Teen Blogger's Murderous Masterplan
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Rachelle Waterman was a teenage blogger from Alaska, and together along with her grown adult boyfriend Jason Arrant and his best friend Brian Radel - they created a masterplan to murder Laurie Waterman, Rachelle's own mother
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I think you are meaning to say Lori went to alot of church FUNCTIONS
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You look prettier now, not because of the weight loss but because you don't cake 5lbs of orange makeup on your face anymore. It used to look sooooooooo bad and unnatural and ridiculous but this more natural look is 60000% better. Like I just looked back to the haircut killer video and it looks clownish compared to now
@@user-yv6vx ew
Shhhhhhhh
No one asked
Ur opinion is rude and you shouldn’t comment crud like that
Seek therapy
You’re soo pretty
My mum found out I was dating a 21 year old when I was 15 and absolutely lost it, she rang him then managed to find his father's number and told them that if he didn't leave me alone she would call the police (legal age in NZ 16). I was angry, embarrassed and upset with her. Now I am so glad she did this for me, he was incredibly manipulative and obviously a creep, he even continued dating 15 years olds up until he was 28 years old and almost would always move on from them when they turned 16..
Actually, a couple of years after me he started dating a 14 year old and continued dating her until she was 18 but was still texting and cheating on her with young girls.
I'm so glad your mum did that, I can't believe he didn't get arrested and become a registered offender after he dated you and that other underage girl.
Glad you got out of that situation Chloe, your mum absolutely did the right thing. Also he sounds vile
What a disgusting man! You have an amazing mother she did the right thing
Bless your mum. We really don’t know what monsters are out there until we realize it for ourselves.
The update she posted on her blog about not being able to post for awhile bc her mom got murdered reminds me of those AO3 authors who are like “sorry for not updating for awhile, I got into a car accident and was fully paralysed for the last 3 years :( Anyways here’s chapter 78!! :))” LMFAO
"sorry for not updating for a bit, my grandma died and my house burned down with me in it" a real sentence typed by an AO3 author
😂😂
@@sadowldad1382 What's the author's name and title of the work?
NO I WAS READING ONE ON WATTPAD WAS LIKE “Sorry I’m in the hospital from a bad crash. HERES THREE CHAPTERS LMAO”
@poseidons_child. Well, when you're in the hospital with nothing else to do, writing is a good pass time. XD
To clarify, a LOT of trauma survivors tend to talk about abuse in a very detached, nonchalant way. It's a form of disassociation and/or because it's become so normal for them when it's a chronic issue. I'm a survivor of several traumas and have to work hard to not just casually trauma dump about SAs and emotional abuse because I've disassociated from it and it's just part of my reality. My mother was the one who emotionally abused me and, when it was happening, I talked about it in the same way as Rachelle. And most people didn't believe me because my mom seemed so sweet when other people were around. Not saying that's what happened in this case, but I wanted viewers to be aware that it's actually super common for traumatized people to speak like that about their trauma so they don't automatically write people off by their tone or way they tell the stories of their abuse.
Thanks. Good point. And I’m sorry you went through such pain and misery.
I was thinking this cause I've had people with genuine trama just mention it casually. When it's in depth it's a lot more emotional but people do often trama dump casually. I hate that people have to ever go through these things, you should never had to of endured that. I hope you have a wonderful life💖
THIS. As a person who survived r*pe, people find it so shocking when I say "It's in my past now. It's ok. I'm OK" so flippantly. Sometimes I feel ashamed of that, but since I had therapy for my PTSD and depression, I've come to relative terms with it.
that’s what I was thinking
absolutely correct
What really irritates me is how Bryan and Jason wanted to “help a child who was being abused” but thought having sex with an under age girl is fine.
ikr what clowns
So weird
They did not think it was just fine. As grown men they knew it was disgusting and perverted and wrong. They just didn’t give a F
You can’t help who you love, situations just happen cuz they happen. No one’s fault
@@rachelthisterrifiesmegreen4098 wtf???
Despite Brian committing the murder, I feel like Jason deserves just as much time, if not more in prison for his role and influence.
I agree. Jason is the manipulator here.
Yeah, I genuinely feel like someone who manipulates an abuse survivor into committing murder so they can have sex with a child in peace is a much more dangerous person to society than the one who killed someone because they thought they’re saving a kid from a terrible abuser. Not that someone being able to murder a human isn’t terrifying on its own, but I feel like considering Brian thought he was doing a good thing and trying to help a fellow abuse survivor, he will be a much better person after rehabilitation than Jason.
Eleanor’s little giggle about how Craig is “just a bloke’s name, innit?” definitely made my shitty night a bit better 😂😊
Sorry you was having a bad night xx❤
Mine too!!! I am having a shit day too. I hope you feel better soon! ❤
I have to say I really appreciate how you make sure to accurately refer to Rachelle as a child in this case when it comes to her “boyfriends”. It really drives home the predatory nature of that interaction.
Her name is Rachelle which sucks bc that's my name 😵💫
@@normal_person2Thank you for clarifying! Also, a name maketh not the man, I’m sure you’re a lovely person 😊
ayo freddie mercury?🤭🤭🤭🤭
@@normal_person2 being a "Rachelle" as well, it was sooo weird to hear "my" name so many times in a video! And I was curious how it was spelled too.
Alot of girls in High school in Australia age 14-17 tend to date men age 30 this is nothing compared to that smh
it is very difficult to feel bad for brian when he was romantically/sexually involved with a child
It’s sick 16 is the consent age for Alaska
I don’t know what local law is like in Alaska, but in North Carolina, regardless of the age of consent, relationships with students and school staff are illegal and considered a felony. He absolutely should’ve been thrown in jail for being involved with a student
@@Picklesjuiice age of consent doesn’t mean they can consent to anyone y’all don’t even know what that term means
@@Picklesjuiice it’s like that almost everywhere
@@juliettem13 That is literally what the age of consent means. Someone who is of the age of consent is legally able to consent to sex. It doesn't matter how old the other party is as long as they're also of age. There is a separate clause for cases where they're only allowed to consent to an individual within a certain age range: the Romeo and Juliette clause. Don't accuse people of not knowing what the term means when you probably saw someone say that bs on Twitter once and took it as fact. A five second Google search will tell you that what you are asserting is false
The smirk on her face in the courtroom! Oh my! I think this was HER plan from the beginning. Can't believe she got such a light punishment!
she deserved atleast a minimum of 40 years, after the horrible way she treated her mother :( i cant believe she only got 3
@@nelleminecraft4783 no she did not!
"Can I ask a question?"
I think she wanted to know if Rochelle was involved in her murder, i would want to know if my own child wanted me dead before i died. It's absolutely heartbreaking
I think so too... and i think she kept chickening out when it came to finally ask the question because she really didn't want to know the truth.
"Why are you doing this"?, I'd ask. :c
@meEleanorNealeHD You're not Eleanor, and I hope she sees you.
That's definitely possible, given the bad relationship she had with her daughter. I think she also would have been confused as they said she wouldn't get hurt as long as she did as she was told. So maybe she just wanted to ask why (which of course ties in with what you're saying)? Like she did everything they asked and saw they were gonna kill her anyway. It's horrendous.
Do you think the mom was actually abusive
I can’t believe Rochelle only got 3 years! It was pretty obvious to me that she knew exactly what was going on..that text she sent letting Jason know that her mom was going to be home alone was extremely incriminating! ..and also Jason was 24!?? He looks like he is in his 40’s. Freaking creep 🤮
She probably got a lighter sentence since she was a minor and not actually present at the scene; the prosectution probably had a hard time proving she was involved at all, let alone any sort of mastermind rather than just complicit in what her groomers were doing.
She shouldn’t of got any time she should of got therapy
I agree he doesn't look 24. My partner is 36 and looks a lot younger than him
Prison often makes people look a lot older than they are. That, bad hygiene and lack of a healthy diet.
@@JessMurgatroyd he looks so much older!!
Brian is absolutely horrible but Jason probably knew what he had gone through as a kid and used it to manipulate him into helping him kill Laurie. It's horrifying that he had that power over even him.
Brian looks slow ngl. Like how can you easily get influenced to murder someone from hear say? And the fact that he was the one who kept trying to play out these murders like wtf you gotta be slow asf
I do feel bad for Brian. He still committed a horrendous crime and he deserves the punishment that goes with it, but I do feel bad for him in the sense that he was essentially manipulated into being a hit man. As someone with PTSD, I can easily become defensive when I feel like someone is being bullied or verbally/emotionally abused and jump the gun. Act first ask questions later kinda thing.
I am not excusing Brian at all for what he did but I can, on some level, understand why he murdered Laurie and why he felt that he needed to. Idk if this is a thing or not, but I really wish that this had been taken into account, that he’d been manipulated so much as to murder her. *Still doesn’t excuse what he did* but… idk I feel like if it isn’t a thing already, I think it might be worth looking into and researching if there are new laws or punishments that can be given to people like Brian, who only acted because he had been so manipulated on top of having his past trauma of abuse which would’ve fed into his reasoning. Idk if this makes sense 😅
@@elizabethweigle6146 tbh, the fact that Jason has a chance of being out of jail in his lifetime and the girl is already free.. That's a scary thought. At least with Brian it seems he probably wouldn't have done this on his own but was manipulated into it and may be a bit slow. But Jason and the daughter don't seem to be remorseful for what they planned and are more calculated, but they got a lot lighter sentences.
@@saraha3700 bro? wtf is wrong with you. “he looks slow” that’s a disgusting thing to say about ANYONE and he does deserve that time but the way you are downplaying the manipulation is disturbing
@@saraha3700I was kind of thinking the same.
“Why on earth would you agree to have a wired conversation if you knew it was going to incriminate you too?” He was *dating* a 16 year old girl. Jason isn’t known for making good choices.
Oh, sick burn!
LOL. Yeah I wonder what Rochelle/Rachelle saw in him? It certainly wasn't his good looks or his intellect. It wasn't his successful career as he didn't seem to have one. I imagine her self-esteem must have been extremely low to hang out with, never mind sleep with, guys like them.
Dummy 😂
It's possible that he thought if any of them were going to go down for it, they should go together. But yes, the decision making didn't seem to be his strong suit.
I was born and lived in Craig til I was 12. I went to school with rachelle and Lori was a teacher of mine in elementary school. She was the sweetest most kind woman. A lot of people who live in Craig have mental issues and suffer from substance abuse and Lori was always helping those of us who needed a safe place when home life was hard. Hearing of this case and The way this happened to her completely broke my heart. It completely wrecked the town and the island because nobody could imagine why anyone would do this to her
Thanks for sharing. This case was heartbreaking
Thanks for shedding light on this. I do think Lori's name has been dragged through the mud so it's nice to see someone with actual knowledge of the situation tell us more about her. Her story deserves to be told.
Hey can you tell me if Rachelle's dad and brother had her back after her involvement came to light?
I feel like that would be such a slap in the face to Lori. She was 16, not 6. She knew right from wrong.
Do you have any insight into the family relationship? Or even on the opinion of the locals, in regard to Rochelle?
what gets me is Brian was so upset about child abuse whilst he and his friend were abusing children..... How did he justify his actions in his head?
He probably saw violence as abuse and their relationship as a just a romantic relationship and friendship...
"iF iT dOeSnT hUrT hEr ThEn ItS nOt AbUsE, sHe cAn ToTAlLy cONSEnt tO tHiS"
I literally gasped when I saw Jason’s picture
My mom to this day says that her stepdad was an abusive alcoholic when she was younger. Despite how nice he was when others were around. He was very well liked in their small town. Just because a bunch of people see someone as a good person doesnt mean they are. You do not know what goes on behind closed doors even if things are seemingly pleasant and healthy on the outside.
As a victim of parental abuse when I was younger, it's possible the abuse did really happen.... nobody thought my dad had it in him to abuse us, and he was always sure to do it in a way where it was unnoticeable! And as for stating it nonchalantly, I did the same at times...I thought it was completely normal. It was my normal😳
Totally agree! I know of many parents seen as beacons of the community and both being really abusive at home. And I know it's quite common for the moms to be seen as extra in their religious communities too while being horrible with their own children. I experienced too so I know is true.
I'm only halfway through the video, but I still want to add something from personal experience.
The people who raised me were extremely abusive, however, I talked of it pretty nonchalantly. Even when I was more expressive discussing it with people no one believed me. Not friends, not family, not teachers, not neighbors. They were Christian, nice clothes, nice house, always pleasant, but behind closed doors they were threatening my life. Even when I was confronted by police I lied. I was scared and brainwashed.
Just please keep in mind things are not always as they seem.
Also, to anyone out there if my story resonates with you in anyway- reach out, scream it from the roof tops, make people listen, please get help.
Yesss
THIS!
i just gotta say that bringing up fucked up shit that has happened to you in a very casual way, thinking it's not a big deal or being too afraid to do anything about it, and the abuser not being suspected of anything is not very weird at all.. it may not be the case here but it does happen
yupppp, none of my friends ever believed me either. but even if her mom was abusive it doesn’t rly excuse murder
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Agreed I've been through hell and only way I can tell my therapist details is to talk about it like its nothing etc ad otherwise I can't speak about it all
I was thinking this too. When I talk about traumatic things, I try to downplay it a lot
It’s also not uncommon for people to insist that abuser X would never be capable of doing such things. I took a course in deviant psychology awhile back and the textbook wrote about deviants who wear a “breastplate of righteousness.” Not saying that’s the case here, but it is something that’s good to know about.
I personally think Rochelle should have gotten a longer sentence. I feel bad for the mom, it was obvious she was just looking out for her and didn’t want a predator going after her daughter.
She shouldn’t of got a setence she should of got therapy and help
@@sean2382 She should have gotten both.
Rachelle at minimum went along with a plan to murder her mother -- for what? Teenage rebellion? Because it seems pretty likely those tales of abuse are untrue. She may have had depression, but the vast majority of depressed teens hurt no one. I don't know what was in her mind and soul, but it's beyond a couple years of therapy and prescription.
@@floraposteschild4184 how do you know those tales of abuse are untrue?why would she lie?
@@goldenrose3652 Why does anyone lie? For drama. To make yourself more interesting. To manipulate others.
Of course I don't know 100 percent that Rachelle lied. I wasn't there (and neither were you). But c'mon. If this were a court case, how many juries would determine she was abused beyond a reasonable doubt, given there seems to be no evidence beyond her word? If there is some evidence in her favour, please let me know.
@@goldenrose3652 She helped off her own mother. Why *wouldn't* she lie? That doesn't strike me as a very trustworthy person
"He just stood there like a lemon" is probably my favourite thing you've ever said in your videos! Love your channel, keep up the good work :)
Lol that’s such a British saying
i will admit i laughed out loud at that part! havent heard that in australia
@@ashiecloud Fruit and veg make for fun insults (though I do actually respect them!). I routinely call people "beetroot" to make fun of them (eg "ah will ya look at that beetroot holding up the entire queue"), but lemon is a first for me, and I love it.
@@kodamaspirit9298 haha I know what you mean, I use Peanut
I've heard people say "you pinecone" as an insult and it always cracks me up🤣
I'm not gonna say anything about how the mom treated her daughter cuz we really don't know but. I literally used to post on Facebook about how sick I was of my mom and how unreasonable she was. I even found a list of signs of emotional abuse that she fit most of, and posted that. It was clear as day that I wasn't happy living with her. Yet it wasn't until I literally said "my mom was emotionally abusive" that people finally seemed to look up. So the fact that no one around the mother would call her abusive isn't reliable to me almost at all 🙃
I just want to say that just because a ‘loved one’ expresses love and concern does not mean that they are not abusive. Many domestic abusers alternate between love and violence. However, this ( like so many) mom/daughter relationship was complex, and no one deserves to be murdered. AND many thanks to Eleanor who is an AMAZING storyteller!💖
It almost baffles me how the man who felt remorse got the harshest sentence and then the daighter who started the allegations of abuse in the first place got the most lenient (though, as a minor, I guess it makes more sense)... Not that it absolves anything that was done to the mum.
Idk I think the dude should be punished harshly he’s a predator
@@BubbleBunnyy Definitely punished, of course. It just seems weird to me that the people who supposedly did more were punished less.
Yeah, what he did was vile but he and his trauma were used as a weapon in the crime
I mean he literally was the one to commit murder so in my opinion that’s very fair
Can we all just appreciate how active Eleanor has been🙏 we don’t deserve you queen🙏
Indeed, she's Queen! 👑❤️👑❤️👑❤️👑❤️👑❤️👑
@@alicerivierre yaaaaas ❤️
yesss she’s the best
Yeah she's the best and she along with Bella Fiori and Savannah Brymer are the true crime youtubers I watch the most.
FORREAL seeing that she posted a video I can watch before work today… she is the best
Rachelles smirk in the court photos says it all for me. She shouldn’t be out and living her ‘crappy’ life
nor writing on her "blog" lol - i looked it up and wow
Yep, same evil smirk as OJ Simpson, that Eleanor showed in her other video.
For anyone wanting to look at the blog please be careful. She has posts up on the blog of self harm pictures and blogs of her speaking about suicide. just a trigger warning for anyone,
Thanks. I was gonna check it out to see what she had to say for herself, if she felt remorse, etc, but I can't stomach pictures of self-harm. I have to skip the scene when I see someone doing that in a movie or TV show. I don't know why exactly. I think it's probably when they cut themselves as I'm a haemophiliac. It's horrible to see.
where can i find the blog?
@@retsoptihs0 I completely understand that, I genuinely wish you the best, from what I found she didn't post anything about the case, mostly just mental health resposts.
@@kareemmanalac the official page has been deleted since I last checked
I had extremely controlling parents who raised us like it was the 1950's in 1990. And when I say controlling I'm not exaggerating. My father's favorite cousin was the Sheriff. My parents would tell him where we had permission to be & if he caught us ANYWHERE else he hit his lights, booped his siren, called our name over the speaker & asked us where we were supposed to be. If we answered wrong he got out, cuffed us & took us home. And he was ridiculous about it even more so than that. One Friday night I was spending the weekend with my older sister who had moved out & lived with our grandma. Kim worked at the bowling alley grill. My friends came in & asked me to go to the movies right across the street. She let me go & gave me some money. From where she was she could see me through the big glass windows. But our cousin caught me crossing the road & went through his entire thing & took me home. My whole weekend was over.
You know what our parents being like this ended up causing? My sister got pregnant her senior year in high school. She was dating the 30 year old DIVORCED son of a friend of our parents. He got fed up quick with my cousin so they never came in town, they went back to his place. That was in '85 & they're still together. But he molested me at 13 & raped me at 17. Nobody believed me. He raped the sister that let me go to the movies too but she never spoke up because they hadn't believed me. He's also cheated on her multiple times & she walked in on him.
The way we were raised she doesn't have the self esteem nor courage to leave him.
As for me? At 18 I was dating a 30 yr old man, married him at 19, we trapped me with a kid at 20.
I didn't know until AFTER we were married that he was a 6 time convicted pedophile who was supposed register where he lived. All I knew was no matter where we moved he never changed his address on his license, it was his parents. That man hung me when I was pregnant & the neighbors saved me when they came running with shotguns. The parents lived on 1 side of us & their adult son was living on the other side of us. When they came at him they came from 2 different directions & he took off into the wood of the State park that butted up to our property. My parents forced me to go back to him so my baby wouldn't be born a bastard embarrassment for them like my sister's was. The abuse didn't stop & I didn't find out he was a convicted pedo until AFTER I had to take my then 15 month old to the ER after he molested her. The cops who came to the ER informed me of that.
If you don't want your children to end up with predators don't raise them as easy prey.
Barry used to love telling me my parents raised me to be the perfect prey. All he had to do was swoop in like my savior & rescue me from my overbearing parents. And it was so easy, all he had to do was make me feel save & protected. Buy me clothes that not only actually fit but for the 1st time in my life they were brand new & I got to go shopping for them. He didn't HAVE to treat me like a queen, he just had to treat me nice. Make me feel heard & validated for once in my life.
My brother-in-law did the same damn thing with my sister. He KNEW how our parents were because he'd seen it for himself for years. The day he left his 1st wife he met my sisters outside of school & drove them home. That was exciting for both of them because they broke the rule of never riding home from school with a friend.
Honestly even though he was after my oldest sister he had fun gaining the silence of all of us & it was extremely easy because of the way our overbearing parents had raised us.
My ex-husband wasn't just a pedo, he's a diagnosed psychopath. He grew bored of me quickly because I was so submissive. Absolutely no fight in me. I was the perfect Biblical wife just like I was raised to be. He enjoyed being able to order me around but I learned to read him too quickly & anticipated what he was going to want. He grew tired of coming home to everything he liked after work all right there waiting for him at his chair. He made a fun game of shoving my head under water if I checked the crab pots off our deck at high tide. He did this so often that I had time to think about it between & eventually I stopped fighting & just laid still. Remember, he'd told me it was the fight he was after & I was too submissive. And honestly the other abuse was so bad by then that had he not pulled my head up I wouldn't have cared. He'd broken me. By that point I had endured an abusive childhood & and my prince charming who rescued me abused me too. He'd already started using our daughter as a pawn by then so I was well aware if he killed me his rich parents would get custody of her.
He'd just drop her off there & move on to hunting his next victim.
Oh and my middle sister? She ended up with a predator too but she met hers online playing WOW & he convinced her to move to Canada. She got pregnant & married to him within a year & as soon as the baby was born he refused to sponsor my sister anymore & had her kicked out of the country. He hid her baby at his mother's friends house where she couldn't find her before he started that fight. And when the cops came he used her reaction as proof that she was mental unstable & a danger to herself & their baby. Claimed that's WHY he had taken the baby someplace safe.
Our little brother? He's the Golden Child who got to do anything he ever wanted & us girls had to literally pay for it all. His childhood was great, his adult life is military hero & IG perfect. You'd think we had different parents & you'd be right. Privilege & freedom came with a penis in our house & he was lucky enough to have one.
As for the mother not seeming abusive & telling everyone how worried she was for her daughter? Yeah, our mother was just like that too. Dad was quiet but he was the enforcer. When mom beat us with whatever she had in her hand or her favorite, the coiled cord for the landlines phone dad would just kick us back into play if we ran to him for help. And DON'T raise your hand to mom to defend yourself. I made that mistake at 15 & before I could even hit her once he had me by the throat & was holding me above his head against the wall.
ALL ofbour bruises came from our Bible Thumping mother & yup, some of them came from literally being thumped with the big ass family Bible. But on the few times we tried to tell she played that same damn "I'm just so scared for her"
& she even had a favorite prop, 2 of my grandmother's Nitro pills she wore in a vial on a necklace. The whole time she was talking to friends, cops, guidance counselors & even doctors when we reported it at the ER she would play with this prop. Just because you don't SEE someone being abusive doesn't mean they aren't. The person they show YOU isn't who they are when they are home. Even her father admitted she had a lot of bruises, but her father NEVER said where they came from, just that she bruised easy. Where were these bruises? Did they resemble fingers digging into her arm or leg? My abusers avoided hitting in the face, how many bruises did she have on her head under her hair? How many could she hide with her clothes?
I'm going to tell you word for word what my doctor told my mother when I had to get my physical & he found bruises all over me.
"She bruises easy? How easy? Healthy children DON'T just bruise easy. Even active children who play contact sports don't bruise this easy. If she's bruising this easy I'm going to order blood work including leukemia testing"
That was the last time I saw that doctor.
I'm 48, 14 years ago I finally went no contact with my abusive toxic family.
10 years ago I was given the best gift ever. My mother was FINALLY diagnosed as a Malignant Narcissist with Histrionic Personality Disorder. I still don't talk to her but I now have the answer to why she abused us & validation for every time someone ever told me "I don't believe you. You're mother is so nice. She loves you & she's worried about you"
No, she was only ever worried about absolute control & loved using the system to put us back in our place or as a threat that would put us back in our place.
I'm not saying this girl is innocent or that her mother deserved to die. I'm saying we all only understand life based on our own experiences. And based on mine I can't give her controlling mother a free pass. I have questions most people wouldn't even think to ask.
Sending hugs, and love your way!! ❤️❤️❤️
I'm sorry you had to go through all that! My wife had similar situations in her family as well, you have to break that toxic cycle!!
I spent time reading this and I have so much love for you. I am truly sorry you went through such things and I hope you truly heal and get the blessings you should of been given back then. I hope god smacks them straight into hell with the bible they used to attack you with. If you ever wanna talk I’m here this is awful. Sending love ❤️
Ma’am I’m sorry about what happened to you but I was kinda in a similar situation without the SA but I didn’t have family members who was cops but when I was 12 I started to smoke weed by the age of 13 I was selling it by the age of 14 I started drinking and by age 15 I left home and was like a rolling stone My parents didn’t know where I was at but I was in Philly they didn’t know about my friend named Brian aka philly I was 8 hours away from home and I had drugs money clothes shoes jewelry philly was different I could fight and I was known to be a knock out artist at the time I was 5”9.5 255 pounds but I got caught by beat cops with a small amount of weed at 17 I was 6 foot tall 275 pounds and when I called my dad he said where are you boy I said I’m in jail but I bonded myself out in cash bc I had like 6000 dollars cash stuffed in my hoodie pocket and when I got released I had bus tokens bc my truck was sold I had a show truck lowered big lexani 23s bri had a dark money green chromed out excursion sitting on 26s and when I got back to SWP (south west Philly) I had my clothes I was arrested in and the next morning I left my boots to my friend bri and grabbed a pair of infer red jordan 6s I hopped on a grey hound bus and went home and I looked like someone was gonna rob me I had a pair of black Sean John jeans black inferred 6s black T shirt charcoal grey hoodie on black fitted cap I spent my 500 dollars on weed and a 40 I chain smoked blunts down to 4 blunts for the stops and had 200 dollars for food 🥘 and when I got to Raleigh North Carolina with 2 blunts I called my dad at 2 in the morning and I spent my last hours alone smoking weed and drank a Saint eyes 40 aka crooked eyes so I hopped in the car drunk and high off my ass now I quit smoking weed bc I can’t and slowed down drinking shout out to bri getting his life back DJ who’s on the right track 5 years on a20 year sentence and lil Diablo or I called him lil devil is now about to get released on a 10 year sentence plus my real dad was never in my life that’s why I started acting that was and like plias said “I’m a goon to the streets but to my mama I’m still her baby raising a street dude by urself u are a hellva lady shit I’m doing now got nothing to do with how u raised me” I was my mamas baby but I knew inside when my dad told her she was mad as hell but being a street dude is in my passed I have a hustler personality bc of it and I never wanna go back to pumping packs like it ain’t shit so honey do something for me raise them babies to not be like me I’m beg u pls u don’t wanna be up at night saying where’s my son or daughter we all love u
Sorry but who asked?!
I’d be interested to see what the dad’s opinion on everything is and how he feels, especially about the claims of abuse seeing as he lived there. I also wonder if Jason is released would he be under watch as a child predator? He didn’t get charged for it but he cleary was!
Well he said all the abuse was untrue and the fact that after her prison sentence she is seen hugging and being taken away by her dad who denied her abuse, it really indicates she knows she lied about the level of abuse, she just doesn't care.
Well if he wasn’t charged than no he wouldn’t because that would mean it legally never happened.
Age of consent is 16 in Alaska so he didn't commit a crime in regards to their relationships. Morally dubious but otherwise legal.
Sugar face we acting terrible on earth we need a global meeting of humans
@@Alex-cw3rz it literally doesn’t indicate that at all
Your videos are literally the highlight of my week 💕 The cases you cover are usually ones I've never heard of before and I'm glad the victims and their loved ones get the exposure they deserve! As weird as it might sound, I love coming home from work and listening to you while drawing (and usually afterwards I read up on the cases more and get completely dragged into a rabbit hole)
I totally get why someone outside of the situation would think, "omg she's too casual with this, she can't be really going through it." But I've been through several traumas myself and I do find myself talking about stuff too casually. It's the beauty of dissociation, you know.
As someone related to them… A. She wasn’t abused B. Rachelle planned the murder not her idiot boyfriends C. They made her drink the wine because she was a recovered alcoholic so they knew it would look like she relapsed D. She’s living a life in Florida but not completely normal because our side of the Family doesn’t speak or acknowledge her and her Brother has nothing to do with her
DAMN! With a daughter like that, who needs enemies??? Poor woman. :-( KUDOS to you folks for turning your backs on her sinister azz! RESPECT!
Does her dad still talk to her? Wasn't that him in the pictures of her after prison?
I really do feel bad about you guys. I can't imagine having a murderer in the family. May I ask, did she ever DID feel any remorse?
Damn. I'm sorry you had to go through that, Katie. I guess her dad is the only person she has left? I'm surprised at that but then again I suppose family is family and maybe he just can't believe that his own daughter would have planned this. Thanks for the info, and again I'm really sorry for your loss.
i dont know why but this comment seems like bullshit to me but if its not jheeeez
I won’t lie, if you asked anyone surrounding my mum (her friends, family, colleagues etc) if they thought she’d abuse me, they’d say no too. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Her mum could be nice to everyone else except her.
This woman was killed because of “accusations” from her over emotional, immature teenage daughter to her predatory older manipulator and his equally predatory friend. And you think the mom, the victim, was the abuser???
And you can’t even muster any sympathy for the actual victim of this case
@@hxjjdjd606 you can have sympathy for the victim and still acknowledge that allegations could have possibly been true and that writing them off based on normal trauma responses is unfair
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Yeah, after watching the entire video and reading the case those allegations seems very likely, enough to acknowledge as possible sure
Please the only person abusing and manipulating Rachel was her “bf”
@@hxjjdjd606 @Han P Im not saying shes right or wrong about the allegations. I'm not saying that the murder was justified. All I'm just saying is that the reasons people wrote them off are unfair.
I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not but I just wanted to clarify since it's a touchy topic was all, thank you for listening
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It’s touchy cause I was abused. And I hate seeing comments calling the mom the abuser. My mom tried to help me from mine and I said the same things too (not to the same degree) because I was tricked into thinking she hated me
From a teenager it’s always the ones who are trying to help you seem like the abusers, because the actual abusers are the wolf in sheeps clothing
This is a great case to illustrate a very common parenting mistake. Although most people think that being a teen just comes with arguments, as Eleanor said, but I see it as the way I experienced it, which is that when we are young, we usually believe that our parents & other adults know things, they have the experience, they raise us, etc, but when we reach our teens, we are constantly having our own thoughts & we begin to see the flaws in our families & adults, & then we decide if the adults are fallible, then why should we listen to them? Its a very immature perspective, but that's the core issue. And too many parents think the right action is to come down on their kid's interests, keep them home more, more religions, more rules. But if you just explore their interests with them, it isn't a conflict, you stay connected.
You are a 100% right I wish my family did this when they found out that my sister is Wiccan. Only myself and the great aunt didn't disinherit andisinherit and excommunicate her like everybody else in my family did my father granddaughter for 2 to 3 years which is ridiculous. We're not devout we don't have a Bible house we can grow up hearing about stuff like that so I don't understand why everybody freak out. My great aunt on the other hand went out of the way to go to circle pagan stores ask questions get literature so she could learn about what my sister was learning about and I really wish more people would take that approach so your comment is a 100% right people need to to stop Freaking out when their children make a different decision to believe something different and just need to do their own research talk to their children and not demonize them for a belief. Things are better now especially since my father got remarried and found out that his wife is wicked and she set him down and gave him a 2 hour lecture when she found out what he did to my sister now he accepts not only his wife and my sister but also me since I'm pagan.
That would be the logical thing to do, however, when religion in involved people can’t see further..
I mean yeah, but also it's a very common mistake and it's usually not that bad.
It's best if parents don't make that mistake, however it's not like it justifies anything, you just get over it eventually when you grow up and realise that yeah ...teenagers can be really annoying.
And that's ok, because being a teen is hard and confusing tbh
Great input, I agree!!
@@nix-on-the-rise did you mean his wife is Wiccan?
My friend was like this. Her mom was super sweet and nice to everyone even me, but my friend would show up with bruises some times limping even making nonchalant comments ect ect. Then one day my mom and I went over to pick her up for a game as i was walking to the door I herd screaming and what sounded like a slap, I waited for a few moment before knocking and when she answered it her mom opened it with a smile, invited me in and everything being so sweet and everything. So just because someone seems super sweet in front of people doesn't mean they will actually be like that behind closed doors. The only reason why people ended up believing her is cause I said something.
The difference is, when her boyfriend spoke up and talked of her being hit by a baseball bat it was untrue, it was all true why did they have to make that up? Why is she arm in arm with her father as she leaves prison when he said she suffered zero abuse. And if it happened was complicit in something she thought could only be solved through k illing. Yet she's just smiling with her dad.
@@Alex-cw3rz that I can't answer. I was just pointing out her behavior was very similar to my friends. The only difference is my friend didn't kill her mother.
I'm glad that you were able to help your friend. 💕
I'd just like to say that as a survivor of abuse the "oh but they're so sweet they're not capable of abusing someone" is how abusers get away with it so often. Abusers typically aren't walking around bragging about hitting their kids, they hide it so they can keep doing it or they think it's a normal thing to do and everyone does it like that in the case of my relatives. People not believing a victim shouldn't be used as evidence that the abuse didn't happen. I grew up in this region of Alaska with abusive relatives and in and out of abusive relationships, this is how everyone talks about it. Everyone pretends it isn't happening and that whoevers being accused could never be capable of that. I grew up thinking abuse was normal because it was such a common thing that everyone my age had stories of "that time my mom locked me out of the house until morning in December" or "that time my parents beat me for being late to curfew" or whatever. It's easier to ignore it especially in these smaller isolated communities. Also I'm just going to say that I have never met an extremely religious person that didn't have some messed up parenting ideals. (by the way I don't think killing your parents or anything is okay at all but I think the abuse thing is a much more nuanced situation than "people didn't believe her and the abusers friends said she was nice so it couldn't have happened probably" that's all. this also isn't meant as hate at all I just feel like it was insufficiently discussed in this situation and I wanted to provide some insight as an ex mormon abuse victim from this area of Alaska yk?)
What about her Own friends, not believing her? I've had friends that taught me not to believe anything, they said and I didn't find that typical.
It seems like No one (who knew her, personally or the mother) believed her And she was nonchalant and there was evidence that her mother wasn't the disciplinarian, at all.
Actually when you’ve been through CPTSD it is SO normalized that it’s just a boring facet of your life. Often we think we’re morbidly joking or just telling a relatable story and it isn’t until the other person’s reaction that we realize what we experienced wasn’t ok, wasn’t normal.
Yes! Joking is a trauma response
At this point, I don't think there's ever been a time when Eleanor has disappointed us with a case. She dedicates so much time and effort into her videos. Thank you, girl. Your videos are always amazing.
i cant imagine how complicated the emotional turmoil inflicted on the dad must be like
Consistency👏🏼
Thanks for sharing these stories in such a respectful way
Lmao, her taste in men is hysterical
Yeah, they look about 40 and were going nowhere in life. What on earth did they have to offer?
Sorry, this is an old post. But I’m so happy someone said something. Jason looks live real live troll. I hate to comment on someone’s looks, but I cant imagine how this young girl wanted that thing. Holy shit! I guess this was a small town.
@@AlaraTheFae I'm sorry yours is now an old post but yeah... I feel horrible about this but I had to stop eating when his picture flashed up on the screen. He's genuinely the most repulsive looking person I have ever seen, completely ruined my appetite lmfao.
They look like failed science experiments 😂😂
Omg this episode is so chaotic, I love it! “Craig… that’s a bloke’s name!!” “He was a janitor, whatever that is, like a handyman?” “crimes didn’t happen there. Well… obviously, they did” “her mum went to every single.. um.. ceremony? What they called?” “Emo phase… I had one of those”. I’m only 10 min in but I’m giggling away doing my puzzle. More chaos please!
When she was asking can I ask a question, I bet she wanted to know if this was planned by her daughter. And that’s absolutely heartbreaking 💔
I grew up in a nearby small town in Southeast Alaska. We used to travel to Prince of Whales to play basketball when I was in middle school. I remember when this happened. It was shocking to say the least. Thanks for covering this story. You are one of my favorite true crime RUclipsrs! ❤️
Where were you from! I grew up in Ketchikan
Ah this one was a bit hard to listen to. I was in an abusive relationship for about 10 years and I would also talk about it in a similarly detached way. I'm not sure why that was my reaction but I understand now that it is a common way victims of abuse disassociate from the situation. Not many people believed me either because they only ever saw the person who was abusing me be nice and charismatic. It was only when we were alone that she would do anything abusive. Part of the reason it took me so long to leave that relationship was the fact that almost no one believed me and the few who did, insisted I must be exaggerating or misinterpreting her actions. I'm not saying that her mom abused her in this case, only that an abusive situation where everyone around insists abuse is not happening is possible. I'm sure that if my ex ever did murder me and the police asked friends and family about them, they would all say they saw no abuse and only a perfectly normal and happy relationship.
I agree
Eleanor!!! There's was absolutely nothing to watch here!! And you swooped in to the rescue. Thanks a bunch! Always a good day when you upload. Know I'm going to learn something new when you do.
“she was just a mum” is heartbreaking
I really appreciate how you always make sure to emphasize when someone is a CHILD in sexual abuse or pedophilia cases. Most people like to use terms like “young woman” or just straight up “woman” and it always infuriates me because it not only downplays the severity of the age difference but also downplays how vulnerable someone is by being so young and naive.
but when your 16 you are a young woman
@@justkicking4525 Young woman could also mean early 20's, because they're on the younger side of adult women. The age range for young woman is pretty large and we need to emphasize that the victim isn't an adult, and is a child who's literally still in school.
@@tacomaui2732 There's also the fact that one of the guys was a janitor at her school, which makes the relationship even MORE inappropriate. Sure, 16 is legal here in the UK but it is absolutely against the law for a member of staff to have a sexual relationship with a pupil, even if the pupil is of age.
@@justkicking4525 yeah, but when you hear the phrase young woman, most people think 18-24 age range before they think 13-17 and it subconsciously changes the way they think about the relationship, when it’s literally a child and an adult (who worked at her school, so it’s even worse)
A big reason why so many kids don't say anything is that you become so disillusioned with adults that you lose all trust for them. I remember deciding that if my parents, their friends, and our church "leaders" weren't going to help me, that no adults could be trusted. Also, even if there were people who could help me, I couldn't tell who they were because my abusers acted like nice people, so there was no way for me to tell when the goodness was real.
This reminds me a little about this girl I went to middle school with. You could look it up, her name is Jamie silvonek and her boyfriend was named Caleb Barnes. This happened when we were in 8th grade. I didn’t know her really but we were both into alternative music. I wore a ADTR shirt to school and one day in the lunch line she said she liked my shirt and that she’d seen the band in concert. Anyway, later that year my mom asked me after I showered one night if a knew a girl named Jamie Silvonek and I said “yes? Why?” And that’s when she and my older sister explained that Jamie was on the news because she and her much older bf, (21 or 22 and she was 14) had made a plan? She said she wanted her mom gone because her mom didn’t approve of them. (Obviously she wouldn’t. He was a grown man and she was 14.) Jamie told him in text “she needs to go” because her mom threatened to kick her out the house and she was angry. She had her bf stab her mother in the neck repeatedly in the car outside of their house and Jamie was in the car as well as it happened. She didn’t physically do it, but she was convicted of homicide and tampering with evidence. And it was her idea, and she was there… so. Yeah. It really ruined 8th grade for us.
My heart breaks for this lady. She was probably so scared and confused.
Seeing the photo of him, he really does look like what you think of when you think pedophile
I just found this channel and I'm loving it. Miss Neale's ascent makes it even more interesting to listen to these stories. I love being here i can't wait to binge watch all of these tragic stories ❤😢
I'm only about 15 minutes in and while I know nothing about whether Rachelle was abused or not, I just wanna say that my childhood was dysfunctional as hell with definite elements of abuse, and even now at 25 I casually say things relating to my life/past that has people around me saying "wtf", because to me it isn't anything out of the ordinary or unusual, but to others apparently it is
Elenor is one of the only youtuber's Ive seen that doesn't have a "Most replayed!" right after her ad read. Her voice and enegry is so lively, even throughout her ad read that I dont bother to skip it
Instead of pleading with her daughter to break it off with a male predator the mom could have always just had the 'boyfriend' charged with statutory rape, or at the very least fired from his job as a school janitor.
Love your work!! You were the first true crime channel I ever watched on you tube and years later, I’m still hooked! Thanks! I’m disabled and life gets rough…. I escape from it on you tube!❤
Sorry to hear things are rough for you: I am also disabled, blind, but there are so many support groups out there and Access To services. Please reach out to someone if things get too difficult ❤️
Keep your chin up.i have had Lupus for many years. 🙏🙃♥️
@@laura-sandy1492 thank you and God bless!
@@janetrawlings1691 I try everyday.
I hope things are going well for you. Disability can be frustrating and scary but I’m glad you found a place to escape when you need it. I tend to use RUclips as an escape too sometimes. ❤️
you're like the only person i will watch sponsors instead of skipping them. idk why, i just love ur accent (u sound 'local' to me) and i just love how u explain things!! ive been subbed to you on my account for a while now and then i told all my friends to watch you and they all subbed too :) love ur vids, keep it up!
I just went to look at her LJ, and someone posted a comment on 09/08/22 saying, “Why did you kill your mother?
The bully here is you, and you are a despicable human.”
And Rachelle LIKED the comment! 😮 that’s f’d up imho.
14:32 as a child of abuse, sometimes I would dissociate and would talk about my abusers actions nonchalantly because I wasn’t fully present and sometimes telling others led to more abuse so I understand why she wouldn’t talk about it as often if it was true.
I love how respectful and informing this channel is to the cases themselves and just tells the entire story!!
dude i was like “i want to watch eleanor” and a new video popped up 😭
a lot of people are mentioning how trauma survivors often nonchalantly talk about their abuse, and i am in the same boat, but i do NOT believe that she was abused. just the way she acts all around seems bratty and sinister to me.
I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING
as someone who went through domestic abuse as a child, mentioning it nonchalantly is VERY common and a defense mechanism because making it serious in the outside world will make it too real, besides police or adults always was a no go because living in someone’s else’s custody would be terrifying and if you were not taken seriously could lead to more abuse.
i always mentioned some horrific things nonchalantly and just hoped that someone else would pick it up because i could never make it so real myself, it’s a way to cope it’s a way to keep going. also if your friends don’t believe you when you can’t face it head on - that’s just shitty friends.
lol the arguments under this
FR she always looks so pretty in her vids!!
FR
GLOWINGGGGGG 💕😍
She sure does.
her skin is amazing!
They could’ve done the adult thing and reported her alleged abuse…
That’s even worst cooperating with police is worst
u don’t understand how excited i got that u posted a new vid
i appreciate how you cover stories. i feel like I always leave your videos feeling an admiration and appreciation for the lives of the victims, not just the details of their deaths
Can I just say, I am so appreciative of your content warnings on these cases. I can't watch anything involving the harm of animals, so when you give me a warning, it makes me feel so respected as a person!
There’s no way Jason is 24. He looks 40
He looks like a toe
@@cherrybomb1386 💀
I'm assuming that Rochelle had limited options in the town.
@@kbm2055 I'd rather be alone!!
Yes, he does!!🤮
This is horrifying, that poor poor woman 💔 all bc she cared about her daughter…
I feel terrible for Brian. He thought it was a life or death situation for Richelle, and wanted to save her. Of course he shouldn't have taken matters into his own hands, but he was so manipulated, and by the person he trusted the most out of anyone. He had so much remorse once he found out the abuse wasn't real, or so much less than what Jason was saying. I feel like the court should have taken that into account. He obviously still needed to be punished for committing murder, but I honestly think Jason should have gotten a much longer sentence than Brian.
I agree, too bad he didn't just call the police on the mom instead of resorting to murder.
He was a child predator. He thought Rochelle getting abused was awful, yet he was being a pedophile the whole time? Very hypocritical. Only sympathy I have in this case is for the victim whom died over her selfish, immature, evil daughter’s behaviour.
I'm from Alaska and I always think the way outsiders talk about it so funny. By the way if Craig makes you laugh wait until you hear about Chicken, my grandmas from there and I always get a kick out of peoples reactions lol (some other ones people often think are funny iirc Kake, Unalaska, Saxman, Pelican, Dillingham for some reason?)
Unalaska?! 🤣
as someone who has gone through abuse at the hands of a caregiver, it’s really hard to watch videos like this and hear the reasons people don’t believe the alleged abuse actually happened. a lot of the time, they’re the same reasons people find it hard to believe me. i’ve never reported my abuser to the police or social services, i tend to speak of the abuse in a detached or jokey way, a lot of people who meet my abuser will tell me “but they’re so nice!”, or they’ll think that i’m dramatising the situation to sound a lot more serious than it is.
i’m not saying i believe rochelle’s allegations, and certainly don’t agree with how she dealt with things, but i struggle to write off these things as lies
There are many reasons I've decided to never have kids. Watching this video, I just thought of another one. I have ADD, which comes with something called RSD, which stands for Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria. It means insults hit harder than they would most other people. For example, if I had a kid and in their teen years my kid decided they hated me, it would kill me. If they not only told me, but told the whole world via the internet that they really hated me, it would utterly destroy me.
My daughter has RSD she can joke around but once a little joke about her is said she takes it straight to heart I wish she'd loosen up a little she needs to know that's how faimly and friends are they joke like I'll be giving her a haircut and dad will be like ohhh is someone getting a bowl cut 😂 and I'll make a chop chop noise we laugh...not her SHE FLIPS SHIT cries says her hair is gonna look bad even though she gets the same cut every time 🤦♀️ I have it sometimes it depends on my mood 😂
Sorry this sounds like bs and they have just named something to make people feel better. She should work I. Sales. Constant rejection makes you numb to. It in the end
@@cashkitty3472 you acting like you’re a licensed psychologist
@@etherealbeauty1422 that's unfortunate. I hope she gets better, the hormones raging probably don't help that.
I'm someone who cries easily as well (although there's no diagnosis I'm just sensitive that way) and hoenstly in cases like these I think you have to learn or develop coping mechanisms.
Itd be nice if that weren't necessary, but it is. And it sounds an awful lot like "just get over it", but tbh sometimes I think that's good advice 🤷
@@francescapatti2934 yeah thankyou she is just very sensitive going into preteens but she's been like thus since she was little she take every joke to heart and we both mom and dad are like JUST CHILL OUT ITS A JOKE high-school and middle school are gonna destroy you if ypu don't toughin up and she has a little she has some whitty comebacks lol
"stood there like a lemon" Love that phrase!!!!
this is so off topic but i watched your older videos and i just love how you switched up your look! beautiful always you murder any look (pun intended)
and before anyone assumes another meaning no shade at all to your previous look, just amazes me how you are always stunning with totally different makeup styles
I was groomed from the age of 13 to 21. The guy was 5 years older than me. We would erp online through facebook he would ask me to send in appropriate pictures.my parents found out and they got so upset and told me to stop talking to him but I never did. We never met in person as he lived ohio and I lived in Minnesota and thank god we didn’t. The only reason we stopped talking is because he found a new younger victim and I decided enough was enough after the girl messaged me screaming about how I was talking to him.
It’s taken me until recently, as a nearly 25 year old woman, how disgusting the whole situation was. I hope his new victim realize how bad the whole situation was and she got out too.
I'm not saying the mom did physically abuse her, but sometimes there are no outward signs from people. My mom beat the ever loving you know what out of me and then go to church and sing in the choir. No one would've believed it. So, yeah. It's definitely possible.
Soon as I read what the story was about, I decided not to watch it.
I cannot stand the cases of entitled kids killing a parent or both, alone but usually its a teenage girl with an older adult man?
Disgusting and sad
"Whatever a janitor is... like a handyman?" 😂 I'm sorry, I couldn't help but laugh at the confusion.
Just wanted to add that statistically Alaska is a very dangerous place with a HIGH crime rate. You said that it was safe because no strangers came in or out of the town, just wanted to fix that little misconception ppl have about Alaska. Great video!! Saved it to show to my Mom lol.
honestly, the abuse segment of this story really hits hard for me, the nonchalance of mentioning abuse is due to the detachment of it. I was physically and mentally abused as a teenager by my parents, when I did mention it it was so normal to me it would just be a passing comment.
I was never worried about telling the police due to being scared of other consequences, having my home life disrupted even more etc… and the fact no one believes her breaks my heart because i understand so much about how not every trauma survivor is a blubbering mess and how some are so dissociated from the trauma that they can’t emotionally react to it. And the dad excusing all the bruises, ‘she bruises easily’ is exactly what my parents would say when questioned about me, it’s so suspicious and genuinely sad, it doesn’t excuse her actions at all, but i had empathy for the fact claims of abuse were just cast outside due to the mum seemingly being too nice to do anything.
i am so sorry you had to go through something like that, i hope you have atleast found a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel. 🤍
As terrible Brian was for his predatory behavior, my emotional side can't help but feel terrible about how they used him and took advantage of his abusive childhood. Tugs at my heartstrings.
He was a child predator who smothered a woman to death in cold blood after not even attempting once to report the supposed “abuse” to the authorities. I don’t feel sorry for anyone in this case besides the actual victim.
Jason looks like 24 going on 40.
half into the video, and I wanna mention that speaking about your traumatic experience like it's everyday life doesn't mean that a person is lying.I know that unfortunately from my own experience.when stuff like this becomes your life you just get used to it pretty quickly and you don't even think about changing something, you're just like "nah, this happend and then this, and then this was even funny.... anyways...."
p.s. if you ask people about my mom they will tell you that she is the sweetest person to ever exist, couldn't hurt a fly.
in reality, excuse my language but she's more like "narcissistic psychopatic b***" like if she had a little bit more power she'd absolutely be a threat to society.
Perfect! Just what I needed on a cold Friday night, snacks and true crime with Eleanor 😍
I haven’t watched your videos in a while and clicked this one on a whim and you’ve come into your own so much!! This was so interesting and you’re such a dynamic host
I just got my friend out of a relationship she had with a 23 year old. She's 15. She thought I was being mean. I didn't want her to be happy. I was jealous because she had a partner that loved her. I made her break up with him and he immediately started saying he hated her and that she was crushing his hopes and dreams by doing this. I told her to stay strong, she didn't go back to him and she's happier and even thanked me for getting her out of that. He lived in Nigeria and we live in Colorado. The age of consent in Nigeria is 11 and over here its 17.
Ok ok but I used to talk very nonchalantly abt my moms abuse all the time, especially when I was younger, because it was so common for me. My dad didn’t do anything abt it cos my mom was such a good liar. But it all came out eventually, I’m sad for Rochelle if she rlly was abused and was accused of lying 🥺💔
Sometimes what everyone sees isn’t the case. At one point my mom got somewhat violent with me and it sort of stayed that way. Nobody would know bc she worries about me and stuff. I doubt the mother did abuse her because she seems to be a chronic liar but abuse is underestimated.
I was 14 when I started seeing a 21 year old.
I went against my family hard.
I ended up pregnant before I was 16 😥
I wish I had listened (tho I would never change my son he makes me super proud)
Sadly I am going through similar with my younger kids dad,in a weird sickening way.
He is 36 and he started a college course where he groomed and got with a 16/17 year old who also happens to have my sister's name. My sister past away 3 years ago 😥
I know I will probably get slapped with "So what it is legal at that age" but I am sorry,she is a child until she has lived her life a bit longer without an older man taking control of her life.
I am so broken over this and he is no longer involved with his children as a result.
I really hope that the poor child wakes up quicker than I did, she seems nice, one of my sons knows her,and she has her whole life ahead of her, she doesn't need to be stuck with an older man who has nothing to offer (lives with mum, can't keep a job and is no longer able to procreate) and is very very controlling and manipulative.
I appreciate this may come across as tho I am bitter but I am not. I am in a relationship that is healthy and uplifting and for lack of a better word,normal, it's my boys I feel sorry for not myself 🥺
Don't know why I felt like I was safe enough to share this on a comment thread but this story brought up alot more of the story than I can actually share.
I guess it speaks to how at home I feel listening to Eleanor, thanks again beautiful for letting us know the stories of all of the victims you have brought to our attention,keep up the good work lass 😘
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This case reminds me of the Richardson family. It was a similar motive where the the daughter wanted to be with her 22-year-old boyfriend and due to the age gap, of course her parents wouldn't approve. She not only killed her parents but also her younger brother. It's a really sad case. Her boyfriend killed her parents and she was the one who killed her brother. I don't remember if she's still in prison but I think she got out. But I don't know. I think she deserves more time because in a way she was telling her "boyfriend" to kill her mother because of how abusive she was when it's unknown if the allegations were real. I can't believe she only got three years. The justice system is a mess.
Eleanor has done a video on that case!
I agree. I just dont understand if she was abusing you and the police asked about your relationship. Why lie and say it was "normal" mother daughter relationship. So yeah I feel like she lied to her friends and her boyfriend to get her mom out of her business for good.
This is so sad, I’m almost in tears hearing the details of Laurie and how he was forcing her to drink the wine… that poor woman…
I love you you always seem to find a case ive never herd of!!! Im a true crime junkie and seems like everyone is always doing the same one over and over but NOT you, absolutely one of my favorite's!!! Thank you❤❤❤
I watched the whole video and the thing that caught me out the most was when you said "Craig. ..... it's just a blokes name innit" and laughed 😂
How much has Eleanor changed over the past year.
Thanks for all your hatf work Eleanor.
heyy! a person who lives in alaska here! all those islands at the bottom of alaska are called the Aleutian chain. it’s still a part of a alaska and is pronounced uh-loo-shin chain or at least that’s how i was taught to pronounce it lol