UPDATE - Are My $900 Zoanthids Worth $3,000 Now?
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- My $900 zoanthids sprouted more polyps….so does that mean that they’re worth $3,000 now? No doubt, the Little Shop of Horror zoanthid is an expensive polyp and deservedly so! These might be some of the most strikingly beautiful polyps in the hobby. Deep purple, orange, yellow, teal and an alternating skirt - C’MON! These are some dang GEMS.
Are they worth $3,000? Probably not. $900? Maybe….The truth is that’s it’s always so difficult to gauge price on coral. It all depends on when you catch that hype train! It would be hard to let this frag go. We’ve been through so much together, awwww.
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If you look at them the wrong way, they melt 🤣🤣🤣
Stratoshere's are definitely like that!! Flaming mohican's have always been like that for me. Thanks for the watch!
I currently don't have any or a reef for that matter but watching your videos has really made me want to get into the hobby.
I love how honest you are as a person. It also makes the hobby fun
Thanks! Just want to be as transparent as possible!
Bahama Llama Coral I wish more people would be. Mad respect.
"Because they don't want to die either." That is a SOLID way to look at it. Your Zoa's are beautiful. Keep up the good work. Much love
Thank you for the watch! Yep, we're in this together with our little coral animals!
you bring so much personality in these vids that sometimes I forget Im watching a reef related vid. Not a bad thing at all
That's a great compliment!! Thank you! Truly appreciate the watch. 😃
Totally agree. That’s what I love for sure
Started a quarantine tank that turned into a 2nd when my main display cracked, since then I started another quarantine tank so now have 3 nanos going. Trying to slowly build and grow my coral army while I put together all the pieces for my main display. Thought getting good zoa's would help me fuel the hobby, because they seem easy to frag and can grow afew heads as time goes on. Noticed in the last 2 weeks most zoas in the 2 tanks that have alot have been closed alot more then open. Good about doing small water changes often to export nutrients, but kinda stumped on why they were doing great for afew months and now aren't. Gonna take this time at home to practice testing, try and crack this before not acting results in them melting. Binged afew of your videos(as you'll notice from your comment sections), subscribed and looking forward to checking out some of your other stuff when I can
I've found most zoas are sensitive to phosphates. I'd check those. My biggest battle lately has been keeping nitrates around 5ppm and phosphates below .05. That's when my tanks seem most happy.
Great upload! I enjoyed.
I have many zoas, some cost more than others but imo, cost is irrelevant. They are all priceless, as I enjoy them in my reef.
That’s a great attitude to have! That’s how I feel about these, so beautiful!
I am investing in high end zoas now to make some cash to support this crazy hobby and its carry to know that in a few years the thousands of dollars I have spent could be worth a few hundred! I started in dec 2019 and utter chaos was already cheap! I heard sunny d's and nirvanas were crazy expensive. Nirvanas are the cheapest zoa there is right now! I bought about 12 from my tlfs for 9.99!
Oh yes! The best way...if you're "investing" is to find good deals on the slow growers. GMK's, Speckled Kraks, Flaming Mohicans, Little Shop of Horrors....Nirvanas grow TOO FAST.
My most expensive zoa is a rasta. Was 1 head, cost 60$... 3 years ago. Now its 1000+ heads and covers a half basketball sized rock. Love it
How many heads did you have after 12 months?
Are the heads smaller?
Well we do have to name corals for the hobby to distinctly seperate unamed species. If its popular just wait ten years or try to search for similar species.
I just started my zoa rock garden in the death cube. Thanks for uploading, very entertaining lol
Heck yes! Can't wait to follow along! Which zoas did you start with?
Bahama Llama Coral I picked up some called watermelons 🤷🏻♂️
i only just discovered you and im already addicted 😂😂😂
$900 for a polyp? I’m a newbie but that’s crazy
Stratosphere's can go for $1500pp - Grand Master Krakatoa's have come down to $600pp. Little shops aren't $900pp...that'd be for 8-12p. Welcome to the hobby! It's almost as addictive as gambling... 😉
polyp industry
OSA, does not have coral on their website. Maybe they stopped selling them on the website, but now it's just tanks. And yes, I know this is an old video. I am just starting out my coral journey.
Yes, old video. They were going to add a whole section but I'm guessing it's a bit too complex to deal with at the moment. Welcome to the addiction!
I don't have anything crazy, but my most expensive is a few Sonic flare and a few Emerald on Fire.
Most expensive zoa I own is the RTS Toucan Sam. Pretty sweet little zoa. Hoping to get a Nirvana or a white zombie too!!
I've got plenty of Nirvana for ya! Come get it. You can have as many frags as you want. lol! Thanks for watching!
Bahama Llama Coral hahah I might take you up on that! Got a long drive ahead of me.. maybe we can make a trip out of it..
Love your videos. I’m a newbie but I’ve enjoyed reefing so much, so far. I’m planning a zoa garden. Fingers crossed all goes well! 😁
Thank you Kim!! I appreciate the support!
Bahama Llama Coral So....how does someone get a frag of your weeping willow? I saw that Marine Farmers has a Green Polyp Toadstool, but it just doesn’t look as sweet as your weeping willow. 🙄🤔🙄🤔😜😊
@@kimvoncannon3595 If you were local to STL that would make it a bit easier. Shipping can get tricky.
Bahama Llama Coral - I wish I was closer too. I’ll just keep watching Marine Farmer’s website to see when it’s back in stock with them. 😊
My Fruit Loops are my favorite but I did snag some cheap purple monsters last week. I love zoas
Can't be the OG Purple Monsters. They look amazing when they colonize!
I got 7polp for $27 of purple monster.
Utter chaos was 80 bucks a head in 2016 at the LFS
Right!? Everything comes down...for the most part. I still love UC's though.
Bob Marley’s, they are not expensive but boy are they beautiful. 🥰🥰👈
Good video Rem 👍😎
Yep! Love those too. Thanks for watching Brian!
My most expensive aka is this cool red and green one I paid a local community member on Facebook 25$ for. :)
Those finds are the best!!
love ur vids man, keep em coming!
Thanks Tony!
I just got a single polyp of stratosphere they sell for 250$ CDN each normally but I hit an unadvertised flash sale from my favourite online store they were 100$ PP having had very limited experience with zoas and not knowing what I was getting myself into until hit “add to cart” I ordered it along with a couple other verities as 2 years ago my tank burst and since then it’s been a struggle ow that the replacement tank is a year old and the freebies of montipora they sent me in the past wasn’t just alive but growing as fast as they warn you about I jumped on it not gonna lie a week ago it shrivelled up after my last order came in and I had to move stuff around leading to an unfortunate incident where the stratosphere plug popped out of its place amd flew threw the water hit the front glass landing face down in my sand bed, the next day fully opened a hermit crab looking for scraps started bumping into it leading to it getting the “zoa umbrella syndrome” look however I I had no choice but to move it being a single polyp on the plug that I had mounted sideways it was starting to detach long story short it was really pissed off but I left it alone did a 35% water change & had iodine + other things on hand to use to dip if needed were Saturday night I went to bed it was starting to look like it might be doing better I got up Sunday morning and it was 85% open by noon it was fully open as if nothing ever happened were mid afternoon Tuesday and it’s actually showing obvious growth….. I hear you about the whole nail biting “it’s gonna melt” experience and 100$ is the most I’ve ever spent on a single coral with the exception of my rainbow “open brain” tracheaphillia having cost me double that however when you actually think about size vs. Cost I paid Pennie’s to the dollar per gram for most things $ although I have many high end Montipora, Favia, & Chalice frags + my lobo & trachea they have all been bought for 1/2 or less on flash sales or were absolutely huge this was the most expensive coral size / dollar I’ve ever bought and the most valuable coral when you consider the regular price that aside I will say that it appears to be much more resistant than expected I got it after cooing over the stock pix online having fallen in love with its look deciding that if it ever came on sale for a good price I’d jump on it not knowing what I was getting being an “LPS guy” who was looking at zoas my only regret is not having gotten a “2 polyp” example as they sell 250$ for one 500$ for 2 & the sale price was the same 100$ for one 200$ for two I shoulda went for it but live and learn it was 1/3rd grown about the same size as a full grown pinwheel Zoa it’s substantially larger than what it was and seems like it’s gonna sprout out a baby soon ….. that’s my experience/story thus far with some luck and prayers this experiment with Zoa keeping will work out for me any suggestions for keeping it outside of just letting nature take care of it would be great
Fruit loop zoas were my most expensive. About 10 years ago they went for $75 for three polyps.
It's like trading cards, "book value" is $200, best offer you can find is $10
The WORST part of these higher end zoas...is watching them and ONLY them melt away to nothingness. OR have a "trusted" pygmy angelfish develop a taste for the most expensive zoa you just brought home from a swap. Thats life right?
Haha, you're funny dude. Freakin love Zoas. Most expensive Zoa... Probably Exosphers or Seductions or AOI 🤔 or Bowsers... Too many to price in mind. My Krak floated away 😢
Think I got 3 for $120 a while ago?
Good price!
I just finish watching the video funny one love it thanks for sharing
Lol!! I have fun with these for sure!
never take its not for sale as fact. Everything is for sale. I would sell my grandmother for the right price.....
so. i had an entire colony of emerald on fire melt to completely flat on the plug. they were literally just stains on the plug. i left the plug in my system. 2 months later they all grew back and have spread everywhere. so dont count zoas out,. i was shocked when they started to re grow.
For sure! I'd say that for most corals. It's amazing how they will grow back from tiny specs of flesh. I love that strain of zoa too. SO BRIGHT.
Truly entertaining video dude!!! And I just got 3 polyps of the LSOH zoas Friday for...$30 shhh don't tell anyone lol
Oh snap!! Great deal man! Although you are Billy Pipes so you probably got that BP special, lol. Thanks for watching!
Sounds like ebay win lol
I wouldn't have the balls to drop that much money on a frag. I saltute you man
I dropped $50 on this frag. It was a raffle win. Trust me, I'd search high and low before paying over $300 for a frag of ANYTHING.
@@BahamaLlamaCoral Oh wow, that's an awesome win.
I broke my arm and had to sell my tank to gateway aquatics. I had a lot of stuff from WWC. If you get time to stop by there and maybe get some of my old corals.
Just recently?! You ok? I might have to go swing by. Feel better!
Bahama Llama Coral yeah I broke my arm pretty bad and had to have surgery my left arm is pretty much useless for three months or more. I decided to sell my tank while it was still thriving instead of waiting until everything wasn’t doing good , due to not being able to take care of it plus having new medical bills.
I sold it to Gateway on the 27th of Dec, but surely he still has a lot of it. I’m hoping to get a new tank going December 2020
Can u let me know when u have a frag of that again would love to have one
Mine are Utter Chaos, but they grow so slooooow >.
I don’t think I would ever sell a coral anywhere near to what online and my LFS would.
Looks good Zach. Just now realized this was your channel. LSOH are doing well but haven't yet taken off. *fingers crossed*
Thanks dude! Was gonna add some pics of your frag now but never got them pics! I kid, I kid. Hope all is well dude! Thanks for the watch!
Beautiful collection, keep it up man, good luck. "Thanks" to you I am looking online where I can find "Hallucination" zoas, my wife doesnt like you already :)
LOL! They are a nice looking polyp, that's for sure!!
A browned out WWC superstar. Wonder where I got that from.
Are you blaming me for it being brown?! lol
So far my most expensive is my Chucky's Bride - $30, but one day I will have cash to DROWN!!!
YES!!
Lol So now will it every come full circle is my question?
Better be a raffle in the future 😂
LOL!!! I don't ever see myself doing a raffle in the future. Giveaways, yes but probably not a raffle. Thanks for the watch Russell!
Awesome content as always .the little shop of horrors is amazing . My most expensive zoa I have is probably my nightmare zoa. I won on Instagram lol
Thanks Joe!! Nightmares are NICE!!
I really like your channel btw. Keep it up
Thank you!!
Nice video as always!! Do you feed them anything? or add amino?
So far in this tank I do reef roids from polyp lab and oyster feast from reef nutrition a couple times a week!
Love some zoas! ♥️👊🐠
Me too!! Slight obsession...
You know anything about sunrise sakuras and how much those could be worth ?? Haven’t seen them in any of my lfs
I think they are relatively inexpensive - maybe 10-20pp?
Bahama Llama Coral thank you I appreciate the response ! Your channel was on my recommended and I clicked on it and it’s honestly all I watch haha keep up the amazing vids !
Awesome Zoa´s wish they where some of them avaible for a reasonable price in the Netherlands ;)
Are there any local fish stores in the Netherlands you can buy from?!
@@BahamaLlamaCoral Thanks for your reply! Local fish stores just got the simple ones. And if they do have a special one they ask ridicilous prices
@@mitchvandam3688 That's no good! Sometimes I take for granted how spoiled we are.
@@BahamaLlamaCoral Indeed keep up the good work i definitly will watch your vids ;)
I subscribed!
I just scored some Snitches zoa's in an auction for $41 when they go for $150 a polyp.
Those are a cool zoa. Get them from zoanthids.com?
@@BahamaLlamaCoral POTO (Pieces of the Ocean), they got their frag from Cornbred Corals. I had a pretty big colony of them until I moved. Put them in the tub with my anemones, and the anemones decided it was their time to punch out and nuked everything I had in that tub with them.
Man...to end up with a reef tank in your kitchen, either you have your living rooms packed with a tank or your Mrs is powerful..I'm talking Uber level
That's the basement :)
Just bought some gmk zoe ❤
Now I'm looking to get the little ship of horror lol
Beautiful
Thanks!
Dude was trying to sell $1800 a polyp at a reefstock in Denver and was insulted when offered less. He was $1300 more expensive than any other zoanthids in the entire con. I don't remember what strain it was
Sounds like a Grand Master Krak or Stratosphere. GMK's have come down in price a ton at this point. Strats have always been pretty expensive.
where does everyone mount their zoanthids high or low light and flow?
Personally I like low to medium depth and medium flow. Some can handle higher light better and actually respond really well color-wise.
Bahama Llama Coral thanks a lot for the quick response love your vids hope my tank can one day look as good as yours 👍🏻
Do you sell and ship corals?
I feel like zoas devalue so fast like GMK they were 1k now I see them for 300-500 pp
Yep! Like I said in the video, prices change all the time! I might actually be able to afford a GMK soon 😂
GMK used to be like 120 a polyp before they got inflated
@@onesforgotten For sure. I'm trying to decipher the zoa pricing code. It's almost like if you "re-introduce" a zoa at an astronomical price, people tend to think it's more rare. It's been growing great for me. Usually the higher priced polyps don't grow fast or have a reputation of melting.
@@BahamaLlamaCoral if you ever get around to fragging your little shop of horrors, I'll buy a frag
@@onesforgotten $400pp 😆
Do you have pulsing Xenia you would sell me?, by the way I could never pay over 40$ for one polyp and that’s insane to me already
I actually don't own any xenia at all.
@@BahamaLlamaCoral dang I don’t know why I want it so bad but I can’t find it anywhere in stock, do you have a website or anything?
Fruit loops, pink zippers, mind blowers, passion palys, orange sherbet, nuclear green dragon eyes, Arctic palys, armor of god, blue hornets, candy apples, nuclear green paly, amongst others. Have many, the names just help you identify and compare. All thriving, growing out many on frag plugs and rocks in
groups. Selling one or two polyps for anything more than $5/polyp seems somewhat unethical.
I totally get that. That's exactly why I like the names too. There's been a lot of "new releases" (which I don't really know how you get to "release" a wild animal into the hobby but whatever...lol) that muddy the name game. I do like knowing that when someone says Fruit Loops I know exactly what they're talking about.
WWC has them for 250 pp right now
They've come down quite a bit since this video was made. You can get them even cheaper at swaps. I'd say they are about $100-120pp - WWC is always gonna be more expensive.
@@BahamaLlamaCoral thanks for the info
AOIs I paid $10 for 4 polyps
Good deal!
I Love your videos man
Thank you! That means a lot!
Do u sell any zoa frags?
My most expensive zoas that’ll purchase was the blue hornet. It was $100 for 3 heads.
I love ALL the hornets! Such a cool polyp.
When you going to have some available
Now that they are in the lagoon I'm not sure If I will cut them or not...I love how they look as a little colony. I'll probably do a video on it if I do.
how are ya man you close to st louis mo
Where you at?!
@@BahamaLlamaCoral I'm by st louis I am looking to trade some of my zoas for other zoas
I seen you have some I looking for maybe I have so you want
I have frag page.on Facebook called
Frags by tjsreptiles
Speckled krakatoa, WWC superstars or the no name zoas I will sell for $500 PP... free shipping tho 😂
$500pp qualifies for free shipping? DEAL. 😝
@@BahamaLlamaCoral I like to think I'm fair
Zoas, the biggest scam since the LED
I’ll give ya 100 bucks
Sold!
@@BahamaLlamaCoral just let me know when you ready for my Venmo 😂
K byeeeeeee lulzz 🤣🤣
I love and hate this hobby so much. People buy a frag for 500 and expect to sell each frag for the same price. Say a company buys a machine that names stickers for 10k..monthly sell each sticker for 10k? No they sell it for less. Much less until they hit even and then start flipping profit -_-. I know growth counts but come on!
I agree. I always like to sell any high end stuff to local reefers for a lot cheaper! Heck, most of the time I'll just trade out stuff instead.
@@BahamaLlamaCoral that's what I do. I give away frags to people that are just starting the hobby!
The prices for a zoanthids or palythoas polyp or small colony are absurd. Just think of the size. If you got enough of these animals together to the size and weight of a purebred miniature chihuahua you’d be a multimillionaire.
Coral prices are kind of absurd, especially when talking about frags.
I can only speak for the last 5 years or so maybe I'm just used to the outrageous pricing on some of this stuff. Although I have several friends who remember going to frag swaps because it a way to get good deals. Now it's just retail pricing (for the most part) at the larger swaps.
Stupid price really at the end of the day it's just a zoas
Learned long ago high end zoas are a waste of time and money. The name game is cringe AF...Money much better spend on high end LPS. Today, the only zoas I mess with are basic bam bams and rastas
What's your favorite high end LPS?
Space Invader Pectinia is my personal favorite....then Bubblegum Monster, Pink Boobies, Aussie Gold Torch, Gold (or true yellow) Branching Hammer...
@@creativekids33 I've been looking for a nice Pectinia. Those are so unique.
I’ll trade ya a polyp for a free promotion 🤔
Lol...wait, is this reverse psychology?
I have a a8 dollar camo zoa 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Seriously?! Love those.....
@@BahamaLlamaCoral if you want one.....
Queen Stratospheres :/ wayyy to much money
They're nice though!