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I'm looking for some knowledge on replacing the swivel bracket on a 75 hp Yamaha 4 stroke. The swivel was damaged by a rock at high speed and busted the mount on the swivel bracket. Any advise
WOW!!! That video was SUPER concise and INCREDIBLY informative!! Thank you for all the helpful tips. I feel as though I've just learned years of wisdom in a single five minutes.
Wow, what a good video. You don't only have the knowledge and skills, but you can teach as well. And make a step by step video. Thank you, thank you from Europe
Kinda late for this excellent video. However, as it's really a timeless video, had to see how the lower 2 rams operated and were repaired. BTW, we just got through repairing the Tilt Unit Motor of a 130hp Honda [gunk inside holding the brushes from contacting the rotor] and needed the extra knowledge to work on those rams. What better time to work on the rams than when we have the whole unit on the table. Great stuff guys. . . it really helped! A heartfelt THANK YOU!
I've got a 2000 Merc 250 EFI on a same year 23' Mako. Been working on it with my son. Great father son time. Since we're on a budget, trying to get the most of what we have. I have a question on replacing the manual pressure relief or manual tilt relief or manual tilt valve, whatever its called. I had to drill mine out to tilt the motor. To replace it, do I have to remove the trim and tilt motor, or can it be replaced with TnT motor in place? It looks like there is just a c clip (or banjo clip) holding it in place, as the head has complete disintegrated.
New sub here! I'll be attempting to restart a Suzuki 225 V6 2 Stroke has not ran in 15 yrs 😬. Your vids and knowledge will help me out a lot to get her back in the water. Thanks 🤝
Great video. I made a tool for removing the caps by using a small piece of scrap steel plate and drilling four holes in the correct place. Then simply put bolts through that fit snugly in the holes in the cap. A central hole with a larger bolt facing the other way and double nuts on it, allowed me to get a spanner on to turn it. Worked great.
hey i would like ur advice from 1:05 in your video I'm trying to get my manual trim release screw out but its stuck in their and the head of the screw is broken off i tried heating up a smaller flat and gluing it inside but that stripped as well seems very stuck i understand your part of drilling it out to release the pressure but how do you or some different ideas of trying to get that screw out so i can put a new one in . ANY HELP WILL BE APPRECIATED Thanks
Very good video! I have a question, at 3:12 you leave the engine on the kickstand and use the hydraulics down to suck the rams back into the cylinders. How can I be sure those little kickstands will be able to not break under all that pressure? Do you have to have the rams all the way into the cylinders to perform this? Thank you in advance for a reply!
Born again!! Need help! Did all 6 trim tilt assemblies. One seal failed entire unit fill with water. What is best way to completely bleed system so no water is left! My tuna trip got delayed again!
I guess I may need an air hammer cause the holes on my tilt end caps have been damaged. Drilling new holes was suggested but thinking the air hammer may be a better solution.
I have a 1990 Yamaha 40 up 2 stroke. The tilt/trim goes up just fine but leaks down immediately I don’t see fluid leaking around shafts but I don’t know where on this old thing to check and see if it has any fluid in ? It’s a single cylinder tilt trim unit any info would be helpful. Update the emergency screw on the side was stripped out and turned full opened unfortunately it was to far gone to replace so got a used tilt/trim and it works great now
Thank you for the great work you are doing! I've been watching all of your videos in the last few years. I have a Yamaha F40 4t for 10 years now. Lately the engine is coming down slowly over night/after few hours. I see no oil leakage, I checked the power trim oil level and everything seems normal. The screw to manually trim the motor is ok as well. I read somewhere that "If no leaks are found, it also could have been a cylinder bypassing internally"... Since I live in a small Greek island where no mechanical issues can be dealt with, can you tell me if you have a video about this specific problem? Thanks again!
Great video however I have a F70 Yamaha 2012 and the gland nut is a Hex cap not with the two holes. I purchased a 1 13/16" crows foot wrench that fits but cannot get the cap loose even with a 4 foot breaker bar. Any ideas, help?
Hey mate, iv got the issue with the screw broken at the relief valve. What exactly did you do? And what did you replace the screw with? I'm kinda scared to drill it out?
About to take on this project on the main cylinder this weekend. Thanks for advice. You guys are doing it right. Wish u had a main cylinder video though
Is there a point where if my trim won't go above 1/4 that a whole unit needs to be replaced? It's in the shop for diagnosis but im going is just bad seals and leaked too much fluid
If the tilt and trim works, and holds the motor up on land. But the motor drops down during acceleration in the water, and raises up in reverse. What would you say the issue is?
@@BornAgainBoating The pressure valve that were drilling?...in case is striped out !!!...while ago I did send you a comment in you gas sender unit. Happens that my sender unit was not working from half to empty driving me crazy just want to point that out . If you can post a video on how to fix the sender unit thread holes on a poly tank sender it will be very helpful, I clock mine drilling new holes since the thread was damage..some people tap them but I decide to just rotate the sender ,mark new holes and use self tap screws with #2 gasket sealer proved to be all gas resistant..so far working perfect...!!! thank you for all you videos !!!!
I have a question about when you are sucking the tilt rams all the way back in. Do you have the manual release released or do you have it on trim? If it is on manual release and you actuate the trim button will it suck the rams in?
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Very helpful! I'm about to swap motors and do this on an 85 hp Force w/PT &T. Apparently the PT &T, according to the seller, leaked lightly. This comes in handy
Great vid, Quick question. On a 125 outboard force motor. Do you happen to know why my trim motor is making a loud noise once it's red positive line is simply touching my battery . Even before I have touched the trim toggle switch . It's making the same noice as if im touching the switch even when I am not touching the switch ? I'd greatly appreciate any feedback you can provide! Thank you so much for your help 😊
Sounds like one of the trim switches is leaking voltage, possibly the pan switch, unplug the switches one at a time and see if the motor turns off, it should be one of the switches. If not, unplug the the relays and it should stop, then work you way back to the switches from the relays, unplugging the trim wires until you figure out what's leaking voltage
Did all this . News seals on the tilt and and new pump motor along with new pump seals . New manual release valve . Everything is working great besides a slow leak down :( any suggestions?????? I’ve been bleeding the crap out of it . It’s supposed to be a self bleeding system
The only thing I can think of is that the check valves are worn out inside of the unit or one of the balls in the valve is just not closing. Sometimes you can take compressed air and using a nozzle with a rubber tip on it. Shoot air into the unit through the fill port and see if that will dislodge the valve that's allowing it to leak down. That's an internal issue and I don't think it is possible to get to those components. Well, I've never tried to take a unit all the way apart that far and see if you can replace the valve or clean it out. It might be possible, but you would have to take the unit all the way out and completely disassemble it. If you had a leaky seal and water got in the unit and rusted up the check valves that control that portion of the unit, then you would have to replace the ball or whatever it is that is in that check valve to stop it from leaking down. Sorry, that's the only thing I can think of. Let us know what you end up figuring out or doing. That can be frustrating when you trim the engine up and then it slowly leaks down while you are running or if you leave the boat in the water.
2000 Johnson 200 won’t trim up or down. No clicking noise when throttle switch is pressed or from switch on motor. Now motor stuck in down position. Any ideas ?
I need to find out I've got a Force 125 horsepower and it's a 1990 model and I cannot get that rod out that hose for tilton trim cylinders in that goes across from one side to the other how can I get them out they've been tucking out because I got to put the cylinder back in I bought the boat just like that and I rebuilt the cylinder so how can I put the rock get the rod out to put the cylinder back in so I can put it back together please comment me and let me know have a very blessed day and be safe 🙏
This would be a good time to change to o-ring and teflon backup as well, you have it apart and installing fresh fluid. Just saying, it's your video and again good job doing this.
Watched several of your how to videos. I really enjoy them. Learned quite a bit from them. Any how. I have a 2012 Yamaha 90hp and I'm experiencing tilt issues that you may or may not have covered. When I depress the tilt button on the motor there is a clicking noise coming from the relay. Both up and down. I'm getting the same sound when I use the remote switch. I'm not sure if the tilt relay is bad or the pump motor. I ran a jumper wire from the battery to the blue wire and nothing happened. No click or whirl from the motor. Have you any suggestions as to what I should do next?
Thank you! You need to put power and ground to the green and blue at the same time, otherwise it won't work :/ check out todays video! ruclips.net/video/l80OS6CuSdI/видео.html
I have a pair of low hour 2008 df250's. I live in a remote part of scotland. I used your videos to help me maintain them. I had to replace the lower hinge pin and seals on one of the lower ptt rams. Now when I tilt that motor down from the fully up position, just before it transitions from the tilt ram to the trim rams, it bounces a few times. I have fully cycled the ptt unit dozens of times and topped up with ATF. Any clue as to what is wrong?
Great video, I have a problem with my outboard, when you put it into reverse trying to back it off the trailer the motor climbs out of the water. Do you have any suggestions, Thanks
Why do I see so many people having issues when powering the boat on or off a trailer! First of all a lot of boat ramps do not allow you to power on or off of your trailer, Secondly even if it was allowed it is a very disrespectful thing to do! The biggest problem is when idiots use the engines to power onto the trailer, It causes a big washout and then a sandbar behind it! Get your lazy butt off of the boat and crank it onto the trailer! And if you are too lazy to hand crank it just get an electric winch! There is absolutely no reason to wash out the boat ramp!
@@NeverEnoughPyro40 If you had read the post you would see I was trying to get it OFF the trailer, we had the truck into the water passed the muffler, the boat was not moving, also I am not a LASY BUTT and not a IDIOT. Thank you for your post it was very helpful.
I really enjoy your how-to videos. Have a question concerning an issue with the trim tilt on a 2012 90hp Yamaha motor. I'm getting a clicking sound from the relay but no motor sound. I ran a wire directly to the battery and no motor. Is it safe to say that the motor is frozen or still possibly the relay bad?
You can try wiring 2 or 3 12v batteries in series to create 24/36 volts and directly connect it to the motor, the temporary voltage shock can unfreeze the motor
my engine wont push down the trim rods, any idea why this is happening? it goes down with the manual valve and back up from bottom with the motor,. but it wont go down even if I stand on it
Yes, the reservoir is for the whole unit. So any leak at any point in the unit will create an issue over time. If left for too long the unit will eventually fill up with water and start to fail internally and rust from the inside out!
Thanks a ton for your videos. I found a cap wrench option at Marine Tech tools. My caps were stuck and I ended up breaking a couple of pins, but finally got them off. Replacement pins were cheap.
Hello, great video, was wondering I have a 70hp, well boat, can't seem to work the tilt/trim, won't go up because of the "well" do you think it would go up if I took the bottom unit off, cause I need to have the motor go 100% up.?
That's an interesting question. I don't have a lot of experience with well boats but I guess it all depends on how the boat is set up and how things are moving there. What do you mean take the bottom unit off? the well of the boat?
@@BornAgainBoating I'm speaking of the lower unit or can I raise the motor off of the boat and work on my tilt and with it hanging in the air.off do I need pressure from the motor to bleed it the tilt if the motor is suspended in the air..
If the pipes are known to rust up, why not get the coated/plated? I was taught if replacing one side of a system (the seal in this case) go ahead and replace the other side as it's failure is likely.... No anti-seize on threads?
I was thinking they used to come painted to be honest, I agree with you completely! You're right on changing out both of them too, but sometimes one side isn't as bad as another. Like if one of the rams gets a knick in it, then that is what is causing the failure. Not necessarily the age :) Good looking out! Not sure why I didn't put any grease on the threads. Usually, I do!
I see ppl usually do only the trim rams but never the tilt ram. Does it not need seals replaces.? Im thinking about doing mine but no one has vids on the tilt ram.
The trim rams are just more commonly needed than the tilt tube seals. They do go bad though, and need replaced. I have the recordings to do a tilt ram but haven't gotten the time to make the video yet. It is pretty much the same as doing these trim rams with the exception of taking off the pin that attaches it to the engine. As well as having to pull the whole ram out and take the bottom or top, depending on what style you have, of the tilt tube to remove the cap. Then the seals are pretty much the same. A lot of them also have an o-ring in the middle.
@@BornAgainBoating ive always wondered how the seal on the tilt cap comes off. Unlike the trim trim rams which has nothing on the ends, the tilt ram has the mount that attaches to the motor at the top, if u slide up its stuck and if u slide it down it hits the base of the piston rod.
@@drakeastro8131 Yeah, you have to take the entire rod out and then stick it in a vice so you can screw the top off of it and then slide the cap off. The rest is the same, take out the pin in the top and then lift the engine up once you get the cap loose. Pull it out and unscrew the top off. You sound like you know what you are doing, you shouldn't have too much trouble!
@@BornAgainBoating ah, thats hiw its done. Honda Service manuals are hopeless. I miss working on my old merc and their manuals are alot clearer. Thanks, 👍
Be very careful with the piston, it has multiple springs and check balls inside. When the nut come of they go everywhere and unless you have service manual you have to guess which goes where and they are not identical, Ask how I know.
Yes, in some cases, the starter needs to be engaged for the trim to operate on certain boats. This is for safety reasons and ensures there's enough power available to operate the trim system.
I am not an outboard person and bought a 84 Astroglass fish and ski with a 90HP 84 model Yamaha on it. The trim will not go all the way down and the motor is not in a total parallel position. all the way down. What can be the problem? I need it all the way down to run the boat
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Man this video was so helpful! Thank You! Mine is leaking between the transom and t/t. So I guess I'm going to have to pull the whole t/t off to get to the screw. Enjoyed the video.
Awesome, thank you! Ouch that doesn't sound good. Yeah, you'll have to pull the unit out and check it out. If it's leaking from the back like that, the unit might be cracked in the back :(
@@BornAgainBoating great video although that tool is really expensive, I wish you showed how to drill out the manual release if is seized, wont the fragments go inside? Since its aluminum wont heating it make it worse since aluminum expands the most of any metals? Can you use a screw extractor for it? do you have a video for that
my merc 60 hp will randomly raise up and wont go down. The trim engine also seemed to be stuck and would not turn off till I disconnected at the relay switch. To fix immediate problem, I switched the blue and green wires to the relays to allow the motor go down so I could get back to the dock. Later, , I replaced the two relays-but the problem persists! Can you help me figure out what I am missing?
Yes, it will do a few other engines, but I don't think it will on the seastar steering cylinders. The seastar wrench works pretty well, you can hook a 3/8" ratchet to it for some leverage. Plus the caps come with the kit, so you can air hammer them off and not worry about destrying the caps :) There are a lot of different engines though, so they make a few different styles :)
I'm not 100% on the exact procedure for that exact model. Most of the little engine's under 40 the trim units only consist of a couple of pins and then slide right out. You should be able to pull it out, there is definitely a way to remove it, I'm sorry that I don't have the exact procedure for that exact model of engine, but you should be fine and when you look at it hopefully it is just a pin at the top and a pin at the bottom!
Yes, make sure you have the cowling off to get you some more room. Then with the top pin out of the top of the middle tilt ram, pick up on the lower unit to tilt the engine forward into the boat. Hopefully there is enough room there with the engine pushed up to pull the middle ram down and then out of the unit. Be carefull not to pull the ram cylinder too far forward and mess up that pipe. Usually there is enough room in the transom well to have enough room to pull the cylinder out. I'll hopefully be making a video on this in a few months. Sorry I don't have it up yet :) Good luck!
Another super and very helpful video thank you so much! Could you do one on replacing the seals and zinc anode on a alpha one from a cruiser tilt arm? And include other important information to for maintaining looking for on these that might be a problem or trouble how to avoid the problems. Thank you very much I'm worried about mine.
would this process work for a mercury outboard that goes down but doesn't go up? would this just be low fluid? The motor is running but it just wont go up.
@@BornAgainBoating so we got it to start to move but then it stops... Just keep toping it off? until it goes all the way? It has no leak from what we can see and it was working perfectly fine for the last 4 years....
Either one of two things: The manual relief valve on the side of the unit is leaking or not operating properly and allowing it to leak down. Or the check valves inside the unit itself are not shutting all the way and allowing it to leak down. See if there are any leaks and the fluid has got water in it, maybe just flushing it out and putting new fluid in there will get it to start holding the engine up again :)
How to unstick a lower unit skeg on a older Yamaha 150 2 cycle motor. I can only pry it one half inch and it stays stuck. I assume my drive shaft spindles are rusted and stuck. I saw a video of a guy using wood shims but my narrow side of the skeg barely opens up to stick even a screw driver in . Since it is aluminum I gotta be careful when prying. Any Ideas? I saw a guy flip over his motor and put Gunk degreaser down the spline and let it sit for two days to get it to release.
If you can’t get the screw loose , use a chisel with the correct size wrench or vise grips , if that doesn’t work use an impact driver or have somebody tap on the chisel while turning
I have a question, are Yamaha is fairly new and the trim works but started making a wired noise, just today while trimming it down once it hit the 2 trim rams it stoped, and one trim ram went down while the other stayed fully out, so it’s froze upright, what do I do?
Try to open the Manual release and see if it will release the pressure and let the ram go down, then see if it is low on fluid, but only check when the engine is all the way up!
@@BornAgainBoating great video although that tool is really expensive, I wish you showed how to drill out the manual release if is seized, wont the fragments go inside? Since its aluminum wont heating it make it worse since aluminum expands the most of any metals? Can you use a screw extractor for it? do you have a video for that
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Hi guys , I would like to know where can I buy the wrench that is circular ( your favorite) and where can o get Yamaha OM parts affordable prices , thanks Im very happy to have subscribed for your videos.
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I'm looking for some knowledge on replacing the swivel bracket on a 75 hp Yamaha 4 stroke. The swivel was damaged by a rock at high speed and busted the mount on the swivel bracket. Any advise
Now THIS is the way a quality instructional video should be made. On topic and no drifting into stories or personal issues.
WOW!!! That video was SUPER concise and INCREDIBLY informative!! Thank you for all the helpful tips. I feel as though I've just learned years of wisdom in a single five minutes.
Highly knowledgeable and doesn’t say anything that’s not pertinent. All RUclips videos should be this good! Thanks.
Thanks so much, my release valve is stripped and it was good to see that it's
OK to drill it out before replacing it.
Wow, what a good video. You don't only have the knowledge and skills, but you can teach as well. And make a step by step video. Thank you, thank you from Europe
Thank you!
Kinda late for this excellent video. However, as it's really a timeless video, had to see how the lower 2 rams operated and were repaired. BTW, we just got through repairing the Tilt Unit Motor of a 130hp Honda [gunk inside holding the brushes from contacting the rotor] and needed the extra knowledge to work on those rams. What better time to work on the rams than when we have the whole unit on the table. Great stuff guys. . . it really helped! A heartfelt THANK YOU!
I don’t even own a power trim and I’m watching and rewinding this video lol... gooooddd job on your video my friend
I've got a 2000 Merc 250 EFI on a same year 23' Mako. Been working on it with my son. Great father son time. Since we're on a budget, trying to get the most of what we have.
I have a question on replacing the manual pressure relief or manual tilt relief or manual tilt valve, whatever its called. I had to drill mine out to tilt the motor. To replace it, do I have to remove the trim and tilt motor, or can it be replaced with TnT motor in place? It looks like there is just a c clip (or banjo clip) holding it in place, as the head has complete disintegrated.
New sub here!
I'll be attempting to restart a Suzuki 225 V6 2 Stroke has not ran in 15 yrs 😬.
Your vids and knowledge will help me out a lot to get her back in the water.
Thanks 🤝
Perfect. I'm about to fix a Yamaha 150 two stroke outboard and this video is ulta helpful.
Awesome video man! Straight to the point while being very informative. Thank you for sharing!!
Another clear, concise 'how-to-do-it' video; thank you!
Thank you!
Great video. I made a tool for removing the caps by using a small piece of scrap steel plate and drilling four holes in the correct place. Then simply put bolts through that fit snugly in the holes in the cap. A central hole with a larger bolt facing the other way and double nuts on it, allowed me to get a spanner on to turn it. Worked great.
That's a great idea!
I can't mention how much I love your channel man. Big big and very big love man
I'm servicing my 2005 f225 now. Your channel is really helping me out. Thanks guys!!
You're welcome! Thank you!
Fabulous Born Again Eternal Boating Mechanics .. thx for the wealth of info guys
hey i would like ur advice from 1:05 in your video I'm trying to get my manual trim release screw out but its stuck in their and the head of the screw is broken off i tried heating up a smaller flat and gluing it inside but that stripped as well seems very stuck i understand your part of drilling it out to release the pressure but how do you or some different ideas of trying to get that screw out so i can put a new one in . ANY HELP WILL BE APPRECIATED Thanks
Very good video! I have a question, at 3:12 you leave the engine on the kickstand and use the hydraulics down to suck the rams back into the cylinders. How can I be sure those little kickstands will be able to not break under all that pressure? Do you have to have the rams all the way into the cylinders to perform this? Thank you in advance for a reply!
I like it,straightforward and to the point.
Wow, Born Again Boating buddy! You saved me a boat-load!! Pun intended! Thanks for the excellent video!!!
Hello, how did you end removing the rest of the manual relief pressure valve? I'm having that issue.
This channel needs a million subs. Fantastic content.
Maybe one day!
Born again!! Need help! Did all 6 trim tilt assemblies. One seal failed entire unit fill with water. What is best way to completely bleed system so no water is left! My tuna trip got delayed again!
I guess I may need an air hammer cause the holes on my tilt end caps have been damaged. Drilling new holes was suggested but thinking the air hammer may be a better solution.
I have a 1990 Yamaha 40 up 2 stroke. The tilt/trim goes up just fine but leaks down immediately I don’t see fluid leaking around shafts but I don’t know where on this old thing to check and see if it has any fluid in ? It’s a single cylinder tilt trim unit any info would be helpful. Update the emergency screw on the side was stripped out and turned full opened unfortunately it was to far gone to replace so got a used tilt/trim and it works great now
Thank you for the great work you are doing! I've been watching all of your videos in the last few years. I have a Yamaha F40 4t for 10 years now. Lately the engine is coming down slowly over night/after few hours. I see no oil leakage, I checked the power trim oil level and everything seems normal. The screw to manually trim the motor is ok as well. I read somewhere that "If no leaks are found, it also could have been a cylinder bypassing internally"... Since I live in a small Greek island where no mechanical issues can be dealt with, can you tell me if you have a video about this specific problem? Thanks again!
Do you have any videos on replacing the trim motor ?
Always find what I need to know on Born Again Boating, three cheers!
Cheers ;)
Great video however I have a F70 Yamaha 2012 and the gland nut is a Hex cap not with the two holes. I purchased a 1 13/16" crows foot wrench that fits but cannot get the cap loose even with a 4 foot breaker bar. Any ideas, help?
What is the best way to go about replacing the manual release valve? Do you know which drill bit size and tap are needed?
Umm, just start small and work your way up with the drill bit :/ sucks
Hey mate, iv got the issue with the screw broken at the relief valve. What exactly did you do? And what did you replace the screw with? I'm kinda scared to drill it out?
You gotta drill it out and then use an extrator and then just put a new relief valve in :/
@BornAgainBoating hey mate, thanks for that will do it end of fishing season, I just used WD40 and a chisel to create new bed. Worked haha
About to take on this project on the main cylinder this weekend. Thanks for advice. You guys are doing it right. Wish u had a main cylinder video though
On 1995 mercury 150 to replace the whole unit you have to unbolt one side of the transom mount.
Is there a point where if my trim won't go above 1/4 that a whole unit needs to be replaced? It's in the shop for diagnosis but im going is just bad seals and leaked too much fluid
If the tilt and trim works, and holds the motor up on land. But the motor drops down during acceleration in the water, and raises up in reverse. What would you say the issue is?
Excellent video. Were does one get the round tool to undo the gland nut please???? (@ 3:36)
www.ebay.com/str/motostopshop :)
How u striped out the release valve?...excellent video!!!
Thank you! What do you mean with the release valve?
@@BornAgainBoating The pressure valve that were drilling?...in case is striped out !!!...while ago I did send you a comment in you gas sender unit. Happens that my sender unit was not working from half to empty driving me crazy just want to point that out . If you can post a video on how to fix the sender unit thread holes on a poly tank sender it will be very helpful, I clock mine drilling new holes since the thread was damage..some people tap them but I decide to just rotate the sender ,mark new holes and use self tap screws with #2 gasket sealer proved to be all gas resistant..so far working perfect...!!! thank you for all you videos !!!!
Best RUclips videos about boats and outboard. I would like to see something on the outboards e tech Thanks
Thanks!
I have a question about when you are sucking the tilt rams all the way back in. Do you have the manual release released or do you have it on trim? If it is on manual release and you actuate the trim button will it suck the rams in?
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Very helpful! I'm about to swap motors and do this on an 85 hp Force w/PT &T. Apparently the PT &T, according to the seller, leaked lightly. This comes in handy
Awesome! Thank you, hopefully it is a simple leak :)
Great video simple to understand thanks
Great vid, Quick question. On a 125 outboard force motor. Do you happen to know why my trim motor is making a loud noise once it's red positive line is simply touching my battery . Even before I have touched the trim toggle switch . It's making the same noice as if im touching the switch even when I am not touching the switch ? I'd greatly appreciate any feedback you can provide! Thank you so much for your help 😊
Sounds like one of the trim switches is leaking voltage, possibly the pan switch, unplug the switches one at a time and see if the motor turns off, it should be one of the switches. If not, unplug the the relays and it should stop, then work you way back to the switches from the relays, unplugging the trim wires until you figure out what's leaking voltage
@@BornAgainBoating I'll try that.
Where do you buy the seal/pin tools? I can’t find that impact driver with 1/2 drive
Did all this . News seals on the tilt and and new pump motor along with new pump seals . New manual release valve . Everything is working great besides a slow leak down :( any suggestions?????? I’ve been bleeding the crap out of it . It’s supposed to be a self bleeding system
The only thing I can think of is that the check valves are worn out inside of the unit or one of the balls in the valve is just not closing. Sometimes you can take compressed air and using a nozzle with a rubber tip on it. Shoot air into the unit through the fill port and see if that will dislodge the valve that's allowing it to leak down.
That's an internal issue and I don't think it is possible to get to those components. Well, I've never tried to take a unit all the way apart that far and see if you can replace the valve or clean it out. It might be possible, but you would have to take the unit all the way out and completely disassemble it.
If you had a leaky seal and water got in the unit and rusted up the check valves that control that portion of the unit, then you would have to replace the ball or whatever it is that is in that check valve to stop it from leaking down.
Sorry, that's the only thing I can think of. Let us know what you end up figuring out or doing. That can be frustrating when you trim the engine up and then it slowly leaks down while you are running or if you leave the boat in the water.
Can you just change the dust cover without taking out the caps? My 115 is not leaking but the dust caps are cracked and half missing...
2000 Johnson 200 won’t trim up or down. No clicking noise when throttle switch is pressed or from switch on motor. Now motor stuck in down position. Any ideas ?
Hi. How do you remove the lower pin on a trim motor on Evi rude 200? Been heating and beating but nothing.
Thanks for your video .You do a great job of explaining every step.
You are welcome!
Great video! I will be doing this soon, this channel is an awesome resource, Thanks!
Thank you! I wish you luck on your repair :)
Another great video. Your channel is so informative and full of tips. Keep up the good work! Thanks
I need to find out I've got a Force 125 horsepower and it's a 1990 model and I cannot get that rod out that hose for tilton trim cylinders in that goes across from one side to the other how can I get them out they've been tucking out because I got to put the cylinder back in I bought the boat just like that and I rebuilt the cylinder so how can I put the rock get the rod out to put the cylinder back in so I can put it back together please comment me and let me know have a very blessed day and be safe 🙏
Thank you so much for this video it just saved me thousands of dollars!!
This would be a good time to change to o-ring and teflon backup as well, you have it apart and installing fresh fluid. Just saying, it's your video and again good job doing this.
Watched several of your how to videos. I really enjoy them. Learned quite a bit from them. Any how. I have a 2012 Yamaha 90hp and I'm experiencing tilt issues that you may or may not have covered. When I depress the tilt button on the motor there is a clicking noise coming from the relay. Both up and down. I'm getting the same sound when I use the remote switch. I'm not sure if the tilt relay is bad or the pump motor. I ran a jumper wire from the battery to the blue wire and nothing happened. No click or whirl from the motor. Have you any suggestions as to what I should do next?
Thank you! You need to put power and ground to the green and blue at the same time, otherwise it won't work :/ check out todays video! ruclips.net/video/l80OS6CuSdI/видео.html
I have a pair of low hour 2008 df250's. I live in a remote part of scotland. I used your videos to help me maintain them. I had to replace the lower hinge pin and seals on one of the lower ptt rams. Now when I tilt that motor down from the fully up position, just before it transitions from the tilt ram to the trim rams, it bounces a few times. I have fully cycled the ptt unit dozens of times and topped up with ATF. Any clue as to what is wrong?
Great video, I have a problem with my outboard, when you put it into reverse trying to back it off the trailer the motor climbs out of the water.
Do you have any suggestions, Thanks
Make sure it is full of fluid and then also make sure the manual release valve is operating properly
@@BornAgainBoating Thank you, I'll try that hopefully that takes care of the problem.
Why do I see so many people having issues when powering the boat on or off a trailer! First of all a lot of boat ramps do not allow you to power on or off of your trailer, Secondly even if it was allowed it is a very disrespectful thing to do! The biggest problem is when idiots use the engines to power onto the trailer, It causes a big washout and then a sandbar behind it! Get your lazy butt off of the boat and crank it onto the trailer! And if you are too lazy to hand crank it just get an electric winch! There is absolutely no reason to wash out the boat ramp!
@@NeverEnoughPyro40 If you had read the post you would see I was trying to get it OFF the trailer, we had the truck into the water passed the muffler, the boat was not moving, also I am not a LASY BUTT and not a IDIOT. Thank you for your post it was very helpful.
Just what I needed! Thank you!
I really enjoy your how-to videos. Have a question concerning an issue with the trim tilt on a 2012 90hp Yamaha motor. I'm getting a clicking sound from the relay but no motor sound. I ran a wire directly to the battery and no motor. Is it safe to say that the motor is frozen or still possibly the relay bad?
You can try wiring 2 or 3 12v batteries in series to create 24/36 volts and directly connect it to the motor, the temporary voltage shock can unfreeze the motor
my engine wont push down the trim rods, any idea why this is happening? it goes down with the manual valve and back up from bottom with the motor,. but it wont go down even if I stand on it
Question guys, the hydraulic fluid reservoir is the same for the upper piston so the leak affects all the trim system? Is that okay? Thanks!
Yes, the reservoir is for the whole unit. So any leak at any point in the unit will create an issue over time. If left for too long the unit will eventually fill up with water and start to fail internally and rust from the inside out!
@@BornAgainBoating many thanks !!
Thanks a ton for your videos. I found a cap wrench option at Marine Tech tools. My caps were stuck and I ended up breaking a couple of pins, but finally got them off. Replacement pins were cheap.
Awesome! Congrats on getting them off, sometimes they can be a nightmare, especially when you start breaking pins :)
Great info I like watching your videos thank you for your time
Hello, great video, was wondering I have a 70hp, well boat, can't seem to work the tilt/trim, won't go up because of the "well" do you think it would go up if I took the bottom unit off, cause I need to have the motor go 100% up.?
That's an interesting question. I don't have a lot of experience with well boats but I guess it all depends on how the boat is set up and how things are moving there. What do you mean take the bottom unit off? the well of the boat?
@@BornAgainBoating I'm speaking of the lower unit or can I raise the motor off of the boat and work on my tilt and
with it hanging in the air.off do I need pressure from the motor to bleed it the tilt if the motor is suspended in the air..
If the pipes are known to rust up, why not get the coated/plated? I was taught if replacing one side of a system (the seal in this case) go ahead and replace the other side as it's failure is likely....
No anti-seize on threads?
I was thinking they used to come painted to be honest, I agree with you completely! You're right on changing out both of them too, but sometimes one side isn't as bad as another. Like if one of the rams gets a knick in it, then that is what is causing the failure. Not necessarily the age :) Good looking out! Not sure why I didn't put any grease on the threads. Usually, I do!
@@BornAgainBoating Ah, roger.
Can this be done with the power trim off the engine
I have my trim disconnected from the motor to try and fix this problem. can this be done ?
Thanks for making great videos! I always learn something 🤙
I see ppl usually do only the trim rams but never the tilt ram.
Does it not need seals replaces.?
Im thinking about doing mine but no one has vids on the tilt ram.
The trim rams are just more commonly needed than the tilt tube seals.
They do go bad though, and need replaced. I have the recordings to do a tilt ram but haven't gotten the time to make the video yet. It is pretty much the same as doing these trim rams with the exception of taking off the pin that attaches it to the engine.
As well as having to pull the whole ram out and take the bottom or top, depending on what style you have, of the tilt tube to remove the cap. Then the seals are pretty much the same. A lot of them also have an o-ring in the middle.
@@BornAgainBoating ive always wondered how the seal on the tilt cap comes off.
Unlike the trim trim rams which has nothing on the ends, the tilt ram has the mount that attaches to the motor at the top, if u slide up its stuck and if u slide it down it hits the base of the piston rod.
@@drakeastro8131 Yeah, you have to take the entire rod out and then stick it in a vice so you can screw the top off of it and then slide the cap off.
The rest is the same, take out the pin in the top and then lift the engine up once you get the cap loose. Pull it out and unscrew the top off.
You sound like you know what you are doing, you shouldn't have too much trouble!
@@BornAgainBoating ah, thats hiw its done. Honda Service manuals are hopeless. I miss working on my old merc and their manuals are alot clearer.
Thanks, 👍
Be very careful with the piston, it has multiple springs and check balls inside. When the nut come of they go everywhere and unless you have service manual you have to guess which goes where and they are not identical, Ask how I know.
Hey brother,does the starter needs to be hooked up for the trim to go up and down?
Yes, in some cases, the starter needs to be engaged for the trim to operate on certain boats. This is for safety reasons and ensures there's enough power available to operate the trim system.
I am not an outboard person and bought a 84 Astroglass fish and ski with a 90HP 84 model Yamaha on it. The trim will not go all the way down and the motor is not in a total parallel position. all the way down. What can be the problem? I need it all the way down to run the boat
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Man this video was so helpful! Thank You! Mine is leaking between the transom and t/t. So I guess I'm going to have to pull the whole t/t off to get to the screw. Enjoyed the video.
Awesome, thank you! Ouch that doesn't sound good. Yeah, you'll have to pull the unit out and check it out. If it's leaking from the back like that, the unit might be cracked in the back :(
@@BornAgainBoating great video although that tool is really expensive, I wish you showed how to drill out the manual release if is seized, wont the fragments go inside? Since its aluminum wont heating it make it worse since aluminum expands the most of any metals? Can you use a screw extractor for it? do you have a video for that
my merc 60 hp will randomly raise up and wont go down. The trim engine also seemed to be stuck and would not turn off till I disconnected at the relay switch. To fix immediate problem, I switched the blue and green wires to the relays to allow the motor go down so I could get back to the dock. Later, , I replaced the two relays-but the problem persists! Can you help me figure out what I am missing?
Could be the pan switch or the trim switch at the handle that has shorted
The best video step by step ever
Thank yo so much
so I stripped the relief valve screw - where can I buy another one? or do I have to buy the whole
Suzuki Manual Valve Set?
I think they come as a set, just the valve and the orings, but I'm not sure, youll have to look it up on the parts diagram
@@BornAgainBoating found it - #18 on this page - u were right thanks! www.brownspoint.com/store/pc/bp_AP_AssemblyDetail.asp?ID=84
I can use ATF fluid in a Showa unit on a 2006 Suzuki DF175?
I’m restoring a 2002 trophy walk around and I can’t seem to get power to the engine or power tilt trim. Any suggestions?
Will the Moto-Stop wrench that you used work on other trim and tilts than yamaha and sea star hydraulic steering?
Yes, it will do a few other engines, but I don't think it will on the seastar steering cylinders. The seastar wrench works pretty well, you can hook a 3/8" ratchet to it for some leverage. Plus the caps come with the kit, so you can air hammer them off and not worry about destrying the caps :) There are a lot of different engines though, so they make a few different styles :)
Great video as always.
Good morning, have a 2003 tohatsu 30hp and need to replace the Power tilt &trim assembly..is there a way to remove unit
I'm not 100% on the exact procedure for that exact model. Most of the little engine's under 40 the trim units only consist of a couple of pins and then slide right out. You should be able to pull it out, there is definitely a way to remove it, I'm sorry that I don't have the exact procedure for that exact model of engine, but you should be fine and when you look at it hopefully it is just a pin at the top and a pin at the bottom!
Can you do the middle rod seal without removing the whole bracket mount?2002 Yamaha f225. Thanks
Yes, make sure you have the cowling off to get you some more room. Then with the top pin out of the top of the middle tilt ram, pick up on the lower unit to tilt the engine forward into the boat. Hopefully there is enough room there with the engine pushed up to pull the middle ram down and then out of the unit. Be carefull not to pull the ram cylinder too far forward and mess up that pipe. Usually there is enough room in the transom well to have enough room to pull the cylinder out. I'll hopefully be making a video on this in a few months. Sorry I don't have it up yet :) Good luck!
@@BornAgainBoating thank you..love your channel !!
@@jrtonka19 No worries! Thank you!
I am having trouble with the motor getting hot and shutting off. It looks like the fluid had a lot of air in it. We replaced the motor and ram seals.
Is this bleed technique the same on single tilt and trim units? 96 mercury 90hp. I may have to replace the power pack on my unit
Another super and very helpful video thank you so much! Could you do one on replacing the seals and zinc anode on a alpha one from a cruiser tilt arm? And include other important information to for maintaining looking for on these that might be a problem or trouble how to avoid the problems. Thank you very much I'm worried about mine.
Having issues with my tilt trim foaming even after rebuilding them and putting in new fluid , what do I meed to do to fix this problem???
would this process work for a mercury outboard that goes down but doesn't go up? would this just be low fluid?
The motor is running but it just wont go up.
Generally, yes. Check the fluid level and see if its low, then see where the leak is.
@@BornAgainBoating so we got it to start to move but then it stops... Just keep toping it off? until it goes all the way? It has no leak from what we can see and it was working perfectly fine for the last 4 years....
Your videos are really well done.
Thank you!
Curious to why you did not do the o-ring on the ram seal?
Didn't need it :)
Where you get that tool you used with the impact ? Is it a store in the Monroe or Dade county areas I would like to get One.i know you said Motostop
You have to order them from Motostop or you can get marine tech tools as well
50 hp Yamaha 4 stroke tilting up and down ok, but trimming is followed by slipping back down in the water, any ideas ??
Either one of two things: The manual relief valve on the side of the unit is leaking or not operating properly and allowing it to leak down. Or the check valves inside the unit itself are not shutting all the way and allowing it to leak down. See if there are any leaks and the fluid has got water in it, maybe just flushing it out and putting new fluid in there will get it to start holding the engine up again :)
I have same problem with my F150, will check valve and flush/new liquid, Thank you, always enjoy your vids and learn something new.
How to unstick a lower unit skeg on a older Yamaha 150 2 cycle motor. I can only pry it one half inch and it stays stuck. I assume my drive shaft spindles are rusted and stuck. I saw a video of a guy using wood shims but my narrow side of the skeg barely opens up to stick even a screw driver in . Since it is aluminum I gotta be careful when prying. Any Ideas? I saw a guy flip over his motor and put Gunk degreaser down the spline and let it sit for two days to get it to release.
If you can’t get the screw loose , use a chisel with the correct size wrench or vise grips , if that doesn’t work use an impact driver or have somebody tap on the chisel while turning
My problem is I trim it up and a couple days later I come outside and the motor is down, (my kick stand is now bent) what does that mean?
Best video ever. Thanks!
Wow, thanks!
Thanks for sharing
The screw on my tilt reservoir is stuck. What is the best way to try and loosen it?
I was able to get it loose by using vice grips.
I have a question, are Yamaha is fairly new and the trim works but started making a wired noise, just today while trimming it down once it hit the 2 trim rams it stoped, and one trim ram went down while the other stayed fully out, so it’s froze upright, what do I do?
Try to open the Manual release and see if it will release the pressure and let the ram go down, then see if it is low on fluid, but only check when the engine is all the way up!
Born Again Boating I was messing with it and It eventually went down but it really struggled
Born Again Boating do you think it’s air in the hydraulics?
Where did you get the tool to remove the piston cover?
Moto stop
What kind ATF would you recommend for a 1997 60 hp Yami 2 stroke? thanks!
Just regular ole ATF Dexron 3 is perfect! You can get a bottle at any napa or auto parts store for like $5!
Great, thanks and keep up the good work, you guys are awesome 👏
@@MrEzplay You're welcome! Thank you!
just ANOTHER GREAT JOB ! ... What Else... ?
Fun to work on unless you have one like I did. Glad it's done that's for sure
Haha, yeah, sometimes they can turn into a real nightmare! Glad to hear you got it done though :)
@@BornAgainBoating great video although that tool is really expensive, I wish you showed how to drill out the manual release if is seized, wont the fragments go inside? Since its aluminum wont heating it make it worse since aluminum expands the most of any metals? Can you use a screw extractor for it? do you have a video for that