery is bigger and that is supposed to offset it but I still feel like you’re gonna be replacing a starter every 50 to 60,000 miles.
To easily defeat the auto stop start, cut a sliver of thin plastic and slide into to area between the button and it's surround. It holds the button in. I cut a black plastic push on clip around it head used that and it's almost invisible in place.
No kidding, Im actually old enough to remember when people used to prefer a little more weight to their steering. They called it a "Euopean steering feel" because American cars were known for having very light steering with no communication. And after my negative experience with the electric steering assist on my wifes Chevy Malibu I prefer a conventional power steering pump anyway
@jeanclaude7018 I laugh everytime I see some reviewer pecking around and rubbing on the plastic interior of a new model truck talking about the "quality" of the plastics. Are they gonna drive the damn thing or make love to it
Just bought a 2024 Pro-4X. Bluestone Pearl. I understand the steering concern, but not a focus. All in all, mine will never be an off-road grinder. Totally a boat hauling machine [4K I/O boat] with the looks and accessories that fill my demands. The Fender sound is a must have! All in all, cruise and shift pattern is not anything that grabs me. Yet. at 1,500 miles... I'm still feelings things out, but totally in love! Great video! Thanks!
I love that color. I also like the Fender audio. For the money, sure you could buy speakers and replace everything, but I'm not in high school anymore and just wanted it already in the truck and it's good enough for me. Congrats on the trucks guys!
I love how these comments are primarily all positive comments and not hate towards other brands. i can not tell you how many times I have seen a Toyota channel or something about how "supreme Toyotas, especially Tacomas are to all other vehicles. I love Toyotas and not every Toyota person is that way, but more than any other brand I've seen Toyota to be the most toxic and hateful to anyone else such as showing all the faults and issues of cars From Subaru on road hatchbacks to Big beefy Jeeps and all the others. Love this video, and all the people in the comments.
Good point! I generally try not to bash other brands as I think Toyota makes great vehicles, but I have noticed that the majority of the comments have been positive. Glad the community is pretty nice.
My husband test drove a 23 Tacoma and a 23 frontier. He said the braking felt like there was hesitation like a dead space. He ended up with the Frontier. Honestly he loved his last one and I knew he would pick Frontier. Now my son inherited his old one that still runs strong!
having worked for nissan (retired 4 yrs), it's simply relieving to see near zero comments from trolls. i would seriously consider a frontier if it weren't for the fact a manual transmission is not available. my '90 v6 hardbody 1-ton truck will probably outlast me so unless i just gotta have that new car (truck?) smell, it's a keeper. thanx for the vid.
Thanks for working for Nissan! I truly love the company and it sucks to see them going through tough financial times when they do make some great vehicles. Are they all perfect, no, but they definitely don't deserve all the hate they get. Great vehicles for a reasonable price.
Thanks! I love cardinal red. I really wanted one of the couple of red options but could only find Gray when I bought my truck. It’s growing on me, but the red is really sharp.
@@AllThingsOverlanding Honestly, your gray was my 2nd choice. The only thing that I would change on our model is the cargo lamp switch. I am so use to pushing the top of a toggle to turn things on. On our Nissan's you push the bottom to turn the cargo lamps on. An indicator light would also have been nice. If I can get the switch out in the future, I might add an LED lamp right near it myself. Other than that, I love every bit of my truck.
I just bought a used 2023 Pro-4x 3 weeks ago. I took it out on the K-Trail in Oklahoma and the only issue I had is clearance. I see a lift in the future. Since I bought this strictly for trailing and camping, it's the right size for me. There are a couple of hills that I have to go up getting to our place in OK that every vehicle I have shoots up to 4000+ rpm if I have the cruise on so that's not a big deal. Since I have to drive 4 hours or more to get to any good trails I wanted something that felt as good on road as it does off, and gets good gas mileage. I am getting about the same mpg as I do in my modified Forester. I did consider an SV king cab but the price for a used base SV was only 2K less than the fully loaded Pro-4x I purchased.
I felt fancy springing for the Pro-4x until I looked at the difference in prices too. Seemed like a good deal for all the extra features of the Pro-4X plus then I didn't have to add or modify anything as it had everything I wanted.
Heavy steering... I'm a very petite 5 foot woman and I have driven these and its so easy... and I hear guys complain its "heavy" lol... The Frontier is easy to drive and drives great. I do hate small beds though... 6ft bare minimum for me, but I don't care to do crazy off-road stuff where it matters.
Bought a a '24 SV because I wanted a king cab. A 6' bed is more valuable to me than a little backseat I would never use. Having said that, I wish the SV had a rear locker and LED headlights. I used to own a 3rd gen Taco, and getting used to the Frontier turning radius is hard. Love your vids.
My 2022 is perfect but I hear bubbling and sloshing when I accelerate. I DONT KNOW WHAT it is??? I filled ac fluid all the way past max cause that’s what I was told to do but it’s still there.. anyone???
I've heard that too and that it has something to do with the heater. I forget exactly what, but if you check out any 2022+ Frontier FB group, I'm sure you'll see multiple posts about it with solutions.
Awesome review The important thing about any steering configuration is THAT it steers. I have the Frontier S 4x4 & I LOVE IT. My advise for some would be, to get what you like and works for you - Me? I want light trails get through the snow functionality over gadgets, electronics and cup holders what I have is exactly what I want a mid-size 4x4 with a V-6. I love Toyota I own 2 a Sienna and Camry. I looked for a Tacoma 4x4 with a 6 cyl which are now unicorns for all intents and purposes. My only other choice would be a Ram which is just too much vehicle for my purposes. It all boils down to preferences and everyone has their very own -
I have a 2023 Pro4x. I installed the OEM Titan # 2016951 aluminum diff cover I think it is from a 2015, made by Spicer, on Ebay for around 110.00 shipped came with the bolts and fill plug. I also used the Lube Locker gasket # LLR-N44D. I have zero leaks and the cover looks really good. You will have to fab a bracket for the brake cable, but that was easy, I went to Home Depot in the lumber deck section got a galvanized small L bracket for 2.00 and trimmed it down and drilled 2 holes, worked great.
I've had my 22 S model for a yr and a half, and have been very happy with it. Does everything I need it to do. Most of the complaints you mention are just folks jumping on the bandwagon when they see other people complain. I couldn't care less about "heavy" steering, turning radius, lack of telescopic steering wheel, etc. The rear diff will need to be addressed at some point, but like you, I don't see it as a major concern.
Hey, I’m sitting in Zambia right now watching your video. On my 2023 Pro 4x my issues are the drivers seat reclining back after turning the truck off, the radio randomly turning on and one of the USB-C stopped working. All these will be sorted out at the dealer when I return. I’ve had my truck since February and have put 17k miles on it. One trip I drove from Nashville TN to Santa Fe NM and back in 2 days. This is the most comfortable vehicle I’ve ever owned. I had zero aches and pains after driving all day. Zero problems with the truck and I averaged 21 mpg. I guess the only issue that I can’t fix is you really can’t do a proper U-turn because it doesn’t turn sharp enough. Love the truck and would buy again.
I realized it was actually my leg hitting the recline button when I would get out of the truck. The longer it took me to get out of the truck, the lower the seat would go 🤣 I am not sure if that is the case for everyone, but that is what happened to me.
@@BroncoManiac777 That's what I've heard is that somehow people are hitting the power buttons on the side of the seat and that's moving it. I've never had it happen in mine.
Owner of a loaded 22 Pro-4x. Absolutely no regrets with this truck. As an interior nerd I have to say this is one of the best places you could sit for a long drive. The amazing seats, the layout, the excellent NVH and decent sound system. All make for a great road trip companion.
@@TheGeneral1861 Yes. It's not the best sound system I've ever heard but it's completely adequate. And I'm saying that as someone who enjoys music and good stereo.
@@Journey_of_Abundancethank you for the reply. The closest local dealer doesn't have a frontier with the fender sound system. I'm looking at them, currently in a 22 ltz Z71 Silverado with the Bose system.
@@TheGeneral1861 I've not heard the standard stereo, but I'm sure it would be worth holding out for one with the Fender if good stereo is important to you.
Thank you so much for letting me know about the cruise control fix. I have the exact same 2023 pro4x as you color and all and when I went in to get my last free oil change from the dealership I asked them about a download to fix for the cruise control and they told me there wasn't anything. I gotta be honest that really pees me off and if they pull that again I'm gonna go off on them
No problem! Dealers can be pretty dumb. Mine was pretty helpful and looked it up, but my service writer said that it was kind of tricky to find. Took a bit. If it helps, I looked it up and I believe this is the TSB number they need to search for. Maybe that will help them find it: TSB NTB24-005 Here's the source where I found that too: www.tsbsearch.com/Nissan/NTB24-005
Great truck. The 2022s came without the forced auto start stop which is definitely a benefit. They have the same engine and transmission as the 2020 and 2021 so that’s a benefit. When I bought mine a year and a half ago there were almost no used ones and it was during the height of the market when people were asking crazy prices for used or I would’ve bought a used 2022 probably.
If you’re having trouble parking this truck in a parking spot, there’s a good chance it’s lack of driver skill. I’d also imagine you would have the same trouble parking every truck
I have a 22 P4X, 85K miles, no issues. Love the steering. It isn’t heavy, it’s feedback. Plus it only feels heavy at slow speed on pavement. Parking, you do gotta plan ahead, cut a little wide. The update for the CC is awesome. Love my cruise now. Works like it should have from the beginning. The complaint I hear is camera resolution. Back up cam is fine, I don’t need it to be 4K. The front cam, would be nice if it were clearer. Fine for parking, but on the trails, sharper would be nice. But steep climbs where all you see is sky out the windshield, the cam does its job.
All great points. I've tried to use the front camera off road and the resolution is so bad that it's tough to tell a rock from a puddle, haha. Also don't need 4K but just a little better would be nice.
Have you had any problems with the new 3.8L and 9speed trans? I want a frontier and the newest year I can get that still has the 4.0L 5spd trans is a 2019. It changed in 2020+. Is the new 3.8L worth it is what I'm saying. and at 85kmiles, seems like youre doing ok
I have over 14,000 miles on my 2023 Pro4X with no issues or complaints. It’s a great off road vehicle, and handles just fine on the highway. The ProX4 brings a smile to my face every time I have the opportunity to drive it.
I have a 2023 Pro4X and the transmission shifting was wonky and the cruise control was almost unusable. I took it to the dealer and told them about the tech bulletin. They were not aware of it but looked it up and after a couple of hours I got my truck back and it was a completely different truck. The cruise control works perfectly and the shifting is overall more consistent.
@GSPDUCKDOG: Prior to the tech bulletin, was your transmission wonky, specifically at lower speeds? Mine seems to act up and can be fairly harsh shifting between 20 and 35mph. Zero issues highway driving, very smooth. Did the bulletin correct the problem?
Yes mine shifted harsh a in the 15-25 MPH range and occasionally at other speeds in addition the the cruise control shifting being a complete nightmare. The tech bulletin procedure fixed it all.
My transmission got worse after the update. And it was perfect before. I did the update because of the cruise control. Worst part it didn't change it. Still shift down like a mad man.
I like Toyotas too and I won't argue that they aren't historically more reliable. But, I've also had really good luck with a number of Nissans and they are a great buy for the money generally.
The limited turning radius is to keep you from flipping. It’s not corvette kids also old hydraulic steering is great so everyone back to the gym that’s complaining or go drive an old 90’s hardbody with no power steering then you won’t complain.
ADO RC Killa lift and 285/70R17 Kenda Klever RT’s. Here’s a vid that walks through the suspension in full and touches on the tires if it helps! 3rd Gen D41 Nissan Frontier - Modified All Dogs Offroad RC Killa Suspension Kit for Overlanding ruclips.net/video/Erz-3muZz_0/видео.html
24 Ford Ranger 4x4 - 20-24 mpg 24 Colorado 4x4 - 19-23 mpg 24 Tacoma 4x4 - 20-23 mpg 24 Frontier Pro4x - 18-22 mpg I don't think you lost anything but the potential longevity problems of a turbo-4.
Great video! I don’t own a truck yet but I’m definitely in the market. I saw a few reviewers complain about the front skid plate having too big of a gap? Is that even notable or an issue?
I haven't had any issues with it. If you're really going to offroad these trucks, you'll want aftermarket skid plates anyways. If you're mostly hitting forest service roads and want some protection but don't plan to use it much, the stock stuff is nice piece of mind.
my 2008 Fronty had a grab handle on the A pillar. my 2014 Xterra does as well. i use it constantly. getting in and out, slow speed off road jostling, and when i'm just going down the road, i often just stretch my arm out and hold on to it. i lament that this is no longer the case on the new Fronty.
@@AllThingsOverlanding i think lots of people don't care, don't ever use them. i'm on the opposite side, i use it constantly. i don't know why, i just do. i'm very tall and lanky and it's easy for me to reach and comfortable. i have searched and found aftermarket ones that you can macgyver as long as there is no airbag on the pillar.
I have my first Nissan 2024 pro 4x same color as yours boulder gray I put a bed cover on it I love mine so far but I only have 1200 miles so a long ways to go
Haven't had to deal with it, but I would imagine it's probably equally difficult as it just becomes "manual" at that point. Just no power steering like older cars at that point.
the worst complaint is the small back seat. Really?? don't buy a midsized truck then...right?? Buy a 4 door sedan or a full size truck if rear passenger leg room is important to you. seems stupid to complain about.
It has 4 doors so people expect the backseat to be useful if no they why even have those 2 extra door. It might not be as spacious as a previous gen tundra which is massive but if a backpack is wider than the seat then that’s probably what they are complaining about. Last time I checked one out I was able to fit 2 car seats back there but I am very short so my seats are closer to the front 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah, it's a midsize truck backseat, so despite the 4 doors, it's not got a ton of space. But, I've had 3 people in the backseat and it's tight, but you can definitely do it. I probably wouldn't drive across the country with 5 passengers, but it's possible, haha.
Or maybe manufacturers can simply extend the cabins by 6 to 8 inches. However, they won't do that in order to milk ppl of all their money. The only other option is to buy a full-size pickup, but that costs an extra $15k to 20k. Also, most ppl dont need the power of a half-ton pickup anyways. A midsize truck with about 38" of rear legroom would make a lot of ppl happy.
Absolutely agree with your assessment on all. None of these are actual problems. I absolutely love my pro 4X and I think nitpicking and comparing to the new turbo 4S with all the new crap there's going to be a lot of interest in the pro 4X in the Nissan and I think people are going to have great luck with it
I love these trucks and can’t wait to get mine. My only complaint, mind you it’s coming from a non owner, the infotainment has 1st gen Blackberry sized bezels. The cab could be 6 inches longer for the rear seated people and the cameras are dated looking. None of these are gonna keep me out of one.
Haha, good point. Part of why I like the new Frontier is it's based on the previous gen and they kept what worked and updated the rest (interior, exterior looks, technology) to catch up with the competition while still offering a solid, reliable truck. My only long term concerns are the technological additions and how those sensors will hold up, especially with a decent amount of offroading and potential abuse.
Yeah, I'm 5'-11, never missed the telescopic wheel, after a week or two I didn't even notice the heavy steering anymore. At times I still do wish it had a tighter turning radius. Beware of parts availabilty being a PROBLEM. My alternator went at 18,000 miles, it sat at the dealership for 7 WEEKS waiting for an alternator, of all things! Love the truck otherwise, though.
I have a 2023 as well and my only complaints are the front seats are kinda small for bigger folks, the back up camera has crappy resolution, and the infotainment screen is slow at start-up. The complaints you mentioned, I have no idea what those folks are talking about
I can tell you the front seats have always been an issue for some people. Was that way with the Xterra and previous Frontier. I did notice it on my Xterra, but I did get used to it, so when it came to this Frontier I didn't notice it.
100% agree with Fletch about the steering. Heavy steering was what I had on my '69 &' 78 Chevy C-10's and 65 Mustang which all had manual steering. Man up America! Don't be a wuss.
Just bought a 2024 frontier SV, it may not have all the bells and whistles like the Pro-X but it’s got convince package, I hope to get a pro-x but as for now, I love this truck
Nice! So much of them are the same. The Pro-4X just adds some nice stuff, but they're basically the same as the SV mechanically. Congrats on the truck!
Wife wants/needs a truck for her job. Currently in a RAV4 but limited on payload. I’m thinking the Frontier so she can put mixers and drink machines in the bed vs the back of her car. Going to take the hit on gas mileage but 8-12k less than Tacoma. She puts 30k per year on her vehicle will the Nissan handle that? How often are service intervals?
They're pretty low maintenance honestly. They recommend oil changes every 7500 but I do them about every 5K. I believe you're supposed to service the rear diff (drain and replace fluid) between 30 and 50K which is pretty easy. For the most part, they don't need much.
Thanks! I do wonder if these people are just buying these trucks sight unseen and then hopping in and saying "Wait a minute...this drives like a truck?!" :D
I've never noticed the steering feeling overwhelming. Parking it feels just as easy as any similar sized vehicle. Plus the 360° camera makes it even easier.
I bought my 2024 Nissan Pro X a year ago. I love the truck; although I don't off-road, I do pull a camper. It's great. I had an issue with the transmission at month 11, when the truck jumped out of gear. They ran the computer test, and Nissan said to replace the transmission. They did, and all is good. The replacement is less noticeable in the shifting of gears than what came originally. I agree; the price and styling are tops. I hurt the Toyota dealer salesman's feelings when I said the Nissan had a better style than the Toyota. :) PS Mine is Bouller Gray like yours. A very sharp look. Thanks for the video.
I really like this truck. I'm an old Toyota guy myself but Nissan is really beginning to shine. And that's an excellent idea about getting the SV & upgrading the rear diff for a lot less money. Thank you for that. Edit:typo
I like that idea, But wonder if that void's the warranty? My 23' sv 4x4 plain jane get's around alright, but ass end slides around a bit. Think this winter i'm gonna throw some sandbags in the back and see if that helps. But would love to get a locker !
@@timberlineconstruction1181 yeah, it is tight into the driveline so there are some concerns there. You could always run it for the first few years without and then upgrade it later once you’re out of warranty anyways. You might find out you don’t really use as much as you thought or that, it’s not necessary.
Yep, missed that. It's not huge, but also not unusable at all. Works great for my 11 and 14 year old and also holding lots of gear when the kids aren't with me.
Thanks! Pretty sure I cover all that in this suspension set up (including tires): 3rd Gen D41 Nissan Frontier - Modified All Dogs Offroad RC Killa Suspension Kit for Overlanding ruclips.net/video/Erz-3muZz_0/видео.html
The all dogs Offroad RC killa kit (which is what I’m running) gives you about 1.5” up front with a longer replacement coil and then about 2” I. The back with an add a leaf. If it helps, I did a video walking through my suspension set up here: ruclips.net/video/Erz-3muZz_0/видео.htmlsi=bGKogydN4AiweIGQ
I tow a 3000+ lbs travel trailer on bi weekly basis to my favorite weekend getaway in northern Florida with my 2022 Nissan Frontier Pro 4x. The truck has no problem pulling the trailer up them tall suspension brigdes and overpasses here Jacksonville.
Yeah, I forgot it, lol. My point was going to be that I'm 6'2" and I can fit back there, although it is tight. Still, way better than a crew cab and totally usable for kids and adults in a pinch. Good eye! You're the first one to notice I missed it, haha.
Just bought a 24 pro4x and I'm very happy. All of the gripes i have are just that, inconvenient. Nothing deal breaking and for 25% less than a 🌮, yess sir!!
I have only purchased the e-locker for a Titan rear end, but they should either be the same or very similar. If you search for Nissan Frontier M226 rear end, you should find some options. The one I bought was a Spicer e-locker which I believe is the OEM unit.
Agree. It's not a huge deal and you wouldn't HAVE to do anything about it, but it's just a thing I guess. Not ideal, but not as bad as ECU problems or Trans problems like I've had with other makes.
Thanks great vid. Im In the market for an older 4x4 frontier. 2007-2015. Is there a particular year to avoid or shoot for considering longevity of the engine over everything else. I want it to last and be dependable long term. Appreciate any info.
Thanks! All the 2nd gens are pretty great. You're pretty close to the best years of them too in your range there. I believe 08 was the preferred year because by then they had addressed all of the SMOD issues on these engines (in the Xterra and Frontier-check out clubfrontier.org and search "SMOD" and you'll see more on that). I still have an 08 sitting in my driveway with 220K miles on it and it still runs great. Of course, if you can find a 2015 with decent mileage, those would probably be your best bet if they fit in the budget.
I have a 2023 Pro 4X. I got used to the heavy steering pretty quickly. I do find the lack of telescoping steering pretty annoying. I'm 6' and constantly adjusting the seat because I always feel like either my legs are cramped or the wheel is too far away. Gas mileage has been not great in the city. Generally I'm pretty happy with it though. It's a sharp looking truck and I like the shifting of the 9 speed.
Yeah, these trucks have never been great on gas. I'm coming from a 2008 2nd gen Frontier with a Titan swap and 35's to this so my gas mileage before 33's was almost double my old truck and even with a lift, 33's, and lots of gear, I'm still probably getting about 7-8 MPG better than my old truck, so there's a bit of bias there for me.
I just picked up a 23 SV. I notice it has a crackling popcorn sound when the exhaust is cooling when the truck is off. I know vehicles often do this but this is at a new level on this truck. Even if the truck is warm and is running i can slightly hear it if my window is down. Anyone upgrade the exhaust and did this sound improve?
My biggest complaint about the 3rd Gen is that I don't have one...
😂 I wish more people were like you.
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Just got mine and I love it
😂😂 Join the club...it's great!
I’m about to get one. Hard to find a fully loaded Pro-4x in Baja storm for less than $47k where I’m at
2024 Frontier Pro-4x here. Love this truck. Heavy steering? No telescoping wheel? Grow a pair. It's a truck. Wouldn't even consider a new Toyota. Frontier is a keeper.
Yep!
Problem is most trucks now days are just luxury sedans with a bed and a lift. I love the Frontier. The last true truck out there
@@nicksmith8166 Agreed!
Except if you have a pair, you care about off-roading ability and Frontier is horrible off-road -- even with a rear locking diff.
Test drove a new tacoma it felt so odd that it came with electric steering, so light and doesnt have good road feel, glad this one still offers hydraulic steering that feels heavy, but good road feel
I was speaking to my tech at Nissan. He said he’d recommend the new Frontier to family and friends. Says it’s been extremely reliable…no consistent issues cropping up so far. My 2022 has 21K miles. Zero issues. It’s been a great truck so far.
Yep!
Same, bought my 2022 off the first batch of trucks that got dropped off at the dealership, approaching 40k miles, absolutely zero issues.
@@Falinzin Me too. I bought my 2022 Pro X when they first came out and now have close to 30,000 trouble free miles and zero issues. I also like Toyota trucks but my last two vehicles have been Frontiers based on what you get for the price.
I just bought a 2022 frontier pro 4x…my only complaint is that I dont own 2.
👍 love it
The Frontier is horrible off-road, that is the main problem with the truck. Even with a rear locker, the wheel braking to assist in difficult situation is horrible. And this is a fact, if you search online -- you will find this is the work midsize truck off-road out of all the major brand trucks available.
@@glow4417 Have you ever driven one off road? Because I’ve had a couple and shown up 80 and 200 series land cruisers. Most people I wheel with are constantly surprised how well they do so maybe you’re just reading something from people on the internet that don’t actually know what they’re talking about.
@@glow4417 over the curse of the two weeks I've watched several videos of third gen Frontiers and I saw no problems with the truck doing going road.
Just picked up a 2025 Pro-4x today - holy crap this is a beautiful truck!
Nice and congrats!
Congrats💪🏽😎
Nice, I'd like one
I currently own a 2022 Tacoma. I had a 2022 Frontier as a Co vehicle, as well as older Frontiers over the years. Head to Head the Frontier is a great truck that doesn't get enough credit. Even though I'm a Toyota guy, the Frontier redesign is a great truck. Their previous Frontier models were great trucks. You're right, a truck is a truck.
Nice rig by the way.
Appreciate it and no hate to Toyotas at all. Both great trucks!
Hey Man I hope you are enjoying your 23’ Frontier! I’m an engineer at the Mfg plan in Canton MS where we assemble it! A lot of the features that are missing that you mention (the quality of life ones like telo wheel and LWB Pro-4X) you mention are coming for 25’ great review also the info is valuable for us!
Hey, great to know! These are such great trucks and I've had several Nissan trucks now and they're really underestimated by many, so just trying to spread the word that they're actually great trucks and that these "issues" are essentially non-issues, in my opinion, for all the value you get with a Frontier for the money. Thanks for all you do!
What is LWB?
@@bobbylee3567 I would guess long wheel base.
My 2022 sv transmission went out at 74,000 miles
@@elijahgrant7519 That sucks. Just randomly? Any symptoms? What was the diagnosis of what happened?
I'm glad I found this channel. I just started my search for a quality truck to tow my car and go camping with. Love what you did to the truck and cant wait to see what more you do with it!
Thanks so much and welcome to the channel!
Your timing is impeccable. Going to take a look on them now.
Nice! They're great trucks, but just make sure none of these little quibbles are problematic for you. I love mine.
Most of the complaints I think come from people driving other vehicles instead of this one. Great breakdown
Agreed.
Considering this vehicle above others. Thank you for this video.
No problem! Glad it was helpful!
2023 pro4x owner here..i love mine…yes the steering is heavy at first (coming from a sedan) but after a few days of driving it, I actually really enjoy the steering…yes, turning radius isnt great but oh well, the 360 camera helps with 3 point turning etc…i love it!
Agreed!
Is the turning radius any better than the previous model the second gen?
@@stephenhumma4772 Basically the same.
@@AllThingsOverlandingWrong. Not even close. Gen 3 turns on a dime compared to the Gen 2. I know because I've owned both.
@@nvpoolshooter I have one of each sitting in my driveway right now and swap between them a couple times a week and they seem pretty similar to me. 🤷♂
The drone shots are worth the like alone. Beautiful video.
Steering is nothing. I often miss my old Mazda b2200 that had no assist steering. After a month I didn't even notice it.
The first manual truck I ever drove was my dad’s Mazda B 2200, 😀. I think these people are crazy personally.
I think it’s a great looking truck. As an owner of a 2013 Xterra PRO-4X my only complaint is that I can’t get a 2024/25 Xterra PRO-4X.
We all want a new Xterra. Totally with you on that!
I saw somewhere that there's a 2025 in the works but who knows.
If Nissan was intelligent at all, it would bring the Xterra back like yesterday...
Yeah, I had an '05 Xterra that didn't owe me a freakin nickel after 12 years. I did pre-emptively change the original radiator, but the thing went forever with regular maintenence. All I remember having to replace is the coil packs a few times. Replaced the Xterra with a 3 year old Wrangler in '17 and then had the complete opposite exerience! Just traded the Wrangler in on a' 23 Frontier (I like it!), but if they didn't discontinue the Xterra I'd probably be driving one now.
You can now get the 6 foot bed in Pro4X
Yep! 2025 or after has it now.
I own a rare '23 Pro 4X King Cab longbed. I absolutely love it. I agree the issues highlighted are incidental. I experienced the absolutely crazy programming of the cruise control. I took it in to the dealer and they reprogrammed it and it now works perfectly. I have done a few upgrades. I had some minor rear bumper damage and took the opportunity to install the Expedition One bumper. Much more robust. I also recently saw a screaming deal on a performance package from Z1 (cat back exhaust, air intake system, plenum spacer and Ecutek flash). It made the already great engine much more daily driveable. The exhaust is slightly louder than I would have like under load, reasonably quiet highway cruising on flats.
Sounds like some tasteful mods! Congrats on the longbed too. The cruise was the worst part of the truck, but to your point, the flash fixes it all and it's great now.
I bought a 2024 about a month ago. My complaint is always having to remember to push the auto stop-start button every time I fire it up. That feature should be defaulted to OFF and only turned on if the driver wants it.
Also I'm 6'3 and my knees are hella close to the dash with the seat all the way back.
Other than that, no complaints! This truck is awesome
Yeah, I also turn off the auto start/stop every time I get in. Unfortunately, that's not a Nissan thing and more a governmental regulation thing. Seems all vehicles in the next 10 years or so will have that feature and it won't be able to be disabled, :(.
@@AllThingsOverlanding that's just crazy, it causes way more stress on the starter & battery to literally save only milliliters of fuel
@@3RAN7ON Agreed. I turn mine off every time. They say that the starter’s more robust and the battery is bigger and that is supposed to offset it but I still feel like you’re gonna be replacing a starter every 50 to 60,000 miles.
To easily defeat the auto stop start, cut a sliver of thin plastic and slide into to area between the button and it's surround. It holds the button in. I cut a black plastic push on clip around it head used that and it's almost invisible in place.
@@vauclainwalschaerts5424 Heard that! It hasn’t annoyed me that much that I’ve messed with it but that is an option.
Steering on these is awesome, compared to some other options I test drove. The people who disagree probably should invest in a gym membership.
😂
No kidding, Im actually old enough to remember when people used to prefer a little more weight to their steering. They called it a "Euopean steering feel" because American cars were known for having very light steering with no communication. And after my negative experience with the electric steering assist on my wifes Chevy Malibu I prefer a conventional power steering pump anyway
@jeanclaude7018 I laugh everytime I see some reviewer pecking around and rubbing on the plastic interior of a new model truck talking about the "quality" of the plastics. Are they gonna drive the damn thing or make love to it
@@edjackson4389 I'd laugh too if they were around 30k...at these prices, I want to feel like I'm in a cabin that corresponds to the price levels.
@@kevinstarski1598 It's still gonna be 98% some form of plastic even if its $100k truck, or a modern luxury car. That's never gonna change
Just bought a 2024 Pro-4X. Bluestone Pearl. I understand the steering concern, but not a focus. All in all, mine will never be an off-road grinder. Totally a boat hauling machine [4K I/O boat] with the looks and accessories that fill my demands. The Fender sound is a must have! All in all, cruise and shift pattern is not anything that grabs me. Yet. at 1,500 miles... I'm still feelings things out, but totally in love! Great video! Thanks!
I bought a 24 Pro4x with Bluestone Pearl as well. I love it.
I love that color. I also like the Fender audio. For the money, sure you could buy speakers and replace everything, but I'm not in high school anymore and just wanted it already in the truck and it's good enough for me. Congrats on the trucks guys!
@@rcb361blue pearl❤❤❤❤
I love how these comments are primarily all positive comments and not hate towards other brands. i can not tell you how many times I have seen a Toyota channel or something about how "supreme Toyotas, especially Tacomas are to all other vehicles. I love Toyotas and not every Toyota person is that way, but more than any other brand I've seen Toyota to be the most toxic and hateful to anyone else such as showing all the faults and issues of cars From Subaru on road hatchbacks to Big beefy Jeeps and all the others. Love this video, and all the people in the comments.
Good point! I generally try not to bash other brands as I think Toyota makes great vehicles, but I have noticed that the majority of the comments have been positive. Glad the community is pretty nice.
I appreciate your review and it confirms my choice to buy it in the future !
Glad it was helpful!
My husband test drove a 23 Tacoma and a 23 frontier. He said the braking felt like there was hesitation like a dead space. He ended up with the Frontier. Honestly he loved his last one and I knew he would pick Frontier. Now my son inherited his old one that still runs strong!
That's awesome! Tell him congrats on the new truck!
I have a p4x, zero issues! Love it!
Awesome!
I got mine for almost 3 years now and i love it
Awesome. I've had mine for about 2 and it's been great.
having worked for nissan (retired 4 yrs), it's simply relieving to see near zero comments from trolls. i would seriously consider a frontier if it weren't for the fact a manual transmission is not available. my '90 v6 hardbody 1-ton truck will probably outlast me so unless i just gotta have that new car (truck?) smell, it's a keeper. thanx for the vid.
Thanks for working for Nissan! I truly love the company and it sucks to see them going through tough financial times when they do make some great vehicles. Are they all perfect, no, but they definitely don't deserve all the hate they get. Great vehicles for a reasonable price.
I have a 2024 Pro4X in Cardinal Red. I absolutely love it. Everything you said in your video is spot right on.
Thanks! I love cardinal red. I really wanted one of the couple of red options but could only find Gray when I bought my truck. It’s growing on me, but the red is really sharp.
@@AllThingsOverlanding Honestly, your gray was my 2nd choice. The only thing that I would change on our model is the cargo lamp switch. I am so use to pushing the top of a toggle to turn things on. On our Nissan's you push the bottom to turn the cargo lamps on. An indicator light would also have been nice. If I can get the switch out in the future, I might add an LED lamp right near it myself. Other than that, I love every bit of my truck.
@@Wirenutby nice. That’s a great idea for a diy mod!
I just bought a used 2023 Pro-4x 3 weeks ago. I took it out on the K-Trail in Oklahoma and the only issue I had is clearance. I see a lift in the future. Since I bought this strictly for trailing and camping, it's the right size for me. There are a couple of hills that I have to go up getting to our place in OK that every vehicle I have shoots up to 4000+ rpm if I have the cruise on so that's not a big deal. Since I have to drive 4 hours or more to get to any good trails I wanted something that felt as good on road as it does off, and gets good gas mileage. I am getting about the same mpg as I do in my modified Forester. I did consider an SV king cab but the price for a used base SV was only 2K less than the fully loaded Pro-4x I purchased.
I felt fancy springing for the Pro-4x until I looked at the difference in prices too. Seemed like a good deal for all the extra features of the Pro-4X plus then I didn't have to add or modify anything as it had everything I wanted.
Heavy steering... I'm a very petite 5 foot woman and I have driven these and its so easy... and I hear guys complain its "heavy" lol...
The Frontier is easy to drive and drives great.
I do hate small beds though... 6ft bare minimum for me, but I don't care to do crazy off-road stuff where it matters.
Need you to come show these guys how it's done! :D
My brothers 1973 chevy 1 ton with manual steering is "heavy". I doubt this is very heavy at all.
Bought a a '24 SV because I wanted a king cab. A 6' bed is more valuable to me than a little backseat I would never use.
Having said that, I wish the SV had a rear locker and LED headlights.
I used to own a 3rd gen Taco, and getting used to the Frontier turning radius is hard.
Love your vids.
The LED headlights were a big draw for me to the Pro-4X too (and the locker). Appreciate you watching!
My 2022 is perfect but I hear bubbling and sloshing when I accelerate. I DONT KNOW WHAT it is??? I filled ac fluid all the way past max cause that’s what I was told to do but it’s still there.. anyone???
I've heard that too and that it has something to do with the heater. I forget exactly what, but if you check out any 2022+ Frontier FB group, I'm sure you'll see multiple posts about it with solutions.
Awesome review The important thing about any steering configuration is THAT it steers. I have the Frontier S 4x4 & I LOVE IT. My advise for some would be, to get what you like and works for you - Me? I want light trails get through the snow functionality over gadgets, electronics and cup holders what I have is exactly what I want a mid-size 4x4 with a V-6. I love Toyota I own 2 a Sienna and Camry. I looked for a Tacoma 4x4 with a 6 cyl which are now unicorns for all intents and purposes. My only other choice would be a Ram which is just too much vehicle for my purposes. It all boils down to preferences and everyone has their very own -
Agreed! I also love my Frontier S 4x4. Pretty much the perfect midsize truck!
Yep, they're great for those uses.
Thanks for the video. I absolutely loved the info, and it addresses some of the concerns I was hearing about. Great content!
Appreciate it!
I have a 2023 Pro4x. I installed the OEM Titan # 2016951 aluminum diff cover I think it is from a 2015, made by Spicer, on Ebay for around 110.00 shipped came with the bolts and fill plug. I also used the Lube Locker gasket # LLR-N44D. I have zero leaks and the cover looks really good. You will have to fab a bracket for the brake cable, but that was easy, I went to Home Depot in the lumber deck section got a galvanized small L bracket for 2.00 and trimmed it down and drilled 2 holes, worked great.
Yep, that's the move.
What is the purpose of this?
Was scared to get this truck due to nissan car troubles. I see that this is completely different. I will be getting this
Nissan makes solid trucks.
I just got a 24 Frontier and I love it! Gas is so good for being a truck. I got the long bed Crew Cab SV. It’s a beauty to drive 🙏
Congrats!
I've had my 22 S model for a yr and a half, and have been very happy with it. Does everything I need it to do. Most of the complaints you mention are just folks jumping on the bandwagon when they see other people complain. I couldn't care less about "heavy" steering, turning radius, lack of telescopic steering wheel, etc. The rear diff will need to be addressed at some point, but like you, I don't see it as a major concern.
Exactly.
Well said! I have also a 22 S 4x4. The people complaining need a car not a truck.
Lubelocker gasket or arb cover problem solved.
@@USNRetired-r6ido you watch 4WD Adventure, that's what he's got but got a big lift on it. He's still adding to it.
@@USNRetired-r6i do you watch 4 W D Adventure he's got one with a big lift.
Hey, I’m sitting in Zambia right now watching your video. On my 2023 Pro 4x my issues are the drivers seat reclining back after turning the truck off, the radio randomly turning on and one of the USB-C stopped working. All these will be sorted out at the dealer when I return. I’ve had my truck since February and have put 17k miles on it. One trip I drove from Nashville TN to Santa Fe NM and back in 2 days. This is the most comfortable vehicle I’ve ever owned. I had zero aches and pains after driving all day. Zero problems with the truck and I averaged 21 mpg. I guess the only issue that I can’t fix is you really can’t do a proper U-turn because it doesn’t turn sharp enough. Love the truck and would buy again.
Good feedback! I've heard of the seat thing, but never experienced it. Thanks for sharing!
I realized it was actually my leg hitting the recline button when I would get out of the truck. The longer it took me to get out of the truck, the lower the seat would go 🤣 I am not sure if that is the case for everyone, but that is what happened to me.
@@BroncoManiac777 That's what I've heard is that somehow people are hitting the power buttons on the side of the seat and that's moving it. I've never had it happen in mine.
I’ll have to pay attention and see if that is what I’m doing. Thanks!
I have a 23 and love it. Most underrated truck
Such great trucks! My 23 has 23K on it and it's just eating up the long trips and all the offroading.
Owner of a loaded 22 Pro-4x. Absolutely no regrets with this truck. As an interior nerd I have to say this is one of the best places you could sit for a long drive. The amazing seats, the layout, the excellent NVH and decent sound system. All make for a great road trip companion.
And especially great for the money IMO.
Do you have the Fender system?
@@TheGeneral1861 Yes. It's not the best sound system I've ever heard but it's completely adequate. And I'm saying that as someone who enjoys music and good stereo.
@@Journey_of_Abundancethank you for the reply. The closest local dealer doesn't have a frontier with the fender sound system. I'm looking at them, currently in a 22 ltz Z71 Silverado with the Bose system.
@@TheGeneral1861 I've not heard the standard stereo, but I'm sure it would be worth holding out for one with the Fender if good stereo is important to you.
Thank you so much for letting me know about the cruise control fix. I have the exact same 2023 pro4x as you color and all and when I went in to get my last free oil change from the dealership I asked them about a download to fix for the cruise control and they told me there wasn't anything. I gotta be honest that really pees me off and if they pull that again I'm gonna go off on them
No problem! Dealers can be pretty dumb. Mine was pretty helpful and looked it up, but my service writer said that it was kind of tricky to find. Took a bit.
If it helps, I looked it up and I believe this is the TSB number they need to search for. Maybe that will help them find it: TSB NTB24-005
Here's the source where I found that too: www.tsbsearch.com/Nissan/NTB24-005
I have a 23 SV long bed. Love it. I agree with everything you said. Thanks.
Appreciate it!
Test drove a 23 and loved it. Think I'm going to buy it. FUN truck to drive!
They're great!
How’s the 2022 Nissan Frontier SV? Thought about getting one
Great truck. The 2022s came without the forced auto start stop which is definitely a benefit. They have the same engine and transmission as the 2020 and 2021 so that’s a benefit. When I bought mine a year and a half ago there were almost no used ones and it was during the height of the market when people were asking crazy prices for used or I would’ve bought a used 2022 probably.
Love my 24 pro4x. Steering, ride, power, mpg great. Always drove Toyota trucks 35+ yrs. No turbo 4 crap for me.
Glad to hear it! I think they hit the nail on the head with this truck.
22 SV 4x4 owner for over a year. I love this truck!! Just got some fog lights installed and some ko tires.
Nice! They’re great trucks for sure!
If you’re having trouble parking this truck in a parking spot, there’s a good chance it’s lack of driver skill. I’d also imagine you would have the same trouble parking every truck
Right, :D
❤ the heavy steering!!
Lift more weights pu55y
Me too
Me too! Feels like a truck 💪
I have a 22 P4X, 85K miles, no issues. Love the steering. It isn’t heavy, it’s feedback. Plus it only feels heavy at slow speed on pavement.
Parking, you do gotta plan ahead, cut a little wide.
The update for the CC is awesome. Love my cruise now. Works like it should have from the beginning.
The complaint I hear is camera resolution. Back up cam is fine, I don’t need it to be 4K. The front cam, would be nice if it were clearer. Fine for parking, but on the trails, sharper would be nice. But steep climbs where all you see is sky out the windshield, the cam does its job.
All great points. I've tried to use the front camera off road and the resolution is so bad that it's tough to tell a rock from a puddle, haha. Also don't need 4K but just a little better would be nice.
Have you had any problems with the new 3.8L and 9speed trans? I want a frontier and the newest year I can get that still has the 4.0L 5spd trans is a 2019. It changed in 2020+. Is the new 3.8L worth it is what I'm saying. and at 85kmiles, seems like youre doing ok
Love my 2024! That's a beautiful area you're camping in!
They're great trucks and thanks!
The steering is perfect. Bring a King Cab Pro 4X to the states like they get in Canada.
Agreed!
I have over 14,000 miles on my 2023 Pro4X with no issues or complaints. It’s a great off road vehicle, and handles just fine on the highway. The ProX4 brings a smile to my face every time I have the opportunity to drive it.
Me too. Glad you’re enjoying the truck!
I have a 2023 Pro4X and the transmission shifting was wonky and the cruise control was almost unusable. I took it to the dealer and told them about the tech bulletin. They were not aware of it but looked it up and after a couple of hours I got my truck back and it was a completely different truck. The cruise control works perfectly and the shifting is overall more consistent.
Good to hear!
I have a '23 pro4x and I seem to have the same issues. What is the tech bulletin?
@@meanstreak1170 here’s a post about it with the TSB number: www.clubfrontier.org/threads/2022-intelligent-cruise-control-fixed.388239/
@GSPDUCKDOG: Prior to the tech bulletin, was your transmission wonky, specifically at lower speeds? Mine seems to act up and can be fairly harsh shifting between 20 and 35mph. Zero issues highway driving, very smooth. Did the bulletin correct the problem?
Yes mine shifted harsh a in the 15-25 MPH range and occasionally at other speeds in addition the the cruise control shifting being a complete nightmare. The tech bulletin procedure fixed it all.
whats the heavy steering comparable? is it similar to the xterra?
Yeah, I think it's similar. I think people are just babies, :D.
My truck has a hard life and I’ve had zero issues with the truck (that wasn’t self inflicted). It’s as solid as they come..
I’ve seen you beat in yours so I believe ya, 😀.
I have the red alert S just like you, and I've been super happy with it. It does what I need it to do.
Going to wait a year or 2 for a used 2025 pro 4x
That's a good idea. I would have liked to wait to buy a 2-3 year old 3rd gen but they didn't really exist when I bought my 2023 new.
this NISSAN truck is GREAT!!!
Agreed!
Problem is no 6 ft box on a quad cab. Toyota offers 6 ft bed with TRD model
As of the 2025 model year, you can now get the 6 foot bed with the 4 door and even the Pro-4X trim.
Jason, get that TSB done ASAP. It makes the transmission so much better. Not only the cruise control. Everything including gas mileage
My transmission got worse after the update. And it was perfect before. I did the update because of the cruise control. Worst part it didn't change it. Still shift down like a mad man.
I'll call the dealer this week, :D.
I'll get mine done and do an update in a few months to report back on what it does for my truck.
I’m considering trading my 2023 4R TRD pro for a 2025 pro4x but I’m kinda worried about Nissan QC and the fact that there is no port injection.
I like Toyotas too and I won't argue that they aren't historically more reliable. But, I've also had really good luck with a number of Nissans and they are a great buy for the money generally.
The limited turning radius is to keep you from flipping. It’s not corvette kids also old hydraulic steering is great so everyone back to the gym that’s complaining or go drive an old 90’s hardbody with no power steering then you won’t complain.
Agreed, :D
That's absolutely not true, my Titan turns tighter than my long bed fronter did.
Ith toyotas we dont have to pay extra for the gym.
@jeanclaude7018 on tundras only but they will get new engines, i was tlking about 6 cylinder tacomas
What size tires do you have on it? And do you have a leveling kit or anything?
Thanks
ADO RC Killa lift and 285/70R17 Kenda Klever RT’s. Here’s a vid that walks through the suspension in full and touches on the tires if it helps! 3rd Gen D41 Nissan Frontier - Modified All Dogs Offroad RC Killa Suspension Kit for Overlanding
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Awesome. Thank you!
@ NP!
My 24 pro x feels solid. Super truck like. V6 kicks 4 banger turbo. I don’t care about mpg
24 Ford Ranger 4x4 - 20-24 mpg
24 Colorado 4x4 - 19-23 mpg
24 Tacoma 4x4 - 20-23 mpg
24 Frontier Pro4x - 18-22 mpg
I don't think you lost anything but the potential longevity problems of a turbo-4.
Good points!
Good presentation. For sure, I'm getting the Frontier Pro4x and fully loaded. 😊
Nice. I'm loving mine. They're really nice trucks.
Great video! I don’t own a truck yet but I’m definitely in the market. I saw a few reviewers complain about the front skid plate having too big of a gap? Is that even notable or an issue?
I haven't had any issues with it. If you're really going to offroad these trucks, you'll want aftermarket skid plates anyways. If you're mostly hitting forest service roads and want some protection but don't plan to use it much, the stock stuff is nice piece of mind.
@@AllThingsOverlanding wow that simple lol it seems really hard to hate these trucks, idk why they don’t get a better spotlight. Thanks for the info
my 2008 Fronty had a grab handle on the A pillar. my 2014 Xterra does as well. i use it constantly. getting in and out, slow speed off road jostling, and when i'm just going down the road, i often just stretch my arm out and hold on to it. i lament that this is no longer the case on the new Fronty.
Hadn’t even noticed since switching from my 2nd gen!
@@AllThingsOverlanding i think lots of people don't care, don't ever use them. i'm on the opposite side, i use it constantly. i don't know why, i just do. i'm very tall and lanky and it's easy for me to reach and comfortable. i have searched and found aftermarket ones that you can macgyver as long as there is no airbag on the pillar.
I have my first Nissan 2024 pro 4x same color as yours boulder gray I put a bed cover on it I love mine so far but I only have 1200 miles so a long ways to go
Nice! The color is growing on me and I like it a lot now.
Is it easier to move the steering wheel when you lose power, with the hydraulic or electric?
Haven't had to deal with it, but I would imagine it's probably equally difficult as it just becomes "manual" at that point. Just no power steering like older cars at that point.
the worst complaint is the small back seat. Really?? don't buy a midsized truck then...right?? Buy a 4 door sedan or a full size truck if rear passenger leg room is important to you. seems stupid to complain about.
It has 4 doors so people expect the backseat to be useful if no they why even have those 2 extra door. It might not be as spacious as a previous gen tundra which is massive but if a backpack is wider than the seat then that’s probably what they are complaining about. Last time I checked one out I was able to fit 2 car seats back there but I am very short so my seats are closer to the front 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah, it's a midsize truck backseat, so despite the 4 doors, it's not got a ton of space. But, I've had 3 people in the backseat and it's tight, but you can definitely do it. I probably wouldn't drive across the country with 5 passengers, but it's possible, haha.
Or maybe manufacturers can simply extend the cabins by 6 to 8 inches. However, they won't do that in order to milk ppl of all their money. The only other option is to buy a full-size pickup, but that costs an extra $15k to 20k. Also, most ppl dont need the power of a half-ton pickup anyways. A midsize truck with about 38" of rear legroom would make a lot of ppl happy.
Absolutely agree with your assessment on all. None of these are actual problems. I absolutely love my pro 4X and I think nitpicking and comparing to the new turbo 4S with all the new crap there's going to be a lot of interest in the pro 4X in the Nissan and I think people are going to have great luck with it
Right. Agreed.
I love these trucks and can’t wait to get mine. My only complaint, mind you it’s coming from a non owner, the infotainment has 1st gen Blackberry sized bezels. The cab could be 6 inches longer for the rear seated people and the cameras are dated looking. None of these are gonna keep me out of one.
Upside is those 1st gen blackberry’s were indestructible, hoping that’s the case here
Haha, good point. Part of why I like the new Frontier is it's based on the previous gen and they kept what worked and updated the rest (interior, exterior looks, technology) to catch up with the competition while still offering a solid, reliable truck. My only long term concerns are the technological additions and how those sensors will hold up, especially with a decent amount of offroading and potential abuse.
Yeah, I'm 5'-11, never missed the telescopic wheel, after a week or two I didn't even notice the heavy steering anymore. At times I still do wish it had a tighter turning radius. Beware of parts availabilty being a PROBLEM. My alternator went at 18,000 miles, it sat at the dealership for 7 WEEKS waiting for an alternator, of all things! Love the truck otherwise, though.
Good stuff. 24,000 miles on mine so far and no problem so hopefully that persists.
Very well said!
Thanks!
how are the spark plugs to change? i know rhe gdi engine in my wife's kia sucks
Only have 23,000 miles on my truck so far so I haven’t had to mess with it yet but we’ll see.
I have a 2023 as well and my only complaints are the front seats are kinda small for bigger folks, the back up camera has crappy resolution, and the infotainment screen is slow at start-up. The complaints you mentioned, I have no idea what those folks are talking about
I can tell you the front seats have always been an issue for some people. Was that way with the Xterra and previous Frontier. I did notice it on my Xterra, but I did get used to it, so when it came to this Frontier I didn't notice it.
Yeah, I could see the seats being a bit small. I'm not a huge guy, but also not super small and I feel like I take up the bulk of the seat.
Love my 2024 Frontier. BEST truck I’ve owned
Nice!
I like my 23 PRO 4X...
Me too!
My only complaint is you can't get a 6ft bed and the pro4x trim.
Yep, seems to be something I see a lot
100% agree with Fletch about the steering. Heavy steering was what I had on my '69 &' 78 Chevy C-10's and 65 Mustang which all had manual steering. Man up America! Don't be a wuss.
SO many complaints and I'm like "What are you talking about?!" :D
what size tires do you have on this vehicle in this video?
285/70R17
For anyone who hates their new frontier ill trade ya my truck for yours lol
Haha
Just bought a 2024 frontier SV, it may not have all the bells and whistles like the Pro-X but it’s got convince package, I hope to get a pro-x but as for now, I love this truck
Nice! So much of them are the same. The Pro-4X just adds some nice stuff, but they're basically the same as the SV mechanically. Congrats on the truck!
@ thanks, love your content
@ Thanks man!
Why do you need to telescoping wheel? Just move your chair forward or back?
That's my thought, haha
Wife wants/needs a truck for her job. Currently in a RAV4 but limited on payload. I’m thinking the Frontier so she can put mixers and drink machines in the bed vs the back of her car. Going to take the hit on gas mileage but 8-12k less than Tacoma. She puts 30k per year on her vehicle will the Nissan handle that? How often are service intervals?
They're pretty low maintenance honestly. They recommend oil changes every 7500 but I do them about every 5K. I believe you're supposed to service the rear diff (drain and replace fluid) between 30 and 50K which is pretty easy. For the most part, they don't need much.
@@AllThingsOverlanding what about the transmission fluid?
@@bluecollarrepublican3827 Believe that’s 30k intervals but I’ll probably just do a drain and fill which is pretty easy to do and inexpensive.
Said it perfectly - If your interested something, go physically look at it, drive it, form your own opinion. Good video!
Thanks! I do wonder if these people are just buying these trucks sight unseen and then hopping in and saying "Wait a minute...this drives like a truck?!" :D
@@AllThingsOverlanding for what it's worth you were pretty straight forward, I subscribed
@@scottbrock884 I appreciate it!
I've never noticed the steering feeling overwhelming. Parking it feels just as easy as any similar sized vehicle. Plus the 360° camera makes it even easier.
Agreed. I think people online just love to complain.
Ok I'm thinking about getting one
They’re good trucks!
I bought my 2024 Nissan Pro X a year ago. I love the truck; although I don't off-road, I do pull a camper. It's great. I had an issue with the transmission at month 11, when the truck jumped out of gear. They ran the computer test, and Nissan said to replace the transmission. They did, and all is good. The replacement is less noticeable in the shifting of gears than what came originally. I agree; the price and styling are tops. I hurt the Toyota dealer salesman's feelings when I said the Nissan had a better style than the Toyota. :) PS Mine is Bouller Gray like yours. A very sharp look. Thanks for the video.
Congrats on your truck and glad they took care of that issue for you. Boulder Gray is a great color, :D. Thanks!
I really like this truck. I'm an old Toyota guy myself but Nissan is really beginning to shine. And that's an excellent idea about getting the SV & upgrading the rear diff for a lot less money. Thank you for that.
Edit:typo
No problem and glad it was helpful!
I like that idea, But wonder if that void's the warranty? My 23' sv 4x4 plain jane get's around alright, but ass end slides around a bit. Think this winter i'm gonna throw some sandbags in the back and see if that helps. But would love to get a locker !
@@timberlineconstruction1181 yeah, it is tight into the driveline so there are some concerns there. You could always run it for the first few years without and then upgrade it later once you’re out of warranty anyways. You might find out you don’t really use as much as you thought or that, it’s not necessary.
you didn't talk about the back seat
Yep, missed that. It's not huge, but also not unusable at all. Works great for my 11 and 14 year old and also holding lots of gear when the kids aren't with me.
Does anyone know his 1:23 lift height and set up. The best looking frontier setup I’ve seen. Tires too?
Thanks! Pretty sure I cover all that in this suspension set up (including tires): 3rd Gen D41 Nissan Frontier - Modified All Dogs Offroad RC Killa Suspension Kit for Overlanding
ruclips.net/video/Erz-3muZz_0/видео.html
Did you have to level the front suspension I Saw a brand new Pro4x displayed at Costco an the front end was raked pretty low
The all dogs Offroad RC killa kit (which is what I’m running) gives you about 1.5” up front with a longer replacement coil and then about 2” I. The back with an add a leaf. If it helps, I did a video walking through my suspension set up here: ruclips.net/video/Erz-3muZz_0/видео.htmlsi=bGKogydN4AiweIGQ
Thanks for the info@@AllThingsOverlanding
I tow a 3000+ lbs travel trailer on bi weekly basis to my favorite weekend getaway in northern Florida with my 2022 Nissan Frontier Pro 4x. The truck has no problem pulling the trailer up them tall suspension brigdes and overpasses here Jacksonville.
Love it. I’ve towed a Subaru on a good sized trailer before and it was great. Good torque and super smooth when accelerating.
Did I miss it? Didn’t see you talk about “small backseat”
Yeah, I forgot it, lol. My point was going to be that I'm 6'2" and I can fit back there, although it is tight. Still, way better than a crew cab and totally usable for kids and adults in a pinch. Good eye! You're the first one to notice I missed it, haha.
Just bought a 24 pro4x and I'm very happy. All of the gripes i have are just that, inconvenient. Nothing deal breaking and for 25% less than a 🌮, yess sir!!
Totally agree with you!
does anyone have a link for the rear locker for the diff on the 22 frontier
I have only purchased the e-locker for a Titan rear end, but they should either be the same or very similar. If you search for Nissan Frontier M226 rear end, you should find some options. The one I bought was a Spicer e-locker which I believe is the OEM unit.
Great video. Nice truck. Id love one. BUT. nothing should weep or leak at 20k. That diff cover should be upgraded at the factory.
Agree. It's not a huge deal and you wouldn't HAVE to do anything about it, but it's just a thing I guess. Not ideal, but not as bad as ECU problems or Trans problems like I've had with other makes.
@AllThingsOverlanding right. I mean, I think the Ram is the best-looking full-size out there, however, it's Stellantis-Chrysler garbage.
Thanks great vid. Im In the market for an older 4x4 frontier. 2007-2015.
Is there a particular year to avoid or shoot for considering longevity of the engine over everything else. I want it to last and be dependable long term. Appreciate any info.
Thanks! All the 2nd gens are pretty great. You're pretty close to the best years of them too in your range there. I believe 08 was the preferred year because by then they had addressed all of the SMOD issues on these engines (in the Xterra and Frontier-check out clubfrontier.org and search "SMOD" and you'll see more on that). I still have an 08 sitting in my driveway with 220K miles on it and it still runs great. Of course, if you can find a 2015 with decent mileage, those would probably be your best bet if they fit in the budget.
I have a 2023 Pro 4X. I got used to the heavy steering pretty quickly. I do find the lack of telescoping steering pretty annoying. I'm 6' and constantly adjusting the seat because I always feel like either my legs are cramped or the wheel is too far away. Gas mileage has been not great in the city. Generally I'm pretty happy with it though. It's a sharp looking truck and I like the shifting of the 9 speed.
Yeah, these trucks have never been great on gas. I'm coming from a 2008 2nd gen Frontier with a Titan swap and 35's to this so my gas mileage before 33's was almost double my old truck and even with a lift, 33's, and lots of gear, I'm still probably getting about 7-8 MPG better than my old truck, so there's a bit of bias there for me.
I just picked up a 23 SV. I notice it has a crackling popcorn sound when the exhaust is cooling when the truck is off. I know vehicles often do this but this is at a new level on this truck. Even if the truck is warm and is running i can slightly hear it if my window is down. Anyone upgrade the exhaust and did this sound improve?
That's weird. Like you mean the "tinking" of metal cooling off? Or like an exhaust burble?
Thank you for the video, I’m also enjoying your podcast has been great.
Thanks! Glad you like it!