That power tailgate is a mechanically complex solution to a nonexistent problem. When that motor craps out, and it will, do you really want that expense???
I can see someone accidentally activating it to lower it and it lowers right onto something causing damage. Seems like an accident waiting to happen 🤷🏻♂️
I wouldn't be so confident in saying "nonexistent problem". If I am carrying bulky stuff that requires two hands operation, I can give it a simply knee tap instead of dropping down the items to close the tailgate then pick the items back. How reliable it is going to be will be up to Toyota to figure out, but it certainly is useful feature and help sales.
Have they fixed the interior fit squeeks and rattles? The whistling door seals? The lack of cargo room in the hybrid models? Does it have front tow hooks yet? Is there an inverter in the bed area yet? Are the approach and departure angles still worst in class? Is the turning radius still horrendous? Is the premium jbl stereo still worst in class? Just curious if they have made any improvements.
Yes, all of these problems still exist, except, the inverter has always been available since 2022, although pathetic at 400 watts. Please don't complain about lack of interior cargo space. This is not a sedan, crossover, or SUV and complaints like yours further the problem of over-bloated cabs and stupid short stubby beds. If you want interior space, don't get a pickup truck or put a cap/topper on the bed.
Regarding cargo room. My 2014 has hardly any interior cargo space. Fast forward to 2024 and the hybrid not only takes a relatively flat floor but takes the entire flat floor. It's a de evolution and sheer incompetence by a design team that had a decade to get it right.
I had the 2007 crew max and 2014 crew max 5.7. No problems. My 2007 had 610,00km. Looked and ran brand new. I wish I never sold it. My 2022 Limited..well..My payments are $357 every friday and I am on my 3rd motor...also..little snow on the front grill and my dash lights up
I though by now after three years it would have tow hooks. Who the F cares about an electronic tail gate that in the long run will have a mechanical issue in about 6 years from wear
@PHILLIPS8822 Exactly. I will not be giving Toyota any of my money for my next vehicle purchase. I currently have the 2nd generation and will take damn good care of it. When it's time for a new truck, I'm not sure what I'll end up getting, but it won't be this crap. GMC AT4X 🤔
I live in a community where everyone has a 1500 Chevy or Ram, F150, or Tundra. None of 'em do almost anything that would justify owning a truck, except tow a camper maybe 2-4 times a year. That's why Toyota won't listen to customers like us. We're a minuscule minority compared to these new pickup buyers that don't really need a truck at all, who trade their trucks long before a power lift gate fails. They just want to make living rooms with tiny stubby beds that still somehow get labeled as pickup trucks. Pathetic really, but Toyota still loves the money.
Smart ass engineers trying to slowly adding the features each year that's why they dont have tow hook, each year they add more features they go up on price.
Jeff, I am thinking about getting a standard size power moonroof with my new purchase of a 2025 Camry LE. Do you think this is. a good idea or will I have problems with it over 15-20 years?
You're buying a car with a big hole cut in the roof. You'll likely have an issue at some point. That said of you get a sunroof learn what proper maintenance is for it and where the drain tubes are and how to keep them clean. A sunroof definitely requires maintenance. For me I wouldn't pay extra for the added work and grief.
Dudes, the 2025 model engines are being made with an upgraded alloy. It's not a secret. All of the 2024 or ealier models that need new engines will get that one.
But they're ignoring the hybrids, that have the exact same engine with the same problem. There's just no government pressure to fix it because the electric motor can still get you off the highway if/when the engine dies, so Toyota isn't recalling those.
But that engine issue isn't even being offered a fix on the hybrids since the electric motor can still get you off the highway when the gas engine dies. So they're just fixing the non-hybrids and ignoring everyone else. It's the same engine with the same shortcomings but there isn't pressure from the government to fix it because of what I said above.
Why doesn't Toyota put the power inverters in these trucks like the Grand Highlander Iforce and the Tacoma IForce. Ford has been doing this on the F150 hybrid since 2021. Come on Toyota.
Because new pickup truck buyers are too ignorant to know how weak and limited a 400 watt outlet is. They just see the outlet and think it's as strong as a common 15 or 20 amp outlet in a house.
@@happycamper6352 That sucks. We upgraded our RAV4 Prime to the top trim just to get a 1500W outlet. It's such a game changer being able to run most of our trailer when camping. It even run's the AC as long as we don't use the microwave. So strange.. even the RAV4 Hybrid has a 1500W outlet, but the Tundra (a work truck) does not. Can't figure it out for the life of me.
@@GoldenK9Campers If you have the prime, you have a great car. You will likely never need gas for everyday driving and will only need it on long trips.
@@happycamper6352 Oh.. I love it. Just need something larger for towing. The Tacoma is the only truck Toyota makes with an inverter. Would hate to have to move to an F150 Hybrid.
@@GoldenK9Campers Tundra can come with a 400w inverter. Just don't exceed 400w with it. That rules out vacuums, air compressors, plug in non battery tools, and many other things. You can, however, run a tool battery charger or laptop charger or lighting if under 400w. I have it on my Tacoma, but wish it was more wattage for actual plug in tools.
I'm glad I bought my tundra when it still had a real motor the 5.7 I'm sorry I don't care about having a full size truck that has a v-6 motor in it even if it makes a little more power I can make that v-8 have more and they sound better toyota messed up going the v-6 route in my opinion
If you're buying a truck for the sound... Stop buying pickup trucks. You're the reason they charge us extra for fake engine noise in the audio system. What a waste. Go do something productive and stop talking about engine sound. (This said by a dude typing RUclips comments, I know lol...)
@happycamper6352 believe I said I like how they sound not the reason for buying the truck if ur going to make a comment like that don't assume something I never said and just for ur smart ass response I bought the truck because I've always owned toyota because in my opinion they make trucks that last because my first tundra that I still have has over 400 thousand and it has never been in a shop besides brakes and stuff like that
@@jes5434 I probably deserved that, as it was a bit unfairly harsh, but I get really worked up when I find fake engine noise that is bundled without a non-bundling option for higher performance hardware. Your first one that you say lasted so long was a real truck. I have no trouble believing that at all. We're already seeing tons (yes, literally and measurably tons) of failing Tundra engines, despite them all being less than 3 years old. Everyone wants to "feel something" when they drive their pickup truck, like they're trying to compensate for not feeling something without it. I don't need a truck to make me feel something, I need it to do something. I just saw a review of a Tundra where the sticker said that it only had 1300 pounds for payload... My old beat up Tacoma has 1280 (2009 access cab off-road) and I'm looking to replace it soon with something that can haul and tow more through some rough WV unimproved roads. The review truck can carry only 20 more pounds... that's less than two and a half gallons of milk difference for ~$70,000! I wish I could find your old Tundra, it's still probably in good shape and can haul more. I could probably toss in a load of oak and still have plenty of suspension travel.
@happycamper6352 I drive it to this very day it's been the best truck I have ever had I love toyota I was very disappointed to see them go the same way as all the other companies because they have always stood above the rest un my opinion and they was no reason for changing in my opinion
Will never buy one without the V8. Make the vehicles simpler and less expensive. I could not possibly care less about a power tailgate. Seriously you can't pull a lever and open and close it by hand. Just more unnecessary crap to breakdown and cost you thousands to fix.
Over engineering a simple tailgate is asking for trouble..get rid of the soccer mom useless features and lower the price 10k... bring back the 5.7 or I'll keep my "old" tundra..
A somewhat full sized pick up with small corolla seats. No large front seat available. More of a 2+2, rather than roomy for adults, front and back seat. Toyota went for cheap rather than a pick up for adults.
No. No. Just... Stop. If you want nice seats, buy a car or SUV. Automakers have to stop listening to people that whine about comfort and they need to start going back to making trucks that can be trucks again. One row of seating, 8 foot bed, strong towing, off road strong, recovery points front and rear, and affordable for actual laborers that get work done.
If you're basing your truck buying decision on which one has a tailgate that you can raise and lower with a button, there is something seriously wrong with your brain.
@@wasichuwacanta7010 lol who would do that? But it is also important for me to tell people about new features that come out on all vehicles. Thanks for watching!
The 5.0 coyote can get close to 20mpg when driven with some sense …. the 5.7 toyota gets about 14-15mpg & 4.6 gets about 16-17 mpg both great motors but neither can get close to the economy of the coyote …i don’t count the GM motors because they still haven’t figured out their AFM system after 15 years of headaches
😂Great features for a truck whos engine will fail at 10k miles of you are lucky. We all know the new Tundras are Garbage. Im just glad i kept my 2016 V8
That power tailgate is a mechanically complex solution to a nonexistent problem. When that motor craps out, and it will, do you really want that expense???
lets face it a real truck guy is not interested in a power liftgate. It's just something extra to break over time.
I can see someone accidentally activating it to lower it and it lowers right onto something causing damage. Seems like an accident waiting to happen 🤷🏻♂️
I wouldn't be so confident in saying "nonexistent problem". If I am carrying bulky stuff that requires two hands operation, I can give it a simply knee tap instead of dropping down the items to close the tailgate then pick the items back. How reliable it is going to be will be up to Toyota to figure out, but it certainly is useful feature and help sales.
I love my 2008 Tundra crew max but the light weight self lowering tailgate that folded in half under load is it’s only let down.
Your comment clearly saying that you never owned a Toyota !!??
I love the look I just wish bumper steps came standard on Toyotas trucks.
finally! tailgate step coming in 2030?
Toyota Jeff be like, "ah, push it…push real good!”
Hahahahahahaha I love music
@@Toyotajeff Keep it going…your videos are the best. I can see the new Toyota’s coming out…and enjoy the Gen X jams!
Just more that will break! Really not necessary. Simplicity is best!!!
That's pretty cool. Do the '25 models have motors that don't blow up? ....still waiting on my recall for my '22 😭
This is what I like, step by step procedures how to opererate things.
You know what's better than this? My 2019 5.7 v8
I totally agree I hav 2020 5.7 that tows no problems
Dont want to see all the gimicks, what have they done about the engine?
Have they fixed the interior fit squeeks and rattles? The whistling door seals? The lack of cargo room in the hybrid models? Does it have front tow hooks yet? Is there an inverter in the bed area yet? Are the approach and departure angles still worst in class? Is the turning radius still horrendous? Is the premium jbl stereo still worst in class?
Just curious if they have made any improvements.
Yes, all of these problems still exist, except, the inverter has always been available since 2022, although pathetic at 400 watts. Please don't complain about lack of interior cargo space. This is not a sedan, crossover, or SUV and complaints like yours further the problem of over-bloated cabs and stupid short stubby beds. If you want interior space, don't get a pickup truck or put a cap/topper on the bed.
Regarding cargo room. My 2014 has hardly any interior cargo space. Fast forward to 2024 and the hybrid not only takes a relatively flat floor but takes the entire flat floor.
It's a de evolution and sheer incompetence by a design team that had a decade to get it right.
The engine is a boat anchor but toyota is now in the gingerbread buisness just like GM with that stupid tailgate . What a waste of money.
I thought u were wearing a UPS uniform at first. lol. Good review!
@@josephsantangelo2801 that would be cool lol
Should have never got rid of 5.7. Will drive my reliable one with 5.7 till it's ready for junk yard. Then get a truck with a 8 Cylinder
I had the 2007 crew max and 2014 crew max 5.7. No problems. My 2007 had 610,00km. Looked and ran brand new. I wish I never sold it. My 2022 Limited..well..My payments are $357 every friday and I am on my 3rd motor...also..little snow on the front grill and my dash lights up
The Autumn Leaf Package 🤣
It’s virtually a must-have
oh, yes! bring that back to toyota on the next recall
I do love that tailgate. I hope the motor is strong enough to open and close even after putting a tonneau cover on it.
Tonneau covers are a joke. If you want a cover, get a proper topper/cap or buy an SUV.
No tow hooks 🤦🏾♂️ yeah, Toyota is really listening/caring about customers feedback. At least make em' optional 😒
I though by now after three years it would have tow hooks. Who the F cares about an electronic tail gate that in the long run will have a mechanical issue in about 6 years from wear
@PHILLIPS8822 Exactly. I will not be giving Toyota any of my money for my next vehicle purchase. I currently have the 2nd generation and will take damn good care of it. When it's time for a new truck, I'm not sure what I'll end up getting, but it won't be this crap. GMC AT4X 🤔
I live in a community where everyone has a 1500 Chevy or Ram, F150, or Tundra. None of 'em do almost anything that would justify owning a truck, except tow a camper maybe 2-4 times a year. That's why Toyota won't listen to customers like us. We're a minuscule minority compared to these new pickup buyers that don't really need a truck at all, who trade their trucks long before a power lift gate fails. They just want to make living rooms with tiny stubby beds that still somehow get labeled as pickup trucks. Pathetic really, but Toyota still loves the money.
Smart ass engineers trying to slowly adding the features each year that's why they dont have tow hook, each year they add more features they go up on price.
62000 plus fees and taxes $72000 and then deal with high interest you will be over $1000 payments you won’t get any penny from me toyota.
Hey bro just here to show support
@@HumorBoomer thanks man!!
Just picked up my 25' Platinum with TRD pack. My Bed step isn't power? What happened Toyota?
Jeff, I am thinking about getting a standard size power moonroof with my new purchase of a 2025 Camry LE. Do you think this is. a good idea or will I have problems with it over 15-20 years?
i owned a 1999 4runner with moon roof and never had any issues & my Aunt had a lexus from around the same era and never had any issues….
@@thisdayage7997 Great! thanks
You're buying a car with a big hole cut in the roof. You'll likely have an issue at some point. That said of you get a sunroof learn what proper maintenance is for it and where the drain tubes are and how to keep them clean. A sunroof definitely requires maintenance. For me I wouldn't pay extra for the added work and grief.
@@rickp6391 Ok thanks for your advice!
But what if you don't want any of the distributor options ?
Are they bringing back the 5.7 and did they improve payload capacities?
Almost no new pickup buyer puts any weight in their beds anymore. They buy a pickup to say they have a pickup. Pathetic.
So what, how about the friking engine ….it is FIX , you spend 10 minutes on the tail gate…..Really, get with program😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dudes, the 2025 model engines are being made with an upgraded alloy. It's not a secret. All of the 2024 or ealier models that need new engines will get that one.
That's why you never buy new vehicles.
Never seen the 4 gen Tundra on the side of the road either so the press is off kilter a good bit tbh
But they're ignoring the hybrids, that have the exact same engine with the same problem. There's just no government pressure to fix it because the electric motor can still get you off the highway if/when the engine dies, so Toyota isn't recalling those.
There has been a 2025 with the same Engine Bearing Issues!! YIKES
I guess the only thing good with it is the tail gate? Call me when they fix their engine issue.
But that engine issue isn't even being offered a fix on the hybrids since the electric motor can still get you off the highway when the gas engine dies. So they're just fixing the non-hybrids and ignoring everyone else. It's the same engine with the same shortcomings but there isn't pressure from the government to fix it because of what I said above.
Damn that looks good. 👍🏼
Let me guess...an engine that wont fail
rather than making better engine, better price, reliable , Toyota adding useless stuffs like power tailgate and ISO seats.
Just something else to add to cost list. Do we really need this🤔
Picking up my 25' Platinum with TRD PKG tomorrow.
How much?
How much were you able to negotiate after the initial msrp discount they offered
@@Sahasra_doesrandomthings I received a total of 8k off MSRP. Initially they offered me $6,500 off.
Why doesn't Toyota put the power inverters in these trucks like the Grand Highlander Iforce and the Tacoma IForce. Ford has been doing this on the F150 hybrid since 2021. Come on Toyota.
Because new pickup truck buyers are too ignorant to know how weak and limited a 400 watt outlet is. They just see the outlet and think it's as strong as a common 15 or 20 amp outlet in a house.
@@happycamper6352 That sucks. We upgraded our RAV4 Prime to the top trim just to get a 1500W outlet. It's such a game changer being able to run most of our trailer when camping. It even run's the AC as long as we don't use the microwave. So strange.. even the RAV4 Hybrid has a 1500W outlet, but the Tundra (a work truck) does not. Can't figure it out for the life of me.
@@GoldenK9Campers If you have the prime, you have a great car. You will likely never need gas for everyday driving and will only need it on long trips.
@@happycamper6352 Oh.. I love it. Just need something larger for towing. The Tacoma is the only truck Toyota makes with an inverter. Would hate to have to move to an F150 Hybrid.
@@GoldenK9Campers Tundra can come with a 400w inverter. Just don't exceed 400w with it. That rules out vacuums, air compressors, plug in non battery tools, and many other things. You can, however, run a tool battery charger or laptop charger or lighting if under 400w. I have it on my Tacoma, but wish it was more wattage for actual plug in tools.
Sun of a gun rubbing it in i got a 2024 three months ago
Still not worth 70000 dollars.They are gonna have to do more that that to keep customers
If you need an electrical tailgate you dont need a truck.
I hate to break it to you the powered tailgate has been around for a while
I'm glad I bought my tundra when it still had a real motor the 5.7 I'm sorry I don't care about having a full size truck that has a v-6 motor in it even if it makes a little more power I can make that v-8 have more and they sound better toyota messed up going the v-6 route in my opinion
If you're buying a truck for the sound... Stop buying pickup trucks. You're the reason they charge us extra for fake engine noise in the audio system. What a waste. Go do something productive and stop talking about engine sound. (This said by a dude typing RUclips comments, I know lol...)
@happycamper6352 believe I said I like how they sound not the reason for buying the truck if ur going to make a comment like that don't assume something I never said and just for ur smart ass response I bought the truck because I've always owned toyota because in my opinion they make trucks that last because my first tundra that I still have has over 400 thousand and it has never been in a shop besides brakes and stuff like that
@@jes5434 I probably deserved that, as it was a bit unfairly harsh, but I get really worked up when I find fake engine noise that is bundled without a non-bundling option for higher performance hardware. Your first one that you say lasted so long was a real truck. I have no trouble believing that at all. We're already seeing tons (yes, literally and measurably tons) of failing Tundra engines, despite them all being less than 3 years old. Everyone wants to "feel something" when they drive their pickup truck, like they're trying to compensate for not feeling something without it. I don't need a truck to make me feel something, I need it to do something. I just saw a review of a Tundra where the sticker said that it only had 1300 pounds for payload... My old beat up Tacoma has 1280 (2009 access cab off-road) and I'm looking to replace it soon with something that can haul and tow more through some rough WV unimproved roads. The review truck can carry only 20 more pounds... that's less than two and a half gallons of milk difference for ~$70,000! I wish I could find your old Tundra, it's still probably in good shape and can haul more. I could probably toss in a load of oak and still have plenty of suspension travel.
@happycamper6352 I drive it to this very day it's been the best truck I have ever had I love toyota I was very disappointed to see them go the same way as all the other companies because they have always stood above the rest un my opinion and they was no reason for changing in my opinion
More fancy shit that will break and cost lots of money. Also more reason for insurance companies to total it.
I just want a simple truck.
I like it
Tundra no problem the king 👑
Will never buy one without the V8. Make the vehicles simpler and less expensive. I could not possibly care less about a power tailgate. Seriously you can't pull a lever and open and close it by hand. Just more unnecessary crap to breakdown and cost you thousands to fix.
The old Toyota tailgates are simply so lightweight you don’t need this stupid feature….
Just bring back simple trucks.
Who needs the complexity...we are getting way too soft.
Now if only they would fix how it looks.😂
Over engineering a simple tailgate is asking for trouble..get rid of the soccer mom useless features and lower the price 10k... bring back the 5.7 or I'll keep my "old" tundra..
It was too expensive. Tailgate😮. It's not a working truck.
A somewhat full sized pick up with small corolla seats. No large front seat available. More of a 2+2, rather than roomy for adults, front and back seat. Toyota went for cheap rather than a pick up for adults.
No. No. Just... Stop. If you want nice seats, buy a car or SUV. Automakers have to stop listening to people that whine about comfort and they need to start going back to making trucks that can be trucks again. One row of seating, 8 foot bed, strong towing, off road strong, recovery points front and rear, and affordable for actual laborers that get work done.
Another reason to not buy this gimmick doesn’t have sense truck is for work. This is first think what gonna go out.
How lazy does someone need to get to need a button to open and close a tailgate? Stupid option that will cost a lot when it breaks.
lol
Looks expensive
Overpriced with the same junk engine
Dont care about the stupid tailgate would rather have a flatbed
Dear Toyota….make a Honda Ridgeline based on the grand highlander with the same engines as the GH….
If you're basing your truck buying decision on which one has a tailgate that you can raise and lower with a button, there is something seriously wrong with your brain.
@@wasichuwacanta7010 lol who would do that? But it is also important for me to tell people about new features that come out on all vehicles. Thanks for watching!
@@Toyotajeff You spent over 3 minutes showing all the different ways...to push a button!
Jesus… all the comments are this is a POS. And it is. Keeping my 2019!
If it only had a V8. Ford has a V8 option. Get with it Toyota!
The 5.0 coyote can get close to 20mpg when driven with some sense …. the 5.7 toyota gets about 14-15mpg & 4.6 gets about 16-17 mpg both great motors but neither can get close to the economy of the coyote …i don’t count the GM motors because they still haven’t figured out their AFM system after 15 years of headaches
@@TwinTurboToyota and you will also enjoy the cost of replacing the turbos at some point.
@@thisdayage7997 No one buys a truck for MPG it's big and heavy it will never get good MPG. buy a car if you want MPG.
@@TwinTurboToyota Better save up then they are usually good for 150k or so.
New for 25 it's still a pos.
Worthless. I can open and close my own damn tailgate
Some real miserable people hee in the comments....
What a waste
Boo
Power tailgate is a stupid feature. Old man level crap
😂Great features for a truck whos engine will fail at 10k miles of you are lucky. We all know the new Tundras are Garbage. Im just glad i kept my 2016 V8
I had same year. Very good, very strong, very gas thirsty. Got rid of it, only for gas issue.
Any truck without a tow hook is a turn off.
Looks soooo dang cheap!