Murder Solved by Killer's OWN TWEETS

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  • Опубликовано: 22 июн 2022
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    Today's solved true crime case is on the murder of Skylar Neese - a teenage girl with a very normal life, her two best friends Sheila Eddy & Rachel Shoaf were everything to her... Until cryptic tweets started emerging that revealed not everything was as it seemed in Skylar Neese's friendships
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  • @gracey3269
    @gracey3269 Год назад +10794

    Imagine as a parent, you're child goes missing and the perpetrator is the one who cried with you as you held her.
    So evil.

    • @hh_teeeee
      @hh_teeeee Год назад +485

      @@hearts4lana Spoiled it?????? its not a movie or some tv show, its about a real person that actually existed. Have some empathy.......

    • @mollyanderson657
      @mollyanderson657 Год назад

      I'm skinning that snake alive.

    • @Kate_-uc2nf
      @Kate_-uc2nf Год назад +127

      @@hearts4lana it’s very obvious where it was going

    • @siohunndai
      @siohunndai Год назад +93

      @@hearts4lana why would you say this...

    • @user-ep3fo5vw1v
      @user-ep3fo5vw1v Год назад +89

      @@hearts4lana it's not a tv show.

  • @a.h.i267
    @a.h.i267 Год назад +10159

    the way skylars parents protected her legacy even in death, making a new law, suing for $5m, asking for 1st degreee charges goes to show just how much they loved her.

    • @maddieb.4282
      @maddieb.4282 Год назад +98

      I hope you know 5,000 people agree with you. You might not since you haven’t gotten any responses yet

    • @sarahmaureencadigen9948
      @sarahmaureencadigen9948 11 месяцев назад +73

      ​@@maddieb.4282I know this is a couple months old but you're so sweet letting this person know that despite no comments so SO many people agree! ❤

    • @am_Nein
      @am_Nein 9 месяцев назад +21

      ​@@sarahmaureencadigen9948yes, although I think we all agree. Silence can speak louder than a million words, you know?

    • @very.irritated.
      @very.irritated. 6 месяцев назад +4

      That is how it’s supposed to be.
      Love your mothers.

    • @LilacMorelli
      @LilacMorelli 6 месяцев назад +5

      I’m confused why they sued the parents for money? Like it was the kids who killed her

  • @pajamas_the_emo
    @pajamas_the_emo 8 месяцев назад +2411

    not Apple thinking they’re higher than the FBI 💀

    • @Ur_FavoriteGurl
      @Ur_FavoriteGurl 8 месяцев назад +26

      Fr

    • @bonnet3402
      @bonnet3402 6 месяцев назад +105

      No but those policies are there so the police can’t just come and take your information for no reason.

    • @jackeroni216
      @jackeroni216 5 месяцев назад +105

      they're reasonable policies. if they didn't exist the government could track you wherever you go.

    • @caprituna
      @caprituna 5 месяцев назад +5

      and actually getting away with it!

    • @OmyheavEnlyg0d
      @OmyheavEnlyg0d 5 месяцев назад

      @@bonnet3402you spelt it wrong dummy

  • @miphasgrace8980
    @miphasgrace8980 Год назад +5064

    This is a case that I’ve known about since it happened but every time I see that “we really did go on 3” tweet still sends shivers down my spine. Absolutely disgusting

    • @pinheadlarry2921
      @pinheadlarry2921 Год назад +252

      same. it actually leads me to believe sheila didn’t think rachel would do it. like she’s surprised they really did it together.

    • @dillgirll
      @dillgirll Год назад +280

      and also "why is my favorite word"
      shivering

    • @rose-cv1lf
      @rose-cv1lf Год назад +80

      @@dillgirll oh my goddd she’s literally insane

    • @hhgt237
      @hhgt237 Год назад +61

      @@dillgirll that’s so sick & tormented I feel sick reading this omg

    • @xxnofacewitchgurlxx
      @xxnofacewitchgurlxx Год назад +29

      It's a coincidence that they were friends of 3 an they counted till 3..

  • @stringcheese123
    @stringcheese123 2 года назад +10088

    I saw a tweet that sheila posted that read, “‘why’ is my favorite question” , like how horrible of a person do u have to be to mock ur supposed “best friends” last words, what is wrong with her

    • @rx500android
      @rx500android 2 года назад +520

      Oh my god this is horrible

    • @darinaevtimova1315
      @darinaevtimova1315 2 года назад

      i literally shed a tear reading this comment. Sheila is the most disgusting and sick person i have heard about.

    • @deannadanielle
      @deannadanielle 2 года назад +216

      Just horrible

    • @mwaahh
      @mwaahh 2 года назад +139

      Horrible.

    • @M.S.Y.C
      @M.S.Y.C 2 года назад +84

      well thats why you should trust no pne not even your friends

  • @HeroesRiseUp
    @HeroesRiseUp 2 года назад +14466

    Knowing she just kept asking “Why” when being murdered by her closest friends has to be one of the most heart breaking things I’ve ever heard in my life…

    • @moa_army
      @moa_army Год назад +658

      And sheila literally posted saying “ “why“ is my favorite question “

    • @lebinc
      @lebinc Год назад +52

      @@moa_army where did she post it ? and what was the user?

    • @moa_army
      @moa_army Год назад +143

      @@lebinc it’s on Twitter and her user is in the video

    • @andrewlakic
      @andrewlakic Год назад +151

      This made me throw up

    • @almostTOTALLYvix
      @almostTOTALLYvix Год назад +58

      @@moa_army messed up.

  • @LoveRauhlxXx
    @LoveRauhlxXx Год назад +4534

    Not only did they kill their best friend but they also abused her by forcing her to watch as they performed sexual acts on one another. They are absolutely disgusting excuses for people

    • @user-ep3fo5vw1v
      @user-ep3fo5vw1v Год назад +1

      Yup! That’s a form of sexual assault

    • @shanan3289
      @shanan3289 Год назад +107

      Wtf, seriously

    • @amberhasisen5497
      @amberhasisen5497 Год назад +41

      @@shanan3289 minute 56

    • @heyjude6680
      @heyjude6680 Год назад +45

      they didn't FORCE her to watch they were just making out and skylar happened to walk in and see them

    • @avond2908
      @avond2908 Год назад +559

      @@heyjude6680 Did you miss the part where it's mentioned that they literally LOCKED her into the bathroom while they made out in the bath??? 🤨🤨🤨🤨

  • @randomaccount9768
    @randomaccount9768 Год назад +4525

    It’s scary to know that they could of gotten away with it if they played it correctly no one would of ever suspected them.

    • @vamppooni
      @vamppooni Год назад

      They almost got away with it if rachel didnt have mental issues

    • @skaty_klein
      @skaty_klein Год назад +9

      1.1k likes but no comments? Let me change that 👍👀

    • @ChaoticMushy
      @ChaoticMushy Год назад +197

      Things would've been so different had Rachel not been a very anxious person

    • @air8223
      @air8223 Год назад +124

      I feel like what gave it away was when they started changing the story it they just stuck with the original story they actually could've gotten away it which is just horrifying

    • @AshtonGarland
      @AshtonGarland Год назад +38

      I feel like they wouldn’t have gotten away, sooner or later some form of evidence would have pointed to them.

  • @ariannamichele2822
    @ariannamichele2822 2 года назад +5622

    I can’t tell if the guilt of murdering her friend is what ate away at Rachel, or if it was the fear of being caught that made her go into breakdown and caused her to confess

    • @siobhanhenry9094
      @siobhanhenry9094 2 года назад +732

      Ganna say it was the getting caught, coz 6 months of lying didn't eat away at her but after she slipped up with her story change she suddenly got all menty bee

    • @ariannamichele2822
      @ariannamichele2822 Год назад +151

      @@siobhanhenry9094 that’s the part that confuses me, she did slip up however it may have been because of the guilt.

    • @Firestorm-613
      @Firestorm-613 Год назад +223

      Probably the slip of the story got to her. For months, she didn’t act metal until she slip the story up. It wasn’t guilt. It was knowing that people were gonna see their true colors.
      One, they plan it for 9 months
      Second, they tried to frame their self as innocent.

    • @babyblue28
      @babyblue28 Год назад +67

      I have nightmares about killing people and dealing with that insane guilt so I empathized with Rachel there but I feel like I would crack earlier as someone with an actual moral compass. Rachel is just… a nutcase. Idk

    • @sleepyjoe6106
      @sleepyjoe6106 Год назад +87

      probably a mix, though i think rachel, if she did, felt more remorse than sheila

  • @ansleyroberts6155
    @ansleyroberts6155 Год назад +2837

    Why did they not think to check Skylar’s diary in the beginning? Usually you can find so much information in diaries when it comes to true crime cases. It’s so unbelievably upsetting that they never thought to look in hers until much much later.

    • @TahtahmesDiary
      @TahtahmesDiary Год назад +312

      They might not have even known she had one until they got up the emotional ability to comb through her room themselves.

    • @jadecoolness101
      @jadecoolness101 Год назад +308

      @@TahtahmesDiary This is true. We can't forget that the parents were grieving, but also hoping she was okay. They didn't want to disrespect their daughter

    • @ansleyroberts6155
      @ansleyroberts6155 Год назад +68

      Weren't the police given the ability to look through the room for any indications of why she was murdered though? Usually with crime cases detectives will look in areas where the person may have been or would have spent their time to try and get a lead. It’s plausible that they would want to check her room considering they could find out more on why she was killed. It just confuses me because I underhand her parents were grieving, but wouldn’t they want to give their daughter justice with any means necessary?

    • @thilsiktonix
      @thilsiktonix Год назад +21

      Her friends didn't really act suspicious so I can't imagine they would've had reason to suspect them in the beginning; she was still missing, she hadn't even been found

    • @breezysummers8692
      @breezysummers8692 Год назад +36

      Yeah I feel like there were a few things (just based on this video) that the police dropped the ball on. If they thought she was a runaway, they would have wanted to look for clues indicating where she might have gone, right? And, why didn't anyone check the timestamp of the CCTV vs the time the girls said they picked her up the first time? Did they not ask the other girls directly if drugs were involved or anything? If they thought that drugs were involved, could they have conducted a search for that evidence? Then they would have found the blood.

  • @meganroepke9601
    @meganroepke9601 Год назад +1227

    To think that Skylar went out to that forest that night with the sole goal of patching things up with her best friends only to be betrayed and viciously murdered is heartbreaking. While I understand the fear and paranoia surrounding being potentially outed, it’s absolutely no excuse to murder a beautiful girl in cold blood. She fought for her life and they didn’t hold back. They are monsters and should not be sympathized with. The absolute lack of remorse is sickening. They belong in prison.
    RIP Skylar you did not deserve that at all. You should be alive. Rest easy sweet angel. ❤
    And to the Neese family, never stop fighting for change in honor of Skylar. She would be so proud of you. Hope you are finding peace and healing. 💕

    • @tsundor1
      @tsundor1 9 месяцев назад +46

      right? if your fear of being outed is greater than your fear of ending someone's life i think you have bigger things to worry about...

    • @ezentsy3329
      @ezentsy3329 7 месяцев назад +18

      I was thinking when the amber alert wasnt issued that after this surely something would change, and I was surprised to see that it actually did, its a small silver lining to such a depraved case. Rest easy.

  • @braedencullen6681
    @braedencullen6681 Год назад +2082

    the fact that they were both smiling in their mugshots just shows how little remorse they actually have

    • @gabbyquintal7295
      @gabbyquintal7295 Год назад +260

      and they both did their hair and make up sick girls jesus

    • @bgebre4031
      @bgebre4031 Год назад +257

      i was starting to pity rachel just because of how broken she seemed during the trials then i saw the disgusting smirks in the mugshots. not an ounce of remorse from them. beyond sick.

    • @vamppooni
      @vamppooni Год назад +1

      @@bgebre4031 rachel seems really mentally ill and has some big issues in her head

    • @user-ep3fo5vw1v
      @user-ep3fo5vw1v Год назад +36

      @@bgebre4031not to defend them, but those aren't their first mugshots from 2014 when they were transfered from a juvenile prison to an adult one, the smiling ones are updated ones from 2017 and 2020. you probably want to look your best (I'm assuming).

    • @bgebre4031
      @bgebre4031 Год назад +62

      @@user-ep3fo5vw1v if I'm not mistaken, the mugshots were for the same murder charge... still widely inappropriate to smile or look your best in those circumstances but that's just my opinion.

  • @wooyobuns
    @wooyobuns 2 года назад +4696

    what broke me really is when skylar kept saying "why" as the two girls stabbed her...it must've been so scary and so painful for skylar to be in this situation because of none other than her two best friends. sick, absolutely sick

    • @kristianavoutsinos9245
      @kristianavoutsinos9245 2 года назад

      I remember reading and hearing that Shelia actually posted on Facebook "My favorite word is why." Which is absolutely sickening. I hope she rots in prison like the piece of garbage she is.

    • @bornstar481
      @bornstar481 2 года назад +7

      What a dumb question because they felt like it

    • @Random_loaf_of_bread
      @Random_loaf_of_bread 2 года назад +165

      ​@@bornstar481 wtf

    • @phucbich7581
      @phucbich7581 2 года назад +75

      @@bornstar481 that’s so cold ong 😭

    • @julia.grb6
      @julia.grb6 2 года назад +57

      @@bornstar481 yo wtf

  • @squidgesaurusrex3974
    @squidgesaurusrex3974 2 года назад +5922

    So they went from "we just hate Skylar" to "we'd rather be murderers than be outed to our parents". Throw away the keys to those cells, they should never be allowed to get out.

    • @Jackfrostsbestie
      @Jackfrostsbestie 2 года назад +872

      As someone who is part of the LGBT+ community, being outed is an absolutely terrible thing to happen and its a horrible thing to do as well, BUT that is NEVER a reason to murder someone.

    • @Maddie-xm8jz
      @Maddie-xm8jz 2 года назад +437

      @@Jackfrostsbestie fr, when i was outed it was one of the most difficult times in my life, but it’s still not an excuse

    • @joannevona9020
      @joannevona9020 2 года назад +1

      I hope they get the worse/worse FROM the worse/worse behind bars! JUST CANNOT comprehend what they were thinkin'?! GREAT job U IDIOT PARENTS!! 😤😡🤔

    • @NotesNNotes
      @NotesNNotes 2 года назад +274

      I think they probably did it too to cover up the weird nonconsensual shit they were pulling

    • @villainapologist
      @villainapologist 2 года назад +21

      Maybe being outed*

  • @TheMedicatedArtist
    @TheMedicatedArtist Год назад +1362

    I’ve heard of this crime so many times, but they all excluded the romantic angle. It definitely makes way more sense than “we just didn’t like her anymore”.

    • @HowlingWolf4545
      @HowlingWolf4545 Год назад +148

      i’ve always thought of that too. I mean, the possibility of a lesbian relationship with the girls having religious families in the midwest makes the situation much more serious than just having a falling out of friendship. Makes me think that more happened in that bathroom than they are letting on

    • @milkystarrobloxofficial8727
      @milkystarrobloxofficial8727 Год назад +62

      didnt skylar's parents say skylar had many gay/lesbian friends so she wouldnt taunt anyone for being gay

    • @ok-wh5df
      @ok-wh5df Год назад +54

      @@milkystarrobloxofficial8727i don’t think they were scared of what skylar would think, they were obv open in front of her. just worried what their families would think if it got out

    • @hannahmagnolia2166
      @hannahmagnolia2166 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@theashwoodfaerie do you have a source? I didn't know rachel confirmed it

    • @rubysmyth3571
      @rubysmyth3571 6 месяцев назад +6

      i think rachel only revealed that information at her parole hearing last year.

  • @teenyturnip
    @teenyturnip Год назад +452

    This case horrified me. Not only the fact that Skylar’s very own “best friends” killed her, but the fact that Sheila tried to cover it up and pretend like she really cared. I can’t even fathom how Sheila and Rachel went to sleep that night knowing what they did. And that tweet “we really did go on 3” shows absolutely no remorse. Truly terrifying.

    • @RMills646
      @RMills646 5 месяцев назад +8

      There's even less remorse in the tweet " "why" is my favourite question"

  • @FrinkieMarie
    @FrinkieMarie 2 года назад +8849

    Just to add an update to this story, the Neeses have been working to make Skylar's Law a NATIONAL law and not just in West Virginia. They are truly an amazing couple and have been able to help so many more parents at their worst times.

    • @z.z.1876
      @z.z.1876 2 года назад +86

      Hi! Can you please give more information on this? I can’t find anything about it and on the official site of the Amber Alert I can still only find the four well-known rules though in most points the need for “best judgement” is added.

    • @brischarrer
      @brischarrer 2 года назад +141

      @@z.z.1876 The "Amber Alert" system is *SOO Misunderstood!!* We need a different alerting system tbh- I mean like an alert with different prerequisites than the *VERY* straightforward- VERY strict and well-defined (perhaps too much so...) AMBER ALERT criteria.
      It actually has more to do with needing to be abducted and knowing the car details that the child is in FOR SURE- which is why it is not the easiest "Alert" to send out. You need very specific information. It's more of a Public BOLO- it isn't a text- all phones in the (Sorry- but again, fairly KNOWN general area of the kid) go off with a horrible screeching sound. More than 1 time. A lot of people really dislike it which I find odd. Jesus ppl, it isn't that much of a damn inconvenience that ppl make it out to be .... but that's besides the point I wanted to make. Not sure if I explained that well whatsoever 🤔 but yeah, it's weird.

    • @HK-yh1zi
      @HK-yh1zi 2 года назад +16

      That is truely amazing what a nice update to hear about after such a horrible case x

    • @FrinkieMarie
      @FrinkieMarie 2 года назад +9

      @@brischarrer That's why Skylar's Law was passed.

    • @chp4822
      @chp4822 2 года назад +97

      @@brischarrer I never understand when people get annoyed by Amber Alert notifications either. It’s horribly selfish IMO. A friend of mine made a complaint on social media about getting an alert. Then not even a month later a friend of his had an Amber Alert go out on her child who had been unlawfully taken by the non-custodial parent. So at least my friend learned, and owned, and corrected his selfishness. It’s just so sad it was because of another missing child.
      I also agree that the criteria is too strict for an Amber Alert.

  • @kimberlys8422
    @kimberlys8422 2 года назад +4264

    Shelia is a true psychopath in that she was sitting with Skylar's room with her parents crying crocodile tears; Sky was their only daughter and she pretending to offer comfort to them when she knew where Skylar was and was had happened. Their sorrow gave her a sick thrill.
    Shelia liked running animals over for fun prior to the murder which is what a budding serial killer would do.
    Rachel was a follower and her conscience ate away at her to the point she had to be put in a psychiatric hospital.

    • @pj45queen
      @pj45queen 2 года назад +81

      @Gabi Everhart omg so you knew her? How did everyone react once the truth was out? I went to high school in Maryland and when this story hit everyone was so shocked and scared so I can only imagine what it was like for y’all that actually knew them

    • @BeeTeePee
      @BeeTeePee 2 года назад +75

      The animal info is something I had not heard before.

    • @jord4207
      @jord4207 2 года назад +4

      🕊

    • @kimberlys8422
      @kimberlys8422 2 года назад +28

      @@BeeTeePee it's hearsay; regardless I wouldn't put it past her.

    • @pinkpixiemoon
      @pinkpixiemoon 2 года назад +70

      Rachel did not feel guilt. She was only living in the fear of being caught

  • @etch_e.sketched
    @etch_e.sketched Год назад +466

    Honestly, I like how Eleanor doesn't outright say the killers like how other true crime channels have, she talks about things EXACTLY how they came out and how it seemed

    • @Morqana
      @Morqana Месяц назад +4

      100% does amazing telling the story, and what it was like from everyone's perspective

  • @gennyconolley2001
    @gennyconolley2001 Год назад +1680

    An Amber Alert wouldn’t have mattered in this case even if it had been issued. She was already brutally murdered before her parents even knew she was missing. I feel so bad for her and her family. Such a horrible situation.

    • @Medusa_The-Bard
      @Medusa_The-Bard Год назад +259

      It's more of the fact that it should of happend because if it was a different situation she could have been saved

    • @NITEBEARR
      @NITEBEARR Год назад +224

      @@Medusa_The-Bard and that maybe, just maybe, there was a chance her body could've been found sooner rather than later, meaning skylars family wouldntve had to wait 6 whole months in pure confusion and a slight amount hope that skylar would be found alive.

    • @Medusa_The-Bard
      @Medusa_The-Bard Год назад +19

      @@NITEBEARR thats true as well I was thinking that lol

    • @rebellerene
      @rebellerene Год назад +73

      apple would have had to give over her phone location. they literally could've found her body the second they had the phone location, going off the assumption that neither sheila nor rachel had it, since it was active and would've been going off if they did. that would've saved the famiy months of unresolved grief, not to mention that it would've brought suspicion onto the murderers immediately as well, since there's no way skylar would walk all the way to the woods by herself. and if an amber alert was issued, maybe someone who had seen them on the road near the forest might've been able to pass up the information, which would've ripped huge holes in the perpetrators' stories. but as it was, they had no manpower, no influence and no resources, so it took one of the killers' breaking down to truly solve the case.

    • @Medusa_The-Bard
      @Medusa_The-Bard Год назад +7

      @@rebellerene this

  • @mitsurisimp2230
    @mitsurisimp2230 Год назад +1142

    The fact this could’ve been possibly prevented by them just having a conversation with skyler is honestly sickening

    • @Medusa_The-Bard
      @Medusa_The-Bard Год назад +69

      It's not even that they wanted to kill her just needed a few excuses

    • @Insertbowemoji
      @Insertbowemoji Год назад +54

      They could of literally deleted the photo than told her if she ever told they’d hurt her? Idk. But it would of been a death prevented

    • @Medusa_The-Bard
      @Medusa_The-Bard Год назад +12

      @@Insertbowemoji I don't think it would of been prevented they wanted her dead they wanted a few reasons

    • @yoojeebee
      @yoojeebee Год назад +13

      @@Medusa_The-Bard yeah i dont think that picture was The reason, it was just one more thing that made them wanna do it more which is crazy honestly

  • @melissaholland6878
    @melissaholland6878 2 года назад +6446

    those girls are truly horrible. "we really did go on 3" is such a terrible thing to tweet about MURDERING your FRIEND. and to cry and comfort skylar's parents, knowing that she's dead and that she murdered skylar is messed up to say the least. i feel so bad for skylar's poor parents.

    • @melodyecho13
      @melodyecho13 2 года назад +130

      I get chills every time I go back and read that tweet. It's absolutely horrifying. Hope they rot in prison

    • @Mamalee
      @Mamalee 2 года назад

      They’re horrible and don’t deserve freedom ever again.

    • @samih5916
      @samih5916 2 года назад +93

      Agreed, those two losers (Rachel and Sheila) make me sick and the fact that Rachel got a plea deal is just as infuriating as what she and Sheila did to poor Skylar.

    • @melissaholland6878
      @melissaholland6878 2 года назад +90

      @@samih5916 yeah. i get that sheila was the main instigator, but rachel still stabbed her. then covered it up. then continued to lie for SIX MONTHS. she only confessed when she couldnt get away with it any longer. no way does she deserve a plea deal

    • @melissaholland6878
      @melissaholland6878 2 года назад +45

      @@melodyecho13 its so odd that their twitter accounts havent been removed or anything

  • @jellogirl2010
    @jellogirl2010 Год назад +557

    They were, in my opinion, sexually harassing her and she didn't out them. So why on earth did they think she'd retaliate their breaking up their friendship by outing them? Nothing in her life pointed to her doing that. Especially since they were already edging her out of their group. It's just so horrifying.

    • @nothingposted9056
      @nothingposted9056 Год назад +56

      They projected their own personalities into her

    • @keannanutter976
      @keannanutter976 Год назад +41

      I think they just wanted an excuse and I didn't want to admit that they are just disgusting creatures that murdered that incredible girl just because they are sick individuals that just simply wanted to kill her

    • @Mizuki-dx5cu
      @Mizuki-dx5cu 6 месяцев назад +5

      They just wanted to have more sympathy because "they're a minority"

    • @kphoria1009
      @kphoria1009 6 месяцев назад +21

      @@Mizuki-dx5cui don’t think this has anything to do with it

  • @VictoryPride
    @VictoryPride Год назад +173

    The fact that the parents had to make a lawsuit against the families so that they wouldn't make money off of THE MURDER THAT THEIR DAUGHTER'S COMMITED shows how crazy it is that in this day and age people can make money off of .... Horrific things like this.May Skyler rest in peace and may her soul rest easy.

    • @Imsochloe
      @Imsochloe Год назад

      This happened almost 11 years ago

  • @darladawn1111
    @darladawn1111 2 года назад +6913

    Skyler was under 18, so the cellular contract for her phone would have been in her parents' name (since the law in the US doesn't permit minors to contact with cellular phone companies).So, technically, being that we're talking about a minor, iPhone should have been required, not only morally but legally, to give over the location. Unless perhaps the phone was already paid off or was bought somewhere other than through the service provider. Still, being a minor, the info should have been provided in an effort to locate this child IMO. This is not the only time that company has been guilty of not providing information that could have caught a killer.

    • @kdphotos4691
      @kdphotos4691 2 года назад +180

      They could if the contract was under their names (I don't know if it was or not). The reason these companies don't give over information is because all that would need to happen is for a different scenario to be the reason for them wanting to find her. Example - if she had run away and it was abusers or even murderers who wanted the information. Yes, it hurts cases like this, but phone companies *have* given over information when there was enough evidence to prove that the person was in danger. In this case, at the time, the phone company didn't have enough information to be able to hand over access because of privacy laws.
      Yes, it is tragic, but it would also be tragic if the case were to do harm to Skylar.

    • @darladawn1111
      @darladawn1111 2 года назад +281

      @@kdphotos4691 unless emancipated, children under 18 can't legally enter into a (binding) contract so it was her parents phone and they should have been able to access its whereabouts.

    • @kdphotos4691
      @kdphotos4691 2 года назад +2

      @@darladawn1111 - Do you know if the phone contract was in her name or her parent's names?

    • @5foot3rodeo5
      @5foot3rodeo5 2 года назад +190

      @@kdphotos4691 yet our phone companies sell our information and phone numbers constantly 😒

    • @jayesq.304
      @jayesq.304 2 года назад +21

      @@darladawn1111 this is not true. An underaged party can enter into enforceable contracts. Contracts are voidable only at the option of the underaged person but otherwise enforceable against the other party.

  • @nsilvereagle
    @nsilvereagle 2 года назад +784

    the worst tweet shelia made was "my favourite question is why" like jfc...sickening

    • @chrissylekas
      @chrissylekas 2 года назад

      Oh my god that’s horrible what a fucking psycho

    • @timetravelingshark8811
      @timetravelingshark8811 2 года назад +136

      oh what the FUCK, that's genuinely evil

    • @sandraswan9008
      @sandraswan9008 2 года назад +65

      What is wrong with her, omg

    • @cloudysensation8406
      @cloudysensation8406 2 года назад +70

      How can a 16 year old be so sinister... that's so disturbing

    • @MasterMq8
      @MasterMq8 2 года назад

      Stone-cold murderer trash

  • @rebeccajeanne679
    @rebeccajeanne679 10 месяцев назад +121

    As of May 9th this year (2023) Rachel Shoaf was denied parole 🎉

    • @Rachel2412able
      @Rachel2412able 5 месяцев назад +17

      Hopefully the witch will always been denied parole.

    • @Beano1986
      @Beano1986 4 месяца назад

      @@Rachel2412ableunfortunately she will be out after 30 years regardless and she was only sentenced up to 30 years. Sheila on the other hand… lots hope she leaves in a box

    • @gyeomibear
      @gyeomibear 2 месяца назад +6

      I felt a bit bad for her cuz she seemed remorseful, but seeing that smug smile on her face? Disgusting. She should rot in jail

  • @angelicaduncan9694
    @angelicaduncan9694 Год назад +406

    Imagine being so psychopathic, envious, and egotistical, that murdering a supposed best friend, would be easier than being friends with them. Skylar was a beautiful, loving, and responsible individual. She had incredibly loving parents. Poor baby I hope her family is doing as well as they can these days. ♥️

  • @Simplysummers
    @Simplysummers 2 года назад +2936

    I just want to say it was also common knowledge that Shiela would kill defenceless animals with her car as some sort of sick game. She would run over rabbits and yell “20 points!” with Rachel, Skylar and another friend, Daniel, in the car, knocking Sky and Dan sick to their stomachs. A true, true psychopath. It wasn’t just a fear of being outed, at least not with Shelia, she was genuinely just twisted.
    Source: Pretty Little Killers, a factual book documenting all the ins and outs of this case.

    • @universal_stupidity
      @universal_stupidity 2 года назад +283

      unfortunately, this isn't actually that uncommon in small town west Virginia, not everyone does it, but it's not that uncommon for teens as part of hunting culture. it's definitely still gross and wierd, but I guarantee she wasn't the only one in her school who would purposefully hit animals
      source: I live here unfortunately

    • @vi9486
      @vi9486 2 года назад +175

      @@universal_stupidity still tje BIGGEST red flag and the biggest telling on her character.

    • @MyTimelord11
      @MyTimelord11 2 года назад +101

      Lol that's fucked because so many people around where I live do this. I want to tell you it's just common and that doesnt mean anything but part of me is also like "maybe I just live with a bunch of psychopaths" lol

    • @universal_stupidity
      @universal_stupidity 2 года назад +114

      @@MyTimelord11 it's not "normal" but when it's considered socially and culturally acceptable in the area, it doesn't mean someone is inherently mentally ill or "twisted" because they participate in it, imo. I also think it's morally wrong to hunt if you don't need it to survive tho, and that's not at all ethical hunting, so I'm not justifying it

    • @MyTimelord11
      @MyTimelord11 2 года назад +27

      @@universal_stupidity yeah I agree it isnt inhentetly deviant but I also do not like it. It makes me sad when other people try to do it. Thankfully I dont see it as much now that I'm older. I personally don't think hunting is an issue. Maybe it's just my culture. I couldn't do it though. It sounds very boring from everything I heard and I just dont think I could pull the trigger. I dont see how store bought meat is any better ethically speaking but to each their own

  • @Kb-gh2rk
    @Kb-gh2rk 2 года назад +1210

    This happened in my home town. I had run ins with the girls that did this to her a few times and my best friend was close friends with Skylar Growing up and she said she was genuinely one of the sweetest people she ever knew. What happened to her was horrific. I remember the day the found her. We threw a big party a few nights before at my friends property. Then just days later they found her body within like a hundred yard of the entrance to that property. It shook our town. Parents looked at their children’s friends with more judgment and suspicion for a long time. No one talks about it anymore. But we all know what happened. Those girls deserve every day in prison they get. I think about her family a lot now that I have kids of my own. I hope they can heal….

    • @jessiegeeemfff1043
      @jessiegeeemfff1043 2 года назад +6

      Do the girls parents support them in prison ? if you know 😊

    • @Kb-gh2rk
      @Kb-gh2rk 2 года назад +50

      @@jessiegeeemfff1043 I believe Rachel’s does. Sheila I don’t know about as much.

    • @jessiegeeemfff1043
      @jessiegeeemfff1043 2 года назад +7

      it's such a sad case. do you know how Skylar's fam is holding up

    • @user-ep3fo5vw1v
      @user-ep3fo5vw1v 2 года назад +39

      @@jessiegeeemfff1043 Shelia’s parents made sure she was very comfortable and paid her legal fees, they are very enabling.
      I don’t know about Rachel’s but I’m sure they visit her.

    • @Kb-gh2rk
      @Kb-gh2rk 2 года назад +28

      @@jessiegeeemfff1043 I don’t know them well. I think my friend has spoken to them once or twice and from what I understand it’s about what you would expect. I know the ten year anniversary of her passing is July sixth so I’m sure that is going to be very hard. Like I said I didn’t personally know her though so I don’t want to misrepresent that. I can only imagine I what they are going through right now. I’m sure it’s very hard to relive all the trauma at such a mile marker year. I would understand that from anyone.

  • @aspenanimates3644
    @aspenanimates3644 7 месяцев назад +135

    As a teenager girl about to go into Highschool, this is terrifying. I relate to Skylar a lot in her personality and her relationships. I have a few friends I’ve been kind of distant with and are going to the same Highschool as. The thought of them taking me out into the woods and stabbing me because I’ve been distant or because they didn’t like the way I’ve been acting terrifies me. If anyone invites me to go out very late without anyone knowing, this story is the reason I will say no.

    • @vanya_cat
      @vanya_cat 3 месяца назад

      same, i relate to skylar alot also and this case has scared the shit out of me

  • @nympeth
    @nympeth 8 месяцев назад +62

    whenever i watch these videos, i find myself always rooting for the victim to pull through as i follow the story, even though i know its a murder case :(

  • @zayie
    @zayie 2 года назад +4479

    Honestly, the way Eleanor just presents each case is so well done.

  • @BabyBlasty
    @BabyBlasty 2 года назад +4107

    Hi, my friend and her baby were murdered in October 2020. It was initially reported to The Patch as a murder/suicide, which I think really messed up the investigation. Just a couple months ago, the family received their death certificates ruling their deaths as a homicide. Unfortunately it sounds like the police really missed some important steps and are now having a hard time finding information. Additionally, it was not covered on any major or local news outlet besides The Patch. We believe we know who the murder (possible murderers) is/are, but we really need help getting their story out there as still no one has been charged.
    If you are interested in covering her case, it would mean so much to her friends and family. I can give you the full story, and get you in touch with family members.
    Thank you for everything that you do!

    • @briannanielsen3312
      @briannanielsen3312 2 года назад +260

      she really needs to see this!!! i think if you join her chanel members you can suggest cases in a way she would see them faster !!

    • @BabyBlasty
      @BabyBlasty 2 года назад +148

      @@briannanielsen3312 I will do that, thank you!!

    • @torim3090
      @torim3090 2 года назад +16

      ^^

    • @munnyyhunnyy
      @munnyyhunnyy 2 года назад +16

      eleanor!!!!^^^^

    • @allthingstvdstrangerthings5960
      @allthingstvdstrangerthings5960 2 года назад +58

      Can I re-post this in the comment section to help?

  • @heatherknoxt
    @heatherknoxt Год назад +233

    For clarity, one of the requirements for an amber alert is that there needs to be info on the suspected kidnapper and their vehicle, and there needs to be reasonable suspicion that the victim is in danger. It SUCKS that without an AA, info isn’t shared as widely when a kid goes missing. 😔

    • @ava1986
      @ava1986 Год назад +8

      yeah it sucks, but im pretty sure that Skylar's parents got a law passed called Skylar's Law which says that in WV, an amber alert can be issued on suspicion alone, no kidnapper description or anything

  • @honnyey840
    @honnyey840 Год назад +78

    Never ever has a crime documentary made me this emotional. This poor girl, poor parents - i cant even begin to imagine the pain they must have gone through. May Skylar's soul rest in peace.

  • @iammarkzuckerberg
    @iammarkzuckerberg 2 года назад +998

    this case always makes me so incredibly mad. those two “friends” are some of the most disgusting and horrible people i’ve ever heard of. they GROSS me out. “we really did go on 3”, oh my god

    • @rebeccat7912
      @rebeccat7912 2 года назад +11

      Right? I remember when this happened and, ever since, I still wince at the name Sheila because I always end up thinking of these two heinous individuals.

    • @iammarkzuckerberg
      @iammarkzuckerberg 2 года назад +1

      @@rebeccat7912 yeah i definitely get that! horrible people, man.

    • @ravenstone1988
      @ravenstone1988 2 года назад

      What does that mean?

    • @iammarkzuckerberg
      @iammarkzuckerberg 2 года назад

      @@ravenstone1988 what does what mean? :)

    • @kdphotos4691
      @kdphotos4691 2 года назад +2

      Oh, there are much worse people out there. Never change because it isn't good to know what horrors people have done to others.

  • @katsuyafeather1309
    @katsuyafeather1309 2 года назад +5176

    As a lesbian, being outted as a teenager is a terrifying situation to go through. However, it is never a reason to murder. The most brave thing you can do is take it as it comes and stand up for yourself. Be kind, be understanding and forgiving once you've felt hurt.. and know there is nothing wrong with you. But never ever consider hurting another person because you have been hurt.

    • @user-jb1mb5xh9t
      @user-jb1mb5xh9t 2 года назад +78

      It's so much better to be the bigger person, there have been a worrying amount of people who grow up surrounded by bad people who choose to succumb to that darkness and become one of them rather than rise above and actually make something good out of their life. These two girls most likely had violent tendencies anyway and mightve done a similar thing down the line if not to skylar, but i wonder what they could've become if they decided to take the high road

    • @asmrtpop2676
      @asmrtpop2676 2 года назад +286

      @@user-jb1mb5xh9t why is it on marginalized people to be the bigger person? also this was murder. murder performed by people who sexually harassed skylar by forcing her to be present during their activities.

    • @asmrtpop2676
      @asmrtpop2676 2 года назад +253

      being outted can mean your very life is on the line so it’s a little jaded to tell outted individuals to not consider hurting someone back.
      anyway these girls literally sexually harassed skylar by performing acts without skylar’s consent. skylar did not purposely out them and that is a HUGE difference to the outing that normally happens. let’s focus on THAT. 👍🏻

    • @katsuyafeather1309
      @katsuyafeather1309 2 года назад +108

      @@asmrtpop2676 I don't care whats happened, revenge isn't the answer. Hurting someone back won't make you happy. It will just make you someone who hurts others and perpetuate the cycle of violence. It's a bit jaded of you to believe retaliating is an ok solution. Maybe you should check your values and morals

    • @biteydevil
      @biteydevil 2 года назад +49

      I feel you, but I understand lesbians and gay trans men have different experiences. As someone who was outted in highschool, I sincerely hope you yourself havent been outted and im hoping the best for every lgbtq+ person who sees this.

  • @ultimatewitcherfan6677
    @ultimatewitcherfan6677 Год назад +215

    I remember this case like it was yesterday. I was 17 at the time, and about to be a senior in high school that September. I was disgusted that the amber alert system refused to issue one for Skylar. Also, I knew Sheila and Rachael definitely knew more than they were telling people. It’s horrific that they could kill someone’s and act like nothing had happened. I understand that they were afraid Skyler would leak that selfie she took, but that was no reason to kill her. Couldn’t they have simply asked her not to leak the photo? My parents don’t support the LGBTQ+ community either, but they still love me even though I’m bi. If Skylar was still alive today, she would be 26 years old. R.I.P Skylar

  • @Drainingmari
    @Drainingmari 7 месяцев назад +39

    this is the most heartbreaking thing I’ve ever heard. Poor Skylar may she rest in peace, I could imagine her being the most beautiful and kind and caring loving person ever but those horrible, disgusting humans took it away for her and her family.

  • @Kb-gh2rk
    @Kb-gh2rk 2 года назад +1979

    My moms roommate was killed in college. Her name was Lisa Ziegert. Her case was solved two years ago with DNA but it’s an extremely interesting case. It’s a pretty famous case actually. Everyone thought it was a male friend of theirs for a long time and he was hated and blamed by everyone. It wasn’t him in the end.

    • @Maya-dw5jz
      @Maya-dw5jz 2 года назад +19

      Sounds interesting do you have the name for the case? I'd love to look it up!

    • @candiedpandie
      @candiedpandie 2 года назад +89

      @@Maya-dw5jz she said her name was Lisa Ziegert ~

    • @taniyadanae
      @taniyadanae 2 года назад +46

      this case was actually covered by another youtuber, i haven’t watched it yet but im about to.
      here’s the link: ruclips.net/video/Wc_9I2EPAvw/видео.html

    • @Kb-gh2rk
      @Kb-gh2rk 2 года назад +4

      @@taniyadanae thank you!!

    • @eden20111
      @eden20111 2 года назад +12

      So did they ever apologize to the male friend? Prob not

  • @Dances.In.Storms
    @Dances.In.Storms 2 года назад +934

    I don't believe that the secret relationship was the motive behind this murder at all, at most it may have been a manipulation tactic on Sheila's part to encourage Rachel's involvement . I think the real and only reason for this sickening and abhorrent act was that it was a thrill kill , pure and simple. Both of these girls are evil and I don't believe that Sheila in particular should ever be deemed safe to be returned to society.
    My heart goes out to Skylars family .

    • @BBrunnel
      @BBrunnel 2 года назад +77

      I do think Sheila was jealous of Skylar though. Sheila came from a pretty poor background, and I think a documentary said that she had a shit upbringing too. Seeing Skylar come from a loving home and having supportive parents probably threw off her the rails. Not to mention, she was an attention seeker and was loud and over confident while Skylar was quiet but pretty nice so people were probably attracted to that more than Sheila's rambunctious personality. The fact she even started hurting her neck said a lot to me on Sheila's part. I do think Sheila's part was very narcissistic though. Although she didn't like Skylar, she was angry that Skylar started moving on from her and became enraged as a result. I know narcissists get very angry when you leave them aka reject them, and so, Sheila decided to get revenge in return. I'm not quite sure about Rachel's motive; hers confuses me a bit because she never really had a reason. I do think it's more than a thrill kill because there are usual signs to pinpoint thrill kills like killing of animals, violent outbursts, watching violent stuff online, morbid fascinations etc. These two don't seem to have had any of these qualities outside of planning it for months.

    • @rx500android
      @rx500android 2 года назад +52

      I agree. As a closeted lesbian in a secret relationship, I would have never EVER even think of hurting another person, let alone one of my friends. They're just stone cold killers.

    • @Sasha75995
      @Sasha75995 2 года назад +2

      @@BBrunnel Sheila and her mom are very close. But her dad did get disabled and they got divorced and she got remarried right after to a well off guy. Plus I watched one of snap documentaries and Rachel comes from a rich background.

    • @user-yk5tj9xp7l
      @user-yk5tj9xp7l 2 года назад

      I agree

    • @M.S.Y.C
      @M.S.Y.C 2 года назад +3

      her fake friends should be in jail for life

  • @Nizhonibearcreek
    @Nizhonibearcreek Год назад +103

    As a mother who lost her child when she was 10 to a drunk driver , I hope that is some way skylars parents can find some peace and joy anywhere they can I hope their hearts have started to heal , they will never ever be whole ever again their hearts will forever be broken but I hope they can find some peace In the fact that she is happy and safe and loved where ever she is , she will be watching and loving you from afar forever, till you see her again Rest In Peace little one ❤️A’HO ❤️

    • @ginny.w05
      @ginny.w05 Год назад +5

      all my prayers to you mama❤ u are so strong x

  • @g.m.a.1275
    @g.m.a.1275 Год назад +56

    I’m from the Netherlands and this case is also very known in our country. I hate it when people try to figure out who was the bad seed. They’re both pure evil, because they BOTH planned the murder for months… Rachel shouldn’t even be sentenced for second degree murder. Murder is murder.
    R.I.P. Skylar 🕊️❤️

  • @juniordax9777
    @juniordax9777 2 года назад +849

    So evil, I hope they are never let out of jail. Disgusting examples of human life.
    To be so callous and tweet "we really did go on three" while simultaneously pretending to assist the investigation and search for the very person they killed is just horribly evil.
    That poor girl, Skylar, I hope she knows that she was too good for them and this world and I hope she is at least able to find some peace.

    • @viatheanimator
      @viatheanimator 2 года назад +54

      she also tweeted out "'why' is my favorite question." you know, the last words of her murder victim? she's less than remorseless; she thought it was funny. she thought she was so powerful for doing what she did, and felt absolutely no qualms about taking a life and ruining dozens of others

    • @ItsLouski
      @ItsLouski 2 года назад +7

      What does the tweet "We really did go on three" mean? Im trying very hard to figure it out, but I don't get the meaning haha

    • @juniordax9777
      @juniordax9777 2 года назад +24

      @@ItsLouski they counted to three then attacked and killed her. On Twitter she posted they really did it... Owning up to a murder in the most callous way possible whilst they proceeded to lie to Skylars family, friends and investigating police about everything.

    • @ItsLouski
      @ItsLouski 2 года назад +10

      @@juniordax9777 Alright, thank you for clarifying. It's sick how Sheila didn't feel any remorse

    • @juniordax9777
      @juniordax9777 2 года назад +8

      Anytime @@ItsLouski no worries. Yeah it really is. This world... Shakespeare said it best; "Hell is empty and all the devils are here."

  • @jhrae9280
    @jhrae9280 2 года назад +328

    i hope skylar would be proud from all the lives she has saved from the Skylar’s Law. Especially since she wanted to go into a criminal justice career path. Rest in peace Skylar

  • @katiebugg7018
    @katiebugg7018 Год назад +35

    These parents are SO STRONG mentally , I would 200% not have been able to handle this like they did. They let justice come legally and that’s HARD when you know someone your child LOVED murdered them..

  • @fringe9068
    @fringe9068 Год назад +791

    Theory: I believe it’s quite possible since Rachel is the rich kid, Sheila ended up taking most of the blame, and the story came out like it did. Sheila was the one who came up with this and decided it, she’s the one who planned it, Rachel was just along for the ride. Sheila was the one who delivered the killing blows ALONE and who went for Skyler’s nick, since Rachel by lucky coincidence (for her) had her knife wrestled out from her, despite being physically the biggest out of the three. I believe they’re both equally evil and vicious, but I don’t buy that poor Rachel was so passive during all of this, yet this same Rachel who suggested they should just distance from Skyler, stabbed her so viciously. I think she told her parents, who got her some excellent lawyers and came up with a good story to paint her in favorable light, and so that the other kid who’s middle class would take responsibility for most of it, and make Rachel out to be the “follower” impressionable party who’s not normally like this, since she’s so remorseful and so unsettled by what happened, crying and breaking down etc. Prior to her confession police and school both reported they were acting in the same manner, prior to her confession “family” reported she’s been so shaken, and I believe this is when she told them and they got her some good lawyers who advised her on how to behave to eventually look better to the jury, while Sheila was on the dark that a confession was on the works and continued to behave the same way and stuck to the story that both of them firmly stuck to before since they’re equally vicious people. One more thing that worked greatly to her advantage, is that she’s the one to go first to authorities, maybe she couldn’t tell a different story that’s similar but less bad, or downplay her part anymore then she already did, because there is no telling if Sheila would confess, since I think this whole Sheila unremorseful mastermind story isn’t completely accurate. We haven’t heard from her family or their story about how their daughter was like, we only heard from the privileged family’s perspective. I’m not defending Sheila, she’s horrible and evil, I’m pointing out that she wasn’t on this on her own.
    Edit: just finished the video, turns out Rachel took a plea deal (surprise surprise) despite literally having a motive a lot stronger than Sheila, she’s the one with a background against lgbtq. While both are teens, so it’s hard to come out, if your family is religious it can be scary, while if they’re not I don’t think the motive is nearly as strong. At the end it’s really a very common thing, when a crime is committed with one or more of the persons involved is rich, the less privileged party always ends up taking the fall. Sheila looked so bad because she had worse counsel

    • @AB-ku8du
      @AB-ku8du Год назад +33

      The theory makes sense but the part where she was planning with her family falls apart when you realize Rachel’s father asked the judge to not give Rachel a plea deal. But who knows that could be premeditated as well

    • @randomgirlxrulz
      @randomgirlxrulz Год назад +116

      @@AB-ku8du Skylar's father said that, not Rachel's

    • @ylvakonradsson6270
      @ylvakonradsson6270 Год назад +67

      I try not to judge people in the way I am about to because I am aware that stressful situations make people react in different ways, but the picture of Rachel in prison just smiling and posing the same way she did in the pictures of all the girls together before the crime... IDK, Im not going to say that its proof of anything, it just doesnt look like a person who "got caught up in something and is so remorseful"

    • @fringe9068
      @fringe9068 Год назад +59

      @@AB-ku8du that’s Skyler’s father not Rachel’s, since he knows it’s bullshit she’s getting tried for second degree murder when she premeditated, planned and carried out the attack on his daughter’s life. I feel bad for him

    • @Igiuviygjih
      @Igiuviygjih Год назад +10

      not you defending her

  • @loribrooks5596
    @loribrooks5596 2 года назад +522

    It’s no wonder the one girl wanted to go to Skyler’s room. It wasn’t to feel closer to her, it was to try to find that diary with all the added “relationship” details that she did not want out 😳

    • @---ob7yj
      @---ob7yj 2 года назад +13

      OMG SO TRUEEE!!!!

    • @HopeeInk
      @HopeeInk 2 года назад +11

      I was thinking the exact same.

    • @shiningroses1789
      @shiningroses1789 2 года назад +11

      Or it was to relive what she did

    • @asmrtpop2676
      @asmrtpop2676 2 года назад +5

      @@shiningroses1789 they did it to her in a forest

    • @peach_bunnyxox8069
      @peach_bunnyxox8069 Год назад +2

      @@asmrtpop2676 it’s often a thing killers do, they go back to scenes that remind them of their victims for sick pleasure

  • @LuzMaria95
    @LuzMaria95 2 года назад +1517

    The 2 girls that killed her did NOT get enough jail time. It’s appalling.

    • @Bigtiddiegof666
      @Bigtiddiegof666 2 года назад +73

      It really is, I think if it was teenage boys it would have been very different.

    • @madeleinereads
      @madeleinereads 2 года назад +181

      I remember Skylar's father saying he would be at every parole hearing to ensure the girls do not receive parole. They shouldn't. What those girls did to Skylar was appalling and disgusting.

    • @LuzMaria95
      @LuzMaria95 2 года назад +8

      @@madeleinereads that’s good! I agree!

    • @LuzMaria95
      @LuzMaria95 2 года назад +2

      @@Bigtiddiegof666 exactly…

    • @hellofromtheotherside2177
      @hellofromtheotherside2177 2 года назад +73

      I agree! I don’t even understand why a lot people who commit murder gets lesser sentences when it should be life since they took another persons life.

  • @Office_chair
    @Office_chair Год назад +348

    I know coming out to your parents is hard especially when they're religious but there was other ways to make her delete the photo or not have the photo happen in the first place then killing her.
    Like how about just asking her to delete it ?
    OR JUST DON'T DO THAT TYPE OF STUFF IN FRONT OF HER.

  • @sienna4683
    @sienna4683 Год назад +470

    Guys she's okay. A friend or so of hers on twitter posted that she's fine and is just taking a break from social media altogether. She's okay! She's not sick.

  • @user-ep3fo5vw1v
    @user-ep3fo5vw1v 2 года назад +770

    a quick correction!
    the law enforcement did think Shelia was lying even before she said she would take a lie detector test, especially Officer Jessica Colebank because she thought Shelia's demeanor and behavior was wrong and narcissistic, and the girls changed details and were caught in lies. Rachel was the one fidgeting, touching her hair and avoiding eye contact while Shelia was very confident, always keeping eye contact and having her hands on the table.
    Great video, I absolutely loved it!

    • @cassie1264
      @cassie1264 2 года назад +117

      I don't think Rachel would have murdered anyone if she hadn't met Sheila. Obviously, Rachel is responsible for her own actions and should face the consequences, but I think she was easily manipulated by Sheila and the guilt ate away at her. I think Sheila is a stone cold psychopath. She doesn't feel a drop of remorse for what they did to Skylar.

    • @trsjk188dd__
      @trsjk188dd__ 2 года назад +2

      interesting!

    • @xxmousexx960
      @xxmousexx960 2 года назад +30

      @@cassie1264 oh, I absolutely agree!
      I wonder if Sheila went over the edge if/when she fell in love with Rachel. It’s an interesting thought.

    • @user-ep3fo5vw1v
      @user-ep3fo5vw1v 2 года назад +28

      @@cassie1264 I agree! Shelia is 100% a psychopath with the way she was able to sit and cry with Skylar’s mom, and that she was very confident during interviews with the FBI.
      Rachel had at least a little remorse to stay away from the Neese’s, again, not saying she’s innocent in any way, but o do believe Rachel had some remorse on some level, but she still did it and she deserves to rot for it.
      I think both of the girls hyped each other up about it, but I truly believe that if shelia hadn’t been caught, she would have done it again.

    • @Sasha75995
      @Sasha75995 2 года назад +1

      And Sheila agreed to take the lie detector test and she failed.

  • @yoosyeni
    @yoosyeni 2 года назад +7841

    The last lawsuit was really smart, the parents will never see their daughter ever again, but at least they put these girls through as much trouble as they could legally. The parent’s lawyer did a really good job
    Edit: omg what the hell 6,9k likes. Can I consider myself popular now?😂

    • @eiwansk
      @eiwansk 2 года назад +113

      Really was a smart move.

    • @r1ydontcare
      @r1ydontcare 2 года назад +16

      ikrrr

    • @MommaSullens
      @MommaSullens 2 года назад +138

      Yes indeed! Very glad the parents had good representation and went the right path with protective and smart asks to better protect their family’s heartache & their daughter’s beautiful legacy for the rest of these girls lives. Sending peace and comfort to the family and to Skylar in Heaven.

    • @steph9054
      @steph9054 2 года назад

      I honestly wouldn't be surprised if those girls tried to profit off of the murder through books or interviews so I'm really glad that the lawsuit prevents that.

    • @alanamacneill88
      @alanamacneill88 2 года назад +1

      Thankfully

  • @TryinBin8889
    @TryinBin8889 Год назад +34

    This case has always made me nauseous. The thing that makes me most disgusted is trying to coverup their relationship by murdering someone. As if that wasn't going to expose them to the whole world. Absolutely insane.

  • @NathalieMacleod
    @NathalieMacleod 6 месяцев назад +14

    The way you present this story in a linear way with twists and layers is really impressive, as most true crime channels tend to tell cases like this in a boring retrospective style that doesn't capture the horror and betrayal to the same extent. You're a fantastic storyteller and I'm already a fan :))

  • @phildrake5432
    @phildrake5432 2 года назад +2767

    Oh dear I’m clearly an odd one out, if if most of your listeners are teenage girls?! I’m a 34 year old man. But I have been following your videos for nearly 3 years now and I am still in love with them and all of your legendary work!

    • @deniseoverkleeft2119
      @deniseoverkleeft2119 2 года назад +252

      I think it’s mostly women that love true crime! I’m 38 and grew up with Americas most wanted and cops every Saturday 😂

    • @darksided6527
      @darksided6527 2 года назад +186

      No shame in that!

    • @Error_-ct2vp
      @Error_-ct2vp 2 года назад +160

      @@deniseoverkleeft2119 lmao I’m a 20 year old dude

    • @Error_-ct2vp
      @Error_-ct2vp 2 года назад +217

      Don’t worry man I’m a 20 year old man and my two buddies are 25 and 27 and we all watch Eleanor and other true crime channels.

    • @gwanagirl
      @gwanagirl 2 года назад +111

      @Phil Drake I don’t think it matters Phil we like what we like and I’m sure Eleanor appreciate’s your support. I’m not a teen I’m a 43 yr old woman and Eleanor is around same age as my kids so it’s all good.☺️

  • @whattheheckunnie677
    @whattheheckunnie677 2 года назад +562

    I remember watching the first video on this case and being so shocked. But what makes it sickening to me is how shiela acted as if she was really affected to the point where she even fooled skylar's parents. My heart goes out to her parents and i hope Skylar is in a better place

  • @ay1a341
    @ay1a341 Год назад +76

    I want to give skylar a hug this is truly heartbreaking and she did not get the justice she deserves. I honestly have no idea how anyone could do something this awful.

    • @niceguysfinishlast
      @niceguysfinishlast 5 месяцев назад

      ...the girls got sentenced to prison and one was just recently denied parole, there was a law made in her name, and the parents were sued...that's better justice than most victims

  • @__ana.rose__
    @__ana.rose__ Год назад +64

    Normally listening to these never really faced me, probably just because I'm not good with emotions, but listening to this one really made me feel anger and sadness. It just infuriates me that Shiela had the audacity to ask to go to Skylar's room and had an emotional moment with her mother, knowing what she did. And just the fact that Skylar was just asking "why" as the two people she potentially trusted most were stabbing her like lunatics makes me feel really sick. They could've been civil and ACTUALLY talk to her about their friendship. If they just talked about it, Skylar would be alive, and Shiela and Rachel wouldn't be in jail.

  • @MommaKoala95
    @MommaKoala95 2 года назад +644

    thank you so much for telling the story of Skylar Neese. I went to school with her but didn't know her very well but we all felt like it was her "friends". I also wanted to let you know their was another murder about a year after Skylars death, my friend Kevin Hudson and his family was murdered. If you can also tell his story that would be so great. A lot of people don't remember it happening :'(

    • @LanaBanana93
      @LanaBanana93 2 года назад +48

      I am terribly sorry about your friend. I really hope Eleanor does a case on it, or another RUclipsr does one, or it gets more attention. Any victim deserves their story to be told and its the worst when their story hadn't been fulfilled. I wish the remaining family and you and the people he loved the best of life's moving on in the future. I would love to hear the full story and think the connection of it also being in the same town it interesting. I wish you the best! 🤎

    • @rainbowraccoon6198
      @rainbowraccoon6198 Год назад +21

      you should try emailing and Dming her on instagram, she would probably see your email! I would also recommend emailing more true crime you tubers, Kendall Rea would be a good person to email to! I hope this case gets coverage I am so sorry

    • @blanchesss
      @blanchesss Год назад +4

      email her!! she might see it

  • @kellie5476
    @kellie5476 2 года назад +768

    I'm a true crime junkie but there's certain cases that just never leave me, this is certainly one of them. Skylar deserved so much better than these attention seeking psychopaths.

    • @daisymay6505
      @daisymay6505 2 года назад +3

      The one that stuck to me permanently is the Albert fish case, completely sickening

    • @jessiea1783
      @jessiea1783 2 года назад +3

      This and shanda sharer's, i think because they are so similar, something about kids murdering kids

    • @SharpShadow7
      @SharpShadow7 2 года назад +1

      I have seen a lot of case’s and very few I have to pause it for a moment to step aside and this was one of them, when they slowly watch her die is pure evil.

    • @Kailee_B
      @Kailee_B 2 года назад +1

      yeah I remember when this first happened and hearing about it everywhere I saw Kendall Rae’s video on it awhile ago and for some reason it’s just never left me

    • @shaylaaaa701
      @shaylaaaa701 Год назад

      This and the Junko Furuta case

  • @snuffun
    @snuffun Год назад +59

    I dont know why but this particular case is so appealing to me. I can literally watch any move/show or listen to any crime emotionless but this just gets to me. The months of preparation and the coldness of the two girls, the faking over months and the fact that one of them literally kept an emotionless face on through 8 years of that. Also you made an amazing job on presenting and telling the story, super easy to follow so idk welldone i guess

  • @scottcharney1091
    @scottcharney1091 Год назад +91

    Twenty years earlier, the murder of Shanda Sharer (in small-town southern Indiana) involved a lesbian (or perhaps bisexual) love triangle, but the girls involved were pretty open about their sexual orientations. That's a really interesting difference.

    • @scottcharney1091
      @scottcharney1091 Год назад +1

      @Bumper Chip That, or perhaps bisexual, or perhaps just experimenting... in any case, the contrast is really interesting.

  • @theirronbars
    @theirronbars 2 года назад +647

    I sometimes wondered why some kids would do something this horrible to another kid, especially one they considered a friend. I hope the monsters continue to rot in prison.

    • @sandiemable
      @sandiemable 2 года назад +20

      I think they should have put those girls in a room with Skylar's parents...

    • @emptysekai
      @emptysekai 2 года назад +8

      "especially one they considered a friend" did u even watch the video

    • @honeycrispsnail4032
      @honeycrispsnail4032 2 года назад +5

      as horrible as this case is, I can somehow see this type of thing happening in high school. just cuz my class hates each other and the cliques are insane.

    • @kingayy9267
      @kingayy9267 2 года назад +6

      @emptysekai
      "Considered" is in past tense.
      They _considered_ Skylar a friend in the past.

    • @theirronbars
      @theirronbars 2 года назад

      @@kingayy9267 Touche

  • @apoorvamodgil8164
    @apoorvamodgil8164 2 года назад +388

    IMO playing with the emotions of victims family is almost as bad as the crime itself . Shame on these two girls. This family did not deserved this, nobody does 😔😭

    • @lizajane2971
      @lizajane2971 2 года назад +22

      Yes! When I think that Skylar's parents were comforting their daughter's murderer... 🤮

    • @renepare3996
      @renepare3996 2 года назад +6

      Absolutely takes a truly sick person

  • @CloutKamui
    @CloutKamui Год назад +462

    It’s so irritating how many bystanders there were before the murder. Teachers, students, they ALL knew about this before it happened, someone should have said something. ANYTHING. Skylar should still be alive today.

    • @yawninglion1677
      @yawninglion1677 Год назад +121

      I mean, my friends and I have discussed things like this jokingly before and we're not murderers. Like, unless you have the context then it can just seem like some random dark conversations that people just sometimes have. Now, if a bystander had heard the girls specifically talk about murdering Shelia, that'd be different...

    • @Szystedt
      @Szystedt Год назад +3

      @@yawninglion1677 Yeah, definitely, my friends and I have definitely jokingly had similar conversations to this skit: ruclips.net/video/DqeXIn_dSFo/видео.html

    • @rebellerene
      @rebellerene Год назад +44

      it's easy to say that, but i don't think it's their fault. the killers were teenage girls. it's weirder to jump to the conclusion that they're planning an actual murder than to think they're joking around. suspension of disbelief is a very strong thing, especially when these are people you know and interact with on a daily basis. it's also extremely hard to accuse them of planning a murder. remember that it's a very serious accusation, and all you have is your word. and it would literally be you against the world. no one would believe you. even the police with all that evidence before rachel's confession, didn't even think of the possibility that they were murderers.
      so please don't pin the blame on innocents. i know it's heartbreaking to read and hear about stories like these, but the only ones at fault are the murderers themselves. saying that their schoolmates and teachers were bystanders and should've done something, is like saying that skylar should have just ignored their texts and not gone out with them because she already knew they were trouble. but it's never that easy, isn't it?

    • @cheyennem25
      @cheyennem25 Год назад +14

      Rachel and Shiela are a year younger than me (Exactly in Rachel's case, we unfortunately share a birthday) and I can say that things like "Where would you hide a body" was something you'd hear really often at high schools in the 2010s. If I heard people talking about that, I don't think I would register it even if someone had gone missing. Maybe I'm just waaay too trusting though

    • @ksnndnfr6101
      @ksnndnfr6101 Год назад +4

      @@rebellerene strongly agree with this comment

  • @flipmode45
    @flipmode45 Год назад +36

    I lived in her hometown Morgantown when this happened (attending WVU), I remember that summer when I first saw the “missing” posters around town. Hearing the rumors, their whole school really knew who did it for months. Devastating story, you just cry when her dad would be interviewed on the news. He seems like such a nice guy, my heart really goes out to Skyler’s family.

  • @SuperSara924
    @SuperSara924 2 года назад +323

    I remember catching the Dr Phil episode Skylar’s parents were on. Even though it had been a few years you could just tell they were still torn up from losing their daughter. Her dad even broke down crying cause of how much he missed her. Rachel and Shelia truly broke these people’s hearts and to call them evil is an understatement imo

    • @rme1383
      @rme1383 2 года назад +8

      That's what jealousy do to a person. Turns them into a monster

    • @LeolaGlamour
      @LeolaGlamour 2 года назад +5

      @@rme1383 Jealousy doesn’t make you kill

    • @Unbreakable245
      @Unbreakable245 2 года назад +2

      Not rachel
      She was kind of manipulated by Shelia
      I feel a little bit sorry for her

    • @ThePathOfLeastResistanc
      @ThePathOfLeastResistanc 2 года назад +5

      I don’t think any amount of years takes away the pain of losing a child.

  • @melanielouise635
    @melanielouise635 2 года назад +512

    This case is one of the most heartbreaking out there- some people are just truly nasty.
    RIP Skylar

    • @mollywrright
      @mollywrright 2 года назад +7

      @Fern 😼😼 any case is tragic, there’s no need to compare

    • @anyuser5788
      @anyuser5788 2 года назад

      @Fern 😼😼 why the fuck are you comparing cases where people have been murdered?! wtf is wrong with you

    • @amiraj4838
      @amiraj4838 2 года назад

      @Fern 😼😼 comparing murders based on tragedy is disgusting, grow up

    • @amiraj4838
      @amiraj4838 2 года назад

      @Fern 😼😼 comparing murders based on tragedy is disgusting, grow up

    • @amiraj4838
      @amiraj4838 2 года назад

      @Fern 😼😼 Comparing murders based on tragedy is disgusting , grow up

  • @mistersharpee6116
    @mistersharpee6116 Год назад +26

    my mom knew skylar's parents because they lived in the same town. it still so devistating and heartbreaking what happened to her and what her family was put through. rip skylar neese

  • @rhonakanen778
    @rhonakanen778 Год назад +78

    I have watched this on Mrballens channel already a million times but it still shocks me how cold hearted and two sided some people can be.

    • @arosefortes6507
      @arosefortes6507 Год назад

      Same. He has some really good stories and tells them so well.

  • @meganwoehl5277
    @meganwoehl5277 2 года назад +300

    Hi Eleanor! Please cover Savannah Greywind (went missing while 8 months pregnant) or Chad Isaak (insane quadruple homicide with no known motive)! I lived close to both crimes as they happened....Chad Isaak's murder spree happened just blocks from my house. You are always sooo respectful of the cases you cover and go into all the details everyone else skips over (like what the victim's were like, the hobbies they enjoyed, etc). Would love to see these cases covered with the respect they deserve. Also, there was a case from the 90s here, Michael Neugebauer, a boy/young adult who murdered his entire family and went on the run. My mom and dad were actually pulled over because my dad drove the same vehicle they were looking for and matched Michael's description. Luckily my grandpa was following behind in another car, helping my parents move, and was able to corroborate that my dad wasn't the man they were looking for.

    • @AshleyRachelleArts
      @AshleyRachelleArts 2 года назад +5

      Boosting this comment!

    • @katj3443
      @katj3443 2 года назад +1

      Yes this please!!!!

    • @shitneyb5562
      @shitneyb5562 2 года назад +1

      Strange... that sounds pretty dark... and mysterious... Someone tag Mr Ballin!!!
      Dude I was pulled over for a Michael Murder too, weird.

    • @xine.7701
      @xine.7701 2 года назад

      oh woah

  • @eleanorhj2432
    @eleanorhj2432 2 года назад +434

    this case was probably the first true crime case I ever heard about. it's such a sad tale, my heart just aches for her parents and for skylar herself. I hope she's resting well. I'm still discovering new aspects about the case from this video -- testament to eleanor's research!! so proud of you eleanor, you're giving us a good name

    • @leahsayshi510
      @leahsayshi510 2 года назад +2

      she got a lot of things wrong about this case

    • @marionfriedenthal7352
      @marionfriedenthal7352 2 года назад +3

      @@leahsayshi510 I thought there were some things that were different. One being who went to the car for the lighter. Other reports said Skylar did that. But Eleanor did a good job of recounting Skylar's tragic fate.

  • @sadafwizared4797
    @sadafwizared4797 Год назад +38

    this makes me cry , i remember seeing the missing person post .hearing what happen to her is so sad .

  • @orlaith_2910
    @orlaith_2910 Год назад +83

    Knowing Shelia murdered skylar and was going around helping with the search is horrifying

  • @limacharlieromeo8955
    @limacharlieromeo8955 2 года назад +165

    The irony that they killed her because they didn’t want to be outed to their parents, friends etc, but in doing this they were outed to the world.
    Hopefully the parole board see past their disingenuous apologies.

    • @LanaBanana93
      @LanaBanana93 2 года назад +11

      It's so obvious that murder was not the choice, there were so many things the girls could've done instead of hurting her. It's upsetting that a life had to end just because they were scared.

    • @peach_bunnyxox8069
      @peach_bunnyxox8069 Год назад +17

      @@LanaBanana93 it was most definitely not because they were scared, they had planned this the whole time and used it as an excuse. As a gay woman, his is just twisted

    • @joltyflare
      @joltyflare Год назад +10

      @@peach_bunnyxox8069 Agreed. As someone who has bad anxiety and paranoia, I would never even THINK to kill someone out of "fear." It's not like a fight-or-flight type fear where you're in immediate danger and need to fight your way out. It's an anxiety-type fear. They planned this out of spite 100%

  • @beckydavidson
    @beckydavidson 2 года назад +316

    Absolutely heartbreaking. I can’t imagine how betrayed and scared she would have felt when her friends turned on her like that. Rest in peace you sweet sweet girl xx

  • @jazlynvasquez516
    @jazlynvasquez516 6 месяцев назад +41

    Knowing she might be eligible for parole this year is crazy

    • @rileyywhited
      @rileyywhited 6 месяцев назад +12

      i think she got denied parole recently

    • @theashwoodfaerie2
      @theashwoodfaerie2 Месяц назад

      Shelia is up for parole in a few years time hopefully she'll be be denied too

    • @davidfairweather3301
      @davidfairweather3301 2 дня назад

      @@theashwoodfaerie2Sheila will be denied but I’m pretty sure Rachel will be out in 2028. The deal she cut and the way the law works in that state means if Rachel has behaved in prison, her projected release date is 2028 which is half of the 30 years sentence

    • @theashwoodfaerie2
      @theashwoodfaerie2 День назад

      @@davidfairweather3301 Rachel was already up for parole and got denied

    • @davidfairweather3301
      @davidfairweather3301 День назад

      @@theashwoodfaerie2 yes that was her mandatory parole hearing after 10 years, but her projected release isn’t until 2028. It wasn’t surprising she got denied parole but there is a very good chance she will he let out in 2028. I hope not, but since she cut a deal for second degree murder, and by 2028 it will be 50% of her 30 year sentence, it is much more likely she will he let out.

  • @xxelliegachaxx
    @xxelliegachaxx Год назад +44

    I read Sheila's old tweets and their is so many more disgusting things she has said

  • @OGMsVixen
    @OGMsVixen 2 года назад +313

    If you want to keep your love life private, don't force your mutual friend to watch you make out. It's not like they were hiding it and Skylar somehow found out and was blackmailing them (which still would not excuse premeditated murder). I think Sheila probably got off on the risk of their "secret" getting out plus the obvious discomfort she caused Skylar. I wonder if she got a psychopathic thrill from inserting herself right up close to her victim's grieving parents and offering help. She went beyond just some obligatory tears and searches. Sheila could have avoided dealing with Skylar's parents by pretending to deal with her shock and worry by withdrawing. Instead, she repeatedly put herself in a position to get sympathy from her victim's parents and observe their pain up close.

    • @derekoshaughnessy9809
      @derekoshaughnessy9809 2 года назад +1

      I dont get ya sorry, what secret?

    • @OGMsVixen
      @OGMsVixen 2 года назад +23

      @@derekoshaughnessy9809 Sheila & Rachel were romantically involved and allegedly freaked out when they realized Skylar's selfie caught the two of them making out in the background.

    • @derekoshaughnessy9809
      @derekoshaughnessy9809 2 года назад +3

      @@OGMsVixen Sorry i didn't have the patience to wait until the end. Lol thank you Ms. 🤦‍♂️💐

    • @OGMsVixen
      @OGMsVixen 2 года назад +2

      @@derekoshaughnessy9809 No worries!

    • @RC.-
      @RC.- 2 года назад +33

      The irony is that them murdering Skylar resulted in the entire world finding out about the relationship.

  • @courtneynicolesolem9712
    @courtneynicolesolem9712 2 года назад +751

    The fact that Apple said a 16 year old girls location was “confidential” truly disgusts me… she’s a CHILD!! She’s on her parents phone plan. I cannot believe that..

    • @humanbeeing4780
      @humanbeeing4780 2 года назад +10

      they have a tos and policies...if you dont like it use android lol

    • @David-hs9su
      @David-hs9su 2 года назад +109

      @@humanbeeing4780 You're missing the point, "human being"

    • @majesticunicorn7941
      @majesticunicorn7941 2 года назад +62

      @@humanbeeing4780 the fact that you took that as a question to make a joke about it just shows what type of person you are. Wtf does what type of phone has to do with the company being ignorant of the situation?

    • @jennaxoxox4821
      @jennaxoxox4821 2 года назад +28

      It isn’t just policy. Laws actually prevent information from being released except in very limited circumstances. The police could have gotten a warrant and Apple would have released the information to them.

    • @CertifiedGhxsty
      @CertifiedGhxsty 2 года назад +2

      @@majesticunicorn7941 cope 💀

  • @ead0132
    @ead0132 Год назад +97

    As someone who is lgbt+ I completely understand the panic that must’ve happened when they realized their close friend might not approve of them or that they could get outed. They simply could’ve came to their best friend with a conversation about this situation and explain themselves. But what they did was disgusting and I think Sheila’s horrific behaviour was showing itself a long time before this. It’s horrible, rest in peace Skyler❤️

    • @DitaR-zh6ko
      @DitaR-zh6ko 6 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah, there is no forgiveness for these "people". I got outed, the girl who did it isn't dead in a fucking forest. I am heartbroken.

  • @FrogBean333
    @FrogBean333 Год назад +84

    By the way! She is indeed okay and happy she was tagged in a photo 2 days ago and looks happier than ever! Hope she’s doing well!! A break is well needed at some points! ♥️

  • @scissorcorn9956
    @scissorcorn9956 2 года назад +197

    It’s so sad how when Rachel made her confession, she really thought that it would be better if the whole world/her parents knew she was a murderer, rather than knowing she was gay 💀🙏🙏🙏
    So twisted

    • @SpecialBlanket
      @SpecialBlanket 2 года назад +13

      she's not necessarily even gay. she liked one girl one time, it could be anything from completely gay to a one-off fling and barely bisexual.

    • @AngelDeed
      @AngelDeed 2 года назад +18

      Proof again that religion and religious zealotry ruins lives...

    • @Kerenscardi
      @Kerenscardi 2 года назад +24

      @@AngelDeed yeah sure blame religion and not the killer with her own free will and capacity to make her own decisions about

    • @Maddie-xm8jz
      @Maddie-xm8jz 2 года назад +5

      fr it’s so messed up. people have threatened to out me before and ive not once considered hurting them.

    • @Kerenscardi
      @Kerenscardi 2 года назад +1

      @@Maddie-xm8jz it’s true what they say it’s not about what people do or say it’s how you choose to react you can’t blame God and religion for someone’s evil and cruel response

  • @th.5597
    @th.5597 2 года назад +252

    How can the location of a missing 16-year-old's phone be "confidential"?? That's honestly messed up. I'm also wondering why they haven't checked the time of the footage of Skylar leaving her house sooner. Another highly frustrating case.

    • @joltyflare
      @joltyflare Год назад +27

      Ikr. I didn't know anyone could just say "no" to the FBI. Lmao wtf.

    • @littleshopofeldritchhorror6224
      @littleshopofeldritchhorror6224 Год назад +10

      She wasn’t classed as missing, she was classed as a runaway, and that’s why they couldn’t share it. You would think the police would have changed the classification of the case which would have allowed to get the info

    • @idek7438
      @idek7438 Год назад +1

      What if the 16 year old was running away from abusive parents or a cult and Apple gave over that info? Then you'd be like "how can they do that, it's confidential, what about privacy".

    • @th.5597
      @th.5597 Год назад +1

      @@idek7438 Nah lol I wouldn’t be like that. Nobody could know why she’s gone, hence I think her phone’s location being “confidential” while she’s literally missing is ALWAYS messed up.

  • @xxob3lla
    @xxob3lla 5 месяцев назад +11

    the way that Rachel, who wasn’t that close to Skylar; confessed, cried, and apologized for killing her, but Sheila, her best friend of 8 years, didn’t. r.i.p Skylar Earl Neese

  • @VampKard
    @VampKard 5 месяцев назад +6

    Poor Skylar, she would’ve been amazing in the criminal justice system, it’s sick and twisted that the person who felt like a sister to her could’ve done that to her showing no remorse.

  • @aquariusbabe
    @aquariusbabe 2 года назад +232

    smh, even if she “got in the car on her own” they should’ve still sent an amber alert. like just because someone knows someone or willingly goes to see them doesn’t mean they won’t murder them? most ppl are killed by someone they know anyway. it’s insane

  • @chloegrayless351
    @chloegrayless351 2 года назад +177

    this reminds me of how my old trio would act towards me and that scares and sickens me. I feel so bad for Skylar, Rest In Peace angel. I hope you know that we are sharing your story.

    • @ville666sora
      @ville666sora 2 года назад +5

      Seems a lot of "trios" of best friends that are girls end up being pretty toxic. I was also part of a "best friend trio" as a teen, and there was some jealousy when two of us would hang out without the other, or when one would hang out with someone outside of the trio. Also a lot of shit talking about the friend that wasn't there when it was just two of us together. None of us would have ever murdered anyone or even bullied anyone, but I'm still ashamed of how I acted toward my friends as a teen.

  • @herodoesstuff
    @herodoesstuff Год назад +8

    i almost cried hearing about how worried and how involved sheila was... its unbelievably devastating to find out her role in all of this. how she didn't actually care. how much of it was on her. it blows my mind that someone could do all of that... to put so much fake but genuine believable grief into it. it's evil in a way i'll never be able to comprehend

  • @cpisarek4284
    @cpisarek4284 Год назад +14

    I totally understand the distaste for giving Rachel the plea deal. It's indescribably horrific what they did to Skylar. HOWEVER, if the judge went back on his word by rescinding the plea deal after a confession, this takes away the incentive for future criminals to confess to a crime where they know they are backed into a corner. They can just deny, deny, deny, have a really lengthy, costly trial where they are still proven guilty anyway but still get maximum time. And other people involved in the crime could still be roaming free. It's a far from perfect system, but I understand why the judge made the call he did.

  • @amandabonner2446
    @amandabonner2446 2 года назад +608

    One thing I love about her. Is that she doesn’t do make up or cook while she’s making her videos. She raw and real. Love this about her.

    • @minletrbl986
      @minletrbl986 2 года назад +88

      Same! She does her research very well, never goes on random tangents about unrelated things and is always 100%% respectful!

    • @kellyann5587
      @kellyann5587 2 года назад +67

      @@minletrbl986 I like watching the make up ones too. They all do their research

    • @thalias6945
      @thalias6945 2 года назад +35

      @@kellyann5587 yeah same bailey sarian specifically

    • @JB-bm1to
      @JB-bm1to 2 года назад +12

      I love Brittney, Kennedy, & Sherrilyn so much! I'm always looking for new girls who do trus crime stories, and cooking while they do it sounds so cool. Do you have the names of any of them I could check out?

    • @jacqueline6124
      @jacqueline6124 2 года назад

      @@thalias6945 yes !!

  • @kailynfournier2344
    @kailynfournier2344 2 года назад +154

    Due to a nasty separation between my parents as a kid, in 2010 I was a child in a parental kidnapping situation in WV and my father genuinely thought I was dead or missing. I remember him talking about how he couldnt get the police to do anything. I just wonder how different my life wouldve gone if Skylar's law was in place then.

    • @rx500android
      @rx500android 2 года назад

      I'm so sorry you had to go through this ❤

    • @sk8aintstr813
      @sk8aintstr813 Год назад

      im so sorry kailyn..hope you get nothing but the best and heal from everything..

  • @ansleyroberts6155
    @ansleyroberts6155 Год назад +125

    I’m confused as to why skylar’s final tweet reads “Twitter for Android” when it was said she had an iPhone? Wasn’t the main claim that Apple wouldn’t give the phone records? So why was she tweeting from an Android….

    • @akito2491
      @akito2491 Год назад +17

      the police had seized their phones. maybe they didn't get it back, so she used another device?

    • @ansleyroberts6155
      @ansleyroberts6155 Год назад +13

      Yes except the phones they seized were for the two girls that killed Skylar. I’m talking about Skylar’s tweet not the other two girls

    • @ansleyroberts6155
      @ansleyroberts6155 Год назад +17

      The tweet that read: “sick of being at fucking home. thanks “friends”, love hanging out with you all too.” Was tweeted by skylar herself before she was murdered. I think it’s peculiar how she tweeted that from an Android but she used an Apple phone since Apple wasn’t able to give the police her phone records. That’s what doesn’t make sense to me.

    • @musa_01m
      @musa_01m Год назад +30

      @@ansleyroberts6155 its possible she used a tablet or another phone she had, theres always another option.

    • @SadBoness
      @SadBoness Год назад +8

      @@ansleyroberts6155 could've just gotten an upgrade in phone some time between when she tweeted and her death

  • @CrazyLazySnazzyJazzy
    @CrazyLazySnazzyJazzy Год назад +7

    This case made me cry for real because how can you do this to your lifelong friend I just...I can't even imagine how terrified Skylar must have been. Absolutely pure evil.

  • @rebeccacrash9272
    @rebeccacrash9272 2 года назад +107

    No matter how many times I hear this story, it never fails to shock me.

  • @tiredallthetime1636
    @tiredallthetime1636 2 года назад +95

    The way they strung her parents along pretending to be worried grieving friends is pure evil. It seems so sadistic to continually show up to their house and call them to watch them grieve. It’s so unnecessarily cruel

  • @Wheeljack-sv2ri
    @Wheeljack-sv2ri Месяц назад +2

    “Why?”
    That got me. That almost made me cry. She didn’t even no why they did it to her. They were her best friends.

  • @jimsgym1
    @jimsgym1 10 месяцев назад +9

    I live in Morgantown, had a boxing gym there
    There were 2 goth high school girls that worked out there. They went to the other high school in town, but then I asked them about Skylar's disappearence about 72 hours after it happened?
    They told me that she had been stabbed to death and left in the woods by a student lesbian couple so as not to be outed.
    When they left, I turned to the other 20 people in there and said 'i sure don't know what happened; but THAT ain't it.
    Took the cops 6 months?
    I've always wondered about that.
    RIP.

    • @the.big.mc.moments
      @the.big.mc.moments 9 месяцев назад +2

      Not trying to be rude just genuinely curious why didn’t you tell police about it ? It could’ve probably been solved even faster.