Francisco Tavara hun? Wtf bro! U mad or what! Putting AMD on badly designed Cooling solution doesn’t make AMD bad ! The fact is Intel is able to consume 45w on Ultra books and 95w on Gaiming laptops ! 😑
@@rahuldogra Calm down man, haha, AMD's has a lot of fans I can see that, it's many times more affordable and it's good, but laptops with intel have better thermals and longevity. Just my opinion, you can differ, good luck.
@@vncube1 hi! I ordered it but it's comming in May... I did it through Amazon... If it comes early I will be able to tell you, but I think is the best option for 999. Yes, I've got the 90Wh version because I need good battery for university
I agree with you, red for gaming was outdated years ago. I wish companies would stop smearing red on products they list for gaming, not everyone has systems that are red and not everyone likes red.
There is no next year for intel brother☺️ they never can fathom the thought how much the majority consumers hate being stuck with the worlds top notch companies bullshit boring monotonous technology!!! Its time they stop being no 1!!! Amd is the future!!! This is the way!
OEMs are screwing the new Ryzen CPUs by producing shitty laptops with it, basically they are defaming the new Ryzen CPUs because it's so good and they don't want Intel to lose. So, we're still stuck at good laptops with stupid inefficient 14nm++++++++++++++++++++ intel CPUs
JastPer yeah man ! I needed an ultra book / laptop with proper usb and had to compromise with i7! And what put prime 95 on temps straight away 100c and throttling; HW info states max power 41w that too on 4/8 thread chip! And there i saw on youtbe AMD running 8 core at 3.5-3.6ghz at 52w ! 4/8 threads would run like at 60 % of 52w
Great video as always.. I hope next video will be Dell g5 with ryzen 4800H and RX5600M... It will be interesting since the RX5600M is newest graphic card from AMD and compare it with GTX1660Ti or even RTX2060..thanks :)
not sure high clocks are not achievable in real world and intel is getting better clock because of better cooling and hence higher power ! If AMD gets the same thing they may outperform intel ! All AMD cpus I’ve seen seen to run close to 90-91c which is too close to the thermal limits ! Where as intel can run upto 100c and with cooling run at 95c ! Despite AMD being more effecient yet manufactures can’t keep temps under control!
Awesome review, u cover the important stuff, I was thinking about getting this laptop as it was about $200 less than the asus a15, but after your review I’m not too excited about it.
Techtesters , I ended up going with this laptop, a black Friday sale for the same price as the MSI GF65, but with 16 gigs of RAM and RTX 270, I saw your review on the sister computer ( 240 screen) thanks, ASUS ROG Strix Hero III G531GW XB74 - 15.6" - Core i7 9750H - 16 GB RAM - 512 GB SSD RTX 270. Thanks so much for your help I think at $800 US it’s definitely a better buy than the GF65.
Loving your reviews Nada 👍 This one finally makes me want to sell my PC and get a mobile Glaptop. But when I think about upgrading GPU every 2 years kind of hard choice.
Honestly, I have the most recent GF75, with the 10th gen i7, gtx 1650, 1to NVMe SSD, 32Go ram, and it's an amazing laptop all around... I understand what you all say but the average user won't see the difference !
I think if the bravo 15 with bigger battery would be almost as good as it gets until amd releases a better gpu. I'd prefer an amd gpu for my laptop but they're just not as good as the nvidia based offerings but next year that might change, or not.. atleast the new amd gpu's are not outright horrible by any means :)
Just picked this one up last week to upgrade from my HP Pavilion Laptop that I bought back in 2009. Primary usage is for making videos as suppose for gaming. Was swayed to go to this one over the Asus Tuf A17 because it has a better graphics card.
@@DABLACKESTJEW has been great for me but temper that I've replaced a 11 year old laptop with only 4GB of RAM. What used to take me hours to render a video now takes minutes. Haven't gamed on it so I don't have an opinion on that.
These new 120/144hz cheap display are very VERY bad. Previous 144hz had a much better quality. I think even the previous cheaper 120hz monitors from older laptops were better in colours than these new cheap screens, weren't they? Also, the build quality of this MSI was quite bad. MSI is getting a bad reputation with their bad build quality, even in the design and colour theme seems like they didn't put any effort to see today's trends. And I do agree with you with good plastic better than bad metal. My ROG Strix II is super sturdy despite the base being plastic, touch pad is sturdy too with independent buttons, screen quality much nicer. It's also a more expensive laptop though. But I think the Asus ROG Strix G and Zephyrus G (cheap models) have better built than this MSI, I mean, even the cheapest TUF has better quality. Thanks for the amazing and honest review!
Plastic is stronger than metal for a couple years, but then plastic gets brittle and metal does not. Case in point, my Acer Nitro 5 top that I've had to reinforce near the hinges as the plastic was coming apart, and which already cost me 1 screen
They aren't though because if you want a 2070 or any of the new RTX super mobile chips, they're only available with intel. It sucks, but it's the way it is.
@@andressuarez3079 Not really you are talking about multi core performance not single performance. In the single-threaded Cinebench R15 test, the Core i9-10900K scores 222 points, while the 3950X scores 213, which is a 4.22% lead for the new Intel flagship over AMD's. The i9-9900K is 2.81% faster than the 3950X in the same test. An the 3950X has 16 cores and 32 threads, while the 10900X is a 10 core 20 thread CPU. So its like comparing a Bugatti to a little bit suped up Mustang. When they are on the same cores and threads Intel usually beats out AMD. People tend to forget that due to fanboyism . Lets not forget AMD was dominated for almost a decade by Intel, so this close to one year lead by AMD is nothing compared to what Intel did to AMD.
If you recommend (and obviously sensible) to use headphones on a gaming laptop then you should review the sound quality via the sound card DAC. Some sound card DACs are cheap and nasty and make headphone use uncomfortable and tiring because of the poor quality sound.
Thank you for the good review. The new MSI GP65 Leopard was just released with Core i7-10750 and RTX 2070 for 1500 USD +tax and shipping. Do you recommend?
I have this MSI laptop with the i7 9750H and a Rtx 2060, it runs ingame quite hot (80-85°) but the fans are so loud and constantly running on 5000rpm and I don't know if Long gaming sessions is a good thing. Do fans break after a long time?
When you review laptops please include VIDEO EDITING, RENDERING ETC specially on ADOBE PREMIERE PRO and DA VINCI RESOLVE.. Some of your viewers wanted only to see the performance of this laptop on VIDEO EDITING! I'm one of that.. Please next time..
I am working on a good way to add a video edit workflow into the benchmarks. Do keep in mind that the experience varies depending on what you do in each app, it's more CPU or GPU heavy depending on what you do. So one (or even three) tests might not even tell the whole story. For most core editting tasks, you can simply look at the CPU benchmarks already there, the scaling is very similar.
I’ve heard several complaints about the A15 having a very poor thermal design and the cpu consistently stays at 90 or above under load. Does the same hold true for you as well?
@O B L I V I O U S i7-10750h, 16gb ram, 512gb nvme m.2 ssd, rtx 2070 (115w), 100% sRGB 144hz screen, steelseries individually lit rgb keyboard and it has a 2.5” slot for more storage. Thermals are also really good.
Why do all the new notebooks still sit at 1300€, if nvidia dropped the prices by one step? A Y540 has the same price and performance, despite being from last year.
That fern on your Cooler Master Cosmos C700 tower is a bad idea if you are going to put water into it... ferns need water, and humidity just saying... MSI laptops have: Really nice cooling, but bad fan noise, pitch is too high like a wasp buff, very annoying and a deal breaker for me. 6 cores top, which is, as you said (and if I'm honest I'm glad you said it coz someone had to say it) mediocre for 2020 even with intel's architecture. (Still) room for HDD which are pretty much obsolete these days for people that doesnt need 20Tb storage, against ssd and nvme m.2 even at its worse pcie gen 3 even. Low RAM memory at its max set up for editing, compiling, etc, so performace average Mid range RTX 2060 with 6Gb dedicated ddr5 which doesn't impress me considering the 11 / 16 / 24 Gb Nviada RTX Max-Q & Quadro ones. So all in all, apart from all that trendy design (that I hate, sorry :/) for kids with lots of edges and lights they give you pretty much a crappy computer. And the alternative is spend 4 grand which would annoy me if I liked any of the 60 designs I've checked. But they review was quite accurate. :) Good video.
So what Laptop would you recommend if a pleasant fan noise is an extremely important trait for you? Lets say up to 1200€ (better about 1k). I just recently bought a Legion Y540 but the high pitched fan noise in idle/video steaming use is driving me nuts, when the fans are on full blast it gets a little bit better tho. It's not all about the "loudness" (like in decibels) which is my problem but the type of that sound.
@@SphexGamingInc It's true, the high pitch of the fan noise is the probem. Other laptops have also high speed but the fan pitch is lower. What laptop? Depends on your needs. For gaming I would say most fan noises are annoying but still some are better than others (lower pitch) For work check HP new Omen 15, its very decent, and also Dell's XPS series seem nice but still you will have to listen to the fan pitch for yourself coz I don't how irritable you get with fan noises (I do too). Other option is to ask an IT guy if you can modify your actual computer fan speed by modifying it through the BIOS settings (or maybe u know how to do it yourself). That is what I would do in the first place so as not to have to buy another laptop. Best of luck. Regards.
Asus TUF is only GTX 1650 but MSU is GTX 1660 ------------------------------------------which is MSI gives 75% more grapic perfomence-------------------
Sadly I am not impressed by the assembly. I've disassembled a few of these laptops for reparation. And saw a lot of negligence in assembly(thermal paste application as one example). Also MSI uses the cheapest available SSD's. (WD, chips from sandisk). But overall it's ok teenage laptop.
personally running heaven benchmark ultra/tesselation max/8x AA/1080p and aida64 stress test at the same time i get gpu temps of around 67-72C and cpu temps of around 60-72C this is with cooler boost though
Should I go for this? It seems like it might have cooling issues and the build quality is meh. And can the red backlighting be turned off? I bought a helios 300 with i5-9300h and gtx 1660ti for 1000 and now I feel like I'm being ripped off, but the build quality seems better. I don't play any modern games though, maybe gta 5.
this one gets really hot as well. cpu temps are just ridiculous. i picked this pc up today and the temps are worrying me especially on AAA titles. i’m not sure if gaming with these kind of temps very long is a good idea or not
@@sippin1375 You need to undervolt the cpu, change the thermal paste and get a cooling pad in order to get good temps on this laptop. Keeping it on really high temps all the time is really bad
Ryzen 5000 not 4000. And I doubt intel will ever get to 10nm. They'll just jump from 14nm to 7nm. Intel 11th gen is where it'll get interesting with their truly new architecture
i found if i properly clean my laptop or desktop case (they both are fingerprint magnets) and use a nano spray wax i use for my car, fingerprints come off easier
@@TechTesters from what I've seen you can't really find anything, even used for less than 800-899. Best I can find is a 1660ti with a 10th gen Intel. I only need the laptop to use with external monitor, kb, mouse. Coming from a GTX 1070 and rx580 8gb anything would be an upgrade as I have to be on mobile platform now due to power demand. Can you suggest anything else that might fit my needs?
I just started my new job and I'm looking to replace my old gaming laptop. It seems like a lot of the current laptops have problems and once you go above about $1200 you get a clown fiesta. Are we in the middle of new models coming out? Should I be waiting a bit even though I'm really due for an upgrade?
Sethyboy0 well it depends on what you’re looking for, I would say it’s better off to wait till more new amd cpu laptops reach the market. Then prices would be more competitive, that’s when u should make your decision
Is the display's brightness and color better or worse than the TUF A15 which is around 270nits and 66% sRGB? I'm speaking more from the point of user experience since I mostly want it for university use but the heavily criticized A15 display has me thinking (although it has a superior battery, which is very important to me).
Its the same class of panel. Any criticism the a15 panel got applies here too. And on most gaming laptops in this class tbh (unfortunately) If you really want a better panel, look at the 240hz g15.
Alpha 15 had a really good budget 144Hz display. But that CPU isn't that great considering newer options. I haven't seen a new model yet with a top notch display :(
Is it still possible to replace the solder CPU, I have the I5 processor version but if I would have dished out more money then I wouldn't have to i7 version. I know exactly what kind of versions they are, but is it still possible to do this.
I mean the comparison is not quite fair for Intel, if I'm honest. 6 cores CPU vs 8 cores CPU? The better comparison is i7-10875h vs and 4000, 8 cores vs 8 cores
It's fair because the laptops are in the same priceclass. The cheapest 10875h options I see here are closer to 2k eur. Maybe that'll change over time, but for now?
Thank you AMD for freeing us from Intel's monopoly
Yea, AMD is benefactor to humankind
But manufacturers still screwing with us !
I needed inspirons and XPS with AMDs ! 😐
Intel still has the front on laptops. Better thermals.
Francisco Tavara hun? Wtf bro! U mad or what! Putting AMD on badly designed Cooling solution doesn’t make AMD bad !
The fact is Intel is able to consume 45w on Ultra books and 95w on Gaiming laptops ! 😑
@@rahuldogra Calm down man, haha, AMD's has a lot of fans I can see that, it's many times more affordable and it's good, but laptops with intel have better thermals and longevity. Just my opinion, you can differ, good luck.
Thank you for this. I have been considering between the asus and msi for a while and been looking at both. Seems to be quite a standard choice :)
Good job! Loving your videos, I got an a15 with a 1660ti based on your review!
Did you get the 90Wh version? How's the screen for gaming and other stuff? Temps? I don't know if I want the 1660Ti MQ G14 or 1660Ti A15!
How is the screen? Are you able to get over how shitty the display is?
@@vncube1 hi! I ordered it but it's comming in May... I did it through Amazon... If it comes early I will be able to tell you, but I think is the best option for 999.
Yes, I've got the 90Wh version because I need good battery for university
@@GodExplained please update us regarding the screen quality.😄
@@pinoyozzyworld I finally got a g14!! Sorry
Thank you so much for these great detailed information, you're the best laptops reviewers yet.
You're welcome, and thank you!
Nice review as always!!
You're accent and voice so good
I agree with you, red for gaming was outdated years ago. I wish companies would stop smearing red on products they list for gaming, not everyone has systems that are red and not everyone likes red.
Red makes them faster! FACT...
It does look like MSI uses this same chassis for the MSI Bravo 15.
I'm more into can Intel keep up with the PRICING of AMD? After all these quarantine it's all about spending smart now
u are so missing the point
@@AaaaBbbb-iq6cz what do you got if I may ask ?
@@DentSideDee71 intel now needs to keep up with both performance and pricing,
"you cannot love a touchpad"
Apple: Hold my beer
YES, I’ll try to get this now after watching this because your video was very in-depth! :)
btw i found it for $979 at Walmart in USA
I got mine for 699 at walmart on sale
800 something for me in 🇺🇸
Red Back lighting is a huge turn off for me
More light = more fps
Forget the red, look at those hiiiiideous fonts.
Each to their own. It looks pretty dope in a lecture hall or classroom
@@melako85 You get it
@@jironiedeveld5344 logic 😂🙌🏽
Good luck in the next year, Intel 😊
There is no next year for intel brother☺️ they never can fathom the thought how much the majority consumers hate being stuck with the worlds top notch companies bullshit boring monotonous technology!!! Its time they stop being no 1!!! Amd is the future!!! This is the way!
OEMs are screwing the new Ryzen CPUs by producing shitty laptops with it, basically they are defaming the new Ryzen CPUs because it's so good and they don't want Intel to lose. So, we're still stuck at good laptops with stupid inefficient 14nm++++++++++++++++++++ intel CPUs
JastPer yeah man ! I needed an ultra book / laptop with proper usb and had to compromise with i7!
And what put prime 95 on temps straight away 100c and throttling; HW info states max power 41w that too on 4/8 thread chip!
And there i saw on youtbe AMD running 8 core at 3.5-3.6ghz at 52w !
4/8 threads would run like at 60 % of 52w
Wat does intel mean
@@icecream5112 maybe INTegrated ELectronics
I really like the quality of your videos what camera are you using? it's amazing
Really informative video. Keep up the good work
Thank you! 😊
Great video as always.. I hope next video will be Dell g5 with ryzen 4800H and RX5600M... It will be interesting since the RX5600M is newest graphic card from AMD and compare it with GTX1660Ti or even RTX2060..thanks :)
there is already some test with 5600m its about 10-15% faster then 2060 max q
I bought mine friday it cool
I watched this video so many times before purchasing.
Didn't watch yet but spoiler alert amd outperformed intel
amd didn't.. what i see is, that intel is letting some room for amd to get them better place on market. (gamers want higher speeds)
@@autechren bro, also, battery life
@@autechren dude i don't think a company will make a big loss in market share and money on purpose
@@autechren
ryzen HS series: *THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM YET*
not sure high clocks are not achievable in real world and intel is getting better clock because of better cooling and hence higher power ! If AMD gets the same thing they may outperform intel !
All AMD cpus I’ve seen seen to run close to 90-91c which is too close to the thermal limits ! Where as intel can run upto 100c and with cooling run at 95c !
Despite AMD being more effecient yet manufactures can’t keep temps under control!
Awesome review, u cover the important stuff, I was thinking about getting this laptop as it was about $200 less than the asus a15, but after your review I’m not too excited about it.
Thanks! And for 200$ Less? I'd say it's a very fair deal. It's tough though, no affordable laptop is without some flaws.
Techtesters , I ended up going with this laptop, a black Friday sale for the same price as the MSI GF65, but with 16 gigs of RAM and RTX 270, I saw your review on the sister computer ( 240 screen) thanks, ASUS ROG Strix Hero III G531GW XB74 - 15.6" - Core i7 9750H - 16 GB RAM - 512 GB SSD RTX 270. Thanks so much for your help I think at $800 US it’s definitely a better buy than the GF65.
Loving your reviews Nada 👍
This one finally makes me want to sell my PC and get a mobile Glaptop. But when I think about upgrading GPU every 2 years kind of hard choice.
i kept mine, one goes ill always have my backup well waiting to repair :)
Just picked this up for $600 new!
Dang that’s good pricing
Nice Review,
Now, the actual important question - What's the max CPU/GPU TDP in Turbo mode ?
the A15 with the 1660ti and a 4800h which outperforms the 10750h for 1000, this model is priced at 1300, no brainer
ikr, there are just no flawless laptop with AMD yet. those are the reasons why i had to buy the 1200$ msi at the end
Honestly, I have the most recent GF75, with the 10th gen i7, gtx 1650, 1to NVMe SSD, 32Go ram, and it's an amazing laptop all around... I understand what you all say but the average user won't see the difference !
Yep, it's still a nice laptop if the price is right of course!
Thanks for the informative video. Is this laptop good for Aftereffects and 3D works. Or do you suggest Ryzen 7 Laptop. Thank you!
Not many AMD CPU paired with AMD GPU laptops. Give us more higher premium models @Msi & Asus
I think if the bravo 15 with bigger battery would be almost as good as it gets until amd releases a better gpu.
I'd prefer an amd gpu for my laptop but they're just not as good as the nvidia based offerings but next year that might change, or not.. atleast the new amd gpu's are not outright horrible by any means :)
@@ole-martinbroz8590 well huawei would. I think they'd be on 'gpu market'
Just picked this one up last week to upgrade from my HP Pavilion Laptop that I bought back in 2009. Primary usage is for making videos as suppose for gaming. Was swayed to go to this one over the Asus Tuf A17 because it has a better graphics card.
Did it turn out well? Is it good? I’m about to buy it for editing mainly. Also gaming.
@@DABLACKESTJEW has been great for me but temper that I've replaced a 11 year old laptop with only 4GB of RAM. What used to take me hours to render a video now takes minutes. Haven't gamed on it so I don't have an opinion on that.
Guys hwo many people are there in your team
Lovely work !!!
These new 120/144hz cheap display are very VERY bad. Previous 144hz had a much better quality. I think even the previous cheaper 120hz monitors from older laptops were better in colours than these new cheap screens, weren't they?
Also, the build quality of this MSI was quite bad. MSI is getting a bad reputation with their bad build quality, even in the design and colour theme seems like they didn't put any effort to see today's trends.
And I do agree with you with good plastic better than bad metal. My ROG Strix II is super sturdy despite the base being plastic, touch pad is sturdy too with independent buttons, screen quality much nicer. It's also a more expensive laptop though. But I think the Asus ROG Strix G and Zephyrus G (cheap models) have better built than this MSI, I mean, even the cheapest TUF has better quality.
Thanks for the amazing and honest review!
Celmad don’t compare different price points it’s not fair to the cheaper ones. This is significantly cheaper than your ASU’s rog strix
MSI GS75 (that is another price sector) is an exellent laptop
There are two of these machines that look almost alike and the other is really crappy but this one is ok.
By chance are u doing a review on the 2020 MSI GS75 stealth ?
Very nice in deed! Hope they have a RTX instead of GTX. Logical NVIDIA is pushing hard for RTX.
Plastic is stronger than metal for a couple years, but then plastic gets brittle and metal does not.
Case in point, my Acer Nitro 5 top that I've had to reinforce near the hinges as the plastic was coming apart, and which already cost me 1 screen
can you review the new RTX 2070 super max-q cards with their new features when you get the chance?
WHAT A BEAST!
Awesome video,keep it up👍
Great one, have you review new lenovo laptops?
the "NEW" intel processors are already dead on arrival
They where born dead
@@jesus2621 confused screaming
They aren't though because if you want a 2070 or any of the new RTX super mobile chips, they're only available with intel. It sucks, but it's the way it is.
Intel's 10900k is already 49% lower on performance than AMD 3950X so, yes, I agree.
@@andressuarez3079 Not really you are talking about multi core performance not single performance. In the single-threaded Cinebench R15 test, the Core i9-10900K scores 222 points, while the 3950X scores 213, which is a 4.22% lead for the new Intel flagship over AMD's. The i9-9900K is 2.81% faster than the 3950X in the same test. An the 3950X has 16 cores and 32 threads, while the 10900X is a 10 core 20 thread CPU. So its like comparing a Bugatti to a little bit suped up Mustang. When they are on the same cores and threads Intel usually beats out AMD. People tend to forget that due to fanboyism . Lets not forget AMD was dominated for almost a decade by Intel, so this close to one year lead by AMD is nothing compared to what Intel did to AMD.
what is you opinion for the ultimate content creation laptop? upcoming or currently on the market?
this is a greate review !! thanks a lot
About the battery... It doesn't actually last for 5 hours Netflix. More like 2
Great video. Keep up the good work.
Just found your channel in my recommended feed. Glad I did. Great content! BTW, is grey one of your favorite colors? :)
I have the same laptop but the battery does not last that long .. about an hour and half to two hours of battery life in normal usage
ordered mine yesterday, i’m so exited
Same
Amd is crushing intel since ryzen 1000 series come out. I use ryzen too but let's hope amd doesn't become new intel.
i own the GF65 and i keep it in ECO mode and get really good temps
How's the screen ,is it responsive ?
yep its really responsive i got really lucky and got the 144Hz screen
@@kromstm2z5 oh thank you
And one more question how many fps do u get in your games and what temperatures ?
How is your laptop today sir
Good analysis
Thanks!
If you recommend (and obviously sensible) to use headphones on a gaming laptop then you should review the sound quality via the sound card DAC. Some sound card DACs are cheap and nasty and make headphone use uncomfortable and tiring because of the poor quality sound.
Thank you for the good review. The new MSI GP65 Leopard was just released with Core i7-10750 and RTX 2070 for 1500 USD +tax and shipping. Do you recommend?
Is it good for multitasking gaming etc??
Thx for the detailed review
My pleasure :)
I have this MSI laptop with the i7 9750H and a Rtx 2060, it runs ingame quite hot (80-85°) but the fans are so loud and constantly running on 5000rpm and I don't know if Long gaming sessions is a good thing. Do fans break after a long time?
Bro how is your laptop now?
Ma'am can i play modern games and upcoming games can this laptop handle gaming and streaming..... Is it good for editing
I got one i love it i had it about 10 days
When you review laptops please include VIDEO EDITING, RENDERING ETC specially on ADOBE PREMIERE PRO and DA VINCI RESOLVE..
Some of your viewers wanted only to see the performance of this laptop on VIDEO EDITING!
I'm one of that.. Please next time..
I am working on a good way to add a video edit workflow into the benchmarks. Do keep in mind that the experience varies depending on what you do in each app, it's more CPU or GPU heavy depending on what you do. So one (or even three) tests might not even tell the whole story. For most core editting tasks, you can simply look at the CPU benchmarks already there, the scaling is very similar.
MSI GF75 THIN VS GF 63 which one is better AND ALSO ASUS ROG STRIX G ?
a third USB-A port on the left side would have been too much "expensive", huh MSI? smh
Yeah I am going to buy this computer 2 days from now and it kills me to know I will have to plug my mouse and other shit on that space
I’ve heard several complaints about the A15 having a very poor thermal design and the cpu consistently stays at 90 or above under load. Does the same hold true for you as well?
@O B L I V I O U S Yeah this was back when I was laptop shopping. Bought the GP75 10SFK. Best laptop in that price range by far.
@O B L I V I O U S i7-10750h, 16gb ram, 512gb nvme m.2 ssd, rtx 2070 (115w), 100% sRGB 144hz screen, steelseries individually lit rgb keyboard and it has a 2.5” slot for more storage. Thermals are also really good.
Why do all the new notebooks still sit at 1300€, if nvidia dropped the prices by one step?
A Y540 has the same price and performance, despite being from last year.
That fern on your Cooler Master Cosmos C700 tower is a bad idea if you are going to put water into it... ferns need water, and humidity just saying...
MSI laptops have:
Really nice cooling, but bad fan noise, pitch is too high like a wasp buff, very annoying and a deal breaker for me.
6 cores top, which is, as you said (and if I'm honest I'm glad you said it coz someone had to say it) mediocre for 2020 even with intel's architecture.
(Still) room for HDD which are pretty much obsolete these days for people that doesnt need 20Tb storage, against ssd and nvme m.2 even at its worse pcie gen 3 even.
Low RAM memory at its max set up for editing, compiling, etc, so performace average
Mid range RTX 2060 with 6Gb dedicated ddr5 which doesn't impress me considering the 11 / 16 / 24 Gb Nviada RTX Max-Q & Quadro ones.
So all in all, apart from all that trendy design (that I hate, sorry :/) for kids with lots of edges and lights they give you pretty much a crappy computer. And the alternative is spend 4 grand which would annoy me if I liked any of the 60 designs I've checked.
But they review was quite accurate. :) Good video.
So what Laptop would you recommend if a pleasant fan noise is an extremely important trait for you? Lets say up to 1200€ (better about 1k). I just recently bought a Legion Y540 but the high pitched fan noise in idle/video steaming use is driving me nuts, when the fans are on full blast it gets a little bit better tho. It's not all about the "loudness" (like in decibels) which is my problem but the type of that sound.
@@SphexGamingInc It's true, the high pitch of the fan noise is the probem. Other laptops have also high speed but the fan pitch is lower.
What laptop? Depends on your needs. For gaming I would say most fan noises are annoying but still some are better than others (lower pitch)
For work check HP new Omen 15, its very decent, and also Dell's XPS series seem nice but still you will have to listen to the fan pitch for yourself coz I don't how irritable you get with fan noises (I do too).
Other option is to ask an IT guy if you can modify your actual computer fan speed by modifying it through the BIOS settings (or maybe u know how to do it yourself). That is what I would do in the first place so as not to have to buy another laptop.
Best of luck.
Regards.
Asus TUF is only GTX 1650
but MSU is GTX 1660
------------------------------------------which is MSI gives 75% more grapic perfomence-------------------
*GTX
Great review !
Thank you!
Sadly I am not impressed by the assembly. I've disassembled a few of these laptops for reparation. And saw a lot of negligence in assembly(thermal paste application as one example). Also MSI uses the cheapest available SSD's. (WD, chips from sandisk). But overall it's ok teenage laptop.
Teenage laptop 🤣🤣
so msi just made a slightly improved acer nitro 5?
not to mention the 14nm+++++
Not to mention the 14nm++++++++++×÷×÷--+×÷-+
Nice review😁perfect
the base model of this laptop will be a good buy
surprisingly good review
Thank you.
How does the screen compare to the A15?
personally running heaven benchmark ultra/tesselation max/8x AA/1080p and aida64 stress test at the same time i get gpu temps of around 67-72C and cpu temps of around 60-72C this is with cooler boost though
What profile? :)
Should I go for this? It seems like it might have cooling issues and the build quality is meh. And can the red backlighting be turned off? I bought a helios 300 with i5-9300h and gtx 1660ti for 1000 and now I feel like I'm being ripped off, but the build quality seems better. I don't play any modern games though, maybe gta 5.
It all depends on what it costs, and what alternatives you have. But if you're happy with your GTX 1660 Ti laptop, why upgrade now? :)
Please make a review about the Asus Zephyrus G14
Depends on if/when I can get one :(
I love your review, but at the end you basically recommended the asus over this one but I had heard that the asus had some thermal issues overheating.
this one gets really hot as well. cpu temps are just ridiculous. i picked this pc up today and the temps are worrying me especially on AAA titles. i’m not sure if gaming with these kind of temps very long is a good idea or not
@@sippin1375 You need to undervolt the cpu, change the thermal paste and get a cooling pad in order to get good temps on this laptop. Keeping it on really high temps all the time is really bad
Amd, is going 5nm for its next gen... intel is still stuck on 14nm and trying to get to 10nm
Ryzen 5000 not 4000. And I doubt intel will ever get to 10nm. They'll just jump from 14nm to 7nm. Intel 11th gen is where it'll get interesting with their truly new architecture
Very good review
you are right this MSI laptop is out of the competition, the clear winner is Asus TUF
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I heard that the place for resting hands will produce electric shock. Is it true?
i found if i properly clean my laptop or desktop case (they both are fingerprint magnets) and use a nano spray wax i use for my car, fingerprints come off easier
how does this laptop hold up by today's standards for gaming at the $899 retail price? Is there a better option with a budget around 700-800?
It all depends on your alternatives really. It sounds OK to me, this will still play all/most games really well.
@@TechTesters from what I've seen you can't really find anything, even used for less than 800-899. Best I can find is a 1660ti with a 10th gen Intel. I only need the laptop to use with external monitor, kb, mouse. Coming from a GTX 1070 and rx580 8gb anything would be an upgrade as I have to be on mobile platform now due to power demand. Can you suggest anything else that might fit my needs?
I just started my new job and I'm looking to replace my old gaming laptop. It seems like a lot of the current laptops have problems and once you go above about $1200 you get a clown fiesta. Are we in the middle of new models coming out? Should I be waiting a bit even though I'm really due for an upgrade?
Sethyboy0 well it depends on what you’re looking for, I would say it’s better off to wait till more new amd cpu laptops reach the market. Then prices would be more competitive, that’s when u should make your decision
Is this good for school as well?
One thing I learned from this video is damn the TUF A15 is looking niiiiice
And they have issues about material quality
@@KU-sx4um did you watch this video until end? GF65 has almost same display panel quality with A15
Damn I hate the red keyboard. Just give it a white backlight!
Where to buy this?
10/10 video
Is the display's brightness and color better or worse than the TUF A15 which is around 270nits and 66% sRGB? I'm speaking more from the point of user experience since I mostly want it for university use but the heavily criticized A15 display has me thinking (although it has a superior battery, which is very important to me).
Its the same class of panel. Any criticism the a15 panel got applies here too. And on most gaming laptops in this class tbh (unfortunately)
If you really want a better panel, look at the 240hz g15.
Any reccomendation for budget gaming laptop that has a good srgb / color gamut? Mainly for design (photoshop, ilustrator, etc). Thanksss
Alpha 15 had a really good budget 144Hz display. But that CPU isn't that great considering newer options. I haven't seen a new model yet with a top notch display :(
@@TechTesters thanks a lot !
Even Dell G3 using a 100% srgb 144hz panel. After using nearly 100% Adobe RGB gamut oled phones and tablets ,there is difference and sadness
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Good for WoW in ultra settings? The only game i play.
Did you get sunburnt? You look a little red. I bet its those crazy lamps!
She should have worn some thermal paste, its a great alternative to sunscreen.
What is the speed of the ram?
3200 Hz ?????
Is it still possible to replace the solder CPU, I have the I5 processor version but if I would have dished out more money then I wouldn't have to i7 version. I know exactly what kind of versions they are, but is it still possible to do this.
If this laptop didnt have the gamery looks I would consider buying it, especially if they put an AMD CPU in it.
I mean the comparison is not quite fair for Intel, if I'm honest. 6 cores CPU vs 8 cores CPU? The better comparison is i7-10875h vs and 4000, 8 cores vs 8 cores
It's fair because the laptops are in the same priceclass. The cheapest 10875h options I see here are closer to 2k eur. Maybe that'll change over time, but for now?
Hi I like your video 😊👌Can MSI GF63 play GTA 5 ?
It comes with LED display or LCD ?
Is this better than asus strix g17 (120HZ) variant?
It has a rtx 2060 not the super version
maybe the spec , should text on screen ...
Could you please make a review of MSI Creator 15M laptop?
Creator 15 is coming!