Maybe its because he was actually a good natured dude before all this? He was sick of getting bullied, joked on, and being seen as a disease. Some people just take that abuse and live their lives in fear and discomfort. Some people explode in a fit of rage. Some people lose their minds, especially after traumatic events. Not hard to believe if you actually use some empathy. Sometimes I wonder if most people are just undiagnosed sociopaths because this type of thinking isn't that hard to do
@@Anthony-eb8et That’s what’s so profound about Joker. If Joker didn’t kill Murray; us as the audience wouldn’t be satisfied. Even though Murray did nothing wrong. This movie shows me that we all have the power to be evil.
@@dr.scanlan6112 Quinton Tarantino said it was unoriginal because it was a montage of grimey 70s movies, when literally all Tarantino movies are a montage of the 1970s. I think it’s brilliant, and a 70s movie is definitely the mindset Joker would see himself the protagonist of.
the contrast between him straight up murdering Randall with his bare hands and then opening the door for Gary, kissing his head, and letting him go, speaking with such a gentle tone but still keeping the audience in this tension of whether he'll kill Gary too, it's all just so striking
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
In Case Most of you all are Unaware , Arthur suffers from a Mental Disease called Democrat , if you were observant this should have been obvious to you by the people he socializes with and his girlfriend , notice too how BruceWaynes's Father Said He will have him Arrested if he continues Protesting at his Estate Wayne Manor , he Said Clearly Stay Away you InsaneDemocrat
I didn’t notice until now that he only smiles when he sees Gary. And the way he looks at Randall…he knew he was going to kill him the moment they came into his apartment. Perfect.
I don’t think he truly decided until Randall shows that is visit was self serving. When he first shows him some sort of kindness by saying he came after hearing Arthur’s mother died he nearly earned another chance. The way Arthur thanks him for revealing his true motive for the visit was sounds like Arthur is relieved because now it all makes sense again and he can go back to his original plan of killing him.
@@Spanner249 Randall shows up: decent conversation, Arthur mostly relaxed Randall talks about speaking to the cops: Arthur smells his bad intentons and readies the scissors just in case Randall says "you're my boy", the exact same manipulative line he said at the beginning of the movie before lying to their boss and getting him fired: Arthur decides to kill him then and there
I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
In Case Most of you all are Unaware , Arthur suffers from a Mental Disease called Democrat , if you were observant this should have been obvious to you by the people he socializes with and his girlfriend , notice too how BruceWaynes's Father Said He will have him Arrested if he continues Protesting at his Estate Wayne Manor , he Said Clearly Stay Away you InsaneDemocrat
when Arthur Said he Stopped taking his meds it ReMinded Me of when the HAL 9000 Said to Dave he Stopped taking his Software Patches Downloads and Dave's reaction expression the Same
I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
He can’t control his laugh.. he has PBA it’s a condition that causes you to laugh uncontrollably.. but he did say “I like killing, killing is funny to me that’s why i do it”
@@Krejii05 the movie was amazing it even gave him an origin story I wish it will be continued with Bruce Wayne as Batman because of how his parents died at the end it would only make sense
one thing Arthur is nice to Gary unlike JenniferA.ThatB. she's mean to Gary whenever she Sees him Don't know if she just Don't like aussies everybody loves 2:45 or what , JenniferA. Thinks she's some CuteB.
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
In Case Most of you all are Unaware , Arthur suffers from a Mental Disease called Democrat , if you were observant this should have been obvious to you by the people he socializes with and his girlfriend , notice too how BruceWaynes's Father Said He will have him Arrested if he continues Protesting at his Estate Wayne Manor , he Said Clearly Stay Away you InsaneDemocrat
I did not notice this at first. Makes his "snapping" at the big guy less random. He didn't like him and knew why he came there. I dont know what was the reason, but it was NOT to cheer him up..
@@ruskyhusky69I think they keep the reason pretty discrete but I’m confident he killed him because: 1. Randall gave him the gun so he could get him fired 2. Randall probably wanted to tell the police about Arthur to get them off his back
yes so understandable. Murdering your friend for giving you a gun to defend youself and coming to hang out with you and make you feel better after hearing your mother died. Aight
@@theantianimeassociation7574 I in no way condone what he did, but you can clearly see that the main purpose of Randall visiting him was just to make him talk to the cops so they stop bothering the other comedians at the club, and joker realizing this is what sets him off, or that is how I see it
"don't look... Just go." I don't know why but this part really spoke to me. Feels like Arthur is being a real good friend to Garry by protecting him from what he did and just getting him out of there as quick as possible.
That you know randdal is the one and only care to joker ? Do you remember randal protect joker by give a gun ? Because randal care to joker, but joker just kill randal with biggest madness. You know joker just leave gary go away, do you know why? Because gary is good person. I thing every bad man can not do some shit to person like gary. But at the last time joker just kill randal, and we know randal doing something sweet to joker when he give gun for joker. Joker is frustation man, he dont know where is his family he dont have society and its enough to make someone crazy
@@diiiaaa557nah either u didn’t watch movie, or for some reason you miss heavy details of Randy talkin to and behind Arthur back, Randal was an ass and snake, he was bein no better than his coworkers and boss, Randal got Arthur fired, ratted him out, he deserved that all the way Arthur made the right call putting him in his place
@@lickenhuntsman5338I don’t think you can even compare them because it’s a good movie but he’s barely even joker it’s a very different take on the character
when Arthur Said he Stopped taking his meds it ReMinded Me of when the HAL 9000 Said to Dave he Stopped taking his Software Patches Downloads and Dave's reaction expression the Same
This scene is a nod to Joker in he comics. In the comics Joker doesn't hurt "little people". He always had a soft spot for them because people made fun of them. He had a little person side kick for a while and thats why he uses a lot of little people as his most loyal minions
one thing Arthur is nice to Gary unlike JenniferA.ThatB. she's mean to Gary whenever she Sees him Don't know if she just Don't like aussies everybody loves 2:45 or what , JenniferA. Thinks she's some CuteB.
I felt so bad for the little guy he was scared to death already then had to turn around and ask the person who just murdered someone right I front of him to let him go after telling him he could.
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
In Case Most of you all are Unaware , Arthur suffers from a Mental Disease called Democrat , if you were observant this should have been obvious to you by the people he socializes with and his girlfriend , notice too how BruceWaynes's Father Said He will have him Arrested if he continues Protesting at his Estate Wayne Manor , he Said Clearly Stay Away you InsaneDemocrat
Yeah, I don’t understand how people can laugh at this? He is literally crying in fear asking to leave because he can’t reach. It’s dark and very very sad. People laugh? Wtf!
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
In Case Most of you all are Unaware , Arthur suffers from a Mental Disease called Democrat , if you were observant this should have been obvious to you by the people he socializes with and his girlfriend , notice too how BruceWaynes's Father Said He will have him Arrested if he continues Protesting at his Estate Wayne Manor , he Said Clearly Stay Away you InsaneDemocrat
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
That moment in the theater was so powerful, disturbing and hilarious at the same time. "The suspect was a regular sized person" gets me every damn time
Shows just how much a simple act of kindness can go a long way. Even though Arthur had unfortunately been a victim of such cruelty in his life, he at least got some recognition and kindness from Gary and it made him feel a bit better about himself. Unfortunately though the negativity in his life was too overwhelming. Not saying that it justified Arthur's actions though but it shows why we need to focus more on helping other people and less on making them want to hate the world around them.
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
In Case Most of you all are Unaware , Arthur suffers from a Mental Disease called Democrat , if you were observant this should have been obvious to you by the people he socializes with and his girlfriend , notice too how BruceWaynes's Father Said He will have him Arrested if he continues Protesting at his Estate Wayne Manor , he Said Clearly Stay Away you InsaneDemocrat
when Arthur Said he Stopped taking his meds it ReMinded Me of when the HAL 9000 Said to Dave he Stopped taking his Software Patches Downloads and Dave's reaction expression the Same
People talk about how it was cruel of him to jumpscare Gary like that but I genuinely think he did it to distract Gary from looking at a dead body, basically telling him to get the hell out of there as soon as possible.
The part where Gary couldn’t reach the lock was horrible to me. Through no fault of his own, his own disability had the potential to kill him. Thankfully Arthur had patience
He was NEVER going to kill gary. You couldn't follow the plot of how much of a traitorous a$$hole randall was if you don't understand why he was killed and gary wasn't
If you’ve ever been in a truly intense, life changing and terrifying situation like this, you can understand the fear he’s feeling. Very well acted. Even the kindness that he shows is terrifying as you don’t know if he’s just going to snap again at any moment.
During my youth, I associated with some unsavoury types. Believed that it made me “more of a man” to hang out with individuals older than myself. Had a lot of people who taught me well and some not as well. I had the unfortunate experience of seeing one person fly off the handle. The way it looks it movies, not as cool as it is in person. Plagued with constant anxiety and paranoia to this day. Even though I know he’s long gone. Not entirely the same situation but scarring nonetheless. Situations like that humble you and make you realise the man you are and not the one you’re trying to be.
I've certainly been I situations where I'm fully convinced I'm about to die by someone else's hand from random street thugs to the infamous armed robbery Let me tell you, that is fear like you couldn't even imagine. It feels as though your entire life has collapsed around you, and you're standing over a void ready to swallow you whole I've also been I Arthur's position in this scene, though I've never killed anyone beyond I my imagination. But that alone is both terrifying and bizarrely liberating. To know that through one random act of extreme violence can upend your entire life through something as simple as a decision and a command to the muscles
Not only was Gary the only one who was ever nice to Arthur but Arthur acknowledged that Gary was also heavily bullied too, so he sympathized with Gary a lot.
Arthur is the joker and vice versa…in the second you realize that Arthur killed these people…yes he wanted to blame it on a persona to get away but Arthur and the joker are not separate…in the sequel we see that he has lost his agency…he always had a moral compass and even this kill was moral…in prison people want him to just act like a psycho killer 24/7 but he is still the Arthur with morals. I think people saw what they wanted to see in the first one instead of what was actually there and the second continued the story of what actually happened and not what many fans thought happened leading to a disconnect for those that went in with preconceived notions. I did a review on my channel
I don't know how often this kind of thing happens, but I think it's crazy that there are people who escaped the wrath of someone because they were simply nice to them.
NO it's not. It's the innocent getting nothing and the assholes getting what they deserved. Simple as that. NONE of the violence in this movie was random.
@emperador_ccru Please don't, I promise you it's better to watch it on a private streaming service than to pay actual money. If you are expecting a story like the first movie it isn't anything like that, especially with the ending. Kinda makes everything we saw pointless. But if you want to see it go ahead but just keep in mind to have your expectations low.
@@Bruce_wayne69_edits I enjoyed all the performances and I wouldn’t have minded if this was just a bland, boring film. (Which it is that too). But it feels like an assault on the Arthur Fleck character and really spits in the face of the story told in part 1. Very disappointing. My theater was just silent at the end
@KingComodus I 100% agree with you they recently made a LGBT promotional agahata show and no one is talking about it , if it was dc that has shown that they would call dc gay they always forgive big mistakes of marvel and start roasting dc on very small things like roasting zack snyder movies just because he made batman kill and put a dark tone which match to situation
@@Nypex0 one could delete @ if they made a mistake or wanted to change what they was saying and held backspace down. do you think.. "then why did you watch it?"... was a reply to the original comment ? that's my only reason i don't think it is, the original comment is 3 week's old, anything come of been said in that time.......skip time someone reply's and they feel like they should delete the comment and with meteor-melee not using @ there's no proof to who it was meant for.... that's what i was getting at adhro could not know for a fact who meteor was replying to, yet he calls him illiterate some people are and for some English is not their first language
I remember watching this in the movie theater and when Gary couldn't get out I kept thinking please don't kill him....when he let him go I felt so much relief 😅. Treat others with respect and humility...might save your life
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
MIGHT is a key word. I met a paranoid schizophrenic on an EMS call. I was kind, understanding, empathetic and damnit…downright cool to him. I didn’t even tell him to back off when he came to my work station to tell me “thank you”, again and again …. & AGAIN. My coworkers began to fear for my safety, but knowing his dx I didn’t want to pis$ him off. He showed up on my porch & asked me to be the MAID OF HONOR @ his wedding! I didn’t know him or his “fiancé” enough to attend the wedding let alone stand up in it. I told him I had to work that day and thanked him for considering me gave him a hug and congratulated him. THEN, he smiled & said the deadly words… Yeah my life is going well for me now. I stopped taking my medicine and I’m doing much better. I called the police after he left. They KNEW me thru EMS & went above & beyond to keep an eye on me. (Watching my house. Parking down the street, etc) Still, even they couldn’t do anything legally until he had threatened or tried to harm me. He then started showing up everywhere I was. He went to my work supervisor eyes wide & anxious. He said I was secretly putting methamphetamines in his urine while he was sleeping so he would fail drug tests. He said I was stalking him and I had this special power to see through his walls and command him to do certain things that he wasn’t responsible for. He said I was trying to kill him secretly. He said he was keeping an eye on me because he would do anything to stop me from killing him if I tried to. Which was still not a threat he was just saying he would defend himself if I tried to murder him. Once again police could do nothing because he hadn’t directly threatened me. They too were fearful if I got a restraining order it would just be a piece of paper that would mean nothing to him. It would infuriate him & THEN he may snap. My fear as well. Long story short he got married and tried to kill his wife on their honeymoon. Beat her head & face in w his bare fists. I’m not sure if she is alive or even a functional adult anymore. He was committed to a state hospital… Not a prison. He belongs in a state hospital for life…not a prison. I don’t know when or if he will ever get out. I don’t know if he is even alive today. I just hope if he ever does get out…he doesn’t remember the girl “that was nice to him.”
@@natalierozean5989 Man... that's quite an experience. I mean, if the other person has some kind of psychological problem then being kind may not really have an effect as their perception of reality is completely distorted. At least here Arthur was still somewhat reasonable.
This makes me want to become more good to anyone like anyone. You never know if someone are having a bad day or what mental state they are in, a simple good manner will be good to them and anyone... Like hello how are you and never treated them bad like others did to them. Like if i was joker on this scene, I won’t kill the little guy either because he was good to me when others was disrespected me...
one thing Arthur is nice to Gary unlike JenniferA.ThatB. she's mean to Gary whenever she Sees him Don't know if she just Don't like aussies everybody loves 2:45 or what , JenniferA. Thinks she's some CuteB.
If think people pleasing others in detail to judge on that is a stretch. I notice people like John Wick no judgement on his actions too the audiance is just respected blowing heads off every turn. Its amusing compliment and cool. And arthur case little judgements is just part of Arthur irritation why he hits Randell harder in frustration of how he feels. The comparison is striking.
This scene was when phoenix secured greatest Joker of all time to me. From the legendary and hysterical line "my mom died I'm celebrating" to the dwarf struggling to reach the lock lmaooo, it was pure gold.
There's reason in all of this. He is not crazed or delusional. He has a solid set of logic. He figures, I'm going to die tonight, I might as well take out this guy I really dislike. But spares Gary because- he's not a crazed maniac. He's a regular person, trying his best to live with the cards he's been dealt. Gary is a decent person, Gary treats people well, he is targeting those he believes have caused his unfair suffering. "My mom died, I'm celebrating" might sound strange to us. But for him, he knows his mother was a terrible person. Would you not celebrate the death of someone who tormented you to the point of developing trauma? When people still have a logic system, you cannot call them crazy. They are within their minds, just under different principles than we are.
I consider this movie a litmus test for people who are capable of understanding the full consequences of parental abuse/neglect of the nature shown in this movie. It's an authentic portrayal of how hard it is to integrate and succeed in society when you have a parent like this and no other support system to show you the truth of things and give you the resources you need.
To me this is one of the most terrifying scenes I have ever seen in the movies. When the little guy realized he could not reach the chain lock I almost died.
Nah real ones know he was gonna survive. Little dude did him no wrong the whole movie, and Arthur had nothing to lose by letting him go. Arthur wasn't a sadistic person, dude didn't even want to shoot the kids on the train. You must not know much about people and/or not watch much horror films if you think this was terrifying.
@@Anthony-eb8et Well, the other dude whom he whacked did not do any harm to Arthur either. Heck, those two were on a friendly visit with a bottle of wine and all. Arthur is a live grenade. Unpredictable, impulsive, hallucinating. Deprived of his medications. Played so well, that, unlike many other movies, here I did not expect what was coming in many situations.
@@vicinvesta8349 He did actually. He gave him the gun knowing how unstable he was and expecting to be "paid back". He didn't back Arthur when Arthur was getting fired for having the gun, and could have helped Arthur keep his job which he desperately needed. When he was expecting everything to be cool because he paid him a visit to his place giving him a gift of a bottle of wine lol. Like wut? Lol Either "his friend" Randall is incredibly stupid... or... he wanted him fired and wanted to take advantage of his instability. I'd take a bet on the combination on both
@@vicinvesta8349 Furthermore, I suggest you watch crime movies and shows. Or at least pay attention lol. Maybe it will save your life one day, monsters are out there worse than him, only because they were him at one point. Only thing scary about Arthur is that there are plenty of people just like him living in the background while you live your normal everyday life. Someday one of them is gonna have a really bad day. Good luck to you on that. Welcome to the world
Randall is what I like to call a fake friend. He never supports or backs up Arthur in the film. He only PRETENDS to care for him. All he wanted to do in this scene was hear Arthurs side of the story, so that he can go and tell the cops and say that Arthur killed the subway people, and he makes himself look innocent. A great example is when he accuses him of having a gun, even though Randall was the one who gave him it. Even calling him, "You're my boy." Is a way of showing that he wants Arthur to still like him, so that he can continue using him, either as a scapegoat, or for just shits or giggles. For those who have, or still are suffering from fake friends, I can relate, because I had fake friends. Feel free to share your thoughts and feelings below 👇
Yep lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂 randall gave author the gun, even damn near forcing him to take it and lied and told their boss that author tried to buy it off him😂, he was gonna go and tell the cops that he killed the subway people😂, he wanted to know what author had said lmfao😂.....then he said "you're my boy" lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
when Arthur Said he Stopped taking his meds it ReMinded Me of when the HAL 9000 Said to Dave he Stopped taking his Software Patches Downloads and Dave's reaction expression the Same
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
In Case Most of you all are Unaware , Arthur suffers from a Mental Disease called Democrat , if you were observant this should have been obvious to you by the people he socializes with and his girlfriend , notice too how BruceWaynes's Father Said He will have him Arrested if he continues Protesting at his Estate Wayne Manor , he Said Clearly Stay Away you InsaneDemocrat
You can see who Arthur loves in this scene. After he opened the door, he doesn't look too happy seeing Randall's face but when he hears Gary's voice, his face is graced with a smile.
Everyone is talking about “you were the only one that was ever nice to me” but the part where he randomly jump scares Gary just killed me. Like, there’s no reason for it, let’s just have a little joke. Completely Joker.
2:55 Horrifying moment, both because it takes him a second to clock WHY Gary is scared shitless, but also because there is a sense of him enjoying it: he likes being feared
Nobody ever says anything bad/critical to somebody who lost a just parent. You can get away with murder lol The only people immune are other who lost their parent(s) My dad died unexpectedly. After a week when I returned to work all my friends (with living parents) were really nice, awkward and palpably uncomfortable. Then my friend Fraser (who had lost his mum year back) saw me. He let out a massive shit eating grin, widened his arms in celebration and said loudly: “ Jimmy! Welcome to “The Dead Parents society”” I paused for a second and then laughed harder that I did since he died. It felt so great that he wasn’t treating me differently than he did before my dad died. My advice to others who have a friend that loses a loved one…… Don’t change the way you treat them, it just reminds them how different their life is now.
Talking to people that just lost someone is not easy though. If you talk to them you don't want to say anything that is inappropriate. And I believe this fear is warranted, because people that lost someone are easier irritated because they are experiencing heavy feelings. I think you would agree with me that you don't joke with them for a while because they are just not in the mood. Your friend met you with a joke but I think it worked because it was already a week after the death. If you lost your dad they same day you wouldn't have laughed because you were in a completely different mood. Getting back to normal mode is dance of people trying out small things and seeing how you react. And at some point you are back to "normal". Or maybe you are the one to initiate humor to show that you are ok with it.
I understand what you mean, but when I first read your story and heard that, I was shocked and I thought you would have ended the friendship but you instead found it funny. 🤔
When someone is upset, I normally try to be very friendly and upbeat with them. I feel like that some people do well when you acknowledge their pain, and some people, like me, just want to be reminded of the world's joys, and that there are people who genuinely love and like you.
It is the subtlety of things that make this scene/movie so good. Arthur's face after looking through the peep hole and seeing Randall is pure disgust when he opens the door. Then he sees Gary and smiles and invites them in. It's brief, but exactly why it is so perfectly done especially with the camera moving down and showing Gary from Arthur's viewpoint. He then slowly builds to the fact he's going to kill Randall and marks the wall with the cigarette. And when you're not sure if Arthur will actually let Gary go, that brief moment he recloses the door after unlatching the chain adds so much to the feeling of being trapped and inevitable death for Gary...only to be kissed on the head and released from what everyone felt was certain death.
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“Gary, you were the only one that was nice to me”
True quiet kid moment
Quiet?
@@DaFartMaker spell I cannot 👽
Quiet
Edgelord*
Don’t come to school tomorrow
I love how he just nonchalantly says “my mom died. I’m celebrating”
Mhm yeah right!
@Bron Bron ...
they probably took it as some edgy expression , jokes on them he actually meant it
@@sup_a nun or your damn business lol
@Bron Bron what the f*** is wrong with you
The fact that Arthur has a moral compass is mind blowing. Even if it’s corrupt as hell, he still doesn’t hate people who were kind to him.
Maybe its because he was actually a good natured dude before all this? He was sick of getting bullied, joked on, and being seen as a disease. Some people just take that abuse and live their lives in fear and discomfort. Some people explode in a fit of rage. Some people lose their minds, especially after traumatic events. Not hard to believe if you actually use some empathy.
Sometimes I wonder if most people are just undiagnosed sociopaths because this type of thinking isn't that hard to do
@@Anthony-eb8et That’s what’s so profound about Joker. If Joker didn’t kill Murray; us as the audience wouldn’t be satisfied. Even though Murray did nothing wrong.
This movie shows me that we all have the power to be evil.
This movie is an obvious (and brilliant) homage to two Scorcese masterpieces, "The King of Comedy" and "Taxi Driver".
@@dr.scanlan6112 Quinton Tarantino said it was unoriginal because it was a montage of grimey 70s movies, when literally all Tarantino movies are a montage of the 1970s.
I think it’s brilliant, and a 70s movie is definitely the mindset Joker would see himself the protagonist of.
Corrupt? Where
the contrast between him straight up murdering Randall with his bare hands and then opening the door for Gary, kissing his head, and letting him go, speaking with such a gentle tone but still keeping the audience in this tension of whether he'll kill Gary too, it's all just so striking
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
In Case Most of you all are Unaware , Arthur suffers from a Mental Disease called Democrat , if you were observant this should have been obvious to you by the people he socializes with and his girlfriend , notice too how BruceWaynes's Father Said He will have him Arrested if he continues Protesting at his Estate Wayne Manor , he Said Clearly Stay Away you InsaneDemocrat
I like how he looked mad at Randall but smiled at Gary letting him in
yeah i like how he kissed him on the forehead before letting him leave like he's his mother 🤣🤣🤣🤣
for real this scene was so tense in the cinema
I didn’t notice until now that he only smiles when he sees Gary. And the way he looks at Randall…he knew he was going to kill him the moment they came into his apartment. Perfect.
I don’t think he truly decided until Randall shows that is visit was self serving. When he first shows him some sort of kindness by saying he came after hearing Arthur’s mother died he nearly earned another chance. The way Arthur thanks him for revealing his true motive for the visit was sounds like Arthur is relieved because now it all makes sense again and he can go back to his original plan of killing him.
@@Spanner249 Randall shows up: decent conversation, Arthur mostly relaxed
Randall talks about speaking to the cops: Arthur smells his bad intentons and readies the scissors just in case
Randall says "you're my boy", the exact same manipulative line he said at the beginning of the movie before lying to their boss and getting him fired: Arthur decides to kill him then and there
The look of are you kidding me as he slowly realizes he's gonna have to ask Arthur to open the door gets me every time lmao.
ikr, i thought mf was dead at that point
Joker would have said.
"Oh where are my manners."
I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
In Case Most of you all are Unaware , Arthur suffers from a Mental Disease called Democrat , if you were observant this should have been obvious to you by the people he socializes with and his girlfriend , notice too how BruceWaynes's Father Said He will have him Arrested if he continues Protesting at his Estate Wayne Manor , he Said Clearly Stay Away you InsaneDemocrat
when Arthur Said he Stopped taking his meds it ReMinded Me of when the HAL 9000 Said to Dave he Stopped taking his Software Patches Downloads and Dave's reaction expression the Same
"I stopped taking my medication"
This, my sweet humans out there, is the moment you should leave.
No,... even if he asked before they walked in joker would have just lied to get them in the trap.
In too deep is in too deep.
normal pills
CGC
@@comradekenobi6908 dream moment XD
I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
The whole theater laughed when Gary couldn't open the door and had to ask Arthur to. Just for being so fucked up
He can’t control his laugh.. he has PBA it’s a condition that causes you to laugh uncontrollably.. but he did say “I like killing, killing is funny to me that’s why i do it”
@@dismal982 not joker the theater
@@SoldierOfLoveForNow OHHH!! 😭
@@dismal982 yeahhh lol 😂😭😂
The same thing happened in my theater its so fucked
Him being nice to gary makes his acts feel way more realistic.
Yea because Gary was the only nice one
@@tobeymagiure27 yeah, thats why i love this scene so much.
@@Krejii05 the movie was amazing it even gave him an origin story I wish it will be continued with Bruce Wayne as Batman because of how his parents died at the end it would only make sense
@@tobeymagiure27 thatd be really corny we dont need to turn this into a joker vs batman movie itd ruin the whole thing
@@m3cha131 I said. It should of continued the movie should not be about Batman at all but I want to see another movie where they face off
“You were the only one who was ever nice to me” … gets me every time
*only one
one thing Arthur is nice to Gary unlike JenniferA.ThatB. she's mean to Gary whenever she Sees him Don't know if she just Don't like aussies everybody loves 2:45 or what , JenniferA. Thinks she's some CuteB.
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
In Case Most of you all are Unaware , Arthur suffers from a Mental Disease called Democrat , if you were observant this should have been obvious to you by the people he socializes with and his girlfriend , notice too how BruceWaynes's Father Said He will have him Arrested if he continues Protesting at his Estate Wayne Manor , he Said Clearly Stay Away you InsaneDemocrat
Sociopaths say such things to compensate their wrongdoings, in this case, the act of murder.
This is such an underrated scene. It's both funny and disturbing at the same time. It's everything the Joker should be.
Would you fuckers stop calling everything on Yourtube underrated?
@@Glitchfaction Yeah honestly, I gotta agree. Your comment's really underrated bro.
@@Glitchfaction underrated lmao
@II Oscar II i dont know if it was supossed to be a joke or not but i laughed
Whats the funny part
I feel so bad for Gary he just didn't deserve to be traumatized like that
He could have waited another day honestly
Agreed
Engineer gaming
1:56 the way he yells “ARTHER NO!” just hits me every time
I almost believe Arthur was contemplating the situation first, seeing the way he looked at Gary for a moment before he lashed out at Randall.
Love how he gave a serious look when he saw Randall but eventually smiled when he saw Gary
I did not notice this at first. Makes his "snapping" at the big guy less random. He didn't like him and knew why he came there. I dont know what was the reason, but it was NOT to cheer him up..
@@ruskyhusky69I think they keep the reason pretty discrete but I’m confident he killed him because:
1. Randall gave him the gun so he could get him fired
2. Randall probably wanted to tell the police about Arthur to get them off his back
@fush0690 There's nothing discreet about it, that's obviously the plot. And why Arthur was pissed at him.
Him letting Gary go is so pivotal in this film. It makes Arthur's character understandable, likable and overall makes his reasoning believable.
Likable by no means. Why would you like this?
@Q Daddy if that was the case he would've just killed Gary too
@Q Daddy He was relatable to me when he said "You were nice to me."
yes so understandable. Murdering your friend for giving you a gun to defend youself and coming to hang out with you and make you feel better after hearing your mother died. Aight
@@theantianimeassociation7574 I in no way condone what he did, but you can clearly see that the main purpose of Randall visiting him was just to make him talk to the cops so they stop bothering the other comedians at the club, and joker realizing this is what sets him off, or that is how I see it
"Gary... you were the only one that was nice to me"
*kisses on head*
"Get out of here"
Being nice really pays off 😇
@@traintrack3761 it does
can u give me the time stamp
@@traintrack3761 yea, didnt get his head slammed into a wall 18 times
@@user-cp5yu1lc3e 3:55
Love how Arthur isn't smiling when he opens the door, until he looks down to see Gary
Yesss lol, god I love him
Gary was his only friend
He killed him so randomly and his friend in back screaming and crying Jesus this is Dark 😭
@Jayden Guerrero In my opinion he saw it coming
@Jayden Guerrero it’s lose*
@Jayden Guerrero and he kept picking on his friend
He had it coming tbh given the circumstances
Haven't seen the movie but fuck Randall.
"don't look... Just go."
I don't know why but this part really spoke to me. Feels like Arthur is being a real good friend to Garry by protecting him from what he did and just getting him out of there as quick as possible.
I just thought the same thing for the first time after watching this scene again.
That you know randdal is the one and only care to joker ? Do you remember randal protect joker by give a gun ? Because randal care to joker, but joker just kill randal with biggest madness. You know joker just leave gary go away, do you know why? Because gary is good person. I thing every bad man can not do some shit to person like gary. But at the last time joker just kill randal, and we know randal doing something sweet to joker when he give gun for joker. Joker is frustation man, he dont know where is his family he dont have society and its enough to make someone crazy
@@diiiaaa557nah either u didn’t watch movie, or for some reason you miss heavy details of Randy talkin to and behind Arthur back, Randal was an ass and snake, he was bein no better than his coworkers and boss, Randal got Arthur fired, ratted him out, he deserved that all the way Arthur made the right call putting him in his place
Murdering him is a lil extreme dont ya think lol@@cloudy5115
For some reason, him saying that scared me a bit more
Arthur smiled as soon as he saw Gary, whereas he was stone-faced when he saw Randall. I love that detail.
you can tell he geniunally likes gary
When he opens the door...
Randall: 😠
Gary: 😊
Joker 2019 is better than The Dark Knight trilogy and MCU (maybe except Punisher/ Daredevil)
@@lickenhuntsman5338I don’t think you can even compare them because it’s a good movie but he’s barely even joker it’s a very different take on the character
@@lickenhuntsman5338and it’s nothing like a superhero movie
Thats why you will never excel at anything. Having opinions on something you can never control. And being a incel redditor @BaneStopMotion
@lickenhuntsman5338 I think that's taking a step a little too far. The Marvel movies are great
I just love that line 'my mom died. I'm celebrating.' Not for the line itself but how blunt he was in saying it
when Arthur Said he Stopped taking his meds it ReMinded Me of when the HAL 9000 Said to Dave he Stopped taking his Software Patches Downloads and Dave's reaction expression the Same
Yeah there are a few dark lines, but they are said in such a way that it comes off as funny. It's pretty obvious, but it fits Joker's character well
This scene is a nod to Joker in he comics. In the comics Joker doesn't hurt "little people". He always had a soft spot for them because people made fun of them. He had a little person side kick for a while and thats why he uses a lot of little people as his most loyal minions
Gaggy.
A great sequel would be if Gary goes homeless/alcoholic and Joker finds him and team up.
@@ruffhausmalinoisGary wouldn’t
@@JavierEscuella1911 Hey now you don't speak for gary!
Blud just say midget it’s not a slur
If this teaches anyone anything it shows how good it is to be nice to everyone.
Especially the quiet kids who sit by themselves.
That was my takeaway.
Ye
Wannabe , Emmawatson wallflower
one thing Arthur is nice to Gary unlike JenniferA.ThatB. she's mean to Gary whenever she Sees him Don't know if she just Don't like aussies everybody loves 2:45 or what , JenniferA. Thinks she's some CuteB.
I felt so bad for the little guy he was scared to death already then had to turn around and ask the person who just murdered someone right I front of him to let him go after telling him he could.
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
J.Doe's , shoulda never let him Go he woulda been Great with potatoes and carrots dumplings
In Case Most of you all are Unaware , Arthur suffers from a Mental Disease called Democrat , if you were observant this should have been obvious to you by the people he socializes with and his girlfriend , notice too how BruceWaynes's Father Said He will have him Arrested if he continues Protesting at his Estate Wayne Manor , he Said Clearly Stay Away you InsaneDemocrat
Yeah, I don’t understand how people can laugh at this? He is literally crying in fear asking to leave because he can’t reach. It’s dark and very very sad.
People laugh? Wtf!
@@HawaiianCrow Dark Humor
"You're the only that ever nice to me." ☹
And that's why he didn't kill him. There's always that one person or people that will show compassion to someone who's down
☹️
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
In Case Most of you all are Unaware , Arthur suffers from a Mental Disease called Democrat , if you were observant this should have been obvious to you by the people he socializes with and his girlfriend , notice too how BruceWaynes's Father Said He will have him Arrested if he continues Protesting at his Estate Wayne Manor , he Said Clearly Stay Away you InsaneDemocrat
“Fuhhhkin crazy ennit meh on the Telly “ 😂😂😂
I laughed so hard and replayed that shit so many times after seeing it lmfao
Best line from the scene 😂😂
LMAO
In the cinema in England that I saw Joker, everyone absolutely pissed themselves laughing at this line.
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
That moment in the theater was so powerful, disturbing and hilarious at the same time. "The suspect was a regular sized person" gets me every damn time
I think that's the line that dooms him. Feels like he might have had a chance if he wasn't so insulting to the little guy.
Shows just how much a simple act of kindness can go a long way. Even though Arthur had unfortunately been a victim of such cruelty in his life, he at least got some recognition and kindness from Gary and it made him feel a bit better about himself. Unfortunately though the negativity in his life was too overwhelming. Not saying that it justified Arthur's actions though but it shows why we need to focus more on helping other people and less on making them want to hate the world around them.
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
In Case Most of you all are Unaware , Arthur suffers from a Mental Disease called Democrat , if you were observant this should have been obvious to you by the people he socializes with and his girlfriend , notice too how BruceWaynes's Father Said He will have him Arrested if he continues Protesting at his Estate Wayne Manor , he Said Clearly Stay Away you InsaneDemocrat
when Arthur Said he Stopped taking his meds it ReMinded Me of when the HAL 9000 Said to Dave he Stopped taking his Software Patches Downloads and Dave's reaction expression the Same
If you're cruel to someone, then you don't deserve any form of kindness
“But you didn’t have to cut me off.”
Now you’re just somebody that I used to knowwww
“Make out like it never happened and that we were nothing”
“And I don’t even need your love”
LMFAOOOO i saw this comment before the video… came back & im dying😭😭😂
“But you treat me like a stranger and that feels so rough”
People talk about how it was cruel of him to jumpscare Gary like that but I genuinely think he did it to distract Gary from looking at a dead body, basically telling him to get the hell out of there as soon as possible.
It was hilarious. I had to play it back 20 times.
Never thought of that. Good analysis
@@bloodieddeadman6.1.65 nah fr
good catch
Damn dude. I never even thought of that. I bet you're right.
much respect to all those who found a way to do this scene.
What?
@@zoxyy.1x It was just a really violent, well constructed scene. Also, my comment was typed out terribly.
@@mckennaj75 oh ok
You are cool :D
Kill their douchey excoworker??
I love the detail of Arthur not looking happy opening the door until he notices Gary.
The part where Gary couldn’t reach the lock was horrible to me. Through no fault of his own, his own disability had the potential to kill him. Thankfully Arthur had patience
And he only opened the door to him, and he didn't try to kill him
I just realized he locks the door immediately when he let's them in knowing Gary won't be able to get out while he kills randall.
@@oxxen_uta2282I doubt he ever planned on killing Gary.
@@SusanaCanales1Why would he? Gary was the only person who was ever nice to Arthur
He was NEVER going to kill gary. You couldn't follow the plot of how much of a traitorous a$$hole randall was if you don't understand why he was killed and gary wasn't
Now you’re just somebody that I used to know
Yo 💀 I did not notice that until now lmfaooooo
Hahah omg yes!!
Lol funny as fuck
lmaooo
Lol
The pure rage that was depicted in this scene is incredible. How he slams his head that extra few times really sold it
Randall was already dead from the shots to the throat and eye
If you’ve ever been in a truly intense, life changing and terrifying situation like this, you can understand the fear he’s feeling. Very well acted. Even the kindness that he shows is terrifying as you don’t know if he’s just going to snap again at any moment.
What kind of brutal pyscos are you hanging around with?
During my youth, I associated with some unsavoury types. Believed that it made me “more of a man” to hang out with individuals older than myself. Had a lot of people who taught me well and some not as well. I had the unfortunate experience of seeing one person fly off the handle. The way it looks it movies, not as cool as it is in person. Plagued with constant anxiety and paranoia to this day. Even though I know he’s long gone. Not entirely the same situation but scarring nonetheless. Situations like that humble you and make you realise the man you are and not the one you’re trying to be.
@@londonlad3739that part
I've certainly been I situations where I'm fully convinced I'm about to die by someone else's hand from random street thugs to the infamous armed robbery
Let me tell you, that is fear like you couldn't even imagine. It feels as though your entire life has collapsed around you, and you're standing over a void ready to swallow you whole
I've also been I Arthur's position in this scene, though I've never killed anyone beyond I my imagination. But that alone is both terrifying and bizarrely liberating. To know that through one random act of extreme violence can upend your entire life through something as simple as a decision and a command to the muscles
@@londonlad3739Sure you did pal.
Joker 2 isn't cannon to me. Because this scene alone speaks VOLUMES that Arthur died and there was only Joker.
Same
There was no Joker. It's actually more interesting if there is no Joker.
This is the moment Arthur became Heisenberg
Realshit this scene alone is better than all the bloody scenses in joker 2
Just left joker 2 well I’m going to pretend it never happened
😂
Not only was Gary the only one who was ever nice to Arthur but Arthur acknowledged that Gary was also heavily bullied too, so he sympathized with Gary a lot.
This was the moment Arthur died and the joker took over then the sequel came out and said nope
I refuse to acknowledge the sequel as canon
Arthur is the joker and vice versa…in the second you realize that Arthur killed these people…yes he wanted to blame it on a persona to get away but Arthur and the joker are not separate…in the sequel we see that he has lost his agency…he always had a moral compass and even this kill was moral…in prison people want him to just act like a psycho killer 24/7 but he is still the Arthur with morals. I think people saw what they wanted to see in the first one instead of what was actually there and the second continued the story of what actually happened and not what many fans thought happened leading to a disconnect for those that went in with preconceived notions.
I did a review on my channel
"Fuckin crazy innit, me on the telly" that line cracks me up every time 🤣 this movie is amazing
Yes, the spontaneous brit accent
I love that quote lol
2:46
He could play Ozzy Osborne 😂😂
Lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂
I don't know how often this kind of thing happens, but I think it's crazy that there are people who escaped the wrath of someone because they were simply nice to them.
Isn't weird that being a kind person sometimes pays off.
What a strange world we live in (sarcasm)
were do you think the "quiet kid tells you not to come into school tomorrow" memes came from?
IIRC, I think something like that did happen at Columbine.
NO it's not. It's the innocent getting nothing and the assholes getting what they deserved. Simple as that. NONE of the violence in this movie was random.
That kiss on the head was the last kiss of sanity leaving his body
I mean he also kissed the old woman at the Murray Show
It was nothing to do with sanity. It was gratefulness to the people who were good to him before he went to do what he wasn't coming back from
@@sweetplaysclaw7084 I wonder why 🤔
The new Joker sequel is an abomination that spits in the face of this film.
@emperador_ccru Please don't, I promise you it's better to watch it on a private streaming service than to pay actual money.
If you are expecting a story like the first movie it isn't anything like that, especially with the ending. Kinda makes everything we saw pointless.
But if you want to see it go ahead but just keep in mind to have your expectations low.
@emperador_ccru lets pretend it never happaned
i feel bad because the joker's actor again really did a oscar perfomance
he deserved a better story, i wanted this actor to be a joker of a batman
@@Bruce_wayne69_edits I enjoyed all the performances and I wouldn’t have minded if this was just a bland, boring film. (Which it is that too). But it feels like an assault on the Arthur Fleck character and really spits in the face of the story told in part 1. Very disappointing. My theater was just silent at the end
@KingComodus I 100% agree with you they recently made a LGBT promotional agahata show and no one is talking about it , if it was dc that has shown that they would call dc gay
they always forgive big mistakes of marvel and start roasting dc on very small things
like roasting zack snyder movies just because he made batman kill and put a dark tone which match to situation
'fakin crazy innit, me on the tele'
genius touch with gary being a brit
*English
I wish they would make Batman movies this violent
@@meteormelee cant tell if youre illiterate or you replied to the wrong comment
@@user-nn8lb6co5i i can't tell if your joking or did not know someone can delete a comment like the one he could of been replying too
tell me more, about how it would have the @.......
but i'm replying to you now, and i'm not using (@)..
@@Nypex0 one could delete @ if they made a mistake or wanted to change what they was saying and held backspace down. do you think.. "then why did you watch it?"... was a reply to the original comment ? that's my only reason i don't think it is, the original comment is 3 week's old, anything come of been said in that time.......skip time someone reply's and they feel like they should delete the comment and with meteor-melee not using @ there's no proof to who it was meant for.... that's what i was getting at adhro could not know for a fact who meteor was replying to, yet he calls him illiterate some people are and for some English is not their first language
I remember watching this in the movie theater and when Gary couldn't get out I kept thinking please don't kill him....when he let him go I felt so much relief 😅. Treat others with respect and humility...might save your life
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
MIGHT is a key word. I met a paranoid schizophrenic on an EMS call.
I was kind, understanding, empathetic and damnit…downright cool to him. I didn’t even tell him to back off when he came to my work station to tell me “thank you”, again and again …. & AGAIN. My coworkers began to fear for my safety, but knowing his dx I didn’t want to pis$ him off.
He showed up on my porch & asked me to be the MAID OF HONOR @ his wedding! I didn’t know him or his “fiancé” enough to attend the wedding let alone stand up in it. I told him I had to work that day and thanked him for considering me gave him a hug and congratulated him.
THEN, he smiled & said the deadly words… Yeah my life is going well for me now. I stopped taking my medicine and I’m doing much better.
I called the police after he left. They KNEW me thru EMS & went above & beyond to keep an eye on me. (Watching my house. Parking down the street, etc) Still, even they couldn’t do anything legally until he had threatened or tried to harm me.
He then started showing up everywhere I was. He went to my work supervisor eyes wide & anxious. He said I was secretly putting methamphetamines in his urine while he was sleeping so he would fail drug tests. He said I was stalking him and I had this special power to see through his walls and command him to do certain things that he wasn’t responsible for. He said I was trying to kill him secretly. He said he was keeping an eye on me because he would do anything to stop me from killing him if I tried to. Which was still not a threat he was just saying he would defend himself if I tried to murder him.
Once again police could do nothing because he hadn’t directly threatened me. They too were fearful if I got a restraining order it would just be a piece of paper that would mean nothing to him. It would infuriate him & THEN he may snap. My fear as well.
Long story short he got married and tried to kill his wife on their honeymoon. Beat her head & face in w his bare fists. I’m not sure if she is alive or even a functional adult anymore.
He was committed to a state hospital… Not a prison. He belongs in a state hospital for life…not a prison. I don’t know when or if he will ever get out. I don’t know if he is even alive today. I just hope if he ever does get out…he doesn’t remember the girl “that was nice to him.”
@@natalierozean5989
Man... that's quite an experience. I mean, if the other person has some kind of psychological problem then being kind may not really have an effect as their perception of reality is completely distorted. At least here Arthur was still somewhat reasonable.
This makes me want to become more good to anyone like anyone. You never know if someone are having a bad day or what mental state they are in, a simple good manner will be good to them and anyone... Like hello how are you and never treated them bad like others did to them. Like if i was joker on this scene, I won’t kill the little guy either because he was good to me when others was disrespected me...
I think that is definitely one of the points of the movie, it only takes a series of bad people and events to make us feel so hopeless.
Nah man media loves saying how this movie "Inspires violence".
While all the movie did was telling what's wrong with violence and why it happens.
I am glad you realised. Be nice
one thing Arthur is nice to Gary unlike JenniferA.ThatB. she's mean to Gary whenever she Sees him Don't know if she just Don't like aussies everybody loves 2:45 or what , JenniferA. Thinks she's some CuteB.
@Alexandria , were you in AnnMargaret Magick movie
Gary was the most adorable character in this movie
And the most innocent
What a great movie. Shame it never got a sequel...
It did but was terrible it destroyed everything this movie build pretty much
@@edrianraneses5864 It did not get a sequel. It. Did. Not.
@@ekathe85 It did this year but it was awful and some people would rather pretend the first one did not have one
@@edrianraneses5864 An unworthy sequel is not a real sequel
@ekathe85 I can accept that
If you notice he was so serious when he opened the door but as soon as he saw Gary he changed.
Moral of the scene; Be nice to others.
Of the whole movie more like it
@@noahsmith4877Blind hypocrisy
The worst thing Arthur did in this movie was jump scare Gary lol.
If think people pleasing others in detail to judge on that is a stretch. I notice people like John Wick no judgement on his actions too the audiance is just respected blowing heads off every turn. Its amusing compliment and cool.
And arthur case little judgements is just part of Arthur irritation why he hits Randell harder in frustration of how he feels.
The comparison is striking.
This scene was when phoenix secured greatest Joker of all time to me. From the legendary and hysterical line "my mom died I'm celebrating" to the dwarf struggling to reach the lock lmaooo, it was pure gold.
There's reason in all of this. He is not crazed or delusional. He has a solid set of logic. He figures, I'm going to die tonight, I might as well take out this guy I really dislike. But spares Gary because- he's not a crazed maniac. He's a regular person, trying his best to live with the cards he's been dealt. Gary is a decent person, Gary treats people well, he is targeting those he believes have caused his unfair suffering. "My mom died, I'm celebrating" might sound strange to us. But for him, he knows his mother was a terrible person. Would you not celebrate the death of someone who tormented you to the point of developing trauma? When people still have a logic system, you cannot call them crazy. They are within their minds, just under different principles than we are.
I consider this movie a litmus test for people who are capable of understanding the full consequences of parental abuse/neglect of the nature shown in this movie. It's an authentic portrayal of how hard it is to integrate and succeed in society when you have a parent like this and no other support system to show you the truth of things and give you the resources you need.
Facts
I felt so bad for Gary, he looked so scared.
Same
Wouldn't you be scared if you just witnessed someone killing another person right in front of you? 😂
To me this is one of the most terrifying scenes I have ever seen in the movies. When the little guy realized he could not reach the chain lock I almost died.
Nah real ones know he was gonna survive. Little dude did him no wrong the whole movie, and Arthur had nothing to lose by letting him go. Arthur wasn't a sadistic person, dude didn't even want to shoot the kids on the train. You must not know much about people and/or not watch much horror films if you think this was terrifying.
@@Anthony-eb8et Well, the other dude whom he whacked did not do any harm to Arthur either. Heck, those two were on a friendly visit with a bottle of wine and all. Arthur is a live grenade. Unpredictable, impulsive, hallucinating. Deprived of his medications. Played so well, that, unlike many other movies, here I did not expect what was coming in many situations.
@@vicinvesta8349 He did actually. He gave him the gun knowing how unstable he was and expecting to be "paid back". He didn't back Arthur when Arthur was getting fired for having the gun, and could have helped Arthur keep his job which he desperately needed. When he was expecting everything to be cool because he paid him a visit to his place giving him a gift of a bottle of wine lol. Like wut? Lol
Either "his friend" Randall is incredibly stupid... or... he wanted him fired and wanted to take advantage of his instability. I'd take a bet on the combination on both
@@vicinvesta8349 Furthermore, I suggest you watch crime movies and shows. Or at least pay attention lol. Maybe it will save your life one day, monsters are out there worse than him, only because they were him at one point. Only thing scary about Arthur is that there are plenty of people just like him living in the background while you live your normal everyday life. Someday one of them is gonna have a really bad day. Good luck to you on that. Welcome to the world
@@Anthony-eb8et jeez, what a conceited moron you are!
Imagine having witness a murder and the killer actually let you walk out
Randall is what I like to call a fake friend.
He never supports or backs up Arthur in the film. He only PRETENDS to care for him. All he wanted to do in this scene was hear Arthurs side of the story, so that he can go and tell the cops and say that Arthur killed the subway people, and he makes himself look innocent. A great example is when he accuses him of having a gun, even though Randall was the one who gave him it.
Even calling him, "You're my boy." Is a way of showing that he wants Arthur to still like him, so that he can continue using him, either as a scapegoat, or for just shits or giggles.
For those who have, or still are suffering from fake friends, I can relate, because I had fake friends. Feel free to share your thoughts and feelings below 👇
More common in the big cities
Yep lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂 randall gave author the gun, even damn near forcing him to take it and lied and told their boss that author tried to buy it off him😂, he was gonna go and tell the cops that he killed the subway people😂, he wanted to know what author had said lmfao😂.....then he said "you're my boy" lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@AntwaunGross I don't get what's so funny
The way he scares him right before he leaves... perfect.
I had to play it back 20 times to laugh
You’re evil lol
Poor Gary hes so adorable
Poor Gary, I felt bad for him. but I did laugh when he couldn't reach the chain lock 😂
Kkkkkk
when Arthur Said he Stopped taking his meds it ReMinded Me of when the HAL 9000 Said to Dave he Stopped taking his Software Patches Downloads and Dave's reaction expression the Same
Still not funny
This is the Arthur Fleck I want to remember.
Me too
“Your last name is puddles”
“Who has puddles as their last name”
We should be nice to people always. You never know when you will meet an Arthur that had enough of people
The mood whiplash of this scene is hysterical.
The hospital door bit and Gary not being able to unlock the door made my laugh like the Joker😂😂
and I Don't know why like Gary 2:08 Gary Laughing This Makes Me Laugh Too , woulda Been Better if Joker was 6 ft 240 lbs Like Ledger&Hardy and Take Down Randall then Tell Gary instead of it's OK Say GET In ME BELLY
In Case Most of you all are Unaware , Arthur suffers from a Mental Disease called Democrat , if you were observant this should have been obvious to you by the people he socializes with and his girlfriend , notice too how BruceWaynes's Father Said He will have him Arrested if he continues Protesting at his Estate Wayne Manor , he Said Clearly Stay Away you InsaneDemocrat
@@kittylionmeowroar7572 why the fuck do you keep repeating this
"you were the only one that was nice to me"
- the quiet kid
THIS is HOW you make a JOKER movie…
You can see who Arthur loves in this scene. After he opened the door, he doesn't look too happy seeing Randall's face but when he hears Gary's voice, his face is graced with a smile.
If he loved him he wouldn’t murder someone in front of him and traumatise him for life
Gary holding the bottle was really heartwarming
I love the little detail when Arthur's face is still blank when he sees randall after opening the door but brightens up the second be sees gary
How did the Joker go from this masterpiece to the excrement of Joker: Folie à Deux is just a damn mystery.
There is no second movie. 😅
I still remember that when I watched this in theaters the whole audience went "Awww" when Arthur was kind enough to let Gary go 😂
This movie is a masterpiece in dark humor
“My mom died I’m celebrating “ one of the best lines in this movie
I love how even though Arthur’s “Joker” makeup is halfway done and he’s not wearing his suit yet. He’s still fucking scary as him in this scene.
For some reason, Arthur with his Joker make being halfway done reminds me of how Joker looked in the New Batman Adventures. Minus the black eyes.
this is my favorite scene lowkey
@samsuffit ive known this
It’s mine too
same
"You're the only one that was ever nice to me"
Joker The Merciful
Gary's reaction kills me each time
😂😂😂
Just like Randell
The phrase "I stopped taking my medication, I feel alot better now" is usually the words before a disaster
Don't bully the quiet kid in school, kids.
Arthur was and still is a symbol of what so many people go through in this world
am glad he didn't kill the little dude honestly felt scared for him
And THIS is why I try to be nice to everyone, there's literally no reason to be mean.
Yes, because when you are not nice to anybody, you create devils.
Yup
Not everyone deserves their kindness.
This version of joker has more empathy and remorse than other versions
I agree I think it’s because it’s the beginning of his descent to complete madness. It would be fitting to see him get worse in the sequels.
He literally looks like a demon in this scene. This movie was wonderfully disturbing.
This movie is so good. No other words.
What makes it so good is, JOKER is a 'crazy' but also a so realistic character. Real life vibes.
“You were the only one who was ever nice to me” Felt that 😢😢
Everyone is talking about “you were the only one that was ever nice to me” but the part where he randomly jump scares Gary just killed me.
Like, there’s no reason for it, let’s just have a little joke. Completely Joker.
He pranked him just like what a good friend does.
@@mags6946 trying to provide some stress relief, lol.
I howled the first time I saw that because it was hilarious and scared me too 😂
He did that to get him to leave sooner cause he was still stuck on the dead body
@@BlackDiamond2718 maybe, maybe.
Or maybe he’s developing a weird sense of humor based on frightening others?
2:55
Horrifying moment, both because it takes him a second to clock WHY Gary is scared shitless, but also because there is a sense of him enjoying it: he likes being feared
Jesus... Phoenix is a fucking great actor!
The fact that he closes the door to tell Gary that shows he couldn't let him go before he let him know
I love how Gary had to wipe off his tear and muster up the courage to ask Arthur to open the door.
1:38 I can’t begin to explain how disturbing he looks here
wholesome scene
Gives me faith in humanity
One for the family.
Hahahahahahahaha
-Joker
Yep
Nobody ever says anything bad/critical to somebody who lost a just parent.
You can get away with murder lol
The only people immune are other who lost their parent(s)
My dad died unexpectedly. After a week when I returned to work all my friends (with living parents) were really nice, awkward and palpably uncomfortable.
Then my friend Fraser (who had lost his mum year back) saw me. He let out a massive shit eating grin, widened his arms in celebration and said loudly:
“ Jimmy! Welcome to “The Dead Parents society””
I paused for a second and then laughed harder that I did since he died. It felt so great that he wasn’t treating me differently than he did before my dad died.
My advice to others who have a friend that loses a loved one……
Don’t change the way you treat them, it just reminds them how different their life is now.
Tampoco hace falta que me cuentes aquí toda tu vida, para eso cómprate 1 diario
Talking to people that just lost someone is not easy though. If you talk to them you don't want to say anything that is inappropriate. And I believe this fear is warranted, because people that lost someone are easier irritated because they are experiencing heavy feelings.
I think you would agree with me that you don't joke with them for a while because they are just not in the mood. Your friend met you with a joke but I think it worked because it was already a week after the death. If you lost your dad they same day you wouldn't have laughed because you were in a completely different mood.
Getting back to normal mode is dance of people trying out small things and seeing how you react. And at some point you are back to "normal". Or maybe you are the one to initiate humor to show that you are ok with it.
if someone tells me that I'm throwing hands lmfao
I understand what you mean, but when I first read your story and heard that, I was shocked and I thought you would have ended the friendship but you instead found it funny. 🤔
When someone is upset, I normally try to be very friendly and upbeat with them. I feel like that some people do well when you acknowledge their pain, and some people, like me, just want to be reminded of the world's joys, and that there are people who genuinely love and like you.
I feel so bad for Gary everytime man. He so traumatised and upset. It genuinely makes me so sad 😭😭 He's such a sweet guy 😭😭😭
Notice how he doesn’t start smiling till he sees Gary
It is the subtlety of things that make this scene/movie so good. Arthur's face after looking through the peep hole and seeing Randall is pure disgust when he opens the door. Then he sees Gary and smiles and invites them in. It's brief, but exactly why it is so perfectly done especially with the camera moving down and showing Gary from Arthur's viewpoint. He then slowly builds to the fact he's going to kill Randall and marks the wall with the cigarette. And when you're not sure if Arthur will actually let Gary go, that brief moment he recloses the door after unlatching the chain adds so much to the feeling of being trapped and inevitable death for Gary...only to be kissed on the head and released from what everyone felt was certain death.