NYC Installs Cameras… To Tax The Poor
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- Опубликовано: 31 янв 2024
- New cameras recently were set up in locations the city promised would be free from what many are calling a tax on the poor - nyc’s congestion pricing scheme to ticket drivers daily for entering manhattan. The new cameras apparently wont be used to charge tolls… for now.
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NYC residents paid their taxes, so that the city can use it to pay for the cameras, so that residents can pay more taxes…
Only lazy residents who are lazy to use public transport and their legs.
@@val_inv6239 I dare you to take any bus or train at 8-8:30 am
Waiting for people to start flying in so they don't have to be taxed. I predict that this will extent to bicycle riders at some point in the future. Imagine needing a licence plate on bicycles.
Keep voting Democrat
so those fuseboxs full of servers and things are shure in a good position to "malfunction" critically.
They sure put up those cameras in record time. Fixing a pothole? Nah, that can wait.
So true 💯
Of course man the cameras will make them money, fixing a pot hole that will improve your life doesn’t make them anything so that will get set on the back burner for all of eternity
or they never get fixed the amount of tires I've had to change smdfh and when reporting it to 311 they dont do shit about it!
Facts
Holy crap, that's unbelievable. I think there is race between New York and California to see who can fleece their citizens the most
They have to they are not generating growing income….
It is called Communism, It has been around a long time, Government Taxes workers to pay for non worker Leaches. Now I want to say I have no problem providing for our Vets, and People born with Problems and are not able to Work. But People who just lay around and are able to work Well this is not right.
As someone from Boston, whenever a government says “don’t worry, all the money is going to public transportation” or “all the money will be used for roads and public infrastructure,” don’t believe them. It will end up going to the police and to install more cameras to expand the program.
or more likely they cut the budget for transit so the difference is made up by the tolls and transit funding stays the same.
get a bill; forget the bill; reader reads your tag again; police impound said vehicle; you pay, toll, tow impound, plus fine; this will be a wonderful revenue generator to milk the middle some more
infastructure😂lmao
@@ronblack7870 usually how it goes, fucking sickening it is
Yeah... Like I am all for promoting public transit... but THIS is just bull shit no matter how you look at it.
They're not incentivizing people to use the subway they are incentivizing working people to leave NYC for good and create a worker shortage
Maybe. But it's make the locals leave so that the migrants get job accommodation maybe due to migrant surge
Just break the cameras
@@jzm2293That’s never going to work in their favor.
i already don't commute for the most part. i get one metro card for two months, $20, and then use it rarely.
@@troyrager1352 french have burned theirs en masse during yellow jackets strikes 😅
NYC is doing everything in its powers to drive its citizens out of the city. Bravo!
True to being in illegals.
Yeah, that's literally the idea. Depopulation of cities has been the goal since the end of WW2.
It's way easier keeping a population stupid and dependent if they are spread out.
Also, the US Litteraly can't feed itself anymore so there is a nother reason to force folks rural
Also during war times cities are the absolute weakest link in any nations armor.
That’s their plan
why not do what the english did
Omg 😂 They'll put license plates on our forehead and charge us for existing
That's the plan
I'd go to war before i let someone brand me like cattle or a slave.
wouldn't be surprise
You could just walk if you're literally in NYC. It's free
What a great idea!!! 💡
This sends a message from the well-to-do to others. "Stay out of my part of the city. If you're not of my class, stay out. If you are visiting, stay out." I escaped from NY 58 years ago. Never looked back. Never regretted my decision.
If you are visiting, bring your suburban driving habits by paying for it. Or take the subway like the locals. I think street parking should be paid too. We subsidizing car owners too much already.
As A Texan. Get your balls back NY! They tried to install red light cameras in houston a few years ago. WE TORE THEM DOWN!
Texas needs more migrants
Same here in uk, people been cutting them down and spray painting the cameras.
Thank you for your service! God bless Texas
@@edmundblackaddercoc8522animals!
They were destroying the red light cams in Chicago too for a while, but it seems like people gave up
I don't know who needs to hear this but there's 5 lb of copper in those things
Lol absolute mad lad.
The america is turning into communist china. All signs have been pointing to a tyrannical and dystopian world. We the people need to all unite and stand up against all this nonsense! Take them down! We don't want any more cameras monitoring and tracking us! Privacy these days is becoming very scarce. We need our privacy back! Rip and destroy those stupid communist cameras!
Copper is extremely beneficial for humans, wear copper jewelry, drink from copper cups (Temu, every store gets their supplies from them, Google lens everything you look at), it's incredible for us❤️
Hell, the servers in that box are probably worth allot more.
@@CaptRR sure but copper is way easier to collect and sell. esp if u melt it into bars.
When they said robbery with no gun that's what it is
Easy solution strike
Highway Robbery
Instead of this toll tax on commuters because the MTA is useless, how about stopping subway fare jumpers. They lose an unbelievable amount of money from this, mismanagement and management theft.
Why not both...oh wait that's already happening
Because the fare jumpers are the poor oppressed peoples so can't go after them, that's racist!
But that would require them to do their jobs correctly
Cuz its easier to screw over the average law abiding citizen then to put into effect ways to stop turnstile jumpers.
NYPD officers cannot stop the fare jumpers until they lay off the Dunkin Doughnuts.
If you can't fix it with a budget of $19B, then it's never going to get fixed.
The budget is a mess now paying for Illegal's
exactly
My question is: why did they spend 12 billions on illegals? These politicians are corrupt
It’s actually $107,000,000,000
And now you know why they are allowing all the immigrants in, making cities financially fail and forced to adopt surveillance as a business
NY is becoming more dystopian as the years go by.
So is the UK
And that’s why people who were able to leave have done so.
Cameras are easy breAk
Yeah as a person who loves dystopian movies and lives in New York City, I can 100% agree with you.
Naw this is their Utopia.
This is one of the things I can stand about living in the city. The government is always looking for ways to get into your pockets.
Who did you vote for
Can’t*
@@silvermediastudio I don’t live in the city anymore.
As opposed to living out in the country where the federal government pays for your roads. Yeah I can see why you'd prefer to get welfare instead of paying for the infrastructure you use.
@@rafterman5072 so what now you live in the suburbs or country and still vote the way you did in the city?
The condition of the subway proves that much of the money is being funneled into the general fund for lots of other things!
Remember when the income tax was first created in 1913 and they told us it would only be a 1% tax and they'd use the money to prevent inflation from happening?
This reminds me of that.
Pepperidge Farms remembers
This is about shaking us down
income tax was one of the more progressive taxes... this toll camera one however is one of the most regressive taxes....
Don’t forget it was a temporary thing
Na I ain't that old sorry don't remember, was born in 1977😂😂
the fact that the MTA can blow 19.2 Billion dollars and still be terrible shows that adding another 3 billion won't do anything
Well, except for the corruption and siphoning of funds...
Where the fuck is all this money going?
Sounds like you have some Russian style corruption going on in NYC.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp Or maybe Russia has some NYC-style corruption. Or even worse, Ukraine-style corruption.
@@MiketheNerdRanger@MiketheNerdRanger If you have to ask, then you aren't plugged into American society.
What the MTA isn't telling you is that 50% of all revenue goes to servicing debt, courtesy of former governor Pataki. Congestion pricing is a sham.
Imagine coming up on traffic and it’s like hey would you like to sit in traffic for a price 😂😂😂😂😂
So instead of stopping toll hoppers in the subway, we are going to tax drivers who have nothing to do with the reason that the subway is failing? Very NY.
Stopping toll hoppers would require police. They hate the police and now let them get beat up with no consequence.
MTA is the reason the subway is failing. Not toll hoppers
All it takes is a bigger one sided door but no we now have to milk more out of an already dry cow
My comment about the police was deleted. Interesting.
liberals think stopping toll hoppers is racist
Paying an extra fee to the government to drive on a public road already paid for with tax dollars is double taxation.
Bingo!
So? I don’t live in New York but I am double taxed.
Try tripple or quadruple, or quintuple taxed. Your money that was taxed by the irs, is taxed again by inflation, only to be taxed for the roads via gas price tax, only to also be taxed via city and state tax, only to then be taxes again by this device.
@@Masterballsackwoodthis statement right here says it all. Too true!
If the road was fully paid by general taxes, the 55% of NYC residents who don't own a car would be paying for infrastructure they don't use. When you use a good or service provided by the government, you either pay for it in full or someone else does. I, for one, don't think NYC drivers or trucking companies are in need of any welfare out of my pocket. Think of it like paying for a subway ticket.
When He showed those servers I knew this was some "Person of Interest" type stuff
Remember when the Politicians said as soon as the roads are paid off they will get rid of the Toll Booths? And We laughed and laughed. Yeah I remember that.
I remember when I first learned of that BS as a kid. As an adult I've realized this is just where everything is headed, criminalizing/monitoring/regulating/charging as many aspects of human existence as possible.
We just got rid of toll booths! Now have cameras tho. 1 step forward 10 steps back. The dem way
🔫🇮🇱🐍💯🤡Noooooo your wrongggggg. This money is for food, healthcare, and housing for illegal Immigrant 💯🤡🗑️ New York the world is laughing at you!!!!! Get rid of your woke ideology!!!!!! Get rid of your mayor!!!!! Eric Adam’s is laughing at you🤡🗑️🥷🛖🐍🇮🇱🪮
Income tax was supposed to be temporary
TS FREEKEN NYC, ITS SUPPOSED TO BE CONJESTED. MOVE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT. PEOPLE COMPLAIN, THEN BIG GOV COME UP WITH DARCONAIN WAYS OF CONTROLLING US, WHY? BECAUSE WE COMPLAIN THEN VOTE IN THE SAME SCAMMERS. I MEAN, COME ON PEOPLE. LOL..
This is exactly the kind of thing that made people snap and say they have had enough long ago. If the modern world did not make it impossible to unite and overthrow corrupt governments I believe it would happen a lot. This makes me sick and I don’t even live or work in NY. I’m angry for those people, we are the same. Every year the government makes it harder and harder to just live (if your not rich) by doing things like this. My hope is one day someone is able to get everyone on the same frequency and realize that we actually have more power than the government could ever imagine. The reason we cannot use it is they purposely keep us cutting each others throats for a little more, a little more to survive easier. Imagine if for example just a fraction of us refused to buy gas for a couple days? The impact would be stunning. We cannot however because they make it so if we did that we would not be able to get to work, and make money to live. There is a reason it’s so difficult, it is built in the system and I’m so sick of it. Someone with charisma needs to galvanize the people and start putting a stop to idiots constructing tolls because they want to put fuel in their plane.
Ladies first
Register your car in another state, never pay the New York fee. I did this in my old car a while back, every time i drove in CA i went through toll roads, then sent me threatening letters demanding payment, I never did pay, and nothing happened as a result.
if the government says nothing to worry about ....YOU BETTER BE DAMNED WORRIED
Then stop yapping and overthrow it or something. Can Americans only whine nowadays? I think those Cameras are good. I think Americans can only f*ck up when left to their own device so a bit of monetary punishment to get you back in line is good for you. You as an American are not intelligent enough to survive on your own, so obey and be quiet.
Ban car from city use bicycle , bus and train.
The same people who support congestion pricing will be the first ones to complain when their cost of living goes up
I’m assuming it’s mostly politicians that want this so their cost of living never really goes up. If cost of living rises they just vote for a raise for themselves. Also I’m sure they have government plates so taxpayers probably pay all the fees they acquire unless it’s on their personal vehicles.
Just imagine the store owners absolutely have to go drive into the city everyday. So that's 420 bucks a month, 5k a year. They will absolutely raise prices.
@@its_jimbooh_no6572it’s also their useful idiots who advocate for this
And they'll still vote for the same politicians who set this up.
I dont think the millionaires gaf about $15 daily
Used to install these in a video game called Tropico 6. Now they’re reality. In general there’s just too many people to ‘fix’ traffic, housing and pollution
Presidente, your people starve... 🤣🤣🤣
They did 10 years ago throughout central Florida about 10 years ago. And now they are gone, as we did not like it, because it was perfectly clear it was for revenue reasons. The citizens hated it. Really hated it!
I grew up in NYC. Anyone still living there, paying thru the nose for roaches and rats and crime and and and, is a bit challenged imo.
Its the most walkable and least car dependable city in america
That doesn’t disqualify anything he said. As an ex New Yorker I am in total agreement w him
That's because in the 1980s they started with that I love New York I love the Big Apple facade brainwashing,,,All of the truth about it will never be portrayed about it in their movies of Hollywood or New York
Or stuck with no way to afford to live and leave at the same time!
@@quetz6335so what? It’s also shared with millions of people…yuck, it’s dirty, mentally ill zombies walking around, loud noises , expensive rent no way you justify this way of living
That toll will be paying MTA pensions and no funds ever make it to maintaining the MTA.
This guy is 100% right. MTA knows how to waste money, then take money from it's tax payers. Millions of dollars are taken from the tax payers to support an MTA system that is operating at a lose every year.
Like always
And nice fat pay raises they'll be giving themselves.
The stuff with APC on it is not a server. It's a battery backup for the cameras and the 1 maybe server that is used to store the images before they are uploaded someplace else.
Cash, DONT GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS about the license plates on your head
$15 extra dollars every day??? Wtf? That's absolutely insane. Politicians mismanaged money, so the public transport sucks but they expect new yorks to fix it? Insanity
Remember that the liberal left has never seen a tax dollar that they didn't like.
Exactly. $15 is almost half the cost of a weekly unlimited. Very unfair. You could argue it as an incentive for people to take the subway to save money, but they haven't made improvements to prepare for an increase in ridership. Putting more strain on a dilapidated, mismanaged system will only make things worse for everyone who takes the subway.
It is 15 per day, right? He said 15 every time you enter. Both are ridiculous but the latter is incredibly ridiculous
and watch them charge $15 to leave as well. Then NJ drivers also have to pay $18 for the tunnel, and then the NJ turnpike has tolls. They should just make office work remote. Not sure why they were pushing people to go back to the offices with all these tolls.
hey they need more money to invade others so live with it
when a local or national government is telling the people that there is nothing to worry about, this is when the people should start to worry about...
Exactly
Yup there's always an hidden agenda
What if they just eliminate all personal vehicles except for emergency and city workers and just have free public transit paid by the tax payers in manhattan? that'd be the smart way to do it.
The one flaw is.....soon there will be NO taxpayers in Manhattan.
It will not charge registered taxi drivers, only private personal owned cars.
Where I live, they installed red light cameras. They didn't last a single night. They were found smashed on the side of the road. They kept replacing them, and someone just kept smashing them. Finally, the authorities put down speed bumps, which I'm ok with, at least it slows traffic down without picking your pockets... New York is in deep trouble
BRAVO!
As someone who does major projects as a contractor for NYCT/MTA, we will all be dead before the subway is modernized. I put my life on this statement.
No no, you see, all they have to do is change the definition of what "modernized" means, and then they can officially declare that it has already in fact been "modernized".
It will start collapsing first. I don't see it being modernized.
... but wait! Didn't you put modern LED lights in the subway cars?
We seen this in London, once it starts it expands . The cameras WILL be used to charge for traveling anywhere and by the mile. That is the plan.
This is strikingly similar to the Philly sugary drink tax. Philly was told "It's for the kids." After the law was passed, the truth came out that it was actually to pay for porky pensions of high ranking school board people. In terms of installing the cameras, it seems to be a case of "it's easier to get into the room fully if you already have one foot in the door already."
Keep in mind that over the years,the state has given the MTA multiple grants of billions of dollars, and no improvements were made, instead multiple articles eventually came out showing waste, fraud, and abuse. Also consider that even after hurricane sandy, the MTA got an additional 8 billion to make upgrades to ensure that it would not flood again, but no upgrades ever got made.
Only the L train was upgraded. All the other trains were doomed when it rained really hard a few months ago. I was stuck on the N train for hours going home from work.
Sounds like California, they put a 40 cent gas tax, so oh to fix the roads, sick mofo's raised 40 billion in gas taxes, what did they do, put it into a general fund then robbed it, no roads were ever fixed, rinse and repeat, its one big ponzi scam, and the people are help less to do anything about it, except move from there demorat crap holes.
Giving money to themselves
And no impeachments nor anyone being held accountable.. Hmm its almost like a money grab or money laundering scam?🤔
"People will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think." - Aldous Huxley (Brave New World)
When the city says, don’t worry about it, you need to worry about it!
You can be sure the government is doing something when it's officially denied.
Sounds a lot like "We're from the government and we're to help." 😐
Theyre literally enslaving us
I'm a life long New Yorker and I can tell you this the MTA wastes so much money it is absolutely absurd, I've witnessed this 1st hand!!!!!!! The last time the elevated F train structure by my home was painted had to be about 15 to 17 years ago and more rust is visible than paint (They don't maintain anything that is why every time there is a problem it costs a fortune to fix) on top of that the entire subway system is filthy and unsafe. IMO the City, State & MTA go all go to hell, the only thing they are good at is reaching into us the taxpayers pocket.
Same deal in London ,everybody has had enough of the thieving from the Gov ,so many people are cutting these Cameras down in London .Hopefully NYC Residents should do the same
Also nice hat. Here in Sweden, they put up cameras like 15 years ago to enter the city. They said that it was NOT a congestion tax, no no, it was only for "dirty" vehicles, not for so called "environmentally friendly" vehicles. The citizens voted against it in a referendum conjoined with the normal elections. The politicians didn't care and called the referendum not to be absolute but merely indicative.
Then they called it a congestion tax and put it on everyone. Also they put the congestion tax onto the motorway around the city effectively making this a tollway. And now they have started on banning non-rich people from driving on some roads in the city.
I can't drive my small 3 cylinder car down Hornsgatan, but if you have the money to buy a sports car with a V12 that has a higher co2 print, you can drive to your hearts consent. This is just to tax the poor.
Wages aren't going up, food costs more, rent costs way more, metrocards only go up despite no change to the subway quality, now they're charging you to drive. We always joked about reaching the point of being taxed to breathe but at this point it almost feels like a reality with how much more we keep getting nickel and dime'd. It's quickly become unsustainable for anyone making a median salary to even exist here.
One of my professors in college told everyone in his class they should move to Jersey and commute via used car to a job in Manhattan to save the most money possible in their 20's. Now you're losing an extra 3-4k a year from these tolls if you do this. It's always take from the bottom, and not the top.
The subway used to be reliable when i was a kid and in my teens. Now its a shit show. Nearly everyday to and from work i deal with some kind of delay or disruption to the system, more times than not.
Don't feel bad. In Chicago, the city doesn't even own it's streets. That belongs to the banks.
re: "It's always take from the bottom, and not the top."
Not always in all cases true. Have you seen what segment (percent) of society pays the most in income tax?
the sad part, we are forced into wishing everything would explode to start over. people say this is unsustainable. i argue opposite. they know exactly what they are doing (boiling frog) and will prop up this rotten system long long after you and i are here. in the eyes of our controllers, they purposely want the middle man gone. extreme haves & have-nots only.
And there’s no way to enter the city without paying for bridge or tunnel. Which is another $15. So that’s like 8k a year minimum just for tolls on work days.
Just tell the tweakers there's catalytic converters inside those server boxes. They'll be gone overnight.
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😂😂😂
We need some young men in hoodies to fix these cameras, and other things like this.
Why nobody talks about the sheer amount of cars on the roads and that congestion is getting much worse every year?
Do you know why congestion is getting much worst every year? It's not more cars. The city has intentionally creating the congestion. Notice every major traffic artery they have reduced the lanes available for cars with bike lanes, buse lanes, pedestrian lanes, and right turns only, left turns only, and so on. That is why we have traffic.
If they suspend driving privileges for illegals, traffic will go down by like 50%.
The subway system will NEVER get better. I am 72 yrs. old and have been riding the subway for 60 yrs. It was only slightly cleaner back in the 1950s but not necessarily better. Criminal mismanagement is the real problem.
Promise of subway improving is just a scapegoat. It will never been touched or improved, it will always suck and be filthy, run late, being unreliable, and smell like hot garbage.
I was shocked when I visited about a decade past and it smelled so awful, you'd think you were transported to a dingy third-world station not one of America's biggest metros.
Criminal mismanagement.
They are crooks. And how u hire someone from overseas to run a NYC public transit system. Something is not right here. Where are the LAWYERS??? WHERE ARE THE LAWYERS??? Fighting on behalf of the people.
Thats any transit system
@@jdmtechllc6589not any at all, check metro in Moscow , art gallery! Clean, no piss, cameras, not criminal, safe, on time, trains every 50 seconds rush hour, every 2-3 min, every 4-5 min on the weekends in far zones
@@jdmtechllc6589 Nope, just nyc its a garbage dump people sleep on the trains and use them as toilets
If people don't think they're not going to try to expand this to downtown brooklyn, western Queens, or the rest of Manhattan, they're fooling themselves. The MTA also has three other revenue streams that come to them and it's still not fixed. This isn't going to do it either when the head of the MTA is making just north of 400k per year.
Yup. And get this. Their is a station manager in every single station who is never there. When you see MTA workers, working in the subways, they are either not doing anything at all, or you have like 5-8 guys standing around watching one guy work. It never fails. The MTA knows how to waste money and overpay for renovations and or construction projects and take longer to complete it. They can fix or construct something in 2-3 months and draw it out to anywhere from 6months to a year.
Tax money from all over NY state is pumped into the MTA by Albany, and the system is still a dangerous mess. Where is all that money?
@@DavidAlmodovar-eo8dgthis argument is stupid because either you are an mta auditor or you’re talking out of your ass. What if I hyperfocused on you at work? Are you diligently using every available second? If not shut up
DON'T ASK 😢
Leaving that land fill excuse of a city has made life 100000000 times better even if i need a car
in the UK, similar cameras were installed, and people were painting over them, breaking them, cutting the wires, etc. Now doing those things are illegal but they're still doing it. Also, if the MTA simply cracked down on fare evaders, they wouldn't need the congestion pricing!
As a non-motorist, I suggest the fines for small infractions like fare evasion, littering, etc., should be put forth to pay for mass transportation in New York City. The traffic camera systems installed on the Manhattan avenues and streets are placed to rip-off the driving public and cheat the citizens. Cash Jordan, I like the way you put the light on the subject. The rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting poorer. I hope a change from this anticipation will come.
We have these in london you gonna see people tearing them down just like they did in London
I was thinking the same thing. They even charge you there for parking on your own block they will soon bring that here. I notice whatever laws london has nyc follows.
I remember being in London back in 2001 when I was little and they were not giving out shopping bags at the grocery store ..... years later nyc is doing this foolishness. Now we have to purchase plastic garbage bags when before we used the plastic grocery bags to get rid of trash. Smh
I hope so , 🙏
The america is turning into communist china. All signs have been pointing to a tyrannical and dystopian world. We the people need to all unite and stand up against all this nonsense! Take them down! We don't want any more cameras monitoring and tracking us! Privacy these days is becoming very scarce. We need our privacy back!
They not going to tear it down like London. Nobody wants to go to jail.
You are essentially already in a jail. An open air jail. Prison is just more confined... this is war at our footsteps.
I’ve said it for years now NYCs slogan should be “NYC move here so we can fine you”
But I paid a lot more fines at Bloomberg times , , they were ticketing everything. Ticket on ticket, tow my cars, .. now I barely pay any tickets at all
Yeah, cause the police don't do anything anymore.
Weird that they don't use this technology on the border
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😂😂😂right?!!!
They actually do !
According to induced demand, I don't believe that increasing the price of driving in Manhattan will mean traffic increases in the surrounding area. I don't think that cargo trucks / emergency vehicles should be tolled, but instead all the tolling should be done on people who just commute in and out of the city by car. NYC has one of the most expansive light rail / subway systems in all of North America. That's something that should be taken advantage of. The more people who ride it, the more attention it's going to get and the better it will become.
They probably have the "out going" cameras to make sure you leave. I couldn't imagine having to face this!
They need to start auditing the people/institutions spending our tax dollars instead of reaching further into our pockets!
You're a thought criminal, aren't you? Don't speak out or question help stop thought crimes.
Support your local Thought Police
Any talk about government mismanagement anywhere in a "Progressive" city like NYC or SF is ALWAYS shot down by accusations that the people who are espousing those views are openly or secretly conservative. Not wanting your tax dollars to be stolen or blown on useless shit IS NOT a partisan issue ffs, it's just an easy way out of culpability for the people who are either crooks or don't want to do anything about it because they're lazy.
Yes, the tax cattle fund their own misery and assault via their literal life force. The fruit of their labor.
They tried this in britain , but the pedestrians just tore the cameras down and burn them out with lasers
Hint to my fellow Americans in NYC❤
You make it sound like London (i.e. Britain) doesn't still currently have congestion charging cameras and its citizens aren't actively tearing them down and burning them out with lasers.
@@olamilekanakala7542 It is certainly a war of attrition.
usa citizens are weak, they would do this
My husband just got a fine in London on a Sunday even so…
As a NYC resident, I think the congestion pricing is a horrible idea and unfair to city workers. Them trying to deter driving and encourage using public transportation at a time when the subways are at the most dangerous as they have been in decades is ridiculous. Pollution concerns are a nice cover up for the city just trying to make more money. There are enough cameras for everything else that they generate enough revenue. They just need to disperse and appropriate funds in a more logical way. It is expensive enough to live in the city now; we don't need to dish out more money bc the city cannot manage what we already pay in a way that is beneficial to residents.
There is no free lunch 😂❤😂❤😂
MTA says its too expensive to put the barriers to protect riders but so quick to install massive amount of toll cameras. Scam. This is why I left NYC.
Scam there’s no way it’s easier to install camera on a road that carries vehicles weighing many tons and designed to hold traffic lights than instal massive glass doors on a 100 year old subway station and install the signaling required for the train doors to line up
NYC: why is everyone moving to Florida? 🤔
In a few years thats where i'll be@@bruceh4180
Why are drivers paying to upgrade the fkin trains??!! Increase the train fares if that’s the case.
In their defense, the NYC Subway is 120 years old with 472 stations, the most subway stations in the world. In order to install new infrastructure (station barriers), you need to replace the old stuff. So if people complaining about barriers to protect riders and other things about the subway, then I should think people should be for Congestion Prices. If it worked for London, then why not NYC.
We already are charged just for existing. You mean we'll be charged even MORE for...existing...
The outbound ones are to make sure the vehicle leaves, so it can be taxed when it comes back in.
You could, maybe with a group of friends, park a car in the zone and one out of the zone, then just walk past the toll.
They got to pay for all those asylum-seekers benefits.
The 3 billion dollars to take care of the illegal immigrants because the city is breaking federal immigration laws has to come from somewhere.
The money doesn't go to asylum seekers.
Well the money the subway needs isn’t coming from the city because they have all their money away to asylum seekers. So indirectly it is.
It would be nice if they could tax the illegals an illegally here tax. We know that would never happen.
@@atrailmckinley4786They sure aren't paying for themselves. They're being provided for by the taxpayers of NY. Just because cash may not go into their pockets doesn't mean they aren't cost the taxpayers.
The fees will not be used to fix anything. It will go into the pockets of those who are behind these policies. Crazy.
Go into the pockets of the UNIONS.
@@itsmatt2105 Unions for sure. They control NYC. The MTA if not unionized would be profitable if all trains were AI controlled and hired non-union laborers to work. Union entitlements are making all New Yorkers broke.
Philly's soda tax goes into the general fund (46%). Was supposed to go entirely to preschool programs.
It's funny how the US is slowly acting like 3rd world politicians😂
@@rosemarywilliams9969 facts!
If MTA's files go public, we will see so much corruption-that price we are paying today.
Great video Cash, keep going down this path of covering the city aside from apartments. Maybe even hire correspondents to do the dirty work.
Brits have fought this with citizens nicknamed blade runners that cut down the cameras and poles. Others block the maintenance vehicles in so they can't move.
I'm a truck driver and I deliver to NYC a fair bit. I always thought it was strange they are tolling drivers who are only there to deliver supplies.
Do you remember when they install the first cameras on the intersections in the 90’s “ to catch people running the red lights “. Is that really it’s purpose? Facial recognition is coming to take away your privacy to “ protect citizens “ is that really it’s purpose? Or total controls?
In europe, Netherlands there are some cameras that do that. Which imo is good because red light running is dangerous
I wonder how much it would cost to repair these big box’s attached to the poles attached to those eye holes on the poles.
Commits a felony illegaly entering the country. Then commits another felony by beating up cops. Then gets relaeased without bail. What a f'ed up country we have become.
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Thank you, D people !
Some aspects of this country have always been messed up. If you think this is new, you haven't been paying attention.
@@richardsteiner8992 .... You're right. But it's getting worse.
Yeah, but maybe that got billed $15 as they fled the city yesterday.
NYC is the gift that keeps on giving. You will never run out of Things to report on.
The ad that pops up a minute into this video about traffic congestion is for -- a Hyundai Tuscon! I love it! 🤣
I was completely shocked to see how similar the management and money-making method of governance in America is to what we see in Iran.
This same plan has been used as a traffic management plan in Tehran for years and managers were promised the same things that New York managers had promised: clean air, less traffic, a more suitable public transportation system, etc.
But none of the above was achieved and everything got worse:
Traffic has not changed because people have to go to their workplaces or their homes and they have no choice. And public transportation cannot serve people efficiently because of old and worn-out cars and limited and inefficient rail lines. The cost of equipping, renovating, and expanding public transportation has always been one of the challenges of the municipality in the headlines and always in a trickle-down manner.
Some people have no work in the city centers and traffic control areas, but they have to pass through it every day, for example, from the east to the west of the city in the morning to go to work and vice versa at night to return home. These groups have no choice but to bypass the traffic control area and this has resulted in very high traffic in other areas. While the highways within the traffic control area actually have very light traffic.
These two lead to more traffic and higher fuel consumption.
Finally, the price set by the municipality to enter the area has practically turned this project into a big piggy bank for the municipality, because after all these years, everyone thought of paying the cost and taking that additional cost from the end customer...
This was Tehran's experience with the traffic management plan. I hope the Americans will not suffer from it
Thank you for the useful content and the effort you make.
Snake Pliskin says: "There's NEVER been a better time to escape N.Y."
I escaped 28 years ago and never looked back.
@@user-iq6wz4wv4u This goes for L.A. too.
Need to take the United States back from these tyrants
Can't, the democrats have ruined cities, taxed residents, and removed freedoms from citizens. Now Biden has brought in 9+ million illegal immigrants and betting they will vote democrat so the democratic party can make laws and taxes unopposed for years to come..
Since entering congestion tolls starts at 5am people will try to enter before. If a car entered at 4am and left at 3pm the city can charge the toll by detecting the departure.
We have these in London, we also have a courageous group of concerned citizens who are definitely not vandalising the cameras 😉
Going into the city from jersey to do business , car or van or box truck is going to be crazy $$$.
I left in 87. Everything I grew up with is basically gone. All the mom and pop stores, the restaurants....so sad.
Yup. Everything. Only the rich can maintain stores. The very few that are left will eventually be ran out of the city as well sooner rather than later.
Exactly. I left in 1980 but used to hope to return. NFW.
"There are no plans to turn the outbound cameras on." Until we decide to change our mind for more money.
Hahaha! They already have the outbound cameras installed. What a joke! I'm born and raised in NYC and i'm sick of it all!
The reason for these cameras, worldwide, is as follows, in order of priority:
1. Mass surveillance
2. Where they apply to old cars only, effective confiscation of property
3. Distant third... money.
These people never fixed the traffic problem and only added to it. They changed three lanes of traffic into two added public spaces and took away streets for car traffic and now want to charge us. The city messed up and we the citizens should not have to pay for their mistake.
Cash, you are doing a good job in selling "Don't come to NYC to live". Too expensive. And yeah, the bar code for the foreheads is coming soon if these politicians get their way. 😂😭
Louis rossmann recently left NYC and made a lot of videos explaining why. He runs a computer repair shop. Search for him on youtube
They already have facial recognition cameras.
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Europe is going thru the same thing, the citizens over there are cutting down the poles that the camras are on..right now it happening over there.
Only 2 type of people coming to nyc. Immigrants, young trust funds kids and very rich older Americans who has it all and just want to live in Manhattan for few years before they gone
"Why are you still living there?"
It's what goes through my mind whenever you post a new video like this.
Because he wouldn’t have a channel or a job if he left
The ones on roads leaving are to ensure people who started their journey within the zone are also charged, otherwise people staying in the zone overnight wouldn’t be charged. It’s not rocket science.
I live in Queens and worked for the MTA for a while. First, knowing how the city awards contracts means I know there's no way the subways are going to improve, no matter how much money is thrown at them. That money literally has to go through a union kickback filter before pen is put to paper. The NY times did a great article on this. Second, people from outside of the city are already parking their cars in my neighborhood and taking mass transit from here, so congestion tolls are only going to make that situation worse by making rich manattanites' problems my problem, but even more so.😒
🇬🇧 We have this in London, it has now been pushed out to Greater London. It is just a cash grab because studies from a leading university, commissioned by the mayor of London, shows that the improvement of air quality is negligible. He attempted to get the university to change its findings but they refused. It has truly impacted outer London, a vigilante in these areas is hitting back by removing the cameras (he’s called Blade runner), hundreds have been disabled or cut down with an angle grinder. This scheme was implemented to finance our transport systems in London, which is haemorrhaging money. Sadiq Khan the mayor drives around with gas guzzling land rovers in his entourage and takes private jets, yet he taxes the poor.
The subway worker's unions consider the MTA to be it's bitch.
A globalist
It's about control and power. You will own nothing and be happy
@@missf4681quit repeating that. It's disgusting. But if you are one of the many in the big huge club then you get off on it just like the rest of the hand jivers. And you probably are.
But by the slim chance you aren't, then you should say at the least that we'll own nothing and they will own everything and will be very happy. That's exactly what's happening. And if people just keep on taking it, -- then it most certainly will just keep on being dished out...
Why do people keep voting for him?
With the amount of crime in the subways, does anybody think that they’re going to literally stop driving and jump on those subways
I love cars and think private car ownership and use is a good thing for the standard of living. But, there are some limited areas that are just too high density to accommodate large numbers of vehicles. I don't know if tolls are the right way to handle it, but it's a good idea to drastically reduce the traffic in such areas and make things more inviting to pedestrians and mass transit.
I live near Rochester NY and have to go to Long Island every 6 months for my daughter's medical appointment. We usually stay at a hotel in long island city and I'm pretty sure Waze has us drive through Manhattan to get there. $15 to drive through that couple of miles is more than I pay to drive all the way from Rochester to Manhattan.
In London, people have been called "blade runners", solving the British equivalent (ULEZ). The people themselves can solve the problems the government causes. And lawsuits are not the solution.
😆 I’ve seen their videos recently. Good to know for when greedy politicians try to bring that shit to the rest of America.
The cameras can't look up.
Like hunting hogs.
Paint guns ...
Pen lazor might burn out the camera lens?
As a NYC Parks Arborist who works across all boroughs, this is going to make all city services worse. There is a small army of people working behind the scenes to keep every square foot of sidewalk, road and park going. From the plumbing system that brings you fresh water to the gas and electric lines: there are hundreds of people working on every corner of NYC each year.
Those people cannot bring large tools or heavy equipment on a subway. If I brought my 35ft extendable pole saw on the subway, someone would call the cops.
There is already a shortage of trades workers and civil servants in NYC. I’m lucky to work for a subcontractor and have a boss who treats me with dignity and respect, but the direct city jobs are already paying poverty wages for central borough living. What folks in midtown don’t realize is that without the people paid to make there city run coming to midtown, that city is straight up going to fall apart.
I’ve already told my boss I can’t work Manhattan jobs as tolls are already too high for me to make a decent wage if I’m paying 10-16$ in bridge fees, then another 15$ in congestion pricing and about a 1/5 chance I’ll get a parking ticket due the city not issuing parking permits to regular city workers.
For context, if I’m doing site inspections for planting I’m visiting 40-80 sites in a day. If I had to take 20 minutes to look for legal parking, I couldn’t get half that done. It’s 120-180$ for a ticket, which is my whole days wages. So really, I’ve lost money working all day to help make the city more beautiful.
Additionally, the money management problem at the MTA are incredibly real. They’re one of the only city services that actively turns a profit. However, that money gets siphoned away into various political slush funds or downtown beautification projects that don’t provide the real upgrades our transit services need.
I love working in this city, I love helping it’s air be more breathable, and talking to folks from every neighborhood about how to protect their trees. I support measures like extending metered parking, and despite needing a vehicle to do my work- I’m very much pro public transit. This isn’t going to solve the problem though, it’s just creating a host of new ones.
Again what most advocates are missing is that fact that now if you l8ve in any borough but upper Manhattan and the Bronx your are going to pay an EXIT TAX! The onl6 free ways to leave NYC is the Holland, Lincoln and Geworge Washington Bridge. If you live in Bklyn, Queens or Long Island you have to cross the East River to come.into the city or go over the Tri-borough Throgs Neck or Whitstone bridge. The Holland and Lincoln tunnel are in the congestion pricing Zone. So now you have to pay to leave NYC.. how the fuck is that fair? How is that even legal? I think it's definitely a racist and biased situation because it unduly stresses and causes harm to those without means that want and should have a legally free way to egress and move without hindrance throughout the United States.
When you’re doing inspections could you not just ride a bike or a Surron or something? You can move quicker and find somewhere almost anywhere to chain up within sight of the inspection zone. I run my own tree service not in NYC, but I’ll ride my bicycle around when I do the city tree bids. Sometimes I ride a Suzuki dr650 to go quote jobs and collect payments when I need to.
How is it racist. That word is used way too much for everything. Its the low life politicians that are doing this to NYC. It's going to hurt all the businesses with all the taxes. @@AStewSr
Much respect due to you sir....thank you
Why is your job not reimbursing you for tolls?
During the Covid lockdown, the MTA had over two years to catch up due to a lack of congestion.
15 minute city control grid. Mark my words
Cash, you are indispensable. We are so grateful for your reporting. It is so hard to get a grip on NYC these days and you are always on the job. Thank you so much!
His reporting is actually horrible. Thank you for being a stupid RUclips poster that believes influencers lmao
Thank you so much!