Hands On With The New 2024 Chevy Colorado, Silverado, and HD ZR2! Which Off-Road Truck Is Best?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2023
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That zr2 combined with the 3.0 Duramax is a thing of beauty
I think GM did the most with Colorado. It's the perfect size and looks the most aggressive. So much better than the previous gen.
I too think this truck looks sick, especially with factory 35s. You have to do a lot of cutting on a Tacoma to even make 33s fit well without rubbing off road. Oh, and side note, these are definitely 35s, not 34 point whatevers. Tires labeled 35 (usually 35x12.50r…) are also only 34 point whatever inches tall.
Boooo. Previous Gen had a diesel option
The truck looks great, but your personal truck that you bought a couple of months ago, and it’s electrical problems, I’ll pass.
I think Colorado is the meanest looking truck out there in any class..
Gm is just wiping the floor with the competition. The Colorado looks more like the next gen Tacoma than the 24 Tacoma does
Man, Andre is the best, most honest RUclipsr and keeps the TFL company running! Shoutout to Andre! 12:06
Trying to understand how the 1500 became the step child and not get 35s? For 80K god damn grand , put on some 35s for Christ sake
Exactly
We need a 3.0 Duramax in the Colorado!
GM really does have something special with the ZR2 lineup and yeah they should make these trucks even more special due to them being their halo truck lineup.
The Colorado version is atleast pretty special. Dual lockers, longer travel suspension, active suspension, bumpers and unique interior. I think that qualifies its trim level....other trucks idk
@@mathieuk119 I'd definitely consider the Colorado variant to be the center of the two. The Silverado and especially the HD models just look like mild upgrades from their other trims while the Colorado ZR2 is much different than the lower trim models.
It is also the first name plate to have the ZR2 trim as well. All they need to do is slap an engine in it that would separate it from the lower trims to make it truly special.
The 1500 should have got 35’s too
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Price is crazy 🤪 though, Colorado, Silverado, Heavy Duty across the board.
Everything is crazy
The Colorado definitely is the most "ZR2" out of the 3, all they did on the other 2 was put a level kit and shocks basically
I've been seeing quite a few new Colorados on the road lately and they look much better up close. I personally think the GM designers did a great job of balancing over designing ( polarizing) and blandness.
This Chevy Colorado ZR2 BISON definitely beats the ranger Rapter and taco trail-hunter and the Jeep gladiator rubicon on 37s!
Fifty or sixty thousand dollars for a Colorado and a dead battery is free. Don't go camping on the desert in a Colorado for a few days you may not get back.
They already fixed this
He'll no they haven't fixed the dead battery issue . At 10 months on my 2023 Colorado trail boss my damn acdelco battery had dropped to only 7 amps. Had to buy a new battery!
These prices are absurd. I paid $70K for my brand new 2020 Denali 2500 Duramax with the Z71 off road package. I had skid plates as well. No front or rear locker but $90k+, gimme a break.
This truck will outperform a 2500 off-roading. Yours is purpose built and so is this one.
Great review, Andre and TFL crew.
All three trucks are awesome. Hands down absolutely all leaves the compilation miles behind.
Seriously, trade in the Dodge Ram HD and get the ZR2 HD, that deserves the name TRAILHOUND.
Would love that 1500 ZR2, perfect size
On the transmission going into park when opening the door, if yours eat belt is on they usually won't go into park. I get seat belt extenders on all my pickups and it defeats the nanny that places transmission into park when the door is open. It also eliminates the annoying beeps. I like the half ton ZR2 with the diesel for the best all around package.
GM should listen to another request a lot of us have been asking for a while. Put 35's on the 1500 model ZR2. Or at least make it an option.
I love the Colorado Bison ❤. Wish it has more payload though. 1000 lbs is not a lot especially if you’re looking to build it into a camper.
just get those sumo spring bump stops, and honestly, I put a decked pull out drawer system in mine all it did was level it with all my tools, that's on the 1500
Consider it has full armor already. If you took a stock Tacoma and put a winch bumper, rear steel bumper, and full skid plates you'd take 200-300lbs out of the payload.
Fuel economy was never mentioned for the Colorado ZR2 Bison. With the 35’s I expect to see 17-18 mpg from the 2.7L 4-banger turbo. That poor fuel mileage is unacceptable for a midsize truck. The upcoming 2024 Tacoma TRD Pro hybrid should get 25-27 mpg.
@@mini2nut67 You're really comparing dramatically different levels of off-road performance. The Tacoma doesn't have long travel suspension, doesn't have a front locker, doesn't have a winch capable bumper, has smaller and much less aggressive tires.
I agree on the Tacoma TRD Pro vs. Colorado ZR2 Bison capability. By the time you upgrade the TRD Pro performance to the ZR2 Bison level you’re probably gonna have similar mpg. I love Toyota (as I own a 2022 4Runner TRD Pro now) but I just don’t think they’re offering anything comparable to Chevy and Ford (with the Ranger Raptor) level of performance this generation.
Nice truck. Love the HDs. Still prefer the GMC version.
Keep up the great work boys
I'm surprised that with all those skid plated, they still don't put a steel drive Shaft as a standard option
No need, and to heavy.
When I grew up in the 1980s & 1990s, a Mid-sized Truck was always $20,000 less than a Full-Sized Truck. This is Horse S**t that mid-sized are so much. I can lift and pimp a Maverick for $5,000. Who has $60,000 for a damn truck?? Who?? Apparently everyone is rich as hell and I'm broke, and I'm a pharmacist who makes $120,000/year before taxes.
😆 Crazy times brother.
This is the large wage inequality that US Corp execs make 436x the ave company worker when in the 70s it was 6x. US ranks 4th worst in the world for this most important wage metric. And GOP will even fight to the end to stop Min wage increases every year. But they'll have us focussed on cultural issues to fight like wokism or Merry Christmas or bathroom use... we can vote smarter.
Taxes, insurance = a damn big chunk of that 120k goes bye bye quick. Got kids? Fogetabautit! It's all gone.
Corporate Executives have that kinda money that's who. For the last 45 years those execs have voted for their own pay increases while holding down employee pay and benefits at every turn. In 1980 Exec pay was 6x the ave employee, today it is 436 x what their employees make. That takes planning and consistent fights against labor like busting unions and GOP corporate handouts of lower taxes. The actual Pandemic inflation was only 30% of the price increases you see, the rest 70% is corporate price gouging. The saying in the board room is never waste a good crisis. They gouge -then blame the issue of the day. Remember what they say when the minimum wage ever has a chance to be raised, they threaten they must layoff employees. Don't buy their BS nor their products if you can help it. That is why they want monopoly power and this quasi-Capitalism (actually its a Mixed Market economy with subsidies for several industries) always ends up with less competition, not more...
OK. This was not meant to be turn into an argument about Capitalism, Unions, Communism, whatever. Just trucks. In the 1980s & 90s, GM & Ford sold the most piece of shit cars. Why? Because they could get away with it. 2024. You can get away with it. Why? Because idiots buy new cars. The Public is either stupid as shit, or the Public is insane. That is why. Only an insane, idiot, fool, filthy rich dumb-ass, would pay $80,000 for a new truck.@@jr.6199
If you do all of this work, it would be nice if you just made a few charts/graphs comparing them all 3. Start with the charts/graphs, and then go into the exterior/interior. So simple.
They just said this morning that the new Colorados can't go through auto car washes because the pressure is bending the roof
Who said that?
₣Ʉ₵₭ ɎØɄ tfl keeps removing my comments
It might be just RUclips especially if you posted a link or something. I will try to google it.
Yes it’s on Reddit. 2 months old news. Interesting. 😃
This is straight-up awesome!!!
Silverado es Silverado el poder américano haciendo historia... Las Camionetas Silverado son las mejores camioneta del mercado
Exactly Homie the Raptors and Palm Springs are going for 130,000 before interest I got my Silverado ZR two bison for 80,000
Hey Andre so you guys lately have been looking at the cheap trucks then the bison. I would like to see you choose from the middle of the range like LTZ or Trial Boss....
Colorado owners are complaining of buckling roofs.
Fuel mileage was never mentioned for the Colorado ZR2 Bison. With 35’s my guess is 17-18 mpg. That’s about what a normally aspirated small block V8 gets. YIKES!!!
My guess 13mpg
@@gordmonteath6090 Abysmal. This is why the new Tacoma TRD Pro hybrid will be in demand. It should get 25-27 mpg.
MPG is 16 city 16 Hwy
@@R32vdubb That’s dismal for a 4-cylinder motor.
@@mini2nut67IT IS !!! I was thinking about replacing my current Tacoma due to its crappy mpgs but after seeing the reported range for these new trucks (Colorado, Tacoma 4th gen) it makes no sense.
if they could keep the tow capacity and possibly a 3.0 dm on the colorado it'd be a perfect truck
Would be nice to see a rear view mirror camera in the colorado since that tire blocks half your view
All of those trucks are way too expensive, especially with the strike going on is just gonna cause the manufacturs to praise the prices even more, it's stupid.
The ZR2 is the Colorado he should have bought
Remember back in 2006, when someone who made $50,000/year before taxes, was able to buy a $400,000 house? That must be the world today. Houses usually increase in value, 99% of cars depreciate.
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Wish the 1500 ZR2 Could fit actual 35’s. Maybe during refresh they can find the space? Interior is finally worth the price and competitive vs competition
What’s the choke point for 35s on the 1500? I’m not familiar with them. You might be able to get away with a narrower 285 75 18 (35x11) on factory wheels.
I had 285/75r18 (35x11) on my trailboss with no rub even at full flex, so zr2 should have no issue either.
That’s because they raised the prices of all their trucks. I ordered a 2024, 1500 Silverado ZR2 with the 3.0 and it’s $95,000
I wish I had all 3 of those trucks right now!! I could maybe put 20% down on a house here in Colorado.....😢😢
Wow--they really missed with those wheel selections. Geezus.
I like the Colorado and would get one but still loving my 07 Colorado with 120000 miles on it. Doesn't sound like a lot for an 07 but I live on Maui
I like the looks of it. However just like all vehicles especially small trucks like this, I need the MT option. Id even pay a small bit extra.
The Papa bar for me the Mama is just short in some of the numbers I need out of the truck
Technically, the bison is not road legal in New York where I am because the tire is completely in the view of the mirror in the center of the glass 😮 idk if that’s going to be in issue
I got my Silverado zr2 and was bummed when it didn’t have the sport mode my Denali had hopefully gm will add it on an update also the loading screen and the truck on the screen is an lt not a zr2 gm should offer an update so zr2s stand out more
DOES THE ZR2 SILVERADO HAVE LOCKING FRONT AND REAR differential 🤪
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Thank Jesus! Car & Driver has always done a buyer's guide for like 20 years....
What is the cheapest 1500 with a 3.0 that you can get?
I have a 2005 2500 hd beefed suspended used it to pull a 32 ft 5 wheel. Its a duramax diesel with only 145000 miles. I think i will just keep it .the high prices on a trk like mine is about 80000 plus
Maybe fire an AEV exhaust system on it if they have one for it.
commenting as we go. the colorado bison has a stick and not struts for the hood??? my gmc canyon SLE has struts!
It’s crazy how the Ford raptor has completely transformed the truck market. Everybody wants a lift kit and bead locks now. Baja trucks for the street
i wish the Silverado 1500 and the 2500 came with a front locker.
You wouldn’t use them anyway.
@@wint_62I would where I live. I live in Central NY in the snow belt area and wouldn't use it road driving but I would getting in and out of my driveway during the winter and places I go trailering my snowmobiles to trail heads etc.
1500 does come with a front locker
@wint… I feel offended by your projection. Just because you don’t use them it doesn’t mean other more manly man are not using them. For example, just so you see, every time I roll out of a Starbucks ( and I go to Starbucks at least twice a day every day), I use the front AND rear lockers to crawl over the tall edge of the Starbucks’ parking lot. I understand that I could just use momentum but then I would risk splashing the latte I just purchased. With the lockers on I can slowly in very controlled manner crawl over the obstacles of the Starbucks’ or the mall. Front lockers are a must for my active lifestyle.
I’m okay without the front locker, personally. I have an F150 with a rear locker only, and I’ve needed it only a couple times in 3 years of owning and off roading the truck.
1500 zr2 is just outright sexy....atleast in my opinion....
opted with a trail boss colorado, a zr2 bison is almost 90k CAD
I don’t know where are you shopping my ZR two bison Silverado was 80,000
Carjackers will love this new safety feature.
A v6 turbo Colorado would be good competition for the other suped up mid size trucks like the ranger raptor. But it also seems so pointless to make. Then no one would buy a the 4 cyl turbos
Coachella valley is beautiful
Imagine these @ 150k miles with busted motors n trans in the used market and LS swap em n go offloading and have em as a dedicated off road vehicle!
My wallets telling me nooo, but my body! My body is telling me yeeess 🤑
Do they realize how many more of these they would sell if they offered an MT option? Idk, I think they would.
Hi En
You'll probably be begging to get out of the 1500 as soon as you have to do one road side tire change. That is, AFTER you heal the 3rd degree burns.
"Hydraulic bump-stop"..... I thought a bump-stop was a last resort item.... a rubber thingy attached to a frame
$60k mid-size truck 😅
Trailer sais 9999 kilograms not pounds 😂 and the truck is rated at towing 18500 lbs / = only 8391 kilograms 😅 45:07
Next step…. $100,000.00 mid size trucks.
Ok, do any of these GM products have limited slip or locker front axles? This is more important to me than tires and drive modes and electric gadgetry. For that matter, what diesel heavy duty trucks have limited slip front differentials?
The Colorado and Silverado 1500 have both front and rear lockers.
They are the most off road capable trucks in their class
@@johnmorris77 Sorry I should have specified “of the heavy duty diesel pickups” which have limited slip or locker front axles?
@@johnmorris77 ok I said 2500+ trucks. Any GM, Dodge products besides powerwagon with limited slip front axles and diesels, and winches?
You took a lot of time to make a video for this 2500. Hope next can be better… talk so much, but still didn’t mention what I want to know! 😅
Not sure why you mount the spare in that location, why not on driver side bed or on tailgate?
On the tailgate? That spare weighs about 150 pounds. Do you want to catch that whenever you open or close the tailgate? 😅
Cost to dang much. It will be nearly $70k when all is said and done
GM really went to shit the last few years, I basically can't recommend a single product they sell anymore, they're all just piles. Even high end stuff, my friends CT5-V BLACKWING literally blew its motor before it even hit 1000 miles due to manufacturing defects, endless issues with the new Z06 Vette, the crossovers are total junk, Camaro is dead, and the trucks arnt exactly super reliable these days either. I really used to support GM but I have to say, they're one of the last OEMs I would even consider at this point
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Biggest yes colorado never been bigger lol don’t think that’s good thing though . Perfer older mid size truck feels like full size truck with full size prices 😂
tigerjet!
The Bison is $9k on the heavy duty but only $8400 on the Silverado, soooo maybe just maybe only $7500 on the Colorado? Hopefully, fingers crossed.
the edition 1 is 67k
What’s the great about diesel? It’s five bucks a gallon
I like the trucks. Unfortunately I've learned my lessons with buying new and for me, I will never buy another new vehicle. They are literally programmed to fail after a certain time.
👍👍👍2500HD
More like up against the tremor family not raptors.
I have a 2022 1500 ZR2 with the 6.2L. It is at the dealer right now needing a 3rd engine and it only has 24K miles. STAY AWAY!
Best looking trucks out every brand
I feel like you all are working too hard on too many things. You all have 20 different things going on. I wish you would just focus on Trucks/SUVs, how well they perform on-road/off-road, Colorado trails, towing, and VALUE. My favorite videos are things like the 2006 Touareg/MB vids. I will never buy a $70K vehicle and bash it around off-road. I wish you made videos of used Trucks/SUVs with 100K miles on them, and put them to the test. We are poor people, we don't have $70,000 to just spend. Thank you.
Great trucks. You speak to GM - get them to up the power in their engines. 6.2 - 450 Diesel - 500 4- 340 let’s go!
😂 Nobody's ever satisfied. Do you really think it would be that much of a difference?
Do you think that you will be in a situation where you think " if I only had 20-30 more hp" I could get out of here 😂.
I agree about the 6.2 it’s had 420 hp for 10 years. The ford 5.0 makes 400 and is 1.2 liters smaller.
Also only makes 25 hp more than the 5.7 hemi being half a liter bigger. It should be 450-475
GM would have great off road vehicles if it wasn't for the 💩 front suspension! They have the most skin in the game as far as IFS, yet refuse to change the design for their off road vehicles!
Yes, it makes for a great on road tow rig but it does Not have the travel nor strength for a competitive off road desert rig...
Colorado bison is 52k at my dealer, drove one yesterday. On the articulation rack it did ok, not great, my Tremor did better. I only have added 35in nittos and DV8 bumpers.
No reason they couldn't do integrated tips like sierra. The 3.0L is $3000, the y.2 is 3800
if obly it was reliable
Great for RUclips videos.
If no one can afford it. Then it becomes a waste. 😂
Thanks for showcasing the smallest percentage of trucks the largest percentage of the population cannot afford!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼. Keep up the great fantasy videos. 😂😂
Wheel size on silverado smaller than the Colorado. Very big fail from GM /Chevy part. You can't even squeeze a 35 on the silverado without major rub. The second issue is if you do lift the truck, you lose the 4 high capabilities. Another failure. The third issue is they still have the worst fuel mileage. A ZR1 corvette gets better fuel mileage than this truck. Very sad day for the silverado.
Chevy is taking over the truck world! Shout out to my palm Springs homies
The shifter in the middle is the dumbest thing GM has done yet.
$200 grand
All charge 2,000$ every 2 years for navigation 😂😂😂
Wait what? You have to pay for NAV now? When did this change? Tnx
@@fit4ya1975 this year I believe its subscrition based now nobody wants to talk about it
This trucks are overpriced! The monthly payments on this truck $1235-$1899 depends on your credit. Interest rate are too high.
I just dont understand why you would spend that kind of money and buy the Colorado? Makes zero sense
Silverado front end is ugly
No it's not
I think the new Colorado is a Tacoma wannabe!
yawn, GM trucks, solid 3rd place amongst the big three.
Buy Toyota . It will last for long Times.
The ZR2 bison IS the top of the mid size.
Has there been any mention that a 37" could fit under the Colorado Bison? 🦬