You can't win with the watch community. Inhouse movement, with 5 day power reserve and an industry leading 10 year warranty. Great job Oris!! Now about those proprietary lugs. 😂
My thoughts exactly, I have the 43.5mm cal.400 blue w/bracelet, in been looking for a rubber strap for it and I can’t find one fit under $400-500 Canadian…. $4-500 for a chunk of rubber!!??? Uhhg
@@brandonspencer309 Don't know what the pricing situation in Canada is like, but in the Netherlands I could get a rubber strap for around €250 with the clasp from an AD. Straps, like watches, sometimes also have some wiggle room in the price. Although it might not be as much, still worth trying though.
A really magnificent watch, inside and out. At the end of the day it's hard to justify any watch over $1000 USD and comes down to personal preferences.
Exactly right. Once they have it for a while on the GREEN Aquis, I will go to the AD and try on both...and see...and decide which green one to get...and try them on again, and think about it, and walk out with one of them :) But that means I won't be getting the "regular" Aquis green for some time, but I have to wait to compare.
3 Points 1: The movement looks incredible. 2: It's made the original Aquis a second choice watch. If I had recently bought an Aquis, with the off the shelf movement , I think I might be annoyed. 3: Why bring out a watch costing £2700 that is, to all intents and purposes, identical to a watch costing £1600 ? A "luxury" watch isn't solely defined by its mechanism. Finish, strap, clasp, polish, aesthetic all come into it. In all these respects, this is still a £1600 Aquis. Status can be a factor in watch purchases, so it might have made more sense to bring out a new model as they're now in Tudor territory. Great review by the way...
They had to jack up the price to pay for the R&D of the 400 and used an existing model to save money. I have no problem with them doing this. The 10 year warranty and service interval knocks some of that original cost down. I also believe that ORIS’ fit and finish is easily as good if not better than the Tudor and their bracelets are sold and very comfortable.
@BackdriftNightfall So you really think that everyone who buys a Rolex does so because of the watches' technical specs and build quality ? People don't buy them because they're a status symbol ? You may not like it, but you'd have to be an idiot to deny it.
@@DWilliam1 If you're right on that, Tudor has pulled off an incredible piece of marketing that has conned almost every U tube watch reviewer and millions of customers. Until recently , Tudor fitted modified ETA movements into most of their models...as do Oris (ETA clones)...and yet Tudor has routinely charged a £/$/€ 1000 premium for equivalent watches that have equivalent movements.
Thank you, another thought provoking video. I love my 10yrs old Oris, Williams F1 watch, I've had it 10yrs. and it still looks great, not serviced but still accurate to +6secs per day. The new in house movement is the way forward, however, in my view it's a big negative to have it built by a third party, (any idea where it's built?) and still charge an Uber premium on the "In house movement"! I always struggle with watch manufacturers who like to boast as being a high quality watch makers when they don't produce their own movements, (that makes them, to me, quality assemblers, rather than watch makers). Re: the new calibre 400, is not the prettiest movement on earth, the Sellita 200 it replaces, to me is way nicer to look at. In the U.K., the Sellita 200 retails at £150, fo the standard movement, and £250:00 for the beautiful skeletonised version, the The extra £850:00, the Oris designed movement costs, is asking too much of the purchaser to bear. The hype around power reserve, to me is fairly pointless in an automatic movement, yes, in a manually hand wound watch, winding the watch say once every 5 days rather than daily, perhaps a selling point. ( that said, If I was fortunate enough to own an A. Lange & Sohn'e, or Breguet, I'd be thrilled to wind it daily!) With regard to claims around magnetic protection, I'm in my mid 60's, I've been a committed watch nut for most of that time, in all that time, I've never had an issue with magnetic forces messing with my watch, this is current fashion, it's a talking point, nothing else. Sorry, this has turned into a bit of a diatribe, it wasn't meat to be. Best. Stuart
Love how they've developed such a competitive movement with an amazing spec sheet, however I don't know if i'd pay that much when it's in the ballpark of a Tudor
He had a good run turning 90 before he passed, but will still be missed. An IMHO underrated and not so well known movie in which he's great is The Hill (1965 I think).
They might have missed a product design and marketing trick here: release a “planet ocean” style variation “Aquis Hydroscape” etc, etc, on the base Aquis (or extend the professional line) and justify the price disparity over the SW200 model with a differentiated case and 600m etc? This would also justify it bumping price wise into tool watches with IHMs like the Pelagos. Great to see the breakthrough work the engineers have done here in terms of innovation...
Also figure in years down the road, to get a Selitta repaired or serviced would be far easier and a lot cheaper. If and when Oris comes out with different styles and colors, I probably will get one. Right now, doubtful you would get any discount. That and it being a new movement, would like to wait and see if there are issues, heck Patek Rolex, Tudor, Panari and others have had problems with new movements. Wait a year, then I will look.
I think that between this and the ProPilot X, Oris is really trying to flex their horological muscles and prove that they are just as good as the other entry-level luxury brands, specially Tudor. I think the pricing is going to prove to be whatever makes or breaks them in that aspect. Most companies really do go through a hard transition in perception once they go in-house. I’ll personally be keeping my eyes on them and wish Oris the best of luck! Thanks for the awesome video, Jody!
That is such a gorgeous blue watch! I'd love to have one, but that price hike... I dunno! 🤔 There is no doubt some value in the in-house movement, 5 Day power reserve, 10 year warranty, and 10 year service interval, but this is a tough decision.😵 Also, RIP Sean Connery.😞 But 90 is a ripe old age and the man leaves behind quite the legacy!🍸🍸🍸
Thanks for the great review. I fell in love with this watch and ordered one a few days ago in 43.5mm. A big deal for me as the watch I`m upgrading from is an $800 g shock mud master. This will be the second watch in my collection. I love the fact that Oris is independent. By the way, I am doing okay thank you. I hope you are also doing well.
I bought this about a year ago right around when this video came out, I'm just going to say I really love this watch. I have zero complaints. It's been running +/- 2-3 seconds and despite near daily wear looks almost brand new still after taking quite a few hard knocks. 😅
I will wear mine for about 4 days and them take it off for about 3 days. By day 2 it's dead. I have never seen 5 days out of it. Have you had this problem? How much do you have to wind it to get 5 days or can you over wind it? Love it otherwise
@@Jaypilot100You can’t overwind this watch. If you wind it manually you will reach a point where winding further is not adding more run time to the movement, but continuing to wind beyond this point will not damage or overwind the watch. The idea of an overwound watch is a myth. A manual wind only watch will not let you wind it beyond a certain point, the crown will simply stop turning. Once fully wound, the bridle of the mainspring of an automatic watch will start slipping in the barrel in response to further winding. If you give your Oris a good winding after you take it off, it should be running when you go to put it back on 3 days later.
This makes me wonder: would it be possible for Oris to put this caliber into a Big Crown Pointer Date at some point? Swapping the torque from a date wheel to a date hand shouldn't be too hard, I reckon? That would be fantastic! Great video as always, Jody!
It would depend very much on production and price point. If they can produce 5,000 a year, what product line should they put these movements into and what markup will that yield?
It's a gorgeous watch without a doubt and I really love this colourway. If I was to buy an Oris Aquis, however I would stick to the Sellita version, I'd prefer a 39 mm to be more precise.
Superb! The first time I heard about Oris, it was in an episode from The Sopranos, and since then i can't stop thinking about those watches. For me, that's a huge endorsement :)
This looks like a great option at that price point. Modern design, quality finishing and a fantastic movement. It's time to move forward- Tudor are an over hyped homage brand for people who want a vintage look.
You’re not late, you’re right on time. Just heard about this watch yesterday. Very interested to see what you have to say about the (hefty) increase in price!
Nice review Jody!😍This is one of the first in-house movements I see an actual benefit in getting. In-house mean NOTHING to me, unless it is better than the Swiss movements available to watch manufacturers. Oris seem to have accomplishes this! It is now out of my price range, but I appreciate the leap in technology! Well done Otis!
Sydney has been very fortunate compared to the rest of the world, so far at least, but even still, it has been a testing time. Likewise, hope you and yours are well.
Got some of the best specs at the price. But they haven't updated the clasp and always thought the bezel play was a little loose. Maybe if those things have been updated I could see it being worth that level off price increase.
I find this to be a rare watch in that it has all the right specs, an incredible warranty, an established brand, and offers the chance to feel like you're not paying a premium for the name on the dial.
I have three Oris and love them. Perennial underdog of Swiss watches. That’s all I have for you. Not exactly the contents of Ottoman Sultan Selim The Grims Anatolian library in therms of enlightenment, but , that’s lockdown for you.
Great video brother. At this point I’m not sure about that high price point. However that new movement is remarkable!! Thanks for everything you do for the watch community ❤️
Another interesting review Jody ! Nice shirt too ! Impressive movement, but the price tag really hurts for Oris’s usual range of consumers. I’d probably go Tudor.
Your channel definetly helps keeping my sanity during the worst year ever. Now,we lost Sir Sean Connery...RIP. Well,the show must go on...great watch,great vídeo and great hobby is this,right? Makes things a little bit easier.
"...as 2020 stakes it's claim as the worst year ever..." - Just learned 5mins before hearing this Sean Connery had past. - Yup. You bet it is! But it's still a beautiful watch!
Sorry, not for me. For an extra £60 retail, I could get the Tudor Black Bay Fifty-Eight on a bracelet. I see Oris have also dropped the red coloured 'Hi-Mech' rotor.
Really??? You prefer a Sub copy with aluminium bezel and caliber shared with Chanel, Fortis and Norqain?? Instead of this massive superior movement? That’s the power of marketing!
@DiscoFalcon all of us have different taste and expectations from watches: I am not impressed by Tudor Bb, my preferred one is the Pelagos that is more in line with the story of Tudor. In my humble opinion, the Bb family is a marketing proposal for Rolex Sub eagers: looking at my wrist, the Bb just remind me his famous cousin... nothing else. While Pelagos has his own presence and communicate a clear attitude. Enjoy your Bb!
I have several Aquis models and the issue here for me really is the price point. I bought them all NIB via reputable US gray market sellers for $1000-$1500. If the price is going to float into the $3000 +/- range that's going to be a make or break issue. I like my Aquis watches, but Oris is not a brand I'm ready to drop $3000+ on. The movement is an impressive flex but in my experience they need to bring up their Aquis bracelet engineering/manufacturing game (screws backing out and detaching Aquis bracelets is a common occurrence, and two of mine had this issue) and service game if they are going to be at near Omega pricing levels.
Great video, great watch. Yes I`m an Oris fan. The Aquis is one of the few divers that has its own design language. That plus excellent workmanship and lots of color and size options = why I like them so much. Now I`m off to shake out the sofa cushions. Stay well, everyone!
Great content as always mate. The intro video picture quality didn't seem as crisp on my TV as usual. B roll was fine. Not a criticism, just thought you might like to know.
If i was going for an Oris, the caliber 400 would definitely be the one i would go for, very impressive specs. And that color looks amazing. Thankfully my collection has too many divers already.😅 My wallet couldn't handle an Oris atm.
Great review as usual, good moment for me in this semi confinement situation, as a oris fan I really like the watch though the increase price it's perhaps a bit too much, I would certainly consider it if finding it cheaper in the future. Sean Connery RIP, we'll miss actors like him, thanks for all you brought.
That is a handsome piece. Love the color, love the sunburst dial, wish it were a little less high-polish. And that ten-year warranty is a huge selling point. A bit spendy though. If I were shopping for a diver in this price I would probably go for a Seamaster 300. (Which I am thinking of doing...) A great review Jody!
As I saw Oris announcing new movement I immediatelly pulled the trigger on Oris big crown blue dial like new from chrono24 on bracelet and it is coming on Monday, cant wait for it. Hoping that it will skyrocket in value just like Black bay ETA, but I dont care really :)
Hopefully Oris have also designed a no-date version of this movement. I would love to see more clean dial no-date options from Oris... Including a no-date Aquis.
Love the watch, movement seems an improvement, but costs US1,000 more than my Oris Lake Baikal which looks similar and like the dail better. If I didn't have it, maybe. Still Kudo's to Oris. Maybe next year if they have more models with the new version. If and when they toss this new movement into the Divers 65 in bronze and not in bronze, I'd be interested.
Great video! Your channel seriously helps with staying sane in these weird times, so a massive thanks! Also really like the new lighting/ camera setup. Cheers Jody!
Great review, Jody! I appreciate the new movement, but I guess I was hoping for a new Aquis case and dial design to really set the watch apart along with the calibre 4000. A thinner case would be a good start. Still a great looking piece, but I agree with some of the other comments: the price is getting very close to something like a Black Bay or Pelagos.
Nice looking watch , seems way too much$ for the in house design movement they're closer to an omega 300 m in pricing but at a tag heuer aquaracer quality I own both and like them both but you can see the difference in price and quality I would have rather seen a cos sw200 than a none, in house design movement with out such a huge increase in price
Love it! Will wait for the price to drop on gray market. Can get it from an AD online right now for $2950 USD, which brings a lot more options to consider. My Aquis Big Day/Date is simply phenomenal, however. More accurate than my Breitling, lol, despite only sporting the SW200. Great review.
It’s definitely a watch on my list I just got to stop buying $300 divers I would be able to afford one. I’m always a fan of an in-house movement it just makes her watch a little more special so that’s a big deal to me I have deep blue and other micro brands with SW 200 movements so what does that I spent less than a grand for and I have the same movement A watch costing five times as much makes it hard to pull the trigger on one
I guess the difference is you’re buying a Mercedes with a Chevrolet engine or a Mercedes with a Mercedes engine to me that’s the difference in an in-house movement
This is a fantastic development for Oris and the new Aquis Caliber 400 will be bought by me in 2021! The price for the spec is superb! Cannot wait! Great review as always. Ps RIP Sir Sean Connery!
I'm one of the odd ones out. I really don't get the appeal of Oris. They are well made watches, but really don't do it for me. I'd much rather have a Rado Captain Cook (I tried an Aquis, a diver 65, and a Rado CC a while ago). This new one puts it in the vicinity of Tudor Black Bay prices. I'm afraid it would Tudor everyday. But as always just your money, your wrist, your watch
The 5day power reserve is good but doesn’t affect my decision to buy or not, what a cannot stand and therefore stops me from buying one is printing ‘5 days’ on the dial.
He was my favorite James Bond, and I enjoyed everything he did.........He was among the last Great actors of my (older) generation. Not many of them left.
...The names Bond, James Bond. Him, entering the gaming room in Goldfinger and sitting down,perfection. It forever sealed the persona of Bond to me. His Aston Martin and its capacity's was a natural for him. A beautiful watch Jody, thank you.
I own an Aquis 39.5 with the tungsten bezel, it looks beautiful but the timing could be more accurate. Would i pay twice the price for an in house movement to solve that... no, i'd be eying up a black bay instead around that sort of money.
Christopher Ward have quite a few models with their in house SH21 calibre - 120 hr power reserve and COSC certified - for up to £1000 less than the Oris. Value for money Oris?
This new Diver look great but for 3000$ i was expecting better decoration on the new movement! the Longines hydroconquest and Bigeye are much better deal for the money. I prefer to save even more money to get a Omega Seamaster or Zenith Defy in staid of this new movement.
5 day power is impressive and a selling point when comparing to other watches, but not for 50% higher price! Sounds like pricing to quickly recover R&D spend, but it puts the 400 up against a wider range of competition.
Hmm. Lovely, but not enough to divert me from Aquis Lake Baikal edition that I'm weighing up (read: trying to figure out how to sneak it past the missus)
Great informative video. Love your work and unbiased opinions so thank you. In regards to the watch. Beautiful aquis as usual. Amazing colour, and now wonderful in house movement. It looks better than the seamaster, submariner and the Tudor. Gives the Breitling heritage a run as well. The movement is personal. If you don't mind throwing extra money away for bragging right, then go for it. Otherwise the original will certainly do the job just well for many years. There's no right or wrong. Whatever floats your boat. All the aquis watches are gorgeous. Always have been and wont make a lot difference. I love this new colour however but might wait a couple of years for a good second hand example. It's stunning.
Oris IN HOUSE Movement - Made by Another HOUSE??? but designed on a computer by ORIS! Makes sense the price increase is so much. they are paying the other HOUSE to build their computer diagrams. looks like Miyota or Citizen is the calibre maker with the plate finishing and cut outs. just a guess I know oris will never tell us who makes their in house design.
I like what Oris is doing, you got some explaining to do that's for sure 👍🏼👍🏼great movement from Oris no doubt, the price a little bit on decide, will see what happens...
The Selita powered 41.5 mm would be the one for me. However when I got mine that was not available, still love the 43.5 but would love to swap it for the slightly smaller one. The new movement is lovely, just not worth all that extra dosh as I wear it in rotation with others.
A bit "top trumps", having the in house movement, tick. Having a watch that isn't quartz that you are not using running in the drawer, tick. Practically, the Selitta version is a good solid movement, parts easily available and cheap. It's so simple if you wanted to you can service/fix it yourself. I have a couple of Selittas and would be happy to stick with that option and the difference is enough you get a Delma Oceanmaster Tide a properly useful nautical watch.
I couldn't care less about in house movements. Whilst the specs and warranty of the P400 are good I would still take the Selitta version and trouser the difference - its a good movement and easier and no doubt cheaper to service/repair.
I bought the Baikal a few months ago. Would I pay the huge increase of about £1200 for this new movement. Definitely not. This new price of £2700 is going to sell more watches for Tudor
I feel like Oris should distinguish the new model from the Sellita, as they decided to not discontinue them. Even the carmakers know to put some fancy sticker to let the peasants know you spent more. 😁
Super intriguing this new in-house movement deal. I’ve got the 65, Aquis, and the Big Crown pointer day (cool out of the ordinary watch) all great watches. This new caliber adds an amazing new twist. Trying to decide if i want to upgrade my Aquis for the new one.... thanks for the insight
I'm intrigued by this movement, but that is a big premium. I wonder if it would have been easier to swallow if it were introduced with an entirely new design, rather than looking exactly the same as the much more affordable one. For comparison, I have a Ball Roadmaster Icebreaker with their in-house movement. There is also one with a standard (modified ETA) movement, and the price difference is only a few hundred dollars. I admit it is not as fancy as the Oris 400, but it has an 80 hour power reserve, 28,800 bph retained, and is COSC certified.
A new bad boy on the block... I like it, and the quick detach bracelet is awsome! wish it had an on the fly micro adjust like the new Monta. Maybe that will be the next area of improvment for them now they have got some spotlight from the new movement.
Does it worth around 3500 USD? I think that's a personal preference, for somebody it is, for somebody it's not.....a thousands hours of development, a lot of effort, a lot of money, a lot of knowledge is inside that movement and that's not worthless for sure. Specs are....very impressive, 5 days of power reserve for an automatic is crazy completely....regulated to 5 positions....10 year warranty....that's really nice. I would like to get this watch for a present for sure. This thing is very legible, very nice and very tough probably, that's everything that it need to be, that's why it's built. Nice video Jody
" ...putting them right up there with Vostok in that regard!" LMAO Jody, your sneaky Scotch humor is kickin'em hard! Cheers mate!
It’s both funny and quite true.
Lol yeah, I laughed at that awesome comment as well.
You can't win with the watch community. Inhouse movement, with 5 day power reserve and an industry leading 10 year warranty. Great job Oris!! Now about those proprietary lugs. 😂
Well, it's a turd of a movement and do people still belive in warranties?
@@CapaNoisyCapa Apparently. Who hasn’t received a call about an extended warranty for their vehicle?
And on-the-fly adjustment clasp
My thoughts exactly, I have the 43.5mm cal.400 blue w/bracelet, in been looking for a rubber strap for it and I can’t find one fit under $400-500 Canadian…. $4-500 for a chunk of rubber!!??? Uhhg
@@brandonspencer309 Don't know what the pricing situation in Canada is like, but in the Netherlands I could get a rubber strap for around €250 with the clasp from an AD. Straps, like watches, sometimes also have some wiggle room in the price. Although it might not be as much, still worth trying though.
A really magnificent watch, inside and out. At the end of the day it's hard to justify any watch over $1000 USD and comes down to personal preferences.
Exactly right. Once they have it for a while on the GREEN Aquis, I will go to the AD and try on both...and see...and decide which green one to get...and try them on again, and think about it, and walk out with one of them :) But that means I won't be getting the "regular" Aquis green for some time, but I have to wait to compare.
3 Points
1: The movement looks incredible.
2: It's made the original Aquis a second choice watch. If I had recently bought an Aquis, with the off the shelf movement , I think I might be annoyed.
3: Why bring out a watch costing £2700 that is, to all intents and purposes, identical to a watch costing £1600 ? A "luxury" watch isn't solely defined by its mechanism. Finish, strap, clasp, polish, aesthetic all come into it. In all these respects, this is still a £1600 Aquis.
Status can be a factor in watch purchases, so it might have made more sense to bring out a new model as they're now in Tudor territory.
Great review by the way...
Correct. The integrated bracelet is still a deal breaker and the clasp isn't that nice.
The movement certainly has incredible specs but not an incredible look for me....
They had to jack up the price to pay for the R&D of the 400 and used an existing model to save money. I have no problem with them doing this. The 10 year warranty and service interval knocks some of that original cost down. I also believe that ORIS’ fit and finish is easily as good if not better than the Tudor and their bracelets are sold and very comfortable.
@BackdriftNightfall So you really think that everyone who buys a Rolex does so because of the watches' technical specs and build quality ?
People don't buy them because they're a status symbol ?
You may not like it, but you'd have to be an idiot to deny it.
@@DWilliam1 If you're right on that, Tudor has pulled off an incredible piece of marketing that has conned almost every U tube watch reviewer and millions of customers.
Until recently , Tudor fitted modified ETA movements into most of their models...as do Oris (ETA clones)...and yet Tudor has routinely charged a £/$/€ 1000 premium for equivalent watches that have equivalent movements.
Thank you, another thought provoking video.
I love my 10yrs old Oris, Williams F1 watch, I've had it 10yrs. and it still looks great, not serviced but still accurate to +6secs per day.
The new in house movement is the way forward, however, in my view it's a big negative to have it built by a third party, (any idea where it's built?) and still charge an Uber premium on the "In house movement"!
I always struggle with watch manufacturers who like to boast as being a high quality watch makers when they don't produce their own movements, (that makes them, to me, quality assemblers, rather than watch makers).
Re: the new calibre 400, is not the prettiest movement on earth, the Sellita 200 it replaces, to me is way nicer to look at.
In the U.K., the Sellita 200 retails at £150, fo the standard movement, and £250:00 for the beautiful skeletonised version, the The extra £850:00, the Oris designed movement costs, is asking too much of the purchaser to bear.
The hype around power reserve, to me is fairly pointless in an automatic movement, yes, in a manually hand wound watch, winding the watch say once every 5 days rather than daily, perhaps a selling point. ( that said, If I was fortunate enough to own an A. Lange & Sohn'e, or Breguet, I'd be thrilled to wind it daily!)
With regard to claims around magnetic protection, I'm in my mid 60's, I've been a committed watch nut for most of that time, in all that time, I've never had an issue with magnetic forces messing with my watch, this is current fashion, it's a talking point, nothing else.
Sorry, this has turned into a bit of a diatribe, it wasn't meat to be.
Best.
Stuart
Love how they've developed such a competitive movement with an amazing spec sheet, however I don't know if i'd pay that much when it's in the ballpark of a Tudor
Smile at your ad and you'll get 35% off the oris.
RIP Sir Sean Connery best James Bond ever.
Resht in Peash 😢
To me Roger Moore who also died not too long ago. Connery was superb in The Untouchables .All sad stuff.
Agreed! RIP Sir Sean Connery. 😣
He had a good run turning 90 before he passed, but will still be missed. An IMHO underrated and not so well known movie in which he's great is The Hill (1965 I think).
Gavin Dalziel Shtill the besht...
They might have missed a product design and marketing trick here: release a “planet ocean” style variation “Aquis Hydroscape” etc, etc, on the base Aquis (or extend the professional line) and justify the price disparity over the SW200 model with a differentiated case and 600m etc? This would also justify it bumping price wise into tool watches with IHMs like the Pelagos. Great to see the breakthrough work the engineers have done here in terms of innovation...
Also figure in years down the road, to get a Selitta repaired or serviced would be far easier and a lot cheaper. If and when Oris comes out with different styles and colors, I probably will get one. Right now, doubtful you would get any discount. That and it being a new movement, would like to wait and see if there are issues, heck Patek Rolex, Tudor, Panari and others have had problems with new movements. Wait a year, then I will look.
I think that between this and the ProPilot X, Oris is really trying to flex their horological muscles and prove that they are just as good as the other entry-level luxury brands, specially Tudor. I think the pricing is going to prove to be whatever makes or breaks them in that aspect. Most companies really do go through a hard transition in perception once they go in-house. I’ll personally be keeping my eyes on them and wish Oris the best of luck! Thanks for the awesome video, Jody!
Not sure anyone would choose this over an entry level Tudor or Omega
@@michaelbishop9157 Oh, I would choose this. It’s beautiful. Just the watch that I’ve set my heart on! Plus, no one would ask me if it’s a real one!!
@@lordcharfield4529 do people ask if Tudor or Omega watches are fake my lord ?
Very glad to hear they will still be making the SW200 versions, personally I don't need (or want) a 5 day power reserve.
That is such a gorgeous blue watch! I'd love to have one, but that price hike... I dunno! 🤔 There is no doubt some value in the in-house movement, 5 Day power reserve, 10 year warranty, and 10 year service interval, but this is a tough decision.😵
Also, RIP Sean Connery.😞 But 90 is a ripe old age and the man leaves behind quite the legacy!🍸🍸🍸
Wow this was one hell of a marketing blitz by Oris. It seems Every watch channel on RUclips is talking about it. I hope you all got paid.
Thanks for the great review. I fell in love with this watch and ordered one a few days ago in 43.5mm. A big deal for me as the watch I`m upgrading from is an $800 g shock mud master. This will be the second watch in my collection. I love the fact that Oris is independent. By the way, I am doing okay thank you. I hope you are also doing well.
I bought this about a year ago right around when this video came out, I'm just going to say I really love this watch. I have zero complaints. It's been running +/- 2-3 seconds and despite near daily wear looks almost brand new still after taking quite a few hard knocks. 😅
I will wear mine for about 4 days and them take it off for about 3 days. By day 2 it's dead. I have never seen 5 days out of it. Have you had this problem? How much do you have to wind it to get 5 days or can you over wind it? Love it otherwise
@@Jaypilot100You can’t overwind this watch. If you wind it manually you will reach a point where winding further is not adding more run time to the movement, but continuing to wind beyond this point will not damage or overwind the watch.
The idea of an overwound watch is a myth. A manual wind only watch will not let you wind it beyond a certain point, the crown will simply stop turning. Once fully wound, the bridle of the mainspring of an automatic watch will start slipping in the barrel in response to further winding.
If you give your Oris a good winding after you take it off, it should be running when you go to put it back on 3 days later.
This makes me wonder: would it be possible for Oris to put this caliber into a Big Crown Pointer Date at some point? Swapping the torque from a date wheel to a date hand shouldn't be too hard, I reckon? That would be fantastic!
Great video as always, Jody!
Yeah I think you are right. All 3 handers with date should be pretty easy, if a tight squeeze!
It would depend very much on production and price point. If they can produce 5,000 a year, what product line should they put these movements into and what markup will that yield?
It's a gorgeous watch without a doubt and I really love this colourway. If I was to buy an Oris Aquis, however I would stick to the Sellita version, I'd prefer a 39 mm to be more precise.
Superb! The first time I heard about Oris, it was in an episode from The Sopranos, and since then i can't stop thinking about those watches. For me, that's a huge endorsement :)
Same here! Never would have thought of it but now I'm hooked
Thanks to Sir Ben Kingsley
This looks like a great option at that price point. Modern design, quality finishing and a fantastic movement.
It's time to move forward- Tudor are an over hyped homage brand for people who want a vintage look.
I feel personally attacked. I have a Tudor Black Bay but I have 2 oris aquis.
@@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 haha sorry Matt, I'm only jealous.
I don’t have one, but the Oris is definitely a watch brand worth looking, great designs.
You’re not late, you’re right on time. Just heard about this watch yesterday. Very interested to see what you have to say about the (hefty) increase in price!
Wow. That wrist shot in pocket made that Oris look A LOT smaller than I expected.
@DiscoFalcon Very interesting, how was it more comfortable being a larger watch? Also, did you try on the 41.5? Cheers!
Nice review Jody!😍This is one of the first in-house movements I see an actual benefit in getting. In-house mean NOTHING to me, unless it is better than the Swiss movements available to watch manufacturers. Oris seem to have accomplishes this! It is now out of my price range, but I appreciate the leap in technology! Well done Otis!
That's a great way to look at things
Thank you for your concern. It's been a very trying year here in the U.S. Hoping you and your family are doing well.
Sydney has been very fortunate compared to the rest of the world, so far at least, but even still, it has been a testing time. Likewise, hope you and yours are well.
Got some of the best specs at the price. But they haven't updated the clasp and always thought the bezel play was a little loose. Maybe if those things have been updated I could see it being worth that level off price increase.
I find this to be a rare watch in that it has all the right specs, an incredible warranty, an established brand, and offers the chance to feel like you're not paying a premium for the name on the dial.
I have three Oris and love them. Perennial underdog of Swiss watches. That’s all I have for you. Not exactly the contents of Ottoman Sultan Selim The Grims Anatolian library in therms of enlightenment, but , that’s lockdown for you.
Great video brother. At this point I’m not sure about that high price point. However that new movement is remarkable!! Thanks for everything you do for the watch community ❤️
Another interesting review Jody ! Nice shirt too ! Impressive movement, but the price tag really hurts for Oris’s usual range of consumers. I’d probably go Tudor.
The Oris is a nice looking watch. It may be a similar price to the Tudor BB58 - the big difference is that you can actually buy an Oris!
Your channel definetly helps keeping my sanity during the worst year ever. Now,we lost Sir Sean Connery...RIP. Well,the show must go on...great watch,great vídeo and great hobby is this,right? Makes things a little bit easier.
"...as 2020 stakes it's claim as the worst year ever..."
- Just learned 5mins before hearing this Sean Connery had past. - Yup. You bet it is!
But it's still a beautiful watch!
Just discovered your channel recently and gotta say it improves this shitty year a whole lot. all the best wishes!
Thanks for watching mate and same to you! It'll get better, can't get much worse eh?
Sorry, not for me. For an extra £60 retail, I could get the Tudor Black Bay Fifty-Eight on a bracelet. I see Oris have also dropped the red coloured 'Hi-Mech' rotor.
It's going to be Tudor BB 58 for me too
Really??? You prefer a Sub copy with aluminium bezel and caliber shared with Chanel, Fortis and Norqain?? Instead of this massive superior movement? That’s the power of marketing!
@@albertocasoni6691 Good point
@DiscoFalcon all of us have different taste and expectations from watches: I am not impressed by Tudor Bb, my preferred one is the Pelagos that is more in line with the story of Tudor. In my humble opinion, the Bb family is a marketing proposal for Rolex Sub eagers: looking at my wrist, the Bb just remind me his famous cousin... nothing else. While Pelagos has his own presence and communicate a clear attitude. Enjoy your Bb!
@@albertocasoni6691 yup marketing to watch nerds. Not one person who is not into watches would pick the Tudor Black bay looks over the Oris.
I have several Aquis models and the issue here for me really is the price point. I bought them all NIB via reputable US gray market sellers for $1000-$1500. If the price is going to float into the $3000 +/- range that's going to be a make or break issue. I like my Aquis watches, but Oris is not a brand I'm ready to drop $3000+ on. The movement is an impressive flex but in my experience they need to bring up their Aquis bracelet engineering/manufacturing game (screws backing out and detaching Aquis bracelets is a common occurrence, and two of mine had this issue) and service game if they are going to be at near Omega pricing levels.
Great video, great watch. Yes I`m an Oris fan. The Aquis is one of the few divers that has its own design language. That plus excellent workmanship and lots of color and size options = why I like them so much. Now I`m off to shake out the sofa cushions. Stay well, everyone!
I had a black bay heritage on loan for 2 weeks recently and it lost 3 seconds over 14 days,pretty good.
That is a beautiful watch. Out of my price range but with a ten year warranty and service, you can't moan at that. great vid jody.
Great content as always mate. The intro video picture quality didn't seem as crisp on my TV as usual. B roll was fine. Not a criticism, just thought you might like to know.
I really like the lighting of that (studio) background 👍🏻
Very cool movement in a fantastic looking watch.
But for my money, I'd take a Pelagos(I'm a sucker for dates and crown guards) for not much more.
Pelagos review coming this weekend.....
If i was going for an Oris, the caliber 400 would definitely be the one i would go for, very impressive specs. And that color looks amazing. Thankfully my collection has too many divers already.😅 My wallet couldn't handle an Oris atm.
I love the Aquis . Not sure printing 5 days on the dial is necessary. Bit of an odd decision in my opinion
Great review as usual, good moment for me in this semi confinement situation, as a oris fan I really like the watch though the increase price it's perhaps a bit too much, I would certainly consider it if finding it cheaper in the future. Sean Connery RIP, we'll miss actors like him, thanks for all you brought.
Classic design and revolutionary movement. What could be better? Price ;)
That is a handsome piece. Love the color, love the sunburst dial, wish it were a little less high-polish. And that ten-year warranty is a huge selling point. A bit spendy though. If I were shopping for a diver in this price I would probably go for a Seamaster 300. (Which I am thinking of doing...) A great review Jody!
As I saw Oris announcing new movement I immediatelly pulled the trigger on Oris big crown blue dial like new from chrono24 on bracelet and it is coming on Monday, cant wait for it. Hoping that it will skyrocket in value just like Black bay ETA, but I dont care really :)
Yes I think it is. Lovely watch and this was just what it needed. That sw200 needed to be gone. Now it is !!!
He knows his stuff!
I hope Oris will make a 40mm version of this new calibre 400.
Hopefully Oris have also designed a no-date version of this movement. I would love to see more clean dial no-date options from Oris... Including a no-date Aquis.
Thank you for a well balanced review of a beautiful watch. Particularly appreciated the financial aspect of this review. Take care and stay safe.
Love the watch, movement seems an improvement, but costs US1,000 more than my Oris Lake Baikal which looks similar and like the dail better. If I didn't have it, maybe. Still Kudo's to Oris. Maybe next year if they have more models with the new version. If and when they toss this new movement into the Divers 65 in bronze and not in bronze, I'd be interested.
Great video! Your channel seriously helps with staying sane in these weird times, so a massive thanks! Also really like the new lighting/ camera setup. Cheers Jody!
brill watch love it... not sure about the price when u can get a tudor for just a bit more cash cheers
Great review, Jody! I appreciate the new movement, but I guess I was hoping for a new Aquis case and dial design to really set the watch apart along with the calibre 4000. A thinner case would be a good start. Still a great looking piece, but I agree with some of the other comments: the price is getting very close to something like a Black Bay or Pelagos.
Nice looking watch , seems way too much$ for the in house design movement they're closer to an omega 300 m in pricing but at a tag heuer aquaracer quality I own both and like them both but you can see the difference in price and quality I would have rather seen a cos sw200 than a none, in house design movement with out such a huge increase in price
Good points
Love it! Will wait for the price to drop on gray market. Can get it from an AD online right now for $2950 USD, which brings a lot more options to consider. My Aquis Big Day/Date is simply phenomenal, however. More accurate than my Breitling, lol, despite only sporting the SW200. Great review.
I’m cool with the Selita.
I'll stick with my "Yoda". Its good to have options though.
Yoda's got my vote, too. One day...
@@burnki I wish you luck! I really enjoy mine.
5 day power reserve is a step up. 120 hours
I had this one, you've got to wind the shit out of it to achieve the full P.R.
It’s definitely a watch on my list I just got to stop buying $300 divers I would be able to afford one. I’m always a fan of an in-house movement it just makes her watch a little more special so that’s a big deal to me I have deep blue and other micro brands with SW 200 movements so what does that I spent less than a grand for and I have the same movement A watch costing five times as much makes it hard to pull the trigger on one
I guess the difference is you’re buying a Mercedes with a Chevrolet engine or a Mercedes with a Mercedes engine to me that’s the difference in an in-house movement
Hi Jody. great review and plenty of pros and cons. but not for me at the price. Keep up the good work and stay safe.
Thanks Captain!
This is a fantastic development for Oris and the new Aquis Caliber 400 will be bought by me in 2021! The price for the spec is superb! Cannot wait! Great review as always. Ps RIP Sir Sean Connery!
Nice looking watch. Too expensive for me and I prefer quartz.
I'm one of the odd ones out. I really don't get the appeal of Oris. They are well made watches, but really don't do it for me. I'd much rather have a Rado Captain Cook (I tried an Aquis, a diver 65, and a Rado CC a while ago). This new one puts it in the vicinity of Tudor Black Bay prices. I'm afraid it would Tudor everyday. But as always just your money, your wrist, your watch
The 5day power reserve is good but doesn’t affect my decision to buy or not, what a cannot stand and therefore stops me from buying one is printing ‘5 days’ on the dial.
Love Oris, the movement is very cool as well. I would definitely go for the Sellita though, the price bump is too massive.
Same here!
Do they have a brand ambassador for this watch? Choosing the right person might make this watch fly??
I think the diameter is a missed opportunity; should've shrunk it.
Sw200 Aquis has been on my list for a bit but keeps getting delayed by buying these Zelos and Lorier watches. This hobby is tough!
The death of Sir Thomas Sean Connery has officially made this the worst year ever😞
I shed a tear.
@@JustOneMoreWatch I’ll be watching Dr. No is a minute, he will be missed
He was my favorite James Bond, and I enjoyed everything he did.........He was among the last Great actors of my (older) generation. Not many of them left.
RIP Sir Sean Connery!
...The names Bond, James Bond.
Him, entering the gaming room in Goldfinger and sitting down,perfection.
It forever sealed the persona of Bond to me.
His Aston Martin and its capacity's was a natural for him.
A beautiful watch Jody, thank you.
I own an Aquis 39.5 with the tungsten bezel, it looks beautiful but the timing could be more accurate. Would i pay twice the price for an in house movement to solve that... no, i'd be eying up a black bay instead around that sort of money.
Christopher Ward have quite a few models with their in house SH21 calibre - 120 hr power reserve and COSC certified - for up to £1000 less than the Oris. Value for money Oris?
It's gone from a watch I can't afford to a watch I definitely can't afford so yeah....
This new Diver look great but for 3000$ i was expecting better decoration on the new movement! the Longines hydroconquest and Bigeye are much better deal for the money. I prefer to save even more money to get a Omega Seamaster or Zenith Defy in staid of this new movement.
5 day power is impressive and a selling point when comparing to other watches, but not for 50% higher price! Sounds like pricing to quickly recover R&D spend, but it puts the 400 up against a wider range of competition.
Hmm. Lovely, but not enough to divert me from Aquis Lake Baikal edition that I'm weighing up (read: trying to figure out how to sneak it past the missus)
When I recently put the clocks back
I thought do I really need an other hour of 2020!
I bought one from THG Brisbane and it ticks every box I think i wanted in a watch. I think they may have moved up to Tudor level with that one.
Seriously cool watch, I've always loved the Oris offerings and that 5 day reserve is awesome unique selling point.
Doing worse sadly in France with colleagues and family getting the dreaded virus. I hope the rest of the World is doing better
Here’s hoping you, your colleagues and family can pull through 🙏🏻 unscathed 👍🏻
@@Yorkshiremadmick thank you very much, all the best to all of the World in these hard times
Dude! Sick shirt!
Great informative video. Love your work and unbiased opinions so thank you. In regards to the watch. Beautiful aquis as usual. Amazing colour, and now wonderful in house movement. It looks better than the seamaster, submariner and the Tudor. Gives the Breitling heritage a run as well. The movement is personal. If you don't mind throwing extra money away for bragging right, then go for it. Otherwise the original will certainly do the job just well for many years. There's no right or wrong. Whatever floats your boat. All the aquis watches are gorgeous. Always have been and wont make a lot difference. I love this new colour however but might wait a couple of years for a good second hand example. It's stunning.
Oris aquis 41.5, with on the fly microadjust and the ceramic ball bearing bezel action, id buy!!
Oris IN HOUSE Movement - Made by Another HOUSE??? but designed on a computer by ORIS! Makes sense the price increase is so much. they are paying the other HOUSE to build their computer diagrams.
looks like Miyota or Citizen is the calibre maker with the plate finishing and cut outs. just a guess I know oris will never tell us who makes their in house design.
wrong. i have heard internet rumors Synergies Horologeres is making them for Oris.
I like what Oris is doing, you got some explaining to do that's for sure 👍🏼👍🏼great movement from Oris no doubt, the price a little bit on decide, will see what happens...
The Selita powered 41.5 mm would be the one for me. However when I got mine that was not available, still love the 43.5 but would love to swap it for the slightly smaller one. The new movement is lovely, just not worth all that extra dosh as I wear it in rotation with others.
Agree Mark. 43.5 still very wearable, but I think the 41.5 will be Goldilocks porridge.
@@JustOneMoreWatch Goldilocks porridge, love that one Jody. Might steal it too 😂
...btw, some excellent editing of yer man’s informative presentation/voice over. Regardless of the lovely watch, a great produced vid.
Thanks mate! Colour balance a bit all over the place, but I'm getting there slowly in the new studio. 👍
I used to like Oris, but revised my view, last year. In part, that was because of a publicly stated opinion from Oris regarding luxury watch pricing.
A bit "top trumps", having the in house movement, tick. Having a watch that isn't quartz that you are not using running in the drawer, tick. Practically, the Selitta version is a good solid movement, parts easily available and cheap. It's so simple if you wanted to you can service/fix it yourself. I have a couple of Selittas and would be happy to stick with that option and the difference is enough you get a Delma Oceanmaster Tide a properly useful nautical watch.
You're a genius sir !
I couldn't care less about in house movements. Whilst the specs and warranty of the P400 are good I would still take the Selitta version and trouser the difference - its a good movement and easier and no doubt cheaper to service/repair.
I bought the Baikal a few months ago. Would I pay the huge increase of about £1200 for this new movement. Definitely not. This new price of £2700 is going to sell more watches for Tudor
I feel like Oris should distinguish the new model from the Sellita, as they decided to not discontinue them.
Even the carmakers know to put some fancy sticker to let the peasants know you spent more. 😁
Super intriguing this new in-house movement deal. I’ve got the 65, Aquis, and the Big Crown pointer day (cool out of the ordinary watch) all great watches. This new caliber adds an amazing new twist. Trying to decide if i want to upgrade my Aquis for the new one.... thanks for the insight
Just another ORIS for the wish list. 👍
I'm intrigued by this movement, but that is a big premium. I wonder if it would have been easier to swallow if it were introduced with an entirely new design, rather than looking exactly the same as the much more affordable one. For comparison, I have a Ball Roadmaster Icebreaker with their in-house movement. There is also one with a standard (modified ETA) movement, and the price difference is only a few hundred dollars. I admit it is not as fancy as the Oris 400, but it has an 80 hour power reserve, 28,800 bph retained, and is COSC certified.
A new bad boy on the block...
I like it, and the quick detach bracelet is awsome!
wish it had an on the fly micro adjust like the new Monta. Maybe that will be the next area of improvment for them now they have got some spotlight from the new movement.
Does it worth around 3500 USD? I think that's a personal preference, for somebody it is, for somebody it's not.....a thousands hours of development, a lot of effort, a lot of money, a lot of knowledge is inside that movement and that's not worthless for sure. Specs are....very impressive, 5 days of power reserve for an automatic is crazy completely....regulated to 5 positions....10 year warranty....that's really nice. I would like to get this watch for a present for sure. This thing is very legible, very nice and very tough probably, that's everything that it need to be, that's why it's built.
Nice video Jody
Couldn’t agree more. Nice review Jody