The complete guide to the Boss RC5 - A video Manual/Review
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- UPDATE: Even though I say you could use other power adapters, this is MY personal opinion and in NO WAY supported by BOSS and there have been reports of these units breaking when powered incorrectly, so BOSS's position is CLEARLY to only use their supported power supply!!!
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0:00 Slideshow
1:14 Let’s make a Loop
3:34 Introduction
8:18 Rant: The Boss who cried wolf
11:17 How it works
13:34 The Drums
21:15 Global Parameters
23:38 Control Setup
27:43 Memory/Preset Parameters
29:25 Now We Loop
40:13 AUTO Trigger
45:56 External Switches
46:32 MIDI Control
49:39 MY2CENTS
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so often these kinds of reviews/tutorial videos are just ads. this is so honest and informative. it’s a blessing, thank you!!!
I have this looper since yesterday and I love it, and this video is just great: we'll made, informative and honest.
Thanks so much for the effort you put into these.
I have no words to describe how much i love your videos. Thanks for the laughs, great reviews and being you brother!
I got the Boss RC5 . Really good pedal. Since I've had it, I have been playing guitar for longer. The Samba 2 drum track is my favourite.
How to Separate Drums & Guitar.
I found a workaround to send drums to PA & guitar to amp separately. you have to preload a drum track to one of the 99 memory slots panned fully to one side. i prefer right side as it keeps my cable configuration as similar as possible to “normal use”. once you’ve loaded drums panned full right, you need a cable from the left/mono/A output to the guitar amp and a cable from the right/B out to the PA. for inputs, guitar goes into the A/mono/left input and for B/right input i used a dummy plug (a 1/4 inch trs headphone adapter. any 1/4 plug will work). If you don’t put something in input B, the pedal will treat the input as mono and you’ll get guitar in the PA as well. I didn’t try it, but you could also put vocals into input B if you wanted to loop those.
I gotta try it…thanks for posting
I'll give it a try... as I was totally put off, after finding out that the drums couldn't be sent to their own output!
Very cool !! Thanks for posting this.. this also works on other Boss stereo pedals.. DD-8 and Chorus Ensemble for sending all wet signal without any dry for example
I spent hours of time researching and contemplating between this, ditto plus and EHX720.
Well, the tap timing of EHX720, though not flawed, deviates from generic practise. So despite of separate stop controller (a big draw), I went for RC-5.
Thanks for the video and lucky to have stumbled upon it - and learn more about the pedal. Really grateful.
Before the loop is the best setting because you can jam with the drum pattern until your ready. This pedal is brilliant.
Those drum beats are DOPE! I had the RC3 and played the HECK out of that thing! Such an AWESOME unit! But I ordered a boss RC5 and now I hear the same drum patterns that once inspired me and some new ones. I’m SUPER excited to get it and I’ll make a video using it! Thanks for the awesome video Henning!
Are the drumsbeats-sound crap on 3 and 5? I'm wondering about buying a 5 or 10.
First ever comment on your stuff. Re Power Supplies: Insure that the power supply output voltage is the correct voltage, wired with the correct polarity, and is rated to provide at least as many amps as the box requires (box's min. input amperage rating). If the power supply provides voltage that is too high or too low, sparks will fly and stuff will break. If the power supply does not provide enough current, heat will build, fires can break out and badness ensues. Boss does not want to be liable or get a bad reputation (think Hoverboard battery chargers and/or Galaxy 5 fires) because some knucklehead hooked up an unsafe or incorrectly chosen power supply to save a buck. Great video!
fantastic, highly entertaining tutorial. just got my rc5 so this is very useful info.
Thank you for showing me the basics. Time to do the basics.
Dude, you are awesome. Thanks so much for the informative and fun tutorial.
Great video. Just got this pedal. Love it but one glaring problem is that you can't clear a track silently.
This thing is a dream looper in the fx loop of a Katana. It’s worth it just to get a metronome that is amplified to a level consistent with the guitar. It is an indispensable practice tool for me.
Love your outfit!!!!! and thank you very much for sharing your informed opinions on the equipment!😊
I'm gonna cry, I just wanted a simple how to video, this is the 4th video I clicked on and 90% philosophy again.
what’s missing? Don’t I explain EVERYTHING?
Perfect video! Thanks!
hey Henning, it would be great to have your guidance on using this with the ES-8. Thanks!
Hello Henning. Thanks for your consistent and candid top quality reviews and information on all guitar gear related products.
Even though this video is two years old, I hope you can answer a question for me.
I own two Eventide H90's and would like to use their looping functions. But to really get the best out of the looper i need a three button Aux switch. What would you personally prefer to use a dedicated looper pedal or save space and use the H90's?
If a dedicated looper is preferred, which would you choose the RC-5 or the RC-10R?
Thank you in advance.
Four minutes in and your are quite entertaining great work man
Thanks for your video! Is it also possible to adjust the volume of the two Inputs individually? My guitar is louder than the microfon, so that you only hear the guitar.
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Thank you Sir! Please show me, how can i adjusted up and down volume of rhythm (Drum) on RC5 pedal. I feel the sound of Drum is too loud for the guitar volume. I want down volume of Drum, while keeping the guitar volume, i hope you can help me. Thank a lot!
Hello
Thanks for the video, the midi bit is the bit I was interested in as I am using it to trigger samples.
I wonder if you can help as Boss don’t seem to be able.
I have the boss lead and the midi sync and the pc commands work well, I am using the es8 as the master. However the cc messages are not working apart from trk/ply/stop how did you get the other functions to work. I have to 2 assigns 127 and 0 but this only seems to work for this one function
Steve
Can you use a midi foot controller to play a memory with the push of ONE button (using a burst of multiple commands). So, one bottom to load the memory and begin playback. So, 3 buttons = 3 tracks ready to go at the touch of one of the 3 foot switches.
So quick and dirty- I’ve watched the video already but can you run the rc-5 thru a pa and not thru amp for the drum track? Thanks
Yes please. Almost every guitar player with pedals knows that almost everyone uses the same 9V-DC connector in center negative configuration. I'll just want a sticker confirming if it's center positive or negative, required voltage and the power consumption somewhere easy to find in the manual. I need to know if that digital delay pedal consumes 60mA or 140mA and in some cases i had to deep dive on the internet to research that, when it should be on the first page of the manual with all the other information...
Seriously I have chargers but don’t know the polarity of the pedal and it’s not in all of the paperwork that came with it. I don’t want to fry this new pedal. If you found out anything could you please let me know?
The standard of guitar pedal power being center negative was actually standardised by Boss.
Thanks guys it is indeed center negative.
Thank you for your work. Does the Boss RC5 have metal drum rythems? Thank you
This was a good idea. Many of us are so busy and this does wonders for us. Hats off to you and Boss!
I am looking for a sample player. I just want to send the device a MIDI PC to load a sample, and then when I press the pedal it plays it 1 shot. It looks like this will do it, with 99 programs and plenty of play time per program. Thanks!
Hello, I am thinking of buying it this Boss RC-5 compact pedal and I wanted to know if someone has tried to use it to record loop as a ableton midi clock slave and if it works correctly as the ininity looper or others. I read some not good opinions about the RC-5 and Ableton toguether. Thanks for your help.
@EytschPi42 Are the rhythm sounds (though there are less kits overall on RC5) identical to the RC500? I have an RC500 but was actually toying with the idea of downsizing if they have the same kit sounds. But if the samples themselves are lower quality I'll probably stick with the 500. Thanks!!
Thank you for this video! I have a question, can you change the tempo while your backing track is playing? What happens to the sound, does it warp in the same scale, or does it change its pitch? I mean, in the case that you have the RC5 as tempo slave and you change the tempo with another device. Have you tried this? Thank you again!
I think they advertise to only use their DC in so that people don't use the wrong polarity power supply, which can totally fry the pedal. They've simply written the polarity next to the dc input on their previous pedals amongst which I have some but I don't think people often understand that you can't mismatch polarities so they just cut the guess work and tell you to use theirs which is the correct way since it's an expensive pedal. Reduces the number of returns and component failures. If you know what you're doing though then yeah any power supply will work.
Probably true, but just partly a piece of the puzzle. In the old days, when Boss also used another but unregulated power transformer for analogue equipment, called ACA (Not PSA) specified to 9V, but gave a Voltage of 14-15 without load. When in use, it was more probably down to 9V, or just there above. When the digital stuff came about it was necessary to get a new stabilized version out, and that was the PSA, regulated to 9V as specified to not burn out the new circuits. Then it was indeed crucial to use the correct transformer of the two for the pedal in question. I think the PSA marking is a remnant from that time, AND a piece of marketing too.. :)
Hi, just got it and was really pissed off when I realized that you cannot "pan" anything between the A & B channels ! As you mentioned it, the drums in a guitar amp won't be cool. I finally found a way through this :
1) make the system believe you are in stereo by inserting a shorted jack in input B, and use input A for your guitar.
2) set the rhythm level quite low (20 or so), and loop level much higher
Now you have the drums only on output A, be it somehow attenuated, that you can reap in a PA or whatever,
and guitar on output B, be it with some not too loud rhythm , for your super crunchy and colored guitar amp !
Not ideal but much better ; until BOSS makes a new firmware with output panoramic setting for the different channels.
Hope it may help ....
My opinion is it’s not very user friendly, fairly complex but, still useful if you want to spend the time to try to figure it out. I do agree though, you did a good job explaining the functions.
The Ditto+ has far fewer features, but seems much easier to use than the Boss loopers. Can’t decide if I want those extra features for the added complexity or not.
True. I bought a Boss Loop Station RC-2 used for $99. It has a lot compaired to the ditto. I like the drums on it but the ditto is easier to use. I just need to practice more.
Thanks for your videos. They’re very useful and well explained, and of course, so funny. Any way , I’m in a mess with looper pedals. I don’t know witch is the best option, BOSS rc5 or TRIO BAND PLUS? Which one is better for you? Thank you very much in advance!
I would prefer the Trio
Thank you for fast replay! It is very useful for me!
Henning, I'll wrestle ya for that Mc. Mull!!! It sounds devine! :)
Anyone know if it's possible on the rc5 to overdub longer trek on top of the first loop i have recorded ?
Hi there! Is there also an in-depth review/tutorial by you about the RC-50?
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Video is coming!
Is it possible somehow to keep the rhythm (drums playing ) after stopping the loop?
A lot of people want to pack a lot on there pedal board for portability so the footprint of the pedals are smaller. Therefore multi functioning knobs and buttons. Good Idea but you have to remember a lot to use them. Not as user friendly but powerful for the size.
I like how Gordo showed up in your video!
For the drums... if you use output A for drums, but loop the guitar with input/output B, would that work?
Thinking of upgrading from my RC1
Good video dude. Thank you
Thank you for your Great video and information.i want to ask you about the drums..when i take out the midi file to my computer i don't take the drums..! with the guitars...can you help?
Thank you
Moin Henning, First of all, thanks for this video. Do you have any advice for me? I have tried for hours now to make the RC5 Running with Midi, with my Morningstar MC8. I put play/stop on CC 81, have sent value 127 first and then 0 as you did.
Nothing happens.
Also, the other functions do not work. I have already changed the cable, but no success.
It's a really cool upgrade for the RC3 but be careful if you want to MIDI sync it to a drum machine or any device that sends MIDI clock. Unlike the RC500, currently, you can't turn tempo sync (TEMPO.S) off which means your loops will playback with fluctuations whenever the SYNC CLOCK option is set to MIDI.
I was wondering about that. Good to know. Already bought it but I may upgrade to the 500 for the two tracks and mic input.
@@bhager9364 Really hoping boss fixes it in a future firmware update, I sent them a support enquiry so fingers crossed. I got 2 RC5s so I could mix and match the two tracks more freely instead of having them both tied to the same memory bank like on the 500. If they don't fix it guess I'll have to cough up for a 2nd 500 😭😅
I got a reply from Roland/Boss saying they'd pass my message on to the dev team so there's some hope after all haha
@@ThorForShort Nice! Maybe it will get a software update.
Great video! I love this pedal so far! Question: I'm trying to play two different sounds in one of my songs - one from MEMORY 01 and one from MEMORY 02. The problem is I can't bend down and turn the dial in the middle of the song. Is this possible using an external pedal?
use midi
Yes you can! You can choose to increase and decrease memory loop numbers while playing with external Footswitch without using midi. Works a flaw, but occupies both channels for ext pedal inputs, or if you so choose, just progressive memory step ups (for which you can limit the number of, and then free up one foot pedal). If you need anything else to control if this is what you'll need the most, then midi is the way to go.
Does the RC-5 quantize the loop to tap-tempo?
I really need quantization for live performances.
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Can it display tempo readouts, e.g. From the Digitech SDRUM?
I have the rc2. And often use it with muted guitar strings to set a drum tempo for live performance.
Can this be done on rc5?
How?
Thanks for the video! How can I get the full manual for the RC5? All obvious Internet roads lead only to the single page of very basic instructions.
So loops are just good for A parts? what about a B part? seems useful for practicing but any attempt to compose a song would meet its limitations almost immediately.
I had one of the older Boss loopers, and it allowed reversing, removing vocals as well as changing the tempo afterwards. It was incredibly useful for learning songs, even though it also changed the pitch slightly (and could be used as a live karaoke machine). This is I think 16 bit, though, so the sound quality was horrible. It's a fun device, though.
Hi, i have an issue here,
When i stop the loop with a double tap, then i clear the track holding the pedal down. At this moment, the loop plays for sec and then only gets cleared.
I suppose it should not sound or start the loop at the proccess of clearing the track, is this the pedal fault or is it just me?
Is there a fix to this please because this is very annoying.
Is there a way to set this pedal to play a track and after a determined number fo loops switch to another track?
Say for example that I'm playing "track 1", which is the beginning of a song, and I need the pedal to play that loop four times. After that fourth time, can I set the pedal to switch to "track 2" without me manually turning the knob? If I can't do that with the pedal itself, is there an external foot switch that could help me do that?
I just got a used one. First looper - still learning. I found the volume was really high in comparison to the instrument on play - I am using it to train and record ideas. Does anyone know if I can lower the volume of the looper in contrast to the guitar so I can solo on top louder?
The top right knob you can press it and turn the loop volume down.
HOW DO U SAVE A MEMORY ON THIS THING
I've been watching your recent series of rants on reviews. I appreciate them, and now going back to this video I am glad I listened to your review before I purchased the RC-5. I do have a question for you. where on a pedal board would you prefer to place the RC-5? I am assuming at the end of the chain. However, I have been wrong so many times int eh past. Thanks, Love your rants, they are enlightening Cheers
yes, end of the chain!
Thanks! Cheers to one of my favorite tubers.
Can you use two Guitars at the same time in the A & B inputs? Or an Acoustic Guitar and... let's say a Mandolin or a Charango, which can stay plugged in all the time?
Although you can't add memory specific changes globally, you can copy a memory and save it wherever you like.
Can one play a loop and then bring in the rhythm in sync w it using the 10r?
Can you make a video on how to use it with Tone Studio? No Manual or directions?
I can’t hear the input during loop playback. I can hear it fine when recording, though. I’ve looked through all the settings and found nothing for input, just loop level. Can anybody help?
I just want to know: can you play multiple recorded loops in a single performance (hands free, say verse, chorus, bridge) if you have a controller like the FS-6? Also can the drum beats be output separately to a mixer? Can both of these be done at the same time? Thanks if anyone can help.
He explains in the video that with the RC-5, you are unable to separate out the drum beats. You're able to do so with, at least, the RC-10R. Uncertain about the RC-500.
@@ansonbiller thanks for letting me know. I didnt have an hour to burn on this video.
@@DrPepperZZZ Highly recommend 2x the speed via settings on any educational video. BOSS' old RC-50 can do what you're after with the having separate verse, chorus, bridge sections. ~$245-275 used at the moment.
@@ansonbiller good idea on 2x speed. I'll have to remember that. I ended up ordering a digitech trio+ with the 3 button remote switch. I think that's going to do what I want. If not I'll have fun trying it out and flipping it for something else.
Awesome video! Does it allow for drums fill in in some way?
yes, at least sort of...
You're the best at this that's why boss pays you!
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I was just wondering if you'd be able to tell me is it possible to enable the drum loop to continue after all loop playbacks? as opposed to just cutting out alongside the loop playbacks when I double tap the pedal
I don’t think that works
Can you do one for the RC-30?
I plugged my Moog grandmother into the midi in and when I hit the keys it plays the drums which is cool but I want to know how to turn it off.
Can you tell me on which output (A or B) does the integrated rythm in output when in stereo ?
this one can’t split the rhythm to a separate output
Say suppose I pre record a loop. Can I set it to play for suppose 4 measures, and then it automatically stops? Contemplating on getting this one. Thankz for ze epicz explanationz...
yes, that is possible
looks interesting.
Is it possible to save WAVs from my computer into it and loop them? I was able to do that with the RC-3 but this one always says "Unsupported file" no matter the sample rate, duration , amount of audio channels or bits per sample.
Yes, I can do it with my RC-5. You have to use the Tone Studio software, which is very clunky but works. Sample rate MUST be set to 44.1kHz. Bit depth can be 16, 24 or 32 - I used 24.
Can you loop two separate instruments through this? say guitar / keys. One in each input/output?
Awesome video as usual! I can't figure out how to toggle "overdub" mode via MIDI when playing back. Anyone know how? I can start recording, start playback, stop playback, but no overdub.
Any update on this? Trying to overdub via midi no luck so far
@@joshuajacob2128 I reached out to Boss and they confirmed that you can’t trigger overdub via Midi. I returned my RC-5 because of this.
@@rockstarjoethanks for confirming that it’s not possible to trigger overdub via midi.
Can you use that control thing in the stop/memory/shift hole, and make it a kill switch on off to what is recorded and put it in a dub.lol..? where you even tried to switch it on and off with your head like you were crushing an empty beer can?.lol
What did u use for the ambient sound?
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If a track is set at One-Shot, is there a way to overdub?
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At around 18 min, video showed that time signature can be changed from 4/4 to 5/8 6/8 etc... I can not do it, anybody else having the same problem, any advice? Thank you....
Hola! A ver si alguien me puede ayudar, ¿saben como no perder las grabaciones del looper al apagarlo?? es necesario pasarlo al PC para no perderlo? tengo un looper RC-5. GRACIAS
Huuhuuu! Ich bin super happy mit dem RC-5, aber leider klappt bei mir das "TRK START" und "TRK STOP" einzeln nicht - nur das "TRK P/S", was für mein Szenario eher so semioptimal ist :) Hättest Du eine Idee, woran das liegen kann? Egal, was ich an MIDI sende - auch der Tipp mit 127 und dann eine 0 direkt hinterher ... Super merkwürdig :/
I've had MANY loopers, three this year alone..... boss my favorite. I've purchased two RC-5 about a year apart. This second one seems to have a volume issue with the drum tracks being excessivly LOUD! since I never experienced the problem with the first RC-5 ..... I'm gluessing the second one might be damaged? I have tried finding a global volume control with no avail. I ran a factory reset twice, with no change. I hate to sell it and pass on the problem to someone else, I also hate to take a $175 dollar loss! Any thoughts?
You may have covered this, but am I correct that the rc-5 does not give an option to assign a particular output A/B to either the rhythm or loop track like the rc-500? Thanks.
correct, it can’t do that
@@EytschPi42 Thanks!
I can´t import or export any back tracking. These functions do not activate to let me do it. It let me in the past but now it is not possible despite I have updated it. Any Idea about it?
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You are very well! Please show me, how can i turn off power rc5. Thank!
pull the power plug
Do not just pull the power plug. 🤦🏻♂️ pull the 1/4” jack from output A (it says power), which will turn it off. If you pull the power cable out and leave the jack in, you’ll be draining the battery.
what's the point of having all these new drum sounds if it's not possible to output them to a mixer or pa?- They will sound like crap through a guitar amp... so basically the drum parts are not usable in a live setting ..or am i missing something?
You can split it actually. It’s late so I’m not going to type the instructions right now. But you can. I do it all the time. There’s another commenter on here that explains it.
Can you separate the drum tracks/redirect them? Meaning, send them to an Alesis Strike speaker while the guitar loops continue to be sent to/through amp/cab?
not with this one
Hi Henning,
I'm hoping that you can help me. I configured "memory inc" and "memory dec" on midi CC 80 and 81.
My idea is to have a verse loop on say memory #1 and chorus on memory #2, so that I can switch between them with my midi controller footswitch (a m-vave chocolate). All works fine (thanks to your great tip about sending CC 127 followed by CC 0).
Unfortunately, when switching between the 2 memory slots (from verse to chorus), there is a lag, so when it
is supposed to be playing the chorus (memory slot #2), it plays about 1 beat from the beginning of memory slot #1 (verse) before continuing, so you get this horrible overlap between the 2 memory slots.
Is there anything that I could do to fix this?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
I agree Boss really do need to access how they format the device in terms of usable access to settings and straight forward usage of settings. Also I hate the tap function which changes the tempo a bastard of an idea. Why.
Don’t set 1stop before recording. After a shutdown and startup your recorded track will have a wobble or roto-sound to it. Took me forever to figure that out. Set 1stop after recording the track and you are fine.