Are Industry Producers Switching to Ableton Live from FL Studio?
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:53 Ableton Live Pros
03:47 Ableton Live Cons
06:01 FL Studio Pros
08:34 FL Studio Cons
11:34 Pricing
13:03 Which DAW?
14:28 Are The Pro's Leaving FL? 
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Switched from FL to Ableton. After way too many years on FL. It changed my life!. Now I get it, to me it's way better in every aspect of music production. Workflow especially. Amazing.
I also want to switch soon
@@eren3390go for it! I just did last week and I really admire ableton. I feel like my creativity has been reaching new heights. I also think it’s easier to make it easier on the eyes with its themes. And not that it matters, but people that know nothing about DAWS see me using ableton and always point out how professional and insane “whatever I’m using” looks. Didn’t hear that with FL
since i am a hobbyist and don't make money on my music, and don't always have money to spend, lifetime free updates sold me on FL Studio, along with having very good stock plugins like maximus, grossbeat, sytrus, etc
also i fixed the recording issues by just setting it to record everything and clicking "don't ask again"
then the recording only record audio if you arm a track to record, and only records midi if you play in midi notes
if i am on song mode it records to the playlist, and pattern mode records to the pattern
if i wanna record into Edison i just open Edison
idk why it isn't like this by default, it is super smooth and works like basically every other daw
Fl is money well spent....I can't say that about any other daw...
Wow that’s beautiful I never knew that
Yeah I record straight into the tracks. I only use Edison on certain occasions
I also switched from FL to Ableton many years ago. FL is good for when you want to learn how to work with DAWs, it's much easier to learn than Ableton, but Ableton just felt more like the "big brother" who is more mature and fought many wars and is more refined, while FL feels like that young kid who still goes to clubs to get high and wasted and have fun 24/7.
Thanks for the info bro! Good video👍🏻
Thanks for the info brother
After so many years on FL, i felt everything is there, you just need to know it, moving to new daw is like complete journey from scratch but yes i go to different daws for some awesome leads 😁❤️🙏
Great content brother, very professional too! You deserve more subs. I'm new to producing and you just gained a new subscriber.
if u want ghost notes in live then click the midi and ctrl+ left click the midi u want to see as ghost notes n you can switch them
Ahhh yeah I thought there might be a way to do it but forgot how. Thanks!!
Great video! I'm an Ableton user myself, but I picked up FL Studio a few years ago. I've never really been able to wrap my head around the workflow in FL, but I do enjoy their stock plugins, especially the sounds. I mostly use third party VSTs in Ableton, but in FL I could see myself using stock sounds, they're really good.
Great video man
What a great and well organized video
This was helpful. I use Fl and have been for years. I have tossed around the idea of switching over to Ableton but always come back to the idea of like you said daws are tools. There is support on both ends for whatever music you are trying to create. For now I'll keep plugging away in Fl but will most likely add Ableton to the toolbox. Thanks for the video and the amount of detail you gave explaining things about both.
Appreciate the comment and glad the video was helpful!
I'm a long-time Reaper and FL Studio user and recently added Live to my list of DAWs. I wish I'd discovered it years ago! - The workflow is so intuitive, and it comes with so many useful instruments and effects, I barely use any of my purchased plug-ins anymore.
Live is like a combination of the pattern workflow from FL Studio with the 'linear' track recording from Reaper.
Live came before Reaper....
Wow, great overview comparison, thank you! 👍💯 I still have Ableton Live 10, was curious to see a comparison like this.
for that ableton recording audio thing, i always have a couple "input recording tracks" but i dont actually arm them, just monitor and the recording is done on the selected audio. solid workaround. ableton is super optimized for playing live i use it like a modular or like hardware. session view is the ultimate for jamming.
Bounce in place will be included in Ableton 12 which will be released this month or next. Quick Replace Samples is just as easy in FL, Strum/Chopper will also be included in Ableton 12 (with many other new Midi features), Delay Compensation will apparently also be fixed in that Update. If you want to see Midi of multiple Midi Clips you just have to select them simultaneously. And you just have to toggle B in Piano roll to be able to draw Midi in like in FL.
where did you hear about bounce in place? I'm in the beta and it certainly isnt a feature at the moment and idk If they'd have time to add something like that last minute. The rest is def true tho
It isn't really a proper bounce in place feature. Just makes freeze and flatten one click. But yeah after looking into the Live 12 update more it seems like there are some cool features for sure!
@@Tonetreat why isn't it a proper bounce in place ?what is the diffent between FL studio bounce in place vs Live 12 frezze&flatten combined ?
@@larsb.nielsen4481 It's the equivalent of if you consolidated a pattern in FL Studio and the pattern got deleted along with the instruments and effects on the mixer. Instead of just rendering out the region into a new track and keeping the instruments and effects.
@@Tonetreatas someone who switched from fl to ableton, m4l is able to solve most of my issues w ableton !! theres a simple bounce in place / bip m4l device that introduced a keybind to automatically create a new track, set it to resample, and start recording; essentially printing the track in real time !! that paired w dylan tallchiefs live enhancement suite and a bunch of m4l devices to handle sicechain, autosave, etc have made my ableton workflow amazingly smooth :p
Some Ableton cons you mentioned will be tackled in Live 12, as well as some FL pros will be added to Live 12. Happy days for Ableton users.
Good luck with this new channel wish you the best !!!
Thanks for this unbiased review. Its made me decide to stick to FL studio since changing just for the sake of saving a few mouse clicks doesnt seem like a good idea, especially for someone already accustomed to FL.
Get really fed up of people spreading bs like one is superior to the other when the differences are so mimutely small. Apart from the price of course
heres an idea, make all your melodies in fl, then do all the changes in ableton, there are major strengths to both, if you got both might as well use it haha
fun vid, Live does have a pattern rack, kinda, select the track and the other track(s) you want to see midi on and they both pop up.
I don't even use the sequencer, the piano roll is to "freeing", i just use the channel rack like a instrument folder.
and using the rack that way feels more better cuz,
1. multiple instr can be in one pattern,
and 2. i can auto assign instruments to mixer and playlist, and automation can go under the playlist track instr is assign to which fixes the automation spawning anywhere problem
I know people who use both as well. No reason to limit yourself to one DAW if you want to use each one for different purposes! (though that can get pricey fast :P)
You tube is so Diluted with all the marketing, that this VIDEO WAS SO HARD TO FIND. The examples and the comparison is right on point for a pro user
Appreciate it!!
Great video. Up until about 6 months ago I had both Live 11 and FL, but sold my licence for Live to focus on FL for a bit. However, you have highlighted something that caught me out quite a few times and that is the make unique function, which I agree can be very frustrating until you get used to it as part of the work flow. I messed up quite a few parts of a track with that. And also the automation lanes.
The pay once model for FL is excellent, I have owned it for over 12 years and continue to get all the latest updates.
I am considering whether to get Live again, firstly for the reasons you mentioned, 2nd because a lot of the producers I follow use it, so it makes relating to what they do easier, but also for collaborations.
what about freeze/flatten? isnt it doing pretty much the same thing as bounce when used on audio tracks?
Strum, variation, chop, Bounce in place now in ableton 12
You said it. It takes about half as many clicks, or less, to do anything in Live. IL makes some killer synths and plugins though, I still use them in Live all the time.
Finally a proper answer! Ableton seems the best way for me!
The best Daw is the one you use. Do not switch because some bloke on youtube tells you thats what professionals are doing. Make music because you love it. Just remember us as an audience are not the consumer we are the product.
This was exactly my point at the end!
@@Tonetreat yeah I am glad you went there. I am one of these bedroom producers that are bored of multimillionaire youtubers shilling shitty plugins at exorbitant prices. I am not saying that is you or will be you btw. Good vid man I am subbing
@@TheBeardsShow Appreciate it bro! Let me know if you have any video ideas you think would be helpful
Been on Ableton for almost 15 years, best DAW ever for the creative process
I feel like bitwig is even more suited for creative minds. Give it a try !
Do you purchase updates everytime one is available?
That’s a bit bias lmao
@@Lloydy1234321 no its not if you actually use ableton
Well, i've tried ableton and its very good. But as FL user for more than decade, i stay. 2 reasons:
Life time updates
I can translate macros from ableton to fl (virtual riots latest videos), so i see no point to.
At the end of day, trying new things wont hurt and might actually give hella kick of boost for productions.
🔥🔥🔥
Ableton's lack of proper plugin delay compensation for plugins that need to sync to the host transport is what stops this from being a truly professional quality DAW in my opinion. That and the fact that its own sampler cant trigger samples on the grid accurately if the sample is retriggered while currently playing
I appreciate a lot about FL Studio, but there's one aspect that could definitely use improvement: the automation of volume in the piano roll. Compared to Ableton, where from what I've seen you can place volume points very closely together for smooth volume automation, FL's system feels clunky. In FL, it's based on bars rather than dots, so quickly adjusting volume can result in choppy changes rather than smooth transitions. While you can also automate the volume in the mixer, it becomes cumbersome when you need to fine-tune the sound as a whole.
Right-clicking and dragging in the piano roll for volume adjustments also lacks the finesse needed for smooth changes. So thats a big negative point I personally see in FL.
In FL set the magnate to NONE and you make the automation as smooth as possible. Also in FL you can automate many different ways... 1. in the playlist 2. in the channel rack 3. control automation from other inputs
@@ericahanes2009 Thank you sooo much🙏 I just tried it out setting the magnet to none and it works exactly how I wanted it to. This is a real life saver tip. Would love it if FL would give hints on things like this though.
@@swatforce3309 great to hear that... also when you are creating a beat or rhythm switching the magnate to none when you place some of the notes can give it a more organic feel and add some variety. I lock the magnate quarter notes when placing the kick and snare. But I will set it to none when placing a layered snare or percussion to give it an imperfect drag or rushing feel.
It's a quite a step learning curve from FL to A but is worthwhile. I went from making beats to making music
Just switched to ableton this past week, well got ableton lite but good way to test it out. Been spending like three hours a day after work trying to figure things out. I can say I finally get it. Automation, mixer, fx rack. Most importantly I would say the UI is less cluttered. Only pet peeve is the piano roll. Best thing is the sampler. FL sampler feels really outdated that I started using waves cr8 sampler awhile back. Saw that Thomannmusic has an upgrade for lite to suite for $475. Might re do edmprod foundations course but in ableton to learn it inside out.
Since switching to ableton I heavily miss linked patterns/clips especially automation clips, left click right click, and the use of the scroll wheel but other than that I’ve enjoyed the switch. I’ll make another song in FL one day but for now I just use it to stem out songs I want to bootleg🤷♂️
Also,routing in FL is kinda fun with the arrows at the bottle of the mixer, I’m visual so I’ve also gravitated towards Reason too.
Great video dude, imma binge the rest of your shit now lol
Ghost notes are in Ableton 11. If you highlight all the midi u would like to be visible and click the focus button.
Ableton Live Lite is very good and free . My creativity improved in leaps and bounds when I got Live Lite and a half-decent power laptop - I went from making beats with FL to making MUSIC.
Industry producers are switching from Ableton to Bitwig
This video is just 5 months old, but you seem to be oblivious to many additions that both Live and FL did recetly(ish), e.g. MIDI generators & transformers in Live and linking of patterns, playlist & mixer tracks in FL, which solve a lot of the cons you've mentioned.
Reason studios the DAW that never fails 💯🔥🪬😊
I switched from FL to Ableton about 2 years ago and so glad I made the change. I still find FL messy with their layout with so many different windows opening up. I'm currently running Live 12 Beta and has audio latency compensation added which is a great feature if you record live. Ableton also has hot swap for samples so I feel this is just as quick as FL. Live 12 has a better piano roll now than FL by a long way. I know a lot of people like the stems feature in FL but that definitely wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.
I went from ableton to fl studio after a year of production and was able to actually finish ideas and create my first beats. I’ve been thinking about trying to learn ableton now that I’m experienced in music production but fl studio is great and very easy to use. Recording is 10x better in ableton but fl studio is far easier to pick up and get going.
thanks for this comment bro 🙏🏼 gonna buy fl studio finally got a macbook no more audacity
Agreed....fl studio is very easy to pick up. I've started songs on Ableton but could never manage to complete one.
Everyone need to switch to Audacity
I believe a talented musician/producer could make great tracks on whatever DAW they should happen to use. Like John Lennon once said " I'm a musician, if you give me a tuba, I'll make music with it"
Nice vid! Also, get a pop filter
I used FL for 17 years started when I was 16 yo and was a diehard fl user..up until a few weeks ago I have ableton standard now.
Ableton does ALOT WAYYYYY easier than FL guys. It’s definitely faster to get your ideas out.
You can add variation and various other things on fl studio very, very quickly. I don't see anything here that I couldnt do on fl studio. Cool video overall though.
yeah man, the video were comparing the workflow not features, shit like warping audio and automations are a pain in fl
Im surprised he doesn't complain about the mixer cuz the mixer in fl is so lacking like why do we need patcher or link it to different channels when we run out of slots? Just make it unlimited. Copy pasting a plugin in the mixer is also so slow ( feel free if anyone knows a shortcut to this problem )
its about how quicker you do it , i can automate 100 tracks in ableton quickly while you would need a whole day to do the same , if we are just talking about doing it than just a free daw is better than fruity gay studio
also theres many things you cant do on fruity gay like grouping instruments and grouping effects and effect chains which can open new sound design possibilities
@@billysanchez-eh6nn afaik you can definitely automate multiple tracks quickly. And grouping is definitely possible although it isn't really needed for what I do.
After leaving FL 1 year ago, I've seen my mixes change so drastically I could finally get the sound in my head out of my DAW, not only for myself, but for my clients. Ableton is very conservative, it's not supposed to be a 'fun' DAW and I think that's what makes it spectacular, because what people take 3 minutes to do in FL, Ableton will force you to spend 10 minutes in it. All these things seem like a nuisance, but by the end of it, you realise your track is coming together so perfectly, you even barely need to do much in the Mixing stage. Coincidence that I got better after time? I'm not sure, but my mixes finally had more clarity, separation and loudness and all of that happened when I switched to Ableton. Oh lastly, the Automation alone is worthy of switching to Ableton. Peace!
Using a mix of pattern based loops and playlist is the superpower of FL. Most people that come from another DAW to FL try to do everything in the playlist and don't maximize the power of using patterns. In fact there are unique functions in the channel rack that is not even possible just in the playlist. Using both is key.
FL Studio has more options and ways to organize, record and do everything. It can certainly feel overwhelming. Most of the complaints in this video are just organization issues or not really being an expert at FL Studio.
One thing often left out of these types of videos is how many world class plugins come with it. Long time users of FL that know how to use the Patcher Plugin cringe every week when they a new $200 plugin to help you do something that is out of the box with FL.
Bottom line FL is overwhelming at first, but it is also the DAW that will get you a loops/tracks/ideas faster than other DAWs. But if you are used to another DAW, it can be a heavy lift and feels wrong. Many people settle into just using the Playlist and never dive into Patterns and the Channel rack.
I do wish FL visualized wav and other audio files live in more ways.
whats your input on bitwig?
great video! i will be sticking to FL studios! (this is nick btw)
not if i have anything to say about it
thank you nick! (this is not nick btw)
Honestly, most points you mentioned in the live Pros are doable and also quite fast and easy to use in FL if you know what you are doing. The audio warping is however harder to do in FL, so that is definitely a big plus point on Abletons side.
its not about if its doable or not , even fl studio mobile can do these things but its about how quickly you can do them and also i cant sit in a huge project in fl studio just looking at where is the low cut q point automation for this bass that i just automatated 15 paramteres of
Ayo it really is a spreadsheet ui I’m dead💀
I've been using FL for over 10 years now, and i'm seriously considering switching to Ableton simply because of one feature...: the Freeze Feature.
Seriously i find it baffeling that it's not already in there. But i work almost exclusively with Synths / Plungis, very little audio clips... And that gets really, really CPU heavy real fast.
We have the Consolidate feature, but the HUGE disadvantage is that it's just another audio clip - it's not running through the same mixer channel and even if you route it through that, it sounds way different. That's really not good.
I've bricked many projects simply because they just don't load anymore or i can't add plugins. I could re-work them, but i'm too lazy for that (lol) and that shouldn't happen in the first place.
I have FL, Ableton, Bitwig and Reaper. Different DAWs make different stuff easy, and hard. What's easy tends to shape what you do with a given DAW. I do wish Image Line would improve how FL can be used as a VST (esp. host automation), so you could use it as you would Reason as a VST. Bounce in place is a glaring omission in Ableton; lack of step entry like Reaper, Ableton and FL is a glaring omission in Bitwig. Reaper's improving, but is short of Ableton and Bitwig's way of doing racks, esp with macros. Of the four, FL is the one I use the least. My main use for it is the synths and FX it comes with, which you can't use outside FL. So Generally i'll produce loops that I can then import into Reaper, Ableton, or Bitwig projects.
One particular example workflow wise was taking a 90s sample CD, where there are 99 tracks of audio, and the samples occur within those tracks, separated by silence, and the task is to turn that into a collection of audio loops like one would find with a modern sample pack. In Reaper this is dead straight forward, with a few custom actions and keyboard combos assigned for the purpose (e.g. \ takes me to the last transient in a selected clip, Shift-\ takes me to the first transient in a clip, Shift-A trims a clip to the time selection, Q sets the time selection to selected items, and a few others). Then you can select mass rename clips based on their track name (so I have one track per category), and then with the resulting 1200 individual clips, I can bounce them all to individual audio cllips with a single use of the render window. This would have taken me much longer with any of the other DAWs I have, prohibitively longer. On the other hand, for producing electronic tracks like trance and techno, Ableton and Bitwig have a nicer and less fiddly workflow. Swings and roundabouts and all that.
Im still using fl but I really hate about exporting stems and having only 125 mixer channels 🧐. Exporting stems is real headache .
Just Imagine what will happen if Ableton will start a sell campaign like this ...
For this month we offer 30% discount and free life updates for Ableton Live Suite if you prove that you own other DAW and want to switch to Ableton
😂🤣😂
No need to choose, you can have both or more.
Nice video!! Any daw is uniquein their way and the "daw wars" is stupid fr. As an fl user, im a big fan of ableton, and the new update overide some of the cons of the last update and add new good things!!
I used FL Studio for 15 years (since I was 9) and I switched to Ableton about 2 years ago now. For the longest time I thought I was just shit at mixing, everything I made sounded muddy and lofi, and when I did add highs it sounded crushed. After switching to Ableton, my mixing was like day/night and I didn't even change anything I was doing. People insist every DAW sounds the same, but it's just fundamentally disingenuous to pretend they all process/handle audio identically. Things in Ableton sound much brighter and hi-fi, less muddy. A lot of it has to do with the stock plugins, but it also has a lot to do with how it's coded compared to FL. Fl studio can be made to sound identical to Ableton, but I have to put some extra work in to make that happen. Not to mention the organization in Ableton, and speed (because every channel is it's own mixer channel, don't have to assign it) it's just superior to my workflow.
This is coming from someone who still considers FL to feel like home. I love FL Studio so much, and I hope to incorporate it into my workflow more in the future because of the creativity and my identity it has always allowed me to express.
😂
I mean ive used FL since god knows, never really had problem with mixing after about a year of researching why mixes sound like shit (unrelated to DAW) in general. (10 years ago)
FL doesnt automatically make your mixes sound like shit, its user error regardless of how you put it - but if ableton made that easier for you, who's going to flaunt you for that bro.
You say you didnt change anything but obviously you're not using maximus in ableton (provided you did in FL).
I use Izotope's tools to flatten my mix, then bring it into a new file where i process the audio as a WAV. works wonders for taking your mind off of producing and focusing purely on making your mix sound better. (imo)
Golden rule of Fl studio to get clean masters never use stock fx plugins they are so old and bad in any master or channel , which i hate about FL is cpu and ram hungry even plugins arent currently in use , Logic is only support mac os and 64bit vsts only so still pref Fl ,
Izotope rx 11 , ozone 11 , sonible bundle , waves complete and other fx bundes i use but they are cpu and ram hungry so having nice stock plugins always is good to go in other Daws
Honestly I work in fl studio because I’ve been working on it since fruity loops 3.5 !! And I can’t work in ableton but honestly who cares where you do your music ??? Is this really a convo??
word to big bird
Late to the party as usual but😊
Been hardcore FL for almost 2yrs & loving it ‘BUT!’ Outboarding and live tracking has me seriously seeing Live as the Go2. Only thing is, id run Live till the wheels fall off before going update junkie cuz $$$ aint got it like that period
i agree with the audio part too even nick uses Ableton for audio !! great vid spockk
I really wish FL had audio warping. So tedious to fix timing in FL
Also wish it had the built in transients feature.
there is newtime its available for Producer Edition or above . it is ok does work most of the time
5:06 isnt this fixed in live 12?
Oh yeah I guess it is.
The things that sold me on Ableton haven't even been mentioned here: Session View (the ultimate fun jam/happy accidents matrix) and being amazing with loops.
Fl studio is amazing for advanced productions it’s not a toy it’s not for simple beats
I actually switch from FL to Bitwig, Ableton's GUI looks dated and I hear it crashes alot.
Did it feel like a downgrade?
@@ericwarr9088 For my workflow, it was a huge upgrade, I can actually finish songs. I still like Fl for piano roll and how it handles automation. But Bitwig has a cleaner workflow for me.
Ya really .. Ableton is industry standard now.. but still both the daws dnt have ara 2 technology..
Industry "Pros" never used FL Studio to begin with. Of course there are some people, who were not pros, more like bedroom producers / rappers...who got famous (like Soulja Boy, Martin Garrix, Afrojack...) but FL Studio is not and will never be an industry standard, despite it's huge popularity amongst bedroom producers and new producers (easy to crack, large community, lots of tutorials, FL really got better overtime and there is almost nothing you can't achieve with it that most other DAWs do (almost)).
But the reality is a bit different when it comes to workflow and sharing files with others, mixing and mastering. And to be honest I've never seen a professional studio that runs on FL Studio. And there are a lot of logical reasons for that. And the reality is most of the producers who started on FL eventually changed for something else (doesn't mean they completely stopped using FL but it's just easier on so many levels to use industry standards).
I didn't start music with FL but I used it daily for a while and it's an amazing piece of software. If people are comfortable using it and feel their workflow is great, keep doing that.
But that's not what I use for professional projects for many reasons I mentioned above and you mentioned in the video.
There is no comparison between Ableton/Bitwig/Logic and FL studio to me and many things are just easier and faster to do on these software without tweaking things to reach the same results on FL...
And I agree, modulation is just the cherry on top...I could t go back to FL just for that reason only!
Many people who made the switch almost instantly understand the difference and how easier it makes life going forward especially if you work in a pro environment. I remember Deadmau5 joked about that but he was very very true.
Which doesn't mean people shouldn't use FL. I think they should be fluent in many DAWs actually. My favorite DAWs are the ones I mentioned before : Bitwig and Logic. Hands down. I use Ableton sometimes and Bitwig is similar to Ableton in many ways, even tho Bitwig is much better than Ableton and it's been elected best DAW last December by Music Radar.
an ABSOLUTE banger of a video! I also find myself asking this question "should I switch to Ablelton?" I think I'll stick to my roots! (My name is also Nick btw)
appreciate it nick! yep, just stick to whichever one you like to use. simple as that lol.
try learning all the hotkeys of fl and features they have an the majority of work flow stopers wont be a problem oh btw your youing fl in a slow way since youdont know how to taller fl studio multi work flow which is why a lot of people who arnt power user or real power users meaning that they know fl inside out or close to inside out say fl studio seems unorganized well different styls of music calls for different work flows whice brings me to my next point also i lot of people making tutrs dont know these things do to inexperience with fl studios featur rich system whice only makes it harder for the average person to learn/adopt the proper work flow process for they're work flow i have a live stream video i vaulted since i havent gotten around to editing it but i go over how to speed up your work flow and i explained exactly why you would want to do what your doing in the way pertaining to your use case
Yeah this makes sense! I am much more experienced in Ableton than FL. I hope I didn't come across like I was hating on FL as that wasn't my intention. Just wanted to point out some differences in workflows and some features I find useful in each DAW. Appreciate the comment bro
nhh it was a good video still one of my student has ablation and this help to point out stuff in ablation that i can help my students with
@@Tonetreat
I just think Ableton looks to ugly to switch lol, & im unreal with FL.. Should host a Ableton vs FL beat battle
Everyone should switch to Ableton.
based
No, we are switching from ProTools to Ableton.
(lol, I am because I am not a large scale producer yet. ProTools is just not solo artist friendly.)
How has no one mentioned that FL just flat out sounds better?
i swiched
I've gotten to work with both, and I stick to FL studio because I am faster with it, specifically because I know the workflows that work best for me.
A couple of things just to defend the fruity software a bit
1- I produce an idea using different patterns. I will make a full idea in a single pattern, make clones, then I split specifically to add more variation later. Ableton is 100% better for this, but FL has a workflow that isnt terrible.
2- Routing- Just use templates. Bus everything out. It actually makes shit SOOO much faster. Just like having ableton templates for groups. Same idea, just different layout.
3- You can make the clips unique, and there are ways to make the automations faster. Ableton is better regardless, but again just workflow diff.
Love all DAWs
Great take. Yeah all DAW's have pro's and con's. For my workflow currently Ableton works best most of the time. Still love learning and using other DAW's!
woah that automation situation in FL is a deal breaker. serious difficult. in the end ableton is german engineering and you can feel it.
ay no way spock has a channel now wtf??
everything about ableton is great until you start writing melodies.. its too much work they need to work on their piano roll
ive literally used like 5 daws
man i love spocky
thank u :)
Reason 12
interesting
Not for Rap, HipHop or RnB music!!! Reason bass sounds and low-end are muddy as hell! You have to be an engineer to get this muddy out of the low end. While FL Studio and MPC have great sounds out of the box, The MPC and software win hands down. The MPC mixing presets for effects alone will get you 99.9% of the way there, even with the shitty UI. But I like Reason for fun and trying ideas.
@@WizardOfAILand interesting.
Effects Racks in Ableton...
Game over !
Is this Spock?
yes hi
FL is a minefield of unnecessary faffing around at times - for instance, how hard can it be to save entire mixing settings in one fell swoop so you can load that mixer into a previous FL file? It's no good loading it up one mixer channel at a time. Ridiculous. And don't even mention 'export bare bones' - Really? And then load up every data file into every single pattern after loading up every instrument and then the automation files which never seem to work. Insane. Drag channel buttons into a group instead of having to 'write' them in. And crossfades by simply dragging either end of the clip? How long did it take them to put those in? The constant swapping of tools to perform simple tasks, having to position the cursor on top of the time line to mouse-wheel it bigger, the bizarre use of language in the menus (I think the devs are Belgian which might explain it.....) The saving grace of FL Studio is the piano roll which makes programming things really easy - so long as you don't want any pitch-bender info to move with the notes when you reposition them LMFAO.... Cackhanded DAW but useful. Not so much a single tool but a big box full of useful tools seemingly thrown in at random. if you've got the time to rummage around to find the one you want you might get lucky. FL is a glorified sequencer with some great synths. As an audio recorder you are basically eating soup with a fork.
You really need a pop filter.
yep lol
I’m new to Ableton and first thing I was looking for was the sequencer and was disappointed it didn’t have one. Major L
it does
SPOCK!
FL is not a DAW. Ableton live is not a DAW either but it is better. If anyone wants to argure the point allow me to say, Ableton live is a timestreaching stereo effect utility that takes all signals and converts them to a 32bit floating point calculation and does everything it can IN REAL TIME. It is a performance tool that rocks at producion. It is awesone but it is not a DAW because if you have 100 mono tracks you are still processing it as stereo.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
it seems you the only one that understand what you saying
@@charlesalison5854 oh, I love bringing it up at parties with people that are into music production and I have two years of studio experience and been to two different schools for both production and composition/theory.
They don’t even know how to pronounce Timbre.
Miss you spock
I started with Fl Studio after trying to learn Ableton in 6 Years, now that i know Ableton i know that is pretty much a Waste of time, Fl Studio is Way better in any sense, I make Pretty Much any Genre and my Workflow is really Fast, and Yeah when i use Ableton everything dosn't make sense, is Shit, but Give me a Mouse a Keyboard and Fl And everythig sounds Crazy.
first :)
Fl is my best even after accessing Ableton. Sorry.
pretty disappointing to see your take on FL Studio. you haven't used it much and it shows, about half of the issues you mentioned were not applicable (such as you taking the long, tedious route to automation and routing). if you'd spent a few more weeks on it you would have undoubtedly found the better, quicker way to the issues you had
I didn't want to sit here and type 47 paragraphs but you hit the nail on the head. I've used FL Studios for about 10 years now and everything mentioned as a CON I can do in 1 click or have already automated to a template. You can do SO much that your average user will prob never take the time to understand just how deep and elaborate FL is. At the same time, it can seem tedious to do small things when in reality there are huge shortcuts or ways to get things done just as fast. I know he didn't make FL seem bad as a DAW but even the comments on here are all biased towards Ableton and honestly, I've tried it and I just hate the way it looks lol. That's about it though. Anyways. Just want people to know that if they're considering FL studios, you WILL and CAN do everything the same as Ableton and it's just as easy as too.
ableton all day