Why iRating Mostly Doesn't Matter
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- Опубликовано: 6 май 2022
- I explain why iracings iRating does not matter so much once you get above a certain irating and why even at lower iratings you should not care about your irating and instead just enjoy the racing.
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Thanks for the like and sub ! - Worth saying that the one time it is worth having a really high i-rating is if you intend to do the really large 12/24 hour iracing events and you went to be in the top split or high splits for them in that case having 6k+ iratings make a difference.
Mind you this then causes the issue of people having separate accounts to not lose iRating or them only driving in high Strength of field races / private races or only racing very specific content that they are 100% up to speed in as the risk of losing a ton of rating is really high ( especaily as even in the top splits you still often have really bad driving , back markers causing wrecks and generally unavoidable stupid crashes)
Yeah. I bought the IR04 the other day. Lots of crashes from others, meanwhile I just drive around them. lol
I been saying this for a while. Around that 2500 mark you start getting put in the top split for most non special events. I'm at 3800 now, so always top split except for the big events. The skill gap is so big at times. When you are running against 5,6,7k+ guys every race you have to have the mindset of not having a chance of winning so I just try not to lose IR. As far as on track battles they seem to be much rarer when you hit the 3k+ mark. That's why I been more interested in leagues since there seems to be more close competition in my experience. I do agree though, I don't really care about IR like I did when I first started.
Facts on top of facts AMEN
What do you mean it doesn't matter? How could you possibly get women's attention without it?
Great point at the end about the different series. I wish they would split open wheel and GT stuff.
I was trying to get 3k a couple of seasons ago and it was an incredibly frustrating experience as I had to basically stick to one series and I wasn’t having fun.
Driving multiple series it now bounces between 2.4K and 2.8k but I’m actually enjoying myself. Not the best iRating I know, but good enough to race against the fast guys and see just where I am.
Yeah, well, what did you expect? If you want a 3k or above, you have to be committed to mainly one series, because you need to invest a lot of time with:
- practicing/learning the track/car combo until you get competitive pace
- you need racecraft, that includes alternative lines, safe racing, reading and predicting behaviour of the other competitors etc.
@@iseeq72 I knew, I tried it and decided fun > irating. I’m still only a couple of good results away from 3k at the moment. That’ll change when I randomly decide to drive something I don’t normally lol.
I started 2 weeks ago and my iRating has gone up by about 400, and it's been kinda hovering between a 1.2-1.4ish. What's been hurting me is I've been mainly focusing on SR, meaning I'm starting from the back and not really pushing too hard. just goin for a Sunday drive. well, made class C (I'm an oval guy) and the trucks are so different from the ARCA cars and I can't seem to find pace at some of the tracks. so I decided not to race trucks. but I did my first race last night and found out my style driving in the trucks works better for me cuz I end up having better tires at the end of a run and can then long pit of a caution comes out. if a caution doesn't come out, I'll be towards the back but hey, I'll eventually find pace
Looks like ur wish is getting granted , GT and Formula are getting split March 4th , two branches off the Road License!
Its also used at heavens gate after you die. People who have lived their lives being kind to others are in for a shock.
Hmm, the mighty algorithm just gave me a video about this, in relation to mental health (from a low sub count simmer, expanding another ones point), and then you upload this.
I have seen the results of you pulling your hair out to this Mr West, so still haven't bothered trying the game, my mental health thanks you!
It puts me off trying other cars as I don't want to lose IR. I treat it more like a real life though. Choose a series to focus on for the season.
Most people don't have time to properly learn multiple cars, enough to be safe. irating vanity has the bonus effect of people trying to protect it, otherwise even more people would always go for the risky send.
I love your videos. You are really helping demystify iRacing for me. And you're funny! 😍
Thanks man. I needed to hear that 👍🏻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
Race open wheeler -irating goes up
Race GT cars my rating goes down
I'm the exact opposite haha, I need to get better at Open Wheel
Great video mate. In an ideal world iRacing should listen to you and make a new tier when you get to 2500> but unfortunately I doubt iRacing will do this as they would need to develop this and that’s gonna cost them money
man, perfect review, I agree with you, my IR looks like a roller coaster so I end up racing in splits that are way above my real level because I really like some cars that are not so popular, with fewer drivers.
You're right. I been focusing too much on maintaining a high irating and it has taken the fun out of it. I do want to raise it back up to avoid the lower split carnage, I will focus on enjoying the sim for the competition aspect.
You just need enough irating to get out of the bottom splits where the drivers are incident prone.
@@VishnuRajam4x4 I been iRacing for almost a decade. There is way more levels to it than that.
@@VishnuRajam4x4 im stuck in this cycle right now. Other drivers are absolutely TERRIFYING below 1.3k ish. You Cant trust anyone to not just yeet you off track at any given time.
@@nick89rs that goes for every split. Top splits have carnage too
I’ve been trying years to try get 2k irating! I get so close then have a couple of bad races and then it’s back down to 1.4/1.5k. Iracing is great fun can’t beat it 🏁
I agree with everything you say about rating systems in racing games, and not just IRacing.
My only question is - the people with high ratings - are they truly there to enjoy the race??
We will never know.
Thanks for the video, take care.
I have 1300 iR and i'm having fun!
such a brilliant vid, and an eye opener, got stuck on fixed ferrari close to 3k but not enjoying it, need to move back to skippy, VRS or something else.
Good advise!
I do quite a bit of drunk driving but on the other hand also care about my irating. It's a bit of a weird situation..
In a system where losing IR is disproportionate to gaining it, chasing IR will be a frustrating experience in the long run.
Enjoy good races when they happen, don't reflect on IR losses when you get punted.
Smurf accounts are blowing the (mostly 2nd) split system to bits too.
Great video JW! RedPill the world! o7
Around 2k is my sweet spot. Not too much dumb or noobs shooting everybody. Clean and fun close racing. But not too high level so I want feel struggling and pushing to follow the pace
Truer words have never been spoken.
2200 irating, absolutely easy to compete against others at that level in a toyota gr86, even though i barely drive it.
also no chance against others at the same level in gt4 cars, always at least 0.5s slow per minute laptime.
Nice video seems very much like the one Ben At LeBroca sim racing put out last week 😜 but I guess not all content can be 100% original
I do think CR Racing did something similar too, few days ago 🤔 Nice video.
Thanks so much for this. I've never played iracing before. Don't think I will (based on the cost) but I think every sim racing title should have a rating on your profile for every car and every track. So your rating might be 1000 in a mx-5 but may well be 500 in a Ferrari gt3. Same with track, 1000 based on your performance around Spa might be 1000, whereas Imola is 500. That way, whatever it is yoh focus on more, will have you have better rating in something you drive less, so when driving gt3, which you haven't done so much, would put you in a lower split.
Its complete SH**. You can be running a clean racing but assholes will smash into you... or like what just happened to me... i was running a race.. spun out.. The guy well behind me had TONS of time and space to slow down.. or avoid me entirely.. instead he smashed into me. then hes stuck on me. What he decided to do was then throttle it and turned one collision into 3 instantly. completely destroying my chance at a irating improvement.
It might be great when you finally get out of the pits of hell.. but its complete crap aand feels impossible to get out of this hell. Graphics suck and the cars and tracks are a complete rip off. aim not very impressed at the moment. And they cant even simulate how a car drives on grass.. so hard to say if anything else is even moderately similar to the real cars.
ACC is a far better game in most ways
I was in a race the other day with the lowest being 200 and the highest being 5000, was the biggest spread ive seen by far
Was it super late models or SK modifieds or one of the small oval series?
@@P_ounds was the truck race at Dover
It probably wouldn’t be too hard to give an average rating for each discipline but rate each series/cars individually as you enter them.
Once I hit over 1500k, I realized the massive skill gap of the aliens and top splits. Suddenly podiums were very difficult to qualify for. Now I'm practicing the track a week in advance and really learning how to squeeze those tenths of a second and it's brilliant. Can't wait to consistently face top splits. It's motivating and humbling.
That‘s the spirit! A lot of people here have no idea, what a non-alien has to invest to get to competetive lap times (not even including the racecraft/experience).
Being on a 4k+ in a specific series, I still encounter aliens that nevertheless shove off another 0.5 to 1sec compared to my times, no matter what I invest in practice/learning. But these „aliens“ are far fewer than most guys here think. 90% of labelled aliens are just regular guys doing more practicing and are willing to go a certain extra mile.
I totally agree. I enjoy a single series/car, as I enjoy practicing a circuit a few days before it’s up, just pursuing the last tenth and the “perfect” raceline. I really enjoy understanding a car, as it was my third arm. iRating it’s not important as you can compare yourself with how many practice the other people is having, how long the other people has been racing is SIMs or real life, or your intrinsic skills. Ultimately, the only trick here is time and persistence, not skills really.
Great vid mate
Yep exactly, just race. That’s what we pay for. Don’t be focused on silly numbers beside your name.
I league race mainly, and only do participation races in lobby for credits. Irating isn't top of my priority to farm as I have no desire to become pro. Sure it's a great Stat to have, but I race with 4k+ guys weekly with mine being under 2k.
I know this isn’t the video for it, but do you happen to have a video on your ffb settings for rfactor2, or fov on their new UI? .. thanks
I really need to get out of the bottom split. So dangerous down here. But also I ain't no alien so I don't want a 4000+ iRating or I'd just finish last ever race.
Just repeatedly do the same race untill you really know the car and track.
You could do 6 lap races with AI repeatedly and keep turning there difficulty up , that way you will learn how to get good at the first 4 laps which is where most people crash and then lose it.
To be honest mx5 and some of the other rookie cars are a totall crash fest better off driving like formula V or Skippy to gain raiting.
I just look after my SR , if I’m safe to be around and enjoying the racing then all is good , IR will take care of itself .
Good video but it will fall on deaf ears of many iracers.Most of them are obsessed with stats like IR & SR.
My top tip is you will get better finishes in races if you do the following.
Race number less than 15 (top of your split)qualify as high as you can.
Race number at bottom of split skip qualifying & start at the back.Qualifying higher up if you are towards bottom of your split makes the race a struggle from Lap 1.
Can't spell Irate without iRating
vanity system says it all
Irating is a measure of participation, SR is a measure of skill and race craft
SR doesn't measure skill , it just measures incidents per corner you can be a god awfull simracers with terrible race craft.
irating is elo based but due to a bunch of factors again doesn't really reflect skill very well.
Basically if a person has 7k+ iR they are probably racing at pace / driving to a basic skill level.
Anything lower than 7k and somone is probably driving really badly has massive skill holes.
I say this as a 4-5k iracer that is fully aware of how I'm crap and how broken iracing is.
@@GamerMuscleVideos I'm a crap racer too, but when I'm in a pack I'd rather be in there with a 2k IR / 2+ Sr driver than a 9k IR / 1.nuthing Sr driver.😀 Against the 9k driver I know I'm going to lose, but against the 2k driver at least I might survive👍😆
I race alot in usf2k I am often in top split with only 1500 irating and gain almost nothing even if the avrage is 2000 irating
Do they consider SR when matching up splits? If not, they should.
Not really aside from some series needing a specifc SR/License to join.
But in reality SR is really easy to farm even when a driver is really unsafe when they are actually racing people / in traffic.
Vast majority of iracers can't even hold the cars / catch a slight slide so shouldn't really even have a licence at all if it was actually a proper licence system. ( In fairness iracing physics and FFB are really unforgiving for what would just be a super easy thing to deal with in most Sims and real life)
SR and the licence system in iracing should just be considered a way to discourage unsafe / totally wreckless driving not really a fine tines system.
It sort of works but to be honest what stops most people outright wrecking in iracing is the risk of getting banned.
yeah, need iR by car or series.
What happened to your into music GamerMuscle? When I watch your videos I want to feel like a swashbuckling disney-pirate going on an adventure! Put the pirate music back! :)
I'll get the pirate music back soon ⛵⛵
What it comes down to is, i racing is a game, like any other game; it just doesn’t matter that much.
I avg irating 1,200-2,000 I have a t150 thrystmaster wheel and the plastic pedals 2 no clutch pedal,the equipment you use is also a huge difference in weather you are 5000 or 1000 irating driver even though people don't want to admit it.
I know a bunch of simracers / eSports drivers that win top split races with a G25.
Most of iracing is repetitio and repeating inputs you can do that with any wheel on the market.
Better wheels do make it less hard and way more fun though and esear to catch slides of driving more aggressively.
@@GamerMuscleVideos Which esport drivers use G25 with stock pedals?
Do get irating but don't get irating 😍
I don't see any problem with it's mentioned on this video.
Only reason I care about any sort of rating is because I want to drive certain cars lmao can’t without a hood saftey rating
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I’m interested in knowing how much time people spend in offline test sessions.
Better to practise with people so you have a baseline
It's the old issue of matchmaking as old as time itself. Attaching self worth to SR. Wether it is league of legends, Overwatch or Counterstrike, the system is only there so you can enjoy online lobbies against other people with similar skill so you're not constantly matched against bots or gods. Just enjoy the game. You look much cooler to others when you're having a good time, laughing with friends than you do sweating hard every race hoping to get a girlfriend off your high irating. Which is actually pathetic
Dont you need the Iratings to bump you up to the better racing groups to get to the top levels of Iracing? Not sure, but dont they classify drivers in A,B,C,D groups and you need one of these ratings to to get into lobby/league races. If we have a lower rating, just cant enter the race if set to a certain level. Plus we have to do good or behave to be able to go to the next level up. That is what I saw several years ago, dont know if it has changed. I never did Iracing, but watched some Nascar Iracing a few years back from a member. He hasnt posted for the past couple of years.
ive been in top split and i have 1.8kIR
Congrats on getting your B licence back 🤣
Oval irating is bs lol been trying to race draft masters and while most racers a decent and can hold a line but there is always that small few that seem to be able to just take everyone out making you drop rating really fast lol
Ever noticed its only 3 or 4k + players who say "irating doesnt matter"... once they get out of the cesspool of low IR
1.5-2k it will put people in first and second split of popular series. Driving is just as bad in all splits for different reasons to be honest.
Basically most of the good racing in iracing is largely down to simply having the luck to be with drivers that have basic race craft or who know the limit of the car and there skill.
high irating does mean a lot for aliens. But for normal ppl like me, should care less about it so that we can have more fun
I thought the title said “Why Iracing doesn’t matter”, never clicked a video faster in my life
Will a higher iRating help me pull hot chicks at the local night club?
For sure , irating over 3k is prity sexy for men and women
You made the mistake there "irating generally reflects you being better or worse". It reflects your level of commitment to the game, that's really it. If you concede that it's just a game, it's nowhere near being realistic enough to use a a training tool outside of base development of racing techniques and the more time you are prepared to spend tuning and practicing any particular vehicle or track is a reflection of your results. Hence, I don't take it too seriously, despite being a real life race engineer, data analyst, driver and driving coach I CBF spending a bunch of time trying to find the exploits in the physics model to advance my irating which is just graphical representation of a bunch of 1's and 0's. iRating has no bearing on real world driving, I absolutely laugh myself silly when I see people say they are better than real drivers because they have a high irating. It's not how it works. Once you get a licence, and a car and pay all the money to prepare, enter and race the car, you have all of those financial and psychological factors introduced plus the very real possibility of death or debilitating injury and the "exploit the physics" technique used by high level sim racers doesn't cut it because unless you have a billion dollars and no responsibilities, you can't keep going out and crashing the car.
Yes better or worse at iracing ... Which is a specifc video game. I'm way way better in AC,RF2,R3E than iracing for example 😆 mostly due to me driving off ffb.
iRating doesn't matter. Nothing matters. We all will feel the cold embrace of death one day. That's why everyone should play Assetto Corsa instead.
aaand... 400 llikes.. ur welcome.. still no strim..
I was about to downvote because iRating is crucial for iRacing. Not because of its pure value, but because it does what it should do: match you with drivers that are around your skill level, provided there are several splits. The number itself doesn't matter much, it's the experience that provides. If you are over, say 2.5-3k irating, you'll be top split every time, so there it doesn't matter, and if it is under 1000, you'll be bottom split.
even with low ratings people shouldn't really fixate on it , they should just race and drive clean.
The real problem with irating when your in the lower splits its that most of those drivers are pretty bad. They crash into you, punt you off the road....etc, your irating plummets because your always ending up at bottom or of the field. So if you're a clean but slower driver, you automatically never go anywhere. So, if your good right out the box then good for you. If your slower, but clean then your stuck in the lower tiers forever.
There's nothing worse in iRacing than having 10 top 5 finishes with 0x's in a row.
Yea mate i beat 4500 ir's all day ey an im 2300 once i worked out ya can play the system an milk ya ir i stopped caring, also if ir doesn't want you to win a race or series you wont',,, you'll just dropp out mid race with perfect internet signal ;-)
FALSE. iRating is how you get into better races.
That's not true , top split is often the worst.
@GamerMuscleVideos that's opinion.
Clearly, higher iRating races have better drivers with higher skill levels. Going up from 1000 to 1200 is a noticeable jump in skill and driving technique.
Wrecking happens. What professional races have zero wrecks or incidents? You've seen pro drivers pile up on the green flag before irl, yes? Those are the professionals. The elite... and they still get involved in dumb wrecks and make dumb moves.
Also, it's sim racing. The cars aren't real, and there is zero repair bill, so drivers don't have the mentality of "I better not wreck." I see pro drivers send it a lot more mpre in game than in real life because they can test the limits of cars without the real damage. Its a different mentality for sim racing.
But also, look how verstappen drives irl. He drives like he's in a sim. The other drivers drive like they can't wreck, like a real race. Verstappen would be in more wrecks if more drivers opposed him like in sim racing.
Stop trying to drive like real life. Drive like verstappen. Take risks. That's what everyone else is doing. It sounds like your expecting this full simulation and others realize it's still just a game. Your mentality is what's hurting you.