I Switched from Fl Studio to Ableton for 24 Hours!

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Комментарии • 155

  • @SIKKYBEATS
    @SIKKYBEATS  Год назад +68

    Have I betrayed my loyal fl studio users? hell no! FL Gang for lyfe!

    • @dm12e
      @dm12e Год назад

      Fuck yeahhh

    • @cvader7
      @cvader7 Год назад

      Ur making sense! Welcome to a logical workflow..lol

    • @amritproductionz
      @amritproductionz Год назад

      Bro i wanna see a tuturial on them vocals

  • @beatsmithaudio9245
    @beatsmithaudio9245 Год назад +93

    I have and use both FL and Ableton. If you’re able to have both… it’s an insane combination. Good luck on your Ableton journey!

    • @CallMe_DrWorm
      @CallMe_DrWorm Год назад +11

      I just found out that Lusine uses FL and Cubase in studio, and Live for sets. It just soldified for me that it doesn't matter the DAW, use any and all to get what you WANT.

    • @SIKKYBEATS
      @SIKKYBEATS  Год назад +8

      Thanks man, appreciate that so much!

    • @Juline1221
      @Juline1221 Год назад +2

      Facts that's what people don't talk about enough.

    • @dylanpaulmusic
      @dylanpaulmusic Год назад +1

      Same😂😂🔥

    • @EpilepsyGod
      @EpilepsyGod Год назад +3

      Piano roll in Fl is fvcking awesome

  • @davdcl499
    @davdcl499 Год назад +21

    I started on FL. Stayed on it for about 6 yrs. Made the switch to Ableton..... Never looked back. Once you learn it, you'll understand it's significantly faster than FL. Shortcut for shortcut, etc.

    • @SIKKYBEATS
      @SIKKYBEATS  Год назад +1

      Yo thanks for Watching dm me on IG let me know what kit I can send you!

    • @steph_nyc
      @steph_nyc 8 месяцев назад

      Exactly...and let's not talk about the modulations.

  • @Brainiac7258
    @Brainiac7258 Год назад +11

    The thing I love about Ableton is I can bring in my favorite production tools (Maschine, Reason, FL) as VST. Definitely recommend.

    • @theycallmecity
      @theycallmecity Год назад +1

      you can do that in FL. I run Maschine and MPC Beats through FL

  • @samuelrechlin7599
    @samuelrechlin7599 Год назад +15

    I started with FL 12 years ago, then switched to Logix pro X after a couple of years, then over to Cubase for another 3 or 4 years and now I am back in my home daw FL studio. But for recording Instruments and mixing I really like Cubase. If I make beats or electronic music I use also FL.
    So it is interesting to see what Ableton looks like because I also had it on my computer but never used it :D
    Have a nice weekend

  • @reemau802
    @reemau802 Год назад +1

    Always Sikky bring new sauce!, I’m very happy when you upload new video 🤩, and bro! These drums are 🔥🔥🔥

    • @SIKKYBEATS
      @SIKKYBEATS  Год назад

      yo thanks you man, I'm trying to upload another one this week.

    • @dach0_0
      @dach0_0 Год назад

      Ya sé de donde sacas tanta salsa

    • @reemau802
      @reemau802 Год назад

      @@dach0_0 Es un gran amigo e inspiración bro

  • @soniibeatz
    @soniibeatz Год назад +13

    I like Ableton but i've heard they're both good just depends on your workflow. Some people like to switch back n forth depending on their mood like decap

  • @dm12e
    @dm12e Год назад +8

    Went surprisingly well for a FL user tbh

  • @SvgeRose
    @SvgeRose Год назад +4

    U make me wanna hit the studio!! I love your stuff

  • @beatsmithaudio9245
    @beatsmithaudio9245 Год назад +4

    Drum rack and impulse will get you the quick drum sequencing workflow you’re looking for in Ableton.

  • @traezaX1
    @traezaX1 Год назад +8

    I'm sure a ableton is great but the GUI what made me choose FL and the lifetime free updates and the fact you can also make videos ...and ableton is great for live music on stage ...pick whichever everyone's got their preference

    • @stop6production
      @stop6production Год назад

      Same here, I hate the arrangement setup of FL studio but you pay once and get lifetime free updates with UNLIMITED EVERYTHING. Abelton you technically pay to play based on your level of production. For $50 with FLS you can have everything you need vs abelton and their 16 tracks only. Pro Logic and FLS for life for me

    • @traezaX1
      @traezaX1 Год назад

      @@stop6production I hear you 🥳🥳🥳

  • @ChadwickRider
    @ChadwickRider Год назад +6

    I've tried them all over the years... Reaper, Pro Tools, Logic, Garageband, Cakewalk, FL Studio, etc... I prefer Ableton. They're all great and it's nice there is a variety in my opinion.
    It's totally subjective but for my workflow Ableton works best.

  • @yahshawnel
    @yahshawnel Год назад +9

    A lot of people base there preferences off of the fact that alot of producers use Alberton. I know fl has come a long way and it's getting better each year with free upgrades. Basically it's whatever your preference is. I won't pick something because everyone is using it I will pick something that I know will works for me best in the end. FL STUDIO FOR LIFE.

  • @GT-rh9vr
    @GT-rh9vr Год назад +1

    I love so much your music and vocal you made!!!😍😍🔥🔥🔥

  • @lightinout
    @lightinout 7 месяцев назад +2

    "Drum rack" is ableton's drum sequencer

  • @JMXCzw
    @JMXCzw Год назад +4

    Great experience... The learing curve was too much for me too. But I love how you routed your inputs through those pedals. Makes cookups more fun. Are you still using the Ryzen 9 build?

    • @SIKKYBEATS
      @SIKKYBEATS  Год назад +1

      yes sir, I think I need to upgrade my gpu tho, video editing takes a hit now days for some reason

    • @JMXCzw
      @JMXCzw Год назад +1

      @@SIKKYBEATS Im sure that will go a long way. Everything else was overkill at that time. At least now GPU prices are going down. Great choice with case though. Fits in well with the background.

    • @SIKKYBEATS
      @SIKKYBEATS  Год назад +1

      @@JMXCzwThanks so much man. I need to find a way to manage all these cables coming out the back tho, so ugly\/

  • @simranbanwait
    @simranbanwait Год назад

    Hey sikky wassup , watching after a long time , got busy with life and stuff , love your content, keep making these videos bro

  • @Username_Invalid
    @Username_Invalid Год назад

    8:20 yo head is a metronome 😆. Nice vide btw 🔥

  • @ChrisDavisWorks
    @ChrisDavisWorks Год назад +1

    Crazy beat man great vid! How did your VST’s carry over?

  • @DMONEY721020
    @DMONEY721020 Год назад

    Ooooeeee a splice pack! I’m excited for that!

  • @rubencoelho9667
    @rubencoelho9667 Год назад +2

    Bro, in what genre does the 1st beat fits into?? My God, those 808 slides just murdered me... 🔥🔥🔥

  • @David-hz8pf
    @David-hz8pf Год назад +1

    Reaper is king...you can make it do anything in ur imagination. Best custom DAW. I've had no reason to look back after using Protools and Ableton.

  • @clast
    @clast Год назад +17

    There is no such thing as "Accidentally" 😂. It's okay if you want to switch from FL Studio to Ableton though. I remember my first time using Ableton, I was scared for life. Imo it has a very intimidating interface if you come from a different DAW. But also has some dope tools and workflow I really miss in FL

    • @SwiftDreamer
      @SwiftDreamer Год назад +2

      Do you know that you can use the FL Studio VSTi plugin inside of Ableton to basically record audio from FL (to use FL's workflow) into Ableton?

    • @ashthaproducer
      @ashthaproducer Год назад

      I really like this comment sometimes you need to spice the relationship maybe Ableton does that. But FL been top tier the first MPC DAW

    • @djdeemz7651
      @djdeemz7651 Год назад

      One thing I love with it that fl doesn't do is when day your using automation on on an LFO on a synth , the automation says the value so you know it's at 1/4 or whatever without having to go back and look at the settings

  • @TheLionsDen
    @TheLionsDen Год назад +1

    Something that helps to make drums in ableton is using a drum rack. Kinda simalar to the step sequencer, but fls drum work flow is still insane

  • @ash-pi2ft
    @ash-pi2ft 2 дня назад

    whats the jacket your wearing at the start?

  • @darthemberr
    @darthemberr Год назад +3

    7:42 Abelton has drum rack

    • @HITMAN1er
      @HITMAN1er 2 месяца назад

      @angelazlanbeats step sequencer is a crutch imo. Ableton 12 fixed all the piano roll issues I had with it.

  • @relik.selects
    @relik.selects Год назад +2

    😂 do ya thang sikky beats do ya thang

    • @SIKKYBEATS
      @SIKKYBEATS  Год назад

      im doin ma thang! thanks for being on this one man

  • @Lawrencecarterwolfgang
    @Lawrencecarterwolfgang Год назад

    That melody the first Angelic

  • @roxnroll8050
    @roxnroll8050 Год назад

    Which version of FL would you suggest? Are ALL plugins worth it? Or would the Producer Edition be good enough?

    • @kid4402
      @kid4402 9 месяцев назад +1

      Anything but the fruity edition is good

  • @ChetaMeister
    @ChetaMeister Год назад +1

    welcome to the light side bro.

  • @hjkhhjkh3635
    @hjkhhjkh3635 Год назад

    Hey man, would you say drums in FL Studio sound better than in Ableton?

  • @dm12e
    @dm12e Год назад

    Always is the fire 808s 😭🔥🔥

  • @Godnationworld
    @Godnationworld Год назад

    Sick Beatz
    Big up homie

  • @lilwombat
    @lilwombat Год назад +2

    the main thing that made me switch to ableton was that i was doing a lot of recording and it sucks in fl its so messy. the only thing i miss from fl is the piano roll because i used to use the tools alot but ive gotten pretty comfy doing drums in ableton

    • @SIKKYBEATS
      @SIKKYBEATS  Год назад +2

      Fl Studio recording audio is very different from other daw. its not perfect or bad, but I do feel like I need to use something else to get results.

    • @2BTO
      @2BTO Год назад

      Fl recording is a LOT better now with audio tracks, only thing I think they’re missing is better comping imo

    • @SlippyDong
      @SlippyDong Год назад +2

      Are you using Edison for recording? You can record multiple takes on a loop in 1 go and then replay each of them and keep the ones you like without ever leaving Edison. No hassle saving a bunch of files, dragging them onto tracks or anything like that.

  • @clarysshow
    @clarysshow 7 месяцев назад

    I'm a very fond fl studio but no doubt ableton is the go to option when it comes to sampling, using loops to do stuff and the automation is just far better in ableton than any of the daw I have seen. Also, ableton is just good when it comes to big house or like those club type genre musics
    I use the best from both of the worlds :)

  • @SwiftDreamer
    @SwiftDreamer Год назад +2

    These DAWSare tools. Use whatever you want. FL has FL Studio VSTi that allows you to use FL Studio with other DAWs, so use both at the same time if you want!

    • @dm12e
      @dm12e Год назад

      I use fl as a wrapper if a plugin refuses to show up on live

  • @steph_nyc
    @steph_nyc 8 месяцев назад

    Interesting video...i would say : use what you feel comfortable with. But i really engage everyone to be fluent with many DAWs.
    Because FL studio is very popular but is not an industry standard, you will benefit switching between DAWs.
    I guess it also depends the type of music tou make. If its loops based with just a little bit of midi and not a lot of modulation, pick FL Studio, its not worth it to pay for constant upgrades when you have this for free on FL.
    But if you compose more complex melodies, requiring a lot of FX and modulations, less problem for files sharing and with a huge community who already made all of the FX Chain and racks that you need, Ableton and other DAWs might make your life easier on many level.
    Yet you can achieve the same things on both most of the time, FL has its own way of doing things and its not always the easiest way.
    If you are new to music production, it really depends if you are on a tight budget. I would advise to directly use software such as Ableton, Logic, Bitwig etc if you can...for many reasons. But if you are on a budget go for FL and if you feel like it, maybe later you'll learn other DAWs 🙃

  • @prodbyaxli
    @prodbyaxli Год назад

    Love your content bro!❤

  • @KhokhaNeluvhalani
    @KhokhaNeluvhalani Год назад +1

    😌I use both that way I never have to choose

  • @taylorstep8135
    @taylorstep8135 Год назад

    what the name of the cable that you used for you synth??? to send midi files

  • @xykosince9213
    @xykosince9213 Год назад

    that sound was 👍 u got my my sub bro..

  • @stefanwsteward
    @stefanwsteward Год назад

    There’s a drum rack for drums. I personally just drag the audio files into the playlist

  • @AvecyTunez
    @AvecyTunez Год назад

    i subscribed when i hear that bass

  • @steph_nyc
    @steph_nyc 8 месяцев назад

    Why didn't you use the Drum Machine?
    Making a bit on Ableton (and Bitwig) is much easier actually than FL Studio.
    You think there is no drum sequencer...well, not the FL way, which is actually a pretty unusual way to make beats. But the grid in a midi clip on Ableton (and Bitwig) has 2 modes...included one for the drums.

  • @piriri1162
    @piriri1162 Год назад

    What midi controller u use ?

  • @GT-rh9vr
    @GT-rh9vr Год назад

    If you made the full track of this all sounds then plzzz upload your track because I love this so much😍🔥🔥

  • @Stereotyp-X
    @Stereotyp-X Год назад

    nice try, thanks for it!
    So my 2 cents if you own an Akai MPC Live, One or Studio Hardware you'll have the Software too, combine it as a VST PlugIn inside FL Studio. Nothing can stop this joint venture.
    Legendary beats straight from the hardware side by side with the mother of all DAWs :) - give it a try !

  • @Hezium
    @Hezium Год назад +1

    Missed you bud 🎉

  • @dylanpaulmusic
    @dylanpaulmusic Год назад +1

    Actually ableton has its own drum sequencer as an instrument🥲and you can just click in the drum pattern. You just need to figure things out. I use both fl and ableton though😌ableton has a faster work flow

  • @karlpilime2527
    @karlpilime2527 Год назад

    Drum Rack will help you with your Ableton drum programming

  • @jannikshelton1812
    @jannikshelton1812 Год назад +1

    Can you do it with logic because I use it and yah it would be cool what other daw user think 🙏🏾

  • @beatsmithaudio9245
    @beatsmithaudio9245 Год назад

    Impulse or drum rack will fix your issues with laying down drum patterns quickly.

  • @yunginproductions
    @yunginproductions Год назад

    Abelton, FL, and Pro Tools gng

  • @LeoXonix
    @LeoXonix Год назад

    Switching DAWs can be a pain, I switched from FL to Reaper to make beats and it was a process, FL is so different from anything else.

  • @hughman8597
    @hughman8597 Год назад +1

    I use Fl Studio since "Fruity Loops" but Ableton is easier with external gear. But i get myself if something is not working i switch to FL. It is and will be the best Software ever. Hope you understood what i mean. Its been a while since the english class in school😃. Greetings from germany

  • @chukiextra2991
    @chukiextra2991 Год назад +1

    I would like to see a quick vocal recording from a newbie before i consider the switch

  • @kiMMzy
    @kiMMzy Год назад +9

    Switched to Ableton a couple of months ago after 9 years with FL studio, and literally made more progress in those couple months than I did in 9 years.... Ableton is just so much more professional DAW with outstanding workflow, and it's less RAM and CPU hungry as well. It was an eye opening experience and I'm definitely not coming back to FL studio

    • @SIKKYBEATS
      @SIKKYBEATS  Год назад +1

      Whatever you’re comfortable with. I think I need to use both to get the best balance for my sound. Thanks for sharing, love hearing the community stories like this man!

    • @Xandersgallery
      @Xandersgallery Год назад

      Is it way easier to use???And please be honest, because I don't know what to choose. What else is able to way better at?

    • @DanniManni
      @DanniManni 8 месяцев назад

      @@Xandersgalleryplease choose ableton it’s way more fun and fl studio will literally hurt you even tho you’ve used it for years it looks like a toy everything is just everywhere and you gotta find it but in ableton it’s just in one place

  • @xxl_foundation
    @xxl_foundation Год назад

    i used FL Studio since i was 6, and now i'm 21. should i switch to ableton?

    • @boomboombaby9140
      @boomboombaby9140 Год назад

      No because FL has Stem separation and ableton does not

  • @ext3845
    @ext3845 Год назад

    Nice video 🔥

  • @burakkaya6507
    @burakkaya6507 Год назад

    What are the notes for the minifreak melody he used?

  • @Kendonezia
    @Kendonezia 10 месяцев назад

    That beat you made in Fl is 🍌🍌🍌🍌 s

  • @freddiey.1328
    @freddiey.1328 Год назад +3

    I think Ableton is more powerful & professional. Advantage of FL Studio is less CPU usage.

    • @alngameplays7310
      @alngameplays7310 Год назад

      Nope, Both are capable and professional, learn FL Studio and the tools and then you can have an objective opinion!!

  • @demonicsweaters
    @demonicsweaters Год назад +1

    Ableton is just so much easier and intuitive. FLStudio is so cluttered and hard to navigate around in.

  • @cckdex
    @cckdex Год назад

    EVERHBODY IS ON THIS BUT DRUM RACK + PIANO ROLL IS LITERALLY A STEP SEQUENCER

  • @paprin9111
    @paprin9111 2 месяца назад

    beat iss tuff

  • @itsowlmygod
    @itsowlmygod Год назад

    6:40 drum rack should help a lot
    Also... Where the mayo?

  • @johnjohntv1195
    @johnjohntv1195 Год назад

    FL piano roll the GOAT

  • @gregorydemosthenes4434
    @gregorydemosthenes4434 Год назад

    Use impulse for drums and or drum racks but prefer impulse

  • @romeocruz1986
    @romeocruz1986 Год назад

    Cool Video 👍Sikky u can use XO by XLN Audio for the drum sequencing part but i agree FL is better in that aspect. Also FL's Piano Roll is the best in any DAW.

    • @SIKKYBEATS
      @SIKKYBEATS  Год назад +1

      Bro true, ableton needs to copy that one quick. its was painful clicking in those drums

    • @romeocruz1986
      @romeocruz1986 Год назад

      @@SIKKYBEATS they copied a little bit, at least u can use the scale in midi mode and some random settings. But these settings are not created very good. 😅

  • @omfgihopethisworks
    @omfgihopethisworks Год назад

    Try Bitwig next!

  • @gulabphalswal7368
    @gulabphalswal7368 Год назад

    Sikky Mera Bhai ❤️ abelton

  • @hasan7786
    @hasan7786 3 месяца назад

    I always hear FL Studio is the most "Popular" DAW but not the most "Powerful". Ableton is more powerful if you're being honest, FL studio is more "get in and get the works done" in my opinion. Ableton is a playground I struggle to work in. I've got more done in logic pro. Guess less is more in my case. Maybe this metaphor makes sense: FL studio is like chiseling stone, it aint easy but with every chip you chisel, you're getting closer to the finished product. Ableton like chiseling stone in the middle of an arcade full of pinball machines, street fighter 2 classic, and a bunch of those 4 player old arcade games like TMNT and Simpsons. Good fucking luck trying to chisel that stone.

  • @whatsaaappthesequel
    @whatsaaappthesequel Год назад

    Drum rack exists

  • @Paradroidx
    @Paradroidx Год назад

    Bro knew how to pass audio through midi, but not turn on loop? Damn

  • @b2466-d8x
    @b2466-d8x 3 месяца назад

    Live Lite is free and very powerful

  • @gamerlikesmemes
    @gamerlikesmemes 3 месяца назад

    Abletons prices arent that bad once you realise that the education edition is 60% off at all times putting the suite price from $700 to $300 if you have a student id

  • @davdcl499
    @davdcl499 Год назад +1

    DRUM RACKS!!!!!!!

  • @arahanttt6608
    @arahanttt6608 Год назад

    you didn't use the drumrack :(

  • @HRSANmusic
    @HRSANmusic 8 месяцев назад

    you have drum rack on ableton

  • @SH3RWIN
    @SH3RWIN Год назад +2

    i think this pro fl studio user accidentally uses ableton 😲

  • @Prod_Sani
    @Prod_Sani Год назад

    u can also increase gain in fl studio

  • @djdeemz7651
    @djdeemz7651 Год назад +3

    I have been using FL for about 10 years but decided to give Ableton a go and I'm torn between the two , I prefer the work flow of fl but Im also a scratch dj and record alot and I'm really liking recording on Ableton as its wraps what I do and the loop recorder section is dope I just don't like if production wise , I have live lite and Im trying 90 day demo and I reckon I'm gonna use both but just get the intro version of Abelton as 16 tracks is enough and when I'm making mixtapes there isn't much after production work all FX I do through my mixer as I'm playing.. I'm gonna see how I get on until trial is done ....right now though FL is way better ... But if they both fucked each other and made a baby daw that was them both in one it would be perfect

    • @hjkhhjkh3635
      @hjkhhjkh3635 Год назад +1

      I’m in the same boat. I feel like studio one is their love child, but I just don’t like S1 that much, I’ve made dope tracks in it but it’s interface is mmmeehh compared to fl.

    • @jamesmlopez02
      @jamesmlopez02 11 месяцев назад

      it's a good thing you can use both hehe

  • @demykbbeats5588
    @demykbbeats5588 Год назад

    Needed this! I was considering cheating on FL with Ableton :S

  • @josephosoma564
    @josephosoma564 Год назад

    I hate to tell you this,but am a good person and I want to help you, reaper is the best pants down

  • @KennyCalypso
    @KennyCalypso Год назад +1

    does this mean, he switching

  • @tjnotico
    @tjnotico Год назад

    Guys can someone please recommend me a tutorial that gives the basics of Ableton (I have 6+ years on FL but I wanna learn new Draws)

    • @SIKKYBEATS
      @SIKKYBEATS  Год назад +2

      check out @EdTalenti, Mr.Bill is dope. found this other dude dnksauce or something the other day that was crazy with it too. Oversampled is sick. man too many dope creators on ableton fr fr

    • @theopacalypse
      @theopacalypse Год назад

      @@SIKKYBEATS Ldre 2

  • @fpsoundpacks
    @fpsoundpacks Год назад +2

    way too fast and too many cuts man! Slow your presentation down, it's just overcharging!!!

  • @Abosaharyourdj
    @Abosaharyourdj Месяц назад

    now who is win???? or its just show

  • @producebyavionstylz
    @producebyavionstylz 9 месяцев назад

    There’s a drum rack

  • @TheRealCalijokes01
    @TheRealCalijokes01 3 месяца назад

    Leaving fl should be cardinal sin

  • @koskoto01
    @koskoto01 4 месяца назад

    Didn't learn nothing about the differences between the 2 softwares. Just a biga** commercial of the Arturia Mini Freak.

  • @stayhot999
    @stayhot999 Год назад

    They think I can do trap and things like that in ableton 😫

  • @cookisdope
    @cookisdope Год назад

    RELIK IS DOPE AF!

  • @jeorgj9491
    @jeorgj9491 Год назад

    Use drum racks bro

    • @SIKKYBEATS
      @SIKKYBEATS  Год назад

      thanks man, I didn't know about that one. will do.

  • @SilxDrums
    @SilxDrums Год назад

    Bruh starting to look like nav..😂😂

  • @dosage13
    @dosage13 Год назад

    only thing fl does better is piano roll and step seqeuncer. ableton piano roll is very basic and sorely missing some features that fl has.

  • @blessdatrack4masssoundprod773
    @blessdatrack4masssoundprod773 Год назад +1

    lol mane u bets not ohhh no dont do it sik

  • @gavlax9498
    @gavlax9498 Год назад

    If you know how to use ableton properly workflow is pretty quick 😂😂

  • @DarkMetaOFFICIAL
    @DarkMetaOFFICIAL Год назад +1

    just uninstall it, mistakes were made 😂

  • @kazdull
    @kazdull Год назад

    Don't get Ableton if you are a beginner.
    It's super unintuitive and confusing to use. Also with your Intro version (bundle version with some Arturia hardware) you only get to work with up to 8 channels (which can be MIDI or Audio, up to you) and that's not enough to try it out. Way too much mouse clicking required, the whole idea of "first put your draft in Session View, then click 5 places with the mouse to be sure all is armed and ready, then press record and THEN you can do additional work in Arrangement View" is overcomplicated nonsense.
    I don't care if it have better capabilities for professional or what ever it is, just saying that for beginners it's demotivating to go through hours and hours of info before been able to play with it.
    I've managed to make a full (simple) track in FL Studio in around 5 hours after my first use, compared to Ableton where I had to watch over 10 hours of RUclips beginner guide videos and still feel stuck on how to start assembling everything, it's overwhelming.

    • @YoungMannie92
      @YoungMannie92 Год назад +2

      Just because it was confusing for you doesnt mean that it will be confusing for others. And you have to do a lot of mouse clicking with Fl Studio as well so i dont get your point.