Chevy Silverado ZR2 vs Toyota Tundra TRD Pro Off-Road - Same Bad Weather But Which One Wins?

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  • @ryansheard8092
    @ryansheard8092 2 года назад +355

    Roman, stop being scared 😜. That weather is awesome for a video review of trucks! We want to see more of these types of vids.

    • @lunamaria1048
      @lunamaria1048 2 года назад +14

      He was crying about that weather, just a bit🤣

    • @skookapalooza2016
      @skookapalooza2016 2 года назад +5

      If the truck gets struck by lightning, it might be totalled because it would fry the electrical system. In light of that, his caution makes sense, not to mention the safety of the camera man.

    • @windycitywarrior71
      @windycitywarrior71 2 года назад +14

      @@skookapalooza2016 called insurance and living your life!

    • @lunamaria1048
      @lunamaria1048 2 года назад +17

      @@skookapalooza2016 Not true.. Vehicles are well insulated from lightning strikes and frequently take hits and just keep on driving ... RUclips is full of cars getting hit by lightning.

    • @Dsmpunk59
      @Dsmpunk59 2 года назад +15

      Roman needs to just focus on the administrative side of TFL and get out from in front of the camera- it’s time

  • @FreakyT333
    @FreakyT333 2 года назад +112

    What a great idea to call in the rain and thunderstorm to make that trail run at least somewhat challenging for those off-road beasts 😉

  • @TheMeanmarine13
    @TheMeanmarine13 Год назад +41

    As a life long die hard Ford guy, I have to admit I really like both of these trucks. Especially the looks and color of that Silverado. And the torque numbers on that tundra are insane! Great review fellas 👏 👌.

    • @MrFordguy73
      @MrFordguy73 Месяц назад

      They had a Ford powerboost versus the TRD hybrid, the power boost walked away, and the TRD is ready to have higher torque numbers. I own a power boost, and it is quick.

  • @joshuaschreiner2559
    @joshuaschreiner2559 2 года назад +107

    Great job!
    80 % of the population can't afford a $70,000 truck.
    But I like that you compared the zr2 to the Toyota and not a trx or raptor.
    I don't think chevy had it in mind to compete directly with the raptor or trx.
    But they did try to make it a little more affordable for the little people.
    In az it's hard to find a new raptor or trx under 90,000.
    Great job chevy !!
    And Toyota but the no front tow hooks I simply don't understand

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 2 года назад +3

      At least my 2020 Tundra has tow hooks. Wish it had a tranny cooler as well.

    • @rdramos13
      @rdramos13 2 года назад +21

      $70k was expensive ten years ago, two years ago, and today. Doesn't matter where the "market" is at.

    • @imnottellinudontwannaknow3188
      @imnottellinudontwannaknow3188 2 года назад

      Theyre gonna be available soon i believe

    • @SuperSnakePlissken
      @SuperSnakePlissken 2 года назад

      @@rdramos13 Bidenflation is real!

    • @Steve-yr5vi
      @Steve-yr5vi 2 года назад +3

      You can get a nicely quipped F150 FX4 4x4 for $39k, the Tremor is lifted 1" over an FX4.... other than that it only has the optional Raptor front diff. Sure no leather seats, etc.

  • @TonyStark-or3er
    @TonyStark-or3er 2 года назад +16

    Love the chemistry all the TFL crew has amongst each other, makes watching the videos fun/enjoyable.

  • @Reu_ag
    @Reu_ag 2 года назад +28

    Both did great no traction loss at all,maybe the new 4runner might get the front lockers like the land cruiser 300

  • @joshuahoffbuhr1476
    @joshuahoffbuhr1476 2 года назад +2

    Glad you guys touched it out in the rain. Made for a pretty cool video.

  • @Matthew-ei2ou
    @Matthew-ei2ou 2 года назад +102

    Really good to see a video on the ZR2...seems like most the attention lately has been towards EV and Lighing. Would love to see this truck make the up coming trip with the Lighting

    • @Bigben-pz8bx
      @Bigben-pz8bx 2 года назад +2

      You know ford wouldn’t like that. Having a Chevy chase truck

  • @lavaka09
    @lavaka09 2 года назад +46

    I would love to see this zr2 in 35s doing all this obstacles again.

    • @andyham6094
      @andyham6094 2 года назад +2

      It’s same size tires as the tundra. Both have 33s from the factory. Wouldn’t be fair to the tundra if they only put 35s on the zr2 but I agree 35’s are the sweet spot tire size for these full size half ton trucks. 35’s give it the perfect look and stance.

    • @gatordunn
      @gatordunn 2 года назад

      And the tundra, please do a tundra vs ZR2 vs Raptor all in 35's comparison, lol they would never.

    • @lavaka09
      @lavaka09 2 года назад +1

      @@andyham6094 does the tundra belongs to them? I know the zr2 does thats why im saying they should get 35 and see what difference it makes on the same obstacles

    • @brettbonine7194
      @brettbonine7194 2 года назад +2

      I just put 285 70r 17s on my colorado zr2 and it's such a big difference, it shpuld have come stock with that size just like the Silveradozr2 should have come with 35s. I don't know why chevy will have a high tier offroad truck and not use the proper tire size.

    • @lavaka09
      @lavaka09 2 года назад +1

      @@brettbonine7194 they're saving that for the bison silverado thats going to add at least 10k to msrp

  • @loytowse8140
    @loytowse8140 2 года назад +26

    You guys have the best job in the world. Thanks for another great video. I think the storm added to the excitement!

  • @danramirez4290
    @danramirez4290 Год назад

    Love the banter - your channels are only getting better!! Keep them coming.

  • @jareddodge1985
    @jareddodge1985 2 года назад +38

    If I could afford either of those I would go with the zr2

  • @ryandelannoy2198
    @ryandelannoy2198 2 года назад +180

    If Toyota changes the front and rear bumper and include recovery points, I would be in the market for the Tundra but I don't see that happening. It still suprises me how they would create such a good truck without base level truck features on a $70k rig.

    • @brandonlo5162
      @brandonlo5162 2 года назад +62

      Still can't believe Toyota said their reason for no recovery points up front even in the trd pro is because of aerodynamics. Like someone buying a full sized truck is totally gonna care about aerodynamics.

    • @truckerrickakamanowar
      @truckerrickakamanowar 2 года назад +15

      Yeah completely agree. If Im buying a truck it should have basic truck things. That's a big ass fail. Im usually leaning toward Toyota's but in the video vs the Chevy it lost as far as Im concerned. Who cares about the gimmicks like light bar in the grill, it's nice ...but nothing the aftermarket couldn't fix. My question is where do you do a front recovery on that thing without possibly doing some serious damage?

    • @truckerrickakamanowar
      @truckerrickakamanowar 2 года назад

      They did the same thing with their so called Rav4 Trd Pro.

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 2 года назад +3

      @@truckerrickakamanowar Since i am a big fan of MATTS OFF ROAD RECOVERY, the solution i see are soft shackles. In deep mud it would be a pain to put them on or put them on in advance.

    • @truckerrickakamanowar
      @truckerrickakamanowar 2 года назад +1

      @@mikefoehr235 Im also a fan. I guess we'll see at some point. Take care. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

  • @christinoumel2291
    @christinoumel2291 2 года назад +13

    Wish these trucks weren't so darned expensive. I remember when $30k was too much! lol.

  • @BIGJBIGEBIGC
    @BIGJBIGEBIGC 2 года назад

    You can tell these two had awesome fun today thanks to the elements and the impromptu review

  • @douglasvieira1990dv
    @douglasvieira1990dv 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the dedication to making this video I really enjoyed it !

  • @ms1406
    @ms1406 2 года назад +19

    Can yall please do more videos of the trucks in rain!! They look really good in rain! I want to go off roading in the rain now!!!!

  • @meme-yc4ks
    @meme-yc4ks 2 года назад +192

    Main thing were testing here is our checkbooks with those 1000$ a month truck payments. 😂😂😂👎 NO THANKS

    • @jasoncampeau2948
      @jasoncampeau2948 Год назад +16

      Most ppl trade there old trucks for almost what they paid for 3-4 years ago, so it’s not that bad on payments

    • @MonsterZ123
      @MonsterZ123 Год назад +30

      A thousand a month on a truck is worth it if you use it for making money and work

    • @brianvasquez4484
      @brianvasquez4484 Год назад

      No shit if motherfuckers would just not buy any cars for 6 moths you'd see the price of vehicles fall all the way to hell

    • @CodBoomer18
      @CodBoomer18 Год назад +31

      But really..70k is the new 50k

    • @johnsims709
      @johnsims709 Год назад +14

      F en joke when incomes aren’t going to catch up for a decade 🤬

  • @kLFJDVKVDJDGF
    @kLFJDVKVDJDGF Год назад +1

    Really enjoyed the video during the storm. Real world testing at its best.

  • @KErtter1
    @KErtter1 2 года назад +8

    Love the ZR2 content! Y’all are funny!

  • @krasnaludek298
    @krasnaludek298 2 года назад +65

    Love that ZR2 … absolute solid mix of on road comfort & moderate trail capability. 👍🏻

    • @jimmysmith3255
      @jimmysmith3255 2 года назад +12

      To bad reliability sucks ass. Lucky if chevys can make it to 100k nowadays

    • @ironsaint
      @ironsaint 2 года назад +5

      Too bad the reliability blows ass. If not it would be solid.

    • @clubtc05
      @clubtc05 2 года назад +4

      @@ironsaint I am a Tundra guy, but I really would get the ZR2 in a heartbeat if the reliability was there.

    • @johnharmon1193
      @johnharmon1193 2 года назад +4

      clothe seats and no sunroof for 70k..ya chevy is sweet

    • @mybro727
      @mybro727 2 года назад +17

      @@jimmysmith3255 Absolutely hilarious that Toyota fanboys go-to is still unwavering reliability despite all the unreliabilities and quality control issues people are experiencing with the Tundra. 😂

  • @motivatedcb5837
    @motivatedcb5837 2 года назад +20

    It’s about time they have a new truck with front and rear locking differential!

    • @StubProductions
      @StubProductions Год назад

      Jeep Rubicon bruh

    • @motivatedcb5837
      @motivatedcb5837 Год назад

      @@StubProductions that’s why I said truck not Jeep. I have a Jeep Rubicon.

    • @StubProductions
      @StubProductions Год назад

      @@motivatedcb5837 They make a truck…. Jeep Rubicon Gladiator

    • @motivatedcb5837
      @motivatedcb5837 Год назад

      @@StubProductions still a Jeep

    • @StubProductions
      @StubProductions Год назад

      @@motivatedcb5837 Lol! It’s got a bed like a truck. It’s a Jeep AND a truck

  • @Skraals
    @Skraals Год назад

    Awesome video, loved how it was pouring amd you guys went through with it, really fun!

  • @JPD617
    @JPD617 2 года назад +90

    Great video! I owned a 2015 Toyota Tundra, was a great truck other than the mpg. Out of these two trucks I'd choose the Chevy. Not a fan of what Toyota did to the front end, and lack of recovery points. The Chevy having front and rear lockers is awesome...

    • @mrjjthor
      @mrjjthor 2 года назад +12

      Agreed. The new tundra is hideous from all angles imo and I've owned three Tundras so far.

    • @kwmiked
      @kwmiked 2 года назад +7

      Actually the Tundra is pretty nice once u see it in person. Office guy got a Platinum, im surprised how nice it is. I will take it over the GM. GM stuff just doesn't wow me, always something in the truck that reminds me of the 88 caviler

    • @JPD617
      @JPD617 2 года назад +7

      There's no doubt the Tundra has proven it's reliability and the interior looks nice. That damn front end is hard to love 😂. I think the GM trucks finally did the interior right, prior to this version I would agree with the generic Caviler comment. But hey the Z-24 was a fun car back in the day 🙂🙂.

    • @terrarecon
      @terrarecon 2 года назад +8

      @James Dugan, I agree. I currently own a 2010 Tundra, love it. MPG Sucks but is sold and I will never sell it. Regarding choices between these two trucks here, I'll take the Chevrolet ZR2. I don't like what Toyota did with the 2022 Tundra, neither do my Toyota mechanics that work on my truck when needed.

    • @alwaysiyi272
      @alwaysiyi272 2 года назад +3

      If you haven’t seen the be tundra in person, you have to, in my opinion, it changes your perspective, it changed mine at least. Thought the tundra was ugly saw a 1794 and platinum in person and I actually really liked it

  • @15Stammer
    @15Stammer 2 года назад +26

    Proud zr2 owner here! The updated interior has really impressed me and the ride is fantastic!

    • @whowicho9064
      @whowicho9064 Год назад +1

      Nice… Looking to get one myself in the near future if not the at4x. Are the new seats comfy? I have a trail boss lt rn and seats are crap lol

    • @15Stammer
      @15Stammer Год назад

      @@whowicho9064 I would say the only seats that beat them out are in the ram rebel and trx. I’m a tall guy and wish they made the lumbar support a touch higher but that would be my only complaint for the seats.

    • @dr.emilschaffhausen4683
      @dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Год назад

      Any issues after 5 months?

    • @fredrandle8994
      @fredrandle8994 Год назад

      Only thing I don't like about my zr2 is that the seats are to hard for long trips

    • @mightymumu89
      @mightymumu89 Год назад

      I've had my ZR2 for about a month now and absolutely love it!! The wife laughs at me because I try to come up with every little excuse to go driving in it 😂

  • @BYLRPhil
    @BYLRPhil 2 года назад +12

    I love wheeling in storms like this :-)

  • @youarerightboss
    @youarerightboss 2 года назад +8

    Love that 6.2 liter V-8

  • @kingpin3919
    @kingpin3919 2 года назад

    Good stuff as always fellas. Both trucks are sweet.

  • @normrubio
    @normrubio 2 года назад +48

    The suspension arms on the rear axle really dip low on the ZR2.
    Sayin that, the ZR2 seemed to be the better off-road. The TRD seems to be extremely bulky, bumpers look too cumbersome.

    • @dennissmith7214
      @dennissmith7214 2 года назад +22

      No front recovery points, no front lockers, approach angle and plastic up front make it not even an off-roader in my book😳…………it’s for show mostly!

    • @iandl9147
      @iandl9147 2 года назад +4

      @@dennissmith7214 yep exactly

    • @allenmcdonald1652
      @allenmcdonald1652 2 года назад +13

      I agree with the first part of what you said, but not the second part. The ZR2 IS a better off roader because of the approach/departure angles, front locker, and tow hooks. However the TRD pro ran all of the trails in this video every bit as well as the ZR2 which shows it is definitely NOT just for show, it’s just not quite on par with the Zed. However I believe the Tundra would still do 98% plus what most people would ever dream of attempting.

    • @alwaysiyi272
      @alwaysiyi272 2 года назад +3

      @@dennissmith7214 I wouldn’t say it’s for show, I don’t think it’s as good as the ZR2, I think the tundra need bigger tires and a raked front end but it performed just as well as the ZR2 in this test

    • @paulhunter9613
      @paulhunter9613 2 года назад +3

      @@dennissmith7214 a mall crawler at best

  • @Torsee
    @Torsee 2 года назад +21

    Carful with the Toyota!
    The rear axles may fall out!
    New recall

    • @flight2k5
      @flight2k5 2 года назад +4

      😂🤣 you didn’t even read the recall did you? Naw you just repeated what you heard.

    • @Welcometofacsistube
      @Welcometofacsistube 2 года назад +4

      But but but but Toyota best!!!

    • @flight2k5
      @flight2k5 2 года назад +2

      @@Welcometofacsistube but but but they are. How many million mile domestics are their on the road 😂🤣

    • @Welcometofacsistube
      @Welcometofacsistube 2 года назад

      @@flight2k5 more than you think. And less Toyotas than you think, son.
      The only thing that reliable with Toyotas are the fist sized rust holes within 3 years.
      Toyota: the most overhyped garbage on the planet

  • @johnnytrout8988
    @johnnytrout8988 Год назад +3

    That was a great review of both trucks. I would chose the ZR2. That's the way to review them. In a storm.

  • @davidcisneros4400
    @davidcisneros4400 Год назад

    Awesome video! You guys are great! 🤓

  • @tarfeef101
    @tarfeef101 2 года назад +4

    Can you add some cross-ditches to your testing courses? Those are probably the biggest obstacle that stops cars from being able to go further up trails in my area, and I'd love to be able to include practical demonstrations into my purchasing decisions

  • @mohammedaldarwish2483
    @mohammedaldarwish2483 Год назад +40

    There is no doubt that the ZR2 was more confident in crossing the rough terrains, and damn it looks way more attractive.

  • @anthonywarren3656
    @anthonywarren3656 2 года назад +2

    Nothing scares Andre the Russian bear! Great video guys. Actually pretty cool to see a video while in a storm.

  • @VDawg-cr1gb
    @VDawg-cr1gb 2 года назад +14

    Just based on looks alone I’d go with the ZR2. For offroad……I’d go with the ZR2 also. But I already know there’ll be more aftermarket for the Tundra

    • @vu7419
      @vu7419 2 года назад +2

      zr2 is better stock. Tundra has a higher ceiling

    • @krasnaludek298
      @krasnaludek298 2 года назад +7

      Easy choice … ZR2 is such a great platform; doesn’t even need much in the way of aftermarket “help.”

    • @JROC734
      @JROC734 2 года назад +3

      Since when has a GM 1/2 ton had a small aftermarket? Even if it doesn't have the same kind of aftermarket as a GEN3/GEN4 LSx the GEN5 LTx still has a decent size aftermarket, and likely one bigger than the new Toyota V6 TT engine will have. It even runs the same transmission as Mustang/Camaro/F150 which helps its aftermarket. The biggest deterrent to the Chevy's aftermarket is GM locking up their tuning abilities so tightly.
      With that said I'm sure the GEN3 Tundra will have a large enough aftermarket to be able to mod it however you want to.

  • @Mursedave
    @Mursedave 2 года назад +57

    Great video guys!! That Chevy has really impressive approach and departure angles. I was stressed watching that Toyota almost scrape multiple times. The bow tie made it look easy.

    • @paulhunter9613
      @paulhunter9613 2 года назад +6

      Cause it’s a real truck…

    • @Mursedave
      @Mursedave 2 года назад

      @@paulhunter9613 kind of 😀

    • @fredwilliams7893
      @fredwilliams7893 2 года назад +8

      @@paulhunter9613 real truck? My built 2013 tundra trd with bds suspension and 35s mud terrain tires would absolutely destroy that zr2! Tundras are real trucks chevy poser!

    • @lovellmills7959
      @lovellmills7959 2 года назад +20

      @@fredwilliams7893 so your comparing your "Built" truck too one that comes from the factory off road ready? Lol. The ZR2 would walk ur Tundra 🤣🤣

    • @paulhunter9613
      @paulhunter9613 2 года назад +16

      @@fredwilliams7893 and you proved my point, you had to modify your vehicle to be able to run with a Chevy😳😝

  • @navydoc8695
    @navydoc8695 2 года назад +3

    As soon as the Silverado ZR2 🦬 with Duramax option is out and AEV has high clearance fender kit for 35s or 37s I'm in.

  • @GreenSweeper
    @GreenSweeper 2 года назад +9

    Even more stoked about the Tundra TRD Pro after this video, mine started being manufactured on the 27 of this month, hopefully have it in had by end of next month!

  • @joekane6725
    @joekane6725 2 года назад +32

    Great video, we need more ZR2 content. That truck never stops amazing me. I got the AT4X and absolutely love this truck. I would like to see you take all three up the trail. I can see Nathan saying, but I have massaging seats!!!!

    • @richfarfugnuven6308
      @richfarfugnuven6308 2 года назад +1

      Just got the 3500 HD AT4 with the Duramax 3 days ago. Great truck so far. Can't wait to hook up my fifth wheel and hit the road.

    • @thethiefonthecross9092
      @thethiefonthecross9092 Год назад

      @@richfarfugnuven6308 I was going to get the at4-3500 but I just went with the Denali 4x4 3500

    • @richfarfugnuven6308
      @richfarfugnuven6308 Год назад

      @@thethiefonthecross9092 it towa ok here in CO. Needs more power.

    • @thethiefonthecross9092
      @thethiefonthecross9092 Год назад

      @@richfarfugnuven6308 you think it needs more power? I pulled my 34 ft camper and it seemed really strong I didn't get no hesitation but the new model that is coming out I believe it's the 2023 they say it has 25% more power at the beginning power range so I might trade mine in for that one LOL even though I think mine has enough power

    • @richfarfugnuven6308
      @richfarfugnuven6308 Год назад

      @@thethiefonthecross9092 I pull my 42 footer through CO all the time amd can only do 45 going up the Ike Gauntlet...

  • @homerfeltheim12345
    @homerfeltheim12345 2 года назад +22

    It feels like GM wanted to keep development and special parts as minimal as possible for the ZR2. I think they know the market, while hot, will be ending within the decade because of EV’s. Thankfully the aftermarket can fix the tire size issues

  • @wesshepard
    @wesshepard 2 года назад +3

    Great video guys, thanks for the content.

  • @koberoy5947
    @koberoy5947 Год назад +1

    I’m switching from a ford fusion (2013) to a 2022 tundra TRD off road. And tbh. When I took my fusion off roading because I fish in remote places, it made it through all these conditions shown. Some people are surprised but I just sent it and she made it just fine.

    • @02hreblue30
      @02hreblue30 Год назад

      lucky next owner of the Fusion LOL

  • @RoadRunnersEP
    @RoadRunnersEP 3 месяца назад

    I am so jealous you guys are in that environment driving really nice trucks!

  • @georgearevalo781
    @georgearevalo781 2 года назад +3

    Dig this video...I love that ZR2....awesome stuff as always Roman and Andre..Thank You

  • @VictorDeveze
    @VictorDeveze 2 года назад +20

    Well, Tundra is the only truck that has real Heim (R) rod ends, as in made by Heim in Connecticut. I work for RBC Bearings, we own the Heim division; we are looking to expand usage of actual Heim parts into the Tacoma as well. Funny people call them Heim joints but they are not made by us; auto makers went with cheap stuff, good to see Toyota coming back to actual US-made rod ends, with steel sourced from the US too

    • @mybro727
      @mybro727 2 года назад +2

      Would love to know who makes the steel for the Tundra’s tow hooks. Interesting team of engineers at Toyota…🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @ldmtag
      @ldmtag Год назад

      Yes, I envy you. Don't lie you didn't want to hear that.

    • @ldmtag
      @ldmtag Год назад

      @@traxxas_cars160 dude, they said "heim", not "hemi".

  • @carlitodeleon768
    @carlitodeleon768 Год назад

    I Love this Road test !!!

  • @ProCoach2373
    @ProCoach2373 2 года назад +32

    The gas mileage and front locker seem to be the major differences. I’m a Toyota truck guy, but the turbo and hybrid give me 2nd thoughts.

    • @allenmcdonald1652
      @allenmcdonald1652 2 года назад +11

      I agree totally! I know I am a crusty old man but small engines and twin turbos spells higher maintenance and repair, shorter engine life, and not really as much mpg gain under hard use in real world as on paper.

    • @theclueguy3388
      @theclueguy3388 2 года назад +5

      @@allenmcdonald1652 I think itll play out well. While the Landcruiser does have the electricity it does have the same v6. So if Toyota was confident to put it in the Landcruiser i think it'll prove to be a good engine. Especially after a few years of production. We all know Toyota likes to keep engines for as long as possible. They have also been using turbo diesels in their HINO trucks and other trucks for years so I think Toyota has some solid turbo tech under their belt.

    • @xdtrl3837
      @xdtrl3837 2 года назад +1

      That’s why I went with my 3rd Tundra with a 5.7 vs the new Twin turboed V6s. A 2017 TRD Pro.
      They definitely have become complacent with the Tundra now. The amount of small features you have to pay extra for such as a subscription for using the built in remote start. No step up from the bumper to the tailgate unless you want to pay extra for the food down step.
      For the cost of a house in some areas. Those small amenities shouldn’t be Extra or a monthly fee.

    • @allenmcdonald1652
      @allenmcdonald1652 2 года назад

      @xdtrl. Smart choice on your part imo. I decided to switch to Tacoma trd pro this time. I am very happy with it in general but sometimes I really miss the roomy cabin, the power, and that beautiful rumble exhaust. I also am not in love with the gear hunting transmission!

    • @killanige
      @killanige 2 года назад

      @@allenmcdonald1652 wrong. Ford has proven this wrong by a long shot. It's old and tired nonsense saying smaller engine turbo trucks are not long term reliable.

  • @rdsii64
    @rdsii64 2 года назад +9

    Because it doesn't have recovery points, I can't wait to see a TRD pro Tundra get stuck just to see how they go about getting it out.

    • @CACressida
      @CACressida 2 года назад

      This is nothing new. Hook to the lower control arms or rip the flimsy clipped on black center portion of the bumper and hook onto the frame rail.

    • @atlasstjames5904
      @atlasstjames5904 2 года назад +7

      Hook it too the ugly grill, Rip it off and then maybe it would look better

    • @thelosteddies
      @thelosteddies 2 года назад +3

      My 2WD Silverado even has them.

    • @rdsii64
      @rdsii64 2 года назад +2

      @@CACressida Thats kind of the point. You shouldn't have to remove the bumper on a $70K truck when you get if you get stuck.

    • @CACressida
      @CACressida 2 года назад +1

      @@rdsii64 and then some will say you shouldn't take a $70k truck offroad. You see, this was a total oversight on Toyotas behalf. They were so blind sided by the towhook debacle they're literally back to the drawing board to give the refresh some tow hooks. Every Toyota truck up until this new Tundra has had tow hooks. Even my 4 door toyota sedan has FOUR recovery points on the chassis.
      Either way, most people who do serious wheeling in their trucks rip off the garbage pedestrian friendly bumpers and put winch bumpers on anyway. Engineered for better approach angles, better protection, better recovery points and in my opinion, better looks.

  • @killerbuellxb12
    @killerbuellxb12 2 года назад +14

    Both trucks look awesome but the lower stance and clearance in the yota made me clinch my teeth with every angle and not so much with the ZR2

  • @josephkraft5640
    @josephkraft5640 Год назад

    My two favorite trucks! Both fantastic.

  • @shockindahouse4life
    @shockindahouse4life Год назад

    That’s the attitude Andre!!

  • @Ali-M2
    @Ali-M2 2 года назад +20

    Tundra is noticeably quieter than zr2

    • @Reu_ag
      @Reu_ag 2 года назад +1

      Yh cos it's a hybrid

    • @agent_bedrock5844
      @agent_bedrock5844 2 года назад +6

      @@Reu_ag and doesn't have a N/A v8 and performance exhaust

    • @garysarratt1
      @garysarratt1 2 года назад

      🙄

    • @devinplunkett9677
      @devinplunkett9677 2 года назад

      Its cause of the glass roof is much quieter in the rain

    • @allenmcdonald1652
      @allenmcdonald1652 2 года назад

      I definitely noticed reduced rain noise in the Tundra too. Not sure why.

  • @kalebaldwin5398
    @kalebaldwin5398 2 года назад +7

    It would be awesome if the straight six Duramax was an option in the ZR2.

    • @raulgallardo1659
      @raulgallardo1659 2 года назад +1

      It will be soon when they release the bison trim

  • @danielmatsunaga1488
    @danielmatsunaga1488 11 месяцев назад

    Alright…. I tried to look for this comment to give it a like but since I couldn’t find it, here it goes.
    -- The thought of driving two great brand new full size pickup trucks in the middle of the rain on a cool beautiful trail, WHILE! Talking shop with your friend over walkies! ---
    Man…. Life goals. Love it.

  • @robertbodizs9773
    @robertbodizs9773 2 года назад

    Gents - thanks for making my Friday 🙏 Awesome video, keep ‘em coming!

  • @mansorer5388
    @mansorer5388 2 года назад +31

    Great content! Im considering both leaning more towards the Tundra

    • @dennissmith7214
      @dennissmith7214 2 года назад +11

      Don’t get stuck because you don’t have any front recovery points or front lockers! 😆😆🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @aidenmcgonigal7377
      @aidenmcgonigal7377 2 года назад +19

      I would go Tundra all day. Owned a couple of Chevy’s in my day and I’ve had problems with every single one. Went to Toyota and haven’t looked back. Toyota builds that truck for the everyday person that goes camping on the weekend. Add a Wescott 3 inch lift and 37’s cause they fit with the new body style, and you’ll go everywhere.

    • @keon8625
      @keon8625 2 года назад +5

      I went with the Tundra. Currently waiting on it. I saw a Pro in person and IMO it looks better than the ZR2 and even the Raptor, especially in orange.

    • @MrRGiller
      @MrRGiller 2 года назад +6

      @@aidenmcgonigal7377 I have never had any issues with my Chevrolet vehicles.

    • @III1IlIIlIllIl
      @III1IlIIlIllIl 2 года назад +3

      @@aidenmcgonigal7377 Toyota will leave you on the side of the road. My 2010 tundra was in the shop for a new engine when I towed a boat.

  • @drusmith4611
    @drusmith4611 2 года назад +25

    Would love to see the F150 Tremor matched up against these two.

    • @mbukukanyau
      @mbukukanyau 2 года назад +3

      Its real competation is the Trail Boss

    • @quintili1
      @quintili1 2 года назад +3

      @@mbukukanyau It has the same size tires as the ZR2. Plus a rear locker and torsion front diff. It's absolutely a direct competitor for the ZR2.

    • @mbukukanyau
      @mbukukanyau 2 года назад +1

      @@quintili1 The Trail-boss also has the G80 rear rocker, runs a size 32 tire, pretty much toes over the ZR 2.
      The only thing Toyota would argue it has over the trail boss is the shocks. But, trail boss has Bilstein monotube 5100 shock absorbers which give it good travel over the regular pick ups, has pretty much as advanced as possible traction control system with a clutch system in its 4WD transfer case to manage power back and front. Anyways, in the end, it comes down to personal preference. For me, the only reason to get a ZR2 is front rocker. That totally makes it superior to all trucks.

    • @sean47w7
      @sean47w7 Год назад

      The Truck King channel made a video comparing the tremor and ZR2

  • @bradleyjordan9418
    @bradleyjordan9418 Год назад

    I recently bought a 2023 ZR2 in the same sand dune metallic color and I love it. Too bad the prices are higher than mentioned in the video.

  • @Doc1855
    @Doc1855 Год назад

    Our personal pickup had gloomy grey and death black interior colors so I had it reupholstered in red with black trim to match the custom 2 tone exterior paint, (silver over red metallic)

  • @zellodavis8453
    @zellodavis8453 2 года назад +9

    Great video, these are really the two trucks that compete with each other a step below Raptor and TRX.

    • @baldomerovega65
      @baldomerovega65 2 года назад +1

      It would be cool to see the tremor with them aswell

    • @ElDaddy007
      @ElDaddy007 2 года назад

      Two steps below the TRX

    • @baldomerovega65
      @baldomerovega65 2 года назад +2

      @@ElDaddy007 also 40k below

    • @JC71444
      @JC71444 2 года назад

      @@baldomerovega65 gottttem

  • @mooh1973
    @mooh1973 Год назад +4

    ZR2 definitely

  • @stephbarbershop2518
    @stephbarbershop2518 Год назад +2

    The elephant in the room is the MPG. It's the reason for the smaller tires.

  • @whalehands4779
    @whalehands4779 Год назад

    The weather made this test even better

  • @Pordar210
    @Pordar210 Год назад +4

    Remember when you can get a lot of truck for 45k? That wasn’t that long ago

  • @kjdawg500
    @kjdawg500 Год назад +3

    Zr2 in every category. Best all around stock offroad truck available.

    • @02hreblue30
      @02hreblue30 Год назад

      raptor kills it dude. Not even close

    • @johnsonjohnson379
      @johnsonjohnson379 Год назад +1

      @@02hreblue30 raptor only kills it on baha style stuff. You put them in actual 4wd terrain and it’s a different story

  • @ConstantineTitan
    @ConstantineTitan Год назад

    Cant wait for the Titan Warrior to enter the chat! Love mine, but would love for these guys to put one up against these other big boys

  • @optical818
    @optical818 Год назад

    The weather made this video even better

  • @bushcraftestonia
    @bushcraftestonia 2 года назад +5

    Guys please read the manual on Toyotas. It’s so painful watching car journalists try to engage 4H when stationary while it clearly says in the manual to engage it while moving, in which case it goes in immediately.

    • @R32vdubb
      @R32vdubb 2 года назад +3

      EXACTLY, they already went through this while testing the Tacomas. 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 and yet they still seem like rookies

    • @martinsiedlecki
      @martinsiedlecki 2 года назад +1

      It should engage immediately at all times

    • @KeepYourSWORDInYourHand
      @KeepYourSWORDInYourHand 2 года назад +1

      They always seem like rookies, like car salesmen that aren't really car guys, its pretty weird actually...

    • @R32vdubb
      @R32vdubb 2 года назад +1

      @@martinsiedlecki if you know Toyota trucks, it doesn’t. Trucks needs to be moving a bit in order to engage.

    • @thelosteddies
      @thelosteddies 2 года назад

      You shouldn't have to do that in any truck in 2022. Toyota is being cheap because they know their fans will accept it. Most other brands haven't had the issue for decades.

  • @ravensfootball52
    @ravensfootball52 2 года назад +15

    The trd is bad ass, definitely my pick. Although the Chevy looks great too. I hope we see more from these two

    • @davec.3198
      @davec.3198 2 года назад +5

      I like the way it looks. But batteries and turbos over 100k? No thanks.

    • @ravensfootball52
      @ravensfootball52 2 года назад +7

      @@davec.3198 idk. This technology isn’t new or anything. I’d trust this hybrid engine before trusting a Chevy v8

    • @davec.3198
      @davec.3198 2 года назад +5

      @@ravensfootball52 Battery tech isn't new, but it ages and replacement is very expensive. So are turbos.
      Both are wear items that have a very finite life over 100k.

    • @ravensfootball52
      @ravensfootball52 2 года назад +1

      @@davec.3198 that’s a good point. Would be nice if they offered a long term warranty to show us they believe in their product

    • @andreymedz6192
      @andreymedz6192 2 года назад +1

      @@ravensfootball52 Toyota warranties their hybrid batteries for 10 years/150k miles.

  • @skipwood3835
    @skipwood3835 Год назад +2

    For 70 g’s I’d buy a stock Chevy 2500 or a Ford 250 or Ram 2500 and put 6” lift, king or Fox shocks with reservoir overflow’s and be able to be either one of those trucks hands down and probably have 10 grand in your pocket still..

  • @TFBlack-ix2cs
    @TFBlack-ix2cs 2 года назад

    I like the off-roading in the storm

  • @theclueguy3388
    @theclueguy3388 2 года назад +3

    Ive found Toyota transfer cases have always been hard to get in and out of 4wd. Electronic or manual. My 92 toyota pickup 22re with manual hubs and transfer case is so hard to get in 4-wheel drive sometimes. I'm sure age has to do something with it too but on the other hand, my 2012 Toyota sequoia with an automatic transfer case is the same way lol. It'll blink and blink and sometimes it just takes some TLC to get it to go into 4wd. My dads ram TRX goes into 4wd instantly lol.

    • @MrChadx1
      @MrChadx1 2 года назад +1

      When going into 4hi, you just need to be moving so things can engage. Sitting still, like Andre did on his 4hi shift, was his issue. My 2013 clicks into and out of 4hi perfectly as have all my Toyotas. 4lo you do when stopped and in neutral, of course, and same thing; right in and out, but many go from 2 wheel drive straight into 4lo. You want to be in 4hi before stopping and shifting into neural and initiation 4lo. I am also in 4hi and 4lo almost every weekend (driving in the mountains) which is good for the actuators. Another tip for 4x4 owners; shift into 4 hi and 4lo at least once a month even if for a short, straight parking lot drive of 50 feet. People that only shift their pickups into 4x4 once or twice a year a way more likely to have issues long term because the actuators not being used can stick.

  • @nelson.nelsoff.nelson.nelsoff
    @nelson.nelsoff.nelson.nelsoff Год назад +14

    Interior sound. I noticed how loud the rain sounded in the zr2 vs trd pro. Maybe it's just an issue of camera placement but if it actually is quieter in the trd, would be cool to mention.

    • @elijahjames9412
      @elijahjames9412 Год назад +4

      Good catch. I have a 2019 Silverado and any time it rains hard it’s very loud inside the cab to the point it’s annoying.

    • @iamjackalope
      @iamjackalope Год назад

      I just commented on that too. It was one of the first things I noticed.

  • @evilfinnigan
    @evilfinnigan 2 года назад

    A good demonstration of “as slow as possible and as fast as necessary”.

  • @fread51
    @fread51 2 года назад +2

    I can't wait until you guys get the Raptor Ranger

  • @dr.emilschaffhausen4683
    @dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Год назад +4

    It's mind boggling to me that Toyota wouldn't offer an off-road package for the TRD to include a front and rear bumper with much better approach and departure angles. That tells me they're not really in touch with the community using their trucks.

    • @Pierce0420
      @Pierce0420 Год назад +1

      If people want to off-road and want a Toyota, they buy a TRD Tacoma, not Tundra. These trucks are for construction foreman lol, not off-roaders.

  • @Cooldaddymon
    @Cooldaddymon Год назад +3

    70k, lol. What's happening to this world? I was in a showroom not long ago and they had a truck, not special edition, just a loaded truck, for like 90k. WTH?

  • @-zerocool-
    @-zerocool- 2 года назад

    Cant wait for Winter, best season.

  • @krisw8597
    @krisw8597 2 года назад +1

    Love you guys but come to Florida to see some real rain… especially during hurricane season 😜😂😱

  • @markhavelka4924
    @markhavelka4924 2 года назад +19

    I’d probably buy a Tremor if I were in the market for something like this, but that ZR2 looks pretty good.

    • @stacystarnes2147
      @stacystarnes2147 Год назад

      For an additional 20k you could.

    • @AntilleanConfederation
      @AntilleanConfederation Год назад

      Too much for me. As I have no need for that much truck for towing. If Toyota offered a bronco like truck like the series 70 landcruiser. I’d buy it. But so far the Tacoma gets the job done. The 4Runner is cool but I prefer the Tacoma for its interior and chain driven motor and 6speed

  • @Fuckyoutubecensorship1
    @Fuckyoutubecensorship1 2 года назад +4

    I know I am a crusty old man but small engines and twin turbos spells higher maintenance and repair, shorter engine life, and not really as much mpg gain under hard use in real world as on paper.

  • @carlitodeleon768
    @carlitodeleon768 Год назад

    I love the leather and the sunroof

  • @wretchedarmwrestler450
    @wretchedarmwrestler450 Год назад

    I like both of these trucks! 💪🏽

  • @reallyemptypockets6509
    @reallyemptypockets6509 2 года назад +10

    It took me 4 hours to watch this video because the sound of rain on the roof kept putting me to sleep 🛌, but that’s alright because it took 4 hours to charge my Lightning from 50% to 100%.

  • @COChevyTrainMan1990
    @COChevyTrainMan1990 2 года назад +13

    Love the ZR2. Clearly outperforms the Toyota by having more and better off-road gear with front and rear lockers, a better four wheel drive system, state-of-the-art suspension, and one of the best reliable engines from GM, along with a way better approach and departure angle. The ZR2’s current tire size is perfect for day to day use. I wouldn’t change that at all, unless TFL proves that. Great video, TFL.

    • @atodaso1668
      @atodaso1668 2 года назад +1

      leaf springs are not state of the art, they are wagon technology

    • @krasnaludek298
      @krasnaludek298 2 года назад +2

      Agree 100% … ZR2 also looks better inside & out IMO.

    • @brianhuffman3202
      @brianhuffman3202 Год назад

      @@atodaso1668 Shocks are SOTA, and the "wagon technology" says that it's WELL PROVEN. Next case......

    • @atodaso1668
      @atodaso1668 Год назад

      @@brianhuffman3202 So it has shocks, cool. That's one step up from an 1800's horse buggy I guess. You realize we do have better technology now right? It has leaf springs for one reason: because GM is cheap. You guys are only just getting 4 wheel disk brakes, and independent suspension in your cars!

  • @ToddCotta
    @ToddCotta 2 года назад +1

    Someday GM will put panoramic sunroof panels in the Silverado. The rain was much more subdued in the TuRD. You could hear the rain on the tin roof in Roman's Z.

    • @02hreblue30
      @02hreblue30 Год назад

      pano seriously decreases rigidity of the body. I would get NO SUNROOF

  • @desertsavagery
    @desertsavagery Год назад

    Looking at my Z71 Suburban and having locker envy, the e-lsd rear gets the job done but damn it I wish it had true locking diffs...and decent off-road tires from the factory.

  • @scottyellis3442
    @scottyellis3442 2 года назад +22

    I'd take the ZR2 anyday over those turbos.

    • @krasnaludek298
      @krasnaludek298 2 года назад +1

      👍🏻 CORRECT

    • @smrtguy77777
      @smrtguy77777 2 года назад

      Chevy reliability is garbage, especially for that 6.2. Their diesel is the only engine worth getting.

    • @18HunnidBK
      @18HunnidBK 2 года назад +3

      Goodluck reselling it 5 years from now from the junkyard. TOYOTA is the KING of all trucks. Thats why They exported and transformed into tanks. Chevy 😂😂 disposable

    • @scottyellis3442
      @scottyellis3442 2 года назад +3

      @@18HunnidBK I'm not a Chevy fan by any means but Toyota messed up by switching to the small engine with turbos, they've already had tons of major issues with them. And yes as far as reliability in the older trucks Toyota was hard to beat but they couldn't haul or tow anywhere close to the 3 American brands. They're good for hauling a loaf of bread home from the store & that's about it.

    • @02hreblue30
      @02hreblue30 Год назад

      @Brian Jake Gaming NO. Toyota copied Ecoboost and Powerboost from Ford

  • @TCOCHRAN1957
    @TCOCHRAN1957 2 года назад +3

    Curious if a VHS tape fit in the Chevy flow-tie?

  • @gatordunn
    @gatordunn 2 года назад +1

    i wish the raptor and tommy was on the trail with you guys

  • @USA__WILL
    @USA__WILL 2 года назад +1

    The Jurassic park rain 🌧️ makes the video better

  • @Stuka87
    @Stuka87 2 года назад +5

    I think Toyota is nuts for charging the same price as a base Raptor for that truck.

    • @krasnaludek298
      @krasnaludek298 2 года назад +1

      Agree & exactly why the Tundra is 5th place in sales for the segment.

  • @kevincraftsbcs4488
    @kevincraftsbcs4488 2 года назад +6

    Will the ZR2 get the diesel that the Trail Boss has as an option? Upper 20's mpg is much better than low teens.

    • @raulgallardo1659
      @raulgallardo1659 2 года назад

      Yes. They’ll be releasing a BISON 🦬 trim soon and that one will come with a diesel

  • @mannyc2604
    @mannyc2604 2 года назад

    This was such a fun video and bad ass video, I love the competitiveness! 😂👍🏼

  • @Jo5ue1
    @Jo5ue1 Год назад +1

    I'm in the market for a full-size truck and just dropping that much money for a brand new one I had to make sure I picked the right one. It's down to two the Toyota Tundra 2023 TRD PRO and the Chevy Silverado ZR2, but man I have seen so many videos of disappointed customers with the reliability of the Silverado truck along with mechanical problems with the other big brand the Ford F150 Tremor. So my money goes to the TRD PRO Tundra.

  • @mikewright2858
    @mikewright2858 2 года назад +3

    I love my Toyotas, but I would love to ve in the room where Toyota folks argue AGAINST welding some recovery points to the truck. It HAS to be inexpensive to do, everyone else has them - but instead they omit them and people have to try and justify their absence.

  • @michaeljensen32
    @michaeljensen32 2 года назад +5

    ZR2 all day long great looking truck 🛻

  • @shane400
    @shane400 Год назад +1

    Watching that made me remember why I keep my old 89 Dakota 4x4 over any 70 thousand dollar new truck! that comes with two hundred dollar plus insurance payments! That couldn't even think about following a thirty-three year old mostly stock truck with fifty dollar a month insurance payments. Lmao. That made my day

  • @rodgood
    @rodgood 2 года назад +2

    Remember when Jeep used to test their new models for the trail rated badge , over the Rubicon Trail? lets test the ZR 2 ,TRD Pro, 150 Tremor, Powerwagon , and see who comes out on top . who wants to see that?

    • @ToyotaNutjob
      @ToyotaNutjob 2 года назад +1

      Wgag. Landcruisers shit on white girl jeeps