The 12 YEAR OLD Killer & Her Werewolf Boyfriend
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Today's solved true crime case is on the Richardson family murders - 12 year old killer Jasmine Richardson and her 'werewolf boyfriend' Jeremy Steinke murdered her whole family in 2006.
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The killing of her little brother is absolutely horrifying and so upsetting. The fact he tried to defend himself with a lightsaber and cried out in pain when stabbed. Just so shocking and sad
It is. That is what really makes me mad. That kid died for what? NOTHING. That child had a whole life ahead of him, and she ended it. I am so so mad rn.
I think Jeremy said that Jasmine killed her little brother due to the fact that child killers aren't favored in prison. So he was looking out for himself. He didn't care about Jasmine.
As a mom it just breaks my heart so much it physically hurts me to hear it.
I actually started crying when I heard that it broke my heart when she said he tried to fight back with his lightsaber. God bless there souls they truly did not deserve that.
i just sobbed when i heard that. that poor innocent angel.
im ashamed of those older goth friends for not stepping in and saying that it was not okay for a 23 year old and a 12 year old to be in a relationship
exactly, he should have been investigated way before the murders
Hell i called my ex friend disgusting bc they are 22-23 dating a 16 yo. I hipe they never become a popular music artist like they want to bc then i will have to expose him
@@Noah60 you can’t expose them unless they become a popular artist? That’s absolutely not right. That screams your only doing it for the attention it will bring you because they are popular. You should do it because it is wrong and you have morals.
@@emilyhicks1224I agree
@@Noah60here are your morals?? tell the cops or parents
Poor Jacob broke my heart, trying to defend himself with a toy lightsaber; it's so messed up, i just can't wrap my head around it. Jazmin has no empathy on my side.
I totally agree.
Init how can you let someone kill your entire family
As soon as I saw this comment I got a sick feeling and realized I couldn't watch this. So sad. 😔
Ditto, I was gutted.... poor little guy.
My thoughts exactly. Killing a child is one of the worst things you could ever do. She doesn’t get redemption or forgiveness after that.
As a gothy older sister this absolutely breaks my heart i couldn't even comprehend doing something so sick to my little brothers. Jasmine gives our community such a bad reputation I promise we're not all murderers or nonces
agreed !
I have a younger brother whom is a 6ft 4 goth when people meet him they are shocked to meet the big teddy bear behind the makeup.
Yall do really have a dark reputation which imo turns me off sm
@@rayanhatoum1638 the way you're so judgemental seriously turns me off too buddy
Agreed it's so sad:(
This case is the perfect example of “immature but not innocent”
THIS 👍👍👍
And people saying it’s not her fault she was a victim can shut up. Being a victim doesn’t justify what happened.
@@makiroll218 Exactly! I genuinely hate how forgiving people are towards her when she literally bragged about her brother gargling to a friend of Jeremy’s. She got off on it. I wouldn’t doubt that she probably brags and finds it entertaining to see people make videos on her and talk about her.
@@a.p.5342 yes i feel the same, she should’ve gotten sm more time imo, no justice was served for her parents & poor jacob):
Sounds like a movie or a book
when she said “he doesn’t like you he likes your age” i’ve never been able to put that into words thank you SO much for saying that and explaining also how she felt. this is why i love you and your channel 🤍
PERIOD
Wait this confused me
@@lyrasan5659 same
@@lyrasan5659 She is trying to say, its not that he likes you for who you are or you as a person, he is in love with the fact that you are a child. That you are young and that your body is that of a child. ie. pedophilia
@@Brit_Bork oh okay ty
Her poor little brother. I can’t imagine how afraid he was hearing his parents getting attacked downstairs then waiting to be killed, by his older sister he looked up to 💔
How far would you people go to save your own sister from becomming a monster if you were in Jacob Richardson's position?
@@canadavatar I wouldn't , I would have ran away
Don't forget about his poor eight year old friend that saw the woman's horrifying bloody body covered in stabs. He just saw something terrible and unforgettable that I'm sure gave him night terrors for a while, and later hears that his best friend was killed, too. That poor kid! I really hate that girl.
@@ashleyobrien4830 I mean if You hace witnessed your sister rebellious behavior from the beginning after her patentes found out about her relationship and started being violent, would you have tried something to convince her to change?
@@ashleyobrien4830 well were you in that situation i thought id run away if there was s break in but I didn’t I didn’t even hide because i was 8 and didn’t understand and told myself it wasn’t a break in just a fall 😶
Surrounded by his toys clutching a light saber…yeah, it sounds like the boy was going to try to fight them off. He created a shield around himself and armed himself with the best weapon he had….
Was probably shook to death when the bad guys finally opened his door and revealed to be his own sister.
This just breaks my heart, my god I just can’t imagine.
I get what your trying to say but I can telling you didn’t watch this video
@@marveled_frey?
@@heyjude6680 they literally very obviously haven’t watched the whole video and it’s so clear, and if your confused then you didn’t either
@@marveled_freyum how? 😂
@@marveled_frey..huh
I cant believe Jasmines record was wiped. This wasnt some "mistake" it was premeditated murder of her own family. Someone who went through with that-who came up with the plan/idea- can never be the same
So true. I understand she was 12, and I guess you could say that she didn’t understand the gravity of the situation and thought by killing someone it feels like it does in the movies. I don’t think she realised what the implications of that are in real life. So I think that’s as part of it. But no matter how angry I got at my parents at 12 years old, I would never ever dream of killing them, let alone planning their murder and then carrying it out and acting like nothing had happened after. She is defiantly very mentally disturbed. And although the grooming wouldn’t have helped and would have just made that worse and distorted her reality ever more, she defiantly had deep rooted issues in the first place.
Canadian justice system is awful. Recently a 14 year old murdered another boy from school, at school. He got 4 years in jail and 3 year probation. And by time his sentencing happened he was already in for 2 years and they are calling that "time served" toward the 4 year. Canadian justice system does not hold kids accountable for adult crimes at all.
except she can be the same because she is she has not reoffended
In canada we have something called the YCJA (youth criminal justice act). It's for things such as shoplifting, even up to murder. I would recommend looking into our judicial system. There are definitely controversial opinions about it. But this is an extreme case that fell under this act. I learned about this case in 2016 (the same year she was released from her sentence) in my social studies class. It is very interesting
Yeah and the fact I heard that she got a Scholarship is just crazy and disgusting
I’m glad she was able to be rehabilitated but I think it’s an outrage that she got this special treatment and Gypsy Rose didn’t. Gypsy was horrifically abused entire life by her mother and saw no other way out. She also didn’t physically do anything herself. I’m not saying Gypsy is all innocent because she’s not but she definitely deserves better.
Gypsy Rose also took place in the United States, where as this one happened in Canada. There's different legislation.
Gypsy's boyfriend also agreed to do it because he "always wanted to see what it was like to kill someone". He also told Gypsy she would have to allow him to rape her as payment. She cried while her mom was being stabbed, and she went through horrendous pain while he violently raped her. So, yeah, Gypsy was definitely desperate to get away from her abusive mom.
Jasmine is straight up a piece of crap that desired to kill her eight year old brother and laugh about it afterwards. She had absolutely no reason to kill her family. Gypsy had tried running away before, got caught, and was handcuffed to her bed and given no food and water for three days. Clearly Gypsy had an excuse whereas this psycho did not. That sick freak, Jasmine, and the abused girl Gypsy should have gotten opposite sentences.
Well you know...USA for you lol
I honestly sympathize with Gypsy Rose a lot more though. I want her freed.
There's also a good chance it was also because she was legally an adult while Jasmine was 12 and being groomed by an adult
Compared to Gypsy though, this case just rubs me the wrong way with what they were both charged with...Like...it just feels quite wrong? I can't explain it?
Maybe it's because, compared to Jasmine, Gyspy was done quite dirty since she met multiple doctors saying that even after her mom's murder, she didn't want to stand from her wheelchair since she was still worried what she would do to her...And she never got help for that. She should've at least got that, even if she got the same sentence
I don't see how you could take away someone's life especially an 8 year old boy who begged for his life and defended himself with a toy lightsaber. How could you do something like that? They deserve to rot in prison.
It’s corrupted
How can you kill a CHILD yet still get less than 10 years AND clean slate record
Honestly vile and if I saw someone like that I’ll fight them in a heartbeat
@@saintshrooms9424 Best comment. I agree.
Let alone your own BROTHER as an older sister this made me sick to the stomach I can’t imagine what this little baby felt and the fear he went through.
@@celinemara565 for real, he was begging for his life amd BEGGING her not to do what she was about to do
I hope she gets night terrors every night and sickening guilt until the day she dies and then pays penance in hell, that poor child
Wiping away her history, is a slap in the face to her victims.
Her victims are dead. They don't know the difference.
Exactly
As a parent, this one really confuses me. Yes she did an awful thing, and deserves to be punished. At the same time she was a sick mlittle girl, who needed help. If the just locked her up, her life is over too. Hopefully, whatever she is doing now, I hope she is trying to help other kids who may be able to relate to her.
@@olszewski422ify probably your
Opinion but I would never let her near any kids, that detailed planned crime can never be undone
@@olszewski422ify yes, it confuses me too. Regardless of what we may feel. One thing that’s a fact, Is that her parents loved her and wanted the best for her.
Jasmine getting psychological help and becoming a healthy person. Is the outcome I’m sure her parents and brother would have wanted. People are so quick to judge and hand out punishment’s. But we have to remember this was a 12 year old little girl, That had mental health issues. Then to make things even worse a 23 year old man decided to prey upon her Innocence. People don’t seem to understand that she’s a victim too.
Yikes imagine starting a family with someone who took part in killing their own family and you have no way of knowing because their criminal record is wiped clean/they changed their name.
im sure whoever she's decided to get married too knows. There was another similar case and the boy had his name changed when he got out and he grew up met a woman and told her. They are now married with kids.
@@syd1764 do you remember the name of that case ?
@@fancy9131 I think it's the one with the little two year old baby. James Bulger the victim's name was I think? One of his killers is the one who got married with kids while the other has been in and out jail
Definitely scary 😩
@@missmax2492 yes that one too!
She has a new name, she went to my university when I was there 8 years ago, we all knew it was her, no name change will save you. I also know someone who was in jail the same time Jeremy was, and apparently he's still acting like a werewolf In jail
Nah cus wtf
was she bullied for what she did?? like did she have friends or
@@nelljenn I personally never seen someone do anything to her, but us that knew definitely stayed away from her. It looked like a very small friend group, but then again those people probably didn't know
Wait, how did they find out what she did?
Oh that would have been absolutely terrifying knowing you went to uni with a murderer.
Jasmine is definition of ‘not right in the head’ she was actually obsessed with the concept of murdering her family. She did not have the innocence of a child. Seriously creepy, really creepy.
her latching to a friendgroup and subculture to fit in because she thought it was cool was very childish. and deciding that you dont like your family because they dont support your unhealthy relationship with an adult and planning to kill them is also a childish solution, most adults wouldnt think that way, because theyre more mature than that and would think of another solution, even the guy who was grooming her thought there was a better solution. if she never met this guy, and wasnt stopped from meeting him by her parents, then she would have no reason to feel badly towards them and plan to kill them. its really all the groomers fault
Deep down, just deep down, I wish her brother escaped and survived so so bad 😪
@isabelleashdownbrandstromm598I agree it seriously messes with your head. That said I don’t think she should have been completely absolved of murder, it’s not fair how her little brother didn’t get to live but she did completely deprived of consequences. Her university and her classmates should have at least been informed for their own protection.
Yah she’s not innocent but she’s also a 12 year old child being manipulated by a man. To say this is like just an evil child is crazy.
She was incredibly toxic and manipulative. Jeremy actually had fetal alcohol syndromeand it was not the first time Jasmine had tried to kill her family. It was actually the third time, and she was finally successful. Her "innocence" never existed, and she didn't feel guilty about the murders, either.
I live in this city. I actually lived in a house down the block for them. The Richardsons were lovely, lovely people and truly just wanted to protect their daughter. As a community, we still talk about how horrifying this case was. It's truly heartbreaking.
Have you ever seen Jasmine since the murders?
I can’t believe she got a clean slate. That’s honestly ridiculous. She may have been a child but she still murdered three humans.
So her humanity should be lost to a life behind bars ?
@@everycolourinthesky what humanity? She murdered her whole family?!
unfortunately, but im kinda half on it. i do believe everyone who isnt given life should be given a chance
@@Godivaa agreed im glad she was rehabilitated but she still didn’t need her ecord wiped
@@hydralily1646 omg definitely, why would they do that?? especially since she literally planned it and helped kill. if i see her its on sight
What seriously breaks my heart is the thought that Jacob could have thought the light saver he was holding would help him ‘beat the bad guys’ or something. Just shows how innocent he was, still being in a fantasy world. Truly heart wrenching.
And Jasmine took that innocent little one's life away,like he didn't matter over her own selfish and foolish reasons.
@@moonblossom7903 fr. gut wrenching
this honestly breaks my heart
honestly just sad so its just totally heartbreaking
BTW, Eleanor I just heard about a serial killer called the doodlerer who would draw his victims before he killed them and it is such an interesting case that no one has really talked about.
Yeah Lights out podcast did it few weeks back it's such a interesting story
@@amandawright9790 oh she did it already ?
@@meowmeowshamsa lights out is another podcast, they covered it
@@meowmeowshamsa no Lights out Podcast did but Eleanor def should it's such an interesting story
Thanks for this tip! I’ve just added it to my list. :)
They claimed to love "Natural Born Killers", yet completely overlooked the fact that Mickey & Mallory did not harm a hair on Kevin's (Mallory's little brother) head after killing the parents 😥
Exactly my thinking. Also they killed for purpose (their own purpose) the whole film is about how we are consumers and the media is man made weather... they were clearly not smart enough to see the actual meaning behind the film
@@JessieGx OP is also romanticizing Mickey and Mallory and fully missing the point
As a former mall rat goth girl, I can attest that there are always creepy older guys in the group. They didn’t have their own friend group in school or neighborhood, so they branched out and loved the attention they got from kids; it made them feel big and better about themselves. This case is heartbreaking.
Same here, i had a similar type of group and there were always guys age 20 to 25 who 15, 16 year old me thought were the coolest. Having grown up now i realised, they were friendless outcasts within their own age group, and possibly on the prowl for younger people. I'm glad nothing I'm aware of happened amongst my peers, but it goes to show how common it is amongst youths..
What’s a mall rat goth?
I was homeschooled through middle school and went to high school at 9th grade, age 14/15. I had my best friend from down the road and the rest of our group were all the "weirdos" or "misfits". Amongst us were the goths and in that group was a second year senior. In my naivety, I thought that meant he was in the smart/advanced classes. In reality, it meant he was probably about 20. I started calling him my boyfriend and we would make out and whatnot. I was still a virgin at this point, so I never thought about sex. One time at a school sports event, he talked me into going in to a stall in the men's room with him. I started to feel uncomfortable with the whole situation. Luckily, someone came in and said something and it gave me a moment of clarity and I left as fast as possible. After that I distanced myself and shortly after that he wasn't at school anymore and I never found out what happened. I realize now as a grown woman how awful all of that is and how it could have been so much worse.
To whoever walked in that bathroom that day, I thank you!
I ABSOLUTELY love that you keep putting weight on her age, and the fact that "it's not a relationship, it's grooming, it's pedophilia"
Right! So many people gloss over that fact and speak about her and them as if they're both in their twenties.
@@kaylawilliam Totally agree. This comment section is messed up and depressing.
IKR LIKE. i have seen other true crime channels cover this case and they always call them "a young couple" or sometimes even blame jasmine for being in that situation with a grown man and it is just so baffling and gross to me.......
I almost broke down at work hearing that they speculated Jacob was trying to defend himself with his lightsaber. That poor innocent baby. And that poor baby that found them, I hope he got therapy.
must have been horrible finding out ur bestfriend was murdered by a memeber of their own family must have been horrible trying to tell a child his friend is dead
That must have been embarassing for u
@@Unbreakable245 ?
I know this isn't the point but he was 8, he wasn't a baby
@@bellaknightR597 it’s a figure of speech. I know an infant or toddler didn’t find them. Eight is incredibly young to find three brutalized bodies, especially when you knew them personally.
The fact that she is out after she killed 3 PEOPLE!! Absolutely astonishes me. She killed her WHOLE family, and now is walking free. How can someone KILL the people who cared for her most.. the people who GAVE HER LIFE. And have the audacity to walk free.
exactly. Everyone acting like 12 year olds can't be treated as adults. In my old school, there was a 12 year old who had sex with her uncle - she wasn't molested, she chose to do that. then she blackmailed him, like wtf? The entire family obviously cut her off, she was such a b*tch.
i know it was her idea but please stfu she only killed her brother and she was mentally unstable
I feel really bad for her parents it sounds like they tried to do everything right (except for not calling the cops right away)
Same! I was like holy shut who do I watch?? Both of course 💕
@@grace.stewartt4224 i think you replied under the wrong comment lol
How would u call the cops in this situation on ur 12year old who is drifting apart from you bc she thinks she likes him maybe actually councilor could have had prevented e everything if he or she was doing it's Job! She needed mental help and this could have been predicted at least , unfortunately rape and pedophilia is not taken and punished or proven that easily bc law is to specific about it and there are a lot of grey areas that are not taken into consideration
@@mariamakermanMarz call the cops on the man literally raping their child
Personally think she was just spoiled rotton. It doesn't make your kid greatful & happy & loving...instead they just end up hating their parents. Seen it firsthand many times. Spoiled kids hate their parents even more than neglected abused kids do. I was beaten regularly as a kid while my younger sister was spoiled & could do no wrong. She's the most mean, cruel, miserable & jealous person I know. It did not serve her one bit & she hates & resents my parents more than I ever did. I've seen foster kids with severely dysfunctional parents who love their parents more than rich spoiled rotton brats do. Don't spoil your kids people. They will hate you for it. No doubt it was probably the first time she was ever denied anything & she turned into a straight up Monster to get her way.
The “he doesn’t like you, he likes ur age” perfectly describes how I feel. I was groomed trough socials when I was 11-12 and I thought this 21 y/o man rly loved me but he only loved my innocence..
facts.
Why would you have such a gross username in that case 🤢
@@melaniestevens3557 maybe because it's easier to normalize the comedy of topics that have already been normalized in legitimate actions? There's a lot of papers and physiological study around trauma and humour.
as to nor further distract from a point though, I'm awfully sorry to OP and I hope you've been given the chance at life and love so far of which you deserve, of which as a human you are entitled to, and I'm sorry as a child those things were used against you. Not your fault at all.
@@melaniestevens3557 it’s a meme
@@melaniestevens3557 touch grass
As a big sister, this case hurts me deep. I love all my little siblings, I could never do such things to them. Especially my baby brother. I feel terrible for the victims and their family, it must’ve been horrifying to go through.
as the oldest, i would die for my siblings
@@randomhotdogcar same here
the only thing i could think about was just how manipulated she must have been to do that. i’d have to not be me.
This type of case really tells me what how matter how much or a good or bad parent you are your kids could potentially become a danger and problem to your life, the fear of having kids is actually terrifying the fact that her friends turned her like that is actually scary and sinister itself im glad I never had goth or emo friends not that I have anything against them but would of turned out to become a freak like Jasmine or Jeremy
@@bettybunnell7930 *manipulative*, as she was the manipulator not the one being manipulated. Therefore, she would be manipulative.
Just some grammar 101 helpful tips. 😉
im usually able to handle dark stuff, but hearing that the poor little boy tried using his toy lightsaber to defend himself just broke something inside of me and i began *sobbing.*
jasmine shouldnt have ever been forgiven for any of that.
She was 12 so i think forgiveness was right
She still lives with the guilt
That is the worst punishment
@@Unbreakable245 when I was 12 I didn’t murder my family you know
@@kaeya-san3103 right
@FinalVictory no sane 12yr old murders their entire family she should never have been forgiven
@@kaeya-san3103exactly
When she said Jacob was found with his toy lightsaber in his hand my heart broke. If that's the case then to me it sounds like that poor little boy was trying to defend himself with the best weapon he could think of, a lightsaber, and just the image of that is incredibly upsetting :(
I think he was rather trying to find some comfort because he was so scared, holding his favourite toy surrounded by teddies :(
I thought the same thing! :(
I cried a little when I heard that.
Same, it broke me so much :( I had to stop listening after that
so sad. poor little child.. i hope hes doing okay now. im 12 and it blows my mind.
Jasmine’s extended family are better people than me. No way I would have embraced and supported her. No way ever.
Embracing someone like this doesn’t make you a good person.
Tbh I don’t think they’re good people
i think personally it would take a long time to forgive if this happened to me
@@jadel8764 forgiveness would never happen. Idc if she was a victim. She didn’t get enough years and she clearly was planning this- it wasn’t out of now where.
I would NEVER embrace someone who killed my family especially since you’ve grown up surrounded by the person and even if they were my own grandchild I would just never even speak to them again
Hailey Elizabeth JUST posted about this family’s murder. I’m still going to watch this one just because I love Eleanor and her voice 😂
LMFAO, I was so confused for a sec cause I watched Hailey's earlier and now Eleneor's
just watched that!
i just watched the same one 😂😂
What a lame comment, don’t plug another RUclipsr on someone else’s channel
I literally just finished watching that video then I got Eleanor’s notification and omg I’m jumping
This girl got a second chance she did not deserve. She killed her little brother while he pleaded to her, LAUGHED about him suffering. All she got was basically a slap on the wrist for the horrendous crimes she took part in.
literally, i don’t care if she was 12, she premeditated the murder of her parents are her 8 year old little brother, that’s a monster
To give her the benefit of the doubt: If I were a murderer behind bars, (which I wouldn’t be), I would say anything for a chance to get out of jail. (meaning: her boyfriend)
IMO: either way, the court of law determined that she was rehabilitated, and she was a child who got manipulated, gr**med, r*ped, and she admits to stabbing her little brother.- whether or not she laughed about it or not, we’ll probably never know.
And as far as we know, she’s never reoffended. I will totally retract my statement if she ever reoffends, but I’d like to believe that there is some good in the world, and that rehabilitation *is* possible. Because she was *allegedly* not able to finish out the murder.
@@togepi14you’re disgusting, and I have a very sneaky suspicion you’d have a different opinion if this was a 12 year old boy
I've heard about this case several times, but I don't think anyone took the time to talk so much about Jacob, the little brother. Hearing more about him and his awful, tragic death at such a young age just adds an extra layer of awful to this case. I also appreciate all the emphasis Eleanor put on how Jasmine was a little girl while Jeremy was a grown ass man who groomed and manipulated her.
as someone who grew up with the internet and was in the “emo” group, A LOT of grown men and older teenagers (16-18) prey on younger girls (11-14) all over social media. i cannot count how many times i was potentially groomed or sexualized by people in the alternative scene; luckily, i learned my lesson quickly and never dealt with it as much as i was picked on by them and my peers.
at the age of 12, you are nowhere near developed into independence like Jasmine insisted. her parents did everything and she still found a way around it, for the worst. she deserves a life sentence with no parole for all 3 lives. but the Canadian legal system is a joke. so tragic.
Same! Iooking back I'm pretty sure I was groomed by 2 different boyfriends on FB back when I was 15ish. Luckily I was never able to meet them irl (though I tried)
Bad enough in real life. At least while eyes are watching men it keeps some of them away. But online they are terrible. Makes it worse they often get into things that allow them to hang with others like them. Almost grooming each other. To behave more risky. Putting young girls and boys in danger. Just remember its them that are in the wrong. The sooner people learn that the better. Don't be afraid to report them. Or feel guilty
You're spot on there, it was very much the same when I was in that scene here in New Zealand and it is so damaging to the long term mental and interpersonal health of the targets of the grooming.
Ditto, now as a 35 year old woman.. looking back it's so so rampant in the 'goth' scene. So much untowards stuff happened, not just online but at gigs and being in such close proximity in mosh pits etc. This story always reminds me of my school friend who used to go to the other end of my city and stay over night with a 30 sometning year old man when she was 13/14. So sick
Same situation in the alternative scene in South America.
I want to point out that he's asking her to marry him is PART of the grooming. He needs to reinforce their bond so that she will behave him & stay 'with' him moving forward.
That's right. My husband's mom was 15 when she met my husbands father who was 25 at the time. They got married a year later, and now, 50ish years later they are still together and she is STILL sooo crazy about that man. I don't get it. I mean I get it, but I don't if you know what I'm saying.
@@LadyLakeland I hope you’re MIL gets out of there soon
@@stardustdemon8273 What? They didn't indicate it was an abusive relationship or something. Yes, the age gap is weird, but I know in my Grandmother's day, a teenager marrying a older man wasn't as looked down upon as it is now. It was expected that the "man takes care of the woman" and someone that's already an adult and has an established life would be desirable from a stability standpoint. Is that how things are done now? No, but I can 100% believe it if we are talking 50 years ago. If Jay's MIL and her husband are happy together and it's a functional marriage, I don't understand why the MIL would need to "get out of there soon" considering they've been together for 50 years.
Trying to view the past using modern morals and perspective just leads to confusion. Such a relationship makes more sense when viewed from the perspective of someone living in that time. Do I agree with such relationships especially in today's world? No. But I can understand it to an extent.
@@LadyLakeland unrelated but ure so pretty (if the person in the pfp is u)
@@coffeefox5703 there is no understanding, it was wrong then and wrong now. not sure why you're writing a paragraph trying to reason why and how it was normal for a grown man in his mid 20s to pursue a 15 year old girl in high school. she was groomed, that is an abusive relationship.
It absolutely broke my heart when I heard about the little brother. It hit close to home, he reminds me of my own brother, who is 8 right now. Rest in Peace and fly high Jacob, you’re in a better place now🕊️🕊️
I cried when she was describing the murder of the little brother. That poor little boy! :'(
Of course, I feel bad for the parents too, but little children being murdered is just so extra evil.
especially his little light saber he had to protect himself, i feel so bad for this little boy
Its not evil though because their a child its evil because the child is a human being the child is living and there was a life that was taken
@@rustyblonchjr8660 fuck is you talkin bout bro
@@rustyblonchjr8660 it is worse. Children are completely innocent and can’t fight back.
@@Autumnpearly "it is worse" that's bullshit
no murder is worse than the other its like saying murder is worse than rape
rape is worse than murder
killing humans is worse than killing animals
killing animals is worse than killing humans
killing someone I like is worse than killing someone I don't like
etc
No there is no such thing as worse in this context its all equally bad
"they can't fight back" depends on the kid and depends on the situation/context there's kids that can fight back there's kids won't be able to fight back same goes for Adults and everyone else
"Completely innocent" what do you mean by that
the fact that a woman who killed her entire family when she was 12 has much better luck in life and has been able to build a career and everything doesn’t sit well with me 😕
Rehabilitating people doesn't sit right with you? Okay then.
Idk it’s kinda inspiring tbh
@@alexbennet4195 sorry but it’s sickening when you think of someone who murdered 3 ppl…do they get a redo in life,no
@@alexbennet4195 I think the rehabilitation was super great, and I’m glad that the justice system gave her that. However, I think there is some obligation to the public to keep her crimes on the public record. That to me is the only thing that rubs me the wrong way about this case.
@@alexbennet4195 how was someone able to be rehabilitated in 6 months?
As a person who partakes in emo and punk culture, cases/situations like this saddens me.
This is why theres such a stigma around alternative culture.
This girl gave that whole subculture a bad name
Same man.
sorry i was scared of u all before i know you're not all like this lmao. it's just these some people who take the whole edgy thing too far and use it to justify crime
@@ruthlesslove9556 Yeah, almost takes your mind completely away from the depression/suicide rate, the drugs and well documented rate of self harm affiliated with this subculture. As a father and grandfather, I have seen all of this up close and personal. Thank God my relationship with my two daughters allowed them to take part in this era while still keeping them focused on who they are rather than what might have been expected of them.
@@marksherfy3791 Good point.
I do just want to mention that Vampire Freaks wasn't "mostly" for people like Jeremy. I used to chat on that site and it's just a meeting place/ social media site for punks, goths, and anyone who considers themselves alternative or not mainstream. I never met anyone on there who insisted that they were a supernatural creature.
i dont think the thinking youre a mythical creature part should be the main concern for the website reputation.... not sayin the reputation should be of a killer but i know people who "believe" themselves to be mystical creatures (most being autistic) and it doesnt really have any connection to murder
@eleanorawaaijane i have autism and because of my experiences as an autistic person being alienated from my peers and being treated as subhuman for like all my life is directly the reason why i do not see myself as human and more than half of my other autistic friends have had the exact same experience
yeah, i was there too and it wasn't like that, i never saw anyone like that either that i can remember
i don't know why she thought that it was
It was just like LiveJournal but for the alternative crowd. I do understand that it is not that important to the case but it also made me raise an eyebrow.
I honestly think the "blood" he wore around his neck was actually food colouring, it would explain why the cookies turned pink
100% it was a fashion thing because it was big news that Billy Bob and Angelina did this so many people copied this but with fake blood it food colouring
yikes thats so embarrising for him
Yeah, with actual blood it would probably take a reddish brown or something
lmfao these wannabe werewolf p3do mfs istg
If it was real blood it would degrade very quickly too.
this case alone is why im afraid to have children. those parents did everything right by her. they supported her healthy interests, loved her unconditionally, gave her attention, and she still murdered them
It's so scary, isn't it? 😨 I think the only thing that the parents didn't do was call the police when they found out about the 23 year old grooming their daughter. If he had been arrested and charged then maybe that would have kept them apart. It sounds like Jasmine had some psychological issues that were only made worse by the situation too. You can only do your best for your children and her parents did that. RIP 🙏
I have a daughter. If I ever find myself in a similar situation, we will moving as far alway as we can.
I dont think they were smart in letting their 11-12 year old go to shows with only her friends. Concerts and shows are crawling with creepy men. Maybe they didn't understand that? But how?
@@ysag.1227 I agree they were too trusting in their daughter and her "friends" yes you should give your kids trust but not in that way.
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Since my family comes from Alberta, this case hit really close to home. My family used to live in the same exact area, and it was a SHOCK when it happened. There's in fact a plaque for the little boy who was killed at the school he went to. :(
the fact that she went to MRU blowsssss my mind
I was a boy. They were two girls. Can I make it any more obvious? I am RUclips's ALPHA MALE. Acknowledge it, dear mei
OMG IM FROM BC!!!!!!!!!
Eleanor is a good storyteller I could listen to her all day while im bed shes very cute as well 😉
That baby, my heart breaks
as a 21 year old if one of my friends said “yeah my girlfriends 12” i’m calling the cops
This situation isn’t funny at all but I love this comment and it made me laugh. Any normal person would feel the same way!! If my friend did anything like that… Your gf is 12? Are you okay?? Lol
There's nothing like getting to your mid 20s and realizing that there's absolutely no way you could even fathom being with someone even as young as 18. Like that's a whole child. There's no justification for why adult men were even flirting with us. It's genuinely sickening. We were children.
even in high school i couldn’t IMAGINE looking at an 8th grader ANY type of way 🥴🥴🥴 people are
DISGUSTING
OMG so much this! Getting a bit older really puts things into perspective, and it all just shows how grooming is normalised when men do it to younger girls.
When does an age gap become an ok age difference just curious what different people think? Like once they turn 18 is it ok or still later on?? )
@@jamie-leighgibson2338 I think like mid twenties. Like if you choose to date a 40 year old, you're educated enough to understand the age gap. 18 year olds have no clue what it means to date someone even 5 years older than them. There's just so much of a mental gap and they're vulnerable, it's like taking advantage of them. Once both parties are not vulnerable, then an age gap isn't the worst thing.
@@jamie-leighgibson2338 adults, an age gap between 2 adults is fine, a 19 year old and a 17 year old is where is still bad
I don't care how dolled up she was, a 12 year old girl looks like a child, a teenager. They look young, no matter how much makeup and what kinds of clothes. It is absolutely incomprehensible to me that an adult could even be attracted to a 12 year old. I think what happened to her was sick and terrible, and she needed help
I think Eleanor said, that she looked young and people said she looked 14 or 15. Looking at the pictures she definitely looks 15 even without make-up. Regardless, he had to have eventually learned her age and he didn't care.
She was only 11-12 when he met her. (When I met her too) and yes she looked much much older. She looked 15-16 with make up. She was developed and taller.
Still absolutely disgusting that he and her had a relationship.
But I will never forget how down I felt about myself after meeting her, she was stunning and I was jealous.
@@kaitlyncarter5698 what was she like when you met her
tbh, the pics I have seen she looks around 17/18 to me, shocking she is much younger. She would not have looked out of place in the social groups we had when younger, around 16-25 year olds would have a big party on the beach and in the woods etc.
@@kaitlyncarter5698 Can you please elaborate?
Him asking her to marry him in the holding cell kinda makes sense even though it’s fully disgusting. married people can’t testify against each other in a court of law. And being each others only witness itd weaken the evidence. So I guess it was kinda of his last way of taking advantage if they had been allowed to get married
I'm pretty sure that only applies to crimes committed during the marriage. You can't just marry some one to stop them from testifying.
@@lynzmorg1463 good point
@@lynzmorg1463 I think you can. I knew a girl who got married while her partner was in prison so she wouldn’t have to testify against him. If that’s not how it works normally, maybe they just made an exception.
Also that doesn’t apply in Canada lol
A 12 year old can't get married anyway so what's the point?
12?? TWELVE???? Holy smokes. My daughter is 13 and she and her friends still play with stuffed animals. This case is completely heartbreaking. Poor baby Jacob.
Small thing about VampireFreaks: I was on that website in middle school (2007). It wasn’t really about supernatural creatures, it was for alternative/emo/goth teens to communicate. It was very cringe, and definitely had a lot of 20-something “emo boys” that would prey on teens. But I never encountered people who thought they were supernatural creatures.
oh wow thanks for the info
Can you imagine becoming friends with someone only for them to reveal to you that they murdered their family? Like, I don’t think I could trust someone who did that.
I don't think I would be able to trust anyone ever again
@@rx500android you dont.
this is why when you first meet someone you shouldn't trust them straight away as you never know what they have done in the past and what their plans are
@@ncengiz7820 I was best friends with mine for about 10 years and didn't see any signs when she did something like this. You just never know.
@@chelseetyler1003 what happened if you dont mind me asking
This case makes my stomach twist and twirl. Poor little Jacob. May his innocent soul rest in peace. It makes me so full of hatred and heartbreak at the same time.
Eleanor: this is one of the most disturbing, creepy, murder cases I’ve covered.
Also Eleanor: ANYWAYS this game is really really fun! 😁😁
I honestly feel bad for the father and that little boy slowly dying in a horrendous amount pain knowing that your own child/sister is the one behind it all I cant imagine how that type of betrayal must have felt like.
Her poor brother......he had his whole life ahead of him
For the judge to say her family would be proud of her blows my mind she was complicit in murdering them I dont think pride is the right sentiment😡😒🙄
Yeah it’s infuriating. I doubt they’d proud of her for murdering them and bragging about it.
WHAT??! The judge said this?🤨
That's progressives for you
So theoretically, Jasmine could be in a relationship now, with no obligation to ever acknowledge that her past ever happened. I tell you something, when whoever she's in a relationship with asked her the question "oh hey, so when do I get to meet your parents?" - I'd love to know how that conversation went. I'd imagine she reels off this backstory she's been given by the authorities and just plods on.
The whole thing is 50 shades of f**ked up, and that's before we even get started on that piece of pondlife that latched onto her, yikes! 😖
Yeah… one of the most screwed up cases I’ve seen (coming from someone who’s seen over 50 cases)
Pretty interesting that you use the phrase "50 shades of f**ked up" in a case that involves CSA, but you're somehow referring to her getting a second chance as the fucked up part. She doesn't have to tell employers or landlords, but I'm pretty sure a serious partner would know about her history, as I'm sure does her therapist.
@@Mrpapayaheadrulesall it’s because she doesn’t deserve a second chance. She murdered her family in cold blood and she should be in prison for life
Our "justice" system is just amazing isn't it ?!
even if things have been removed from your record, they still ask you to report them on law school applications, im not 100% sure but i guess as long as she doesn't ever pursue law school she'll be fine... :/
As a former teenage mall goth, this is horrific and if any of my friends had started dating a literal child and/or trying to lead them down this awful path, we would’ve taken them straight to the police. Terrible.
I still remember this case so vividly. The youth criminal justice act here in Canada is a joke. I'm a firm believer that if you're old enough to understand the consequences, you should be tried as an adult. At 12, you are VERY aware of the fact that murder is wrong. ESPECIALLY since she is the one who initiated the whole thing, she knew what she was doing. Yes, she may have been being groomed. Yes, she may have been influenced by a man twice her age. But at the end of the day, *he* isn't the one who proposed the plan, *she* was. The fact that she's out there and I could have walked past her in the street at some point makes me feel physically ill. It's great that she got the help she needed through therapy, but she should be spending her life behind bars. This wasn't just some petty crime or even just manslaughter - this was a premeditated triple homicide and should have been treated as such.
I'm a firm believer that the age of criminal responsibility needs to be raised up to 15
But we should be less barbaric, we should be forgiving, we should be progressive and let people back into society. People who at age 13 thought killing their family was a-okay. 🥴
She's a borderline. I can't believe she did this and got rewarded for it with therapy and a college education.
I think Jeremy told the undercover guard that Jasmine cut her little brothers throat instead of him so that he wouldn’t be targeted in jail. child killers/ pedos are not well received by other inmates
That or maybe she just did cut her brothers throat. I believe that she did. Jasmine kept on changing her story too.
He definitely didn't have a nice time in there anyway, jasmine was 12 after all. Killer or not, he raped a little girl. That ish don't fly in prison, way too many dads, brothers, and unclee for that ish
yeah,criminals can be the most horrendous people ever but pedos do not do well in prison
That poor 8 year old boy is the most heart breaking thing ever, so so sad :(
yes its heartbreaking but it's not heartbreaking because he's 8 its heartbreaking because he was a human being,he was alive,he was living, a life was taken
@@rustyblonchjr8660 um what
@@heyjude6680 A child is a human being right?a child is living right?The child life was taken right?
that's why it's heartbreaking because they are living, they have a life
@@rustyblonchjr8660 obviously it makes it more sad that he’s a kid though, that’s the point. It’s always worse when a child is killed.
@@gamertwig3909what should make it more sad is that a person was killed not the person's age
It's like saying them being killed is more sad because their "Attractive" or because their straight or because I like them or because they let me have sex with them etc
there's no such thing as "worse" when it comes to murder
that's downplaying the people that were killed
Jacob never deserved what happened to him. People like that little boy are too good for the world. I can't get over his smile. I swear the moment he popped up onto the screen I involuntary smiled because of him. The fact that his sister mocked this sweet little boy makes me furious, and it makes me curious about how someone could be so dimwitted to take away this little beam of light just because of their own selfish wants.
Out of all of the cases I've heard, this is the only one that makes me sob. The part about her brother hurts too much that the little boy died scared of his sister. Poor baby
fr, the poor parents and brother :(
I don’t know how to feel about this. I’ve been listening to true crime since I was around Jasmine’s age(I’m in my mid twenties now) and while I’ve heard plenty of cases that have made me enraged, this is literally the first case that’s made me break down in tears. Her poor brother. I feel shitty feeling this way, but I don’t think she deserves to live, HAVE FRIENDS, and enjoy life.The last few moments of her younger brothers life were full of pain and terror,and it’s outrageously unfair that she’s able to live a happy life after causing such pain. I literally can’t comprehend the unconditional love that her family has.
my exact thoughts. she didn’t give her little brother the chance to live his life, why should she have that option??? she’s cold hearted and no matter whatever new identity she’s taken, she’ll always be that cold hearted murderer
I agree It's honestly unfair for her to basically live her life like nothing happened.
I agree. If she was my family member I would disown her. I don't even feel bad admitting it. I had a baby brother as a teen & am now a mom of two boys. I just can't imagine. I hope he haunts her for the rest of her life.
Why do listen to a case if it makes you cry?
I completely agree how can she get to live her life with little to no repercussions while her 8 year old brother lost his life and her parents did everything to keep her safe from a predator and still lost there lives
Just hearing what the state of the family was in when both Jacob's friend and the police found them is just heartbreaking.
While I'm glad Jasmine was able to actually be rehabilitated and all that, the fact that she got her record wiped completely clean rubs me the wrong way. Just because she was able to become a new and less dangerous person doesn't mean that what she did never happened.
But I really think that Jeremy made everything worse. He definitely messed with her and led her to turn her dark thoughts into dark actions. Also, the fact that he thought/thinks he's a werewolf is wild. What the fuck.
This whole case is sickening. My heart goes out to her family, especially her poor, poor brother. May they all rest in peace.
I am really uncomfortable with Jasmine's "punishment". The grooming she went through was clearly sick and terrible but as a 12 year old she knew right from wrong. Her poor parents and beautiful younger brother.... their lives mindlessly snatched away and died so brutally. I get the rehabilitatuon argument but only for the sake of the public's safety, not for her. These laws are pretty bloody scary - to think that there are so few consequences for multiple murder of your own family just because of age. She doesn't deserve a clean slate, her family don't get a second chance of life 💔
"as a 12 year old she knew right from wrong" lmfao whaaaaaat
have you ever met a 12 year old? have you ever BEEN one?
@@katatonikbliss um yes and yes!!!! I brought up 3 boys who knew far younger than 12 years of age that it was wrong to murder their family 🤣🤣🤣🙄
@@katatonikbliss LOL trust me 12 year olds have sense, I've been 12 and I knew way more than what the world expected
@@katatonikbliss yeah I've been a 12 yr old. 12 yr old me wouldn't have known that dating a man who was 23 would have been horribly wrong.
BUT 12 YEAR OLD ME DEFINITELY KNEW MURDER WAS WRONG.
They don't know the more intricate right from wrong but.... Don't murder your whole family is a very clear and simple one
I think the issue with the justice system, and why criminals reoffend, is because people think the justice system should be focused only on punishment, I agree criminals shouldn’t enjoy their stay, should should want to get out, but they should also be granted some resources so that they can stay out. You can’t just lock every single bad person up forever, because people ( not everyone but a lot) can change if you actually provide the tools to do it. Besides she was diagnosed with a disorder that would only get worse if she wasn’t monitored so it’s good that she was in an institution for atleast part of her sentence, otherwise she would have only worse.
As someone who was in university with jasmine I will say she changed her name but people are still quite aware of who she is and what she did, I wasn’t very happy to find out that she could be sitting in the same classes as me
SAME. I 100% believe in rehabilitation because I think without the "boyfriend" in the picture, I don't think she would have killed her family. But I also went to the uni she went to at the same time and it's still unsettling to know you could have been sitting in a class with her..
@@NickLynn how was she
i hope people treated her like shit
@@clickersgotcoochiehair loool
Unfortunate her brother wasn't afforded the opportunity to go to university
I’m an older sibling, 13 years old, and I cannot imagine hurting my family, I don’t think I could stomach the idea of hurting my sweet little brother. All I can imagine when I think of Jacob is my brother when he was 8, just cowering under the covers in terror and the thought makes me sick
I have watched every single one of your true crime videos but NOTHING has hit me as hard as 8 year old Jacob trying to defend himself with his toy lightsaber, and against his own beloved sister
Nd the father too
I think her having a clear record is absolutely disgusting! She could be the cookie cutout of a perfect law-abiding person now, but she's still human, I think it's dangerous for her and everyone else! I mean what if she goes through a hard time again and the police who look her up will see a clean record? I would also like ask to if their going to clean his record then if he proves to be a reformed person or is that different because he's an adult... They committed the same crime together, I can understand her weak sentence and how they took the path of hospitals and rehabilitation, but I do not understand the wiping of her criminal record we just have to hope and pray she doesn't reoffend or the new police who know nothing about her will see a different name and a clean record, I think it's so foolish and dangerous tbh
i think it means its closed to the public not the police
@@jadel8764 Not always, theirs been plenty of people who have been given new identities and have reoffended and the police have had to rediscover them, for example Jon Venables, one of the boys who killed James Bulger, and sometimes all it takes is an offender just to change their names, for the police to lose information on them, there's so many cases of that, for example I believe Ted Bundy did it several times; Peter Tobin was living under the alias, Pat McLaughlin when he killed Angelika Kluk, and it was actually the public who told the police after they saw his picture on TV, that his name was actually Peter Tobin, who the police then found out he was a serial sex offender! It's so creepy how someone can change their name and almost vanish from the police, and that's without their help, so with their help you are practically a new person to everyone, even the police and hospitals unless someone worked on your case
@@jadel8764 yeah that definitely sounds right
Just like the kids that tortured and killed little James bulger. I hate it
Are you the same as you were at 12? I'd hope not. 12yo, are impulsive. Their thought process isn't completely developed yet by any means. If she is walking the straight and narrow let it be. If she is messing up I think her record should apply and needs the harshest punishment available. She does deserve a chance to to be a productive citizen. The case is horrifying and heart breaking. But, children do grow up.
I was having the worst day and then saw that ELEANOR, KENDALL, AND DANIELLE ALL POSTED ON THE SAME DAY.
THANK YOU. 😭❤
Omg ikr!!
lmao right?? I opened yt and said “looks like I have plans today!”
love danielle kirsty
YES!!!!
Girl same!! Im watching Eleanor’s first, then Danielle and then Kendall’s! (No reason for that order, I love them all the same!)
I really cannot bring myself to feel anything but contempt for what they did to her family. Especially her little brother. It sad to think his last moments were spent in terror because his sister chose destroy their family. She did not kill him out of love, it was to spite her parents. Maybe she was groomed, but the chat history does make it appear to be her idea.
Probably the case of parents giving the little sibling more attention
@@Unbreakable245it’s still evil asf..
@@kaliewagner8801
She was 12
I would not say a 12 yo can be evil.
@@Unbreakable245 what i meant to say yes the parents did fail her but the crime was still evil
The chat doesn’t show what conversations they had in person. As an older person Jeremy was likely more cautious about writing their plans down in text.
I think Jeremy told a different story in prison because he was afraid for the other inmates to know he killed a child. I think the durst story he told to the police is the truth. How heartbreaking for that boy. I can't imagine how terrified he must've been....
"It was too cruel to leave my little brother alive so I stabbed him in the chest and slit his throat while he pleaded for his life and choken on his own blood" IS a hot take.
It also shows that whatever the fuck was wrong with this girl went deep, like her world view was screwed up.
I hope she doesn't ever find any peace because she really doesn't deserve it. I hope she remembers what she did that night in vivid detail.
Completely agree. The fact she was bragging about it too like mocking him and shit is beyond infuriating. You just wanna beat the shit outta her.
@@a.p.5342 I completely agree with you I never wanted to beat someone up more than her. I know she was twelve and groomed and probably didn't know any better (even though I knew better when I was twelve) but being a part of her parents death and killing and making fun of her dying brother was absolutely unforgivable.
Yep she deserves to be tormented until her last breath. But going on information about her, she probably still doesn’t care about what she did. So if she doesn’t care, thinking about it is not going to upset her.
I'm so glad she's rehabilitated.
As an 18 year old myself, even I feel skeptical about 23 year olds. I just feel like they’re at a much more mature point in their life even though i’m also at the university stage and are in kind of the same stage of life
They are. As a 28 year old, I can confirm that by the age you're 23 that you're nowhere near thinking the way you did at 18. The worlds still opening up to you and its scary, but for 23 year olds they've been navigating it longer and should know better, they absolutely shouldn't be looking at 18 year olds either. They're adults. 18 is still so young to me, but I remember at 18 I thought I was much older. Looking back, I realise how the gap in experience was telling.
Trust me you don’t. Im 21 and looking back at when I was 18 two totally different points in life. Whole different mind set
I’m 21 and I’m way different than I was at 18. You might be “kind of in the same stage of life” but you’re at the beginning of the stage and a 23 year old is at the end of that stage and they have already experienced and gone through the things you’re only starting to. But I can say even at 21, I’m a little skeptical of a 23 year old, it may be because sometimes I have a hard time believing I’m 21 though 😂 time flies.
Literally.. I'm 24 years old and I would never date anyone under 20 years old cause even if it was legal the brain maturity is just not there yet.
at 24 im thinking about my future, buying a house paying mortgage and finding someone i want to spend my life with. when i was 18 i was living w my mom and thought about non of those things. you grow so much in 3-4 years those are the most important times of a persons adult life. i would never date an 18 yr old bc they are literal children to me
The fact that the parents didn't call the cops on that twenty-three-year-old man makes me really sick. And they didn't put their daughter into therapy, she was dating a twenty-three-year-old man! Shr needed some therapy she needed to understand why this was wrong
That’s what I was thinking. Obviously not blaming them but like. First thing I would do is try to press charges against him for statutory rape. Idk if that would’ve changed anything but at least it would’ve gotten police aware beforehand.
@@katandromeda17I absolutely agree... but I was wild as a 12 yr old too, and that would've just made me run away with him. Teens think they know everything
Still can't believe this happened in my home town. My ex's younger sister's friend is the child who found the parents. He was in therapy for a long time..
It gives me chills knowing this happened mere blocks from where I live now.
I heard stories of Jeremy and another guy walking across the football field of their high school to pick up girls at the elementary on the other side.
I hope that poor kid is doing ok now. Can't imagine how traumatizing that must have been.
Holy fcking shit this is horrible. I feel so bad for the child.
Also, wtf, elementary school?!sick fcks
it's my hometown too, i was shocked when i heard about it since stuff like this almost never happens here (to my knowledge at least)
@@hearsae Hello fellow Hatter 🥰
@@hearsae Yeah the last murder around here I've really heard of was Jordan Pede in 2016*
Excuse me, why is a 23 year old hanging with teens? Jasmine definitely looks older, way older than 12 , in the photos. Boy he’s such a catch. Drop out, living in a trailer park, hangin w teenagers.
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While I agree in THIS case (guy has a history of "dating" young teen girls) it's sketch. I want to point out, there is nothing wrong with living in a trailer park, and there is nothing wrong with hanging out with teenagers. I'm in my 20's, I have friends in their teens! And when I was growing up, my closest friends were grown adults (often teachers and similar). The difference is HOW THEY INTERACT! These friendships are about talking about shared interests (books, music, movies, etc) and honestly it's good for kids to have adults outside of their parents that they trust and can go to for advice, especially if their parents aren't good. What's really important is teaching kids the difference between a genuinely friendly adult and a predator.
@@myheartismadeofstars adults hanging out with children outside of a professional setting of sorts (school, beingfamily members, community events, therapist, etc) is pretty weird..
like yeah kids should know adults outside of family but that should be teachers or therapists or something alike.
I’m 23 and I wouldn’t want to be around 14-17 year olds.. The maturity difference is just kinda uncomfortable.. I’d rather be around people my own age so nothing feels odd, plus more likely to have similar interests lol
Like yeah I know some teens but I’m not calling them “friends” or hanging out with them. And I don’t really trust other adults who hang out and have a lot of teenager friends 😬
@@KingOfGaymes Exactly. I'm 26 and ever since I was 17-18 maybe, I couldn't even hang with my own teenage cousins for too long. I love them, but after a couple of hours there's nothing you can talk about, and it turns into babysitting. Can't imagine regularly hanging out with teens that I'm not related to, sounds like a nightmare.
@@bandupzay bro these promo tactics are sad. Let your work speak for itself
I just straight up broke down in tears when she said that this little 8 year old tried to fight them with a Star Wars light saber it just broke my heart how innocent and pure this little boy is 😢❤
Hailey Elizabeth covered this the other day. Always good to hear others cover the same. You get something new in each video
Was just about to comment this
i literally thought this was a reupload because i got confused for a second 😭
@@yeoisa I thought my head was playing games. Had to go look at my watched videos 🤣🤣
@@yeoisa The same thing happened to me. I was confused and then it finally clicked
Did anyone notice how Hailey said Jeremy and Jasmine were introduced to each other and Eleanor said Jeremy approached Jasmine. Do you guys not find that weird??
This story hits hard for me.
I was groomed from 14 to 16 by a 23 year old and it turned sexual. I was also "emo" and so was he. He also had these crazy stories about how important he was and crap like that. When my mom found out, she did the same thing as her parents, I though I was being punished, I hated my mom and told her not to press charges "because I love him, and it was my choice". She never ended up pressing charges. But I am 27 now, and I wish she would have, I pushed the memories down so far that I am just now starting to come to terms with what he did, and I wish he was rotting in jail.
My advice, If anyone says
"age is just a number" in regards to the age difference or " you are mature for your age" RUN. RED FLAG!!
It doesnt matter how immature Jeremy was.. This guy is a piece of crap.
Werewolf lore, in ancient times, was the idea that you changed into a werewolf under the full moon, being ravenous & full of rage. Some believed that a magic belt of wolf skin or a literal wolf skin could be worn, allowing you to change. They attacked people, ate children etc. More modern beliefs maintained the full moon aspect, but it was just harder for them to control themselves, but they suffer from rage problems. Given his age, he was probably aware of the White Wolf gaming, the more famous game was Vampire the Masquerade, but Werewolf the Apocalypse was the twin to that. There were 13 tribes of werewolves, & some of my friends in the 90's adopted some of the mythology for themselves. They didn't think they were actual vampires, they just liked the lore of some of the tribes.
Gonna have to read up on those tribes in the games. Sounds interesting
My thoughts went straight to White Wolf games! I love their games, esp VTM, so I guess this makes sense, that he drew his inspiration from lore similar to theirs
@@PlanningSunsets the vampire ones are called Clans btw, while the werewolf's called Tribes.
I mostly know about Vampire the masquerade! The clans have changed and merged throughout the game versions. The current version, 5th Edition, has the modern edition of the 13 clans. Clans are all a part of different "Sects"- The Camarilla, the Anarchs, and the Sabbat. It's a super cool game, you should really look into that!! They also have video games that are super cool, for both VTM and WTA.
My favorite clan is Toreador (:
The first half sounds like Fenrir Greyback from Harry Potter
Wow y’all are a bunch of geeks 😂😂😂💜
Stories like this, where a child was raised completely normally but still go and murder their parents, are why my husband doesn't want children. It's honestly INSANE that she is out and living her life as a free woman. Canada is wild. 🥴
he doesnt want children because hes afraid theyll kill him? How very Freudian.
The parents also just hadn’t gave a fuck about her when she first started hanging around these grown ass men at 11-12. They can 100% ban her from going out… I think a few more precautions could have been set. So maybe. Just maybe it’s also about being a good parent lol
Um she was literally hanging out with drug addicts and being raped by a grown man by age 12. I wouldn’t say she was “raised completely normally”.
@@homiedjscrewAgreed. I was raised from a very young age that older men pursuing me was wrong. Trying to keep her away from him once she was already infatuated is useless and they didn’t even do a good job of that, if they had laid the groundwork to prevent grooming in the first place this wouldn’t have happened.
@@cheeseduck4485 Exactly! On the chance that they wanted to be parents who are their kid’s friend and let their kids “enjoy” their childhood even though it could harm them instead of placing structure… There seemingly was no limits to when and where the “enjoying” turned into something sinister.
I’ve seen so many ppl cover this story, but it’s always 30mins. You’ve exposed so much more and went deeper in each of their backstories 🖤
He should’ve been behind bars as soon as he started dating a 12 year old 🤢
These idiots murder the people ‘standing in the way’ of their relationship so they can be together. Only to end up in prison for life...not together...nice one! Love your content Eleanor! X
Yes!!! It makes Absolutely NO sense Whatsoever!!
She was a 12 year old with mental health issues who was groomed and raped by a pedophile, who convinced her of all these extreme ideas including that her parents needed to go.
She rightly didn’t get life in prison. He on the other hand should have.
@@Bringon-dw8dxok, ppl can be convinced to do things by grooming...but to slash your 8 year old brothers throat...unforgivable. Being groomed doesn’t make you a brain dead puppet with not thoughts of their own. Imagine even considering for one minute to kill your family. I’m being serious, you right now, think about murdering your own family and slitting your brother’s throat...how wrong does it feel in your head?? If she felt even one crumb of it being ‘ok’ to do, then there’s something wrong deep down. SHE was heard bragging about it afterward as well. The noose is all she’s good for. My god, the thoughts they must have had as they died in such a horrendous way!
@@Bringon-dw8dx it was literally her idea that she pushed. No excuses.
He had the emotional capacity and logic of a 12 year old, it seems, and she WAS 12.
As a victim of grooming I was completely brainwashed. Constantly thinking it was true love, they were the one. But as an adult now it’s just sick and twisted.
I truly hope that every time she closes her eyes to sleep she sees her little brother.
As somebody who was part of the alt community in highschool, it's actually really messed up how prevalent groomers are within them. My friends would be 14 and dating 25 year olds and it'd just be normal. So messed up looking back on it, but never even thought about it back then
Kinda says something about the scene
and the fact that so many of the musicians, especially the men, are known for grooming underage fans and stuff.... i'm alt too and love all of the stuff that comes with it but the sexualization of women and the predation on children in the community is really really bad
I have an 8 year old brother, and the fact that anyone could even think about doing something so horrifying to a boy his age is sickening :(
I love that she changed, shows remorse for what she's done, but I still absolutely despise her. She took the life of three innocent, loving people. The people who raised her and were with her for 12 years of her life. For that, you don't deserve forgiveness.
And the fact that her extended family forgive and love her disgusts me. She stabbed and killed an 8 year old child then laughed about it, how can you forgive someone for that? Shame on her extended family and shame on her. I hope she lives with this guilt for the rest of her undeserving life.
Edit: I also forgot to mention that the fact that her criminal record history was wiped is just disgusting. A real slap in the face to her victims. Her criminal record shouldve never been wiped.
When I heard he tried to defend himself with a lightsaber my heart broke for him. Just the image of a little boy praying that his lightsaber becomes real in that moment makes my heart hurt.
I think it’s great she’s changed, but there wasn’t enough punishment for what she has done. There should have been some time in prison and rehabilitation. Criminal record shouldn’t have been wiped she happily murdered her younger brother and laughed about it. It’s not fair she gets to live her life as normal when her family are dead because of her
Hmmm... I dont believe in people that much. I think she'll murder more people. A 12 year old (one of the morally purest age in terms of mindset) that doesnt feel anything wrong about murdering her family clearly has something going for her..... And its definitely not good.
yes i agree to, how y’all going to clean her record just cause she seems to be doing “better”
Her brother also wanted a life....he probably had a crush on that one cute little girl in his class & wished to someday grow up to be a good man/husband/dad like his father......& Jasmine took that away over selfish and stupid reasons.
i can’t believe jasmine is living freely :/
she showed no remorse, the Canada law is unfair especially for this
She absolutely should've been tried as an adult. That law needs to be changed. If the crime is horrid enough, children should absolutely get tried as adults.
9 year olds? 6 year olds? All children?
@@leahstone9308 if the crime is horrid enough but im sure this person means older children. tweens. 11-17 etc
@@princesschewtoy Who defines horrid enough? You?
@@theimaginator7232 the law..
That is absolutely wrong you all literally have 0 logic and dumb
I'm so glad you covered this case, Jeremy's step brother during that time is my ex and I've got a special interest in this case because of it. He was always telling me there were so many things not mentioned in the media reports and that he wanted to find someone to talk to about it and tell the missing info to.
did he ever do so? was there anything missing here?
@@madsxg he didnt, no, i dont think anyone was interested. If you go through old videos covering the case, you can find his own comments reaching out. I do know that his father was abusive and was one of the abusive partners mentioned. He told me something about a "game" where jeremy would throw a hammer in the air and you had to dodge it. He was fucked up. And my ex was the only one who really knew how fucked up.
I can count on one hand how many cases have shattered my heart so badly that I still think about them all the time and cry. They all involve the death of children. This one made that list.
I have zero, ZERO sympathy for that girl. And justice was absolutely not served. I shrieked when I heard her record was wiped. That is so devastatingly unfair to that poor, sweet little boy that was brutally murdered. The parents, too, of course, but one can imagine that, as loving parents, they would have wanted her to be “rehabilitated” and still have a life eventually. But to murder a helpless, innocent little child...she should be burning in hell right now and for eternity.
I agree
i fully agree, if she was mad at her parents for whatever reason but her brother had nothing to do with the fact her parents wanted to protect her. my heart hurts for him :(
I completely disagree. I did some pretty abhorrent things as a child. I changed. People change.
@@kingexplosionmurderfuckoff9376 surely not as abhorrent as murdering your entire family, including an innocent little boy that was your literal brother? or am i mistaken? are your trivial mistakes as a child truly comparable to murdering loved ones over fleeting and asinine infatuation? i was 12 once too. never had such a sht thought in my head and i had an abusive upbringing. people change, sure - but she should have served far longer of a sentence. shes fucking disgusting.
@@kingexplosionmurderfuckoff9376 I'm glad to hear you’re a better person now. But I find her actions inexcusable. Once someone murders in cold blood like that, there’s no going back imo
Eleanor 🤣
"Also does that not make the age gap even worse... if you think you're 300?!"
I shouldn't laugh because this case is absolutely horrific but that did make me chuckle.
Can you imagine Mark, Who from what we know SEEMED to be a loving father, the last words he heard from anyone were, "Your daughter wanted it this way" Like damn. that really breaks my heart.
Correction: As someone who was on VampireFreaks from 12-19, it was DEFINITELY not for people who thought they were werewolves/vampires. 🤣
I mean I'm sure there were some on there but really it was just MySpace for alternative teens & young adults. With a heavy focus on the industrial scene. They also sold clothes. I went by ChildlikeTendencies. Oh the good ole days. 😂
I was that age in those days. "Alternative" just meant "please please _please_ believe I'm interesting." Actually thinking they're mythological creatures would've at least made the people legitimately interesting, psychologically
@@nthgth what
@@jauume don't worry about it
The fact that jasmines record was wiped and they had no proof that she didn’t kill her brother is fuxkinh sick and I’m disgusted as a 14 YEAR OLD CHILD that we have people like this in our world and I honestly hope they all know how sick they are
Won’t let me edit it but also the fact she was the first one to plan it before it was reciprocated by Jeremy steinky (i dont know how to spell it lmao) but the fact she was the one who wanted to do it before he started to say that they needed more plans on how to do this