Rock Icons Way Past Their Prime! Are They Still Worth The Ticket Price?
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2022
- Rock Icons Way Past Their Prime! Are They Even Worth The Ticket Price?
Hey everyone!
With 2022 fastly becoming the ‘come-back’ year for live music, it seems everybody and their sister is out on tour!
From new acts to older acts, al trying to make a come-back of their own, every mother’s son & daughter is out to collect their potion of your concert going money!
Some of these geezers should have stayed at home, and some are offering up a real lessons for the newer bands!
Vince Neil, KISS, Jon Bon Jovi, and David Coverdale have all received their share of negative press concerning their live performances this year.
Do they deserve the criticism?
Is KISS Lip-syncing? Should Vince Neil even be on stage? Has David Coverdale anything left to really say to his fans? And will Jon Bon Jovi recover his voice after Covid?
These questions and many more are all covered in tonight’s video!
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Hey everyone!
Michael here, with a great big thank you to each and every one of you for your wonderful well-wishes regarding my up-coming surgery!
I’m back home on bed rest, and am truly looking forward to getting back to tribal-related videos!
You all have been a true source of encouragement, strength, and inspiration for me, and I don’t take your input lightly!
Once again, a great big thank you, and well wishes to each of you facing difficult times in your own lives!
Upcoming videos will include my next video in my Led Zeppelin Decoded Series, my next video from my Beatles Unlocked Series, as well as a video showcasing Quinn Hedges’ brand new album, and of course more videos on the disrepair of the music industry, each focusing on the positive as well as what we as Rock fans can do in regard to letting the industry know that the same ol’ same ol’ isn’t quite doing it for us anymore!
So lots of stuff coming, as soon as I can crawl outta bed, folks!
‘We Are ‘The Tribe’! ❤️❤️❤️😉
Led Zeppelin reference here Michael "I'm gonna crawl"😬😬😳😳😳😁
What surgery did you have? I'm going in next Thursday for rotator cuff surgery and bicep separation or tear, and I have osteoarthritis in my clavicle cool! yeaaaayyy! and I've been at out of work for 3 months just gotta approved for long term disability yeaaaaayyyy!!! My recovery is gonna take about 4 months to be to return to some job, I not going back to my employer, since they caused my injury. and a full recovery for up to a year. Gettin' old sucks, but so do employers that don't care. Get well sir, take care God bless.....😎
Michael have you watched any of the Dennis De Young interviews as of late? what a pompous a** it's no wonder Tommy Shaw & James Young, don't want him back. The man is just so full of himself, he meanders & rambles, like David Lee Roth does, but Roth has ADHD & hyperactivity disorder, & he's a bonehead to boot, but I still love Dave. Dave is a funny, goofy pompous person. Dennis is a total "Primadonna" no thanks all always liked Styx, but him as a person no. He's very talented, great keyboardist, arranger, singer, performer. But those last to albums for me were a snorefest, bland no life. I wonder where was Castle Walls, Borrowed time, Lady, Sweet Madame Blue, I'm O.K , Grand Iillusion, Pieces of Eight, Light Up, Lorelie?, his songwriting was suspect to me. I think there was more co colaboration going on than we were led to believe, because the new songs suck not good boring😬😬😬😬😳😳😳😳🥴🥴🙄🤔🤔.
One former lead singer who still sounds good is Richie Furay at 78 his voice is till sounds strong, he limits his concerts to a few a month.He sings Buffalo Springfield , Poco SHF and solo ( Christian & secular)
So Michael I had my rotator cuff surgery & bicep surgery and everything went well, I'm completely out of pain now and I'm doing really, really well, I was already driving my car literally the day after surgery, doctors are freaking out about that, but I'm driving again. But now with one hand, my right hand my left arm is in the sling. Got other cool news to report I'm going to see Robert Plant & Allison Krauss in Lake Tahoe NV on 8/20/22, best birthday present ever, just 2 days after my 60th birthday. Super excited to see him, this will be the 8th time I've seen him perform since Zeppelin disbanded. 😁😁😁😁😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Tommy Shaw of Styx is still outstanding, strong voice and of course excellent on guitar.
How do you know he's not lip syncing...
Mark Farner (former lead vocal,lead guitar and primary songwriter of Grand Funk Railroad) still has great vocal range and projection, excellent guitar skills and amazing onstage energy, especially considering he is in his 70s. Still sings all the great GFR songs in the same key.
Farner is the only songwriter for GFR. Brewer wrote most of the lyrics for American Band with help from Farner while Farner also did the music. Brewer asked him if he could take credit for the song and Farner gave him the glory on that one. Sadly, as we all know, Farner let himself be stabbed in the back by the other two.
@@whyyeseyec So true. Calling a band "Grand Funk" without Farner is like calling a band "The Who" without Pete Townshend or even calling a band "Bob Dylan" without Dylan himself! Haha. Absurd.
Farner sounds like crap today. Don't know what Brewser sounds like now, but in the day, early 70's, Brewer was the bad ass voice not Farner. My two cents.
Don Brewer has a Roger Waters ego…
In the list of past their prime but yet not, what about Paul Rodgers? The man sounds arguably better than he did 40 years ago. Really a vocal marvel.
Paul Rodgers is still incredible
Samny Hagar can stand up there too. A decent voice in his 70's
I've been a fan of his ever since his "Free" days. Saw him when he fronted Bad Company. Unbelievable vocal power! You can really appreciate it when you see him live.
Paul Rodgers could be the only one.
100%
I'm old enough to have seen many of the greats in their prime (Aerosmith 1978, Foreigner 1979 for example) and I prefer to save my money and remember them as they were.
Yes Sir !!!
*EXACTLY* I saw GnR's first two shows in NYC back in the day. The thought of paying hundreds to see a bloated Axl with a wig on choking his way though the songs at half tempo is disgusting to me.
Just saw Iron Maiden on October 3rd. Still can put in a show on par with what they did in 85.
Roger Daltrey deserves mention. 4 or 5 years ago I though he had lost it. Then started seeing the right doctor and now … he sounds fantastic. Doesn’t have quite the power and range (or physical moves) of his youth, but in Boston in May, he belted out the scream from Wont Get Fooled Again like he did 40 years ago. Roger is ageless.
You know, WIA, I did have him on the list!
He missed the video by ‘that’ much!
Roger can still sing. Roger still moves on stage. Older than Plant but much more active than Plant and his voice has still held up unlike Plant.
You might of seen the same who tour I did when he was sick with meningitis. He sounded God awful .just saw him 2 months ago he was awesome .
I was also going to post Roger Daltrey in here. I thought you forgot him. He sounds amazing these days! I just saw them in May and he sounded great!
Agree
Robin Zander of Cheap Trick is the best around. Still nailing every note of every song in the original keys. Cheap Trick rocked the house down opening for Rod Stewart in Nashville last week. And Rod can still sing too. Excellent show as always.
Can Robin Zander still do I Want You To Want Me as Rod Stewart possibly able to sing Young Turks and Do You Think I'm Sexy?
Robin is amazing. He is criminally underrated, but those that know, know how great he is.
Jeff Lynne comes to mind as someone who sounds every bit as good today as he did when he wrote all those hits.
But ELO used backing tracks in the 70s too.
@@wheelerconover8723 And cellos....let's not forget the cellos.
@@drmodestoesq Is there something wrong with using cellos? It’s an integral part of the ELO sound.
paul rodgers still sounds great. you can tell he's over 70 not but still kills it.
sammy hagar was a machine for decades but recently you can finally really hear the age in his voice live but still does well though.
I saw Gene Pitney perform live about a year before he died, and he could still sing. He was amazing.
You nailed that with Robert Plant he knew his limitations and he made sure that he could use what he still had left it's called vocal preservation, & his voice is way better than most singers out there Coverdale should be renamed "Neverdale" his voice is done, Plant even said in interviews, hell I can't hit the notes anymore, that was another time a lifetime ago........ smart..... he's truly is a humble dude. "The Goat" Rock n' Roll singer
I love your ‘Neverdale’ reference, Dean!
Give us what you have, not what you had with back-up singers doing parts of your vocals!
Otherwise, I have you albums, and they are what I listen to, not you and your band of ‘Coverdale-up’ artists, who should be the headliners, not you!
If you can’t do the job now, we understand! Just don’t bilk us on your way to your retirement package!
Thanx, Dean!
Thanks Gregg for your reply 😁
Robert Plant is VERY lucky that he didn’t destroy his vocal chords in the 70’s. Even if you have the ability to hit high notes like he could, doing that every night on tour could easily result in permanent damage. He also used to smoke! The reason he still sounds good today is because he learned a long time ago to not push it to the max every time. He also still sounds like Robert Plant, a lot of other older singers don’t even sound like themselves.
Coverdale needs to do what Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull did. He has a guy that looks and sounds like he did before he lost his voice... he points at the guy when it's time for him to sing.
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine Never heard of Michael Noland - loved the Whitesnake gig I went to in May
Just want to say just saw Dave Mason who is 76 now. I saw him about 4 or 5 times in the 70s starting in 74. The recent concert was far and away the best of all the concerts. He sounded just like the old Dave Mason and played at least as well as the old Dave Mason but he also did three Traffic songs which he didn't do in the 70s. He did Low Spark of The High Heeled Boys Dear Mr Fantasy and Rock and Roll Stew and threw in covers of Can't Find My Way Home and All Along the Watchtower . I told you all of this to explain thats why any of these old shows are worth it. Sometimes it's magic. The only way you will know is if you go and if it's not magic it will still bring back memories of when it was magic.
I have seen videos of Mike Reno of Loverboy and he still has it at 67. Plus, Ann Wilson is still touring and still sounds amazing.
There should be a distinction between singers who sing with distortion, and singers who don't. Distortion destroys your voice quick, unless you're a freak of nature like Mike Patton or Nina Hagen. Ann Wilson is a woman and doesn't use distortion, so she'll never lose her high notes like a man would.
Hi Michael…Helene here! Of course I agree with you 100% about my main man, RoBert Plant. I think he’s done a fantastic job of working with his voice as it ages….totally rejecting the idea of being a “jukebox” but rather always “mixing it up” as he likes to say….Re-imagining the catalogue in ways that are sometimes jaw-dropping. And he picks his collaborators so well, to get the sound he wants. I have the deepest respect for how he’s handled his post-Zeppelin career. I’m glad you agree with me! 😘😁✌️
Oh you’re so right Helene!
What he did as Robert Plant & the Sensational Space Shifters was so awesome!
And of course he’s wonderful with the lovely Alison Krauss!
Just those two associations would be enough for any musician’s dreams to be fulfilled!
And then you realized___________ He’s of LED freakin’ ZEPPELIN!
I stand, as always, in awe!
Cheap Trick & Robin Zander still rule ALL!!!
I’ll be the first to admit that I am a Todd Rundgren fanboy. Todd is another one of those incredible performers who has been able to extend his career well into his 70s. I’ve actually met him on a number of occasions and was even invited to his house. I can’t count the number of times I’ve seen him live in performance, but he’s as good now as he’s ever been.
And I’ve seen a number of lackluster performances from him and it doesn’t bother me. Even on the bad day he does a great job.
Weird Al has grown into an amazing artist in his 60's. I've seen him in concert 5 times since 2015 and he's blown me away every time.
Al's vocals are incredible as well as his performance. No parodies, only his sorely underrated originals and a different cover every night, from James Taylor to Billy Idol. He can sing anything.
Al's tour is 6 months, 133 shows, barely a day off every 6 days.
Weird Al is a national treasure.
lol....really?
I have a comment to make regarding some of these bands that probably should be retired. I am in my 30s and am a huge classic rock fan. I try to go to 2-3 concerts a month, time and finances permitting. Over the past ten years I've seen Van Halen, Kiss, the Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, the Who, the Eagles, Brian Wilson and many others. It's a mixed blessing for me because I'm seeing all of these bands toward the end of their career, but had they stopped years ago when they were still on top, odds are I wouldn't get to see them at all now. Is it heartbreaking to see Brian Wilson use a walker to get on stage? Absolutely it is. But am I grateful I had the opportunity to see a living legend? Again, absolutely. Just food for thought here.
Robert Anthony Plant !!
Moves thru the sonic world so beautifully. Changes his performances to embrace the differences. Amazingly intuitive artist that continues to push new boundaries and has never stood still 🙌🏼
Absolutly!!!! Saw him a few weeks ago and he was great. His voice like him aged like fine wine!
Oh you are so right, Pauliney!
@@terrym9225 I have tickets for August. Have my fingers crossed!
@@w.geoffreyspaulding6588 thats great im also going to see him in sept !
I dumped Kiss when l was 16. That was a long time ago. I don't understand why people would pay to see them today.
I said the same thing about the Rolling Stones
I seen them about 15 years ago on their "Final Tour". I did it to see the spectacle of the show. Nothing more, nothing less.
Because they love their music and have a great time at their shows?
When I was a teen you would not admit to liking Kiss because they were viewed as clownish. That being said, everyone had their records and would listen to them home alone lol.
YOU ARE WAY TOO NEGATIVE
Man, this video really hits the nail on the head. I was a big Kiss fan when I was a kid (In the 70's), but I quickly grew out of it. I'm not surprised to hear that they're lipsyncing. They were always about the show and how to make more money. I'm not sure music was ever the real passion with them.
When I first heard the Cash cover of "Hurt", I was amazed. It is so perfect in it's imperfection. The guy just owned it.
I love this channel! Keep the videos coming!
Like many young boys in the 80's, I was a fan of the Bangles, particularly Susanna Hoffs. The band broke up in 1989 but reunited a decade later and, SURPRISE! Not only did they sound the same, they have all actually aged well, particularly Susanna. She is no longer a cutesy sex kitten, but I actually like her more matured look, even today at age 62 (63?). She recently did a solo performance on Independence Day 2021. The band also performed until 2020 when COVID hit. Nice thing about them is that they actually play and sing without electronic aids like autotune, and still sound great.
Tom Jones voice is still phenomenal. Amazing dude.
I've been in love with Tom Jones since I was a little girl and now we're both old. Lol he's ageless and timeless.
❤ Tom Jones. His family and my family hail from the same part of Wales. He is a gem!!
I heard a recent clip and I swear he sounds as good as he ever has.
thanks yes I'm still amazing. T.J.
Sammy Hagar still astounds with his undiminished power and range-and he's a 112 years old!
Graham Bonnet has been touring and singing all types of pop music since the late 60's and still has great power and control of his voice!
I saw Graham 4/5 years ago and I’m sure the backing vocals were pre-recorded. The rest of the band were goldfishing along. As for Whitesnake,I chose not to see the farewell tour as I had sensed David was struggling increasingly year on year. Glenn Hughes still retains most of his range. Often Glenn gets more appreciation when he manages to reign it in. Glenn plays bass guitar also, so remains a magnetic performer.
@@LEEFORDJAGG yeah saw graeme last year and was some really high harmonies, did seem a bit too perfect
One artist still performing is Mark Farner from. Original grand Funk. I was blown away when I saw him a few years ago. He could sing everything he did in his past and I saw him a few times in his hey days. He was so strong and right on as well as his guitar playing.
Speaking of Coverdale and Deep Purple, it’s amazing how Glenn Hughes is still belting it out like a pro.
Some channels like yours can be hard to watch, (one in particular), but I truly enjoyed yours and it made so much sense. I'm a fan now!
Robert Plant is the only one smart and disciplined enough to avoid crapping all over his legacy. As much as I love Zep and would have been all over a reunion show following the O2 performance in ‘07, Plant did the wise thing and kept it to a one-off.
Cohen’s voice actually became more authoritative and suited to his songwriting the older he got. Magnificent.
As usual Bruce, wonderful points here! Your comments show the same insights that your videos show on your channel ‘The R&B Show’!
I strongly encourage all of my viewers to check your channel out every chance I get! Wonderful stuff!
I agree with you regarding a tour after O2, but brother, had it happened, I woulda been there with bells on!
That show showed that the three original members along with Bonzo Jr., still had a magic that oh so closely matched their former greatness!
To have actually seen the greatest Rock guitarist of all time, along with Rock & Roll’s premiere multi-instrumentalist, and them fronted by the greatest singer of the 20th century, would have blown what’s left of my mind!
And then a miracle upon a miracle! John ‘Bonzo’ Bonham had a son! A son who was either inspired ny his father’s legendary skill, or because of some DNA-Influenced ability, has a lot of the chops his old man had! He was literally born to do this job!
But you know Bruce, I think that Robert’s decision not to continue with an extended tour is exactly why Robert Plant is one of Rock’s true elder statesmen!
Robert’s recent musical endeavors, although not as earth shattering as Led Zeppelin, I feel not only forges new musical frameworks, but also embraces the need to expand upon that which came before, showing him to be one of the few creative artists that never really lost his way!
It artists like Robert Plant, Kronos Quartet, Dead Can Dance, and Carlos Nakai, who are willing to embrace that whole Rock-N-Roll-Outlaw identity, believing that rules were meant for the masses, and art sometimes demands rule-breakers and Trail Blazers!
A few have commented that I’m just another Boomer, boasting of the good old days, and complaining about how music nowadays just ain’t what it used to be!
They say I’ve used the ‘worst of now’ and compared it to the ‘best of then’! They’ve commented that I’ve only covered Pop-Icons of the 2000s to prove my point, all the while ignoring great artists who are, and have been creating truly great music all along!
They have mentioned that bands and artists like Radiohead or Beck, have been excellent at producing truly innovative and even brilliant works!
And I agree with them regarding these artists who have done their part to continue to evolve the sound of Rock & Roll!
But Radiohead and Beck aren’t what casual music listeners hear when they tune into what’s on the Top 100 on Billboard, let alone the Top 10!
And there have been a ‘Litany of Britanys’ long before The Mickey Mouse Club 2,0! Horrible Pop music can be found in every era and decade!
In the 60s & 70s we had plenty of crap that sometimes made you wanna put on something by Perry Como, and watch paint dry! If Songs like ‘Torn Between Two Lovers’, and ‘I Honestly Love You, weren’t enough to make you ill, there was always ditties like, ‘I Am Woman, Hear Me Roar, Or the equally offensive ‘Do You Think I’m Sexy’!
And when you thought that the insipid ‘Billy Don’t Be A Hero’ could never be topped as an all-time low, lyrics like “Goodbye Papa, It’s hard to die, with all the birds singing in the sky” from the even worse ‘Seasons in the Sun’ would send you running to the nearest vomitorium leaving you holding your fiddle like Good ol’ Nero himself!
Boomers vs Millennials isn’t the problem!
I want to be a witness to at least one more event like Elvis in the fifties, The Beatles, in the sixties, Led Zeppelin in the seventies, The Police in the eighties, and Alice In Chain & Nirvana in the nineties!
Remember, never hire a Mouseketeer to do anything except, well Mouseketeer!
With many embracing the enticing and immediately gratifying world of gaming, and find similair thrills interacting on social platforms, many find it difficult to focus and quiet the mind!
I feel the next big Rock-Era will be the ‘Multi-Media-Artist-Era’… I be covering what I mean by this in my upcoming video covering what the next Rock Icons need to offer specifically!
That’s gonna be an eye opener for many who are capable of thinking ‘outside of the box’!
The days of the the 7-Headed TV/Radio/Film/Recording/Newspaper/Magazined Hydra is over! Even when this worked it couldn’t account for the occasional Beach Boy, or Beatle who would then in turn, turn the music industry on it’s head!
These geniuses didn’t rely on the music Industry! Rather they often butted heads with it! Maybe it’s time to do it again!
Sorry, Bruce, for the long-winded response, but you really seem to have the knack for starts ‘My Mind (to) Wandering’, and that’s always a dangerous proposition!❤️😉👌
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine It’s always a pleasure getting your keen (and always entertaining and forthright) insights on things. That’s why your channel is kicking ass.
What many people don’t point out in all this generational talk about old vs new artists is that it’s not just an issue of talent. It’s the fact that music itself has been devalued in status/importance. Back in the 60s-80s, it was the epicenter of youth culture. Now, it’s just more disposable content to skim through. No one is incentivized to bust ass on creating truly great albums when albums themselves no longer sell (unless you are “Tay-Tay,” Adele, or Beyonce maybe). It’s just one of many homogenized entertainment options now and being in a legit rock group is probably (and sadly) the farthest thing from “cool”.
I could go on, but I too feel like the old-man-screaming-at-cloud cliché. I’ll own it too!
As always, I’ll be looking out for your next video! Let’s see about getting our Wings video done next month if still interested. I’ll finally have some time then. 👐
@@BruceColon-BSides
Yes! I would love to! Let me know how you feel you’d like to approach the whole thing, and we’ll figure it out!
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine Sounds good. I’ll hit ya back this weekend about it. I did like your idea of counting em down, perhaps alternating one-by-one? Been great re-visiting these.
I think he could of done a show with Zeppelin once per week and Plant would have been fine.
Michael, you hit it out of the park on every single show. This was a grand slam home run like so many of your shows. This particular show is perfectly time with all our aging rock gods on tour today. You absolutely nailed it and I hear Kiss is adding another 100 shows. I've been planning something similar but A good guest is coming on Sunday. Join us as we discuss rock stars that have gone into acting and vice versa. We will have a special guest whose career will also be highlighted. Michael join us Sunday 7/17 @ 6:30 p.m. PST on Royce in the House (You Tube) Live Podcast. Thanks brother!!!
I saw Kiss on one of those late night shows and couldn't help saying out loud: "Retire already!"
Hey Royce! Let me know who your guest is, and specifically what your covering, and I’ll do my best to attend!
You guys did a great show last week, btw!
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine Hi Michael our guest is Billy Blair ll he started as a musician and crossed over to acting. The topic is musicians that successfully crossed over into acting and vice versa. It should be a really good show tonight love to have you join us brother.
One artist that really impressed me when I saw him live was Iggy Pop. He was in his 70s but man did he perform like he just debuted with the Stooges. He doesn't look pretty shirtless anymore but man was he still the godfather of punk and he played all my favorite songs. He is proof that age is just a number.
He has certainly held up well. Post Pop Depression is one of the best albums he's done.
He never looked pretty, shirtless or otherwise.
Yep he gives to the crowd.
I almost died laughing when you said 'we will pay any amount of money for any geriatric to show up on stage'. You are spot on. I was gifted two tickets to a Foreigner concert. There wasn't any original members on stage and the crowd went crazy. I felt crazy when mic came out an hour into the set. Kelly is good but he's no Lou.
I've seen Foreigner a couple times and they're great. Lou is without a doubt a legend but I'm thankful their music can be enjoyed by a new generation of fans. They put on a quality show and have put together very talented musicians. When the crowd goes crazy it makes me happy they're enjoying the music from my generation.
@@oblivieon1567 They are ALL great musicians, but it nothing like the original. I love it when older groups love the mighty dollar MORE than they hate each other.
I wanted to highlight Randy Bachman who was dead on in his singing and playing at a live show in recent times. He was amazing and sounded like it was 1974! The band Sparks has two members-Ron Mael and Russell Mael-performed two nights in NYC in April of 2022 and sang and played at peak levels at age 74 and 76. Amazing! They sounded better than they did 40 years ago and were stunning performing live. Spectacular.
Hans, Elmer! I’ll check these out!
Whatever happened to Overdrive? You never hear about Little Stevie Overdrive!
Not sure about BTO , I seen the Guess Who in 2001, With Burton and Randy on Guitar, but apparently they were replaced with phonies and started playing State Fair gigs, lowering the name of the Guess Who. Burton and Randy Bachman are done with them!
Saw Jon Anderson from Yes play to a packed house last night at 73 years old and still effortlessly sounding like its 50 yrs. ago
Jon still has it seen perform with Jean -Luc Ponty a few years ago
Saw him in March. Gorgeous voice and music for his age.
I know why Jon Anderson is so good, he has a very high speaking voice. Listen to him in interviews, also he has really, really, kept his voice safe, lots of singing opportunities over the years, exercising the vocal chords keeping them warmed up, lots of tea & lemon. Did you know he was fired from Yes in 2012? He'd lost his voice, don't know it was vocal chord surgery or allergies & they sent him packing. He's singing great now.....Check out Yes 50th Anniversary performance with Trevor Rabin, Rick Wakemen.... Jon is amazing this was 2018
@@deanjones9082 Yes contained quite the interesting lineup over the years. Heck they had Trevor Horn and Geoff Downes of The Buggkes at one point for a brief time before those two left and Geoff got to come back to Yes years later while Trevor went onto to become a successful producer for tracks such as Owner Of A Lonely Heart for Yes, Kuss From A Rose by Seal and even All The Things She Said by Tatu
I totally agree. But he's 77.
Brilliant stuff and so interesting! Thanks for interpreting all this so exquisitely!! Adrian checking in from Bermuda!! 😊😊😊
Great vid! Well done pops! 😉
Love your show brother! You are very informative and I love your knowledge of music and artists. To your continued success and prosperity! Yes, I'm a fan! :-)
Thanx, Eferem!
I just look forward to comparing opinions with you when you do this kind of a set up. You are SO right on most of the time. I really agree about the singers who CAN still perform and the fact Frank Sinatra (throughout his long career) glided through the decades. I spoke with a friend who had seen Paul perform. He said , "you know ....his voice just isnt as good as it was." And I think no sh-t sherlock the man has performed successfully for like 2 or 3 lifetimes. And I would imagine a live performance to be just wonderful. Love your POV!
I LOVE this channel. Thank u
Robert Plant teaches us about authenticity. He knows his own strength and he knows what he is going to do with that.
Yohanes couldn't agree more.
Having been a fan and follower for years I could never knock the career of Brian Wilson. Now at 80 years old, Brian basically sits at a piano and talks thru a few songs. The band is enjoyable as they perform all those great songs from the 60's and 70's, and for the most part ticket prices are reasonable.
Oh I’d watch Brian bite his nails, DaddyBog!
He, like McCartney are stuff of LEGENDS!👌😉
I consider it an honor to be in the same room as Brian Wilson.
Saw Brian with (of all people) Jeff Beck a couple of years ago. He was singing the "Mike Love" range lyrics of the old BB hits while some young guy was singing the falsetto that we always attributed to Brian.
@@jdevine42 You had original member Al Jardine and that was Al's son Matt doing the falsetto.
@@daddybog7189 Yup Al ws also in the band...Great show
Don't forget Rob Halford the last time I saw Priest he still hit the high note at the end of Victim of Changes.
Brilliant analysis. Awesome job. I just subscribed.
Love your honesty brother!!! sending good vibes from NJ
By one's 60's, it comes down to the sort of music being sung. I haven't heard Plant sing live since 2010, but his Band of Joy show brought me as much delight as my first concert, Led Zeppelin in 1970. And he played several of the old songs, but knew how to adjust for age. Your suggestions for McCartney, I can remember watching Chrissie Hynde do this in the 90's - she rocked the Pretenders stuff hard through the late 80's, but by '94 the men in the audience were balding and she was focusing on the slower numbers, which was good - because Precious wasn't the show-stopper it once was. There was a Pretenders live album with a string quartet, I think, that preserved this phase for posterity. And those who weren't trying to rock hard to begin with are sometimes lucky with their voices lasting. Emmylou still sounds good to me live, but she knew to change the way she sang when she reinvented herself for Wrecking Ball. Sheryl Crow still sounds fine live, doing old and new material, and I think is over 60. David Crosby somehow still had a pristine voice live in 2019, though everyone that age skips the high notes and goes an octave lower.
I just don't see the appeal of going to see the geezers. And I am one at 68. I went to see McCartney around 2009 just to see a Beatle, and it was a good show, but it's been the same show for decades down to the fireworks in Live and Let Die. I went to see the Pixies in 2010, and they were fine even if they'd aged 20 years. I went to a few of the 50th-Woodstock-anniversary shows out of nostalgia. But I wouldn't see those artists again, and mostly it helps to appreciate newer music. Many artists from the 90s are still in very good form, and those in their 30's and 20's are a delight, still - if you take the trouble to find new music and to get out and hear it. Of course many of our tastes are stuck in our formative years, and I'm not sure why mine isn't, why I've sought out new music all my life. But if I see tickets on sale for artists I saw in their prime in the 70's or 80's, I almost always pass. I accidentally saw Jagger as a surprise guest, taking my daughter to a Taylor Swift show in 2015, and he was so far off key, and singing Satisfaction in his 70's, it just tarnished my 1960's-70's memories of the Rolling Stones. As you say for McCartney, maybe if he sang the slow numbers. Or maybe if he reinvented himself like Plant has. But the people still pay for the remaining Rolling Stones, who seem to enjoy playing.
Wow! Some great stuff here, alanogy!
You and I come from an era that produced rock listeners who knew what to listen for!
I would wish that for millennial listeners as well, but the industry doesn’t offer up front what they use to!
Sure we had our clunkers too! Billy Don’t Be A Hero, I Honestly Love You, and I Am Woman, Hear Me Roar were examples of lesser works, or at least to my ears!
But when mixed with A Whole Lotta Love, Magic Carpet Ride, & even She Blinded Me By Science later, we always got a better blend of POP music!
Then a Litany of Britanys ensued! Ive said it before, and I’ll say again… OUCH!
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine Yes, I have to admit that while I keep finding new music I love, what's in the mainstream leaves me pretty cold, and has for 20 years. There's good songwriting still out there playing to a small audience, and there are still rockers - saw the Distillers a few years back in a crowd full of tattooed old punk rockers in wheelchairs, show nearly cancelled because of the singer's back problems. Their opener, Starcrawler, rocked hard and were maybe 20 years old. I have their first record, but that stuff never makes it to the mainstream and I only hear new rock music if I seek it out or if it turns up on a community-run radio station.
Paul Rogers sounds as good as ever
Yes he does, thank God! One of my favs, Mag!
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine Listened to Free Spirit show from several days ago and shows no deterioration what so ever. Amazing! Only one I can think of One of the best ever!
Surprised Elton John wasn't mentioned. He has adapted to his voice limitations and still puts on an amazing performance!
He vowels a lot live.
Michael, could you do an episode on songs inspiring songs for example one of the greatest songs ever written "the Rain Song" was inspired by the Beatles "Something" or Kenny L. "Footloose" was inspired by Bowie's "Modern Love" and Michael Jackson's "Billy Jean" was inspired by Hall and Oats "I Can't Go For That" It amazes me how great songwriters are mused by each other. Lovin' your show!
Just started listening to your prrsentations and analysis Michael. Well done for examining some of the difficult questions with a fair, balanced and evidenced discussion...kudos to you
New subscriber here. Love the content of your channel, Michael. Keep up the good work 😎👍
Thanks Michael I didn’t know the tricks theses icons are using Love your videos mate ❤
Glad I Found You Great videos
Michael Sweet of Stryper is still killing it too. Love his stuff with George Lynch too.
What a fun topic. New sub but wanted to comment. Robert plant!! I was just saying to my husband last weekend how fantastic he still is after watching a recent show on axs channel. His presence, delivery, mannerisms and unmistakable voice were all there. It made me so happy. Hell, i was even proud to be old and lucky. Tks for the great videos..
I went to a Kraftwerk concert in 2004 and realised that I could'nt determine if I was played intentionally.
Four guys standing perfectly still behind their desks (hopefully playing an instrument). I did'nt care though. The video graphics were excellent, and all performed hits had a contemporary music style overhaul. And the substitute robots performing, that was the icing on the cake.
By the way: Judas Priest is a fine example of bands with aging singers. We all know Rob Halford can no longer be Screaming For Vengeance, and at times in the past I have thought it was time for Rob to retire, but the spirit is still there today. And the motorcycle ;-)
Love this channel!
Nice video. The names that could go on this list go on and on. John Fogerty doesn't sound like CCR and hasn't for a LONG TIME. I haven't heard Ian Gillan try to hits those high notes in a long time but I'd be surprised if he could hit them like he used to. I can't think of any more right now but there has to be a lot. It's just something that happens to most people. And you made a great point towards the end. A vocal coach would help all of them. I think many would be afraid a vocal coach would affect their style. Probably ego also plays a role for some.
Thanks Michael.
Gotta mention Tom Jones. Over 80 now and still singing at a high level. You tube has a bunch of vids recorded July of last year and he sounds amazing.
Tom is one of the exceptions.
so does shirley bassey at 85!
Thanks I am indeed amazing. T.J.
seen Motley Crue in 1987 with WHiteSnake opening. Vince Neil sounded awful back then and also forgot lyrics then. It didnt help he fell down the steps onstage with a bottle in his hand in the first minute. His vocals are just studio tricks with overlays. I am shocked he is still alive.
I saw The Zombies just last night! They really pulled it off with the energy of rockers in their 20’s. At 77 Colin Blunstone and Rod Argent were totally engaged and pulled off a show that would have rockers half their age out of breath.
They do sound really good!
Bluntstone had one of the most amazing and iconic voices of classic rock from the 60's and 70's, and yet he does not seem to have as much public acclaim and notoriety as some of his more pedestrian vocal contemporaries do.
Totally agree. Saw them a couple of weeks ago and they were amazing. Put together a very entertaining performance.
Just saw Uncle Ted last night here in Jacksonville. He was in top form, as cocky and mouthy as ever and I love it…
🤘😎🤘
Peter Cetera was smart to get out before he completely lost his voice. Near the end, he had to drop some of his songs a couple of keys to make up for his deteriorating vocal range. That was a major issue when it came down to whether he would rejoin Chicago at the Rock 'N' Roll Hall of Fame ceremony. He decided not to do it.
That was a good choice on his part. When a band has to rely on bringing young women in to help them hit the high notes on their songs, it is time for them to retire
@@jeffreysnow2640 Tell that to Motley Crue!
Alice Cooper still kills it live!!
Also I can't speak for everyone my age but I know I'd consider paying a good amount to see someone like Paul McCartney live while he's still out there touring no matter what he sounds like. You hear his studio music so often. I'd rather experience him while he's old preforming than not at all. Though Kiss lip singing... I'm not sure I can overlook that.
Once again, great show!
Thanx, Dan! You did such a great show yourself on Sunday! Awesome!
I guess it depends on what kind of show they are trying to put on. I try to see the legends and classic bands before they are gone. Most have been great...because they are secure in their careers, know their audience, and actually engage with some interesting stories and insights to their music that wasn't there when they were wild child's. They often bring in top notch musicians to cover any slip they may have suffered. I recommend seeing any band/person while you can.
Agree
I absolutely love your unfiltered opinion. Keep up the good work.
Thanx, ZR!
I saw The Dead & Company last week and Bob Weir still sounds great. Obviously he was never a singer with "amazing range" and John Mayer handles a good chunk of the vocals, but you could probably play me something from the current tour and trick me into thinking it was from thirty years ago.
Van Morrison is still singing and changes the arrangements, the songs are still fresh. Also writing new stuff.
It's unrealistic to expect a singer in their 60s or 70s to replicate what they did in their 20s or 30s.
Totally in agreement about Come Taste the Band. An often overlooked classic.
Dude, hard subject to get into. I, myself am an aging guitarist/musician. My voice is not close to what it used to be, and my lead playing on guitar, while still getting it done, is not as fast as it was. I just sing within my range, and I know what runs to not try on guitar. Everyone goes through this. You hit it on the head when you talked about Robert Plant. He has stayed true over time. Peace
Love your Chanel and insight. In the late 90s 96? Went to see Frank Sinatra even though he was like my dad’s generation. And I’m a rock band guy. But because he was a cultural icon. And a great singer. But Jesus it was like watching your 80 year old grandfather in a tux trying hard to sing. Got to laugh but Frank just did not have it anymore. But hell he’s 80. Fast forward 25years later. Some bands & singer . Well what ever
Great episode,Michael. ✌️❤️
Thanx, OOTT!
Obviously a fellow Zephead! 👍🤘
Knowing you are not quite the most notorious Heavy Metal fan, BUT, Rob Halford is past his prime and it still crushing it LIVE in his two recent World tours, most recent 2022.
Great assessment! Well done.
New subscriber!!! Thank you for telling the truth about today's "music"!
I’ve seen Robert Plant 3 times. Twice with Page. Plant never disappoints live. He always puts on an amazing show.
Getting old sucks, you can't beat time.. these guys just need to hang their hats
I still listen to Robert Plants Big Log and In the Mood just as much as when I did when the album first came out. Same with the great The Firm album! Great vibe and never gets old! Genius genius genius albums! Love your show!
Oh me too, shoebox, me too! Wonderful stuff! What a talent that came our way back in the day!
I do Robert plant when Phil Collins on drums...Stevie Ray opened
Check out some of Plants work with Strange Sensations and Sensational Shape Shifters. Pair him up with Justin Adams on guitar and you get some amazing stuff.
Plant TODAY, sounds like he has a problem with a Big Log. Nobody says that Plant couldn't sing back in the day. The video is about people like Plant still raping the ticket holder when he should retire. Plant today is not the Plant of yesterday. Get over it. The man blows today.
@James Daniels You saw R Plant w/P Collins and SRV when Plant was doing anything but blues? I probably saw him on the tour that followed. No opening act but they added a horn section and BG singers for a Honeydrippers set
You're spot on about Johnny Cash, truly matured into his older voices, remaining the wonder he always was, same with Billy Joel but in a different way!! Really enjoying this vid, so glad you showed up on my feed!!! Adrian in Bermuda!!
I agree with you on several points. Nobody singing like they could back in the day and can keep the same schedule of concerts on tour year after year. You need to improvise and you need to rest. But on top of that you need to create new ways of showing your talent. If the fans love it then they'll buy it. If not, then they can listen to the older albums. If they have a problem they must realize that no one is going to live forever. Not you not them, and not me. :)
McCartney was very smart in how he approached his latest tour. Lots of time in between shows and didn't stretch it out over a long time.
Robert Mason ( Current the lead singer for Warrant) was hired to ghost Ozzy's vocals from the side stage back in the 90's. During the final Black Sabbath tour they not only had a singer ghosting Ozzy but a guy who played guitar and keyboards standing on the other side of the stage.
The one band that uses tracks on stage and doesn't really hide the fact that they do is Ghost. They use them because the way they layer the vocals to get the effects they want, there is only one way to do it and that is with tracks.
I never heard about this, Mike!
Thanx for the info! I’ll look into this for sure!
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine That’s basically what groups like ELO and The Who were doing in the 70’s.
Yes, I saw an interview that backstage singer a few years back on Eddie Trunk or something, but I forgot the name of the backstage singer. I think SHAAAAARRRROON is probably keeping that well hidden. Love the Ozzman no matter what. Not a fan of him using that auto tune though.
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine motley crue have been using pre recorded back up vocals and rythmn guitar tracks live since the early days AS admitted by mars himself
Mr Plant is a master at his craft, at his age his skills are unmatched.he has made the Zep stuff fit him very well going on 74 this August..it is Robert Plant so I'm not surprised he is still great!! And still my all time favorite singer
Glenn Hughes anyone?
Rob Halford has still got all his mojo. Very interesting topic cheers!
saw Whitesnake a month ago :) it was awesome show. those back vocals dont bother me at all :) all was high level
Agree with your assessment of Paul and your comparison to what Plant has done.
Back in the 70's I was a card carrying member of the KISS army. Still am a fan but would never see the band live now. You are so right if you can't sing then give it up. I saw the band live twice once in 1986 , and in 2009, my opinion that sould have been their last tour. Thanks for a great video and keep rocking.
How many "Farewell" tours have they done?
As a musician, I've watched one of my favorites, Paul McCartney, adjust to his diminished range that just happens to occur with age, can't be helped, by changing the key of his music.
Ella Fitzgerald and Aretha Franklin are the only vocalists in their later years who's voice never really changed.
I'm sure there are more examples that I'm unaware of but my point is that I'd pay full ticket price just for the honor of sharing a cup of coffee with any of these icons for five minutes, cuz their music and talent is firmly fixed in my head and heart from way back.
You are Great Man !!!
Thanx, Jeffrey!❤️
Good Video 👍
Still have the Stones. They're doing " Out of time" which hasn't been performed live since the sixties. I'm critical of the Stones and was reluctant to compare them to the original live version. I couldn't believe it actually sounded as good or better. Some thanks to Jordan , because he's trying to stay as tight as he can to Charlie's original drumming and that tune Charlie never altered. Very clean comparison to a song done sixty years earlier of theirs. 😎
Thanks to a cleaner lifestyle and a more disciplined approach, Mick Jagger was a better singer in his 60s than he was in his 30s.
Roger Daltrey's still belting out Who tunes pretty damn good for his age. Speaking of The Who, Michael (that's my name too), I love this channel, but I'm honestly a bit bothered by the lack of Who material here. They're easily one of the best bands of all time. THE best live band ever. Roger's roaring lead vocals, Townshend the lunatic guitarist/genius writer, Moon the loon's mad orchestral drumming and unrivaled antics, Entwistle, thunder fingers, god of the bass... come on!!!! Start mentioning these GODS OF ROCK in these epic videos of yours. It's sacrilege not to. Cheers 🍻
You are absolutely right, The Who could and always would blow the "Stones" apart
@@joebloggs8636 thank you. Fair paly to Mike. The bands he talks about are great, but to leave The Who almost entirely out of the conversation... no way. Mike's a Led Zep guy and I am too for sure. Let's not forget that when Jimmy Page first started to select members for this new band he recruited John Entwistle and Keith Moon to leave The Who and go with him. They declined. Keith commented something along the lines that that band Jimmy was forming would go down like a lead zeppelin (blimp/baloon). It was later when Jimmy found his second choices that he phoned up Moon to ask if he minded if he used what Moon had said as their official name. Facts.
Oldest performer I saw was Dave Brock I guess....Hawkwind, some 7 years ago, so he was like 74 then. Great gig it was too! Was with a friend who is some 13 years older than me and a big Hawkwind fan, he saw them first in '74 or something.....I was 4 at that time 🤣. We even had a short conversation with another fan as we were one of the first in the concert hall....guy comes up to chitchat telling he first saw them in '69 🤣......when my parents were still talking about having me or not. Very much an old geezer gathering but the music was solid af!!! And Brock doing his thing at 74 years of age, after consuming the stuff they have consumed over the years.....admirable. Great music, loved it! I was a bit drunk afterwards.....maybe a bit more than that as I lost my phone on the way home. 🤣🤣🤣
I shared a bunch already ♥️
Was waiting for Planty to be brought up positively, good on you..
really good video, if possible could you make a video on the doors, because i think the younger generation should know about their legacy
Absolutely agree.
She doesn’t fall into the hard rock category, but Cyndi Lauper constantly rearranges her old material in interesting ways to meet her current vocal ability.
Even still, she sometimes comes up short, but given a choice I’ll take an honest effort over a cheat every time.
She rocks enough. When you are talented, you can come up with different ways to present your music. Nobody is 20 forever. Tones and tenor change, talent doesn't.
@@jamie49868 Say Jamie, can Cyndi occasionally pull off her vocals live using the same music in the same pitch on her studio recordings?
I'm sort of a bit off put if artists need to change the pitch of music live
@@Thomasmemoryscentral Listen to any singer at 20, then at 60. Tell me there isn't a difference?
What I'm saying is that too still be great, you have to adapt and alter what/where you need to and make it work.
Russell Mael still sounds great when I saw Sparks in April. He was 73 years old.