I use both, the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 and the SEL35F18 at my A6000 and I can confirm what many others here are saying: The Sigma is much sharper at wide open aperture. Unfortunately this test doesn't show that. Even at f/1.4 the Sigma is brilliant in the center, while the Sony is much softer at f/1.8. You have to stop down the Sony to f/2.8 to have the same sharpness. So if you want to have high extraction with high sharpness for brilliant portraits, the Sigma will give you better results. The only big advantage of the Sony is the size. But to be honest, if I had to use f/2.8 instead of f/1.4 for the same sharpness, I would go for the Sigma and accept the 3cm longer lens. There is a well known F2.0-autofocus-bug of the Sigma lens. AF-S is not working properly between f/1.7 and f/2.0 when using PAL (f/1.4 is fine). When using NTFC the problem is between f/1.4 and f/1.7. That's why many US users don't recognize that there is a problem but just think that the lens is not so sharp at open aperture. But it's a bug which Sigma knows well (they don't have a solution yet). Solution: The problem is completely gone if you use AF-C. Then the lens is also very sharp at open aperture. If you want to use focus and recompose, there are some tricks you can do to make it work with AF-C (back button focus or using one button as AF/ manual focus switch).
Your comments were actually better then the video to me :) I was considering both lens and using in a A6500 i won't miss the OSS and i assume also because the focus system on the A6500 is amazing that more shots would be usable and not only 70% then again that i can only know after i try :)
I had both of these in my hand just yesterday (thanks to Hunts in Cambridge MA for getting them for me to look at) and the size difference made it a no-brainer. To me, the whole idea of the 6000 is the size. The Sony lens keeps the package small. The Sigma lens is more than twice as large. Just not what I wanted.
Interesting. I have the a6000 and the Sigma lens and I love it. I only do photography and I am blown away with the sharpness of the lens and it has quickly become my go to for walkabout photography.
Hey Paul, since you have one, i wanna ask is it true that the barrel distortion is not applied in camera as explained by this video? Or is it able to correct the distortion by activating the correction from the lens menu as suggested by Sigma? Thanks.
I don't find much in the way of barrel distortion but I initially process in Lightroom which removes any distortion anyway. It's a great lens and I will be getting the 19mm and 60mm to go with it.
I had been torn between these two lenses, and thanks to you. I purchased Sigma 30mm. So far I love it. I am experiencing occasional freeze (or hang) when using touch focus with a5100, but it is manageable. Thanks for your great content!
I've had the Sony 35mm 1.8 for awhile and love it. Thinking that the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, I was going to purchase the Sigma. Thank you for saving me $300+! Compactness, native focusing speed and OSS, yep. Thanks!
Since the testing description was silent on this issue, please be sure to confirm that you were either testing autofocus accuracy while on a tripod on a fixed object or that you were using AF-C. Why? There is a measurable difference in depth of field between F1.4 and F1.8, especially when the subject is closer to the lens. Any minor swaying will cause the image to come out as soft or not as sharp. This is especially true when shooting portraits at F1.4. You need to nail focus on the eye (notice that I said singular) and you just won't be able to do so with any consistency if shooting in AF-S. A lot of the complaints about focusing accuracy stem from this lack of understanding of wide aperture lenses. Most people can get away to some degree with sloppy technique with wider angle F1.8 lenses, that just won't get you through the day at F1.4.
I am UK based, and left for my holiday home in Europe, taking with just my a6000 and Sony F4/18-105 G.. Amongst others, I left behind my super A mount Sal35f14G, as with the LA-EA4 attached its to darn heavy. So here I am away from home and need to make a short break to Boston MA. Wanting to travel light, taking the bulk of my 18-105 is a non starter. So I hunt around, and find two of your videos that impressed me. Now thanks to your videos I have a Sony 35mm F/1.8 winging its way from Amazon Germany, and I am truly happy. So happy, that I had no hesitation in subscribing to your TechnologyMafia site.
It would be great if you could do a follow up now that 1) you have an A6500 with IBIS and 2) the Sigma has had a firmware update that is supposed to minimise manual focus/AF issues. I'm tossing up which one to buy to use for mostly photos (portrait and street photography), but some video as well. With an A6500, the lack of OSS in the Sigma might not be an issue at all and it appears to be a better lens apart from that.
Love this!! I got the Sigma last year and wasn’t sure how well it’d compare to the Sony which is quite a bit more (price wise.) Glad I went with the Sigma as I like the colors more in this video. :) great comparison.
Hmm... I have the Sigma and on both of my a6300's I can use the in camera corrections to get rid of the barrel distortion. Works on my 16mm Sigma as well. You shouldn't need some 3rd party software to do this. Perhaps you're working on an older firmware? However, there are no firmware updates for the 16mm and it works.
The Sigma 30mm f1.4 suffers from too much annoying AF noise. Also, it displays excessive chromatic aberration. Returned it and purchased the Sony 35mm f1.8 and am very satisfied with it.
Another great video, love your videos. I also have a A6000 that i bought in 2nd hand with 16-50mm kit lens, with around 2000 shots for about 350$. In the past i had 5 DSLR´s. But now with the A6000 it is absolutely awesome, the size, the performance and the aids to help manual focusing those awesome legacy lenses, simply astonishing. I´m in love with it. Keep up with the good work :)
@@ariqkamil571 The previous owner probably gave the number of shots taken up to that point, from checking the SD card originally used. For instance, I've had my a6300 for about a month and this is the last file on it: DSC00832.ARW (a RAW file, I generally shoot RAW+JPEG). See the last three numbers? That's 832 shots total.
@@AlexRamosDrTaz That's not the most accurate way to know the shutter count. There are various sites that allow you to upload a RAW file and their software analyses the metadata embedded in the file and will give you an accurate shutter count. Google.
Dear Sir Arthur: I want to thank you very much for the content that you have been uploading to the network. It has been incredible how every doubt I had turns out that you had done a study work on it. You are very honest, natural and objective. You express yourself very well. I love that you consider the ratio of size, weight, comfort and simplicity in each comparison. You have helped me a lot to save money and not be disappointed by a bad purchase. On the other hand, I also love that you continue to value the Alpha 6000 and that you do not get on the train that the latest of the latest is the best. Finally, you have a great collaborator in your wife and your videos would not be the same without her. Thanks a lot to both.
I just ordered the Sigma 30mm f1.4 for my a6500 on Amazon. I was between both lenses and this video helped me choose which to buy (and backs up what I read about both of them). I got my a6500 with the 18-135mm and while it is a great walk-around zoom, I want to really see what the sensor is capable of with a sharp prime lens.
Another fine video. I really appreciate your delivery, coverage and reviews. I am just restarting with the A6000 that I bought several years ago and am wanting to narrow it down to a couple travel take alongs
Great review! I'm looking to add to my camera bag, and want a wider lens. I have been using the 50mm Sony lens, and it works excellent for portraits but its super tight in a lot of situations when I'm in smaller spaces. I think I'll put the Sigma on my wish list :) I loved the warmer tones that the Sigma provides. Thanks!
Great videos! Would love to see more event style videos like you car show coverage. Seems like living abroad would provide some great opportunities for that.
Dude GREAT videos! love your work for its simplicity and straight up thoughts, specs, samples! I had all 3 best lenses around that focal range, the Sigma 30mm f2.8 EX DN, Sony 35mm f1.8 and the Sigma 30mm f1.4 DC DN C and compared them all...in the end I chose the Sigma 1.4 due to its sharpness and bokeh, for some reason my results where different, the sigma 1.4 obliterated the other two. Maybe its the sensor age/shots? I use my a6000 for stills only and have around 5k shots with it... peace out dude! keep on posting!
You are the guy i am looking for. Lavitaphotography made the exact conclusion. However i am still curious that which one is good for video? I already have Sigma 60mm f 2.8 for portrait.
the Sigma 60 is amazing. this 30 Too but I use the camera for stills. if you have one of those camera stabilizers magic thingamagingy sticks then go for one of these without a doubt. when it comes to video OSS or image stabilization is always a huge plus, but not a must. I love vintage lenses for video for example...it depends on the person and the main use of the camera. if you shoot primarily video then save up for the 6500 and worry never again no matter what lens you use. Peace!
Thanks for prompt reply Piero, 6500 is way too expensive for my budget as i am just an enthusiast photographer. I do stills and video on 60/40 ratio respectively. Considering your comment i might be considering sel 35 f1.8 with oss or fe 30 f2
I finally start to get the big picture. The Sigma lenses seem to be a dream and would love to have one, BUT I cannot tell you how AF sometimes super important is. Picture this: IF YOU have nephews or family you wish to photograph and CAPTURE THAT MOMENT, AF is sooooo important. I love vintage lenses and manual focusing, but coming back to the row above: until you focus or you wait for a slow lens to focus (AF), you would have lost so many nice moments and cute faces of your family members. See? It just depends WHAT you are shooting. There is NO perfect lens, out there, that is super fast, super sharp and super good in low light and with OSS on it, unfortunately. If you the guy who stays there with his tripod, lights up a cigar and shoots stars or landscapes or buildings, go for the Sigma. If you my guy, with crazy little bunnies hopping all over the place, go for the faster AF lens. Sony stands out pretty good, as well. Nobody will zoom 100%, 200% in your picture, to see if it is sharp. Nobody will see the less saturation (which, I like and you can anyways add more saturation in your picture profile in camera), BUT I do not want to stay and correct barrel distorsions. I want to send the pictures through wi-fi. And usually, my sister in law wants the pics copied on her HDD, as well, before we leave. So, I think I would go for the Sony...
I would love to see more low light tests as my main reason for buying the sigma would be the 1.4 f. I have the Sony 50mm 1.8 and it is great but for shots at weddings or dance halls I'm wondering if the 1.4 can get me to the point where I can get away with less flash photography.
in my country the sony 35mm and sigma brand new is the same price, while the 2nd hand market the sony 35mm is cheaper. I would totally go for sigma if wasnt for the pricing. I personally think with oss and small size is much simpler to carry
I am testing both lenses at the moment. Seems the Sigma is indeed the superior lens, BUT i find the AF to be better on the Sony. With moving subjects: kids, pets etc i found the Sony the better choice.
I think the golden combo would be a6500 zeiss24 1.8 and sigma 30 1.4 for a real 35 and 50 mm FF feeling :). Also would be interesting to know about if the IQ is not even better on the a6500 considering it has a better sensor mmmhhh..
Your videos are great and down to earth! I have the Sigma 19mm and because of this video I ordered the 30mm. I have been a Nikon guy for years but have been using the a6300 for awhile and love it.
your videos are very good, I especially like the portraits of your wife and the other picture they are so helpful in determining the quality of the lens
Watching in 2020. Thanks this helped me to decide on Sony 35mm f1.8 for my A6400. Returning my Sigma 30mm 1.4 healf heartedly because I picked it up for $230. Sadly I notice the lack of OSS even on my gimbal (webill lab).
I have been having focus problems with the 30mm f/1.4 Sigma on my A6500. Yesterday, I used that combination at ISO 320 giving me 1/250 second at f/5.6 to shoot a group of five people standing in a row outside. I used single shot, AFS, wide area with face detect turned on. The camera showed focus squares around several of the peoples faces but the focus would go in and out. It ended up with the row of subjects just ever so soft with the background more in focus. What do you think went wrong...
Hi arthur, thinking of getting the 35mm over the sigma 30mm. Do you still like the 35mm better? Does the 35mm create a shadow when using built in flash?
I have the sigma 30mm, for walking around town lens its a little big imo...however I took some shots of people on the street and the photos were impressive with the sigma...in my use case Im considering getting rid of the sigma 30mm and going with the sigma 56mm 1.4 and using it for portraits and some street photos and maybe pick up the 35mm sony later on...the size of the sony lens is very compelling for spending alot of time out and about , I hate bulky cameras and why I went with the sony A series
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on the spec sheet the sigma 30mm weights 9.3 oz (265g), while the sony 35mm weights 5.5 oz (154g). there is also a significant difference in length, 1.1 inch (28mm). I am considering the sony due to its size. I almost never use manual focus so... after all these years, would you still pick the sony ?
Great review, that were exactly my thoughts about the Sigma. As you said the Sony is better if you want to travel light weight. After this review I think I will also take the Sony
I am using Sony A6400 (no IBIS) but I have a weebill S gimbal, should i get the sony or the sigma lens? I mostly shoot travel videos and little bit of photography. The Sigma is a little bit more expensive by 30$ here in Singapore.
Good video, nice comparison. But please, whichever camera you're using to shoot these videos, put it in manual focus mode. The focus hunting is so distracting!
I would like to see how the older Sigma30f2.8 would compare to these two. From what I've read so far the 2.8 Sigma is better for landscape since it's sharper at infinity compared to Sony and the Sigma 1.4.
sigma's colors are far superior, but i didn't like how it performed in low light. I also like the smaller form factor of the Sony lense. many have also said that the autofocus in the sony's are far superior. What a tough decision.
So I’m stuck between the two. This will be my 1st prime lens and I’m a beginner so I don’t want to make a regretful decision. I like the Sony because of the size and of course the good images it produces. I guess I’m trying to “grow” on the Sony lens but ultimately it looks like the sigma gives you the crisper sharper image which is what I want. I like the fact that you have a lower Fstop number and can use a lower iso to get a better picture. But then I heard the lens doesn’t have OSS. Which dealing with a slow shutter to let more light in might cause camera shake which could make it harder to get that better picture. Now I don’t do video now but eventually that’s my goal I’m just doing photos for now but I don’t want to get the sigma but then regret not having oss but I want a really good picture!!! Help please!!!!
I bought the 35mm but I'm not satisfied about it's sharpness. It is behind my 35mm Nikon DX..... Could be a right choice to buy a Sigma 30mm? I own the 56mm and it's a very good lens....
I have the sigma, since I use it on an a6400 it doesn't focus well from f1.4 to f2.5, I've been thinking about buying the sigma again, but I don't want to risk the focus failing.
Sigma 30mm f/1.4 uses the Phase Detect auto-focus capabilities of the body/sensor only in the center rectangle of the rule of 3rds. Use the Sigma only in AFC (Auto Focus Continuous) Zone (that center rectangle). This way the focus speed and accuracy is as good as the Sony lenses (like the Zeiss 24mm f/1.8). The focus accuracy will get very close to 100%. Don't use the Sigma in AFC Wide as it may focus in the outside rectangles of the rule of 3rds where it switches to Contrast Detect and will start hunting for focus (taking maybe a full second to focus). Also, Sony Alpha 6500 can be configured to favor good focus instead of releasing the shutter as soon as possible ("Priority Set in AFC" to be set to "AF" instead of "Release"). This option is not present on a6000. The sharpness of Sigma 30mm f/1.4 is just awesome. Sigma is sharper at f/1.4 across the frame than the "Sony Zeiss 24mm f/1.8" is at f/2.8. Take a look at www.dpreview.com/reviews/lens-compare-fullscreen?compare=true&lensId=sigma_30_1p4_dc_dn_c&cameraId=sony_nex7&version=0&fl=30&av=1.4&view=mtf-ca&lensId2=sony_e_24_1p8&cameraId2=sony_nex7&version2=0&fl2=24&av2=1.8 Sony Zeiss 24mm is much softer at f/1.8 than the Sigma at f/1.4 which is a shame considering the Sony's $1100 price tag. Sigma 30mm f/1.4 is what I always have on the camera. Sony Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 just sits there in a corner of the room and collects dust. a6500 at ISO 6400 gets the same image quality as a6000 at ISO 3200. Adding the f/1.4 from the Sigma, you can get a low light monster in the form of a small and light form-factor. Which is awesome.
Good video, mate. I bought the 35mm to be used with an a6000 as a walkaround lens, but returned it mostly due to 3 issues: 1) The 52.5mm focal length was way too much to be used in many scenarios. My main reason to return it. 2) Poor stabilization for video shooting, actually the worst I´ve tried in a long time, including those of cheap, compact cameras. 3) Perfectly audible noise while shooting videos indoors, quite probably stemmig from the OSS working 100% of the time. I´m now considering this Sigma to be used with the stabilized a6500, but I´m not sure about the focusing noises you mentioned. I wish you would´ve let us know how it sounds...
How can you compare how sharp an image is or how much grain the image has if you don't shoot at the same ISO. Change your shutter speed to achieve the same exposure but leave the ISO and f-stop the same.
Nice comparison video! It was well done and arranged nicely. I love my a6000 with the 35/F1.8 and 16-70/F4. Are you planning on getting the a6500 and doing a comparison?
The ISO settings were different (2500 vs 3200) when you compared the 'hotel parking' sign pictures for sharpness. Doesn't seem like a fair comparison, the higher ISO picture is predictably 'noisier' which will affect the sharpness of the picture taken with the Sony lens.
sharikmarius Right, that's part of what I was explaining. The camera adjusts ISO automatically in most modes, so if you are casually shooting, the Sigma lens will have lower ISO values, making it sharper.
I would love to have a sigma or 2. But if the price difference is significant (and also size), and the performance is close enough I would choose Sony. I'm new to these and not really as picky, just want to make some videos and take some pictures
Thanks for the review, I purchased sigma 30 mm lens very satisfied. I also have sigma 56 mm to shoot with my a6600 Sony. Any recommendations for a walk around telephoto lens?
Nice video. I would prefer that you match the field of view in doing comparison. Also, use a grey card to color correct. Then the comparison would be more fair and relevant to more people. Thanks!
Starting at about timeline 5.00, you state that you cannot explain the lack of grain with the Sony lens as conpared with the Sigma. One possible explanation "might be" that this Sigma is a bit sharper than the Sony (at least in this pair of images it looks that way) and thus the Sigma might be picking up the grain that the Sony is hiding...
Just a comment about this comparison, Sony lens vs Sigma, and I'm seen the same thing on your other Sony vs Sigma review: I think the sharpness, AND the color difference may both be from internal stay light flaring in the Sony. It definitely looks like internal lens flare to my eye. They're actually both resolving about the same (ignoring a few failures to focus), but colors on the Sony are very slightly washed-out and lower contrast than the Sigma, which is a clear indication of internal stray light. It could be better lens coatings by Sigma, or better non-reflective internal metal surfaces, or a little of both. In any case, good job Sigma! Now when are you going to make native E-Mount lenses? Especially for Sony full-frame bodies like my a9?
Just what i expected. Plus the Sony in Indonesian price is about the same as the Sigma so i'd get the Sony then. The bokeh quality isn't that much different as i look into your photo image, only brighter on the Sigma end, so not much reason to go Sigma anyway. Thanks for the review! PS: I wonder though, is it true the Sigma doesn't auto correct the barrel distortion in camera? Because if i need to do post editing everytime i shot with Sigma lens, it's very time consuming and unfortunate. I have read that Sigma already fixed the distortion with newer revision of their lens so which lens did you use? The old revision or the new?
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This is the only camera guy on yt where I dont get bored and switch videos. Hes so informative and straight to the point.
He shows pictures instead of filming himself.
Ya He doing good job!!
I agree 100%, super interesting to watch and listen to, and focuses on Sony compatible stuff which is a big plus for me.
And he doesn’t act like a dumbass.
You literally have every video that I'm looking for
I swear!! Everytime I need to look up a lens or camera, he got it
@@deejayfvse Same with me 😀
@@deejayfvse ha ha same here!
I use both, the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 and the SEL35F18 at my A6000 and I can confirm what many others here are saying: The Sigma is much sharper at wide open aperture. Unfortunately this test doesn't show that. Even at f/1.4 the Sigma is brilliant in the center, while the Sony is much softer at f/1.8. You have to stop down the Sony to f/2.8 to have the same sharpness. So if you want to have high extraction with high sharpness for brilliant portraits, the Sigma will give you better results.
The only big advantage of the Sony is the size. But to be honest, if I had to use f/2.8 instead of f/1.4 for the same sharpness, I would go for the Sigma and accept the 3cm longer lens.
There is a well known F2.0-autofocus-bug of the Sigma lens. AF-S is not working properly between f/1.7 and f/2.0 when using PAL (f/1.4 is fine). When using NTFC the problem is between f/1.4 and f/1.7. That's why many US users don't recognize that there is a problem but just think that the lens is not so sharp at open aperture. But it's a bug which Sigma knows well (they don't have a solution yet). Solution: The problem is completely gone if you use AF-C. Then the lens is also very sharp at open aperture. If you want to use focus and recompose, there are some tricks you can do to make it work with AF-C (back button focus or using one button as AF/ manual focus switch).
how about the autofocus?
I think you didn't read my whole comment. Open (unfold) it, I already described the autofocus situation.
Thank you for your comprehensive comment.
Thunderbird1337 how about video, what can you say about the performance between the 2? will the oss be a huge advantage?
Your comments were actually better then the video to me :) I was considering both lens and using in a A6500 i won't miss the OSS and i assume also because the focus system on the A6500 is amazing that more shots would be usable and not only 70% then again that i can only know after i try :)
I had both of these in my hand just yesterday (thanks to Hunts in Cambridge MA for getting them for me to look at) and the size difference made it a no-brainer. To me, the whole idea of the 6000 is the size. The Sony lens keeps the package small. The Sigma lens is more than twice as large. Just not what I wanted.
Why do you compare sharpness at ISO 1600??
Interesting. I have the a6000 and the Sigma lens and I love it. I only do photography and I am blown away with the sharpness of the lens and it has quickly become my go to for walkabout photography.
The same thing happens to me, it has become my ideal lens.
Hey Paul, since you have one, i wanna ask is it true that the barrel distortion is not applied in camera as explained by this video? Or is it able to correct the distortion by activating the correction from the lens menu as suggested by Sigma? Thanks.
I don't find much in the way of barrel distortion but I initially process in Lightroom which removes any distortion anyway. It's a great lens and I will be getting the 19mm and 60mm to go with it.
get it! I purchased the 19mm f2.8 EX DN (old model) and the newer 60mm f2.8 Art version and LOVE them !!! best lenses IMO
Paul McQueen thanks but what i was asking is, does the JPEG auto correct the distortion or not?
I had been torn between these two lenses, and thanks to you. I purchased Sigma 30mm. So far I love it. I am experiencing occasional freeze (or hang) when using touch focus with a5100, but it is manageable.
Thanks for your great content!
I've had the Sony 35mm 1.8 for awhile and love it. Thinking that the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, I was going to purchase the Sigma. Thank you for saving me $300+! Compactness, native focusing speed and OSS, yep. Thanks!
Good choice! Cant beat the Sony 35mm!
Hi! Can I use the lens with A5100?
yes of course. as long as it is an emount lens you can use it
Since the testing description was silent on this issue, please be sure to confirm that you were either testing autofocus accuracy while on a tripod on a fixed object or that you were using AF-C. Why? There is a measurable difference in depth of field between F1.4 and F1.8, especially when the subject is closer to the lens. Any minor swaying will cause the image to come out as soft or not as sharp. This is especially true when shooting portraits at F1.4. You need to nail focus on the eye (notice that I said singular) and you just won't be able to do so with any consistency if shooting in AF-S. A lot of the complaints about focusing accuracy stem from this lack of understanding of wide aperture lenses. Most people can get away to some degree with sloppy technique with wider angle F1.8 lenses, that just won't get you through the day at F1.4.
I am UK based, and left for my holiday home in Europe, taking with just my a6000 and Sony F4/18-105 G.. Amongst others, I left behind my super A mount Sal35f14G, as with the LA-EA4 attached its to darn heavy. So here I am away from home and need to make a short break to Boston MA. Wanting to travel light, taking the bulk of my 18-105 is a non starter. So I hunt around, and find two of your videos that impressed me. Now thanks to your videos I have a Sony 35mm F/1.8 winging its way from Amazon Germany, and I am truly happy. So happy, that I had no hesitation in subscribing to your TechnologyMafia site.
It would be great if you could do a follow up now that 1) you have an A6500 with IBIS and 2) the Sigma has had a firmware update that is supposed to minimise manual focus/AF issues. I'm tossing up which one to buy to use for mostly photos (portrait and street photography), but some video as well. With an A6500, the lack of OSS in the Sigma might not be an issue at all and it appears to be a better lens apart from that.
Great review! I've got the 35mm ordered.
this was the comparison I've been waiting for! thank you so much for the hard work!
Love this!! I got the Sigma last year and wasn’t sure how well it’d compare to the Sony which is quite a bit more (price wise.) Glad I went with the Sigma as I like the colors more in this video. :) great comparison.
Hmm... I have the Sigma and on both of my a6300's I can use the in camera corrections to get rid of the barrel distortion. Works on my 16mm Sigma as well. You shouldn't need some 3rd party software to do this. Perhaps you're working on an older firmware? However, there are no firmware updates for the 16mm and it works.
The Sigma 30mm f1.4 suffers from too much annoying AF noise. Also, it displays excessive chromatic aberration. Returned it and purchased the Sony 35mm f1.8 and am very satisfied with it.
Try the new Sigma 30mm F1.4 Art lens. Still AF difficulties being reported on the new lens along with chromatic aberration.
that's good to know as i've just purchased the sony lens. I'm going to pair it with some cinemorph anamorphic filters!
Another great video, love your videos.
I also have a A6000 that i bought in 2nd hand with 16-50mm kit lens, with around 2000 shots for about 350$. In the past i had 5 DSLR´s. But now with the A6000 it is absolutely awesome, the size, the performance and the aids to help manual focusing those awesome legacy lenses, simply astonishing. I´m in love with it.
Keep up with the good work :)
how do you know it has been took a photo arrounf 2000?
@@ariqkamil571 The previous owner probably gave the number of shots taken up to that point, from checking the SD card originally used. For instance, I've had my a6300 for about a month and this is the last file on it: DSC00832.ARW (a RAW file, I generally shoot RAW+JPEG). See the last three numbers? That's 832 shots total.
@@AlexRamosDrTaz That's not the most accurate way to know the shutter count. There are various sites that allow you to upload a RAW file and their software analyses the metadata embedded in the file and will give you an accurate shutter count. Google.
@@p0rt0b0y You're right, thanks.
Dear Sir Arthur: I want to thank you very much for the content that you have been uploading to the network. It has been incredible how every doubt I had turns out that you had done a study work on it. You are very honest, natural and objective. You express yourself very well. I love that you consider the ratio of size, weight, comfort and simplicity
in each comparison. You have helped me a lot to save money and not be disappointed by a bad purchase. On the other hand, I also love that you continue to value the Alpha 6000 and that you do not get on the train that the latest of the latest is the best. Finally, you have a great collaborator in your wife and your videos would not be the same without her. Thanks a lot to both.
I just ordered the Sigma 30mm f1.4 for my a6500 on Amazon. I was between both lenses and this video helped me choose which to buy (and backs up what I read about both of them). I got my a6500 with the 18-135mm and while it is a great walk-around zoom, I want to really see what the sensor is capable of with a sharp prime lens.
Another fine video. I really appreciate your delivery, coverage and reviews. I am just restarting with the A6000 that I bought several years ago and am wanting to narrow it down to a couple travel take alongs
Whats impressive about the 30mm 1.4 is its maxium aperture is actually useable. It has great sharpness both at the center and edges.
Thanks. I really was leaning Sigma, but now Sony due to the amount of video I shoot and the amount of run and gunning.
Great review! I'm looking to add to my camera bag, and want a wider lens. I have been using the 50mm Sony lens, and it works excellent for portraits but its super tight in a lot of situations when I'm in smaller spaces. I think I'll put the Sigma on my wish list :) I loved the warmer tones that the Sigma provides. Thanks!
When this video was made, you hit 10K Subs, now you are at 117K! Big congrats!
Great videos! Would love to see more event style videos like you car show coverage. Seems like living abroad would provide some great opportunities for that.
Dude GREAT videos! love your work for its simplicity and straight up thoughts, specs, samples! I had all 3 best lenses around that focal range, the Sigma 30mm f2.8 EX DN, Sony 35mm f1.8 and the Sigma 30mm f1.4 DC DN C and compared them all...in the end I chose the Sigma 1.4 due to its sharpness and bokeh, for some reason my results where different, the sigma 1.4 obliterated the other two. Maybe its the sensor age/shots? I use my a6000 for stills only and have around 5k shots with it... peace out dude! keep on posting!
You are the guy i am looking for. Lavitaphotography made the exact conclusion. However i am still curious that which one is good for video? I already have Sigma 60mm f 2.8 for portrait.
the Sigma 60 is amazing. this 30 Too but I use the camera for stills. if you have one of those camera stabilizers magic thingamagingy sticks then go for one of these without a doubt. when it comes to video OSS or image stabilization is always a huge plus, but not a must. I love vintage lenses for video for example...it depends on the person and the main use of the camera. if you shoot primarily video then save up for the 6500 and worry never again no matter what lens you use. Peace!
Thanks for prompt reply Piero, 6500 is way too expensive for my budget as i am just an enthusiast photographer. I do stills and video on 60/40 ratio respectively. Considering your comment i might be considering sel 35 f1.8 with oss or fe 30 f2
Piero Fortunic-Hitchcock hey, does the sigma 1.4 use all autofocus points in the a6000? Thx
Hey Leo, I will have to check. I use all my cameras on single point focus and reframe.
I finally start to get the big picture.
The Sigma lenses seem to be a dream and would love to have one, BUT I cannot tell you how AF sometimes super important is.
Picture this: IF YOU have nephews or family you wish to photograph and CAPTURE THAT MOMENT, AF is sooooo important.
I love vintage lenses and manual focusing, but coming back to the row above: until you focus or you wait for a slow lens to focus (AF),
you would have lost so many nice moments and cute faces of your family members.
See? It just depends WHAT you are shooting.
There is NO perfect lens, out there, that is super fast, super sharp and super good in low light and with OSS on it, unfortunately.
If you the guy who stays there with his tripod, lights up a cigar and shoots stars or landscapes or buildings, go for the Sigma.
If you my guy, with crazy little bunnies hopping all over the place, go for the faster AF lens.
Sony stands out pretty good, as well. Nobody will zoom 100%, 200% in your picture, to see if it is sharp.
Nobody will see the less saturation (which, I like and you can anyways add more saturation in your picture profile in camera),
BUT I do not want to stay and correct barrel distorsions. I want to send the pictures through wi-fi.
And usually, my sister in law wants the pics copied on her HDD, as well, before we leave.
So, I think I would go for the Sony...
I would love to see more low light tests as my main reason for buying the sigma would be the 1.4 f. I have the Sony 50mm 1.8 and it is great but for shots at weddings or dance halls I'm wondering if the 1.4 can get me to the point where I can get away with less flash photography.
in my country the sony 35mm and sigma brand new is the same price, while the 2nd hand market the sony 35mm is cheaper. I would totally go for sigma if wasnt for the pricing. I personally think with oss and small size is much simpler to carry
Great job!! I hope you can make some videos of your next trip! Thanks for this video!
Thanks for the videos. It’s nice to have easy to understand videos that compare camera lenses.
I am testing both lenses at the moment. Seems the Sigma is indeed the superior lens, BUT i find the AF to be better on the Sony. With moving subjects: kids, pets etc i found the Sony the better choice.
I've purchased the Sony purely for that reason - my subjects are not always sitting still to have their photo's taken!
hey , just bought an a6000 , it will arrive in 2 days , and watching your videos for over a week (: , nice job ! keep going (:
I was expecting a video AF test too
Nice comparison, you help me decide which one I'm going to buy next week. Thanks!
I think the golden combo would be a6500 zeiss24 1.8 and sigma 30 1.4 for a real 35 and 50 mm FF feeling :). Also would be interesting to know about if the IQ is not even better on the a6500 considering it has a better sensor mmmhhh..
Thanks a lot , it's been a confusing matter to me since the singma launched 30 mm 1.4
Your videos are great and down to earth! I have the Sigma 19mm and because of this video I ordered the 30mm. I have been a Nikon guy for years but have been using the a6300 for awhile and love it.
That's awesome! I just got the 30mm F2.8 myself just to check out and see how good it is. Video to come.
I’ve already ordered a sigma 30mm 1.4 and waiting
Thanks a lot for the in detail review 👍👍
your videos are very good, I especially like the portraits of your wife and the other picture they are so helpful in determining the quality of the lens
Thanks! I am glad you enjoy them.
Watching in 2020. Thanks this helped me to decide on Sony 35mm f1.8 for my A6400. Returning my Sigma 30mm 1.4 healf heartedly because I picked it up for $230. Sadly I notice the lack of OSS even on my gimbal (webill lab).
The Sigma 30mm got a new firmware in Fev/2018 that upgraded the Manual Focus adjustment. I liked better now than before.
hi. i am thinking about buying Sigma 30mm but i read about horrible manual focus. did this firmware update fixed it totally or just a bit?
Do you notice a hum noise on Sony 35mm lens, especially when the shutter pressed half way to get focus?
Does the Sony still hold up for 2020/2021??
I like how deep you go in comparing the lenses. Definitely something I learn from for my future videos :)
You have 'hands down' the BEST photography channel on RUclips.
I have been having focus problems with the 30mm f/1.4 Sigma on my A6500. Yesterday, I used that combination at ISO 320 giving me 1/250 second at f/5.6 to shoot a group of five people standing in a row outside. I used single shot, AFS, wide area with face detect turned on. The camera showed focus squares around several of the peoples faces but the focus would go in and out. It ended up with the row of subjects just ever so soft with the background more in focus. What do you think went wrong...
Hi arthur, thinking of getting the 35mm over the sigma 30mm. Do you still like the 35mm better? Does the 35mm create a shadow when using built in flash?
I have the sigma 30mm, for walking around town lens its a little big imo...however I took some shots of people on the street and the photos were impressive with the sigma...in my use case Im considering getting rid of the sigma 30mm and going with the sigma 56mm 1.4 and using it for portraits and some street photos and maybe pick up the 35mm sony later on...the size of the sony lens is very compelling for spending alot of time out and about , I hate bulky cameras and why I went with the sony A series
Hi there, appreciated if you could have a comparison between Sigma 16mm F/1.4 and Sony 35mm F/1.8.
Thank you.
Simply and alway best review!!
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Aargh, the sigma looked so much better tho. But I really need that IS/OSS and silent AF for video.
on the spec sheet the sigma 30mm weights 9.3 oz (265g), while the sony 35mm weights 5.5 oz (154g). there is also a significant difference in length, 1.1 inch (28mm). I am considering the sony due to its size. I almost never use manual focus so... after all these years, would you still pick the sony ?
Great review, that were exactly my thoughts about the Sigma. As you said the Sony is better if you want to travel light weight. After this review I think I will also take the Sony
Will the Sony 35mm F1.8 work with Sony A7C full-frame camera?
Sigma 30mm vs viltrox 33mm, which one would you choose?
Local camera store is selling a used 35 for $320 or can get a new 30 for $290. I want the extra stops of light but the compactness of the 35 is great
I am using Sony A6400 (no IBIS) but I have a weebill S gimbal, should i get the sony or the sigma lens? I mostly shoot travel videos and little bit of photography. The Sigma is a little bit more expensive by 30$ here in Singapore.
Sony lens for me would win’ because of size and compactness and every time editor can make preferred adjustments.
Best E-mount chanel!
What about a comparison between the sony 35mm and the new samyang/rokinon 35mm f2.8?
Have a good day man!
Good video, nice comparison. But please, whichever camera you're using to shoot these videos, put it in manual focus mode. The focus hunting is so distracting!
Years ago I bought the Sigma for EOS. With the adapter it becomes even clunkier. Time to upgrade?
I would like to see how the older Sigma30f2.8 would compare to these two. From what I've read so far the 2.8 Sigma is better for landscape since it's sharper at infinity compared to Sony and the Sigma 1.4.
New Sigma firmware for the 30mm. Time for a new comparison!
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Afaik they just fixed manual focussing.
so how is it ?
sigma's colors are far superior, but i didn't like how it performed in low light. I also like the smaller form factor of the Sony lense. many have also said that the autofocus in the sony's are far superior. What a tough decision.
For the final conclusions of the video I am choosing the Sony 35mm. Fast and accurate AF is too important to me.
I was debating between these two lenses, but you gave me the correct answer.
Sigma 30mm f/1.4 vs Sony Zeiss 24mm f/1.8? Anyone have experience with both?
So I’m stuck between the two. This will be my 1st prime lens and I’m a beginner so I don’t want to make a regretful decision. I like the Sony because of the size and of course the good images it produces. I guess I’m trying to “grow” on the Sony lens but ultimately it looks like the sigma gives you the crisper sharper image which is what I want. I like the fact that you have a lower Fstop number and can use a lower iso to get a better picture. But then I heard the lens doesn’t have OSS. Which dealing with a slow shutter to let more light in might cause camera shake which could make it harder to get that better picture. Now I don’t do video now but eventually that’s my goal I’m just doing photos for now but I don’t want to get the sigma but then regret not having oss but I want a really good picture!!! Help please!!!!
I bought the 35mm but I'm not satisfied about it's sharpness. It is behind my 35mm Nikon DX..... Could be a right choice to buy a Sigma 30mm? I own the 56mm and it's a very good lens....
I have the sigma, since I use it on an a6400 it doesn't focus well from f1.4 to f2.5, I've been thinking about buying the sigma again, but I don't want to risk the focus failing.
Sigma 30mm f/1.4 uses the Phase Detect auto-focus capabilities of the body/sensor only in the center rectangle of the rule of 3rds.
Use the Sigma only in AFC (Auto Focus Continuous) Zone (that center rectangle). This way the focus speed and accuracy is as good as the Sony lenses (like the Zeiss 24mm f/1.8). The focus accuracy will get very close to 100%.
Don't use the Sigma in AFC Wide as it may focus in the outside rectangles of the rule of 3rds where it switches to Contrast Detect and will start hunting for focus (taking maybe a full second to focus).
Also, Sony Alpha 6500 can be configured to favor good focus instead of releasing the shutter as soon as possible ("Priority Set in AFC" to be set to "AF" instead of "Release").
This option is not present on a6000.
The sharpness of Sigma 30mm f/1.4 is just awesome.
Sigma is sharper at f/1.4 across the frame than the "Sony Zeiss 24mm f/1.8" is at f/2.8.
Take a look at www.dpreview.com/reviews/lens-compare-fullscreen?compare=true&lensId=sigma_30_1p4_dc_dn_c&cameraId=sony_nex7&version=0&fl=30&av=1.4&view=mtf-ca&lensId2=sony_e_24_1p8&cameraId2=sony_nex7&version2=0&fl2=24&av2=1.8
Sony Zeiss 24mm is much softer at f/1.8 than the Sigma at f/1.4 which is a shame considering the Sony's $1100 price tag.
Sigma 30mm f/1.4 is what I always have on the camera.
Sony Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 just sits there in a corner of the room and collects dust.
a6500 at ISO 6400 gets the same image quality as a6000 at ISO 3200.
Adding the f/1.4 from the Sigma, you can get a low light monster in the form of a small and light form-factor.
Which is awesome.
Good video, mate.
I bought the 35mm to be used with an a6000 as a walkaround lens, but returned it mostly due to 3 issues:
1) The 52.5mm focal length was way too much to be used in many scenarios. My main reason to return it.
2) Poor stabilization for video shooting, actually the worst I´ve tried in a long time, including those of cheap, compact cameras.
3) Perfectly audible noise while shooting videos indoors, quite probably stemmig from the OSS working 100% of the time.
I´m now considering this Sigma to be used with the stabilized a6500, but I´m not sure about the focusing noises you mentioned. I wish you would´ve let us know how it sounds...
The sigma 30mm is pretty fast and quiet. It sounds like you got a bad 35mm though? I dont have any noise or stabilization issues with my SEL35F18.
In terms of lowlight. Which one to chose? Is the Sony better in lowlight even though it is 1.8 since it has OSS?
How can you compare how sharp an image is or how much grain the image has if you don't shoot at the same ISO. Change your shutter speed to achieve the same exposure but leave the ISO and f-stop the same.
Nice comparison video! It was well done and arranged nicely. I love my a6000 with the 35/F1.8 and 16-70/F4. Are you planning on getting the a6500 and doing a comparison?
very helpfull video as always.Wich lens you prefer for landscape?Will you make a video for lanlandscapes?
Thank you, very good comparison👍🏽 Cheers DrDuu
The ISO settings were different (2500 vs 3200) when you compared the 'hotel parking' sign pictures for sharpness. Doesn't seem like a fair comparison, the higher ISO picture is predictably 'noisier' which will affect the sharpness of the picture taken with the Sony lens.
sharikmarius Right, that's part of what I was explaining. The camera adjusts ISO automatically in most modes, so if you are casually shooting, the Sigma lens will have lower ISO values, making it sharper.
I would love to have a sigma or 2. But if the price difference is significant (and also size), and the performance is close enough I would choose Sony. I'm new to these and not really as picky, just want to make some videos and take some pictures
Only using them for video. Does the SIGMA still 'barrel' in video??
Thanks for the comparison! Looks like I made a good choice with the Sony 35mm.
Any chance you could review Sigma 30mm vs Zeiss Touit 32mm on a6500?
Thanks for the review, I purchased sigma 30 mm lens very satisfied. I also have sigma 56 mm to shoot with my a6600 Sony. Any recommendations for a walk around telephoto lens?
Very useful overview. Great! Thanks a lot!
On a tripod and live streaming, which one is the best sigma 30mm 1.4 or SONY 35mm 1.8?
So which is better? Sony or sigma lens by your opinion?
Better sony or sigma...please recomend
Nice video. I would prefer that you match the field of view in doing comparison. Also, use a grey card to color correct. Then the comparison would be more fair and relevant to more people. Thanks!
Which lens is better for video. The Sony is better at AF which is handy if you need to rely on AF in a quick situation.
Starting at about timeline 5.00, you state that you cannot explain the lack of grain with the Sony lens as conpared with the Sigma. One possible explanation "might be" that this Sigma is a bit sharper than the Sony (at least in this pair of images it looks that way) and thus the Sigma might be picking up the grain that the Sony is hiding...
I’m interested in purchasing the Sigma 30mm F1.4 for my Sony A6100. Should I buy this lens if I already own a Sony 50mm F1.8?
Were all of these shot in raw or jpeg. Sigma supposedly fixed the barrel distortion for jpeg mode with a firmware update
Just a comment about this comparison, Sony lens vs Sigma, and I'm seen the same thing on your other Sony vs Sigma review:
I think the sharpness, AND the color difference may both be from internal stay light flaring in the Sony. It definitely looks like internal lens flare to my eye. They're actually both resolving about the same (ignoring a few failures to focus), but colors on the Sony are very slightly washed-out and lower contrast than the Sigma, which is a clear indication of internal stray light. It could be better lens coatings by Sigma, or better non-reflective internal metal surfaces, or a little of both.
In any case, good job Sigma! Now when are you going to make native E-Mount lenses? Especially for Sony full-frame bodies like my a9?
Did I miss any mention of the OSS with the Sony? Seems like that should be a significant plus.
Sigma 30mm f1.4 or Sony fe 85mm f1.8? Which one is great for me to buy it? Can you suggest?
Both are great, the 85mm is an outdoor only portrait lens, whereas the sigma 30mm is a street lens and can be used indoors.
Just bought the sigma lens and made sure to use your link! Thanks for all the great videos
Brielle C Farmer Thank you so much for the support! 😃
Can you make video about what difference of sigma 30mm 1.4 and sigma 16mm 1.4
You say you keep the sony. But you currently have the Sigma. You change your opinion?
The price point for both lenses in my country is similar, which one would you suggest?
Just what i expected. Plus the Sony in Indonesian price is about the same as the Sigma so i'd get the Sony then. The bokeh quality isn't that much different as i look into your photo image, only brighter on the Sigma end, so not much reason to go Sigma anyway. Thanks for the review!
PS: I wonder though, is it true the Sigma doesn't auto correct the barrel distortion in camera? Because if i need to do post editing everytime i shot with Sigma lens, it's very time consuming and unfortunate. I have read that Sigma already fixed the distortion with newer revision of their lens so which lens did you use? The old revision or the new?
The grain difference shows that the sigma is sharper or that you have some kind of lens correction enabled on the sony