why i switched from logic pro to ABLETON!!!
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Looking forward to your tutorial videos Hunter!!
Both Logic Pro and Ableton Live are excellent DAWs in their own right but the difference IMO is the FUN factor. Ableton + Push is just an amazing inspiring combination that just begs for spontaneous jamming and idea generation. It's just a happy accidents generator.
Agreed 100%
..it's all about what inspires you...ableton does not have custom key commands but its great with session view, but logic is phenomenal...I like cubase 13 also but Logic is my go to for the past 12 years...regards @@Yhuntermusic
that's exactly the thing... I know Logic is such a great DAW across the board and after 1.5 years (and watching pros like Hunter using it) I know my way around it pretty well. But for some reason it still feels so uninspiring to me to work in it most of the time.
Agreed!
Yeah it’s definitely a personal preference thing. I’ve learned from many studio sessions even with some notables that it’s all about how you can work around your weapon of choice as Hunter stated. Good video as always👍🏽 God bless bro, Yaahn
Yo I appreciate it and blessings back at ya!
6:50 You can also do that in logic by pressing control and adjust the region's length.
And you can quantize in the inspector or editor.
You’re absolutely right! And it’s easier to do in Logic as well! I just don’t like the artifacts of Logics warping… Same thing with Logics Flex Pitch, convenient but sounds bad..
Welcome to the family! You’re gonna love Ableton bro… I mean you know it looks like you’ve already got it figured out… I’ve been rocking it for 10 years dude I’ll never look back. I might have to Rock some other side DAW but I’m staying with Ableton regardless.
Bless Up 🙏🏼
Really appreciate it and blessings back at ya!
Thanks for the video bro, as I am still teaching myself and learning music production these videos are very helpful. I will be locked in because I am a Ableton user myself. 🙏🏽
Thanks for tuning in! Glad you're getting value!
Great information on Ableton can’t wait for you for you to do a video on the secret/hidden sounds!!!
Thanks for tuning in! I’ll be digging for them!
I just switched to Ableton from FL and loving it so far. Finally getting the groove of Ableton.
That's wasup and respect to FL too!
The Man!!! Thanks as alwys🎉
Thanks a lot for tuning in!!
Love the smooth Roy Hargrove remix in the background
I just came across your music over a year. I love the style you carry and give thanks for being an awesome inspiration to veteran djs/new producers such as myself! Keep putting out those classic like you do, bro!
Means a lot! Blessings!
Wow, im still fairly new to all of this. I have been using Logic for a while now, but this looks like the exact thing i need!
Oh yeah Ableton is a piece of work!
I feel you! After using LP for 13 years, I’ve been flirting heavy with Ableton for the past two years lol Keep shining bro! Your content and music is blessing many 🙏🏿🔥
"How you doin, Ableton?" LOL! Thanks a lot fr fr!
I love the atudio setup. I been thinking about switching from Logic to Ableton but im still on the fence.
I just love the GUI of Logic Pro.
Thanks a lot and yes! Logic does have a better GUI (plugins GUI too).. I think you really have to dig into Ableton to see its strengths to really make a decision! Cheat code (you don’t have to choose just one 😎)
Studio's looking beautiful
Thank you!
Love this man. Your beats are always so tasteful. Any tips on where to look/learn your style of keys? Wondering if there are any courses etc 😊
Thanks a lot! Check out my man Stefan Guy: www.youtube.com/@stefanguy He's got some good keys tutorials!
@@Yhuntermusic Amazing. Thank you 🙏🏻
The way you explain this let’s me know my knowledge is more then what I thought it was!!! The way tracked in arrangement mode and put in the cells is the way track!!! Thank for this!!👊🏾
Yo yo glad you got some value fr fr!!
@@Yhuntermusic alway bro!!!RT👊🏾
The new space is looking crazy! 🙌🏾 So inspired by all that you’re doing bro! I need that DJ FX Rack tho.. 😂🙌🏾
My bro!! Thanks a lot!! Got you!!
Yess sirrrrr!🔥
GP!!! Thanks a lot guys!!
Me too. I switched 3 years ago and never looked back. I still mix in Protools but all my music is done in Ableton. Logic feels so ancient now when I use it even with the update.
That's wasup! I still use PT for mixing clients records but I do my personal stuff in Ableton. I agree 100% about LP...
That’s Hunter!
Congrats I switched too about a year ago
I switched from Ableton to Logic. Both are dope.
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
I have S1 Logic, MPC, Maschine and Ableton with Push 2. Ableton and Push 2 still my Go To out of all of those. I like the way my drums sound out of the MPC though. BTW I'm digging the look of your videos, very nice.
That's wasup and I feel you on the MPC! Really appreciate it!
I’ve been using Logic for 10+ years. I’ve dabbled in Ableton a couple times. Mainly for the warp tool but mixing imo is so much easier in Logic. I’ve tried but just can’t leave Logic 😫
Completely understand that! Glad you're doing what works best for you!
Plus it has a beautiful score editor… not that it matters to most of people..
@@VDJ4500 Also true!
Logic Gang! 😂 I started in a linear fashion and not on the MPC so everything else feels weird to me. Keep bringing the heaterz bruh!
🤣 my dude! Thanks a lot!
Yeah 👍👍 now you rocking
Aye lets go!!
Currently waiting for the Push 3 upgrade kit. I purchased the tethered version. Upgrade kit out in the next few weeks according to Ableton.
Interesting! How do you like the Push 3?
@@Yhuntermusic Unfortunately not using it as much as I'd like because it's tethered but as soon as I get the upgrade kit, I can just turn it on for a jam, exclusively without anything else. It's a great device though, the rotary knobs with 'press' function to select, very cool. On screen Session View too (so you can see your clips in the display, and even scroll down the window if you have multiple lanes).
@@Johnnyjawbone Gotcha!!! Keep me posted about the upgraded kit!
I been using logic for 10 years and I love it and always wanted more flexibility when it came to stretching but then flex mode came out in logic and I actually like it more than ableton sometimes. But I just bought ableton and while it still slows my creativity down occasionally, I know it’ll be worth it in the long run once I figure it all out.. Can’t wait till March 5 and all the new features.
Lovely Studio SetUp 🍍🍍🌏 Do You Mix Vocals On Ableton too ?
Im interested to know how you do your quantization the swings and drums while doing big gospel arrangements Yaahn hunter
I rarely quantize anymore… if I do, it’s very minimal. Quantize shortcuts: “Command U” “Shift Command U”. I’m not doing big Gospel arrangements anymore… I’m mainly doing Chill Music, Hip-Hop and R&B. However it’s VERY possible to do big arrangements in Ableton as well!
Wooow thank you so much i did'nt know if you would reply my text thank you for being humble..
Wonderful video. What are you using to trigger the repeats on the Arturia controller?
Ableton's stock beat repeat plugin! I built a massive effects rack
Thanks! @@Yhuntermusic
your setup looks insane bro
Thank you!!
Three questions: one can you do a Dj tutorials? secondly people often say the mpc is the only thing that gives you that classic swing, yet I hear you doing it on the Ableton. Are they one and the same as far as best making, sonically? Secondly, do you use any analog synths or workstations? If not what makes you opt for a midi setup of audio/ analog, real instruments? Thanks bro
1. For sure!
2. So the mpc has a different quantizing system.. Back in the day, the tech wasn't as "accurate" which led to the unique "swing". I'm more so relying on my natural "feel" without quantizing perfectly to the grid.
3. I'm using VST's right now because they are really good capturing the vintage vibes. However, I do plan on building up my analog synths!
I haven’t use Ableton since Live 6 in’ 06 before switching to Logic Express 7, but that Push does look tempting.
A lot has changed since then! The push is chefs kiss 🙏🏾
I love this, i have been an Ableton user also. do you now prefer to mix on Ableton or Pro-tools?
Nice man! I prefer to mix clients records in Pro Tools for sure! I'll be mixing my personal music in Ableton though.
Damn you are 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks a lot 🙏🏾🙏🏾
I've recently switched from 12 yeares with ableton over to bitwig and loving it
Bitwig is FIRE!
To anyone reading this : what's the best DAW out of these 2 for
-mixing
-mastering
-film scoring
If yall got time to explain your reasoning
logic has better/diverse stock plugins than ableton and also has a built in mastering assistant,
You can also record your performance into the arranger view in real time
Big time! I’ll be doing this live soon!
LOVE YOUR STUFF BRO. Will your Logic plug ins still work with Ableton??
Thanks a lot! They won't BUT, I'll be making packs for Ableton for sure
@@Yhuntermusic oh I didnt see you replied. forget my comment on your recent video. Thanks bro I'll be looking forward to those. Hopefully they drop soon.
do you still have access to the Logic stock sounds in Ableton??. Do you like the actual stock sounds in Ableton??. I see you playing with the effects but do the sounds by themselves stand up to the sounds from Logic??.Should people buy the Suite for bread & butter sounds or is it not needed??.
So I don't even use stock sounds anymore... I mainly use 3rd party or analog sounds (my drum kit, piano etc...). This allows me to technically use any DAW (that has a sampler). I chose Ableton for its advanced production/performance tools. I wouldn't buy Ableton ONLY for sounds..
I enjoy playing my Native American Flute to your music!! It's a mesmerizing sound. i wish i was under you wing🎵
Thank you very much!
@@Yhuntermusic i don't have song of my own to produce yet, but I'm hoping i can play for you and share this Wonderful sound (this flute using your music), not selling or anything. just would like to share the new language I've been empowered with😊🙏😊
Playing tunes to my artwork
You could also press one button on the Push and you initial idea would magically appear in the track at 1:55 :) Cause ableton is listening. That was one of the treats of 11.
Thats right! The capture button!!!
Whats the name of the bass you used and how can i get it? 2:54
Coming soon!!
Ableton was the first DAW I ever used back in 05 I gotta love for it But my main go to is reason now but Ableton is still amazing
Yo that's wasup!!
Could u possibly give a link to the DJ rack setup u made?
It’ll be available on my website soon!
...can you do this exactly the same in logic or am i wrong? the warp and quantize..?🙄
Not “exactly”. Yes you can warp (flex) but Logic doesn’t offer the advanced editing tools after warping (flexing). Secondly, the warping audio quality remains pure in Ableton while Logic introduces artifacts that are not pleasing.
Yeah like me, and after 10 month , i go back to logic pro,
I been a ableton user since 2017; in my opinion its more user friendly than any other DAW I ran across.
Facts!!
My husband just gifted me Logic Pro X almost a year ago. Just barely scraping the surface and was following your videos for less than a week only to find out that you have moved on. Should be upset but no, just gives me something to look forward to in the future while still learning Logic. BTW-hubby has Ableton too.😉
Oh nice!! Logic is phenomenal!! Yeah I did switch due to my Artist career taking off! I'm still leaving up all of my LPX videos though!
I'm glad Live works for you Mac guys. On a PC, I get snap, crackles and pops constantly no matter the latency. For the curious, I run a i9 12900k, 32gb with a RME babyface pro.
Its a specs issue. Doesnt matter what the software is. The processor is key. Ram 2nd
@@warrenroberts1912 I think my specs are pretty good. Reaper and even Cubase runs flawlessly on my PC.
Gotta update or reinstall ableton
@@billyeibel5287 yep tried that too. Maybe it’s time for a Mac
@V12_smoke check your system drivers and windows update.
Where can I get that Bass patch?
Coming real soon!
What are using for the drum pad?
Ableton Push 2 and Arturia MiniLab MK2
Where can I get your bass patches
Yhuntermusic.com 🙏🏾
FACTS,...
PLEASE KEEP DOING VIDEO ON ABLETON, as u did with logic.
Yo definitely!!!
I've been suffering system overload in logic way too much 😢
Can you do this in logic with the push device?
Unfortunately not
@@Yhuntermusic man that’s unfortunate because the royalty free playing samples and WAVS in Logic library is second to none.
@@lovelymusicnow4404 You can actually link Logic to Ableton though! Look into that!
@@Yhuntermusic Interesting, I’ll definitely 👍🏽 look into that. I have 4 or more terabytes of Vst’s, NI Libs and a ton of custom Kontakt Libs but I love the analogue sound a lot of the Logic Pro X samples have.
Thanks bro!👊🏽
I guess its just something about Logic that people feel its lacking because everyone on youtube that uses Logic tends to do away with Logic and go to either FL or Ableton.
Logic is fire! Some people are just intrigued with the more modern features of FL, Ableton, Bitwig etc
Kno a few Maschine X Logic users who left Logic bcoz they didn't feel like Logic played well enough with Maschine, Plus only Supporting AU Plugin format is kinda dumb anyways..
Hi Nelly I love logic and garage band but my biggest issues is they mac computer but refuse to not make any hardware for Logic Pro is just stupid. One thing I find frustrating about logic is how certain hardware just doesn’t consistent’y work and play friendly. This makes creating frustrating especially when you have a crash and lose stuff that ddin’t save. Even after all these yeast iam eyeing Ableton and FL because Apple jsut doesn;t seem to invested in really turning logic pro😅 into a proper pro daw outside of software. Hardware isnt everything but I think it’s just such a huge omission that I can imagine is making them lose customers over the long period. But I could be wrong but it just such a huge void.
I made the switch from another DAW to A leton about a month ago
Nice! Keep me posted on your journey!
Basslines king? lol they just make me smile like a little kid...lol dope
Yo thanks a lot!!
I did the same about almost 3 years ago
I see why!
Had to see this video lol. I hope you don't do it like you did us Studio One folks lmao. Big ups for sticking with Logic for this long. I discovered logic during 8.0 and worked in it for the duration of 9.0 right before X came out. Thats when I switched to Studio One3.0. The rest was history.
😂 S1 was a terrible mistake JKJK! But in all seriousness, I actually took my time and learned (learning) Ableton. I’ve been in here since May! I’m here to stay fr fr 🙏🏾
lo-key im a Ableton Live user myself lol. I'm on the public beta list for 12. Yes indeed.
@@Yhuntermusic Ableton is pretty solid my guy. You in the right place.
I'm waiting on the comeback video as ua usual. 😅😅😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Thanos: no more resurrections this time LOL!!
@Yhuntermusic Good luck bro, I hope to do the same with cubase
@@mickaeljobert9127 Thanks a lot and you as well!
@@mickaeljobert9127what are you trying to do with Cubase?
Yaahn jr is clearly a musical scientists. Yaahn jr thank you, for being so generous with complex information.
Your music sounds great.❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
My man! Thanks for tuning in!
Avid Logic Pro user!! See what you did there. 😂😂😂. RocknRoll
LOL!! Nice one!!
I’m about to try ableton right now
Aye let me know what you think!
@@Yhuntermusic alright
Ableton Live Lite is very powerful on it's own
Why not just have/leave auto warp on? You can in the preferences. Saves a grip of time.
Auto warp doesn’t always work properly from my experience… Depends on the scenario
@@Yhuntermusic Just a suggestion. Set the 'Loop/warp short samples' to Warped Loop. Auto-Warp Long Samples to 'on' (Ableton's last update made this better than ever). Set the default warp mode to 'complex'.
It'll be way quicker to turn off the warp from the clip rather than clicking it on, and shift dragging.
Ok bet! Definitely will give it a shot. Thanks a lot for sharing 🙏🏾
Well now who do I go to for my logic pro tuts?
Plenty of LP content in the playlist here: ruclips.net/p/PLTIXoUZtTrveuU85Fa1r-NcSeUbwiq8we
@@Yhuntermusic I'm glad you didn't delete it because this would help me to be able to make these kinds of music, but to be able to improve my skills on writing worship music
I love Logic but its lacking when it comes to producing. It's time consuming when you're doing drums but its really good for recording/mixing.
Facts fr fr!!
You can easily access your 3rd party drums inside Alchemy
LPX is my go 2 for making beats, and i like the workflow, but there's always room for improvement. Also, i just upgraded to Logic 10.8 ands its fire
Nice!
That upgrade is amazing!! 🔥🔥
@victoriaclarke yep, also LPX is a great Daw, but it's being overlooked
@@elfromthabay1989 I wouldn't say it's overlooked.. A lot of people started out in LP and moved to other DAWs that offer more things outside of traditional recording. FL, Ableton, Bitwig (and many others) are bringing a lot more to the table while LP remains stagnant.
@Yhuntermusic ,
So basically, they don't wanna grow. Sooner or later, they'll have them features that other daws offer, but logic is getting a lot better
❤❤❤🎉
Bro has used every DAW 😂 found him when he was on studio one, stayed cuz he gems are universal and his beats just hit that vibe. Stay blessed shout out to management 🙌🏿
I had to myself LOL! Yo I appreciate it!
Avee mcree turned me on to this channel. Hunter is not a beat maker. He is a musician that makes beats. This cat gives madd inspirational energy.
will you still do logic tutorials?
Unfortunately not BUT! Here's a MASSIVE LP Tutorial playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLTIXoUZtTrveuU85Fa1r-NcSeUbwiq8we
@@Yhuntermusic ok thanks. Your channel has really helped me grow as a producer
When will the DAW wars end!! LOL! Still rocking with you Bro, just don't delete all your Logic stuff 😉
LMBO! I won't delete them vids.. They are still helping so many people!
This …I just started watching your logic videos and your tutorials are awesome
I’m not going to lie I saw this and was like noooo now I feel left behind …jk
I tried the lite version of ableton when I got my MPC and im so used to logic it was too big a change for me
Esthetically for the most part I just wish it was nicer to look at if that makes sense
It’s visually not appealing to me
I did find out you can change it to dark mode which was better lol
Can I ask why you mix in protools?
Is it not a good idea to mix in logic?
@@glitchmatrix666 Yeah things have definitely changed over here lol. Pro Tools has the best "Sound" and Mixing Workflow. Probably the best, audio editor in the game as well. You can absolutely mix in Logic Pro!!! Use what works best for you! Time and money are key so make the most of it! Which is why I moved over to Ableton - to Produce, Mix, Master & Perform all in once place
I switched from ableton to logic and they do the same and logic have more sounds
Nice!!!! Logic has some fire sounds fr fr!!!
Why not just run them both in rewire then you have the best of both worlds ?
Not a bad idea at all! Just won’t work for me..
im still not moving from my mpc.
Right on!
Don’t worry he’ll be back on logic in a few months lol
LOL! Not this time my man..
😆🤣😂
Ableton got dat Akai MPC interface
Crazy!
We lost one 😖
Sorry bro 🤣🙏🏾
3 months later “why I switch back to logic”😅❤
I'll convert you to Ableton before I switch back LOL!!!!!!!
Have fun paying for upgrades 😂
Man, God is good. I'm literally considering switching from logic to ableton specifically for performance.
All the time! That's wasup!
It’s about time too, as you can’t get better in my opinion!
Welcome
well I guess I'll have to throw this Fender away and get myself a Gibson so I can become a better guitar player - something Jimi Hendrix never said.
Powerful….
@@Yhuntermusic 😂
Logic can do all of this tho 🤷🏾♂️
Not “all” 🙏🏾
@@Yhuntermusic the loop feature I believe so because I made beats and arrange songs like That before. I don’t have a midi controller but during the remix plugin and beat breaker plugin I can get all of this done. If I’m mistaken my bad then
@@Lifeisripe Better way to look at it is “similar” but not “all”. Logic doesn’t have a designated controller (from Apple) that allows you to control it.
You can’t create Effect Racks and assign custom effects to a macro knobs. Beatbreaker is dope but it’s not the “equivalent”.
There’s a lot more I could list but the last thing I’ll conclude with is: Logic is NOT a performance tool. Ask people who’ve tried it and encountered crashes 🙏🏾
That's a big reason I SWITCHED to Bitwig and Ableton, the WORKFLOW!
I feel you on that!
I feel like they may sponsor you but the workflow is better for paid musicians that need to work quickly and have a higher level of expertise.
Also, if you are using a Beta version its impossible to advertise for the product because its not public.
Yo right on!
I'll stick with Logic
Right on
Its bit slow workflow there, otherwise cpu wise its better and stock sounds are very good indeed
Sorry I'm very upset with the switch.
Sorry to hear that
hopefully you can upgrade too
Logic Pro 11 ha ha ha
Infidelity! You cheated …on your beloved baby boo, Logic! 😤😉
LMBO!!!
Now its time to switch to Bitwig lol
I just peeped a video on Bitwig yesterday! Kinduh crazy! Especially the “audio midi hybrid tracks” 😨😮💨
@@Yhuntermusic i really love their totally sick modulators system
@@potsandjacks Thanks a lot!
Welcome to the dark side
Aye lets go!