The music and skill level of the musicians is nowhere near it.(And I think you tend to confirm that with some of your statements) But they are very popular and the longevity can't be questioned. Wow, I didn't know you'd be that savage in your critique of old musicians.
I stumble across your posts here and there and unless I've missed something, they're always negative. Stop fucking moaning and just enjoy the music. Age has fuck all to do with it. You're still blogging and I'm guessing you're around 80? Power to you. Just cheer the fuck up a bit. Beatles or Stones. Just enjoy them both.
@@pauljohnson5925 well…as you said…you stumble around his posts here and there. Having been a sub for awhile, I will say that the majority of his posts are very positive. When he reviews The Beatles albums or Zep, it’s all positive. However, his pet peeve are theses old rockers who keep touring past their “sell by” date and charge an arm and a leg for tickets. In other words, what Michael views as “going corpoRate” or “selling out”. And he just said that when he gets to that point, he’ll quit himself. It’s his channel, so he can rant as much as he likes. And saying he probably 80 was either just mean….or it means you are VERY young. If he’s reached 70, I’d be surprised. He looks like late sixties to me. And I’m 75.
@@w.geoffreyspaulding6588 heh :-) I gotta say, I kinda like Michael’s curmudgeonly outlook. Being a bit of a grumpy old fart myself, it resonates with and appeals to me. Seems to be a bit of a promotional schtick though - he lets loose with a gripe now and then but - as you say - most of his commentary (if you actually LISTEN to him and don’t just graze the titles and lead-ins) is fairly positive. Now all you damned kids - GET OFF MY LAWN!
I lived in a world that had The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, The Who, Pink Floyd and Elvis Presley in it, all at the same time! Not too shabby.
The notion that one can't be a fan of both The Stones *and* The Beatles is a bit ridiculous -- let's be happy that both bands are of our time, future generations will envy us for that
I would compare that to The Grateful Dead and Phish. I know a lot of deadheads that despise phish and vice versa, but, as a music fan, I dig them both.
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine and I agree w you Michael! My comment was more directed at diehard fans that believe it has to be one or the other (and I know you're too smart for that :)
@@jakewaldman6243 Let it Be is terribly inferior compared to the Stones’ best album ever, when they were in their prime. And no way they were copying anything then.. Gimme Danger copied “what” exactly? Lols I think you missed the point of the title, by the way. They were making fun of the Beatles’ saccharine style.
@Mike Barooshian the Rolling Stones were indeed the biggest blues coverband. We have a famous person, who met the biggest musicians ever, and even he told this.
I am about a decade younger than the guys in the Rolling Stones and just about all rockers from the sixties. Seeing them still rocking, makes me feel young. I saw a recent video of Ringo and he looked fifty, though he was eighty. Again I felt good that he was still rocking. So, as long as they can do so, I’m glad. Of course I won’t pay thousands to see them.
Mick Taylor is criminally underrated, can't be a coincidence that their finest work was with him in the band, shame there wasn't a bit more equity in the songwriting credits. It's a harsh assessment, close your eyes and they still sound more or less the same now as they did over the last 25 years. There's something comforting about the fact that they never stop.
His era is my favorite. It's sad he left because he brought a sense of fun to the band. Seeing him in the video for "It's Only Rock and Roll" makes you think he's having a blast.
Yes the MT era was the best. He wasn't getting the recognition, respect or possible royalties he deserved and the Stone's sound suffered because of it. Hey Ronnie's great but he's not in the same league as Mick Taylor.
@Mike Barooshian Yes, I read that in the last few years. I don't really don't mind bands that keep touring if they're doing it for the right reasons. The Stones don't even pretend they care about music at all. Seems like a bunch of guys that just happen to play instruments and The Stones is their grift. They're almost like performers in a Broadway Show about an aging rock band.
I saw the stones on their sixty tour just few weeks ago. It was my first time seeing them live. Im 19 years old and I gotta say Im happy that they are still touring. Otherwise I would have never had the chance to see them live. And I think that their performance was suprisingly quite good. Sure, their energy isnt what it used to be (although jagger was quite energetic still) and keith soloing was pretty bad at times, but it still felt that they were emotionally present in the performance and not just routinely going through the numbers. And I saw that they clearly stil enjoyed themselves on stage. I thought that especially their rendition of Angie was still really emotional and touching.
Michael, i totally agree about the status of "Honky Tonk Women". I truly outstanding song!! There was some originality about some of the early Jagger/Richards singles (The Last Time, Satisfaction, Paint It Black etc.). But there are some gems outside of those big singles (Heart Of Stone, Under My Thumb, I Am Waiting etc).
I've always found the concept of aging rockers trying to go on forever a bit odd. From the beginnings of the art form in the late 1940s through the grunge era in the 1990s, it was always a youth-oriented style of music that evolved and reinvented itself with each new generation. There is something jarring about having 80-year-olds hobble on stage and try to rock out like they did when they were in their 20s. Maybe a few can still do it, but most can't. At some point, it is time to retire. Rock may not have the mainstream popularity with the youth nowadays that it once did, but it is still out there, and there are numerous subgenres and underground scenes. Searching around in the depths of Bandcamp is fun; good music can be found there. I don't go to rock concerts because I can't handle being in chaotic, noisy crowds, but if I went to one today, I would want to check out a new, up-and-coming band in one of the underground scenes in my area. I wouldn't pay a fortune to see ancient legends who are well past their prime. I'll enjoy their recordings from when they were at their best.
I agree so much. I gave up most of the music from the 60's and 70's by the 80's, and am always looking for new music. Rock music's been harder to find since the dawn of the century, but it is out there. I am still going to concerts in my late 60's, because the local SRO venues are nice about saving me a a seat at the edge of the chaotic crowds, and live music feeds my soul now as much as it did in 1970. And there seem to be a lot of up-and-coming artists who put on great shows but don't make great recordings, so I'd have skipped them if I hadn't hear them live.
Wow Heather, I couldn’t agree MORE. Look for the artists that haven’t “made it” yet - they’re out there and need support to keep the music alive. The last “big show” I saw was the last nail in the coffin of big shows for me. To spend the kind of money you have to put out for a major touring act these days, then sit in the middle of 20K other people trying in vain to actually see and hear the band… in this case, two women in front of me standing the whole time with phones held high taping the show. Apparently those of us behind them were expected to watch the show on their phones? Also next to us were a group who came in late, two of whom were obviously not having a fun night. Very entertaining to listen to a domestic argument competing with the band’s less bombastic moments. Nah. Not worth it anymore. I’d rather pay $20 to go see and HEAR an up and coming hungry artist, one who’s on top of their game and not yet phoning it in, putting everything they have into their gig in a 100 seat club somewhere. Generally, people who catch those shows are there for the music, not because the band is flavor of the month.
I saw the stones in May 1982 in the apollo theatre, Glasgow, Scotland, it's still one of my top 5 gigs ever. 6 weeks later I saw them, along with another 150,000 at roundhay park, Leeds, England, it's still one of my worst 5 gigs ever. What a difference a few weeks makes between indoors at a great venue and outdoors with no atmosphere.
Saw the Stones in 1989 when they were touring “Steel Wheels.” It’s was a great, great show at the L.A. Coliseum (preceded on stage by an underwhelming G’n’R). 1994 was good too. They should have retired 10 years ago, though. I also agree that the Taylor years were authoritative.
I saw GN'R when they opened for Aerosmith on the Permanent Vacation tour. They were exciting to see because they weren't so glam, but they didn't know how to work a stage yet. When they did learn, later they went overboard and Axl was running marathons on the various ramps and scaffolds around the new 3 piece horn section and 2 backup singers to make it on time to sing harmony with a keyboard player for one chorus.
@Mike Barooshian I don't follow them at all and think Mick is pretty ridiculous. What I don't understand is "how much money do you need, Mick?" At this stage in life, he must have enough to get by on until he passes away. Or is touring just his way of keeping fit? If that's the case, we could just watch Sweatin' To The Oldies and crank up some Stones.
@Mike Barooshian >> Hard to read, man. That was one sentence! Yeah, it was the best Stones show, that one in 1989. Did you notice all the extra security-the Stones were still not taking any chances after Altamont. (It was the first tour that they played “Sympathy For the Devil” on since then.)
@Mike Barooshian I have no problem with wealth, but it has to be enough at some point. He won't live long enough to spend the bulk of it. It will just go to whatever family he has and they'll never appreciate it or do anything positive with it. Look at Bono... the dude runs a fake charity called The One Campaign and has raised over a billion dollars. Know why it's REALLY called The One Campaign? It turns out Bono keeps 99% and gives 1% to charity. The dude is a massive fraud,
Hi Mike. Great video. The Stones are and always will be my favorite music act. I was also around during the debate of are you a Beatle fan or a Stones? I was a Stone Roller ever since I heard "Heart Of Stone." I also like the Beatles, but not as much as the Stones. The greatest rock and roll band? Everybody has their own choice. You like Bridges to Babylon as your favorite? I didn't care for it at all. Exile On Main Street is my favorite Stones album and my favorite album of all time. Different people, different choice. I do agree with you that they have been promising new music for years and have not delivered any. I also am of the opinion that everyone, be it musicians, athletes, entertainers, etc, should retire while they are still on top or close to it. The Stones should retire. I did see them live in 1975 and it was the best concert I ever seen, and that is not taking anything away from Led Zeppelin, Bob Seger, ZZ Top, Yes or any of the others I have seen. On my Mount Rockolympus the Rolling Stones are number one.
See, Morton! You and I are the two sides of the same coin! You like The Beatles, but love The Stones, where I Like the Stones and love The Beatles! Sounds like two guys who know their music!😉❤️👌
Exile is the one I love, too. Sadly I never saw them live in the 70's. And yes, it's nice when people go out on top. I respect artists for -being- artists who can't stop creating and performing. But respecting their choice and enjoying their recent albums and shows are 2 different things.
@@alanogy Exile on Main Street had a great Lofi grungy sound but songs alone is no comparison to Sticky Fingers which was a home run from beginning to end. Moonlight Mile, can’t you hear me knocking, sway, brown sugar, bitch, every single one was a Homerun
@@michaelrochester48 Exactly how I felt in 1972 - I didn't even like Exile at the time. And you're right, Sticky Fingers is a perfect album. My taste just changed over 50 years. Or maybe I heard the home runs so many times I got tired of them. Like, Mozart's Jupiter Symphony, or Beethoven's Fifth - undeniably great, but when they're played at the symphony so often, to be educational or something, I almost never put them on the record or CD player.
Most albums the Stones released between 1968 and 1981 are top-of-the-shelf stuff🤘🏼 Sticky Fingers and Some Girls, in particular, should be framed and played in every household ! lol
Such a shame Brian Jones passed away so early, really liked his bluesy influence. Some of the early work of Ron Wood stuff with the Faces and such was really great and I think he is an underappreciated guitar player. His "call and response" guitar work with Keith for me is some of the most exciting guitar work I know. I saw the "Stones in 2014 in Oslo, and the concert was amazing though already back then you could tell Keith wasn't 100 % anymore but still did the job. Totally amazing that Mick Jagger does what he does at age 79. Actually pretty impressive doing what he is doing at any age.
It was worth it to me to see Paul McCartney at his tour opener back in April, 2022 even at $500 as it was my only chance to be in the same room with him. His voice is obviously leaving him (I don't know if that can be remedied or not) but he put on a hell of a show - over 2 hours. To your point about aging legends and bloated ticket prices however, had I seen him before, I likely would've passed this time. It's a shame that there is simply no one anywhere near the caliber of these legends to take their place.
Hey Mike, great to hear the mention on your channel! Yup, you got it, was and still am totally grateful you talked me into seeing the Paul and Wings show. I've seen the Stones a couple times, and seeing as how it's basically the same show each time, that's good enough :-) Now Keith, that's different....with the Stones, twice on solo tours, with New Barbarians.....can always see him again, but haven't needed to see the Stones since '94....Lovin' your channel!! Cheers!
I saw them in 1982 and trust me they were not right 😂 still they were the best rock and roll band from 1970 until 1990. Their best single for me is It’s Only Rock and Roll but they have so many gems.
Hi Michael! Helene here. Hey….tell us what you REALLY think..ok? Don’t be so shy! 😜 I agree with everything you said. Lucky for me, my favorite “old geezer” can still bring it! You know who I mean…
Hi Mike. Although you haven’t seen any comments from me lately, it certainly doesn’t mean I haven’t been watching. I loved this rant AND especially its title. I wished I’d thought of that! Just brilliant…and accurate. Everything you state here…is exactly what I feel too. Your criticisms are constructive though….and respectful…as usual. You’ve got a great channel brewing here Mike. Many seem to not only agree with your commentary but enjoy it as well. Listening back to Stones music over the past few months, simply to familiarize myself with it all, I liked quite a lot of it. Though I still feel that there’s much hype of fanfare tacked to them. I never understood “what the frenzy was all about” with this band. People flocked to sell out the largest stadiums throughout the years to see em. All the while I’m happy to sit in my car, rip a butt and listen to Zeppelin….again. I don’t know what it is….I’m just fascinated with Zeppelin STILL. I just like their product better than what the Stones gave us. Naturally I’m a rhythm oriented guy. I learned that early on. I have good ear and a good sense of time. In fact in my now broken up band, at a given rehearsal working on a given song, if it were obviously dragging, I’d feel it but the others wouldn’t. I just stop play my bass, and they’d all look at me: “What…?” I’m like….you fkn guys….are you all deaf?” Sorry for digression. I’ll end it now with: Zeppeplin’s products simply appealed to me much more than the Stones’.
In 1965 I was seven years old and remember hearing the Stones for the first time on the AM radio through their songs, The Last Time, Satisfaction and Get Off My Cloud. I followed their career and the first album I recall holding in my hands was 1969's Let It Bleed. The weird looking cake (or whatever it was) hovering over the vinyl record sticks with me to this day. Frankly, my favorite song on that album was Midnight Rambler. I was eleven. Here I am at 64 years old and the Stones are still in the news. I suppose the Stones are the only band that I've grown up with most of my life. It's weird!
Hey Michael, greetings from Australia. I was never an avid Stones, but apart from Beggar's Banquet, the Mick Taylor era was for me when their star shone most brightly. He really brought some class to their sound which was immediately lost when he departed. In their prime they were a great rock n roll but certainly not the greatest. Now they are just a parody chasing the money. For me the greatest is Zep!
Hey Michael, another great video. It seems to me that we are about the same age. Old Hippies !!! It appears that we love the same music and bands !! And the best part of this love, we grew up with these guys and girls!! Seems like yesterday I paid a double saw buck to see KISS, with BTO as an opener. Miss my Old Hippy days. Keep up the awesome work you are doing !!!
Music is only one's opinion of what they like, so it can't be right or wrong. I saw the Stones back in September 2021 and had a great time with 50,000 other people. As long as the audience leaves happy, the artist have done their job.
Question if you never saw the Rolling Stones and they tour now should I pay to see them to say I've seen them or save my money since they aren't doing their best?
Love the Stones but why do people always compare them to 'The Beatles'? Is it just because they're very successful and British. I would compare them to 'The Doors', The Who, 'The Yardbirds' but never 'The Beatles'. I can understand why 'The Beatles' are compared to 'The Beachboys' sometimes.
No one buys a ticket to see the Stones, Paul, Bruce, Who or Eagles expecting to see a band in their prime, although the backing musicians are terrific. It's an icon show and a greatest hits show. Period. Remember, a ticket is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. And someone's willing to pay for it.
When the Stones came out with Live Licks. I was playing the CD in my car. I picked up a guy. He was in the car 5 mins and he said, who is this imitating the the Stones.
Look out folks, Michael’s back and on a tear!!! Ha!! This was great (and very insightful too, esp the corporate aspect of the Stones, which most likely stems from the super business-savvy Mick Jagger). Even though the Mick Taylor-era is widely acknowledged as their artistic high-water mark (and I am so grateful that the one time I got to see the Stones live was on their 50th Anniversary tour where Taylor guested), my favorite era was with Brian Jones, arguably the greatest utility player in rock history. You didn’t mention it here, so I am curious: did you ever see the Stones live? If so, what incarnation? Absolutely great stuff here Michael. You’ve got me rockin’ (and laughing my ass off).
Having grown up with the Strolling Bones and the Beatles, by 1970 I was well and truly over both. I've wondered why I fell out of love for them and the only answer I have is that the hype surrounding the two bands overwhelmed my enjoyment of their pure musicianship. Today, I can't play either, even considering their exceptional lyric writing and musical crafting. Notwithstanding the output of both bands, there are still some exceptional singles that stand out from the Stones and the Beatles. The ultimate test is whether I'd go out and purchase a whole album and to date, my collection is still devoid of both. This critical selection in my music taste went beyond 1970 and I can only listen to certain parts of my favourite bands, including Pink Floyd, Deep Purple and Led Zep. We were very critical even about the catalog of music our fave bands produced. Back then, music was fan driven and if we didn't like an album that our bands released, we'd give it a ragging. Time did heal some of the criticism and I did get to enjoy releases I previously wrote off but for others I still can't revisit them for love nor money. I remember as a teenager, we were very tribal about the music we enjoyed and the window from 1970 to 1975 was the apex of the battle ground for the most intense division and criticism (with the occasional crossover). By that stage, the Beatles and the Stones were left far behind. We were spoiled for choice in that era and even though I appreciate the hard work of so many bands, my taste was always very personal and critical. Many times I wouldn't buy an album of my favourite band if it was mostly filler tracks. A few stinkers on the album would still encourage me to buy a release but not a whole side and the best bands could occasionally release whole sides of filler tracks. (I appreciate that this is a subjective thing but music is after all mostly subjective and a matter of personal taste) The mystique and elaborate narrative that plagued my appreciation of the Stones and the Beatles cemented them in a particular time and I can't get them out of that in my mind. This does not in any way diminish the major contribution to rock music and engineering innovation that they made.
Congrats... you have one more folower! I've recently discover your channel and you have great ones! I must disagree however on your opinion about Mick's voice. I think Mick have one of the greatest voices in rock n' roll: a powerful voice, with personality and a unique great sense of interpretation. My apologies for my english since it is not my mother language.
They were one of my favorites, but when I saw them live in the early 80’s I felt they were embarrassing themselves. It was like watching a car accident; it’s scary but you can’t help but look. I never wanted to see them again after that.
Hi Michael I saw the Stones Long Beach, CA 1972 then again on the Bridges to Babylon tour in Portland in 1998.Both were great shows. Had tickets for San Diego just before Covid got serious and the show was cancelled. It's a toss up if I go again if they get close. Hard not to but also how do I want to remember them? Awesome show as usual brother.
I’m a Doors fan cuz of the unique sound by fusing, jazz, blues, classical, crooner styles, flamenco, etc… More importantly they were about the art they created rather than chasing the $. Jim had a visit from Mick Jagger in ‘68 to see how a real frontman sings & performs, @ the Hollywood Bowl. And that’s why I love ❤️ the Doors and have disdain for the $ chasing Stone$
I have been listening the Rolling Stones for most of my life The first album my sister brought home was Got Live if you want it , and then Between the Buttons and then in 1970 I got Ya`s Ya`s out album and heard Sam Cutler announcer call them the greatest rock n Roll band in the world , and for me anyway they have stayed very consistent , I all so like Bridges To Babylon and Voodoo Lounge . Somtimes I think I wished Mick Taylor stayed with them but at least he stayed as long as he did and they put out great albums with him.
I dig the Stones and the Beatles. Very different bands. Plenty of room on my turntable to love both. I don’t mind bands touring past their prime. As long as fans are still showing up, more power to them.
Still once Mick and Keith die, the Rolling Stones is finished. Ron Wood cant tour under their name with lineup changes as it is in name only at that point
@@Thomasmemoryscentral I Wanna Be Your Man was not a Rolling Stones original,it was written by Lennon-McCartney and the Beatles version is on With The Beatles
Kind of sounds similar to Van Halen's first hit being a cover of The Kinks You Really Got Me. Two great bands got covers for their start but they proved later on they could do plenty of great originals
Bridges To Babylon? Ok. Wow. I’ll have to go back n’ listen to it again. Other than “Has Anyone Seen My Baby” and the great video, I remember nothing about it They haven’t given us a proper new record since A Bigger Bang. Unacceptable. Kieth’s arthritis gets in the way and Woody’s carrying him. Mick is somehow ageless. More power to him They should have called it a day after Charlie passed 🤷🏽♂️
I agree with you wholeheartedly re: the Mick Taylor era. I think I heard an interview with him where the rift between he and the other members came down to denying him writing credits.
I've had a chance to see The Rolling Stones 5 times since 1989. After their 40th anniversary tour in 2000 I wouldn't see them again until 2021. They still put on a good show, although about 50 minutes into the set Kieth was clearly getting winded and seemed to hit a wall, I thought the rest of the guys were fine. And since they vocal style is not over the top Mick sounded great. I've always been more of a Stones fan; although I have come to appreciate what The Beatles and Elvis Presley have done for music I have never been a huge fan of either. I did go see Ringo and the All-Stars on their second American tour, because of the back up band he assembled on that tour.
In The Studio…No One Can Hear You Scream The Beatles may have been a fairly good live band, but they threw a strop somewhere around 1965 because the screaming was too loud and they couldn’t hear themselves properly. The Stones would have just bought bigger amps. Let’s face it, from the footage available, it’s clear that The Beatles weren’t anywhere near in the Stones league as a live band. The Stones were, probably even still are, the greatest live act in rock n’ roll.
Saw the Stones in 1992 at RFK stadium. I wish I was old enough to see them in 1969, after a 2 year hiatus of not touring. Those were the Stones I wished I could have seen. They were in their mid-twenties (except for Bill who was 33 at the time).
Reading through the comments, I have to wonder if those who are critical of the Stones have ever heard Beggars Banquet, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main Street. As the Beatles split up, the Stones took over the rock world. Those 4 albums, from 1968 to 1972, may be the best run of 4 albums in the history of rock n roll. As a big Stones fan, I don't get the blase attitude of many comments on this video.
Having recently said after one of your videos that it was time for these old bands to hang it up I ran into a few younger people who go to many current shows and who recently had seen the Rolling Stones. They were blown away, had the time of their life, could not stop saying how amazing they were, the best they had seen....maybe they are not the band I remember from decades past and they were never my favorite band but even back then on some nights they would get it just right and if you asked me I just might have said they really were the world's greatest rock & roll band, it seems they were for them so I am reconsidering my opinion.
What is up with these super huge wealthy rockers like Springsteen and Paul McCartney charging us so damn much for concert tickets? Insane. They are already so super rich anyway. They should do a free tour or 2 before they retire.
I agree with you sir. I'm 65 and too old to go to concerts. And at 1000 dollars to see anybody play. I would rather go to bed early. When I first started going to concerts the ticket prices were 4 or 5 maybe 6 dollars and that was hard earned money. To see the same bands. Forget about it. How much filthy greed do you need? Thank you.
Roger Daltrey said it best 2 or 3 years ago about The Stones: they have the best front man in history bur the musicianship is not above garage band level. I agree and I grew up in the 60s and I am a true believer that the 60s are defined by The Beatles, The Stones and Dylan. All pop and rock music since stems from this triumvirate.
I’ve seen the stones twice in concert which was fun. I’ve lost love for the band after hearing Keith Richards say that Led Zeppelin’s name was “fitting” because there music never took off for him. And then the Stones blatant rip offs of the Beatles album covers and album names. They seem a bit arrogant
The reason people are still paying to see these old bands is because today's music sucks. You've said it yourself. I'm glad alot of these bands were still touring because I wasn't old enough to see them in their prime.
It has been Rolling Stones Inc. since the late 80s. They are addicted to the adrenaline of playing for large, appreciative crowds. Their true legacy is 1968-69 (which includes their writing Brown Sugar, Wild Horses and other songs later to appear on Sticky Fingers), followed by 1970-72. Their continuing to tour will hurt their legacy in coming decades.
PS what was so great about B Jones? His slide? the oboe? Keith was an inspired creative genius. Brian was a precocious "musician" who was too unfocussed to be intense.
Now 45's cost 10/- (about a dollar in 1960's) and that was a week of collecting drink bottles at 6d each for 20 bottles collected. I'd be 12 in 1963 at school and 2/- allowance from mum and dad was a luxury. Thankfully saw The Beatles live in 1964 but one thing I regret is never thanking my father for even thinking about taking me let alone getting tickets.
I do not compare the Beatles with the stones, both bands have individuality, Beatles ( excellent albums , creativity, awesome harmony ) lasted for only 8 years, stones took to a dirty level and moved on, millions and millions love them, some of their lyrics are kind of chauvinistic, towards mocking women( which I am against) but it's only Rock n roll, millions of ladies still love them, I agree Darryl should be a full time member just like Woody ( who was salaried till 1992) at least in the staged band pics, I agree I can't stand the fact that the fans do some kind of gating who to be a member, Steve Jordan replaced Watts, just like Taylor replaced Brian, I agree it's too corporate just after Wyman left... I kind of agree with you ....but nowadays they are just like a Vegas band, it's their charisma and legacy that drives their fans, not the music, they play the same songs again and again...lost interest in their live after they became corporate, but they are always my favorite band, one notch up the Beatles....I agree without their backing band, the stones show would be a total disaster......
Michael, they were my favorite band after the Beatles, but I totally agree with you on every point. Especially that they have sold out to the "corporation!"
No one ever complains about "old" blues musicians when they're sitting down or hunched over, and there are very few new artists I'm willing to support. As far as I'm concerned, I will continue to enjoy the older bands as long as they are able to play. However I do draw the line at excessive ticket prices.
Hola Michael !! Me gustan los Stones, una de mis bandas favoritas, junto con Zepp, Tull, Purple, Hendrix, Winter, y otras. Respeto a Beatles, muchos temas de ellos me gustan. Los Stones siguen haciendo lo que les gusta (envidiable) y la gente los quiere ver. Son un pedazo grande de la Historia del Rock. Y eso no es poca cosa. desde Buenos Aires, Argentina, un fan de los Stones de 67 años. Saludos !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For me the last great Stones album was "Some Girls". Everything after that sounded pretty formulaic and uninspired. I turned my back on them after "Voodoo Lounge" so I've never even heard "Bridges to Babylon". I'm going to give it a listen based on your recommendation, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Same. Saw them on the Voodoo Lounge tour in Australia. Massive disappointment. I described them as a Rolling Stones cover band. Haven't listened to any of their releases since.
Latest concert videos show that Ron Wood and Keith Richards aren't playing at times just strutting around. Talked to Stones fans who are musicians and they agree.
Never thought they were the “World’s Greatest Rock and Roll Band”! Their last good album was Sticky Fingers in 1971. As far as live, KISS blows them off the stage. Always did, always will!
There use to be an urban legend back in the day.... That if the Beatles farted in a tin cup eight miles deep in the woods, two days later, the Rolling Stones would follow suit
For me still one of my favourite bands. Saw them live in 94 and 97 and they in my opinion great. As for the Brian Jones I think he is both underrated and overrated . Saw couple of concerts on phone camera's and I was pleasantly surprised given some tours over years were a bit cabaret. The set list is a little stale.
Yeah, songs I was hoping for their last U.S. tour they didn't do-but I see they're playing them currently in Europe. Still, they will always have a special place in my heart!
I like to think that the Stones don't need the money and are just enjoying being up there with the fans screaming for them. If it's otherwise, I don't want to know, and I've not really got a dog in this fight because a little of their music goes a long way for me. That said I acknowledge they have some great songs in their repertoire. My personal favorite is 'Paint It Black' -- full of anger and rage in the sound and lyrics. BTW, I just watched the live stream of Led Zeppelin's O2 concert which I'd only seen a couple of clips of and it was wonderful. The surviving Led Zeppelin members had this one last concert to show the fans who they are and say goodbye to the band as an entity. Tales of them trying to get a new singer aside, I felt it was a great way for a legendary band to come to an end. That's not the way the Stones are doing it. Maybe it's a community thing--it makes me think of online sites where people have been congregating and talking and when the site goes down, people are angry at having lost that connection.
Bridges to Babylon a great album . Voodoo Lounge was great tour , Today we don' do arena shows . We have found some local venues and festivals { Even these are low key } We keep folding camp shares ready to go .
The best Rolling Stones concert I ever attended was their "Steel Wheels" concert in the early 90's. I had 6 front row tickets in the Cotton Bowl. Face value was $54 each.
Now those were the days, Dan! Just think of what $54 would get you today! A sandwich, a beer, and some chips, with just enough left for a tip, and the parking meter!😉❤️👌🎤🎸✌️
Great vid. Was a Beatles fan until I heard "Exile On Main Street" which blew my mind. To this day "Exile" is my favorite album, which I still listen to and not only do I think it's the greatest Rock album of all time, it's the greatest Country album of all time(along with "Sticky Fingers"). The Stones out Country, Country. Or, the Stones gave Country "Bounce". As for 2022, I'm not spending $100 plus dollars to see any band. Last month I saw Samantha Fish for $30 and the show was fantastic. If you haven't seen her, check her out. She's got plenty of live vids on RUclips.
Well here's to longevity. The Stones will always own that category. And they'll always one of the greatest bands ever. But I couldn't help but laugh at the " Rolling Bones " caption. Thats clever Michael ! Some things do need to end.
At the Altamont Speedway Free Concert- 1969 - someone in the crowd, sadly, bowed out from this world - now - up on the stage - we see some performers approaching the "Departure Lounge" (but not through the actions of any "third party") - c'est la vie, you never can tell.... Chuck Berry....
The music and skill level of the musicians is nowhere near it.(And I think you tend to confirm that with some of your statements) But they are very popular and the longevity can't be questioned. Wow, I didn't know you'd be that savage in your critique of old musicians.
Just calling an Ace Frehley an Ace Frehley, Scott!
The only thing worse than the stones stumbling around would be kiss stumbling around
I stumble across your posts here and there and unless I've missed something, they're always negative. Stop fucking moaning and just enjoy the music. Age has fuck all to do with it. You're still blogging and I'm guessing you're around 80? Power to you. Just cheer the fuck up a bit. Beatles or Stones. Just enjoy them both.
@@pauljohnson5925 well…as you said…you stumble around his posts here and there. Having been a sub for awhile, I will say that the majority of his posts are very positive. When he reviews The Beatles albums or Zep, it’s all positive. However, his pet peeve are theses old rockers who keep touring past their “sell by” date and charge an arm and a leg for tickets. In other words, what Michael views as “going corpoRate” or “selling out”. And he just said that when he gets to that point, he’ll quit himself. It’s his channel, so he can rant as much as he likes. And saying he probably 80 was either just mean….or it means you are VERY young. If he’s reached 70, I’d be surprised. He looks like late sixties to me. And I’m 75.
@@w.geoffreyspaulding6588 heh :-) I gotta say, I kinda like Michael’s curmudgeonly outlook. Being a bit of a grumpy old fart myself, it resonates with and appeals to me. Seems to be a bit of a promotional schtick though - he lets loose with a gripe now and then but - as you say - most of his commentary (if you actually LISTEN to him and don’t just graze the titles and lead-ins) is fairly positive. Now all you damned kids - GET OFF MY LAWN!
I lived in a world that had The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, The Who, Pink Floyd and Elvis Presley in it, all at the same time! Not too shabby.
I'm in the same world too,that's TWICE as shabby!!
The notion that one can't be a fan of both The Stones *and* The Beatles is a bit ridiculous -- let's be happy that both bands are of our time, future generations will envy us for that
I love them both!
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I agree, andré! But preferring one over the other just means you like one great band better than another great band!
I would compare that to The Grateful Dead and Phish. I know a lot of deadheads that despise phish and vice versa, but, as a music fan, I dig them both.
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine and I agree w you Michael! My comment was more directed at diehard fans that believe it has to be one or the other (and I know you're too smart for that :)
Sticky Fingers is my favorite Stones album. All killer tracks.
Let it Bleed is by far one of the best albums of all time. I can listen to it forever.
Modern music began with BEGGAR'S BANQUET. LET IT BLEED is still considered current.
Blatant rip off of “Let it Be”🤣
We’ll get to that wonderful masterpiece in the future, Quigley!
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Let it Be is terribly inferior compared to the Stones’ best album ever, when they were in their prime. And no way they were copying anything then.. Gimme Danger copied “what” exactly? Lols
I think you missed the point of the title, by the way. They were making fun of the Beatles’ saccharine style.
@Mike Barooshian the Rolling Stones were indeed the biggest blues coverband. We have a famous person, who met the biggest musicians ever, and even he told this.
I am about a decade younger than the guys in the Rolling Stones and just about all rockers from the sixties. Seeing them still rocking, makes me feel young. I saw a recent video of Ringo and he looked fifty, though he was eighty. Again I felt good that he was still rocking. So, as long as they can do so, I’m glad. Of course I won’t pay thousands to see them.
Bridges To Babylon is a fucking Masterpiece!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mick Taylor is criminally underrated, can't be a coincidence that their finest work was with him in the band, shame there wasn't a bit more equity in the songwriting credits. It's a harsh assessment, close your eyes and they still sound more or less the same now as they did over the last 25 years. There's something comforting about the fact that they never stop.
His era is my favorite. It's sad he left because he brought a sense of fun to the band. Seeing him in the video for "It's Only Rock and Roll" makes you think he's having a blast.
Yes the MT era was the best. He wasn't getting the recognition, respect or possible royalties he deserved and the Stone's sound suffered because of it. Hey Ronnie's great but he's not in the same league as Mick Taylor.
Mick Taylor and Jimmy Miller seem to have been the necessary ingredients.
@Mike Barooshian Yes, I read that in the last few years. I don't really don't mind bands that keep touring if they're doing it for the right reasons. The Stones don't even pretend they care about music at all. Seems like a bunch of guys that just happen to play instruments and The Stones is their grift. They're almost like performers in a Broadway Show about an aging rock band.
@Mike Barooshian I'm pretty sure they're done now.
I saw the stones on their sixty tour just few weeks ago. It was my first time seeing them live. Im 19 years old and I gotta say Im happy that they are still touring. Otherwise I would have never had the chance to see them live.
And I think that their performance was suprisingly quite good. Sure, their energy isnt what it used to be (although jagger was quite energetic still) and keith soloing was pretty bad at times, but it still felt that they were emotionally present in the performance and not just routinely going through the numbers. And I saw that they clearly stil enjoyed themselves on stage. I thought that especially their rendition of Angie was still really emotional and touching.
Honky Tonk Woman...right on Michael...rises above the track itself!
Michael, i totally agree about the status of "Honky Tonk Women". I truly outstanding song!! There was some originality about some of the early Jagger/Richards singles (The Last Time, Satisfaction, Paint It Black etc.). But there are some gems outside of those big singles (Heart Of Stone, Under My Thumb, I Am Waiting etc).
Don’t forget Some Girls.
It’s the Strolling Bones. As a 14 year old I heard it first at their Still life Tour in 1982.
I've always found the concept of aging rockers trying to go on forever a bit odd. From the beginnings of the art form in the late 1940s through the grunge era in the 1990s, it was always a youth-oriented style of music that evolved and reinvented itself with each new generation. There is something jarring about having 80-year-olds hobble on stage and try to rock out like they did when they were in their 20s. Maybe a few can still do it, but most can't. At some point, it is time to retire. Rock may not have the mainstream popularity with the youth nowadays that it once did, but it is still out there, and there are numerous subgenres and underground scenes. Searching around in the depths of Bandcamp is fun; good music can be found there. I don't go to rock concerts because I can't handle being in chaotic, noisy crowds, but if I went to one today, I would want to check out a new, up-and-coming band in one of the underground scenes in my area. I wouldn't pay a fortune to see ancient legends who are well past their prime. I'll enjoy their recordings from when they were at their best.
That’s why I keep my ears open for such great new bands such as Greta Van Fleet! Are they perfect? No! But there’s promise there! Thanx, Heather!❤️
I agree so much. I gave up most of the music from the 60's and 70's by the 80's, and am always looking for new music. Rock music's been harder to find since the dawn of the century, but it is out there. I am still going to concerts in my late 60's, because the local SRO venues are nice about saving me a a seat at the edge of the chaotic crowds, and live music feeds my soul now as much as it did in 1970. And there seem to be a lot of up-and-coming artists who put on great shows but don't make great recordings, so I'd have skipped them if I hadn't hear them live.
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine have you heard of 3rd Secret? Members of Soundgarden, Nirvana and Pearl Jam. I love “Winter Solstice”..
Wow Heather, I couldn’t agree MORE. Look for the artists that haven’t “made it” yet - they’re out there and need support to keep the music alive. The last “big show” I saw was the last nail in the coffin of big shows for me. To spend the kind of money you have to put out for a major touring act these days, then sit in the middle of 20K other people trying in vain to actually see and hear the band… in this case, two women in front of me standing the whole time with phones held high taping the show. Apparently those of us behind them were expected to watch the show on their phones? Also next to us were a group who came in late, two of whom were obviously not having a fun night. Very entertaining to listen to a domestic argument competing with the band’s less bombastic moments. Nah. Not worth it anymore. I’d rather pay $20 to go see and HEAR an up and coming hungry artist, one who’s on top of their game and not yet phoning it in, putting everything they have into their gig in a 100 seat club somewhere. Generally, people who catch those shows are there for the music, not because the band is flavor of the month.
I would still pay to go see Jeff Beck. I still listen to music from 1650 on up. There is music that pulls it's weight in any genre of any age.
I saw the stones in May 1982 in the apollo theatre, Glasgow, Scotland, it's still one of my top 5 gigs ever. 6 weeks later I saw them, along with another 150,000 at roundhay park, Leeds, England, it's still one of my worst 5 gigs ever. What a difference a few weeks makes between indoors at a great venue and outdoors with no atmosphere.
Saw the Stones in 1989 when they were touring “Steel Wheels.” It’s was a great, great show at the L.A. Coliseum (preceded on stage by an underwhelming G’n’R). 1994 was good too. They should have retired 10 years ago, though. I also agree that the Taylor years were authoritative.
I saw GN'R when they opened for Aerosmith on the Permanent Vacation tour. They were exciting to see because they weren't so glam, but they didn't know how to work a stage yet. When they did learn, later they went overboard and Axl was running marathons on the various ramps and scaffolds around the new 3 piece horn section and 2 backup singers to make it on time to sing harmony with a keyboard player for one chorus.
@Mike Barooshian I don't follow them at all and think Mick is pretty ridiculous. What I don't understand is "how much money do you need, Mick?" At this stage in life, he must have enough to get by on until he passes away. Or is touring just his way of keeping fit? If that's the case, we could just watch Sweatin' To The Oldies and crank up some Stones.
@Mike Barooshian >> Hard to read, man. That was one sentence! Yeah, it was the best Stones show, that one in 1989. Did you notice all the extra security-the Stones were still not taking any chances after Altamont. (It was the first tour that they played “Sympathy For the Devil” on since then.)
@Mike Barooshian I have no problem with wealth, but it has to be enough at some point. He won't live long enough to spend the bulk of it. It will just go to whatever family he has and they'll never appreciate it or do anything positive with it. Look at Bono... the dude runs a fake charity called The One Campaign and has raised over a billion dollars. Know why it's REALLY called The One Campaign? It turns out Bono keeps 99% and gives 1% to charity. The dude is a massive fraud,
I was that show when In Living Color and G&R opened for the Stones. Axle Rose was in an exceptional bitchy mood that night!!!!
Hi Mike. Great video. The Stones are and always will be my favorite music act. I was also around during the debate of are you a Beatle fan or a Stones? I was a Stone Roller ever since I heard "Heart Of Stone." I also like the Beatles, but not as much as the Stones. The greatest rock and roll band? Everybody has their own choice. You like Bridges to Babylon as your favorite? I didn't care for it at all. Exile On Main Street is my favorite Stones album and my favorite album of all time. Different people, different choice. I do agree with you that they have been promising new music for years and have not delivered any. I also am of the opinion that everyone, be it musicians, athletes, entertainers, etc, should retire while they are still on top or close to it. The Stones should retire. I did see them live in 1975 and it was the best concert I ever seen, and that is not taking anything away from Led Zeppelin, Bob Seger, ZZ Top, Yes or any of the others I have seen. On my Mount Rockolympus the Rolling Stones are number one.
See, Morton! You and I are the two sides of the same coin! You like The Beatles, but love The Stones, where I Like the Stones and love The Beatles!
Sounds like two guys who know their music!😉❤️👌
Exile is the one I love, too. Sadly I never saw them live in the 70's. And yes, it's nice when people go out on top. I respect artists for -being- artists who can't stop creating and performing. But respecting their choice and enjoying their recent albums and shows are 2 different things.
@@alanogy Exile on Main Street had a great Lofi grungy sound but songs alone is no comparison to Sticky Fingers which was a home run from beginning to end. Moonlight Mile, can’t you hear me knocking, sway, brown sugar, bitch, every single one was a Homerun
@@michaelrochester48 Exactly how I felt in 1972 - I didn't even like Exile at the time. And you're right, Sticky Fingers is a perfect album. My taste just changed over 50 years. Or maybe I heard the home runs so many times I got tired of them. Like, Mozart's Jupiter Symphony, or Beethoven's Fifth - undeniably great, but when they're played at the symphony so often, to be educational or something, I almost never put them on the record or CD player.
Most albums the Stones released between 1968 and 1981 are top-of-the-shelf stuff🤘🏼 Sticky Fingers and Some Girls, in particular, should be framed and played in every household ! lol
Some Girls is fantastic.
Any true great band can do country. Zepp had Hotdog, the Stones had Far Away Eyes.👊🏾👍🏽
Such a shame Brian Jones passed away so early, really liked his bluesy influence. Some of the early work of Ron Wood stuff with the Faces and such was really great and I think he is an underappreciated guitar player. His "call and response" guitar work with Keith for me is some of the most exciting guitar work I know. I saw the "Stones in 2014 in Oslo, and the concert was amazing though already back then you could tell Keith wasn't 100 % anymore but still did the job. Totally amazing that Mick Jagger does what he does at age 79. Actually pretty impressive doing what he is doing at any age.
It was worth it to me to see Paul McCartney at his tour opener back in April, 2022 even at $500 as it was my only chance to be in the same room with him. His voice is obviously leaving him (I don't know if that can be remedied or not) but he put on a hell of a show - over 2 hours. To your point about aging legends and bloated ticket prices however, had I seen him before, I likely would've passed this time. It's a shame that there is simply no one anywhere near the caliber of these legends to take their place.
Now, this is what I'm talking about great show man reminds me of the old days we need to bring it. back man those days were so much fun
Thank you for your honesty. The last time we saw the Stones was their “A Bigger Bang” Tour in 2007.
'Bridges to Babylon' .. I thought I was the only one that liked that album
Well, there at least 2 of us, CAR!
"Some Girls" is a rock -n- roll masterpiece.
Hey Mike, great to hear the mention on your channel! Yup, you got it, was and still am totally grateful you talked me into seeing the Paul and Wings show. I've seen the Stones a couple times, and seeing as how it's basically the same show each time, that's good enough :-) Now Keith, that's different....with the Stones, twice on solo tours, with New Barbarians.....can always see him again, but haven't needed to see the Stones since '94....Lovin' your channel!! Cheers!
Legends. Also amazing to think of all the celebs who died in their 20s/30s whom Jagger has outlived
And Richards, it seems, will outlast cockroaches!
I saw them in 1982 and trust me they were not right 😂 still they were the best rock and roll band from 1970 until 1990. Their best single for me is It’s Only Rock and Roll but they have so many gems.
I am now a fan of this channel. That was an honest, call it for what it is, critique on the Stones. Great stuff. 👍
Hi Michael! Helene here. Hey….tell us what you REALLY think..ok? Don’t be so shy! 😜 I agree with everything you said. Lucky for me, my favorite “old geezer” can still bring it! You know who I mean…
Amen to that, Helene! and I’m ready to get back to him yet once again!😉❤️👌
Hi Mike. Although you haven’t seen any comments from me lately, it certainly doesn’t mean I haven’t been watching. I loved this rant AND especially its title. I wished I’d thought of that! Just brilliant…and accurate. Everything you state here…is exactly what I feel too. Your criticisms are constructive though….and respectful…as usual. You’ve got a great channel brewing here Mike. Many seem to not only agree with your commentary but enjoy it as well. Listening back to Stones music over the past few months, simply to familiarize myself with it all, I liked quite a lot of it. Though I still feel that there’s much hype of fanfare tacked to them. I never understood “what the frenzy was all about” with this band. People flocked to sell out the largest stadiums throughout the years to see em. All the while I’m happy to sit in my car, rip a butt and listen to Zeppelin….again. I don’t know what it is….I’m just fascinated with Zeppelin STILL. I just like their product better than what the Stones gave us. Naturally I’m a rhythm oriented guy. I learned that early on. I have good ear and a good sense of time. In fact in my now broken up band, at a given rehearsal working on a given song, if it were obviously dragging, I’d feel it but the others wouldn’t. I just stop play my bass, and they’d all look at me: “What…?” I’m like….you fkn guys….are you all deaf?” Sorry for digression. I’ll end it now with: Zeppeplin’s products simply appealed to me much more than the Stones’.
In 1965 I was seven years old and remember hearing the Stones for the first time on the AM radio through their songs, The Last Time, Satisfaction and Get Off My Cloud. I followed their career and the first album I recall holding in my hands was 1969's Let It Bleed. The weird looking cake (or whatever it was) hovering over the vinyl record sticks with me to this day. Frankly, my favorite song on that album was Midnight Rambler. I was eleven. Here I am at 64 years old and the Stones are still in the news. I suppose the Stones are the only band that I've grown up with most of my life. It's weird!
Always enjoy your videos, keep going from Victoria Canada ❤️✌️🙂
Hey Michael, greetings from Australia. I was never an avid Stones, but apart from Beggar's Banquet, the Mick Taylor era was for me when their star shone most brightly. He really brought some class to their sound which was immediately lost when he departed. In their prime they were a great rock n roll but certainly not the greatest. Now they are just a parody chasing the money. For me the greatest is Zep!
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Hey Michael, another great video. It seems to me that we are about the same age. Old Hippies !!! It appears that we love the same music and bands !! And the best part of this love, we grew up with these guys and girls!! Seems like yesterday I paid a double saw buck to see KISS, with BTO as an opener. Miss my Old Hippy days. Keep up the awesome work you are doing !!!
Music is only one's opinion of what they like, so it can't be right or wrong. I saw the Stones back in September 2021 and had a great time with 50,000 other people. As long as the audience leaves happy, the artist have done their job.
I guess if the artist feels his job is only to patronize his audience and never challenge it...
Ah Chris Hart. You caught Charlie Watts there?
Question if you never saw the Rolling Stones and they tour now should I pay to see them to say I've seen them or save my money since they aren't doing their best?
Love the Stones but why do people always compare them to 'The Beatles'? Is it just because they're very successful and British. I would compare them to 'The Doors', The Who, 'The Yardbirds' but never 'The Beatles'. I can understand why 'The Beatles' are compared to 'The Beachboys' sometimes.
Because they were the two most popular British bands in the 60s
Not that crazy about either band, but of the two I'll take the Stones definitely.
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No one buys a ticket to see the Stones, Paul, Bruce, Who or Eagles expecting to see a band in their prime, although the backing musicians are terrific. It's an icon show and a greatest hits show. Period. Remember, a ticket is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. And someone's willing to pay for it.
Just don't see how they can tour without Charlie,does not sound the same!
When the Stones came out with Live Licks. I was playing the CD in my car. I picked up a guy. He was in the car 5 mins and he said, who is this imitating the the Stones.
Look out folks, Michael’s back and on a tear!!! Ha!! This was great (and very insightful too, esp the corporate aspect of the Stones, which most likely stems from the super business-savvy Mick Jagger).
Even though the Mick Taylor-era is widely acknowledged as their artistic high-water mark (and I am so grateful that the one time I got to see the Stones live was on their 50th Anniversary tour where Taylor guested), my favorite era was with Brian Jones, arguably the greatest utility player in rock history.
You didn’t mention it here, so I am curious: did you ever see the Stones live? If so, what incarnation?
Absolutely great stuff here Michael. You’ve got me rockin’ (and laughing my ass off).
Being one of the oldest and longest surviving doesn't mean "greatest".
🤣😂😆 You had me laughing so hard, Michael. The Rolling Bones for sure.
Having grown up with the Strolling Bones and the Beatles, by 1970 I was well and truly over both. I've wondered why I fell out of love for them and the only answer I have is that the hype surrounding the two bands overwhelmed my enjoyment of their pure musicianship. Today, I can't play either, even considering their exceptional lyric writing and musical crafting. Notwithstanding the output of both bands, there are still some exceptional singles that stand out from the Stones and the Beatles. The ultimate test is whether I'd go out and purchase a whole album and to date, my collection is still devoid of both.
This critical selection in my music taste went beyond 1970 and I can only listen to certain parts of my favourite bands, including Pink Floyd, Deep Purple and Led Zep. We were very critical even about the catalog of music our fave bands produced. Back then, music was fan driven and if we didn't like an album that our bands released, we'd give it a ragging. Time did heal some of the criticism and I did get to enjoy releases I previously wrote off but for others I still can't revisit them for love nor money.
I remember as a teenager, we were very tribal about the music we enjoyed and the window from 1970 to 1975 was the apex of the battle ground for the most intense division and criticism (with the occasional crossover). By that stage, the Beatles and the Stones were left far behind. We were spoiled for choice in that era and even though I appreciate the hard work of so many bands, my taste was always very personal and critical.
Many times I wouldn't buy an album of my favourite band if it was mostly filler tracks. A few stinkers on the album would still encourage me to buy a release but not a whole side and the best bands could occasionally release whole sides of filler tracks. (I appreciate that this is a subjective thing but music is after all mostly subjective and a matter of personal taste)
The mystique and elaborate narrative that plagued my appreciation of the Stones and the Beatles cemented them in a particular time and I can't get them out of that in my mind. This does not in any way diminish the major contribution to rock music and engineering innovation that they made.
All their albums have good songs...i'm expecting their new album to be great........2022...
Congrats... you have one more folower! I've recently discover your channel and you have great ones!
I must disagree however on your opinion about Mick's voice. I think Mick have one of the greatest voices in rock n' roll: a powerful voice, with personality and a unique great sense of interpretation.
My apologies for my english since it is not my mother language.
They were one of my favorites, but when I saw them live in the early 80’s I felt they were embarrassing themselves. It was like watching a car accident; it’s scary but you can’t help but look. I never wanted to see them again after that.
Hi Mike. I gotta say Black and Blue is right at top of their best albums. What do you think?
Hi Michael I saw the Stones Long Beach, CA 1972 then again on the Bridges to Babylon tour in Portland in 1998.Both were great shows. Had tickets for San Diego just before Covid got serious and the show was cancelled. It's a toss up if I go again if they get close. Hard not to but also how do I want to remember them? Awesome show as usual brother.
I really wanted to see them on their Bridges to Babylon tour! I’m jealous! Yeah they are an act hard to pass up for sure!
I’m a Doors fan cuz of the unique sound by fusing, jazz, blues, classical, crooner styles, flamenco, etc… More importantly they were about the art they created rather than chasing the $. Jim had a visit from Mick Jagger in ‘68 to see how a real frontman sings & performs, @ the Hollywood Bowl. And that’s why I love ❤️ the Doors and have disdain for the $ chasing Stone$
You are correct, well said mate.
Find it was Jim Morrison who copied Micks stage performance during 1965 tour of the Stones.
71-74.. With Mick Taylor, their best .
Never thought I’d get to see the Stones. I’m 59, finally got tickets for the Atlanta shoe next month
I have been listening the Rolling Stones for most of my life The first album my sister brought home was Got Live if you want it , and then Between the Buttons and then in 1970 I got Ya`s Ya`s out album and heard Sam Cutler announcer call them the greatest rock n Roll band in the world , and for me anyway they have stayed very consistent , I all so like Bridges To Babylon and Voodoo Lounge . Somtimes I think I wished Mick Taylor stayed with them but at least he stayed as long as he did and they put out great albums with him.
I dig the Stones and the Beatles. Very different bands. Plenty of room on my turntable to love both.
I don’t mind bands touring past their prime. As long as fans are still showing up, more power to them.
Still once Mick and Keith die, the Rolling Stones is finished.
Ron Wood cant tour under their name with lineup changes as it is in name only at that point
I Wanna Be Your Man was not the first Rolling Stones single,their first single was a cover of Chuck Berry’s Come On
Is I Wanna Be Your Man their first original single?
@@Thomasmemoryscentral I Wanna Be Your Man was not a Rolling Stones original,it was written by Lennon-McCartney and the Beatles version is on With The Beatles
Kind of sounds similar to Van Halen's first hit being a cover of The Kinks You Really Got Me. Two great bands got covers for their start but they proved later on they could do plenty of great originals
@@Thomasmemoryscentral terrible comparison
@@Thomasmemoryscentral it was Come on by Chuck Berry
Bridges to Babalon??How about Some Girls and Tattoo You??Great stuff!
Bridges To Babylon? Ok. Wow. I’ll have to go back n’ listen to it again. Other than “Has Anyone Seen My Baby” and the great video, I remember nothing about it
They haven’t given us a proper new record since A Bigger Bang. Unacceptable. Kieth’s arthritis gets in the way and Woody’s carrying him. Mick is somehow ageless. More power to him
They should have called it a day after Charlie passed 🤷🏽♂️
I agree with you wholeheartedly re: the Mick Taylor era. I think I heard an interview with him where the rift between he and the other members came down to denying him writing credits.
They both played together and hug out and recorded together.
I've had a chance to see The Rolling Stones 5 times since 1989. After their 40th anniversary tour in 2000 I wouldn't see them again until 2021. They still put on a good show, although about 50 minutes into the set Kieth was clearly getting winded and seemed to hit a wall, I thought the rest of the guys were fine. And since they vocal style is not over the top Mick sounded great.
I've always been more of a Stones fan; although I have come to appreciate what The Beatles and Elvis Presley have done for music I have never been a huge fan of either. I did go see Ringo and the All-Stars on their second American tour, because of the back up band he assembled on that tour.
Did your 2021 show contain Charlie Watts?
10:05 "But Ron & Keith hobbling around on stage is not a visual delight." LOL
Exiles on Main Street my favorite.
In The Studio…No One Can Hear You Scream
The Beatles may have been a fairly good live band, but they threw a strop somewhere around 1965 because the screaming was too loud and they couldn’t hear themselves properly.
The Stones would have just bought bigger amps. Let’s face it, from the footage available, it’s clear that The Beatles weren’t anywhere near in the Stones league as a live band. The Stones were, probably even still are, the greatest live act in rock n’ roll.
Michael -- Again you are right on !
Thanx, 62!
Saw the Stones in 1992 at RFK stadium. I wish I was old enough to see them in 1969, after a 2 year hiatus of not touring. Those were the Stones I wished I could have seen. They were in their mid-twenties (except for Bill who was 33 at the time).
Reading through the comments, I have to wonder if those who are critical of the Stones have ever heard Beggars Banquet, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main Street. As the Beatles split up, the Stones took over the rock world. Those 4 albums, from 1968 to 1972, may be the best run of 4 albums in the history of rock n roll. As a big Stones fan, I don't get the blase attitude of many comments on this video.
Those Jimmy Miller period albums were definitely the best.
Having recently said after one of your videos that it was time for these old bands to hang it up I ran into a few younger people who go to many current shows and who recently had seen the Rolling Stones. They were blown away, had the time of their life, could not stop saying how amazing they were, the best they had seen....maybe they are not the band I remember from decades past and they were never my favorite band but even back then on some nights they would get it just right and if you asked me I just might have said they really were the world's greatest rock & roll band, it seems they were for them so I am reconsidering my opinion.
What is up with these super huge wealthy rockers like Springsteen and Paul McCartney charging us so damn much for concert tickets? Insane. They are already so super rich anyway. They should do a free tour or 2 before they retire.
I agree with you sir. I'm 65 and too old to go to concerts. And at 1000 dollars to see anybody play. I would rather go to bed early. When I first started going to concerts the ticket prices were 4 or 5 maybe 6 dollars and that was hard earned money. To see the same bands. Forget about it. How much filthy greed do you need? Thank you.
Roger Daltrey said it best 2 or 3 years ago about The Stones: they have the best front man in history bur the musicianship is not above garage band level. I agree and I grew up in the 60s and I am a true believer that the 60s are defined by The Beatles, The Stones and Dylan. All pop and rock music since stems from this triumvirate.
I’ve seen the stones twice in concert which was fun. I’ve lost love for the band after hearing Keith Richards say that Led Zeppelin’s name was “fitting” because there music never took off for him. And then the Stones blatant rip offs of the Beatles album covers and album names. They seem a bit arrogant
The stones got the music done
The reason people are still paying to see these old bands is because today's music sucks. You've said it yourself. I'm glad alot of these bands were still touring because I wasn't old enough to see them in their prime.
I remember going to a Stones show and leaving before the end. Really pissed by the bad circus. I think it was in the early 90's.
It has been Rolling Stones Inc. since the late 80s. They are addicted to the adrenaline of playing for large, appreciative crowds. Their true legacy is 1968-69 (which includes their writing Brown Sugar, Wild Horses and other songs later to appear on Sticky Fingers), followed by 1970-72. Their continuing to tour will hurt their legacy in coming decades.
They’re still a great touring and live band. It won’t hurt
What about Tattoo You that sounds like the Stones. Probably my gateway album to them.
PS what was so great about B Jones? His slide? the oboe? Keith was an inspired creative genius. Brian was a precocious "musician" who was too unfocussed to be intense.
Beatles or Stones? Stones for me but I like the Beatles too.
Now 45's cost 10/- (about a dollar in 1960's) and that was a week of collecting drink bottles at 6d each for 20 bottles collected. I'd be 12 in 1963 at school and 2/- allowance from mum and dad was a luxury. Thankfully saw The Beatles live in 1964 but one thing I regret is never thanking my father for even thinking about taking me let alone getting tickets.
OMG, Kevin! So you were the other guy going around town collecting Cke & Pepsi bottles to fund their listening vices! Superb!
I do not compare the Beatles with the stones, both bands have individuality, Beatles ( excellent albums , creativity, awesome harmony ) lasted for only 8 years, stones took to a dirty level and moved on, millions and millions love them, some of their lyrics are kind of chauvinistic, towards mocking women( which I am against) but it's only Rock n roll, millions of ladies still love them, I agree Darryl should be a full time member just like Woody ( who was salaried till 1992) at least in the staged band pics, I agree I can't stand the fact that the fans do some kind of gating who to be a member, Steve Jordan replaced Watts, just like Taylor replaced Brian, I agree it's too corporate just after Wyman left... I kind of agree with you ....but nowadays they are just like a Vegas band, it's their charisma and legacy that drives their fans, not the music, they play the same songs again and again...lost interest in their live after they became corporate, but they are always my favorite band, one notch up the Beatles....I agree without their backing band, the stones show would be a total disaster......
A co worker of mine called in sick. Manager asked. Why "stones are in town" he got docked pay. "but it's the stones!
Michael, they were my favorite band after the Beatles, but I totally agree with you on every point. Especially that they have sold out to the "corporation!"
No one ever complains about "old" blues musicians when they're sitting down or hunched over, and there are very few new artists I'm willing to support. As far as I'm concerned, I will continue to enjoy the older bands as long as they are able to play. However I do draw the line at excessive ticket prices.
I am Stones fan,always
Saw them in the early 80's... Underwhelmed 😎😎
Hola Michael !! Me gustan los Stones, una de mis bandas favoritas, junto con Zepp, Tull, Purple, Hendrix, Winter, y otras. Respeto a Beatles, muchos temas de ellos me gustan. Los Stones siguen haciendo lo que les gusta (envidiable) y la gente los quiere ver. Son un pedazo grande de la Historia del Rock. Y eso no es poca cosa. desde Buenos Aires, Argentina, un fan de los Stones de 67 años. Saludos !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The world's greatest pub band - that's quite a compliment
For me the last great Stones album was "Some Girls". Everything after that sounded pretty formulaic and uninspired. I turned my back on them after "Voodoo Lounge" so I've never even heard "Bridges to Babylon". I'm going to give it a listen based on your recommendation, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
I'll go as far as Tattoo You. Jimmy Miller period was the best.
Same. Saw them on the Voodoo Lounge tour in Australia. Massive disappointment. I described them as a Rolling Stones cover band. Haven't listened to any of their releases since.
@@mauharley They could have all died in a bizarre gardening accident in 1973 and nothing would have been too much lost .
Latest concert videos show that Ron Wood and Keith Richards aren't playing at times just strutting around. Talked to Stones fans who are musicians and they agree.
Never thought they were the “World’s Greatest Rock and Roll Band”! Their last good album was Sticky Fingers in 1971. As far as live, KISS blows them off the stage. Always did, always will!
There use to be an urban legend back in the day....
That if the Beatles farted in a tin cup eight miles deep in the woods, two days later, the Rolling Stones would follow suit
For me still one of my favourite bands. Saw them live in 94 and 97 and they in my opinion great.
As for the Brian Jones I think he is both underrated and overrated .
Saw couple of concerts on phone camera's and I was pleasantly surprised given some tours over years were a bit cabaret.
The set list is a little stale.
Yeah, songs I was hoping for their last U.S. tour they didn't do-but I see they're playing them currently in Europe. Still, they will always have a special place in my heart!
I like to think that the Stones don't need the money and are just enjoying being up there with the fans screaming for them. If it's otherwise, I don't want to know, and I've not really got a dog in this fight because a little of their music goes a long way for me. That said I acknowledge they have some great songs in their repertoire. My personal favorite is 'Paint It Black' -- full of anger and rage in the sound and lyrics. BTW, I just watched the live stream of Led Zeppelin's O2 concert which I'd only seen a couple of clips of and it was wonderful. The surviving Led Zeppelin members had this one last concert to show the fans who they are and say goodbye to the band as an entity. Tales of them trying to get a new singer aside, I felt it was a great way for a legendary band to come to an end. That's not the way the Stones are doing it. Maybe it's a community thing--it makes me think of online sites where people have been congregating and talking and when the site goes down, people are angry at having lost that connection.
Bridges to Babylon a great album . Voodoo Lounge was great tour , Today we don' do arena shows . We have found some local venues and festivals { Even these are low key } We keep folding camp shares ready to go .
The best Rolling Stones concert I ever attended was their "Steel Wheels" concert in the early 90's. I had 6 front row tickets in the Cotton Bowl. Face value was $54 each.
Now those were the days, Dan! Just think of what $54 would get you today! A sandwich, a beer, and some chips, with just enough left for a tip, and the parking meter!😉❤️👌🎤🎸✌️
Certainly been around a long time and made a few tons of money. I am more of a Beatles fan too. But love Satisfaction and a few other tunes.
Ian Stewart / Boogie with Stu .
Great vid. Was a Beatles fan until I heard "Exile On Main Street" which blew my mind. To this day "Exile" is my favorite album, which I still listen to and not only do I think it's the greatest Rock album of all time, it's the greatest Country album of all time(along with "Sticky Fingers"). The Stones out Country, Country. Or, the Stones gave Country "Bounce". As for 2022, I'm not spending $100 plus dollars to see any band. Last month I saw Samantha Fish for $30 and the show was fantastic. If you haven't seen her, check her out. She's got plenty of live vids on RUclips.
I agree. Samantha Fish can make her guitar stand up and howl. Her Band is as tight as they come
The Stones were my favorite country band. Dead Flowers, Wild Horses, Sweet Virginia.
I wouldn't pay $100. to see an Allman Brothers, Cream and the Jimi Hendrix Experience triple bill with all of the members resurrected.
Can't stand the beatles. Exile on Main Street is a phenomenal album.
Thankyou .
Well here's to longevity. The Stones will always own that category. And they'll always one of the greatest bands ever. But I couldn't help but laugh at the " Rolling Bones " caption. Thats clever Michael ! Some things do need to end.
At the Altamont Speedway Free Concert- 1969 - someone in the crowd, sadly, bowed out from this world - now - up on the stage - we see some performers approaching the "Departure Lounge" (but not through the actions of any "third party") - c'est la vie, you never can tell.... Chuck Berry....