You know, the final bit of the cutscene gave me the opinion that the Darkness *dumped* you back at Sanctuary after it's talk with you through your doppelganger. You played right into its hands during the final mission, you were at the belly of the beast. Your Ghost was already compromised. The Darkness could've just ended you inside there in a number of different ways. But it didn't. It let you take the artefact. It used the artefact to speak to you directly. To taunt to you, to tempt you. To let Eris research it. And finally at the end, it just dumped you at Sanctuary. You weren't even given the privilege to walk out of the Pyramid, the Darkness just pushed you out of the door without you realising it. After all, you're the strongest Lightbearer of the Traveller. And what better way to make the Light weak than to take our strongest weapon away - our agency.
I kind of wish it had been clarified a little, though. Like, the doppelganger shoves us off the cliff but instead of falling we land on the lunar surface like we just tripped or something. It would be cool and trippy rather than abrupt and ambiguous, with the same outcome.
Yeah, I was pretty upset too, but whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.
@@ninjathis3009 yeah that was pretty great, but those fallen on the ishtar sink on venus? Story is they raided the prison of elders. Got an archon priest. The queens bounty is high so we know hes powerful. We gotta hunt thos fallen down before they fully restore his soul
Sonicring123Dubs yea I’m tired of that joke too like why are people still telling it 5 years later smh and honestly whether we wanted it or not we’ve stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars so let’s get to taking out their command one by one. Valus Ta’aruc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an imperial land tank outside of Rubicon. He’s well protected, but with the right team we can punch through his defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.
Eris: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA The Nine: AAAAAAAAAAAAA Rasputin: AAAAAAAAAAAA Mara: AAAAAAAAAAAAAA Calus: AAAAAAA - wait, this wasn't a spontaneous opera convention? ...It is now! *AAAAAAAAAH!*
Eris: have you heard the story of the traveler's sacrifice? *flash back to d1* Speaker: I could tell you the story of the traveler... *back to present* Guardian: ... Nope, can't say that I have
@@aperez3124 the speaker was 100% full of shit, everything he ever told everyone was based on lies he was a false prophet and we lost nothing when he died.
Dream146 what is strange is that there hasn’t been a new speaker. I dont know how much time has passed since rhe red war but you would think a new speaker would have been chosen by now. Bungie needs to make a lore npc that gives quests and then tells you some tidbits about whats going on in the galaxy. I know voice acting is expensive but hey just a tought.
@Filthy acts at a reasonable price if you paid attention in the last cutscene. That was the same voice actor. It doest matter that its not us, they are working with the voice actor and so much as to even have a somewhat conversation with our self, even if it is one sided.
The intro mission was amazing, it felt like we were actually at WAR with the darkness. Then the last mission makes you realize “oh damn, we’re not nearly as tough as we think, they can just hijack our Ghosts” A pretty cool parallel to the first Battle for the Moon, where guardians got a wake up call to how tough Crota really was
Riding in I thought "ah so this is what a moon war would be like" then we met the hive for a SmackDown .... Then I thought "naaah this is what a moon war would be like"
@@channonikelman2041 I think that these pyramids are extremely similar to the traveler. Perhaps the same origin but the Traveler went rogue. Paybe they are "traveler 2.0"
They do a good job of encouraging and you to care about her and help her feel better. To have a better turn out than the persistent, smoldering suffering. The names and faces that are seared into her mind and heart.
I feel like Oryx should've been a nightmare. He's a pretty major part of Destiny's story as he brought the taken to the system and is arguably the most powerful enemy we've faced.
If I am correct, Oryx abandoned the "darkness" or hive God inside him when he came to us looking for revenge, that may be why he is not represented or "brought back" by the Deep, I may be way off though
@@thedarklordx Guardians are paracausal, if that were true, no phantoms would appear. Crota's there because the great disaster, and I guess they just didn't want two hive nightmares at once
@@timewellspent8137 yeah but guardians aren't throwing people into alt dimensions, creating our own worlds or raising armies with our power. So Oryx would still be a lot stronger than any guardian nightmare which is why I think maybe he was too strong to ressurect properly
Cayde did say once, that "The best hiding spots are always hidden in plain sight" What is a better hiding spot of our enemy? By being essentially our bad next door neighbor. Update: as for Eris in this campaign I will strongly hypothesize that she has high-functioning depression if I were taking a guess. The common misconception of depression in a nutshell is that someone's feeling sad which it's more like a lack of emotions whatsoever and as human beings will filled to the brim with that whether someone will admit it or not. How that tends to work is that whether or not she's sad or just completely he's being tortured from the inside from memories and whatnot, she's still able to work at Peak Performance despite the fact that she feels in a spiritual way, she's feels completely dead. That's what I love about Eris, is because despite how dead she feels on the inside of one regard or another, she is still fighting at full capacity and spite of it so nobody else has to feel that pain. If nothing else is she needs a nightmare dead, it'll be just like the first and all she needs is to give me Direction so I can stick them in a hearse
I'm loving the weekly quests we started getting to get memorabilia of her Fireteam to help her really start to finally let them go and banish the Nightmare versions of them haunting her. Feels good to be able to actually help such a tragic character.
You might be overthinking. I have depression and yes I’m numb as shit and feel like my brain killed itself last year and has been stuck in this state since and have no joy or desire in anything since there’s no more “feel good” chemicals. Eris seems to have survivors guilt and is a stones throw away from insanity
@@Trevsland its not that there are no more "feel good chemicals" is just that your brain doesnt react with them. Which is definitely rough.. I'm sorry to hear that.. But I'd say Eris has several mental issues going on. PTSD, paranoia, schitzophrenia (her glowy rock whispers to her), and likely depression. And who knows what else, she even mentions being disoriented and uneasy looking at the sky back in D1, which might be agoraphobia from living in the Hive caves so long. So yeah she's probably borderline insane..
The first mission can be summed up by this feeling: "In a game where I am an experienced hero, I've seen something I don't know. In a game where I am a god, I've met godslayers. But I. Will. Win. "
Nah, we cant win or we kill ourselves. At least according to the Symmetry Theory in Destiny. Besides fighting something like the Darkness is almost like trying to fight our own Traveler. The ONES that can give us the ability to be godslayers. So, I would be kinda freaked out now.
“Best campaign in Destiny’s history” - Whilst I understand the importance of the lore, going to have to disagree. The Taken King still sits as the best campaign hands down. Revisiting bosses we have defeated before, running through the old areas we have played before doesn’t match up to the thrill of the chase we had with Oryx, ending with him “taking” himself into his throne world. We then defeat all his lieutenants in the various strikes, before finally doing the unthinkable and going into his realm to kill him once and for all.
@@hugoa2637 I wish it wasn't. Don't get me wrong, I loved the Taken King. It's just that, that was about 5 years ago, there have been 6 other campaigns and stories that have come out since. And, while some of those were lackluster, I get tired of people always saying that TTK was the best. Forsaken definitely out does it in some regards. Two brand new locations, Tangled Shore and Dreaming City, a more personal story, us going on a quest for vengeance, to avenge our best friend Cayde, and Forsaken added in a lot of content. TTK was good up until mid-october. It got boring after September. I'm just saying that the Taken King was not the best thing to happen to Destiny, compared to Forsaken. It was great, but Forsaken just brought more to the table.
My all time favorite is and will stay for EVER Rise of Iron... there was just so many to it, i mean you literally get to meat, work with and then JOIN the Iron Lords ! THE Legendary Guardians ! Plus the swarm of SIVA taking over everything even to the point that you have to kill the remnants of the fallen Iron Lords ! I guess it's just personal feeling and preference in terms of what kind of themes and the way i like stories to be told but DAMN that campaign gave me emotions !
That line was fantastic, the emotion in her voice was perfect, she didn't want another guardian to die for her cause and subtle things like that show HUGE character development in her story
@@lanz622 Something similar to this happened in Taken King when we stole the shard of Crota's soul crystal thing. As we were running out of the hive pits you could hear her over the jammed comms saying "We're going to lose them, just like Eriana...." She has just been an amazing character from the start and I love her.
That intro mission is one of the satisfying moments in gaming I've had in a while. Turning that corner and seeing The Pyramid make me scream out of excitement
Seeing the facial animations from the bits you showed of the final cutscene in this makes me realize how much I missed from just being an Exo player. The small detail of a creepy smile or such really adds a lot more to overall unsettling tone I got from it.
Personally I think that this conclusion makes perfect sense in terms of the Beyond Light campaign, I still feel that the Darkness is not actually the evil side of the coin compared to the Traveler. They are both selfish "gods" and we are their toys, stuck in the middle of their game
I LOVE the sequences in the various campaigns where Eris saves us. It really shows how much she cares, and you can hear the desperation in her voice as.she tries to save you where she couldn't save her own fireteam.
I’ve been playing Destiny since the beginning. As an older gamer, I don’t have the time, stamina, or even the desire to pour hours and sleepless nights into multiple games. Destiny is one of maybe two exceptions. The reason? Story. The richness of the lore in this game is amazing. However, the way that it is presented, I.e. lore cards, make it difficult to stay focused or understand and follow clearly, for me. That’s why I truly enjoy and am thankful for your channel. You give the lore focus and clarity, and make it come alive. I love your videos. You have a gift. Keep it up. And thank you.
Its at that point she tells her phantoms to leave her alone and then immediately apologies saying she needs them. I never thought that I'd be sympathetic towards our friendly neighbourhood space edge lord lady until that point
JACorvin and it phrases it as though we get to free all of the phantoms so that’ll be cool cause it’ll clearly be a weekly thing so maybe an exotic reward?
Rounding that corner and seeing that pyramid (having known what it means after Ghaul) was one of very fow WOAH! moments in Destiny 2. Chilling and brilliant at the same time.
I love Shadowkeep so much. The first view of ‘pyramid’ I audibly gasped. Then at the end, when we are in the black garden type place my jaw dropped to the floor.
Great video Byf! I get chills whenever I hear that subtle six note music whenever the pyramid ships come into play. This was a great campaign, makes me glad I was with it from the beginning!
That turn where you first see the Pyramid ship; I gasped loud enough that my wife came to check to see if I was OK. I tried to explain how crazy it was that the ship was there but she knows little about Destiny besides that Nathan Fillion played Cayde. :) Shadowkeep has been amazing so far and the Vex Offensive is just kicking off along with the Nightmare Hunts. If this is just the start of year 3 I think we have quite an exciting one on our hands.
Hey Byf. Just my thoughts on the ending, but maybe the pyramid dumping us directly back into Sanctuary is supposed to show us that even our "safe zones"may not be as safe as we think. I see it as almost the pyramid making another subtle threat.
Your review is perfect. Everything you said is exactly what I was feeling when playing the campaign. They really put a lot into this expansion and it was much more engaging. Felt this when Forsaken released, as it was taking a much darker tone in the series, which the game's lore isn't all that bright anyways. This review of your needs to be shared.
Imagine this: “We are your salvation” Darkness figure claps hands together and you hear a building dark scream and your ghost slowly starts to be pulled apart, then you hear your ghost screaming for your help, you try to shoot the darkness but the darkened is immune to your attacks. Ghost pleads for the darkness mercy and you feel utterly helpless watching your ghost being murdered in front of your eyes , flashes of Cayde 6. The in a instant your pulled out by the traveler and wake up in the moon next to Eris. Credits....
"We are your salvation." [triggers flashbacks to famous *awesome* dialogue in a classic game] -That which you know as Reapers _are your salvation_ through destruction. -We are the harbinger of your perfection. -Your species will be raised to a new existence. We are the beginning, you will be the end. -Prepare for our domination. Prepare for our coming.
It'd be more interesting if your ghost just dropped out of the air like in the Nine visions we got in Season of the Drifter, then we somehow escape from the pyramid, whether it lets us go or there's an escape sequence, it doesn't matter. Then when we get out, ghost wakes up with no memory of what happened, like the vanilla adventure with Rasputin's music boxes or when Sagira takes over.
God yes I'm so glad you liked that Eris cutscene as much as I did. The pure agony and emotion in that one line was so good it was easily one of my favorite moments in the campaign.
I would have loved to see some sort of Drifter interaction, since his ominous coinflip at the end of the Invitations of the Nine just showed the thing we confronted, oh well. Also, the story hopefully continues with the Seasons.
@@Jdemonify Without spoiling, keep eyes open on Fridays in the coming weeks and grab Xur's Invitation of the Nine (or just look it up on RUclips, it would need weeks to finish it to see what I mean) ;)
I had a diffrent dialogue on my hunter than on my warlock and titan, upon finding the pyramid in the first mission. My hunter seemed to know what the pyramid was, but the other two didn't. Thought that was strange
Byf I can’t wait for you to go over the new lore books “Last Days on Kraken Mare” and “Revelation”, both of which takes place during the Golden Age. Kraken Mare takes place during the Collapse (or technically leading to it) on Titan while Revelation takes place sometime before this on the Moon and details the Anomaly Crucible map from vanilla.
Gameguy 1128 there’s another lore book that you get every week if you talk to Eris and it states it is information she gathers from the relic at the end of the story so that’s exciting!
You know, I'm glad you do what you do. I've been invested in Destiny since launch, and have been playing on and off, but have played each campaign until now. I've recently removed myself from my abusive household and getting on my own feet has been bump. I haven't had the means to get back into Destiny yet and in honesty probably won't for a while, and I'm just simply, extremely appreciative I can still watch your content and be able to experience some it to some degree. Thank you.
The FIRST time I didn't even realise sprint lock was disabled. I dropped my controller and started at the screen for a solid minute in disbelief! This "new" Bungies story telling is really something. Also thank you Byf, been waiting on this video. And I just finished your 4 hour history of Destiny overview and it was amazing! Incredible work you do!
When you come across the pyramid for the first time and your character has done the xur bounties (at least I think this is the trigger) your ghost reactions to it differs. The ghost knows what the pyramid is. My warlock had this experience due to him completing all aspects of the game that can reveal story and possible secondary dialogue. My ghost on my Titan didn’t know what we were looking at. This is why I assume it’s the Xur bounties/visions of the nine because I never did that on my Titan and only on my warlock. While the cutscene at the end of the Red War reveals the pyramids for the first time our character has no idea of what we watched when the traveler awoke so i assume this triggered the dialogue
Damn, I thought it was veteran dialogue, which is why I didn't get it on pc, despite cross save being linked to me old xbox account. That does make sense, since I never bothered to finish the xur bounties.
I actually appreciate how the last mission leaves some open-ended questions placed on us. How there wasn't no Final Big Bad to shoot at, but merely The Darkness presenting to us our low points (Traveler did nothing while Crota killed thousands on the Moon, Ghaul invaded The Last City, The Light "abandoned" Cayde-6) ect… to where It wishes to bring us "Salvation". But, at the end of the day, this is just an intergalactic pissing contest between a Ball and a Pyramid who each has an undead army at their control. And I'm loving every moment of it.
I know we're racing towards Armageddon and all, but the fact that the Darkness has started texting us on a weekly basis is hilarious. It's like being friends with Satan on social media.
When our guardian spoke my first thought is ohhhhh Byf is gonna be happy about that. Story is amazing and I've loved every part of Shadowkeep I've played so far
Shadowkeep Cosmodrome Does anyone besides me also wonder why the cosmodrome in the mission risk/reward is the original cosmodrome before Rise of Iron. Risk/reward takes place AFTER the events of forsaken but the cosmodrome is in the same state as it was BEFORE Rise of Iron. No joke in the wall, the very top off the colony ship isn’t ripped off.. even the thunderlord mission was accurate because it showed the events of roi had taken place. I get for new light players that it is the same but for veterans it makes no sense. If anyone knows the answer to this please explain because I am very confused.
I think the best explanation is that they already had the area textured and modeled for New Light and they just didn't have the resources to make ANOTHER version for the Risk/Reward mission
Seasons change in game, as such with the revelry event (or whenever the thunder lord quest came out) it was at late fall/winter so so was the in game season, in risk reward it’s just hitting fall
8:00 I wasn’t even sprinting the first time I saw the pyramid. I always take new missions slowly instead of rushing through them so that I can take in all the new content. It was on my second time through where I realize you couldn’t sprint or jump at that reveal, which made my second time through the campaign just as impactful as the first.
You couldn't be more right. New player and I'm here because I wasn't sure if the campaign was finished! Enjoyed it very much though and this channel is great! On to Beyond Light!
Me: Having watched RUclips videos for the majority of the day while playing Destiny 2: Shadowkeep. Has university in the morning and something important to do in the afternoon of that day. Byf: uploads a story/lore video on the most recent piece of Destiny 2 content. Me: Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in! *Sighs* My mother noticing me watching RUclips late at night: What are you doing son? Me: Moon's haunted. My mother: What? Me: Moon's..*cocks pistol*..haunted.
Yesss this is what I’ve been waiting for. I get the whole ‘leaving cliffhangers to expand on future stories and campaigns’ but Shadowkeep has piqued my interested with the Darkness. Glad I get to listen to this buttery voice explain everything.
I saw that ending and it was, as you said, very abrupt but when thinking on it. There might be a bit of a reason for why we do not see the escape or the Guardian making it to safety. Of course, there are numerous possibilities but when coming down to it, there are two that seems to work for why the ending was made this way. Authors and screenwriters will sometimes use that to hide a secret or a crucial element that occurred in the plot so it would not be spoiled later. 1. The Guardian did not escape the Darkness, that all of this and everything about to occur in the upcoming seasons and raids are illusions created by these creatures. As the seasons progress, the Guardian will start to feel that 'reality' is wrong with the Garden of Salvation being the place where the first hint is dropped. And it would continue to progress that way until the Guardian finally breaks free, this would make sense for the Darkness to create such a reality around the character rather than releasing them. The most powerful piece in the Traveler's arsenal trapped and unable to stop what is occurring on the outside, it could even be tied in with the Traveler eventually speaking to the Guardian. As the Darkness approaches, the Traveler is preparing and could show what occurred during the collapse or we could learn more secrets about what these darkness creatures are. 2. The second outcome is one that I strangely am hoping for. That the Guardian was released and everything else occurred in the ending but the Darkness left them with a parting gift. As it did with the Ghost, the Darkness slowly invades the Guardian's light, twisting it into darkness in order to take away the Traveler's most powerful piece. This would open up the possibilities for players to become Dark Guardians but it would be a slow progression as the light becomes denied until a critical point where the choice has to be made. Either serve the Darkness and live or serve the Traveler and die. While both shows the insidious nature of the Darkness, the latter follows what we saw in Shadowkeep, that twisted way that it seems itself as their salvation. But who knows, eventually they will tell us what the heck is going on.
I’m wrong But same I was thinking there was gonna be like 5 more missions after that. Was surprised how short it was and how confused I was on the slain phantoms and the enemies. Also, no new boss fights? Wtf bungie I payed $60 to be entertained lol
@@chrism2004 If you paid 60 it means you bought the entire expansion, meaning all the seasons that will be released during the next year. You are instead judging that entire experience with only the content of one of those 4 (I think) seasons. And you have an entire Raid, Nightmare Hunts, Nightfall: The Ordeal etc as new boss fights. I really don't understand your problem
Hi byf. I’ve been watching your channel since Destiny 1, but stopped watching in 2018 due to high school. When I watched your video, “The Complete Story of Destiny” I got back into watching your channel, and even got back into playing Destiny. I haven’t played since the curse of Osiris expansion, but look forward to grinding once again
Praedyth & 200+ simulated teams of the 4 lore famous golden age scientists escape into the black garden in the Aspect lore book. Also, they hired a voice actor for Saint 14. *google it*
The intro mission was awesome! Vanguard frames! It feels good that the vanguard is finally supporting something we're doing. I'm so interested in the hive's story and what they've been doing with the giant dorito this whole time. I can't wait for you to go over Hashbrown (or whatever her name is) turning hive away from sword logic. I need more story now!
Praedyth & 200+ simulated teams of the 4 lore famous golden age scientists escape into the black garden in the Aspect lore book. Also, they hired a voice actor for Saint 14. *google it*
So I googled it... And Jon St John was the first result because google figured "Saint 14 = St. John" I was so ready for Duke Nukem Saint 14. "It's time to bash skulls and kill Kells, and I'm all outta Kells." *Reloads Perfect Paradox*
Seeing Earth over the horizon and then turning the corner and looking down on the pyramid created an “As above, so below” moment that cannot be matched
Took me almost a whole day to realise the story had finished. I was waiting for the next step to drop and it just hasn't happened yet... left me rather cold on the story tbh and that's a shame because this was the most fun I'd had with destiny in a long time.
It's not over, at the end of every DLC we get a title card do you remember one for shadowkeep? No, meaning all of season of the undying and perhaps forward this annual pass is part of the story
Gibblets raises a good point, did this Pyramid perhaps have a part in Rezyll’s corruption? After all that started a whole chain reaction, including Shin trying to get us to try using the darkness...
Just... You can hear Eris’ patience become so thin when you’re with Ikora. That line deliverance was perfect. My friends and I were talking quietly until she just screamed, “QUIET!” We were so shocked by her outburst that we just sat in silence for the rest of the cutscene.
@@cryw1092 well no, but I think we shouldn't trust the things he says in his patrols. I'm sure he's not telling us everything he knows, and I'm not going to believe everything he tells us either.
@@svahn1 I mean, yeah, he isn't telling us everything, but that does seem to be trend amongst many characters. I do get not trusting what he says in the patrols though. After all, who's to say he isn't an illusion this time?
Me first seeing the pyramid gave me goosebumps and might be one of my favorite parts of destiny, and it's literally just a sexy sky box with some familiar music.
He took himself, so maybe he's beyond the reach of the Darkness? I think the Taken are the Oryx's attempt to mimic the ability to create Nightmares, but beyond that the reason is probably that they didn't want two hive Nightmares at once, better to represent each races ultimate champion. They most likely chose Crota instead of Oryx because, ya know, Moon's Haunted.
@@devontricmoore I mean you aren't wrong, but he's just too powerful plot wise to show before Crota. Perhaps we'll see Oryx make an appearance later on, Quria is still out and about, so theres that to contend with for obvious reasons. Would be cool to get a strike where his Nightmare shows up. But we've also already kind of had the concept before by way of Echoes of Oryx
If you listen to the Veil as we move through the Pyramid ship, they very specifically picked each of the foes we face because they caused a great trauma to Guardians and humans in general. The thousands lost to Crota, Ghaul stealing our Light, The Fanatic being involved in Cayde's death. The Darkness is spinning a very speific narrative by using the illusions of these enemies, and surprisingly Oryx doesnt fit into that narrative. We beat him with little to no major losses or casualties, so the Darkness and the Veil dont need his likeness to prove their point.
Man I love every video! Byf always just gives me chills in how he delivers us story and insight. I love the lore of this game and byf just raises it to the level it deserves to be!
"YOUR PROPHETS HAVE PROMISED YOU FREEDOM FROM A DOOMED EXISTENCE. BUT YOU WILL FIND NO SALVATION AMONG THE LIGHT." - Darkness im the form of the Gravemind
@@kurtispowers5776 Im sorry but a Spartans call must be answered. My disappearance will do nothing but hinder my and Eris Morns way to stop the Darkness that seeks to destroy us all. Im a Guardian now. And if my Family disappears from the Last Safe City. Your heads on a Pike will be the least of your worrys. I may even feed your worthless agents to the Hive. This is your one and only Warning ONI. Spartan PS-091 out.
animeak116 Jesus freak 4 life chill out we know a way to defeat the darkness I was gonna share it with you but it seems your trust issues will cost you your feeble light
@@kurtispowers5776 Right like the time where you guys experimenting on people with said Darkness. My light isn't like that of the Traveler. I dont need help from ONI kid nappers and striped children of there lifes and turning them into war machines. If yea have a suggestion talk to Eris. I will never trust you to keep any word. Good by ONI
animeak116 Jesus freak 4 life we released the hive we started the riot in the prison of elders we are the reason ghaul attacked we are the darkness itself we are much worse than kidnappers we ARE A MONUMENT TO ALL YOUR SINS and we have listened watched and figured everyone’s strengths and weaknesses you think you have power that small ship on the moon is one of thousands of larger and more advanced ships you don’t stand a chance we will watch the end of the universe aboard the Leviathan we made the monster that will consume your light and everything else in existence so WHAT DO YOU HAVE
6:43 that was a big moment. The phantoms on the ridge with the Earth in the background, then you turn the corner BAM, pyramid ship. Goddamn was so shocked haha
The ending was a little... underwhelming? I wish that, after the cutscene of us in the Garden, rather then being put back in front of Eris, we get put back on the Pyramid ship and get given a fist glimps of the race/creatures that made the ships, a true first tangible look at the "Darkness". Enemies that are completely immune and all we can do is run to survive. I wanted us to feel powerless, cornered and be killed off helplessly, only to be resurrected on the viewing platform overlooking the Pyramid.
The Deep and the Sky(darkness and traveler) are the orbs and triangles, it's what they are, a race didnt make them, we are envoys of the light, the Traveler gave us a piece of its Light to fight for it, it seems the Deep is taking the vex and using them as their envoys
@@cyyptic1 I fair point. There are a few things though, the bigest is a piece of old concept art that shows a pyramid in the back ground, similar architecture, a statue with a large orb on it and two vieled statues with orbs of their own that look identical to that which we see inside the ship. Seemingly a sort of homeworld of sorts - i.imgur.com/zkMVSu9.jpg Then there's that fact that the Hive do derive their power from the Darkness and the Vex worship it, but there's no evidence of either of them being inside the ship, especially the Hive who have known about the ship inside the moon for many years. If it doesn't want anyone inside that's onething, but there's properly defined architecture; cooridors, stairs, doors, pillers, rooms and statues. Someone or something had to make it. The biggest bit of supporting evidence comes from the Drifter, or more specifically, the lore tabs on the Warlock Ancient Apocalypse armour where it literally talks about alien monoliths and "gooy vacuous form with no head" in them and on the icy planet that could silence the Light by just being in close proximity - www.destinypedia.com/Ancient_Apocalypse_Armor_(Warlock)
It would've been cool if when you hear how a nightmare of omnigull went through the camp if you saw a few damaged or destroyed frames just lying in the background because they were slaughtered by the nightmare and it wouldve been even cooler if there was some ruined armor and some dead hive just lying around
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"Who are you?"
"Don't you know?"
"Wait, you're that guy from the multiplayer emote preview!"
This is the best joke about that scene I've ever seen😂
cahan mullan *scene
@@josephlee9267 ssssshhhh you saw nothing😂
XD okay that was a good joke
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You know, the final bit of the cutscene gave me the opinion that the Darkness *dumped* you back at Sanctuary after it's talk with you through your doppelganger.
You played right into its hands during the final mission, you were at the belly of the beast. Your Ghost was already compromised. The Darkness could've just ended you inside there in a number of different ways.
But it didn't. It let you take the artefact. It used the artefact to speak to you directly. To taunt to you, to tempt you. To let Eris research it.
And finally at the end, it just dumped you at Sanctuary. You weren't even given the privilege to walk out of the Pyramid, the Darkness just pushed you out of the door without you realising it.
After all, you're the strongest Lightbearer of the Traveller. And what better way to make the Light weak than to take our strongest weapon away - our agency.
Holy shit
Straight to the top.
NixAvernal so the darkness gave us a toy ball, patted us on the head and sent us on our way home like a good little child.
I kind of wish it had been clarified a little, though.
Like, the doppelganger shoves us off the cliff but instead of falling we land on the lunar surface like we just tripped or something. It would be cool and trippy rather than abrupt and ambiguous, with the same outcome.
It needed a goddamn cutscene where we get yeeted out though. That one touch would've made all the difference. Sparta kicked right into sanctuary.
“Most nostalgia clad enemies in Destiny”
*doesnt mention Valus Ta’aurc*
*visible frustration*
Yeah, I was pretty upset too, but whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.
Even the darkness is tired of that joke XD
Thats cause Valus T'aurc was ressurected then Taken and in the Whisper Mission. "T'Aurc, Aspect of War"
@@ninjathis3009 yeah that was pretty great, but those fallen on the ishtar sink on venus? Story is they raided the prison of elders. Got an archon priest. The queens bounty is high so we know hes powerful. We gotta hunt thos fallen down before they fully restore his soul
Sonicring123Dubs yea I’m tired of that joke too like why are people still telling it 5 years later smh and honestly whether we wanted it or not we’ve stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars so let’s get to taking out their command one by one. Valus Ta’aruc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an imperial land tank outside of Rubicon. He’s well protected, but with the right team we can punch through his defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.
Pyramid: exists on the moon
Drifter: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
let puts some scorns in there. for fun
Darkness incoming on the Moon! Go get those motes!
Eris: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The Nine: AAAAAAAAAAAAA
Rasputin: AAAAAAAAAAAA
Mara: AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Calus: AAAAAAA - wait, this wasn't a spontaneous opera convention? ...It is now! *AAAAAAAAAH!*
@@Leiliel1 cant wait for calus to just tell us to kill the darkness just so he can be the last thing alive
“Alright alright alright”
“Darkness, bring some dreambane armor!”
Eris: have you heard the story of the traveler's sacrifice?
*flash back to d1*
Speaker: I could tell you the story of the traveler...
*back to present*
Guardian: ... Nope, can't say that I have
Bryan Weimer well, the Speaker never really did tell us the story, did he?
Nope. Just that "the darkness is coming. We will not survive it." Continues to doubt our ghost. "I just hope he chose wisely."
I don't believe the Speaker actually knew, honestly.
@@aperez3124 the speaker was 100% full of shit, everything he ever told everyone was based on lies he was a false prophet and we lost nothing when he died.
Dream146 what is strange is that there hasn’t been a new speaker. I dont know how much time has passed since rhe red war but you would think a new speaker would have been chosen by now. Bungie needs to make a lore npc that gives quests and then tells you some tidbits about whats going on in the galaxy. I know voice acting is expensive but hey just a tought.
The most important thing is our guardian is able to speak again.
Hear hear.
Ya, thanks Crispin Freeman
@Filthy acts at a reasonable price if you paid attention in the last cutscene. That was the same voice actor. It doest matter that its not us, they are working with the voice actor and so much as to even have a somewhat conversation with our self, even if it is one sided.
I think Activision wanted to make money using very little resources so they fired our voice actor
But Bungie knows better
@Filthy acts at a reasonable price its not a matter of what it was. Its a matter of what it could mean.
The intro mission was amazing, it felt like we were actually at WAR with the darkness. Then the last mission makes you realize “oh damn, we’re not nearly as tough as we think, they can just hijack our Ghosts”
A pretty cool parallel to the first Battle for the Moon, where guardians got a wake up call to how tough Crota really was
Riding in I thought "ah so this is what a moon war would be like" then we met the hive for a SmackDown .... Then I thought "naaah this is what a moon war would be like"
I’m not sure if I agree with the “war” bit. I’d call it a small skirmish with a total of like 5 red jacks and a ship fighting maybe 100 hive enemies.
@@therewillbefire1833 guardian problems require guardian solutions
It also makes you have to question what possible link do Ghosts have to these ships that they can just hack them so easily.
@@channonikelman2041 I think that these pyramids are extremely similar to the traveler. Perhaps the same origin but the Traveler went rogue.
Paybe they are "traveler 2.0"
Eris went from "Cool semi crazy Hive lady with a grudge who I'll gladly help" to "Holy shit i want to hug her i will tear the universe apart to help".
They do a good job of encouraging and you to care about her and help her feel better. To have a better turn out than the persistent, smoldering suffering. The names and faces that are seared into her mind and heart.
Me goin into the first mission: time to kill these hive 😂😂😂
Me leaving the last story mission: 🗿
The Darkness: get baited loser lmao
Lmao
Me leaving the last story mission: time to kill myself
Yo, Angelo
I dont get it
I feel like Oryx should've been a nightmare. He's a pretty major part of Destiny's story as he brought the taken to the system and is arguably the most powerful enemy we've faced.
Julian Alicknavitch Would’ve most definitely preferred to fight him over Ghaul and the Fanatic.
Maybe he was too powerful because he's a paracausal god
If I am correct, Oryx abandoned the "darkness" or hive God inside him when he came to us looking for revenge, that may be why he is not represented or "brought back" by the Deep, I may be way off though
@@thedarklordx Guardians are paracausal, if that were true, no phantoms would appear. Crota's there because the great disaster, and I guess they just didn't want two hive nightmares at once
@@timewellspent8137 yeah but guardians aren't throwing people into alt dimensions, creating our own worlds or raising armies with our power. So Oryx would still be a lot stronger than any guardian nightmare which is why I think maybe he was too strong to ressurect properly
Me: *Wants to do any raid at all*
Also me: *Don't have any friends who play D2*
*Visible frustration*
That last cutscene with our guardian near the edge had me screaming at the screen "this dumbass is gonna get sparta kicked"
Adriana G I thought we were about to get yeeted off the edge and we were going to have another situation like in the base campaign
@@JynxdYT not gonna lie, I thought we were going to be replaced by them
@@Galacticbreaker who says we havent been replaced...
Again
Bungie: puts tetrahedron ship in Shadowkeep
S N E A K 1 0 0
Eris was literally dripping with excitement to get inside the large Dorito
Bungie: Puts tetrahedron in game.
Also Bungie: “ThA PYrAmiD!!”
That was good, but is it as good as eris saying “in traveler created ghosts in its dying breath..... to open doors”
PJ Lawrence pyramid sounds better. A lot better. Even if it is wrong.
Black Ibis wait so Eris has the black fluid coming from her hive eyes, does it also come from any other areas? Asking for a friend.
Finally someone points out those lights that looked like eyes. They made me jump and shoot at them on instinct.
Tried to blast it with my shotgun first time I saw them.
they made me jump as well
I yeeted at them to see if it would hit anything 🤣
I unloaded an entire clip of delirium into them when I first saw them
Yup. I thought they were eyes the first time I saw them. Reminded me of Amon from StarCraft 2. I zoomed in hoping to get a glimpse, but no luck.
"We are your salvation" "Yeah, didnt buy it when the reapers said it."
Great Mithraxx can be Garrus and The Stranger can be Tali I need my team
Never trust a man with a savior complex.😑
Lol love the reference
In the end, Destiny's story is about circles vs triangles.
It's kinda funny the Doom Dorito had green fog/smoke/fumes around it all the time... Doom Doritos repping that Mtn Dew.
It's Battle of The Shapes
so.... if we defeat the triangles, would it mean that the next greater threat would be... squares?
@@RockTheEternal They have more pointy ends D:
>the logo of Destiny used by the Speaker is a circle in between a white tricorn shape
>the circle is inside a triangle shape
>tfw it was all planned
Cayde did say once, that "The best hiding spots are always hidden in plain sight"
What is a better hiding spot of our enemy? By being essentially our bad next door neighbor.
Update: as for Eris in this campaign I will strongly hypothesize that she has high-functioning depression if I were taking a guess.
The common misconception of depression in a nutshell is that someone's feeling sad which it's more like a lack of emotions whatsoever and as human beings will filled to the brim with that whether someone will admit it or not.
How that tends to work is that whether or not she's sad or just completely he's being tortured from the inside from memories and whatnot, she's still able to work at Peak Performance despite the fact that she feels in a spiritual way, she's feels completely dead.
That's what I love about Eris, is because despite how dead she feels on the inside of one regard or another, she is still fighting at full capacity and spite of it so nobody else has to feel that pain.
If nothing else is she needs a nightmare dead, it'll be just like the first and all she needs is to give me Direction so I can stick them in a hearse
Was that a... Hellsing Abridged reference at the end.
I'm loving the weekly quests we started getting to get memorabilia of her Fireteam to help her really start to finally let them go and banish the Nightmare versions of them haunting her.
Feels good to be able to actually help such a tragic character.
You might be overthinking. I have depression and yes I’m numb as shit and feel like my brain killed itself last year and has been stuck in this state since and have no joy or desire in anything since there’s no more “feel good” chemicals. Eris seems to have survivors guilt and is a stones throw away from insanity
@@Trevsland its not that there are no more "feel good chemicals" is just that your brain doesnt react with them. Which is definitely rough.. I'm sorry to hear that..
But I'd say Eris has several mental issues going on. PTSD, paranoia, schitzophrenia (her glowy rock whispers to her), and likely depression. And who knows what else, she even mentions being disoriented and uneasy looking at the sky back in D1, which might be agoraphobia from living in the Hive caves so long. So yeah she's probably borderline insane..
Now I want to give Eris a hug :l
The first mission can be summed up by this feeling: "In a game where I am an experienced hero, I've seen something I don't know. In a game where I am a god, I've met godslayers. But I. Will. Win. "
Nah, we cant win or we kill ourselves. At least according to the Symmetry Theory in Destiny. Besides fighting something like the Darkness is almost like trying to fight our own Traveler. The ONES that can give us the ability to be godslayers. So, I would be kinda freaked out now.
“Best campaign in Destiny’s history” - Whilst I understand the importance of the lore, going to have to disagree. The Taken King still sits as the best campaign hands down. Revisiting bosses we have defeated before, running through the old areas we have played before doesn’t match up to the thrill of the chase we had with Oryx, ending with him “taking” himself into his throne world. We then defeat all his lieutenants in the various strikes, before finally doing the unthinkable and going into his realm to kill him once and for all.
Billy Nahar fax
Taken King was peak destiny
Exactly. To each his own but when he said that, it just sounded plain retarded..
@@hugoa2637 I wish it wasn't. Don't get me wrong, I loved the Taken King. It's just that, that was about 5 years ago, there have been 6 other campaigns and stories that have come out since. And, while some of those were lackluster, I get tired of people always saying that TTK was the best. Forsaken definitely out does it in some regards. Two brand new locations, Tangled Shore and Dreaming City, a more personal story, us going on a quest for vengeance, to avenge our best friend Cayde, and Forsaken added in a lot of content. TTK was good up until mid-october. It got boring after September.
I'm just saying that the Taken King was not the best thing to happen to Destiny, compared to Forsaken. It was great, but Forsaken just brought more to the table.
My all time favorite is and will stay for EVER Rise of Iron... there was just so many to it, i mean you literally get to meat, work with and then JOIN the Iron Lords ! THE Legendary Guardians ! Plus the swarm of SIVA taking over everything even to the point that you have to kill the remnants of the fallen Iron Lords ! I guess it's just personal feeling and preference in terms of what kind of themes and the way i like stories to be told but DAMN that campaign gave me emotions !
Guardians: Killing things triumphantly
Darkness/tetrahedron ship: ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT! LETS SEE WHAT WE GOT!!!
Hive! Bring a Sword!
The “guardian? I thought you’d...” line is also amazing as well
YES. It showed her, for the first time I remember, to be REALLY concerned for us.
That line was fantastic, the emotion in her voice was perfect, she didn't want another guardian to die for her cause and subtle things like that show HUGE character development in her story
@@lanz622 Something similar to this happened in Taken King when we stole the shard of Crota's soul crystal thing. As we were running out of the hive pits you could hear her over the jammed comms saying "We're going to lose them, just like Eriana...."
She has just been an amazing character from the start and I love her.
That intro mission is one of the satisfying moments in gaming I've had in a while. Turning that corner and seeing The Pyramid make me scream out of excitement
I said out loud "HOLY $&*#!!!!"
I straight up got chills
I said NO WAY
My brain fizzled with fear and shock
The end is near, the end is near, our overlord Doritos will rule all!
I curse your heathen lords and instead, will bathe in the light of our mighty pringle gods!
You mean our football god
The Traveler is a giant onion. This is the great Funoions VS Duritos war.
Forcer I find it horrifying that your in every destiny video
I feel like every comment on this one was made by a Titan, and I'm loving it!
Everyone: *uses guns*
My name is byf with a sword: *HOLD MY BEER*
Ever hear the phrase.... "Hive! Bring a sword!", byf had the right idea.
To call that unexpected is RIGHT. Had me so unbelievably shook.
(Edit: Also yeah, absolutely amazing job on Bungie's part)
Definitely, and not having it spoiled, it was an insanely interesting twist.
Changes Yor's story a bit, dunnit?
i was like "yoooooooo" when i turned around the corner
Seeing the facial animations from the bits you showed of the final cutscene in this makes me realize how much I missed from just being an Exo player. The small detail of a creepy smile or such really adds a lot more to overall unsettling tone I got from it.
Personally I think that this conclusion makes perfect sense in terms of the Beyond Light campaign, I still feel that the Darkness is not actually the evil side of the coin compared to the Traveler. They are both selfish "gods" and we are their toys, stuck in the middle of their game
When that Dark Guardian said _"We are your Salvation."_ I shivered VIOLENTLY
I know first time I ever got shivers from a game that wasn't meant to be a horror game
ME TOO I LITERALLY GOT CHILLS
I really want to see Byf’s first reaction to seeing the pyramid ship.
The triangle vs circle wars are soon to begin.
Byf: *Blocks Crota*
Crota: “I’ll f*ckin do it again
Byf: “I can do this too, you know”
Captain Byf: I can do this all day
^Actual transcript of byf's live commentary in mission.
Patrick Schmidt Crota: *proceeds to heal* So can I.
As good as Eris’s voice line was. I still feel that the Drifter tapes from SotD were the best pieces of destiny voice acting we’ve ever gotten
Yes
do you have a link to theme?
We've come a long way from Dinklebot
Taeko-3 is right there.... kappa
Alright alright alright.
I love the pyramid so much. They absolutely nailed the reveal and atmosphere. It's so huge and ominous, and the interior is sinisterly beautiful.
That.
Theme.
Been waiting for this all friggin week!
I LOVE the sequences in the various campaigns where Eris saves us. It really shows how much she cares, and you can hear the desperation in her voice as.she tries to save you where she couldn't save her own fireteam.
The ending had me like: Say what?! Hah... that funny meme reference
I’ve been playing Destiny since the beginning. As an older gamer, I don’t have the time, stamina, or even the desire to pour hours and sleepless nights into multiple games. Destiny is one of maybe two exceptions. The reason? Story. The richness of the lore in this game is amazing.
However, the way that it is presented, I.e. lore cards, make it difficult to stay focused or understand and follow clearly, for me. That’s why I truly enjoy and am thankful for your channel. You give the lore focus and clarity, and make it come alive. I love your videos. You have a gift. Keep it up.
And thank you.
I really like the little memory quest post campaign. What we do for Eris is heartwarming.
Its at that point she tells her phantoms to leave her alone and then immediately apologies saying she needs them. I never thought that I'd be sympathetic towards our friendly neighbourhood space edge lord lady until that point
JACorvin and it phrases it as though we get to free all of the phantoms so that’ll be cool cause it’ll clearly be a weekly thing so maybe an exotic reward?
Rounding that corner and seeing that pyramid (having known what it means after Ghaul) was one of very fow WOAH! moments in Destiny 2. Chilling and brilliant at the same time.
The moment I saw the Giant Dorito, my jaw dropped
Doom Dorito uses silence.
It's super effective.
I love Shadowkeep so much. The first view of ‘pyramid’ I audibly gasped. Then at the end, when we are in the black garden type place my jaw dropped to the floor.
Me and my friend: *dancing in front of shadows*
friend: *turns corner* woah whats this
me: *turns corner* YOOOOOO ITS THE TRIANGLE!
Sweet jesus... Something tells me y'all would be a blast to play this game with.
Matt Mercer did a great job delivering the lines from the darkness. I'm so glad he voices my character
Thanks so much Byf, just watched Jez’s video on shadowkeep and was wondering who some of the names like Hashpadan was, perfect timing.
Great video Byf! I get chills whenever I hear that subtle six note music whenever the pyramid ships come into play. This was a great campaign, makes me glad I was with it from the beginning!
That turn where you first see the Pyramid ship; I gasped loud enough that my wife came to check to see if I was OK. I tried to explain how crazy it was that the ship was there but she knows little about Destiny besides that Nathan Fillion played Cayde. :)
Shadowkeep has been amazing so far and the Vex Offensive is just kicking off along with the Nightmare Hunts. If this is just the start of year 3 I think we have quite an exciting one on our hands.
When i first did the campaign, the first mission loaded with me with blueberries.
It was so, so epic.
Mrmelada it always does that
I’ve needed this since i saw the ending
Toland is just a tsundere. “I-it’s not like I’m t-t-teaching you about the Hive b-because I like you, baka squanderer!”
Hayden Spence I lold 😭
Every single word you have made me read makes me want to violently stab a baby.
honestly i had no clue what the story was other than “spooky nightmares”
Dan Darkness is closer so PANIC!
Hey Byf. Just my thoughts on the ending, but maybe the pyramid dumping us directly back into Sanctuary is supposed to show us that even our "safe zones"may not be as safe as we think. I see it as almost the pyramid making another subtle threat.
Your review is perfect. Everything you said is exactly what I was feeling when playing the campaign. They really put a lot into this expansion and it was much more engaging. Felt this when Forsaken released, as it was taking a much darker tone in the series, which the game's lore isn't all that bright anyways. This review of your needs to be shared.
Imagine this:
“We are your salvation”
Darkness figure claps hands together and you hear a building dark scream and your ghost slowly starts to be pulled apart, then you hear your ghost screaming for your help, you try to shoot the darkness but the darkened is immune to your attacks. Ghost pleads for the darkness mercy and you feel utterly helpless watching your ghost being murdered in front of your eyes , flashes of Cayde 6. The in a instant your pulled out by the traveler and wake up in the moon next to Eris. Credits....
That would be awsome
"We are your salvation."
[triggers flashbacks to famous *awesome* dialogue in a classic game]
-That which you know as Reapers _are your salvation_ through destruction.
-We are the harbinger of your perfection.
-Your species will be raised to a new existence. We are the beginning, you will be the end.
-Prepare for our domination. Prepare for our coming.
It'd be more interesting if your ghost just dropped out of the air like in the Nine visions we got in Season of the Drifter, then we somehow escape from the pyramid, whether it lets us go or there's an escape sequence, it doesn't matter. Then when we get out, ghost wakes up with no memory of what happened, like the vanilla adventure with Rasputin's music boxes or when Sagira takes over.
Rip
oh damn this would be a real nightmare O_O
When the darkness ship was kept as a suprize instead of cydes death...
*[FAT DARKNESS THEME]*
Yeah i still wish that would have been a surprise.
I think they purposely spoiled his death so everyone would get a hate boner and buy forsaken just to shoot uldren
God yes I'm so glad you liked that Eris cutscene as much as I did. The pure agony and emotion in that one line was so good it was easily one of my favorite moments in the campaign.
I would have loved to see some sort of Drifter interaction, since his ominous coinflip at the end of the Invitations of the Nine just showed the thing we confronted, oh well. Also, the story hopefully continues with the Seasons.
He hinted and so did Mara Sov. This story is far from being completed. The war has just begun.
whats with the drifter? i just started.
@@Jdemonify Without spoiling, keep eyes open on Fridays in the coming weeks and grab Xur's Invitation of the Nine (or just look it up on RUclips, it would need weeks to finish it to see what I mean) ;)
Loved the yell from Eris! Just gets me in the feels the pain and anger she expresses.
I had a diffrent dialogue on my hunter than on my warlock and titan, upon finding the pyramid in the first mission. My hunter seemed to know what the pyramid was, but the other two didn't. Thought that was strange
In one of the ViDocs Bungie actually said '' The darkness is closer than you think''
Haha that’s right the cheeky buggers
Byf I can’t wait for you to go over the new lore books “Last Days on Kraken Mare” and “Revelation”, both of which takes place during the Golden Age.
Kraken Mare takes place during the Collapse (or technically leading to it) on Titan while Revelation takes place sometime before this on the Moon and details the Anomaly Crucible map from vanilla.
Gameguy 1128 there’s another lore book that you get every week if you talk to Eris and it states it is information she gathers from the relic at the end of the story so that’s exciting!
You know, I'm glad you do what you do. I've been invested in Destiny since launch, and have been playing on and off, but have played each campaign until now. I've recently removed myself from my abusive household and getting on my own feet has been bump. I haven't had the means to get back into Destiny yet and in honesty probably won't for a while, and I'm just simply, extremely appreciative I can still watch your content and be able to experience some it to some degree.
Thank you.
I know this is two years on, but I hope you are doing better, and have again entered this amazing universe
I remember my exact words when the end cutseen finished were "that can't be the end"
The FIRST time I didn't even realise sprint lock was disabled. I dropped my controller and started at the screen for a solid minute in disbelief! This "new" Bungies story telling is really something.
Also thank you Byf, been waiting on this video. And I just finished your 4 hour history of Destiny overview and it was amazing! Incredible work you do!
When you come across the pyramid for the first time and your character has done the xur bounties (at least I think this is the trigger) your ghost reactions to it differs. The ghost knows what the pyramid is. My warlock had this experience due to him completing all aspects of the game that can reveal story and possible secondary dialogue. My ghost on my Titan didn’t know what we were looking at. This is why I assume it’s the Xur bounties/visions of the nine because I never did that on my Titan and only on my warlock. While the cutscene at the end of the Red War reveals the pyramids for the first time our character has no idea of what we watched when the traveler awoke so i assume this triggered the dialogue
Damn, I thought it was veteran dialogue, which is why I didn't get it on pc, despite cross save being linked to me old xbox account. That does make sense, since I never bothered to finish the xur bounties.
@@rightupmyalley617 So that's why my 's Ghost reacted differently.
I actually appreciate how the last mission leaves some open-ended questions placed on us. How there wasn't no Final Big Bad to shoot at, but merely The Darkness presenting to us our low points (Traveler did nothing while Crota killed thousands on the Moon, Ghaul invaded The Last City, The Light "abandoned" Cayde-6) ect… to where It wishes to bring us "Salvation".
But, at the end of the day, this is just an intergalactic pissing contest between a Ball and a Pyramid who each has an undead army at their control.
And I'm loving every moment of it.
Some like Aunor fight in defense of the Light.
I’m just trying to survive...
I know we're racing towards Armageddon and all, but the fact that the Darkness has started texting us on a weekly basis is hilarious.
It's like being friends with Satan on social media.
When our guardian spoke my first thought is ohhhhh Byf is gonna be happy about that. Story is amazing and I've loved every part of Shadowkeep I've played so far
Shadowkeep Cosmodrome
Does anyone besides me also wonder why the cosmodrome in the mission risk/reward is the original cosmodrome before Rise of Iron. Risk/reward takes place AFTER the events of forsaken but the cosmodrome is in the same state as it was BEFORE Rise of Iron. No joke in the wall, the very top off the colony ship isn’t ripped off.. even the thunderlord mission was accurate because it showed the events of roi had taken place. I get for new light players that it is the same but for veterans it makes no sense. If anyone knows the answer to this please explain because I am very confused.
I was thinking the exact same thing
But the Cosmodrome looked to be in a more spring/summer state???
Not entirely sure why, but I think it's a recreation of the first mission for New Light players. You'll even come across NL players.
I think the best explanation is that they already had the area textured and modeled for New Light and they just didn't have the resources to make ANOTHER version for the Risk/Reward mission
Seasons change in game, as such with the revelry event (or whenever the thunder lord quest came out) it was at late fall/winter so so was the in game season, in risk reward it’s just hitting fall
8:00 I wasn’t even sprinting the first time I saw the pyramid. I always take new missions slowly instead of rushing through them so that I can take in all the new content. It was on my second time through where I realize you couldn’t sprint or jump at that reveal, which made my second time through the campaign just as impactful as the first.
When we all thought savathun was gonna be the big reveal in shadowkeep
Such simpler times
ClovenBog you haven’t done the new strike have you? Savathun is using the taken to go after other vex. Might be a vex civil war we don’t know about.
Zero Todona I’ve only done the strike about Crotas daughter
Really happy she’s involved with some of the bigger plot elements still
You couldn't be more right. New player and I'm here because I wasn't sure if the campaign was finished! Enjoyed it very much though and this channel is great! On to Beyond Light!
Me: Having watched RUclips videos for the majority of the day while playing Destiny 2: Shadowkeep. Has university in the morning and something important to do in the afternoon of that day.
Byf: uploads a story/lore video on the most recent piece of Destiny 2 content.
Me: Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in! *Sighs*
My mother noticing me watching RUclips late at night: What are you doing son?
Me: Moon's haunted.
My mother: What?
Me: Moon's..*cocks pistol*..haunted.
For some reason I'm picturing you saying the last part like Madea in the meme
Me: (grabs Noble rounds) need help with that haunted moon.
The Darkness's body language in that cutscene of yourself reminded me of Uldren's.
Man when I turn the corner I just stopped and said “um ok. That escalated quickly.”
Yesss this is what I’ve been waiting for. I get the whole ‘leaving cliffhangers to expand on future stories and campaigns’ but Shadowkeep has piqued my interested with the Darkness. Glad I get to listen to this buttery voice explain everything.
I saw that ending and it was, as you said, very abrupt but when thinking on it. There might be a bit of a reason for why we do not see the escape or the Guardian making it to safety. Of course, there are numerous possibilities but when coming down to it, there are two that seems to work for why the ending was made this way. Authors and screenwriters will sometimes use that to hide a secret or a crucial element that occurred in the plot so it would not be spoiled later.
1. The Guardian did not escape the Darkness, that all of this and everything about to occur in the upcoming seasons and raids are illusions created by these creatures. As the seasons progress, the Guardian will start to feel that 'reality' is wrong with the Garden of Salvation being the place where the first hint is dropped. And it would continue to progress that way until the Guardian finally breaks free, this would make sense for the Darkness to create such a reality around the character rather than releasing them.
The most powerful piece in the Traveler's arsenal trapped and unable to stop what is occurring on the outside, it could even be tied in with the Traveler eventually speaking to the Guardian. As the Darkness approaches, the Traveler is preparing and could show what occurred during the collapse or we could learn more secrets about what these darkness creatures are.
2. The second outcome is one that I strangely am hoping for. That the Guardian was released and everything else occurred in the ending but the Darkness left them with a parting gift. As it did with the Ghost, the Darkness slowly invades the Guardian's light, twisting it into darkness in order to take away the Traveler's most powerful piece. This would open up the possibilities for players to become Dark Guardians but it would be a slow progression as the light becomes denied until a critical point where the choice has to be made. Either serve the Darkness and live or serve the Traveler and die.
While both shows the insidious nature of the Darkness, the latter follows what we saw in Shadowkeep, that twisted way that it seems itself as their salvation.
But who knows, eventually they will tell us what the heck is going on.
These are very good observations and as someone who likes to write stories, I see these as possibilities that Bungie may very well be utilizing.
Spot on, BYF. Your commentary was perfectly consistent with my review and experience
Guardian: “Who are you?”
Dark/Copy Guardian: “I’m you but with a voice actor...”
Also our guardian: Has a complete dialogue with A character for the first time in years
I don't blame you Byf. That cutscenes with Eris making the nightmares yeet off was amazing.
The last mission was so cool and very interesting
Savitar sad it was a cliffhanger
I’m wrong But same I was thinking there was gonna be like 5 more missions after that. Was surprised how short it was and how confused I was on the slain phantoms and the enemies. Also, no new boss fights? Wtf bungie I payed $60 to be entertained lol
@@chrism2004 there are probably going to be more missions coming as eris uncovers more on the mysterious artifact.
@@chrism2004 If you paid 60 it means you bought the entire expansion, meaning all the seasons that will be released during the next year. You are instead judging that entire experience with only the content of one of those 4 (I think) seasons. And you have an entire Raid, Nightmare Hunts, Nightfall: The Ordeal etc as new boss fights.
I really don't understand your problem
ParmesanCheese didn’t know that
Hi byf. I’ve been watching your channel since Destiny 1, but stopped watching in 2018 due to high school. When I watched your video, “The Complete Story of Destiny” I got back into watching your channel, and even got back into playing Destiny. I haven’t played since the curse of Osiris expansion, but look forward to grinding once again
Byf do you think it’s possible that we will see Saint-14 or Praydeth this season?
I was thinking maybe in the upcoming seasons or something. I think Praydeth is the one narrating the Aspect lore book so who knows?
Praedyth & 200+ simulated teams of the 4 lore famous golden age scientists escape into the black garden in the Aspect lore book.
Also, they hired a voice actor for Saint 14. *google it*
Oh boy did this comment age well
The intro mission was awesome! Vanguard frames! It feels good that the vanguard is finally supporting something we're doing. I'm so interested in the hive's story and what they've been doing with the giant dorito this whole time. I can't wait for you to go over Hashbrown (or whatever her name is) turning hive away from sword logic. I need more story now!
Hashbrown, the tastiest of the Hive royalty.
Thoroughly salted after the destruction of her family tree.
Praedyth & 200+ simulated teams of the 4 lore famous golden age scientists escape into the black garden in the Aspect lore book.
Also, they hired a voice actor for Saint 14. *google it*
So I googled it...
And Jon St John was the first result because google figured "Saint 14 = St. John"
I was so ready for Duke Nukem Saint 14.
"It's time to bash skulls and kill Kells, and I'm all outta Kells." *Reloads Perfect Paradox*
Seeing Earth over the horizon and then turning the corner and looking down on the pyramid created an “As above, so below” moment that cannot be matched
Took me almost a whole day to realise the story had finished. I was waiting for the next step to drop and it just hasn't happened yet... left me rather cold on the story tbh and that's a shame because this was the most fun I'd had with destiny in a long time.
It's not over, at the end of every DLC we get a title card do you remember one for shadowkeep? No, meaning all of season of the undying and perhaps forward this annual pass is part of the story
@@edge4266 that was a very shitty reply consider I used the phrase "it just hasn't happened yet" if you're going to edge try not to fall off.
@@cybermunky3438 I'll be fully honest I was VERY tired last night and misread your comment
Nothing better to watch before bed than some good ol Byf
The darkness was closer than we thought I guess
Now we know why Rezyl Azzir went coocoo for PvP kills.
Gibblets raises a good point, did this Pyramid perhaps have a part in Rezyll’s corruption? After all that started a whole chain reaction, including Shin trying to get us to try using the darkness...
Just... You can hear Eris’ patience become so thin when you’re with Ikora. That line deliverance was perfect. My friends and I were talking quietly until she just screamed, “QUIET!” We were so shocked by her outburst that we just sat in silence for the rest of the cutscene.
Did you get all of the lost ghosts yet? Because I remember one of them telling us, as clear as day, to NOT trust Toland.
Thing is, has he said anything wrong so far?
@@cryw1092 well no, but I think we shouldn't trust the things he says in his patrols. I'm sure he's not telling us everything he knows, and I'm not going to believe everything he tells us either.
@@svahn1 I mean, yeah, he isn't telling us everything, but that does seem to be trend amongst many characters. I do get not trusting what he says in the patrols though. After all, who's to say he isn't an illusion this time?
Me first seeing the pyramid gave me goosebumps and might be one of my favorite parts of destiny, and it's literally just a sexy sky box with some familiar music.
“All enemies Destiny players should know.” So where’s papa Oryx?
He took himself, so maybe he's beyond the reach of the Darkness? I think the Taken are the Oryx's attempt to mimic the ability to create Nightmares, but beyond that the reason is probably that they didn't want two hive Nightmares at once, better to represent each races ultimate champion. They most likely chose Crota instead of Oryx because, ya know, Moon's Haunted.
@Time Well Spent Yeah, but Oryx would’ve been a much better fight than just sword slamming.
In all seriousness, since Bungie’s going for an over-time story, we’ll see the nightmare of Oryx later along the line.
@@devontricmoore I mean you aren't wrong, but he's just too powerful plot wise to show before Crota. Perhaps we'll see Oryx make an appearance later on, Quria is still out and about, so theres that to contend with for obvious reasons. Would be cool to get a strike where his Nightmare shows up. But we've also already kind of had the concept before by way of Echoes of Oryx
If you listen to the Veil as we move through the Pyramid ship, they very specifically picked each of the foes we face because they caused a great trauma to Guardians and humans in general. The thousands lost to Crota, Ghaul stealing our Light, The Fanatic being involved in Cayde's death. The Darkness is spinning a very speific narrative by using the illusions of these enemies, and surprisingly Oryx doesnt fit into that narrative. We beat him with little to no major losses or casualties, so the Darkness and the Veil dont need his likeness to prove their point.
Man I love every video! Byf always just gives me chills in how he delivers us story and insight. I love the lore of this game and byf just raises it to the level it deserves to be!
"YOUR PROPHETS HAVE PROMISED YOU FREEDOM FROM A DOOMED EXISTENCE. BUT YOU WILL FIND NO SALVATION AMONG THE LIGHT." - Darkness im the form of the Gravemind
animeak116 Jesus freak 4 life ONI would like to know your location
@@kurtispowers5776 Im sorry but a Spartans call must be answered. My disappearance will do nothing but hinder my and Eris Morns way to stop the Darkness that seeks to destroy us all. Im a Guardian now. And if my Family disappears from the Last Safe City. Your heads on a Pike will be the least of your worrys. I may even feed your worthless agents to the Hive. This is your one and only Warning ONI. Spartan PS-091 out.
animeak116 Jesus freak 4 life chill out we know a way to defeat the darkness I was gonna share it with you but it seems your trust issues will cost you your feeble light
@@kurtispowers5776 Right like the time where you guys experimenting on people with said Darkness. My light isn't like that of the Traveler. I dont need help from ONI kid nappers and striped children of there lifes and turning them into war machines. If yea have a suggestion talk to Eris. I will never trust you to keep any word. Good by ONI
animeak116 Jesus freak 4 life we released the hive we started the riot in the prison of elders we are the reason ghaul attacked we are the darkness itself we are much worse than kidnappers we ARE A MONUMENT TO ALL YOUR SINS and we have listened watched and figured everyone’s strengths and weaknesses you think you have power that small ship on the moon is one of thousands of larger and more advanced ships you don’t stand a chance we will watch the end of the universe aboard the Leviathan we made the monster that will consume your light and everything else in existence so WHAT DO YOU HAVE
6:43 that was a big moment. The phantoms on the ridge with the Earth in the background, then you turn the corner BAM, pyramid ship. Goddamn was so shocked haha
The ending was a little... underwhelming? I wish that, after the cutscene of us in the Garden, rather then being put back in front of Eris, we get put back on the Pyramid ship and get given a fist glimps of the race/creatures that made the ships, a true first tangible look at the "Darkness". Enemies that are completely immune and all we can do is run to survive. I wanted us to feel powerless, cornered and be killed off helplessly, only to be resurrected on the viewing platform overlooking the Pyramid.
The Deep and the Sky(darkness and traveler) are the orbs and triangles, it's what they are, a race didnt make them, we are envoys of the light, the Traveler gave us a piece of its Light to fight for it, it seems the Deep is taking the vex and using them as their envoys
@@cyyptic1 I fair point. There are a few things though, the bigest is a piece of old concept art that shows a pyramid in the back ground, similar architecture, a statue with a large orb on it and two vieled statues with orbs of their own that look identical to that which we see inside the ship. Seemingly a sort of homeworld of sorts - i.imgur.com/zkMVSu9.jpg
Then there's that fact that the Hive do derive their power from the Darkness and the Vex worship it, but there's no evidence of either of them being inside the ship, especially the Hive who have known about the ship inside the moon for many years. If it doesn't want anyone inside that's onething, but there's properly defined architecture; cooridors, stairs, doors, pillers, rooms and statues.
Someone or something had to make it. The biggest bit of supporting evidence comes from the Drifter, or more specifically, the lore tabs on the Warlock Ancient Apocalypse armour where it literally talks about alien monoliths and "gooy vacuous form with no head" in them and on the icy planet that could silence the Light by just being in close proximity - www.destinypedia.com/Ancient_Apocalypse_Armor_(Warlock)
I don't believe the story is over I believe the story of shadowkeep will end with season of the undying or even the fourth season of shadowkeep
@@edge4266 I mean, there's still a dungeon to be released on the 29th
@@deadarashi6462 exactly, who knows what else Bungo have planned
Thank you, Byf I’ve been waiting to see you’re recitation , your the best thank you so much !!!!!!
"Eris ... Get your rock. Off my map." Only the real can relate.
It would've been cool if when you hear how a nightmare of omnigull went through the camp if you saw a few damaged or destroyed frames just lying in the background because they were slaughtered by the nightmare and it wouldve been even cooler if there was some ruined armor and some dead hive just lying around
Thought I was gonna get sleep lmao
Itz Ye Boi same 😭
Those lines give me chills every time I hear it