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M4 Carbine vs Ak-12 [Military Comparison]
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The M4 is extensively used by the United States Armed Forces and is largely replacing the M16 rifle in United States Army and United States Marine Corps combat units as the primary infantry weapon and service rifle.
The AK-12 project began in 2011 by the IZHMASH factory which became part of the Kalashnikov Concern as a private venture, in an attempt to participate in the "Ratnik" trials which were held by the Russian Army. It was further developed by Kalashnikov Concern, and throughout its development and evaluation stage it has received multiple modifications to meet the Russian military's standard and to address the Russian Army's concerns regarding the cost and issues in fully automatic fire of the earlier prototype models.
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Sorry, the cartridge of M4 is 5.56x45mm thank you all for comments they really help us to improve the quality of the videos!!!
Ak 12 has a mode 2 fire
@@brentjaynumbaddo478 M4 5.56 has 3 firing mode: Semi-auto, Full Auto, Triple fire mode
Do you do your research? Can't even spec the rifles properly. No wonder you chose the M4.
Should've been the M416
how is the m4carbine the winner? The m16 was always more expensive then the ak47 yet was always declared the winner due to higher accuracy. But now the most expensive and most accurate is the AK12, yet somehow the m4 wins??? You just contradicted yourself!
You havent mentioned important thing. AK12 can shout semi, auto and 2 bullets - this is more important than rate of fire. That split is very accurate!
I’m currently in the army and my m4 is semi auto and burst and is made by fn
@john Cenna lol that's funny in my platoon there are 2 guys from Vietnam who joined to get their citizen ship I'm a white guy by the way spanish german lol
@john Cenna nunez is brazilian? wtf haha
2 bullet in 1 hole
@@stevennunez6013 i own the fn s 20 with smitd and bender pm 20 scope
Я русский) I am Russian. and the AK-12 does not cost $ 1000. We have 500 $ + -
yes wrodk
This video is just shit .
За 500$ ты купишь только ак-74М
Видос конечно ниачем, но вот именно с ценой на ак12 тут все верно. По словам гендира концерна Калашников стоимость ак12 примерно 1к$. И это вполне закономерно, массовое производство начали не очень то и давно, от 74м там не так много осталось, наверняка со временем процесс еще оптимизируют и удешевят. А вот м4 делают со времен царя гороха, время на оптимизацию было просто жопой жуй.
From Iceland, the country that is literally in the middle, between Russia, USA and Europe. All I did think was "A American sounding voice gives the M4 a win, wonder if it was a Russian channel".
Being so lucky to live right in the middle. We often feel connected to Asia, Europe, America even though we are Europeans. It gives us a unique view on "What is What". I must say, I agree Jatt. This video is shit. The Ak-12 is by far more effective. All the way back to Ak-47´s in Vietnam vs M-16´s. To M4´s vs Ak-12´s. The Russians still win when it comes to making the best assault rifles. If I would rule Iceland, Iceland would try to buy the Ak-12´s or maybe the Ak-15´s. Have not looked in to them yet. However our small armed forces could use these Ak-12´s. I would not put in their hands some 20 plus year old models of M4´s
Putin is obviously doing great things when it comes to his military ground forces. I just wish I had the power to work more with Russia to build a better relationship between the continents. There is literally so much Russia can gain from Europe/America and vice versa. We are talking about a United European Empire that would last for at least 20.000 more years. With Russia, Europe and America all working back together as Europeans before we explored our ways in to new worlds when we all used to be Vikings exploring the now known European continents. Russia, Europe and America united all with one cause. We would become the most powerful empire the world has ever seen. Don´t forget the Australians... They also got a seat at the table, however something tells me they would never sit at it. Their mind is twisted after being on the wrong side of the planet for so long ;) No offense intended. Just saying, not seen a country/continent as liberal as Australia!
@@Dyrlingur yes you are right bro when comes to the comparison between this two country always gives the USA wins... even I'm Indian also like all Russian product specially military weapons... salute to you bro and nice country Iceland 🙏🙏🙏...
I've stop watching after "Both weapons feature a 5.45x39". Military channel. Hmmm. I'm pretty sure the M4 uses 5.56x45
This channel is a joke. In the video about AK (AK-47) they said that GP-25 fires a standard RGD-5 Hand grenade...
Yea school boy error great quality production just wrong facts .should try reporting the news you would be ideal for that😉
@@BloPsy__ rgd-5 🤦♂️😂
They corrected it in a comment, I thought the same thing when I was watching though.
Maybe they mean it in game
I would choose AK simply because is more likely for this rifle to cope with dust , dirt , freezing conditions and so on than M4 .
No.
Pussy Consumer yes
dust and dirt? Maybe and maybe not... freezing conditions, definetly
The "reliability" thing has been debunked for awhile now.....the AR is MUCH more reliable than given credit for and the AK is more accurate than given credit for. Look at InRange mud test and get back to us....
@@thomash4447 Did you saw the reliability test made by russians on AK at their factory ? Do you seriously believe that M4 can take that ?
The AK can be easily repaired on the field and can quickly disassembed if it have a mechanical problem. Easier to train soldiers how to use it as well. Because its relatively easy to repair, use, clean and for it's reliability, i would take an AK anytime.
Thats not true at all, I dont know why people think that. AKs take longer to fail but once they do they are notoriously difficult to repair, everything is permanently fixed together. if you have to replace the barrel on an AR you can do it in a couple of minutes in the field, if you need to replace your barrel on an AK you need a hydraulic press, a workshop, and a good knowledge in gunsmithing
just saying you can’t disassemble the m4 quickly cause that mf don’t break like the AK
@@alexvermaak1759 You just need to pull out one pin
@@tp57078 "you just need to pull out one pin"... my friend, to take the barrel pin from an AK you need either a hydraulic press or a hydraulic air hammer, both of which will cost a few thousand in US dollars, you then need a conical chisel and punch to finish it or a long drift pin. Once you have gone through the lengthy process of "pulling out one pin" you actually have to remove the barrel, which will need a 20-30 ton hydraulic press or an air hammer. if you attempt to do any of this without first making sure the trunnions are tight and well supported through the entire process you will bend the rifle and make it unusable. To get the new barrel in is significantly more difficult. This is not something you can do in the field, you will need a workshop and some very expensive tools, Kalashnikov was not built to be taken apart, she will last a very long time but when she breaks its over, you get a new one.
@@alexvermaak1759 aks are cheaply built. Yes, they last way longer than an ar, and can get tossed around and still work perfectly, but the ak is basically built to be thrown out when it eventually breaks.
There are a ton of issues with the scoring system. While I personally like the AR platform more, this video doesn't do enough justice to the AK platform. Moreover it feels like a comparison of wikipedia articles rather than an actual detailed analysis of either platform. Comparing things like weight, barrel length, effective range, and fire rate do not hold too without context and more information. For example, the weight of either weapon will change drastically depending on the configuration of the weapon in terms of things like the barrel, attachment interface, configurations of attachments, and etc. I feel like the video needed much more depth, much more research, and more analysis of the different aspects of the weapons. You should also screen the videos for weapon variants that aren't a part of the video. For example, there was a prototype AK-12 within the video alongside AK-15s and production AK-12s.
I don't mean to be rude, but I want to provide good criticism about the video as I feel like it would be helpful for constructing higher quality ones in the future.
Absolutely. 👌
Rate of Fire, unlike in games and movies, is desirable when it's lower
Is it? I'm pretty sure that in Vietnam, they found that in CQB, the biggest factor in who won the fight was the highest fire rate.
I mean, there has to be a balance, a gun that goes empty in half a second is as useless as one that is effective a bolt action.
Only in long distances ;)
@@sankhyohalder97 nah, the one who win the close quarter combat is not the one who necessarily bigger, stronger or better fire-supported like in the case of American soldiers when facing Vietnamese soldiers at close distance; but the one who have more will and readier to die for mission accomplising, in this situation surely is ours. Out of ammo or in time for reload the enemy can reach the gap, then who have gut to strike bayonet and accept being stabbed will likely stab the opponent first.
And don't forget that while AK-47 ancestor of AK-12 have lower accuracy than M-16 father of M-4 (still acceptable with Soviet and Vietnamese doctrine), it has an overall more realiability, durability and suit better for vast different natural environments and physical impacts (mud, sand, water, ice, drop,...). It's critical in tropical jungle where all those factors except ice eliminated the M-16 badly which cause jamming (just shoot more than 2 mags continuously and M-16 will basically malfuction without these things); then surely you don't want a jammed stick in your hand before the barrel of an assault rifle.
Fire rate and accuracy are just 2 among many factors that matter in battle for rifle. Higher fire rate and boom, jammed; does it have any meaning left? Accuracy and boom, overheated faster than enemy, is it matter anymore? Is an assault rifle supposed to bring suppressive fire or accurate ballistic?
Depends
Military Weapons no
AK12 - 1000 USD? C'mon, i can buy it now in russian stores for 700-800 USD. Civil version without autofire - named AK-TR3.
Man, i live in Russia (my English very bad😂😂) and have tr-3, I bought his 1050$.
Wait, you can buy assault rifles in Russia? If yes can you get full-auto ones or just semi-auto?
@@ShadowReaper-pu2hx yes, we can. but semi-auto only (unfortunately)
@@rufus7399, ok very cool. Even if it’s only semi-auto that’s still much better than New York (state). Is it in all of Russia that you can own semi-auto assault rifles or only certain parts? It’s ok if you don’t know.
@@ShadowReaper-pu2hx It is the same gun legislation all over Russia. So yes everyone can own semi-auto assault rifle. But we can't own a small guns. I mean pistols or revolvers. Some think this is a big disadvantage, but others think it is ok, because these small guns will be used mostly for crimes. We have very-very weak judgement (full with corruption). So even you will use legally death force in almost 100% cases you will be sentenced to jail. So even you have assault rifle or should it be pistol, in Russia you can use it only for hunting, but not self-defence. Unfortunately we have a crime state now with mr.Putin with no justice at all. I just wonder we can own these firearms now, lol. Maybe it will be banned in nearest future just like pistols. Our state is afraid of its armed citizens.
Ak12 my choice, but the better one is the one you can handle.
M4 Its ok only in labor. AK 12 Its good for Fighting ... 🤪
AK12 is good for killing a single target when M4A1 Is god for killing a multiple target
@@bunhlsabunbunletssaveanima7953 why you say that?
@@markuswilliams5075 I think maybe the he said that because the M4 has a higher fire rate and maybe can go through multiple unarmored targets with an armor piercing round.
The m4 has no recoil is extremely accurate and light and the new m995 ammo will go through most armor
@@stevennunez6013 The AK-12 is 20% more accurate then AK-47 and AK-74 now that doesn't sound much. But it is near upto the par as same level M4 accuracy and maybe in precision.
The whole new barrel that allows the bullet to spin faster and be more precise and accurate because the barrel is made for that purpose and has built in flash hider and and muzzle break to stop the recoil from getting out of control.
The AK-203 I'd prefer this gun over M4 in urban warfare like the West Bank or borders of Israel where the Islamic militants come from neighboring countries into Israel town and cities.
But for more open combat without conflict where there's no town and cities. In large fields I'd go with M16-A4.
If I were Chinese or indian army military personnel I'd prefer mixture of AK-12 and M16!
AK all the way.
@Imperial Japan Dude, the AK-12 as well as most rifles that use 5x45x39 with a muzzle break has the same amount of recoil as AR platform rifles.
Ak12 for me
Same for me, I choose AK-12
M4 is way better. Way more accurate.
@@lionsden4563 whatever, its people choice rather people choose AK or M4
@@XingXing_77723,
Of course. But the fact still remains the same. I've shot using both of them before. M4 is way more accurate.
@@lionsden4563 that's for you, I've haven't fire AK yet,but I've fire the M16A1 and its good
Ak12 for the average joe that needs a rifle that can be thrown in a closet collecting dust for a couple decades and pull it out without any issues and use it without needing to think about keeping it well lubed and clean. M4 if you have a professional military armory full of spare parts and know it will be well taken care of.
Both guns are very good. Just different mindsets on how they should be used. All Aks are stupidly simple and anyone can take care of them. The parts are big and hard to lose. They are easy to clean and work well even when dirty or dry. M4/m16/AR like to be kept well lubed and work better that way and need cleaning a bit more often. Both are accurate and reliable. AK 5.45x39 has less options for good ammo vs 5.56/223 But even the worst crap steel case ammo in an AK is going to be better than the average shooter will need in any sort of combat.
I would take the ak12 just knowing it will likely work just fine the rest of my life even if its not treated right. Too many stories of nasty old rusty AKs being taken apart cleaned and oiled and still working flawlessly. The m4/AR platform is a bit too tight for that. Let them get that messed up and its likely a lost cause trying to get them to function again. Hard to go wrong no matter what you pick between the two. Hopefully we will never see these two go head to head in any full scale ground war.
Why this comment doesn't have more likes? These are actual true facts.
Instead, usually comments full of myths get the most attention.
@@BloPsy__ Lol dunno. Just how people think i suppose.
You literally just labeled off the M4s negatives and glossed past them. The AK-12 can fire 5.56 making the superior rifle in every possible way.
Ak12 rules and the Kalashnikov M4 and M16 sucks
@@ChefofWar33 do you even know what you’re talking about? The ak12 fires in 5.45 not 5.56
You’ve probably never seen an ak12 or handled one.
Why don’t you ask Larry Vickers about the Russian sr1.
Thumbs down!!!
M4 DRAWBACK IN EXTREME COLD WEATHER THE EDGE TO AK 12!
Yes m4 gets jammed in harsh envoirment
Well luckily most of the US is not a baren wasteland of snow and ice
@@alphaama3431 but can be fixed with a few taps on the forward assist button to unjam the rifle
M4/,M16 always have stoppage issues in desert/dusty environment. Might not fire when you needed it the most.
Russian motto: If it ain't broke don't fix it. AK is better in every way...
I'll take the AK it's built for the armageddon.
Is it because it’s cheap?
@@myusername3689 Since when AKs are cheap? Most of the good AKs are just as pricey as AR-15.
@TheReal RedWolfofDeath There are facts that US soldures dropped and still dropping AR for AK in middle east contries.... Reliability matters when you want to survive.
@@smyrzashev yeah even special forces sometimes carry aks
@@smyrzashev THIS VIDEO OVERLOOKED RELIABILITY, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CRITERIA.
The AK-12 is the most powerful weapon that is truly terrifying
AK-12 breaks/overheats 4 times faster than m4.
Russians cant make a normal rifle since 1991.
But no man made weapon can beat one thing the Tsar Bomba
@@miguesison7152 Old man, no one uses nuclear bombs nowadays, What's the point of using a bomb, when you can use a rocket
@@357reasons7 but bombs are pretty cool
@@miguesison7152 They are, but no one uses them so..
I feel in love with the first model AK-12 in Cod Ghosts and they just made her look even better, hopefully i can get it or get links to getting it
Both are excellent weapons, ultimately is mostly comes down to personal preference.
Not when your personal neck is on the chopping board. Better take the AK. Drop the AR platform..that is for target range only.
@@JSharap 😂
The Ak is overrated
No ak12 is the best
@@Edmondson_Avenue it's overrated because it's the most reliable assault rifle in the world. Even a country has the ak on their flag!
1:40 you say 500 metres but show 700 RPM
That was the deal he can't refuse.
I noticed it too,
I don’t understand your scoring tbh. A longer barrel length isn’t strictly better than a shorter one, and having the fastest fire rate doesn’t matter when most soldiers don’t full-auto in engagements anyways. Sure, things like effective range and muzzle velocity are pretty easy to determine which is better, but certainly not everything you’re scoring.
Just his own version dude.. No gun can compare to AKs achievements..
You're right rifles are mostly shot in semi anyway. Plus the range mentioned in the video is inconvenient because different loads have different ranges. This video looks like it came from Wikipedia
Who says barrel length does not matter..? Barrel length matter in terms of accuracy.
@@Socrates99917 ??? you're putting words in my mouth. I said "A longer barrel length isn’t strictly better than a shorter one." A shorter barrel is far better in CQC situations for instance, both have pros and cons.
@@Socrates99917 use a 20" barrel on urban warfare to clear rooms. it does not seem the better choice. barrel lenght matter depending of mission.
The Ak Is Superior
When The Barrel Gets Hot On The Ar Platform The Gas Tube Will Rupture
The Ak Gas System Remains Operational
The 5.45 Is Accurate On The Ak Platform
@we6er123 Extreme lengths of sustained fair are not rare whatsoever. There were many battles in Afganistan that Marines were slaughtered because they overheated their M4s and the AKs kept on going.
for Americans, the answer can only be M4-style because they can't get an AK-12 for the foreseeable future, unlike us Europeans.
I am sure there will be some effort in USA to make AK-12/15 style weapon.
They have American made "AK-103" now.
@@BloPsy__ how does that work. Can you just make another coutries wepons?
In a gun machine world, AK series is a hell machine. 🌪️⚡💪💯
Gun machine?
You gave the M4 a point for having a 3FPS velocity advantage? Give me a break.
He didn’t mention how reliable it is or any ergonomics.
@@reallymentalpig1173M4 is much more reliable than any AK
As much as I love my M4A, AK’s are go to when shit hits the fan.
I actually put my hands on one and for 300 yards or less . It's a winner .American made with US brass .
m4 be careful not to dirty it or freeze it because they don't work anymore! Ak always works!
You just trying to down the ak I saw my own eyes the m4 is failed many times Ak 12 is best in the world.
It’s the usuals. Try opening any American news about Russia. It’s always: ‘Yeah, they good, BUT WE’RE SOOO MUCH BETTER’
I have watched alot of youtubers who does some weapon tests seen alot of ARs getting jammed never seen AK jam
Well I carried an M16A2, M16A4, and the M4A4 during my time in the Marine Corps and can tell you I never once had a jam or malfunction caused by my rifle. I had a bad magazine once and I had some garbage ammo once, but that would muck up any weapon, and I certainly don't blame the rifle. Hell I have my own AR-15 made of mostly "liberated" military parts that I treat like crap. I never clean it properly, it's filthy all the time, I just add some oil and keep rolling. I'm over 2000 rounds in with no malfunction yet (doing it on purpose, interested to see how long before cleanliness actually causes malfunction like some say.)
I also own an AK-47, and have had several malfunctions with it in as many rounds, not caused by magazines or ammo. I know if I went back to combat and was offered the option, I'd take the US rifles any day.
@john Cenna haaaaahaaaaa! It was in my reality ! Reman ammo , beat up mags out of garbage can . The barrel was warped . Couldn't hit can of beans at 25 yards with it .
soo are we just go ignore that he said that M4 fire 5.45x39 ? i mean 5.56x45 is not 5.45x39
You only read the specs of both Ripple, but the real test never been done, test them both in under water firing, test them in dust, muds, lowest temp, and highest temp. We will see who's the best.
None of these "stats" matter irl.
You did not point out the SIMPLIST rule, RELIABILITY, which makes the AK, a superior all time winner.
@we6er123 Have you tested it yourself? Keep both weapons for the years after firing them, don't clean/lubricate them for long and then fire both. You will get the result.
He disregarded the reliability..🤣🤣 “if you can’t have it, better destroy it”
Realy??? What about maintenance??? What about the quality of the materials from wich the weapons are made??? What about the jaming risk?! What about the Resistance to dust, mud, water....?!?! This presentation is so weak!!! ITS clear for all that the AK is by far the winner!!!
How the times have changed. The Russian rifle has more effective range and more expensive than the American rifle.
No, you can buy a kalashnikov rifle like this for 900$ in moscow. and a normal Ak103 for 535$ . But they are made with quality. I never would use an ar-15 that i bought for 500$.. it allready sound like a shitty gun. Because an ar works on thinner tolerances. so the parts are more expensive.
These two rifles are pretty much good in specs but the main thing is reliability. In this segment ak perform better than m4
No it doesn't, any test will show the 556 has a greater effective range.
@@toade1583 it's not only about the ammo, but also the barrel lenght.......
You can get an AK chambered in 7.62x39, 5.45x39, 5.56x45 Newer generations allow for 7.62x51 and so on. You can't get an AR-15 chambered in 7.62x39 or 5.45x39 with out it being completely custom made. AK's are so good they can be built shitty and still work. AK's are so easy to operate with. You can teach someone that knows nothing about guns in about 3 hours, If you were teaching someone how to use a AR-15, it would take you 3 weeks to cover the basics of an AR-15. The AK is easy to use that a child can use it, and they do.
>custom made
dawg they've been selling 7.62x39 AR-15 uppers that fit onto normal AR-15 lowers for years. Same with 5.45, but theres less options, *kinda the same with 5.56 AKs.* So by all accounts you can have one registered 'firearm,' and be able to either swap uppers or individual components between 5.56, 7.62x39, 300 blackout, 6.5 grendel, 5.45, .224 valk, all with either no or very little actual gunsmithing. As far as I can tell, even if you wanted your AK-12 to be in 5.56, you're still gonna have to buy an entirely separate AK19.
and if theres one thing the American gun market, or even Kalashnikov Media should be able to teach you, its that theres a big difference between a crude finish and some misaligned parts, compared to actually poorly made components. Cause we have companies that both try to make cheap, crude ARs and cheap, crude AKs, and I'll generally say its the ones that make ARs that are able to stay in business with something of a serviceable reputation for longer.
And really, if it takes you even three hours to teach someone to fingerbang an AR-15, you're just a bad teacher, or a nogunz yourself.
And I want to make it clear that I own *one* 223 Wylde AR-15, but own a SAR-1, SA-2000M AMD-65, and a ZPAP
Taught my buddy how to field strip an AR before he went into the service. Had him down to 1 minute 10 seconds w/o tools from disassemble to reassemble after 20-30 minutes training on a match grade AR. He informed me that during his training they gave the recruits 4 minutes WITH tools to do the same thing.
Both platforms have their pros and cons, but I would give a nod to the gas piston system of the AKs cuz even if it overheats and droops, a few good whacks against a hard object will get it running again whereas an AR gas tube rupture would leave you SOL for semi and auto not to mention injury from flash burn through the hole in the tube when trying to fire like a bolt action.
AK the winners is
I would say the rate of fire is debatable. 950 feels smoother and with extensive training can be used effectively but it also will lead to a lot of wasted ammo by the average troop while not being the best for suppressive or covering fire. 700 is more controllable, in bursts with say two guns each firing 4-5 round alternating bursts you can suppress an enemy more effectively.
With shitty scope - no way
Rate of fire doesn’t matter jackasses unless it’s a squad automatic weapon or an mg
The M4 over any of the AK variants in my opinion...
Nah any ak over the m4 for me
You haven't been in a battlefield
Attributes going for M4 are less important than the ones for AK-12. On the other hand, the relevant stats that describe gun effectiveness are on the AK-12 side.
Is being able to hold zero not important?
AK ..if you need a rifle that save your arse. M4 ..strictly for shooting range and to hurt your enemies.
Russian ak 12
AK12 has better look better quality
You should maybe actually own a firearm or have experiential knowledge of them if you're going to make a military weapons channel.
I don't really get this video. It's comparing a carbine (thanks for the better pronunciation btw) and a rifle, both having different purposes. The M4 was made for close quarters operations, and because of its shorter barrel length (and weight), it was preferable. The AK-12 is basically just your heavily modernized improvement of an AK-74, a full rifle. It's really just not a good idea to compare the two and determine which is the "best", because they're both made for different purposes
I expected the answer "lol, neither is better dummy, they're for different purposes" from this video, but sadly they didn't really deliver on that, because I believe that's the correct answer
Please make video on AK19 and AK 203
AK-19 not yet in mass production, only few sample at las Army Show.
Thank You For Idea ;)
@@MilitaryWeapons Please don't... you will butcher it just like always.
why compare a 5.56x45 with a 7.62x39? the correct should be ak15 and ak 203, both using 7.62x39 cartridge
i think AK 12 is the best one
M4 is like a fine country girl, familiar. The AK 12 is like a really hot foreign chick, different. I can’t say no to either one
USMC is using M27-IAR now. M4 is a practice gun when the armys training.
That’s just a copy of the Germany H&K 416. Can’t beat German engineering
@@igoravonich2013 It is a HK 416. Not a copy
@@igoravonich2013 The whole world did in WW2.
Ak 12 is the best
proven in which battles?
The AK-12 looks prettier than the M4, and the author of the channel is clearly a patriot and loves the M4 more.
You shipped a very important point reliability
you should compare M4 and ak47. That makes more sense! AK12 is higher level than M4.
the 47 is a 7.62x39. if anything in terms of age. the 74 is closer to the m4. it still uses 5.45
@Quân Trần Nguyên
You are greatly mistaken by the bullet size comparison. There’s a reason they chose the ak-12 instead of the ak-47
Makes more sense? Are you kidding me? These fudds are more ridiculous every day...
*M4* - in service since *1994*
*AK (AK-47)* - in service since *1949*
Otherwise, the decision is difficult, but I would rather choose the AK12
PS:
I hate Will Smith
Why?
Even you said that the m4-advantages,I am loyal for the a.k. riple∆∆∆
1:41 the “M4 effective firing range is a short 500m”
Video caption: 700m
Taliban threw all the AKs, and picked up M4s.
Already shows which weapon is much better.
I like Ak12 more powerful.
I will still go for kalashnikov 👍
AK is made for a battlefield combat while the m4 is made for policing. Both can kill you but the attributes of the am make it a far better weapon.
I love ak12!
Wow, so many wrong statements. It sounds like this video was made by kids.
If you started an army can anyone tell me a list of weapons they would provide and be best on the battlefield
Only 2 real options in the end.
Either the M27 (more traditional)
Or X95 bull pop
If I were to make well-funded militia, weapons would be, (Not naming attachments like scopes, sights, lasers, grips, ext, as that would take to long.)
Pistol: Glock: 19x (Glocks are extra reliable and the G19 is from my perspective the best to compromise of capacity, caliber size, and size
Carbine/Rifle: MCX Virtus with Geisel upgrades ( Was choosing between this and the HK416, both being reliable weapons used by CAG but the modular ability of the MCX to go from shooting 600 meters away to changing the barrel relatively fast to one primed for CQB makes it my choice
DMR: M110a1 (I literally have no idea why I choose this one, I pretty much just said this sense the US Army is using this as a new SDMR and it’s replacing the trusted SR-25
LMG: Knights Armament LAMG (An extremely light LMG that is around the weight of a Thompson or M27, most likely extremely competent at the squad or fireteam level for small unit maneuvers and suppression however can’t use STANMAGs like the M249 SAW
Light Medium Machine Gun: Knights Armament AMG ( Extremely light for a NATO 7.62 machine gun however not adequate for long periods of suppressive fire similar to USSOCOM’s MK48 LMG
Medium Machine gun: M60e6 (Much more reliable than its Vietnam era counterpart and can provide good suppressing fire while lighter than the M240 series or FN MAG
One Day so...ironically...because I am small (5’3” 140lbs) the X95 would be better FOR ME! Personally!
But my recommendation is for the IWI CTAR-21 with the 15” heavy weight carbide free floating barrel, heat resistant, chrome covered, stainless steel, bolt face, I wish Israel would fix the but stock but that’s really a tiny personal preference.
Again, as a professional, a have preferred lighter and lighter trigger pull weights as I have gotten better and better at engaging the enemy by automatically going to a rapid, accurate, single shot fire mode (the optimum method of tactical shooting).
There is actually an aftermarket company that makes an alternate buttstock for the Tavor/X95 family of weapons. An they have a replacement Butt Stock that “gives” up to an inch of “give” after ever round, plus an all new LEGIT muzzle break/compensator that is suppressor compatible, PLUS the rubber butt stock cover/appendage tapers away from the weapon as it goes up thus preventing the weapon from sliding down.
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Mr.Whaler I am sorry, do u have any experience in using or at least studying firearms?
WorshipinIdols I do study war, and firearms a lot, so I do know a decent amount on firearms. Why, I’m guessing I said something stupid you caught?
They forgot how many jams the weapons suffer. Ak 12 wins in this regard
Don't weight determine the amount of recoil you get?
Yess, felt recoil
Shush, he doesn’t know. He’s only a ‘military expert’
Among other factors
I think that counts only for single shots!
Ak12 for me looks like badass
AK-12 for me!
In real war no one go for the M4... For smooth streets we need Ferrari... For rough terrain we always need jeep...
AK 12 is quite better for fighting
Amazing👍 informing video🎥
As someone that has done a long range shoot of both weapons, I can say that the AK sprays all over the place at 300, and I had shot decently at 400 with the M4. To all those that will say that I'm more of an AR guy than AK, it's not true. I've shot AKs more than ARs. Both have their advantages compared to one another. In my opinion, the AR is a better design........................ and the M4 shoots an 5.56x45.
Yes i wont belive you
You are comparing apples and oranges. Don't compare accuracy of modern AR-15 with AK47, compare it with AK74 or better with new AK12
@@victor_lar The vietnam era m16a1 is also more accurate than ak 47 hello ? 😂
@@fpsmarauder4777 Only when m16 worked. And it was AK74 contemporary, not AK47.
Why the m16 should’t work ? The m16a1 would still perform as good as a modern day ar.
I love Ak12
Actually
Ak12 is the best machine gun in the word .
M4 have a good looking but not good on the fighting not working like Ak12 & Ak47
I dont know if I would consider the m4 better in terms of fire rate faster fire rate leads to less control in terms of range, the ak12 I would bet can fire more rounds at greater distances with better accuracy because if you want to have the same accuracy with the m4 you would need to slow down your rate of fire which is why they started making guns with burst fire option the video didnt talk about the modes of fire the guns have either which was disappointing they left the impression that they have one mode of fire which is inaccurate.
Wrong!!! Lmmfao they didn't add burst to slow down the rate of fire for accuracy lmmfao they did because during the Vietnam war soldiers and marines would do what's called spray and pray, they would literally load and hold the trigger doing mag dumps without looking for the enemy and wasting ammunition so the military brass mainly the marines had a burst option added in place of the full auto option and the M16A2 was born and adopted in 1983 by the marines and in 1986 by the army, it had nothing to do with accuracy, any AR/M16/M4 platform is more accurate than any ak platform! Cut it out!
@@Edmondson_Avenue so your saying they added the burst fire option too slow down the rate of fire which would...increase accuracy and why did they do that because soilders were mag dumping into the bushes wasting ammunition so I dont see how you contradicted my statement
And yes the ak12 is highly accurate it will give any of our modern military firearms a run for its money
@@DarthVader-yd9id I never said that they added the burst feature to add accuracy lmmfao I said specifically to stop wasting ammunition! And if you think an AK is more accurate than an AR/M16/M4 you're really on one.
@@Edmondson_Avenue bro they put the burst on there to slow down the rate of fire for better accuracy
Go take an M4 fire down range 300yrds on full auto at a target and then again with burst fire at a secondary target and you tell me which target is gonna have more holes in it
It's only a waste of ammunition if you dont hit your target I can guarantee you when the military considered the whole issue with burst fire it wasnt because they where trying to save in ammunition it was because they wanted their soilders to hit their targets and not waste all their ammo shooting at the jungle because they could only carry so much ammunition at a time
And as for an AK that's just as accurate or more than our platforms go look up the AK-107 it has no recoil
@@DarthVader-yd9id It had nothing to do with accuracy it was about wasting ammunition and helping to keep count. You're wrong smh.
i don't think price should be considered when comparing The Best.
"The best" rating should only come from performance of the weapon and soldier.
AK is cheaper. He doesn't know shit.
When i bought an ak 15 ( the 7.62 version of the ak 12 ) it was so expensive 7000 $
Ak 12 is best because based on stg 44 stumgewehr
Pretty sure the STG is closer to the AR than it is to the AK
It’s not the kal-i-shnikov it’s Kalashnikov
Ak win in Battlefield
Cuz m4 in bf4 got a fkin burst fire mode instead of full auto
AK far better than M4. I always prefer AK.
Both are better than the other, depends on situation
comparing a carbine with a rifle... :/
Ak reliable all the way
Ak12 🔥
M4🙂
@@u.s.aunitedstatesofamerica5104 Ak12 ^-^
@@i9tt
M2 browning , M60 , M249 , AR15 ,M4shutgon , M4magine gun , M16 , scarl L , M24 , parret , and e.t.c.
Goodluck ☺️👍🇺🇸
I don't think rate of fire matters much, i would rather have an accurate gun than a gun that sprays bullets everywere, lower rate of fire is more controllable both in magazine capacity and handling. In real war most of the time you don't see the enemy, they are as good at hiding as you are, most modern military just spray bullets into buildings and bushes. Prefering lmgs over assault rifles.
AK 12
AK-12 is the best of the best.
would take a fn scar l, hk 416, or cz 805 bren 2 first all the way
The AK - 12
AKM: good
AK 47: good
AK 74: good
AK 12: breaks/overheats/jams
@F_ bash AK rifles which are made in the US are good tho
Vietnam choose AK
Yes the ak 12 is more expensive but it’s 5,45 caliber is proven to be better then the 5,56 because of armor penetration and over all damage to tissue because of both the steel core and it’s tumbling effect. So in short terms I find your score in accurate because you didn't look at the advantages of the sks caliber, and the over all accuracy of the platforms. And both of those the ak wins and that’s not even talking about reliability. So I’m counting the score of the ak as 6 to the m4s 4
Finally someone who understands that the bigger caliber doesnt have a better penetration
5.56 has exponentially better armor penetration than 5.45 but 5.45 is really volatile and inflicts really nasty wounds
ak 12 all the way served me well spawn camping lol
could you talk some difference between AK19, AK12, HK416, AR15 rifles? thank you
Just a ammo differences:
Ak19- 5.56 nato
Ak 12- 5.45
Ak15- 7.62
HK416 is a more reliable M4 that uses a short-stroke gas piston system
Please make video on M4 vs AK19!
I choose FAMAS just because is a French's rifle 😋
being replaced by the french version of the hk416... good rifle, but no match for newer ones. France made a good call, as Portugal did with the latest gen FN Scar
M4 🇺🇲👍
Why is barrel length a criterium for this?
M4 Carbine
all that said....i want one lol 😉