Ferrari F50 Onboard at Suzuka
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- Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2008
- Onboard footage of the Ferrari F50 at Suzuka track.
Pay attention on how the driver shifts down by double clutching and applying the heel-toe shifting technique. Simply beautiful!
There is also something very curious in that footage: see how the driver taps on the brake pedal right before the end of some straights in order to have pedal pressure enough.
And what about the sound, uh? Astonishing!
Enjoy the foot cam!!! 
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To the people saying hes driving slow, this is a f50.... If you knew anything about the f50s then u would understand.
Look at the keyring!
QUIKIX--The reason for tapping the brake pedal with the left foot before actually braking is this: At high speeds after a long straight due to vibrations the slave pistons and pads can move away from the discs and displace brake fluid back to the reservoir. Tapping the pedal ensures the pads are back close to the discs and are ready for application when the corner approaches. Failure to do this can lead to pedal going to the floor. This driver's toe & heel technique is the correct and only way to do it--ie. releasing the clutch while blipping the throttle. Hope that answers your question. Cheers
LOL yeah, maybe if you're driving a truck with no synchro's. There is NO NEED to double clutch a downshift when hell and toe'ing. The throttle is blipped while the clutch pedal is in.
very interesting to hear about tapping the brake. I've seen it numerous times but nobody could explain why did driver do that. Thanks for explanation
Don S It might not be necessary most of the time, but there might be times where the gear wont go in that easily, and at that time you wish you had your double clutch technique mastered. Although it is not necessary it does feel good, gears go in like butter, no matter what car.
Rubbish. I've raced cars all my life from road cars to GT3 and open wheelers. If the gear won't go in your synchro's are damaged, or your clutch is stuffed, or you cannot drive. There is absolutely ZERO need to double clutch a car. Especially in racing. It is S L O W.
Exactly, don't tell me that with all the experience you've had there hasn't been the time there was a stubborn gear on downshift. You're right, it is not necessary if everything is ok. Though it does feel good and it doesn't matter if it is a bit slower since you're braking.
This is the real racing feeling for me: manual shifting, pedal footwork, breathing engine, great work has to be done, by the driver. Just great. Thank God we still have these videos! This 2:43 min are more entertainment, then FP1 and FP2 right now from the new F1 track in Las Vegas. They have lost the sprit of racing, for me.
That sound.
Nothing beats the awesome sound of an aspirated engine...
People may not realize that it started raining just as he entered the first or second corne...that's what Gan San was whining about. He basically said, "Come on, it starting to rain!!? ...I want to go full-out but I cant't now!"
Which means he managed to lap this video without rain tires, actually impressive considering said weather condition :D
Notice him priming the brakes with a few short taps, good stuff!
driver is motoharu kurosawa, dude is very fast and dirty when it comes to racing and a legend in his own time. he's obviously not pushing the car to the limits since the car was most likely borrowed (not to mention costs half a mil). search for his nurburgring tests - he has set records for the NSX, GT-R and the impreza STI.
1:55 great full throttle pull
amazing footwork... made me realize what I have been doing wrong all these years...of course i learned on my own...
gan san with the smooth driving a always
So cool, you can see nicely the G-Forces at the keys for the F50 near to the steering wheel ;)
On a non-syncromesh transmission its done between gears to slow the shafts to allow the gears to mesh properly. You would push in the cluth, take the trans out of gear, let the clutch back out, the press the clutch back in, and shift into the next gear. Hence the name double clutching since you're doing a double clutch action for each shift.
It doesn't matter that a transmission has synchros or not. On any car, the gear changes are a lot smoother when you double declutch. Heel-and-toe rev matching will prevent that you lock the wheels, but you'll still wear out the transmission. And on these Ferrari grids, with the proper timing of the double declutch, the gears are like "aspirated" in place, it's a weird thing but you just feel the gear lever go where it's supposed to and the downshift is really smooth, you want this with a F50
Amazing machine!
@bryan2JZGTE Basically large cornering forces can sometimes make the brake pads get pushed in a bit, like when you change brake pads and push the pistons back in before putting in a new set of pads. It takes the first bit of travel to re-seat the pads. Well if you're running on a track at high speeds, you want that first bit of travel to slow the car, not to re-seat the pads. A light tapping of the brakes makes sure the pads have been re-seated. Hope that helps. =)
his throttle control is amazing
He's not double clutching, just doing a heel-toe rev match. There is one corner where he shifts down two gears and it *looks* like a double clutch but it really isn't.
Double clutching is where you release the clutch with the transmission in neutral and then engage it again before selecting the next gear. It's necessary when down-shifting a transmission with no sychro's and help minimize synchro wear on those that have them.
How they made it slower that F40 is beyond me. It was not supposed to be a luxury sedan but an all sport car - chassis, weight, suspension, everything.
My bad if I sounded a bit rude, the thing about shifting with matching revs is just to remain the car stable. I'm sure you can shift as in a Opel Calibra, but the faster you do this, the easier it will lock the wheels up. In the worst case your car will lose control over the back side and get in a spin. It's basically the same thing as shifting up and releasing the clutch too quickly and hear your tire squeel when you change gear from 1 to 2.
The last true driver's supercar. Steering wheel, accelerator, brake, clutch, gear lever and driver. Nothing else.
The Porsche Carrera GT is the last proper analogue supercar.
@@aviationlba747 not nearly as much raw as the F50. Carrera GT has radio, a/c etc. I’d say the last true driver’s supercar is the Enzo. Also, the F50 had a f1 derived engine, simply brilliant…
@@ex3221 Yes I see what you mean, but the Carrera GT really was the end of the analogue supercar era in my opinion, as nothing like it was ever built again. Both the F50 and the Carrera GT are two of the greatest cars ever made, but the F50 is probably my favourite.
@@aviationlba747 of course the Carrera GT was the end of an era. No more manual supercars and few aspirated engined supercars. The F50 though is just unreachable for me, the F1 derived V12 is glorious.
@@ex3221 Agreed! I actually prefer it over the F40. I not only prefer the N/A V12 over the turbocharged V8, but also the styling and the gearbox.
Gan San is THE Man
The reason why it squeels, is because the engine revs in that gear are faster than the actual wheel speed, causing the wheels regain speed too quickly. The other way around, downshifting, will mean the wheels will get blocked because the wheel speed decreases too quickly. When match the revs, the wheels will match your engine's speed and remain stable. This counts for a racing gearbox, but also for a street car gearbox when you drive it quickly. In everyday situations its just as easy as an Opel
inquadratura sui pedali: un classico in Giappone! :D
Le V12 Ferrari 😍
@sddriver Ahh. NOW i understand. Thx mate :)
What's the point of pressing the gas while downshifting?
GT Sport nailed this soo good.
this is not a time trial hence he didnt go all out,just testing the car probably.he is a legend though.
why do they always tap the brakes during straightaways? this has bugged me for quite sometime. anyone? :)
@majayna86 That's for warm up a bit the breaks that 130R corner it's fucking hard even on videogames xD
Driver is Motoharu Kurosawa.
No aggressive No attack , but this time can be !
No. He taps the brake pedal to "reset" the brake calipers. Not to warm up the brakes. Brake calipers can get knock off aligment from any lateral movements in the car.
Yeah, in fact yuyueyuyue is right about him double clutching earlier, it's just hard to see and he doesn't blip the throttle while in neutral. My bad.
@bryan2JZGTE To ensure that no brake pad knock-back has occurred.
Who cares if he is driving slow? He is not racing anyone, just showing you his footwork and how to drive a car nicely. :)
Seems like the audio is not synced properly. Sad
Proper double-clutching on downshifts, not only rev-matching.
not just that but hitting the brakes at the same time heel toe this man can drive.
actually it is.. If you watch the gear lever, after the first minute he does a double-clutch down shift.. and again at around 1:40. It it completely useless in this car, but so are these videos from japan...
My question is : why does he touch the break pedal sometimes with his left foot, very lightly? I can see it's not to slow down the car, so what is the purpose?
quikix to make sure he has enough brake pressure built up at the end of a log straightaway
Achei o piloto terraço. .Com medo principalmente na entrada das curvas acionava demais os freios e estrangulada a aceleração na manobra puntataco...medroso..E com cara de principiante sem pratica
Have you driven one? They are big and heavy. If he drove any harder, he was likely to experience major oversteer. They must be driven smooth, and it looks slow but it's not.
1230kg, 350kg less than a laferrari
why double-clutch when heel-toing down one gear? not as fast it would seem... I mean, I'm not a professional, but it seems that it would be easier on the transmission, and simpler/faster to shift in sequential order...
why is the driver quickly stepping the brake pedals at 0:12?
basically after long straights the pads might vibrate and move far away from the disc, so when you suddenly press the brakes after the straight you literally press all the way and don't get enough braking power because the pads are not pressing the disc hard enough. By slightly pumping the brake pedal a couple of times he ensured the pads are in the right position and the car brakes correctly. Of course you don't have to do this on a normal car, he was just being eeeeeextra careful. Also he was doing double clutch downshifts which wasn't necessary at all. I guess they couldn't afford any damage on the car, so they drove it as fast as possible as safe as possible
And with shifting from 5 to 3 I mean as fast as possible
noice
ah, i was wondering why he was tapping on the brakes with his left foot on the straights
He didn't use the left feet..LOL! Wonderful car however..thx to post it.Sbav...
130r ftw. never say die
He is defo double-clutching
and some left foot braking tech. very difficult
F40 drives like an ancient car compared to this.
This car should have 2:10 ability.
This is not an F1, plus ALL drivers make corrections all the time, otherwise, they aren´t pushing to the limit. See Senna's driving during the late 80's and early 90's in this same track with an F1 and also his NSX testdrive.
Can’t believe the Civic Type R just beat this time
Track is a bit different though. Notice how last chicane is tighter here.
Well, im 30 jears old and life in Hockenheim.....
So yes 1 or 2 times i drive my Car on the Limit in my Life ; )
Thats heel toe shifting your seeing
I know I'm going to regret responding but you're wrong. He just dropped down two gears at the end of the straight. He's not double clutching.
he clutched 4 times in that two gears.
I wouldnt say useless... granted that my car is no ferrari...but my car has syncros and it still bounces around when I downshift... unless I double clutch... and it is double clutching... i mean he clearly is hitting the clutch twice on downshifts...
@sddriver Ahh. Explaination in newbie language? :)
@levlevi to create downforce before he gets any faster
they aren't fully pushing it. Every driver has a safety margin that they follow.
i drive this car only takes 2min and 5 secs to do a lap!
very good technique but by the way he's quite slow, but i believe he's not pushing
@nattapol2522 it's not double clutching you n00b, no it's not a sequential dog engagement gearbox... only motorcycles and race cars have those. This is just a h shifter.
Senseless? Have you ever driven a car and downshifted on a highway to give some hard acceleration for example? Try shifting from 5 to 3 without any rev matching and I ensure you that you will hit a wall for locking your wheels up, especially when you have a RWD car. The point of rev matching and heel and toe is to take out the speed difference when you change down (low revving engine, fast spinning wheels). Press the gas and your engine will match the wheelspeed. Even in a street car.
Its sensless to press the Gas while shifting, because this is an normal Street Car with syncronised Gear Rizzles.
In Racecars with Sequentiel, Strait Gear Rizzles you must give a little bit Gas while shifting, so the Gear Rizzles change soft.
But in such Street Cars like in this Video its absolute sensless.
No its not, its preventing the rear wheels from locking up during rapid downshifting and thus keeping the car in balance.
He drives quite slow!! U_U
Like youre any better
not so hard to do that with youre feet you have to do it with a propulsion!
But they seem to suck at Formula 1, MotoGP and WRC?
not pushing hard at all, lots of time to be had.
He is so nasty!
In my opinion he drives like any experienced driver but I will not classify him as a racer. Maybe he can't afford to wreck the car like those WRC and F1 guys.
WHY the Hell always wright some 20 jear old Guys from USA to me???
Probatly you never drive Manuall Shift because in USA all Cars are Automitic.
If someone who ever drive an Car on the Limit wanne wright to me your welcome.
But 17-24 jear old Kids (Specialy from USA) DONT WRIGHT TO ME!
who the fuck are you? lol learn english bud
too slow shfting and downshifting
Look, i dont want to start Trouble with someone.
But this is No DTM or GT1 Car...
The Gearbox and Shift System in thsi Car is the same like in every VW and Honda.
And you can change the Gears in this Car like in every VW or Honda....
My personal Opinion is, that He do this because he know there is an Foot Cam, and he wants to make Mc Coolio.
If such an Shiftig must be with this Gearbox System, that means from Tomorow i must shift the same way with my Opel Calibra.
this is bad driving. he's jerks the wheel left-right-left-right going around a corner, plus taps on the gas constantly around a corner.
Compare this to Schumacher or other top F1 drivers, not they only push the car to the absolute limit, but they drive smoothly. They don't adjust gas pedal or steering around a corner. All done in one single smooth action.
why is is adding throttle when he is downshifting?
On older cars there sometimes was the problem that the gear wont go in right. (understand what i mean?dont no how to say this different in English) To avoid that he adds gas in neutral in oder to make the gears spin at the same speed. With this you wont have problems changing gears. Dont know whether I explaines it right, but the reason will possibly be smth. like that
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after that question, my dad told me that back in time, he had a truck (old truck), which had straight gear. Straight gear has no synchron rings, so in every downshift he had to use double clutch with adding a little gas before shifting. Straight transmission can bear much more suffer than the others, and i think that's why sport cars uses it (in real racing, like DTM,WTCC...), and trucks used it.
This is what you meant to be? I don't know if my theory is correct.
Yeah. thats what I meant. I just couldnt remember the word syncro ring :D
He is rev matching.
To prevent REAR (driving) wheels locking or unsettling the car, but otherwise correct.