*What do you think of the Atomos Ninja V would you buy it or not? And why?* Atomos Ninja V on Amazon: geni.us/6eGeo Atomos Ninja V on B&H Photo: bhpho.to/3aLcoO2 View my whole Ninja V Kit and more: www.kit.co/dunnadidit (affiliate links) Timestamps for impatient people: 0:00 - Video Starts: Backstory 2:04 - Vlog to get the Ninja V and Accessories 2:58 - Unboxing and Setup 5:31 - Reasons I got the Atomos Ninja V
Love being able to record the camera’s screen with the Ninja V, great for tutorials and vids. Never though to use the camera-computer function, not sure if it works the same for Canon as your Sony
I have it. I like it a lot. I use it on camera or I have it mounted to my DJI Ronin-S (I don't use it in that config very often) I also have it mounted in a small rig monitor cage....
It’s so nice being able to edit directly from that hard drive then only save the finished video. The prores codec is such a blessing and the SSD’s are dirt cheap!
I did the same, I put my a7iii in a small rig with the handle on top. Then the ninja on top of it. I found it adds enough weight that footage handheld comes out a little more stable. Most of all though just being able to shoot in 4k forever without worrying about it stopping recording is nice. Also, I think the screen on the ninja is much better when using manual lenses + focus peaking. Plus, just having a screen anyways is really helpful and it isn't that much more weight to be honest.
Went through a similar "agonizing" time of debating whether or not to buy the Ninja V to go on my a6400. Then, Atomos dropped the price of the Ninja V by some $350 for a month or so. Managed to find the ONE left in stock in Vancouver and raced with money in hand. My trip from discovery to acquisition was about 2 1/2 years and a few crappy used monitors from FB Marketplace. Couldn't be happier that I now have this little beast of a screen.
I watch these for beer review and explanations, but when the details go over my head, I stay for the beats. Seriously though coffee shop, low - key, chill music is amazing! ☕️ 🥰
I have had my Ninja V since it came out and it's an amazing piece of kit that I did not need. It is great to be able to use multiple cameras with the same SSD which makes workflow easier as you pointed out. It doers come in handy on my X-T3 if I need a front facing screen. It's expensive but will be worth it for some. Thanks for braving the cold to make this video!
Checking-in from May 2022.. The Atomos Ninja V is now at $399, and an A7III is around $1200 used.. Got 2x Atomos Ninja V and A7III. 2.5" SSD has also gotten cheaper.. Couldn't be happier.. Great inputs and video!
I have one, and it's great, however there are two main downsides imo: 1. You can't record 120fps on the atomos, meaning if you like to shoot a combination of slowmo and regular footage, you will find yourself switching back and forth between the external recording and internal recording, which also requires you to unplug the atomos cord from your camera in order to have the sony's screen work. 2. When recording externally, if you have a camera with duel sd cards, you are forfeiting the duel record feature, which for some professional work may be a deal-breaker and a good reason to record internally instead.
If I did a video and why I picked up a Ninja V, it would be very brief. I would basically say “the reason I picked up a Ninja V is because my wife let me”
I've been using the Ninja V with my Canon 5D Mk IV for about a month now. Mainly I needed to get past the 30 minute recording limit (concert and dance performance shooting), but the Ninja's prores files are noticeably better than the files produced by the 5D, especially in low light/high ISO situations - less noise, no blown out highlights. It is almost like having an entirely new camera. I consider it money well spent.
Dunna Did It Check your footage that you record at 422HQ - Resolve says the footage coming out of the a7iii is 10-bit and it certainly feels like it when grading
Really? I have graded a bit and it does feel like there's a bit more to it, but I figured that was the 4:2:2. I wonder if the file from the ninja v is 10 bit but the sony is only outputing 8 bit into it. Like upscaling 1080 to 4k... its still just 1080.
Enjoy the new gear dude! If it makes life a bit easier, then it's all good! The Atomos stuff is really great, and it's a huge help to nail manual focus, making sure stuff isn't blown out etc.etc.etc. I couldn't live without mine now to be honest. Maybe I'm going slightly blind, but the bigger screen is an absolute joy!
Gerald Undone is our Master Splinter 😂 I also messaged him before I bought😎 great video bro! The small improvements to the a7iii and the future proof is worth the price tag for Sony shooters
Hi, phenomenal video! I don't know who created this by my highest compliments. If someone wants to create a catchy, fun to watch video simply study what was going on in this video. This video is a ten out of ten: l. incredibly catchy, fast paced, cool music; 2. matching the editing shots and movements to the music beat; 3. fast pace but not frantic, 4. minimal but fun use of graphics. A happy, smiling actor. Really, really outstanding pro level.
I am in the same boat as you were. I have had it in my shopping cart for a good 7 months even prior to me getting my camera (XT-3). As you state it's not needed, but not having to use my camlink to show my screen would be most beneficial. Thanks for the video, I may be pulling the trigger on it or an action camera soon.
Seems worth it for face tracking in 4k alone. I hate that I have to unplug my current monitor to enable facetracking! Great video, more tempted to pick one up now!
It's all about how far you are pushing the colour grading and not having colour banding like in sky's after grading for example. You won't notice it otherwise. Unless you are doing TV broadcast, you do not need 422. But it's lovely to have if you can easily afford it.
I got the Shugun 7, worth it for the face detect alone, but the image anlaysis features, XLR in, and codecs were a huge change in my workflow for the better that I didn't expect. Also adds a lot of needed video features that the Sony A9 is missing and allows me to shoot better matchable video along side my A7RIII.
Shoots in DNxHR for Windows people. Which is also what Resolve uses for their optimized media. That could save so much time..... Dang it Dunna, now I really want one.
I noticed a solid jump in how much I can push the Luma values in post using the ATOMOS Ninja Inferno with the A6300 which shoots the same codec and data rate as the A7iii I believe. You’re gonna love it dude! Have fun!
Now I really want this even though I use the SmallHD. But that external recording with no limit and editing from external drive could way improve my workflow! Dang it Dunna!
Funnily enough, I just sold my Ninja V and RUclips suggested this video… for my experience, great piece of gear, but made all my set up too heavy: extra batteries, extra battery charger, extra hdmi cable, extra monitor mount, extra handle when using my Ronin S, extra settings to worry about… I found it more a disadvantage than an advantage especially when shooting solo on location…
I did the same with the GH5 and the Ninja V. So for months I researched and listened how various RUclipsr said you only need the Ninja V if you need to record 4k 10bit 60fps and I didn't really care about the 10bit 60fps. In the end I went for it and bought the ninja v and the footage I now have to work with ( which is ProRes LT or HQ) make grading the footage and playback is so worth the cost. The end product that I get from the ninja v gives me a professional and cinematic footage that I was never able to get from the gh5 on it's own. So I get what you are saying . Great video .
Nice! Thanks for sharing! I agree 100% I’ve done one video (for next week) since this one and the whole process was just so much more smooth. Getting exposure is a snap, editing and grading prores is a pleasure. The only downside is added size/weight.
I decided on the atomos shinobi over the ninja v. Why? $200 price difference, did not include hard drive nor battery. So for the extra $50, I got the accessory kit which included the sunshade, 2 batteries, etc. Not sure I really need the record function for my usage. But needed the larger brighter screen. My only complaint is I can't see everything that appears on my sony zv1 (although I have not done a firmware update yet). I can only see what the lens sees plus audio level. It does not show all the settings. I wish (for the price of these) it included battery and either a 1/4 20 or cold shoe mount. My shinobi only came as monitor, nothing else in box. I think the $600 price tag if the ninja v, you should get a battery and a drive. My entire shinobi bundle was under $500 including sales tax. I only needed to but a mount and hdmi cables. Also word of advice. If your camera has a micro hdmi port,* DO NOT * use the coiled cable. Use a straight in. The coiled cable is stiff and pulls on the port resulting on a bad connection and risk breaking your port.
Nice informative video, for me there are 3 things which are dealbreaker 1st face tracking AF 2nd Unlimited record time 3rd Luts, I don’t talk about things like free spinning tilting monitor A7III lacks
I love my Ninja 5, allows me to shoot 10bit 4:2:2 colour from my now aged C100 Mark ii effectively prolonging it's life. The on screen monitoring options are great as well. Not sure it's 100% necessary for shooting yourself, but fantastic monitor/recording source in the field shooting client work. Great video dude, I like the smaller profile this one has over mine, it's a bit of a mini beast ;)
@@dunnadidit Definitely, although I only have the C100 mark ii...so it effective extends the life of that now "vintage" cinema camera lol. The flip screen aspect is definitely key though.
@@MylonasFilms Not sure what you mean "fake 10 bit". The Sony isn't 10 bit, fake or not. It's 8 bit, I'm not sure you can fake the colour depth. Canon C100 mark ii has always been able to do 10 bit external recording. Most older Atomos recorders can enable this.
@@MarkHoltze that's all I needed to know. The Sony Fs5 for example can use a external recorder to record 422 10 bit but it's not actual 10 bit. It's still 8 bit. Didn't the guy even say this in the video above? It's not real 10bit, just 422 out of the recorder.
I've got this same setup (including the camlink 4k) & I discovered that i Really like the image i get when i let the Ninja down-res my 4k input to a 1080 output using the passthrough & recording into quicktime on my computer. Maybe even as good as the "infamous" All-I 1080p from Canon?!?
I am considering getting this recorder for my EOS R one day... It would get me the 4:2:2, 10 bit, prores... so it will get me an image quality upgrade. For now, I am just playing around and learning how to shoot video.
@@dunnadidit Can you confirm this: I have an EOS R and with the Ninja V, I can record video the entire time while doing a photo shoot. The video is recorded to the Ninja and the Camera RAW photos recorded to the camera. So basically I'm video recording the entire shoot as well as capturing photos. Is this correct?
Super vid, Dunna. I aim to buy the Atomos Shogun Inferno 7 to pair with my Nikon Z6 in order to go with ProResRAW. So, a specific purpose for it then. Cheers, brother of vid excellence! 💛 P.S., kitty cameo is touch of class.
Ninja V is an indispensable tool to me. Too many great video tools, from false color to focus peaking, robust, lightweight, perfect size for framing and focusing, and the SSD card just slides right off the back for really fast data transfer. I just shot a feature; 25 X 16 hour days and it was flawless. I shot the S5 into the Ninja so I was getting Full Frame, Prores 5.9k 422 at 12 bit, non stop, all day, flawless! I would not go on a shoot without it.
Dunna Did It definitely excited about prores cause I’ll have an external hard drive built in, but also redundancy when recording video is a big deal for me and my work. If I’m doing a 30min + keynote 🙆🏻♂️need to have a back up
HVRIS that’s the camera I shoot with. One thing I learned was when you record in normal picture profiles through the atomos you actually loose some luminance which sucks, you’re not at 0-255 any more. If you shoot in f log you don’t need to worry. It’s a hidden thing I discovered only after getting my atomos on my x-t3 I noticed my blacks looked crushed. The data is there it has to be activated in post, again this is only when recording in standard picture profiles. Hope that helps you man.
HVRIS I was actually contemplating returning mine after I saw that but after shooting in f log last Saturday for the entire day then color grading with the f log to eterna LUT in post I actually like it. F log is excellent and retains a good deal of dynamic range. Plus I kept it because of all the reasons Dunna mentioned here.
Avoid 8 bit SLog. Use HLG if you need log. Sony said so. Also, SLog3 is very hard 8 bit 4:2:0 with a crappy internal codec. Would love to see the internal vs Atomos comparison to see if grading is better with the ProRes.
What do you suggest shooting with the Sony A7iii? I've learned the hard way that grading Slog with 8-bit doesn't always work well... I've started not using a Picture Profile at all. Do you have any suggestions though? Thanks
@@ggfilms9532 don't use Slog at all - HLG is you need a bit more dynamic range to do some minor tweaks later Gerald Undone has a walkthrough of the various picture profiles. If I am not doing much post processing I do rec709 gamma with Movie profile
@@dunnadidit I bought Shinobis for both of my A7III but ended up returning them when I found out that you cannot have neither proxy recording or face detection when using HDMI and recording internally. Just like it's been told in this video. Too bad Ninja V was 2x the price of Shinobi and I wasn't happy with HDMI starting lag (takes like 5 to 10 seconds to see an image in monitor when turning on the camera) so I still don't have a monitor.
Is it just me or is there a weird sound at 11:26? Great video as always, Dunna. I picked one up for myself for all the same reasons and it’s made a world of difference in my workflow.
So weird!! I just double checked my export as well and it’s in there. Something weird happened on the export from premiere I guess 🤷🏻♂️ Thanks a ton! That’s awesome to hear!
Thanks man, I have a Sony a7s 1 with a Ninja Assassin to record 4k (old gear) and I just bought a a7 III... I was thinking about selling my Atomos, but after your video, I will stay with him a little longer.
I hear that for sure! I think this will still be super handy when Sony has 10 bit and 4k60 though! I shot a whole video on it last week (for next Monday) and it was FANTASTIC. NOOOO REGRETS AT ALL!
Great vid, Dunna as always. I’ve had my NinjaV almost a year now, I chose it over the less expensive ones because of loosing the face tracking with other monitors. Thanks GeraldUndone.
The only reason I wanted to buy a monitor is because the A7III doesn't have a flip screen. I often make pictures with the camera close to the ground in portrait orientation, I can't see anything while I'm doing this... But I ordered a workaround from Aliexpress for €5, just a phone holder mounted on a cold shoe adapter, so I can put my smartphone on top of my camera and connect them through Wifi.
I used to have a Video Device Pix video recorder which was able to record 60p Prores HQ even though I was outputting 24p from the camera. It kind of made an override of the incoming signal and recorded on to whatever framerate you selected.
I can tell you why I got the Ninja V. It's mostly about quality (yes indeed) and saving $$$. So, I got a second hand A7s because I wanted that sensor but didnt want to pay a premium price. My previous inexpensive APS-C Canon camera just didn't cut it when it came to video quality, at 1080p the footage looks a bit mushy, and at 4k the crop and noise is just too much. The A7s was a big improvement here already with hugely better quality even at 1080p, but when I saw what it can do at 4K, the Ninja V was a must-have (since the A7s cannot record 4k internally). Also got a good deal on it. The quality of the 4k prores 422 recording with the Ninja V is lightyears ahead of anything I ever used before. That's not a very subtle difference. So this setup now allows me to get really decent 4K footage, since the A7s sensor is still really good, and the internal recording quality of the Ninja V is top notch as well. I believe there is no other way to get this kind of video quality for so little money. Apart from that, it's pretty useful to have a high quality field monitor while recording. Of course it's much easier just to use my old canon with continuous autofocus and all, it's also smaller and lighter. But the video quality really hurts my eyes, now more than ever before. Sometimes a lightweight and easy-to-use setup just doesn't cut it. Of course the A7s II could also be an option, since it records 4K internally. But then I still would want to have a field monitor. And the A7s II records at a way lower bitrate than the Ninja V, I kinda doubt it could keep up with it quality-wise. Surely the A7s III would be great, but it's still pretty darn expensive. So, being on a tight budget, the Ninja V together with the A7s is quite an interesting option. Plus it gives me all the added value that the Ninja V provides, which is quite substantial in total. The only thing I'm missing is a good autofocus, but there's no inexpensive way I can imagine to get a really good autofocus with this kind of video quality, so I have to live with it for now.
*What do you think of the Atomos Ninja V would you buy it or not? And why?*
Atomos Ninja V on Amazon: geni.us/6eGeo
Atomos Ninja V on B&H Photo: bhpho.to/3aLcoO2
View my whole Ninja V Kit and more: www.kit.co/dunnadidit
(affiliate links)
Timestamps for impatient people:
0:00 - Video Starts: Backstory
2:04 - Vlog to get the Ninja V and Accessories
2:58 - Unboxing and Setup
5:31 - Reasons I got the Atomos Ninja V
We got one specifically for 4:2:2!
@bs media - do you find it’s made a big difference for you?
@@dunnadidit For color grading, tremendously! Definitely found there wasn't as much banding. Also, the pro-res files are amazing!
Love being able to record the camera’s screen with the Ninja V, great for tutorials and vids. Never though to use the camera-computer function, not sure if it works the same for Canon as your Sony
I have it. I like it a lot. I use it on camera or I have it mounted to my DJI Ronin-S (I don't use it in that config very often)
I also have it mounted in a small rig monitor cage....
has literally been in and out my cart for the past month.
Lol well it’s on sale right?
@@dunnadidit I need it to stay on sale till Amazon associates send out their gift cards for earnings. 1 week!
Same here
Same😂
It’s so nice being able to edit directly from that hard drive then only save the finished video. The prores codec is such a blessing and the SSD’s are dirt cheap!
Oh man, you nailed it.
what about the ssd caddy? any item link?
Do you just slide off the atomos caddy (with the ssd in it) and plug it in to your computer using a SATA to USB cable and edit directly off that?
THIS IS THE LAST TIME!
🤓🤣👍 Great video, dude. Funny too.
Haha thanks for the help on the adapter cable dude!
I did the same, I put my a7iii in a small rig with the handle on top. Then the ninja on top of it. I found it adds enough weight that footage handheld comes out a little more stable. Most of all though just being able to shoot in 4k forever without worrying about it stopping recording is nice. Also, I think the screen on the ninja is much better when using manual lenses + focus peaking. Plus, just having a screen anyways is really helpful and it isn't that much more weight to be honest.
You are 100% correct! It makes for a better experience in a handful of ways. I’m stoked to do some handheld stuff with it too.
Can you tell me is face detection works with this monitor at 4K res?
Went through a similar "agonizing" time of debating whether or not to buy the Ninja V to go on my a6400. Then, Atomos dropped the price of the Ninja V by some $350 for a month or so. Managed to find the ONE left in stock in Vancouver and raced with money in hand. My trip from discovery to acquisition was about 2 1/2 years and a few crappy used monitors from FB Marketplace. Couldn't be happier that I now have this little beast of a screen.
Dunna did it. The intro was literally me this morning. 10:41 in and I've placed the order.
Editing/pacing on this video is damn good bro!
Thanks brother! I really appreciate that.
I watch these for beer review and explanations, but when the details go over my head, I stay for the beats.
Seriously though coffee shop, low - key, chill music is amazing! ☕️ 🥰
Haha great to know!! Thanks for the kind words!
I have had my Ninja V since it came out and it's an amazing piece of kit that I did not need. It is great to be able to use multiple cameras with the same SSD which makes workflow easier as you pointed out. It doers come in handy on my X-T3 if I need a front facing screen. It's expensive but will be worth it for some. Thanks for braving the cold to make this video!
That’s awesome!!! I’d say it’s well worth the price tag so far!
Checking-in from May 2022.. The Atomos Ninja V is now at $399, and an A7III is around $1200 used.. Got 2x Atomos Ninja V and A7III. 2.5" SSD has also gotten cheaper.. Couldn't be happier..
Great inputs and video!
11:25 scared the crap out of me lol .That buzzing sound.
Yeah I have no idea what happened there… so weird.
@@dunnadidit no worry. I thought it was my speaker lol. Thanks Dunna~!
You’ve been killing more and more over the last while that I’ve been watching. Super cool to see the progress and growth. Nice work man!
Thanks a ton!
I have one, and it's great, however there are two main downsides imo:
1. You can't record 120fps on the atomos, meaning if you like to shoot a combination of slowmo and regular footage, you will find yourself switching back and forth between the external recording and internal recording, which also requires you to unplug the atomos cord from your camera in order to have the sony's screen work.
2. When recording externally, if you have a camera with duel sd cards, you are forfeiting the duel record feature, which for some professional work may be a deal-breaker and a good reason to record internally instead.
Good points!!
So would you recommend the shinobi instead?
@@Lucreative Isn't that just the monitor only version, or does it overcome some of the ninja v downsides? I haven't looked into it.
@@dunnadidit that mean i cant record 4k 60 on a73 with this ???
No you cant
If I did a video and why I picked up a Ninja V, it would be very brief. I would basically say “the reason I picked up a Ninja V is because my wife let me”
Lol 😂
Just bought one the other week! Absolutely love it! My big thing was for beating out that dang record limit! We do tons of interviews! So good!
Nice! Yeah that’s huge!! I just have to make sure I keep a big enough battery on it lol.
@@dunnadidit I think at this point I have a dedicated backpack for batteries when we do client work lol
I've been using the Ninja V with my Canon 5D Mk IV for about a month now. Mainly I needed to get past the 30 minute recording limit (concert and dance performance shooting), but the Ninja's prores files are noticeably better than the files produced by the 5D, especially in low light/high ISO situations - less noise, no blown out highlights. It is almost like having an entirely new camera. I consider it money well spent.
That’s awesome!!
I was LITERALLY searching for this yesterday!! Thank you, what an incredible amount of value.
That’s great to hear! Cheers!
The fact that it's also a recorder and has whole bunch of features, makes it very temping for me also! 😁
Yeah if it was just a monitor it would be a very expensive monitor lol
Well, that's something I didn't know I even wanted. Thanks Dunna!
Haha my pleasure!
Awesome video. Excellent info on the output color and compression files.
I bought it a bout a year ago and I absolutely love it! I use it on the EOS R which outputs 10 bit and it’s amazing
I have a bit of 10 bit envy...lol
It is a game changer... I’m sure Sony will add it on the a7siii whenever that’s out 🤣
Dunna Did It Check your footage that you record at 422HQ - Resolve says the footage coming out of the a7iii is 10-bit and it certainly feels like it when grading
Really? I have graded a bit and it does feel like there's a bit more to it, but I figured that was the 4:2:2. I wonder if the file from the ninja v is 10 bit but the sony is only outputing 8 bit into it. Like upscaling 1080 to 4k... its still just 1080.
Just double checked, the a7iii definitely only outputs 8bit
Enjoy the new gear dude! If it makes life a bit easier, then it's all good! The Atomos stuff is really great, and it's a huge help to nail manual focus, making sure stuff isn't blown out etc.etc.etc. I couldn't live without mine now to be honest. Maybe I'm going slightly blind, but the bigger screen is an absolute joy!
I’ve shot one video on it now and I already couldn’t live without it haha!
@@dunnadidit Ha!! Epic! The ProRes recording is worth the price alone!!
Gerald Undone is our Master Splinter 😂 I also messaged him before I bought😎 great video bro! The small improvements to the a7iii and the future proof is worth the price tag for Sony shooters
Haha 😂 he’s definitely good if you need some nerdy advice!
Hi, phenomenal video! I don't know who created this by my highest compliments. If someone wants to create a catchy, fun to watch video simply study what was going on in this video. This video is a ten out of ten: l. incredibly catchy, fast paced, cool music; 2. matching the editing shots and movements to the music beat; 3. fast pace but not frantic, 4. minimal but fun use of graphics. A happy, smiling actor. Really, really outstanding pro level.
Hey! Thank you so much! It’s all just me, shot, “performed” and edited 😁 I’m glad you liked it!
Off topic, but I bought one of those desks after your video and it is 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻. Thanks! I had been looking for a long time!
That’s so awesome! I’m glad you’re loving it!
Thank you for the support via Twitter! You are awesome!
My pleasure Eddie! Cheers!
I am in the same boat as you were. I have had it in my shopping cart for a good 7 months even prior to me getting my camera (XT-3). As you state it's not needed, but not having to use my camlink to show my screen would be most beneficial. Thanks for the video, I may be pulling the trigger on it or an action camera soon.
Yeah the screen recording, no time limit, and prores would be awesome for you!
11:23 ouch
Yeah not sure what the heck happened there, sorry.
Dunna Did It haha it happens keep up the good content! I would like to see “3 Months With The Átomos Ninja V- Thoughts Review”
Good idea!
@@dunnadidit Dude, would be nice that one!
youtube .. Why this not on my recommendation ? Damn I was looking for this .. Thanks for review Dunna
Yeah what the heck RUclips! Haha! Thanks for watching!
I am excited I just received my
Atomos Ninja V today can’t wait to test it out
wow the weather is crazy there
Haha yeah we had a pretty insane weekend of cold.
@@dunnadidit I'm glad it didn't snowed at all here in The Netherlands. Still happy with the Atomos?
Yeah its amazing so far!
Good Video. I deliberated on buying one for about 2 weeks for my Sony FS5. Pro Res 4K/60p @4:2:2 10bit makes the Ninja V well worth the money.
Nice!!
Seems worth it for face tracking in 4k alone. I hate that I have to unplug my current monitor to enable facetracking! Great video, more tempted to pick one up now!
That was definitely the #1 reason at first for me.
Nice one! Would love to see a comparison video between 4:2:2 and 4:2:0
I'll keep it in mind!
It's all about how far you are pushing the colour grading and not having colour banding like in sky's after grading for example. You won't notice it otherwise. Unless you are doing TV broadcast, you do not need 422. But it's lovely to have if you can easily afford it.
I got the Shugun 7, worth it for the face detect alone, but the image anlaysis features, XLR in, and codecs were a huge change in my workflow for the better that I didn't expect. Also adds a lot of needed video features that the Sony A9 is missing and allows me to shoot better matchable video along side my A7RIII.
Nice!
Shoots in DNxHR for Windows people. Which is also what Resolve uses for their optimized media. That could save so much time..... Dang it Dunna, now I really want one.
Yes it sure does!! Haha I’m sorry! I can’t help but make people want things... links are in the description *wink wink*
@@dunnadidit Ha! I have to get clearance from the CFO (wife) first.
Haha!
Nice!!
I noticed a solid jump in how much I can push the Luma values in post using the ATOMOS Ninja Inferno with the A6300 which shoots the same codec and data rate as the A7iii I believe. You’re gonna love it dude! Have fun!
That’s great to know! Like you said, I should see similar advantages with the a7iii, a6600 and a6400 then too! Cheers!
Now I really want this even though I use the SmallHD. But that external recording with no limit and editing from external drive could way improve my workflow! Dang it Dunna!
Dang it Matt!
Funnily enough, I just sold my Ninja V and RUclips suggested this video… for my experience, great piece of gear, but made all my set up too heavy: extra batteries, extra battery charger, extra hdmi cable, extra monitor mount, extra handle when using my Ronin S, extra settings to worry about… I found it more a disadvantage than an advantage especially when shooting solo on location…
Will file this away for future reference. Nice rundown! Stay warm!
Nice! Thanks!
I did the same with the GH5 and the Ninja V. So for months I researched and listened how various RUclipsr said you only need the Ninja V if you need to record 4k 10bit 60fps and I didn't really care about the 10bit 60fps. In the end I went for it and bought the ninja v and the footage I now have to work with ( which is ProRes LT or HQ) make grading the footage and playback is so worth the cost. The end product that I get from the ninja v gives me a professional and cinematic footage that I was never able to get from the gh5 on it's own. So I get what you are saying . Great video .
Nice! Thanks for sharing! I agree 100% I’ve done one video (for next week) since this one and the whole process was just so much more smooth. Getting exposure is a snap, editing and grading prores is a pleasure. The only downside is added size/weight.
@@dunnadidit yep the weight is a downside and I went and bought the cage as well. Nevertheless I am loving the ninja V, I hacd no regrets.
I decided on the atomos shinobi over the ninja v. Why? $200 price difference, did not include hard drive nor battery. So for the extra $50, I got the accessory kit which included the sunshade, 2 batteries, etc. Not sure I really need the record function for my usage. But needed the larger brighter screen. My only complaint is I can't see everything that appears on my sony zv1 (although I have not done a firmware update yet). I can only see what the lens sees plus audio level. It does not show all the settings.
I wish (for the price of these) it included battery and either a 1/4 20 or cold shoe mount. My shinobi only came as monitor, nothing else in box.
I think the $600 price tag if the ninja v, you should get a battery and a drive. My entire shinobi bundle was under $500 including sales tax. I only needed to but a mount and hdmi cables.
Also word of advice. If your camera has a micro hdmi port,* DO NOT * use the coiled cable. Use a straight in. The coiled cable is stiff and pulls on the port resulting on a bad connection and risk breaking your port.
Nice informative video, for me there are 3 things which are dealbreaker 1st face tracking AF 2nd Unlimited record time 3rd Luts, I don’t talk about things like free spinning tilting monitor A7III lacks
Those are pretty solid features! It definitely helps for the fact that the A7iii lacks a flip screen too!
Dunna is the man! Awesome videos bro
I love my Ninja 5, allows me to shoot 10bit 4:2:2 colour from my now aged C100 Mark ii effectively prolonging it's life. The on screen monitoring options are great as well. Not sure it's 100% necessary for shooting yourself, but fantastic monitor/recording source in the field shooting client work.
Great video dude, I like the smaller profile this one has over mine, it's a bit of a mini beast ;)
When you have the a7iii and no flip screen it becomes super helpful for filming yourself haha.
That’s awesome about the c200 too!
@@dunnadidit Definitely, although I only have the C100 mark ii...so it effective extends the life of that now "vintage" cinema camera lol.
The flip screen aspect is definitely key though.
@@MarkHoltze is that fake 10 bit on your cannon like it is on the sony, or real 10bit with this?
@@MylonasFilms Not sure what you mean "fake 10 bit". The Sony isn't 10 bit, fake or not. It's 8 bit, I'm not sure you can fake the colour depth. Canon C100 mark ii has always been able to do 10 bit external recording. Most older Atomos recorders can enable this.
@@MarkHoltze that's all I needed to know. The Sony Fs5 for example can use a external recorder to record 422 10 bit but it's not actual 10 bit. It's still 8 bit. Didn't the guy even say this in the video above? It's not real 10bit, just 422 out of the recorder.
I’m from Chi©ago, & when I saw that snow in the background I was like “oh no.....it’s coming soon!” Missing summer already! 😔 🙂
Haha 😂 it will be here again soon
thank you for providing insights on the atomos ninja v. bought for a year already and have not maximize on the usage.
I've got this same setup (including the camlink 4k) & I discovered that i Really like the image i get when i let the Ninja down-res my 4k input to a 1080 output using the passthrough & recording into quicktime on my computer. Maybe even as good as the "infamous" All-I 1080p from Canon?!?
Ooh very interesting!
Yo!! So happy I found this channel. You’re such a good RUclipsr 🙌🙌
Thank you so much Josh!
Seriously mate, that was such an informative video as I have been on the fence about the ninja 5 for so long 😂😂
I'm so glad to hear it was helpful!
Going to pick this recorder up. The unlimited recording limit improvement and less compression is worth the purchase in my eyes.
Totally! And they’ve got it in a crazy sale right now
Solid video, great info, 10/10 comedy 👍🏾
Great video. I boaught the A7III. I want a good monitor to record better video.
Ah! Thank you! I couldn't get a straight answer regarding time limit from other videos.
My pleasure!
The unboxing was hilarious! Thanks for that.
Haha thanks!
I am considering getting this recorder for my EOS R one day... It would get me the 4:2:2, 10 bit, prores... so it will get me an image quality upgrade. For now, I am just playing around and learning how to shoot video.
Yeah it’s seriously cool to be able to get 10 bit! But good call on playing around with the internal stuff first!
@@dunnadidit Can you confirm this: I have an EOS R and with the Ninja V, I can record video the entire time while doing a photo shoot. The video is recorded to the Ninja and the Camera RAW photos recorded to the camera. So basically I'm video recording the entire shoot as well as capturing photos. Is this correct?
That looks amazing, man. Would love to get my hands on that ninja! One day Thanks man. Great job as always 👊
Yeah it’s pretty cool! Thanks so much dude!
10:03 that Philip Bloom moment...
Haha, a star is born!
Super vid, Dunna. I aim to buy the Atomos Shogun Inferno 7 to pair with my Nikon Z6 in order to go with ProResRAW. So, a specific purpose for it then. Cheers, brother of vid excellence! 💛
P.S., kitty cameo is touch of class.
Nice! Goin with the big guns! Haha Q-Bert loves to be the center of attention
Ninja V is an indispensable tool to me. Too many great video tools, from false color to focus peaking, robust, lightweight, perfect size for framing and focusing, and the SSD card just slides right off the back for really fast data transfer. I just shot a feature; 25 X 16 hour days and it was flawless. I shot the S5 into the Ninja so I was getting Full Frame, Prores 5.9k 422 at 12 bit, non stop, all day, flawless! I would not go on a shoot without it.
I relate to that intro on so many levels...
Haha nice!
Excellent video. Thanks for doing this.
Can’t wait to get one for my X-T3. Waiting for a project that will require it haha
Haha I hear you. And you’ll get both 10 bit and glorious 4k60 (also, I recognize that you get those internally, but still...prores!)
Dunna Did It definitely excited about prores cause I’ll have an external hard drive built in, but also redundancy when recording video is a big deal for me and my work. If I’m doing a 30min + keynote 🙆🏻♂️need to have a back up
HVRIS that’s the camera I shoot with. One thing I learned was when you record in normal picture profiles through the atomos you actually loose some luminance which sucks, you’re not at 0-255 any more. If you shoot in f log you don’t need to worry. It’s a hidden thing I discovered only after getting my atomos on my x-t3 I noticed my blacks looked crushed. The data is there it has to be activated in post, again this is only when recording in standard picture profiles. Hope that helps you man.
Project Brickell thanks for letting me know! 🙏🏼will bare in mind when I buy
HVRIS I was actually contemplating returning mine after I saw that but after shooting in f log last Saturday for the entire day then color grading with the f log to eterna LUT in post I actually like it. F log is excellent and retains a good deal of dynamic range. Plus I kept it because of all the reasons Dunna mentioned here.
Aww man now I have to buy one now hahaha! Been debating it for a long time now. Thanks man! ahhhhhhh! Great video as always!
Haha I'm glad my video helped! Feel free to use those links in the description 😉
Avoid 8 bit SLog. Use HLG if you need log. Sony said so. Also, SLog3 is very hard 8 bit 4:2:0 with a crappy internal codec. Would love to see the internal vs Atomos comparison to see if grading is better with the ProRes.
What do you suggest shooting with the Sony A7iii? I've learned the hard way that grading Slog with 8-bit doesn't always work well... I've started not using a Picture Profile at all. Do you have any suggestions though? Thanks
@@ggfilms9532 don't use Slog at all - HLG is you need a bit more dynamic range to do some minor tweaks later
Gerald Undone has a walkthrough of the various picture profiles. If I am not doing much post processing I do rec709 gamma with Movie profile
I planned on upgrading my AndyCine A6 to the Atomos Shinobi, but you've talked me into going with the Ninja V when the time comes. Thanks! I think..
Nice!
@@dunnadidit I bought Shinobis for both of my A7III but ended up returning them when I found out that you cannot have neither proxy recording or face detection when using HDMI and recording internally. Just like it's been told in this video. Too bad Ninja V was 2x the price of Shinobi and I wasn't happy with HDMI starting lag (takes like 5 to 10 seconds to see an image in monitor when turning on the camera) so I still don't have a monitor.
Yeah it's definitely a flawed system still (as all are)
Is it just me or is there a weird sound at 11:26?
Great video as always, Dunna. I picked one up for myself for all the same reasons and it’s made a world of difference in my workflow.
So weird!! I just double checked my export as well and it’s in there. Something weird happened on the export from premiere I guess 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks a ton! That’s awesome to hear!
Dunna Did It I mean, it just sounds like you’re cussing out the 29:59 recording limit, and I echo that sentiment.
@@dunnadidit you could potentially eliminate the sound via youtube studio. Its quite irritating.
That sounded like a phat bass drop.
I tried to get rid of it, unfortunately I couldn't get it to go.
Thanks man, I have a Sony a7s 1 with a Ninja Assassin to record 4k (old gear) and I just bought a a7 III... I was thinking about selling my Atomos, but after your video, I will stay with him a little longer.
ahh, future proofing. famous last words to anyone who wants to buy thing they don't need. great videos dunna
Lol so true!!
Such a good review! Keep it up 👍🏼
Hey i finally subscribe!! Love you stuff man.
Thanks!!
Waaaaiting for that a7siii 🙈😄 and I am eying on the monitor for a while too. I‘m curious what you‘re gonna say in a few weeks or months 😊
I hear that for sure! I think this will still be super handy when Sony has 10 bit and 4k60 though!
I shot a whole video on it last week (for next Monday) and it was FANTASTIC. NOOOO REGRETS AT ALL!
With the a7sii you’ll notice a big difference in color ( 4.2.2 ) you won’t regret it . I used the ninja v on my sii and never recorded with out it 🙏🏽
Nice!
Great vid, Dunna as always. I’ve had my NinjaV almost a year now, I chose it over the less expensive ones because of loosing the face tracking with other monitors. Thanks GeraldUndone.
That was definitely a huge factor for me too!
The only reason I wanted to buy a monitor is because the A7III doesn't have a flip screen. I often make pictures with the camera close to the ground in portrait orientation, I can't see anything while I'm doing this... But I ordered a workaround from Aliexpress for €5, just a phone holder mounted on a cold shoe adapter, so I can put my smartphone on top of my camera and connect them through Wifi.
Love your videos. And I love your cat wanting to join the video!
Great video! a7iii can create proxies internally also, might save you some time!
That’s true!! Unfortunately they’re still mp4 proxies but they can be helpful! And much smaller in size!
There’s a work around 30 min limit without having to buy a monitor. Do a search on RUclips. I tried it on my a7s2 and a6500 both have no limit now.
That stopped working on the newer Sony cameras though. They stopped using playmemories which is where the hack happened. I had it on my a6500 before
Thanks for the great video, now i have to buy yet another accessory xD
Haha you’re welcome and I’m sorry
OMG thank you so much :) I am just in the same situation like you :)
I used to have a Video Device Pix video recorder which was able to record 60p Prores HQ even though I was outputting 24p from the camera. It kind of made an override of the incoming signal and recorded on to whatever framerate you selected.
How do you fix this? I’ve had this problem for so long.
I got the Atomos Ninja V for my GH5 & GH5s and I love it.
NICE!
Lovely video. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Thanks for the review! This helped a lot
Nice vid! thx for tips :)
Nailed it, same reasons as me getting one recently.
Nice!!
That intro, ive never related to anything more in my life LOL.
Hahaha nice!
Did you end up buying it? haha
Nicholas Fong - well obviously I did... @JHawk ???
@@dunnadidit LOL it was actually for the 120D, but yes i finally pulled the trigger :)
JHawk - nice! Love that light! I’ve been considering a 300d lately.
Maybe do a video comparison between the 420 and 422 color information.
Screen recording question. How do you NOT record the screen?
You better do a follow up to this, because now I'm thinking of getting one 🤣
Haha let me tell you I absolutely love it already.
Big fan from Indonesia. Please do an opinion video about Cajon eos R5
GREAT VIDEO THANKS FOR THE GREAT CONTENT! WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED?
11:25 made me thinking that my computer was gonna give up one me! phew!
Questions to the opening 30seconds yes EVERYDAY
Hahaha
I still rock the a7s MK I with a 28-135 f 4.0 G OSS and just bought the Ninja V after 4 years owning the camera to finally be able to shoot in 4K.
Nice!!
Is it really 4k??? I thought the camera only outputs 1080 to the ninja.
Thanks man , really helped ❤️
That’s great to hear! Thanks for watching!
Great vids champ
Best Unboxing EVER!!!!!
I can tell you why I got the Ninja V.
It's mostly about quality (yes indeed) and saving $$$.
So, I got a second hand A7s because I wanted that sensor but didnt want to pay a premium price. My previous inexpensive APS-C Canon camera just didn't cut it when it came to video quality, at 1080p the footage looks a bit mushy, and at 4k the crop and noise is just too much.
The A7s was a big improvement here already with hugely better quality even at 1080p, but when I saw what it can do at 4K, the Ninja V was a must-have (since the A7s cannot record 4k internally). Also got a good deal on it. The quality of the 4k prores 422 recording with the Ninja V is lightyears ahead of anything I ever used before. That's not a very subtle difference.
So this setup now allows me to get really decent 4K footage, since the A7s sensor is still really good, and the internal recording quality of the Ninja V is top notch as well. I believe there is no other way to get this kind of video quality for so little money.
Apart from that, it's pretty useful to have a high quality field monitor while recording.
Of course it's much easier just to use my old canon with continuous autofocus and all, it's also smaller and lighter. But the video quality really hurts my eyes, now more than ever before.
Sometimes a lightweight and easy-to-use setup just doesn't cut it.
Of course the A7s II could also be an option, since it records 4K internally. But then I still would want to have a field monitor. And the A7s II records at a way lower bitrate than the Ninja V, I kinda doubt it could keep up with it quality-wise.
Surely the A7s III would be great, but it's still pretty darn expensive.
So, being on a tight budget, the Ninja V together with the A7s is quite an interesting option. Plus it gives me all the added value that the Ninja V provides, which is quite substantial in total. The only thing I'm missing is a good autofocus, but there's no inexpensive way I can imagine to get a really good autofocus with this kind of video quality, so I have to live with it for now.
oh man! got 2 of these and I love them!
Niiicce!
Dope video! Now it’s time for me to spend some money
Haha nice!!