Thanks for this video! I'm glad I ran into it, I was so close to buying the ninja and then realized I can save money with the Shinobi. I really just need the monitor and this explanation is what I was looking for. Thanks again!
I decided on the Ninja V due to the HDMI out for wireless video transmitter. I found myself doing a recent live stream and with two camera's, one closer to any computer and the other at a distance (less than 300 ft) and it would make it so much easier if I were able to view the monitor at a distance.
Hi Sam, excellent review!. Almost year later and now you have in the market a new range of these monitors allowing live streaming, from the Zato to the Connect accesories for the Ninja's. Would be great to see a comparison/review of these new options!. Cheers and keep the good work!.
Hi Sam. Really enjoyed this review. I am in the market for an external monitor/recorder. I have the Canon EOSR6 and it has the over heating issue. Do you think if I use the Ninja, I can avoid the over heating issue since the signal is being sent to the recorder? I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks man!
I have both of these as well and i actually use my Shinobi more than the Ninja V.... mainly because of the weight and battery life and i don't need the external recording since i no longer use the R, so with the C70 don't have a crazy benefit for me. Great video as always!
@@SakkiDuran Well, I mean "with" dual SD cards. There are events that just can't repeat themselves like weddings and it only takes one wedding to fuck up and you're nearly out of business.
First off great video!! Always wondered the difference. I think I'd go for the Shinobi for now. If I did video projects full time I would probably get the V. But cheaper and does the job is my motto for now lol
I was about to pull the trigger on the Ninja until watching this. I make ASMR camping video's and just run a Rode Pro + on the camera, that'll pick up the fan yea? Battery life and weight is a serious consideration... Thinking I'll start looking at Shinobi or anything you can recommend one year later. Awesome vid mate!
Great comparison, thanks a lot for this. I'm now deciding the Shinobi would make much more sense for me since a lot of times I don't have access to a plug during a shoot, so I use all the battery I can get. And since I'm doing a lot of moving around and gimbal lifting I could really use the lighter weight. Also I have an a7iv which records 10bit 4K internally so I don't really see the need for the Ninja V at all. Just a question: I read the Shinobi uses NP-F battery types. With my Sony I use NP-FZ100 batteries. Would those be compatible with the monitor, by any chance? It was super helpful to watch your video, thanks again!
Hey thanks for the information. Question. Does it matter what year ninja v someone has? I seen one for sale and it had a 1920x1200 resolution… but others have 1920x1080. And new to this and I want to purchase one but not sure about certain specs. Will a firmware update change the resolution from old to new? Or should I just buy a newer model?
i'm torn between the two. budget isn't really an issue and for that I'm leaning towards the Ninja V and more importantly because I use an 8 bit camera (A7III). however, I'm not too interested in the battery life, it being heavier, and needing to purchase an SSD for the Ninja V. which route would you take if you were in my shoes? any help is appreciated, thanks and love the videos!
Are the Shinobi colors acurate with your camera? I noticed on my Ninja V they are very warm vs. my camera. So I returned it instead of spending more to calibrate it.
Hi @Sam Holland thanks for the review. As a newbie I’m deciding between the Ninja V and the Portkeys LH5p ii do you know much about that monitor and if so which would you go for?
Thanks for this really useful video. I’ve just ordered a Nikon Z8 which can record 10bit ProRes Raw internally so I’m thinking the Shinobi might be the one to go for to save weight and gain extra battery life. Would be interested to hear what you think.
Hi Sam, thank you for the great review, I've just ordered the Ninja V so I can get more recording time out of my GoPro 10 as it gets very hot and shuts down with the media mod fitted. I have also ordered the Hahnel HL-XL982 battery as it also has a USB output so I can keep the GoPro charged up also. I should be able to take both timelapse in the GoPro and 10-bit on the monitor to make a time-lapse video easily and just choose the normal speed interesting footage from the monitor. I also have an HDMI microscope that I'm using with a telescope too, so an external high-quality recorder would be good there too. Thank you again, I've subscribed as like your content 👍
@@SamHolland Hi Sam, a little update, this is an amazing screen, where I now have a Sony ZV-E10, Crane M2 S and a long pole to get some great drone style shots, plus the GoPro 10 creates some good time lapse video on it too. I am using a standard 500GB SSD within the caddy supplied with the monitor, have a cage and hood for it too (SmallRig) and use the Lindy CROMO right angle adaptors to ensure the HDMI connectors remain out the way (highly recommended, plus they look smart). The GoPro 10 is obviously not as good as the Sony ZV-E10 as everything is squeezed in there with a small lens, but the 200fps looks really good, so both cameras have their plusses.
Thanks for the video! Deciding between the two still as I'm shooting with A7SIII. Right now, I'm using a budget monitor, AndycineA6 plus, which is like under $200. Just not bright enough, has lut support, wave forms, 4k display. External recording isn't something I need right now but may want to do later. I feel like I'm leaning towards the Ninja V based on the comments but will be doing some more research
Thanks for this video Sam, I was looking at these today! I have an EOS R, so I'm thinking it will be worth getting the Ninja V for the extra 10-bit recording 👍
Hi, thanks for the comparison, it’s interesting. I need to check if the price of Ninja V + AngelBird 512GB SSD is higher as Shinobi + 512GB AngelBird CF express Type B for in camera recording.
Just want to say, I lost my drone on the weekend in South Snowdonia. Did something like you did. I also thought of you straight away. Managed to download the weeks flying video's as it had plenty of power. But a load of Wonga down the drain!
@SamHolland I have a Sony A7Iv. I use it for streaming webcam or for recording in streamOBS. now I also want to record things outside in open world. in 4:2:2. what should I get? Sony A7Iv have issue with over heating if the card is slower. some one suggested me to get Atomos Ninja V. what should I do?
Just ordered the Shinobi and got the accessory kit and cable... I cant edit the large files until I can upgrade my editing suite but by then I can afford a Ninja V, and I can always sell the Shinobi
Got my Ninja v with xcast module (do a lot of live streaming) and used it on my gimbal rig as a monitor and recorder last Thursday, so cool as I'm a lot older than you it helped my old eyes 👀 Also editing straight off the ssd drive instead of faffing with importing data first streamlined my workflow a bit too. Great video mate
😂 monitors definitely help with seeing what you’re filming a bit better. Yeh so much smoother isn’t it! I’m pleased you found it useful! Thanks for watching 🤩🙏🏻🎥
Did you notice that with the Shinobi - while recording VLOG with a LUT displayed on the monitor that the false colour or waveform information uses the LOG image. However, using the Ninja V the false colour or waveform information uses the LOG image + LUT. Atomos are aware of this.
I have Ninja V and it's "must have" for me since my NIkon Z6 doesn't record 10bit/422 internally. I have just one issue with Ninja's active cooling, though - while you're rigging it with an on-camera mic, the noise from the fan is quite obvious in the recordings while the mic and the Ninja are close to each other. Even if I use some kind of articulated arm to place the mic more far from the body it still catches some noise.
Hi Slav. I know what you mean about the fan being loud. Might be worth playing with the audio levels a little bit as I don’t have any issues with the noise interfering. I have some videos on audio if you need. (Not saying you do) 🤩🙏🏻 Thanks for watching 🎥
@@SamHolland I don't need, thanks ^_- I'm a post production sound guy for about 12 years so maybe I'm a bit more sensitive to audio noise than most of filmmakers. And it also really depends on type of mic (cardioid gets more of this fan noise than super-cardioid of example) and levels of noise and signal and how they compare to each other. If the source is quite loud I can set gain (or volume on post) to appropriate level and won't have any problem with it whatsoever, but if it's not loud I have to make some boost on post (or gain) for example which cause some increasing of noise floor and fan noise too of course.. Yes, you can use some denoiser stuff but it's sometimes kinda destructive to voice and it's always a compromise too. Needless to say if I use lav mics or set my mic overhead far from Atomos I don't have any issues :)
@@redcat. I have the same set up.. I will advice you record audio externally and sync in post, that way you get the best audio and it's even a cheaper setup ( get the tascam or zoom small recorder ).. Most big prod setup use external audio recording anyways..
Nice review, thanks! Question, just got a Sony A7siii and want a monitor to view while 4k 60 internally....From the specs, I don't think the Shinobi will display 4K 60 and looks like I need to get the Ninja V or the Ninja V Plus....thoughts?
Although they are similar for some reason the Ninja has social guides where Shinobi does not. Not sure why Atomos haven’t introduced these as they are super useful in todays world of filming.
I like your video...but you forgot 2 bigs things with the Ninja V. First, when you record on the Ninja V, there is no more time limit of 30 minutes. Second, no more overheating on some cameras like the Canon R5 and R6. I have a Canon R6, so for me, i decided to go with the Ninja V. I already have the Ninja Flame, but it doesn't record in 4K 60fps... only 30fps. So that's why i'm switching to the Ninja V. It's not the first video i watched from you, and it's always goods videos. So i'm subscribing to your chanel. Thank you. 😉😊
So, do I understand that correct, at about 6:10, this means, if I need a recorder for e.g. creating manuals and showing what's going in the configuration menus, I need the Ninja V and can't do it with the Shinobi?
Thanks for the review. It's such a tough decision to make because fundamentally I just want a monitor and the only feature I really want from the ninja v is the onion skin overlay. It's a shame the Shinobi doesn't do it because it doesn't store anything.
I have the Ninja V and I absolutely love it, it did some reviews on it too. But thinking for a second monitor and Shinobi could be the perfect feet for it 🤔 Thanks for the review
Hey. Yeah totally! If you don’t NEED the recording capabilities for your camera 2, then the Shinobi will be perfect! 💪🏻 that’s what I’ve done. Used them both for a job yesterday and it’s so much better than 1 Thanks for watching 🤩🙏🏻💪🏻
So when I upload the footage into my computer do I send the video files from the SSD to the computer and then again send the files from the memory card and somehow combine them into one? Having 2 different forms of storage is very confusing as I'm brand new to the videographry world
Hi. No you just use the one file. Whichever one you prefer to work with. Prores (from the ninja v) will take up more storage space but it will run faster on your computer making it easier to edit. 🙏🏻 hope this helps 🎥
Great video Sam! But for me the Ninja V. That Pro Res RAW ability would be so useful, especially with the Sony A7siii. Certainly, if you don't need that external recording capability, the Shinobi is a no brainer!
if i were to record 6k 30p or 4k 60p on the new lumix s5iiX, will this display on the shinobi...not record, just display the image on the shinobi for me to view while filming?
@@SamHolland much cheaper than the ninja ssd thanks I would like one for my s5 for the 6k raw but have windows based computer new and upto date but will I be able to use any of it due to not owning a Mac for the software ? Would the black magic be a better option for me? Thanks
There’s a few monitors I’d love to try so I’ll add it to the list 🤩👌🏻 I also love the features of the DJI 4D monitor! That MF metering is insane! Ah no I didn’t 😢 but I have a present coning from DJI soon 🤩🎉
@@SamHolland hi ... 👋 thank you, I bought shinobi 5" sadly there are no connecting cables or mount included however they added power adapter for not much use 🙂, I am happy with quality overall, it works fine but I don't have access to my camera screen and 'Q'uick option 🤏. Thanks again 🤝
Wonga who says that ....... You do .... you have nearly saved me some but not sure if the Ninja would improve the footage from My soon to have Canon R3 aslo does it do anything for the R6 I know you can output 10bit on the R .... PS the R3 does 6K 12 bit internal .... cheers H
Ooooo mate! That might throw another spanner in the works… if you want the slow motion and extra Ks, might be worth looking at the Ninja V + (PLUS)! 🤩🤩🤩 maybe I shouldn’t have said that! 😂 I use the Ninja V with the R6 when I want to record prores. Just smoothens my workflow a little rather than creating proxies. But again, massive file sizes. So now I use the Shinobi with the R6 for client work and the Ninja V with the R for 10bit.
@@HiethGeorge Thanks so if I understand correctly there is no Raw output on the R3 to ninja v so maximum would be 60fps 10bit? Thanks for your response
I’m sooo glad you did this review, Sam! I just ordered the Ninja V yesterday, but thanks to your review, I realise now the Shinobi is a better choice for me, so have changed my order. Thanks, mate. 👍🇦🇺🦘
I have an A7s 3 with the Ninja V, and I have tried everything, I use exactly this configuration of yours, and yet the file of the camera cards in S-log 3 come out with more dynamic range, more washed, less contrasted and saturated than the files recorded on the SSD inside the Ninja, could someone help me???!
Any tips on getting the best input to the Shinobi? I bought one second hand and got a couple HDMIs with it, but I can only monitor while actually recording to my Sony A7iii if I'm shooting in 1080. Obviously, I would like to be able to use the monitor for the majority of my shooting in 4K 24p, but when I hit record, the shinobi's screen goes black, and I feel like this must be because of the HDMI? I've messed around with the settings and haven't been able to solve this...
Oooo that’s strange. It could be a Sony thing? I haven’t run into that problem with the canons or Lumix. Anybody know?… thanks for watching. Let us know if you sort it 🤞🏻🤞🏻🎥🤩
If I pick up something like a Sony FX3 or FX6, would I still be able to shoot at 4k 60fps or 120 fps and view it through an Atomos Shinobi? Or is it that the Shinobi cannot display 4k at 60fps, 120fps, Im confused about all this, would you mind helping me? Thanks in advance!!
Hi. You’ll be able to use these as a monitor while recording but you can’t record those frame rates to the Ninja V. So you’ll just have to record to your camera card… There is however, the new Ninja V + that does support higher frame rates. Hope this helps 🤩🙏🏻 thanks for watching 🎥
So just to be clear the Ninja V is the only one that can record through the camera because I have two sony cameras that have the 030 minute limit to record.
Yeh there’s a massive difference but if you have the mic in the right position, it shouldn’t pick up the sound of the fan 👌🏻 I have plenty of audio and mic placement videos on my channel that should help if you need 🎥🙏🏻
@@SamHolland i must be blind .. coudln't find a comparison video between the ninja v and shinobi fan noise and also not on how and where to mount the microphone when using the ninja v .. can you send me the links? thanks in advance!
@@SamHolland this one i watched, but it doesn't say where to mount the mic on a cage next to the external screen, which is what i wanted to know :) thanks though
@@SamHolland thank you. knew there was something wrong with this... Look like i'm not the only one that received this. Thank you for your fast response.
Dude you deserve more subscribers. Loved the vid!
Hey thanks so much, Patrick 🤩🎥🙏🏻 pleased you liked the video and hope it helped
Thanks! Finally made my decision!
Thanks for this video! I'm glad I ran into it, I was so close to buying the ninja and then realized I can save money with the Shinobi. I really just need the monitor and this explanation is what I was looking for. Thanks again!
Hey. I’m so pleased this helped 🤩🙏🏻 thanks for watching
This is so useful! Thank you
I decided on the Ninja V due to the HDMI out for wireless video transmitter. I found myself doing a recent live stream and with two camera's, one closer to any computer and the other at a distance (less than 300 ft) and it would make it so much easier if I were able to view the monitor at a distance.
Hi Sam, excellent review!. Almost year later and now you have in the market a new range of these monitors allowing live streaming, from the Zato to the Connect accesories for the Ninja's. Would be great to see a comparison/review of these new options!. Cheers and keep the good work!.
Thank you 🙏🏻
I’ll try and get my hands on some 🎥🤩
Thanks Sam!! Really enjoyed this video 🧡
Hi Sam. Really enjoyed this review. I am in the market for an external monitor/recorder. I have the Canon EOSR6 and it has the over heating issue. Do you think if I use the Ninja, I can avoid the over heating issue since the signal is being sent to the recorder? I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks man!
I have both of these as well and i actually use my Shinobi more than the Ninja V.... mainly because of the weight and battery life and i don't need the external recording since i no longer use the R, so with the C70 don't have a crazy benefit for me.
Great video as always!
So true. I think I’ll be using the Shinobi more going forward also to be honest 👌🏻
Woo! 🎥🎉 thanks for watching brother!!! 🙏🏻 always appreciate it
Thank you, great job!
great videos I hope you keep these up, they really help people trying to get into filmmaking, Thanks!
Hi. I’m so pleased this helped you! I will keep making them. Thank you for watching 🤩🙏🏻🎥
Great review and rundown
Always appreciate your work bruv
Thank you so much! 🤩🙏🏻 I appreciate you taking your time to watch. I hope the videos help in some way 🎥
The Ninja will be essential for backup recording for something you can't really film again like a wedding.
Just make them redo the ceremony!
😂👏🏻 nobody wants to sit through them twice 😛
@Ethan Debelak 😆Not a bad idea.
Not if you already use double SD cards xd
@@SakkiDuran Well, I mean "with" dual SD cards. There are events that just can't repeat themselves like weddings and it only takes one wedding to fuck up and you're nearly out of business.
Great video, Really helpful! Thanks 😊
Thanks Luke. Pleased it helped 🤩🙏🏻🎥
Very good comunication!!!
Great video and love your energy. Subscribed!
Thanks! this is the video I needed
Thanks James. I’m pleased this helped 🙏🏻🎥
I just bought the Shinobi. You video just confirmed my choice Thank you !
Hi Olivier. I’m pleased this video helped you and I hope you enjoy using the monitor 🤩🙏🏻🎥 thanks for watching
First off great video!! Always wondered the difference. I think I'd go for the Shinobi for now. If I did video projects full time I would probably get the V. But cheaper and does the job is my motto for now lol
Yes!!! I like that motto but always seem to forget it 😂 thanks for watching bro
Great review, thanks.
Thank you. Hope it helped 🙏🏻🎥🤩
You're the real deal bro!! Many thanks!
My pleasure! You’re the legend!! 🙏🏻🤩🎥
I was about to pull the trigger on the Ninja until watching this. I make ASMR camping video's and just run a Rode Pro + on the camera, that'll pick up the fan yea? Battery life and weight is a serious consideration... Thinking I'll start looking at Shinobi or anything you can recommend one year later. Awesome vid mate!
So is the Shinobi less loud compared to the ninja? What's the difference in sound?
Hello, excellent review! How long did the bigger battery last in the Ninja? Thanks in advance.
Great comparison, thanks a lot for this. I'm now deciding the Shinobi would make much more sense for me since a lot of times I don't have access to a plug during a shoot, so I use all the battery I can get. And since I'm doing a lot of moving around and gimbal lifting I could really use the lighter weight. Also I have an a7iv which records 10bit 4K internally so I don't really see the need for the Ninja V at all.
Just a question: I read the Shinobi uses NP-F battery types. With my Sony I use NP-FZ100 batteries. Would those be compatible with the monitor, by any chance?
It was super helpful to watch your video, thanks again!
Hey thanks for the information. Question. Does it matter what year ninja v someone has? I seen one for sale and it had a 1920x1200 resolution… but others have 1920x1080. And new to this and I want to purchase one but not sure about certain specs. Will a firmware update change the resolution from old to new? Or should I just buy a newer model?
Wonderful video! Thank you for the information!
Thank YOU for watching 🙏🏻 I hope it helped. Happy Christmas 🎉🎄
Subbed, this is what I want to know. Thanks
i'm torn between the two. budget isn't really an issue and for that I'm leaning towards the Ninja V and more importantly because I use an 8 bit camera (A7III). however, I'm not too interested in the battery life, it being heavier, and needing to purchase an SSD for the Ninja V.
which route would you take if you were in my shoes? any help is appreciated, thanks and love the videos!
Are the Shinobi colors acurate with your camera?
I noticed on my Ninja V they are very warm vs. my camera. So I returned it instead of spending more to calibrate it.
Yet another great video Sam!!!
I will go for Shinoby 😎
Hey!!! Ah nice one 🤩 that’s exciting. Let me know what you think to it. Thanks for watching 🎥🙏🏻
Thanks for this video.
Can you post a picture of your set up with Sandisk SSD please?
Informative video. TY.
Thank you!!! 🤩🙏🏻🎥
Hi @Sam Holland thanks for the review. As a newbie I’m deciding between the Ninja V and the Portkeys LH5p ii do you know much about that monitor and if so which would you go for?
Would you also suggest to use this to complement a Canon R5C? If so; rather the Ninja V(+) or Shinobi?
Thanks for this really useful video. I’ve just ordered a Nikon Z8 which can record 10bit ProRes Raw internally so I’m thinking the Shinobi might be the one to go for to save weight and gain extra battery life. Would be interested to hear what you think.
How long does the bigger battery last when recording 4k ProRes Raw on the Ninja V?
Hi Sam, thank you for the great review, I've just ordered the Ninja V so I can get more recording time out of my GoPro 10 as it gets very hot and shuts down with the media mod fitted. I have also ordered the Hahnel HL-XL982 battery as it also has a USB output so I can keep the GoPro charged up also. I should be able to take both timelapse in the GoPro and 10-bit on the monitor to make a time-lapse video easily and just choose the normal speed interesting footage from the monitor. I also have an HDMI microscope that I'm using with a telescope too, so an external high-quality recorder would be good there too. Thank you again, I've subscribed as like your content 👍
Thanks Neil 🤩🙏🏻🎥 that’s exciting
@@SamHolland Hi Sam, a little update, this is an amazing screen, where I now have a Sony ZV-E10, Crane M2 S and a long pole to get some great drone style shots, plus the GoPro 10 creates some good time lapse video on it too. I am using a standard 500GB SSD within the caddy supplied with the monitor, have a cage and hood for it too (SmallRig) and use the Lindy CROMO right angle adaptors to ensure the HDMI connectors remain out the way (highly recommended, plus they look smart). The GoPro 10 is obviously not as good as the Sony ZV-E10 as everything is squeezed in there with a small lens, but the 200fps looks really good, so both cameras have their plusses.
Thanks for the video! Deciding between the two still as I'm shooting with A7SIII. Right now, I'm using a budget monitor, AndycineA6 plus, which is like under $200. Just not bright enough, has lut support, wave forms, 4k display. External recording isn't something I need right now but may want to do later. I feel like I'm leaning towards the Ninja V based on the comments but will be doing some more research
does your shinobi screen get hot? I wonder if i'm just using too big of a battery. Sony NPF970
Recording externally to the ninja V, will this work around the crop factor whilst recording in 4k at 60fps? (S5 user)
Thanks for this video Sam, I was looking at these today! I have an EOS R, so I'm thinking it will be worth getting the Ninja V for the extra 10-bit recording 👍
That’s amazing! 🤩 I’m so pleased this helped. Good luck with the new monitor 🎉🙏🏻🎥
what out are you using love the skin tones
hi sam, Which color looks close to the camera？
Hi, thanks for the comparison, it’s interesting.
I need to check if the price of Ninja V + AngelBird 512GB SSD is higher as Shinobi + 512GB AngelBird CF express Type B for in camera recording.
Great video bro
Thanks Jake 🎥🤩🙏🏻
Just want to say, I lost my drone on the weekend in South Snowdonia. Did something like you did. I also thought of you straight away. Managed to download the weeks flying video's as it had plenty of power. But a load of Wonga down the drain!
Oh no!!!!!! 😩😩 I’m sorry to hear that. Good job you got the footage. Not good about the wonga drain! 🙏🏻 RIP drones
@SamHolland I have a Sony A7Iv. I use it for streaming webcam or for recording in streamOBS. now I also want to record things outside in open world. in 4:2:2. what should I get? Sony A7Iv have issue with over heating if the card is slower. some one suggested me to get Atomos Ninja V. what should I do?
Great video 👍👍
Thank you 🤩🙏🏻🎥
thanks for sharing. great vid. Is the Shinobi significantly quieter, or almost as loud as the Ninja?
Thank you. Yeh it’s quieter than the ninja. 🙏🏻🤩🎥
Love it ❤️❤️❤️❤️
can the EOS R not output 10 bit to the Shinobi?
I shoot 4k 120p 10bit slog3 on sony 7siii. Will i be able to view this on shinobi?
Just ordered the Shinobi and got the accessory kit and cable... I cant edit the large files until I can upgrade my editing suite but by then I can afford a Ninja V, and I can always sell the Shinobi
Does the Shinobi ever get hot to the touch?
I use the Shinobi SDI version and love it 👍
Nice!!! 🤩👌🏻🎥
What’s better for gaming vids
do any of these monitors play sound . if you was to play video back through from the camera via the hdmi input port . thanks ..
Do these monitors have touch focus?
Got my Ninja v with xcast module (do a lot of live streaming) and used it on my gimbal rig as a monitor and recorder last Thursday, so cool as I'm a lot older than you it helped my old eyes 👀
Also editing straight off the ssd drive instead of faffing with importing data first streamlined my workflow a bit too.
Great video mate
😂 monitors definitely help with seeing what you’re filming a bit better.
Yeh so much smoother isn’t it! I’m pleased you found it useful! Thanks for watching 🤩🙏🏻🎥
@@SamHolland fake account trying a scam using your profile pic in this thread mate
Thanks. It’s been happening all day. Sorry
@@SamHolland no need to apologise just thoughts it's worth warning people
Definitely. Thank you 🙏🏻🎥
Is the shinobi compatable with nikon d4?i know the ninja v is,before i purchase?
Interesting battery life on the shinobi. My SmallHD Focus gets at least two hours on the smallest NPF battery.
Did you notice that with the Shinobi - while recording VLOG with a LUT displayed on the monitor that the false colour or waveform information uses the LOG image. However, using the Ninja V the false colour or waveform information uses the LOG image + LUT. Atomos are aware of this.
What is the battery life like for the Ninja V if it isnt being used to record?
on Reddit I read 2.5h
No 4k60 on Shinobz display ?
I have Ninja V and it's "must have" for me since my NIkon Z6 doesn't record 10bit/422 internally. I have just one issue with Ninja's active cooling, though - while you're rigging it with an on-camera mic, the noise from the fan is quite obvious in the recordings while the mic and the Ninja are close to each other. Even if I use some kind of articulated arm to place the mic more far from the body it still catches some noise.
Hi Slav.
I know what you mean about the fan being loud. Might be worth playing with the audio levels a little bit as I don’t have any issues with the noise interfering.
I have some videos on audio if you need. (Not saying you do) 🤩🙏🏻
Thanks for watching 🎥
@@SamHolland I don't need, thanks ^_-
I'm a post production sound guy for about 12 years so maybe I'm a bit more sensitive to audio noise than most of filmmakers. And it also really depends on type of mic (cardioid gets more of this fan noise than super-cardioid of example) and levels of noise and signal and how they compare to each other. If the source is quite loud I can set gain (or volume on post) to appropriate level and won't have any problem with it whatsoever, but if it's not loud I have to make some boost on post (or gain) for example which cause some increasing of noise floor and fan noise too of course.. Yes, you can use some denoiser stuff but it's sometimes kinda destructive to voice and it's always a compromise too.
Needless to say if I use lav mics or set my mic overhead far from Atomos I don't have any issues :)
@@redcat. I have the same set up.. I will advice you record audio externally and sync in post, that way you get the best audio and it's even a cheaper setup ( get the tascam or zoom small recorder ).. Most big prod setup use external audio recording anyways..
Nice review, thanks! Question, just got a Sony A7siii and want a monitor to view while 4k 60 internally....From the specs, I don't think the Shinobi will display 4K 60 and looks like I need to get the Ninja V or the Ninja V Plus....thoughts?
Need an answer for this
DO YOU ALSO HAVE A VIDEO ABOUT THE: ATOM A5 VAXIS MONITOR? Please 😎
Although they are similar for some reason the Ninja has social guides where Shinobi does not.
Not sure why Atomos haven’t introduced these as they are super useful in todays world of filming.
Is Shinobi compatible with Canon R6 Mark II and R5? Website says no, it didn’t know if anyone has had success with this.
Does anyone have a problem not having full screen with Sony A7SIII?
If I'm filming 10-bit, 4k, 50fps on my Sony FX30, will I be able to view what I'm recording on the Shinobi monitor?
I like your video...but you forgot 2 bigs things with the Ninja V. First, when you record on the Ninja V, there is no more time limit of 30 minutes. Second, no more overheating on some cameras like the Canon R5 and R6. I have a Canon R6, so for me, i decided to go with the Ninja V. I already have the Ninja Flame, but it doesn't record in 4K 60fps... only 30fps. So that's why i'm switching to the Ninja V. It's not the first video i watched from you, and it's always goods videos. So i'm subscribing to your chanel. Thank you. 😉😊
These look amazing I've seen a lot of these at adorama
So, do I understand that correct, at about 6:10, this means, if I need a recorder for e.g. creating manuals and showing what's going in the configuration menus, I need the Ninja V and can't do it with the Shinobi?
That’s right
Currently Atomos Ninja V is on sale for Black Friday and Cyber Monday. -$150 off. Where the Shinobi not on sale.
Thanks for this review! Does the ninja v have a recording time limit?
(Like canon’s 30 minute limit on its DSLRs)
Hey Jay. The ninja v takes an ssd card so it all depends on how big that storage is and what codec you record at. Hope this helps 🤩🙏🏻🎥
Thanks for the review. It's such a tough decision to make because fundamentally I just want a monitor and the only feature I really want from the ninja v is the onion skin overlay. It's a shame the Shinobi doesn't do it because it doesn't store anything.
V ninja vs T owl? They're the same model
I have the Ninja V and I absolutely love it, it did some reviews on it too. But thinking for a second monitor and Shinobi could be the perfect feet for it 🤔
Thanks for the review
Hey. Yeah totally! If you don’t NEED the recording capabilities for your camera 2, then the Shinobi will be perfect! 💪🏻 that’s what I’ve done. Used them both for a job yesterday and it’s so much better than 1
Thanks for watching 🤩🙏🏻💪🏻
You should make a vid on how to make your S5 photos look like film/fujifilm!
That would be cool. I’m bringing out a retro LUT pack next week so that could be what you’re after 🤩🎥🙏🏻
So when I upload the footage into my computer do I send the video files from the SSD to the computer and then again send the files from the memory card and somehow combine them into one? Having 2 different forms of storage is very confusing as I'm brand new to the videographry world
Hi. No you just use the one file. Whichever one you prefer to work with. Prores (from the ninja v) will take up more storage space but it will run faster on your computer making it easier to edit. 🙏🏻 hope this helps 🎥
I guess I’m getting the Ninja V to pair up with the Sony FX3
Awesome!!! 🤩 great combo! 👌🏻🎥
I got my Shinobi a week ago but there's only a dummy battery and I can't find which battery I need to buy for it xD
Great video Sam! But for me the Ninja V. That Pro Res RAW ability would be so useful, especially with the Sony A7siii. Certainly, if you don't need that external recording capability, the Shinobi is a no brainer!
Thanks for watching brother! 🙏🏻🎥 great tools to have 🤩
If i shoot 4k 120p 10bit slog3 will i be able to view it on shinobi?
if i were to record 6k 30p or 4k 60p on the new lumix s5iiX, will this display on the shinobi...not record, just display the image on the shinobi for me to view while filming?
curious about this too
Is there any reliable alternative (mainly to apply LUTs) to the shinobi? Its an end of life product atomos told me…
are they going to discontinue it?
@@andrew_veale I was told so by an official representative...
My Sony a6600 can record 10 bit 4.2.2 externally, so does that mean I need an external monitor that has to have a recording facility?
That’s right. The Ninja V will be the one for you. Along with an SSD hard drive. I use this one… geni.us/vVcJE
Hope this helps 🙏🏻🎥
@@SamHolland much cheaper than the ninja ssd thanks I would like one for my s5 for the 6k raw but have windows based computer new and upto date but will I be able to use any of it due to not owning a Mac for the software ? Would the black magic be a better option for me? Thanks
So is the Blackmagic Video Assist 5"/7" 12G HDR a complete no-no then?
Hi. I haven’t tried this monitor so I can’t comment on that.
Thanks for watching 🤩🙏🏻🎥
@@SamHolland you should, it's at least on a par with the Ninja range 👍🏼 Did you ever recover your drone? I still feel sick for you 😓
There’s a few monitors I’d love to try so I’ll add it to the list 🤩👌🏻 I also love the features of the DJI 4D monitor! That MF metering is insane!
Ah no I didn’t 😢 but I have a present coning from DJI soon 🤩🎉
@@SamHolland I've got the Blackmagic Video Assist 5" 12G HDR which I'll happily loan to you if you'd like to create a side by side review of the 3?
Hi, can you tell me if atomos shinobi 5" works fine with canon eos m5 and m6. Thanks alot 🙂
Hi. As long as those cameras have a HDMI output on them, then you’ll be fine. 🙏🏻🤩🎥 hope this helps
@@SamHolland yes it does and thanks for your valuable response 👍
My pleasure! 🤩🙏🏻 thank YOU for your question and for watching! 🎥
@@SamHolland hi ... 👋 thank you, I bought shinobi 5" sadly there are no connecting cables or mount included however they added power adapter for not much use 🙂, I am happy with quality overall, it works fine but I don't have access to my camera screen and 'Q'uick option 🤏. Thanks again 🤝
Wonga who says that ....... You do .... you have nearly saved me some but not sure if the Ninja would improve the footage from My soon to have Canon R3 aslo does it do anything for the R6 I know you can output 10bit on the R .... PS the R3 does 6K 12 bit internal .... cheers H
Ooooo mate! That might throw another spanner in the works… if you want the slow motion and extra Ks, might be worth looking at the Ninja V + (PLUS)! 🤩🤩🤩 maybe I shouldn’t have said that! 😂
I use the Ninja V with the R6 when I want to record prores. Just smoothens my workflow a little rather than creating proxies. But again, massive file sizes. So now I use the Shinobi with the R6 for client work and the Ninja V with the R for 10bit.
Oh pooh what does the plus do to the R3 then ? Also can you use Pro Res on a PC ?
@@HiethGeorge any solution? Im r3 shooter researching monitor/recorder.
@@HilleCine Hi yeah I got 2 Ninjas a few weeks ago after contacting Atomos they work great 👍🏻
@@HiethGeorge Thanks so if I understand correctly there is no Raw output on the R3 to ninja v so maximum would be 60fps 10bit? Thanks for your response
Well i think recording on ninja is main reason to choose it
I’m sooo glad you did this review, Sam! I just ordered the Ninja V yesterday, but thanks to your review, I realise now the Shinobi is a better choice for me, so have changed my order. Thanks, mate. 👍🇦🇺🦘
That’s amazing. So pleased you managed to save some wonga!!! And get what you need 🤩🙏🏻🎥
@@SamHolland You're a good bloke, Sam.
🤩🙏🏻🎥
I have an A7s 3 with the Ninja V, and I have tried everything, I use exactly this configuration of yours, and yet the file of the camera cards in S-log 3 come out with more dynamic range, more washed, less contrasted and saturated than the files recorded on the SSD inside the Ninja, could someone help me???!
I’ve also noticed a slight difference in the image when recording with the Ninja V also 🤔
Any tips on getting the best input to the Shinobi? I bought one second hand and got a couple HDMIs with it, but I can only monitor while actually recording to my Sony A7iii if I'm shooting in 1080. Obviously, I would like to be able to use the monitor for the majority of my shooting in 4K 24p, but when I hit record, the shinobi's screen goes black, and I feel like this must be because of the HDMI? I've messed around with the settings and haven't been able to solve this...
Oooo that’s strange. It could be a Sony thing? I haven’t run into that problem with the canons or Lumix. Anybody know?… thanks for watching. Let us know if you sort it 🤞🏻🤞🏻🎥🤩
Ethan, did you ever figure this out? I have an A7III as well and am considering both of these but I want to be able to shoot in 4k as well.
@@bluenightsky Yes so I can monitor while in 4K as long as I've turned off proxy recording in my camera settings.
If I pick up something like a Sony FX3 or FX6, would I still be able to shoot at 4k 60fps or 120 fps and view it through an Atomos Shinobi? Or is it that the Shinobi cannot display 4k at 60fps, 120fps, Im confused about all this, would you mind helping me? Thanks in advance!!
Hi. You’ll be able to use these as a monitor while recording but you can’t record those frame rates to the Ninja V. So you’ll just have to record to your camera card… There is however, the new Ninja V + that does support higher frame rates. Hope this helps 🤩🙏🏻 thanks for watching 🎥
@@SamHolland Appriciate you so much
I appreciate YOU! 🙏🏻🎥
So just to be clear the Ninja V is the only one that can record through the camera because I have two sony cameras that have the 030 minute limit to record.
Just got the Nimja V+ ; why is nobody talking about the huge fan noise.
In the plus?? That’s a shame
is there a difference in fan noise? i don't understand how ppl are using the ninja V and a mic next to it
Yeh there’s a massive difference but if you have the mic in the right position, it shouldn’t pick up the sound of the fan 👌🏻 I have plenty of audio and mic placement videos on my channel that should help if you need 🎥🙏🏻
@@SamHolland i must be blind .. coudln't find a comparison video between the ninja v and shinobi fan noise and also not on how and where to mount the microphone when using the ninja v .. can you send me the links? thanks in advance!
Hey. Here’s an audio video. It’s an old one but hope it helps 😂🙏🏻🎥 ruclips.net/video/GOcmq-swnmM/видео.html
@@SamHolland this one i watched, but it doesn't say where to mount the mic on a cage next to the external screen, which is what i wanted to know :) thanks though
Ohhhhhhh I’m with you. Sorry I didn’t know you meant that
why would you not just use your ipad and the app, oh sorry i use a GH-5 then you can monitor it the same (just no external recordidng)
What's the message about winning a camera ???
Hi Martin sorry for this but it’s a fake spam account. Just ignore the message. Thank you and sorry 🙏🏻🎥
@@SamHolland thank you. knew there was something wrong with this... Look like i'm not the only one that received this. Thank you for your fast response.