So, you can lay 3/4” steel pipes down before you place any sand at all; then dump the sand on the pipes, raise the top of the pipe to the desired level and supported by the sand piles, once the pipes are levelled start dumping sand and you’re good to start screeding immediately. With the pipes method, you don’t have acquire a level base with a trowel first (which could suck on a large project), and then put your flat bar screed rails onto your hopefully flat hand prepped surface. You do however have to hand screed the void that is left once the pipes are moved.
Thanks for discussing the water drainage, the vast majority of the videos on RUclips don’t, which is really concerning when working around a individuals home. Regards from Canada.
That's around exactly same size of mine that I want to laying a paving slabs, may I ask how many Ton sands did u use and is that a building sand?? Thank you
Hi Miran. You'll want to lay 20-30mm of bedding sand (this can be builders sand or river sand). 1 tonne will cover approximately 15m2. You can use the formula below to work out what you need. Area to be paved ____ (m2) x 0.05 (allows for 30mm thick bedding sand) = ____ tonne of bedding sand required
Hi Jason, wow you came back, Awesome. I have worked out mine its around 15m2 so now I know one tonne would be enough which I wasn't sure until u came back to me with full helpful information, thank you, very much appreciate mr, you're amazing 😉👍
I thought you were not supposed to step on your sand. If have started laying my stones and I want to restart, do I need to replace my sand or can I just screed the same again? And does it matter if my pipe is 1" 1/4 instead of 1" or I should get the exact 1" pipe?
Hi there, in the video Jason kneels on the sand that has not been screeded - best to not stand on sand that has been screeded to ensure it stays levelled. There is no need to replace the sand, go ahead with releveling (screeding sand). It does not matter the size of pipe, keep in mind the bigger you go, the bigger the area is to infill once you remove them.
@@AdbriMasonryAus Thanks a lot. I have an other question: I am not able to finish my project before another 3-4 days. I have 1/4 of my stones laid. I am guessing it is crucial to tarp the section if it rains?
Some say you need to compact the sand before laying the slabs and some say you don’t need to.. I’m doing my garden and I’m not compacting the sand 🤷🏽♂️
I’m beginning to think I should have as it’s been 2 months and 4 slabs have sank around 2cm but the rest are solid!! I’m just going to lift the 4 up and lay more sand and level it 👍🏽
@@tritonlandscaping1505 i would like to see how you compact slabs that are 1 meter by 2 meter and 10cm thick. You definitely need to compact the sand before. And if you use thin pavers like in this video, a compactor will destroy the pavers
Hi Dan, Depending on where you source the sand from, will determine the exact name of the sand. However, most commonly we use Washed River Sand or Coarse River Sand.
It depends on the job, and the experience of the builder. For large format pavers (think 600mm x 600mm and above) you do need some form of adhesive like mortar. For smaller format pavers though, using mortar removes the benefits of using pavers, that they can adjust slightly with movement of the earth rather than cracking, and that they can be easily lifted and relaid if you need to access the ground beneath. For a builder experienced with the use of concrete, laying pavers on a bed of mortar would just seem like the quicker, easier and more stable option.
Shouldn`t sand be compacted ? Sand also looks like soft building sand but sharp sand is recommended as it locks together better and allows water drainage .
Hi Rob, this is one part of a full paving DIY where the road base (laid beneath the sand) is compacted, which is why this sand layer is only 25mm per our engineers recommendations. If you're planning a home project it might help to see the full paving video, which includes the compacting step; ruclips.net/video/W91lV3w9w_0/видео.html
@@AdbriMasonryAusthanks for your reply! I know that seemed like a stupid question. So do you screed all the way along, then remove the rails and fill in where the rails had been with sand as you put the pavers down?
@@kevincullen2424 There are no stupid questions, especially if you've never laid pavers before. Yes, you screed all along to get your sand level, remove the rails and add sand as necessary to keep an even base for your paving.
@@cbjueueiwyru7472 i was always taught to compact sand, then screed then at the end they get knocked down a couple of mill. one step further we mixed cement into the sand and threw another fine layer of cement over to adhere pavers
There's no need to use a compactor for the sand as it would just keep moving the sand around. The edges of the paved area are haunched with concrete so the sand can't go anywhere. The pavers evenly distribute the weight over the bedding sand. Let me know if you have any other questions.
@@Behappy-h6j You compact the road base under the sand. You compact the pavers/slabs/whatever after they are set on top of the sand. You do NOT compact the sand.
Hi Taddeh, this is one part of a full paving DIY where the road base (laid beneath the sand) is compacted, which is why this sand layer is only 25mm. If you're planning a home project it might help to see the full paving video, which includes the compacting step. ruclips.net/video/W91lV3w9w_0/видео.html
@@AdbriMasonryAus Mate thanks for the reply. I have already compacted the road base. I just layered on the sand today. It's about 40mm thick give or take. Haven't screeted yet. When i step in the sand it compresses quite a lot. I was asking because some videos people compact the sand as well, however when I saw that you didn't I began to think I might not need hire a compacter again.
Instead of sand, can't you just lay these on mortar? That way they wouldn't move, no risk of ants, and no need to spread a huge amount of sand. Just apply the mortar one at time and make sure everything is level.... that seems to be simpler, no?
There is a method whereby you can lay pavers on concrete, but you would need to first lay an actual concrete slab with reinforcement, otherwise you would risk cracking the unreinforced slab. One of the benefits of laying pavers on compacted road base and sand is that it remains lightly pliable. As the ground gradually changes over time (we're talking years), pavers can move slightly without breaking. They can even be lifted so the base can be adjusted, and then re-laid. A concrete slab path or patio, unless reinforced (and still even then) will eventually crack. Repairs are then more difficult and costly.
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Excellent video,this guy knows what he’s doing.
Brilliant video, lots of others don't go into enough detail, as for me this is the hardest part, especially when linking up to other slabs
This video was a great help for me when i laid my screed bed for the bottom of my garden 2 years ago and it still looks good and level. Thanks.
Level, with a 1:100 slope of course 😁😁
So, you can lay 3/4” steel pipes down before you place any sand at all; then dump the sand on the pipes, raise the top of the pipe to the desired level and supported by the sand piles, once the pipes are levelled start dumping sand and you’re good to start screeding immediately.
With the pipes method, you don’t have acquire a level base with a trowel first (which could suck on a large project), and then put your flat bar screed rails onto your hopefully flat hand prepped surface.
You do however have to hand screed the void that is left once the pipes are moved.
Thank you! Your video helped me years later
Thanks for discussing the water drainage, the vast majority of the videos on RUclips don’t, which is really concerning when working around a individuals home.
Regards from Canada.
Nice job but music is annoying loud when he is speaking !
Thank you for sharing this - it helped me no end this morning !!
Just what I needed - Thankyou!
best base I've seen on all these videos. I wish someone would talk about quantity of sand so I get my delivery right and not too much.
Ideally for garden paths and patios, you’ll want to lay 75mm of road base and 20mm of river sand.
@@AdbriMasonryAus the river send must be soock ?
0.5" - 1" of sand. Calculate volume needed in cubic ft then convert to cubic yard plus 20% (just in case, sand is cheap).
Nice tutorial. Is this regular paving sand (builders sand)?
Very helpful video, I used it to help pave my backyard
All done? Ok
What a great video for a beginner like me, thank you!
Great video, and great tips, thank you.
That's around exactly same size of mine that I want to laying a paving slabs, may I ask how many Ton sands did u use and is that a building sand?? Thank you
Hi Miran. You'll want to lay 20-30mm of bedding sand (this can be builders sand or river sand). 1 tonne will cover approximately 15m2.
You can use the formula below to work out what you need.
Area to be paved ____ (m2) x 0.05 (allows for 30mm thick bedding sand) = ____ tonne of bedding sand required
Hi Jason, wow you came back, Awesome. I have worked out mine its around 15m2 so now I know one tonne would be enough which I wasn't sure until u came back to me with full helpful information, thank you, very much appreciate mr, you're amazing 😉👍
@@miransalih1079 Always happy to help. Best of luck with your project.
Thank you my friend, do you leave metals line in the place or you remove it
Hi Boris, you can remove the metal screed rails once you have the bedding sand level.
Thanks for the good content, helps out a lot
Did you compact the sand? Tia.
Hi Alex, no need to compact the sand beyond what occurs when screeding it flat.
Is there anything bluey's dad can't do
Really u r a genius👍
Which sand did you use?
I thought you were not supposed to step on your sand. If have started laying my stones and I want to restart, do I need to replace my sand or can I just screed the same again? And does it matter if my pipe is 1" 1/4 instead of 1" or I should get the exact 1" pipe?
Hi there, in the video Jason kneels on the sand that has not been screeded - best to not stand on sand that has been screeded to ensure it stays levelled. There is no need to replace the sand, go ahead with releveling (screeding sand). It does not matter the size of pipe, keep in mind the bigger you go, the bigger the area is to infill once you remove them.
@@AdbriMasonryAus Thanks a lot. I have an other question: I am not able to finish my project before another 3-4 days. I have 1/4 of my stones laid. I am guessing it is crucial to tarp the section if it rains?
@@gtig37 We recommend to do a paving job within 1-2 days. Definitely install a protection over the job.
Did you cut the level over the bulb, or did it come tat way?
Hi Charles, the level came that way.
Excellent video. You should be a teacher
Can we use quarter down instead of sand
This was very helpful! Got me out of a jam.
Thanks I think I got it hahaha I'll give it a go
Do it work on a dry bed?
What is the name of the wooden float? I have no volume....
It’s called a wooden float.
What are the flat bars called you put the green screed bar on?
Hi Ste, there's no professional name for them. You can just use any flat metal bars you have available.
This fucking saved me! I love you my aussie friend!
so you dont wacka pate that so its gonna sink.
Some say you need to compact the sand before laying the slabs and some say you don’t need to.. I’m doing my garden and I’m not compacting the sand 🤷🏽♂️
I’m beginning to think I should have as it’s been 2 months and 4 slabs have sank around 2cm but the rest are solid!! I’m just going to lift the 4 up and lay more sand and level it 👍🏽
@Vajid Ali You don't compact sand. You compact the slabs/pavers after they are laid on the sand base.
@@JoshuaHamshaw93 You do NOT compact sand. You compact the slabs/pavers after they are already laid on the sand.
@@tritonlandscaping1505 i would like to see how you compact slabs that are 1 meter by 2 meter and 10cm thick. You definitely need to compact the sand before. And if you use thin pavers like in this video, a compactor will destroy the pavers
@@brainspiller666 Um a plate compactor? Lmao.
What type of sand is that? What is the name of that specific sand?
Hi Dan,
Depending on where you source the sand from, will determine the exact name of the sand. However, most commonly we use Washed River Sand or Coarse River Sand.
Great job but why do some builders insist on a mortar bed?
It depends on the job, and the experience of the builder. For large format pavers (think 600mm x 600mm and above) you do need some form of adhesive like mortar. For smaller format pavers though, using mortar removes the benefits of using pavers, that they can adjust slightly with movement of the earth rather than cracking, and that they can be easily lifted and relaid if you need to access the ground beneath. For a builder experienced with the use of concrete, laying pavers on a bed of mortar would just seem like the quicker, easier and more stable option.
@@AdbriMasonryAus Thank you. I'm doing a 2.4 small square patio, mixed sizes.
Where did you get thar long float from?
You can get these from most Bunnings stores;
www.bunnings.com.au/masterfinish-1200mm-screed_p5960135
Shouldn`t sand be compacted ? Sand also looks like soft building sand but sharp sand is recommended as it locks together better and allows water drainage .
Hi Rob, this is one part of a full paving DIY where the road base (laid beneath the sand) is compacted, which is why this sand layer is only 25mm per our engineers recommendations. If you're planning a home project it might help to see the full paving video, which includes the compacting step;
ruclips.net/video/W91lV3w9w_0/видео.html
You compact the road base under the sand. You compact the pavers/slabs/whatever after they are set on top of the sand. You do NOT compact the sand.
Do you leave the rails in?
Hi Kevin, it's best to remove the rails once you have your bedding sand level.
@@AdbriMasonryAusthanks for your reply! I know that seemed like a stupid question. So do you screed all the way along, then remove the rails and fill in where the rails had been with sand as you put the pavers down?
@@kevincullen2424 There are no stupid questions, especially if you've never laid pavers before. Yes, you screed all along to get your sand level, remove the rails and add sand as necessary to keep an even base for your paving.
@@AdbriMasonryAus thanks mate. Appreciate the help
you didn't compact the sound?
You are correct. We recommend compacting the road base, but not the sand.
But won't the paver sink below concrete when sand settles
@@cbjueueiwyru7472 i was always taught to compact sand, then screed then at the end they get knocked down a couple of mill. one step further we mixed cement into the sand and threw another fine layer of cement over to adhere pavers
Ufff mis amores, los subtítulos en español son DIBINOS!!!
No compactor for sand? Won't it just sink?...confused
There's no need to use a compactor for the sand as it would just keep moving the sand around. The edges of the paved area are haunched with concrete so the sand can't go anywhere. The pavers evenly distribute the weight over the bedding sand. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Do you recommend not compacting any paving jobs?
@@Behappy-h6j You compact the road base under the sand. You compact the pavers/slabs/whatever after they are set on top of the sand. You do NOT compact the sand.
Nice nice..
Love the videos ,it's hard to hear with the music running behind his talking.
That's great to hear Cindy! Thank you for the feedback on the music.
No compacting?
Hi Taddeh, this is one part of a full paving DIY where the road base (laid beneath the sand) is compacted, which is why this sand layer is only 25mm. If you're planning a home project it might help to see the full paving video, which includes the compacting step.
ruclips.net/video/W91lV3w9w_0/видео.html
@@AdbriMasonryAus Mate thanks for the reply. I have already compacted the road base. I just layered on the sand today. It's about 40mm thick give or take. Haven't screeted yet. When i step in the sand it compresses quite a lot. I was asking because some videos people compact the sand as well, however when I saw that you didn't I began to think I might not need hire a compacter again.
@@archangulToo thick, no more than 20mm
Amazing
Good video. It would be even better without the annoying background music. You don’t need it.
This applies to every youtube video
Instead of sand, can't you just lay these on mortar? That way they wouldn't move, no risk of ants, and no need to spread a huge amount of sand. Just apply the mortar one at time and make sure everything is level.... that seems to be simpler, no?
There is a method whereby you can lay pavers on concrete, but you would need to first lay an actual concrete slab with reinforcement, otherwise you would risk cracking the unreinforced slab. One of the benefits of laying pavers on compacted road base and sand is that it remains lightly pliable. As the ground gradually changes over time (we're talking years), pavers can move slightly without breaking. They can even be lifted so the base can be adjusted, and then re-laid. A concrete slab path or patio, unless reinforced (and still even then) will eventually crack. Repairs are then more difficult and costly.
@@AdbriMasonryAus I'm just going off of what this expert at Bunnings is doing here: ruclips.net/video/r00MvcnDR9w/видео.html
Gday mate
Music too loud finding another video
Please please please get rid of the music in your videos.
We don’t what you r saying bro, just that obnoxious music
Cheers brother !
Do you not compact the sand at all?
No compacting?