I am sure it was registered, Mr Silly, it was just untaxed, and the chap in the video, who seems decent enough, had a good explanation and taxed it right away. wgats your point, exactly?
they were created by the devil to make our lives hell.the scum have made my driving 30+ years an absolute misery.hope they get reprimanded by any way.atb
So let’s all just be a bit more Blaise about taxing our vehicles, when dvla turn up, run indoors tax it and job done. Moral of this story ! Justification: I’m a law abider !! Tell you something, minute the roads are in disrepair, you’s lot will be first to comment and make another video ! And before we go on to the other subject that tax does not entirely go on roads, yes we know it goes everywhere else inc. nhs
He was held ransom on a private car park...legally mind you... The car park's owner could have charged him whatever he felt charging...legally... And hold his vehicle as collateral until full payment has been received... legally. This tantrum toddler should be glad he met a very nice and mellow guy and not me (for instance)...I would have had him pay up big time... possibly 5 years of road tax worth...and some fees to let him leave (open gates , taking time from the CEO and such like)
Even though he had admitted not paying tax, under law clamping a car is classed as stealing, even if its by the DVLA... So good on the guy prison guy. Plus they bleed us white on the roads with taxes left right and centre. Its atrocious
everything described about this guy's behaviour during the incident was bad enough, but once he swore like that...he should be reported and fired instantly.
@@feartheduck6664 do you really think this prison manager willfully withheld road tax at any point?? - 'Vengeance' is the way we live these days - no longer any reasonableness, decency or even common sense - Incidentally the police officer should have arrested the idiot for unlawful obstruction and public disorder - yes, I mean 'Dom' who no doubt now features in a recruitment video for the clamping company!
@77MrAH you normally get multiple letters and it'll be almost two months before they come looking to clamp it. This was either a spot check or this guy has the car registered to his place of business and the DVLA clamper has come a looking after the warning letters have been sent.
Can tell you work in a prison, you are so chilled about the way this guy was behaving, but you've probably had to deal with much much worse. Well done for keeping it calm and dealing with it politely. And I'll be double checking my tax auto renews this year! Thanks for the heads up!
No. He was an asshole. Got a break and had to rub it in. Fact was he didnt register the car. If automatic renewal, why didnt dvla apologise and sort? Big lie...
I'd report him to DVLA, get a witness statement from your colleagues and the police officer to back up your report. That is completely unprofessional behaviour, he should not be in a public office position dealing with members of the public, with that kind of attitude! 😲🥺😎👍
@hffp1 yep correct. I've seen it done on here "RUclips" and the police said pay to the clamping company or fuck off....he fucked right off. I guess a civil case would need to be brought and proof of ownership will be found.
Its a pity the car owner didnt have a heart attack and die. He had no compunction not paying tax and endangering lives driving an untaxed vehicle. We all pay ou4 taxes why does this fool deserve not to?
Mate, that was absolutely the most amazing accidental get out of jail (pardon the pun) free card I think I’ve ever seen played! Well done and super well done for being such a gentleman towards such a sore loser!
It's a sad fact of life that many people will feel disempowered, and the attitude of the clamper is a little voice from within. It's saying, "I am important! I'm the same as you! I am not a nobody, I do matter!"
They do have a job to do. In this case though it was blindingly obvious there was an oversight. You immediately sorted it. Probably just has a massive chip for prison staff. Total respect for you, both for the job you do and the calm manner you dealt with this person.
@@haystackstv5979 no Johnny I didn't. I didn't do any of it. It's sarcasm, the lowest form of wit, which I'm happy the chap making the video understood.
E Dar they have nothing to do with vehicle excise duty. Dont see what your point is. You cant be ‘charged’ with having no VED whether they work for the Government or not.
Mr Clamper ain't getting no commission today. DVLA tax enforcement is run under tender by a private company called NSL who do pay their operatives by commission 😃🤣😂
How can the DVLA clamp a car for not being taxed, if it's parked on private ground, off of Her Majesty's highway? The police were called because they would not let Dom out until he paid the car parking charge, so why did the police attend, as this was a civil matter, not a criminal matter?
Rog5446 Becauae by law the car needs to be taxed or SORNed, when not taxed you need to register the car as being parked up of road and where. If the car had a SORN showing the address of this private car park, then he'd be legal.
@@Coppertunes Not so, I have a car that was not insured and kept off road in my court yard. I had a letter from the DVLA saying that according to their information, it was not insured and they instructed me, that if the car was not being used I should SORN it, which I could do online. When I registered it SORN, they did not enquire as to where it was being kept and I duly received a cheque from the DVLA for the residual of the tax.
Listen to anybody explain a tussle and they always seem to be the calm one, with the other guy very unreasonable. This is something I learned about life. You need to have been there and seen it to know. Not saying this guy is embellishing it, but he could have been.
I can never quite understand how people like this clamper ... and many people who have some "power", however temporary it may be... take it all so personally. It seems people like this have some kind of complex.
It's so refreshing to discover a nice guy in the world. Those prisoners should be very grateful guys like him. The lady made me laugh out loud - thanks!
I had an old Mazda which wasn't taxed but I had it parked outside my house. Now, I must be honest I did know full-well that this was illegal and that the vehicle should be taxed if it is parked on the public road. But I had taken a relaxed approach to it - I reasoned that I was not driving the vehicle about and it wasn't in anybody's way parked right outside my own house, so I left it there. So one day, the Wife and I are coming out the front door to go out for a meal (it was actually my birthday) and I see that this fella has taken a photo of my car and disappeared behind a tree into a van. It's a DVLA van. I go to speak to the guy and right away he is confrontational. Right off the bat. Now, I know he probably has a lot of arguments with angry people who are having their car clamped, but I had not been confrontational with him at all and I must admit I did feel a bit intimidated by his behaviour. He wasn't just confrontational, he was aggressive with it too. I tried to reason with him but he wasn't having any of it. He'd got my back up with his attitude so I thought, fine - I'm moving the Mazda onto my drive before he puts the clamp on and then I won't let him on my property. That plan went down like a lead balloon as the bloody battery was flat, lol. So I was screwed and I had to pay the fine to have the clamp removed. But here's the real kicker: The guy explained to me that if I paid the fine that day the clamp would be removed and as long as I also taxed it, or moved it onto my drive immediately, that would be the end of it and there would be nothing more to pay. So I paid it, clamp was removed, and I taxed it. I thought everything was done and I forgot about the incident. Months later I get called into the office at work. We've received an attachment of earnings, they tell me. £900. It'll come out of your pay in monthly installments. I couldn't believe it. They weren't told what it was for either, just that it had come from the courts. I phoned the court and found out that I was also supposed to pay an additional fine to the DVLA and that I'd been prosecuted for non-payment. I'd had no idea any of this was going on! I then had to explain to my employer that it was due to non-payment of car tax but it was a very embarrassing situation and I could not believe how much the fine had ramped up. Anyway there were no installments. They took the full whack the very next month, straight out of my pay :( All in all I got done for more than £1000. I understand it's my fault but I do feel hard done by. I always tax, insure and MOT the vehicles I drive about. The *only* reason this particular one wasn't taxed is because I had it parked right outside my house and I never drove it anywhere. It's still against the rules but the penalty didn't really match the crime in my view. Won't get caught like that again. But yeah, the attitude on these DVLA enforcement staff can be very bad.
Not at all sure why you feel hard done by. You knew the vehicle should be off the road, but didn't bother. With road tax around £300 I think the cost of evasion (£1000) is about right, otherwise it would be worth taking the risk of non-payment. I bet everybody you told will be sure to SORN, or pay. Yes, some enforcement staff can be lacking, but just imagine being in their shoes. Hearing the same stupid excuses (like yours), day upon day upon day. Not to mention the verbal abuse they inevitably receive from people pissed off they've been caught.
I used to park behind my flat, It was in a car park for the shops loading in and other flats in the run of above the shops. 1 day I woke up to find a clamp on my car. they had just 'privatised' the car park. there was a guy clamping other cars too. No warning had been given that the car park was going to start charging. I explained this to the clamper, had no idea the car park was going to be charging. So i got out my hack saw and started sawing thru the clamp. Clamper called the police, one arrived, very quickly, and said to the clamper it's not criminal damage until I had cut right thru the clamp. Spluttering clamper removed the damaged clamp. I told him I would just cut it off if I was ever clamped again. I parked there for free for the next 6 months.
If it should have automatically renewed (didn't know that was an option), but didn't, the failure was in the control system, not with you. If so, you didn't get lucky, you were switched on. People are swindled out of so much over a life time. Calm rebellion, nice one.
@@the90sfattyfromtakethat Nonsense, of course automatic renewal isn't the default action. To auto-renew you need to select that option, then ensure the funds and card are in place to pay when its due. He didn't do this, didn't read the warning emails and so was clamped at the registered address he'd given, which incidentally they're permitted to do.
No, wrong. He failed to ensure his direct debit was valid, so he's just as guilty as anyone else who hasn't paid. The failure was with him, and he was lucky to get off.
Your car does not need to be taxed to be parked on private land, he was trespassing, your car was clamped illegally. Doesn't matter whether you taxed it before his clamp or not, he can only clamp your car if it's on a public highway. Nice of him to give you heads up though that your tax hadn't renewed ;-)
My car tax too was supposed to auto renew, got a letter last week from the DVLA saying it wasn’t taxed. Did it immediately online and then called DVLA because there was back tax to pay and asked why it hadn’t auto renewed, they said because the MOT was ‘due’ to run out (not had run out) and they wouldn’t tax a car without a MOT. My MOT was carried out on time, however the DVLA said they don’t check this afterwards but should have written to me, I didn’t receive any letter so could easily have found myself in the same situation.
I WISH someone recorded the whole thing and ESPECIALLY the part when he shouted at you in front of everyone. Get him done and press charges, glad you got it all sorted though.
I used to work under the railway bridge and used the station dozens of times in my youth. Planning to move back to SY10 this Summer if house sale works out in next few weeks. Great schooling of man who proved himself inept.
FL34747 Well actually it’s a very sensible comment, you can’t live your life expecting others to do everything for you, unless you’re a child then that’s fair enough.
Well you obviously expected your network to be working when you made this comment, so why is an automated IT-based taxation system any different? @@philipeflop9943
FL34747 I knew it was going to work because I checked the payment for my internet had come out of my bank account. Should always check you’ve paid for services you’ve used otherwise you could get a situation like the guy in the video did.
Congratulations, you are a faithful little servant aren't you? I was referring to network outages, not whether you'd paid for them or not. @@philipeflop9943
This is a victim of a system which I believe is a money making revenue. THEFT. Fair play to him as he acted with complete calmness and politeness. He went out of his way to reason and problem solving this situation. I however would of acted somewhat different. However I myself had my car clamped recently by a private contractor.As my car is a soft top convert able they were unable to impound my car,which is what they normally do in my area.I can only guess they need a bigger and a different vehicle to have my car lifted because lifting by the two sides would actually rip the soft material roof? I have to be completely honest my car was not taxed and over sight by myself.The car is exempt from tax under Disability,but I have to still fill in the forms each renewal.The following day I taxed it then phoned the company to remove the umbilical cord but they were not accepting my credit card or a friends. Which we were both could not understand as there was sufficient funds? Anyway I was not putting up with the inconvenience and letting them incur even more charges.So we removed the car from the road after it took 4hrs getting it onto a small lifting vechile. Very difficult with a clamp round the front wheel. Was not going to break the clamp and break any law concerning DVLA man law of theirs.It threatens and warns DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REMOVE THE CLAMP AS IT WILL LEAD TO PROSECUTION DVLA. It does not say you cannot remove car with clamp intact.Was not prepared to leave my property on a road 20 minutes away from my house.It was after 5 days and nobody contacted me or was visited by the heavys. So I learnt to pick the lock and removed the clamp with any damage.The clamp is in my garage if DVLA wish to have their umbilical cord back. Further more when I taxed the car I had to start the tax from the 1st day of the month which the clampers had placed the clamp after the car in theory was legally taxed.My advice is don't give in to theft threats ect made by the DVLA but find a way to beat them legally. I did and looks like I have.
You say he is a victim, but how ?, The way I see it is, he had no tax prior to being clamped and had been using it on the road illegally, also automatic renewal of tax is by direct debit and if a payment fails then the DVLA will send an email on that day informing you they will try again within 4 days of it happening, if it fails again another email is sent permanently cancelling the direct debit, Vehicle clamping for non payment of vehicle tax usually happens after a fine of £80 has been sent to your address and it has not been paid so he must of been aware , unless of course he doesn't check his emails and post, in this day and age I think the majority of us check emails daily on our smart phones and have post delivered daily.
@@builderboyish He stated he was unaware his vehicle wasn't taxed. Are you saying he's a liar ?. FFS just take it for what it is instead of bolting shit on. Unless you are a Car Clamper yourself....
A message to BB which I think I must answer for everybody. First BB are you a Clamper or even worst DVLA? Would you like your clamp back? My suggestion is to play and watch the whole video and listen to what this VICTIM actually says. Lets not forget this man is too busy looking after real CRIMNALS. Furthermore your information is incorrect. DVLA send out a SORN letter before tax runs out. As for e.mails from DVLA are you having a laugh. Try contacting DVLA is an impossibilitiy. They have no time to be personal with anyone.Myself renew my car tax through the POST OFFICE simply because I don't have a bank account. DD is a choice.I find it more difficult to remember when my tax is due since they abolished the tax disc. How convenient is that for DVLA. Further more the clamper trespassed on PRIVATE PROPERTY. He has not been given permission to act illegally on someone's PRIVATE LAND. Where do you come up with a statement saying the car has been illegally driven on the roads. The car was parked on PRIVATE PROPERTY therefore was not on the Public Highway.This gentleman actually was so gentle and tried everything to solve the situation. He actually behaved professionally unlike the clamper who works in the public eye. He is certainly a VICTIM of verbal abuse. As the Policeman stated would you like to press charges against the clamper. To which he replied no. Verbal Abuse is a criminal offence, the highway taxation does not come under criminal law. AMEN
@@builderboyish email should not be relied upon. Email is (was) my job for many years, I've been developing messaging and mailing systems since before most of you had heard of the internet. Email is not a reliable form of communication, there are too many ways for it to go wrong, there's no end-to-end verification, messages get eaten by spam filters (because 99% of mail admins can't run a spam filter right), or get lost in mountains of spam in the user's spambox. I could make email as reliable as they wish it was, many mail admins know how, but that would require every mail admin in the world to change to a new system in lockstep with each other, so it'll never happen. secondly, the government can't send postal mail right to save their lives, I've had appointments sent by government departments where the date on the postmark was 3 weeks after the date on the letter, 2 weeks after the appointment, and I've had that same cock-up 5 times in a row until I had to ask my member of parliament to sort out the ensuing mess for me. I'd agree with you if the chosen methods of communication were a little more reliable. They should use SMS, and use return receipts or whatever the SMS world calls them to verify that a message has been delivered to a set of eyeballs not just delivered to a phone. If they can afford to employ someone to stick clamps on why can't they employ someone to hand-deliver a printed version of the message to the home address of anyone who fails to open the SMS version of the message? The facts are that the objective isn't to ensure you pay in the first place, it's to extort you when you don't pay, and anything which helps you to not pay is a good thing from their viewpoint because then they get to demand large amounts of money with menaces.
nothing to feel guilty for re not paying your tax. a similar thing happened to me 3 years ago, taxed it on-line with the promise of auto-renew every year. 13 months later got a letter from DVLA saying i had been fined £60 for neither renewing or declaring a sorn. i checked back and found that indeed my tax had not been taken from my account the previous month. i re-taxed it straight away, it had been parked on the road and driven over the course of the untaxed period so i guess i was lucky. wrote back disputing the fine as i had complied with all of their conditions and it was therefore their fault for not collecting the tax as stated they would. two weeks later got a letter back saying that " under the circumstances, no further action will be taken"
@@bearing40000 The DVLA CANNOT enter private car parks and clamp/fine you. The DVLA is in Swansea. The employees work in a stuffy office in Swansea! They contract other companies to private clamping services! Why does Joseph comment about mattes he knows nothing about?
Too right! In Scotland it is, as it's classed as demanding money with menaces, or something like that. One of my ex students got clamped and said that 5 large guys and 2 trucks turned up and were quite intimidating. He and his partner were trying to get to their work in a hospital (he works in A & E), but had to find £300 to get unclamped. They should have taken photos of the guys, and if they ever come into A & E, delay treatment for the same amount of time that they've delayed you (hopefully the fuckers will need it at some point).
I moved house and didn't change where my car was registered so didn't get the reminder. I got clamped n it cost me over 400 in total. The DVLA charged me for a couple of different things and I had to pay to get the clamp off. I'm surprised if u don't get a fine for not having tax on ur car.
If Dom doesn't want the tickets could I have them instead. I live in Telford so not that far away from Shrewsbury Gaol. I promise I won't call you any names if you decline my request. Have a nice day Joel.
Properly handled. And gracious. Best way to be. Non of this naa naaa bollox this is life you win some lose some. Just in hes position he aint used to losing. Well done.
Just to be petty I'd of charged him the private parking fee, and went on to press charges for public antisocial disorder, that would of really pissed him off lol
the clamper sounds like the kind of person that loves his tiny bit of power and likes to get the last word.....and when that was denied him he didnt like it one bit
Good on you disgraceful behaviour by a public employee. You are a gentleman not to have taken further action... the worrying thing is what he is going to do in the future, maybe he should lose his job. Sadly people like that never do learn or change.
he'd be within his rights to get an angle grinder to remove the clamp.. I know that's what I'd have done. Doesn'tmatter if the carwas taxed or not as it was parked on private land.
I doubt he would of learned from that episode, he sounds like the sort of bloke who usually gets enjoyment from clamping people but on this occasion he lost!!
@@markplenty2631 There's not much of a way to help a person with a chip on their shoulder ... it's been with them for years and will likely remain for good ... hence his seeking out such a job along with acting in the way he did in this situation. We need parking enforcement officers for example ... we need people who ensure that the purchase of road tax is made every year and I'm sure there are many people in these unpopular but necessary positions who are fair. This bloke seemed to want to "win" at all costs. His crude reaction as he drove away said everything about him. He needs to be fired and perhaps get a job where he doesn't interact with the public. Surely, if his employers watch this video they'll do the right thing and get rid of him.
You think... he doesn't earn commission from it, however I would not be sure about that. It is known fact that debt collectors, bailiffs and HCEOs earns commission, it is fact that parking wardens have quotas to meet. So I would not be surprised that DVLA has hired private contractors working either on commission or quotas basis. Yes he has no share of your road tax (some people would say VED is not road tax, but it is), but he certainly gets some share in some way from the release charge - either directly by taking the charge to himself, or indirectly where contract says somethign along the lines of "you have to clamp 500 cars a month to earn agreed bonus" etc.
What a wanker! this reminds me when my grandad parked up in Asda in a disabled bay, and he opened his door causing his blue badge to be blown off the dashboard A traffic warden approached him, and said that there was no badge on the dashboard My grandad picked it up off the ground, the guy seen it, all’s well
Just spotted this and I can only commend you on your calm, polite and appropriate approach. The clampers attitude was unpleasant and unprofessional. I think the officer should have had a polite little word in his shell-like after the verbal abuse episode.
I’m glad somebody like you is working in a youth prison that kind of calmness and reason you have is just what those kids need.. a lot of people like you in positions of authority are power hungry ... as a man that grew up in care I’m telling you you are ah asset and I wish you was looking after me rather than the people that just called me a “little shit” as a kid
Not sure how I found this but enjoyed listening!
Tic Tac
Wheyyy Callum! :)
Same here Callum same here.
@@kyronbamford4946 Who's a nonce Mr Battyford
you cannot auto-renew tax, an MOT is required no current MOT means unroadworthy by default, ie you can not tax it.
The country is full of sad bastards like that who have been granted a bit of power of the rest of us - what a way to go through life!
The car was unregistered...what if he ran over and killed your family?....
I am sure it was registered, Mr Silly, it was just untaxed, and the chap in the video, who seems decent enough, had a good explanation and taxed it right away. wgats your point, exactly?
they were created by the devil to make our lives hell.the scum have made my driving 30+ years an absolute misery.hope they get reprimanded by any way.atb
So let’s all just be a bit more Blaise about taxing our vehicles, when dvla turn up, run indoors tax it and job done. Moral of this story ! Justification: I’m a law abider !! Tell you something, minute the roads are in disrepair, you’s lot will be first to comment and make another video ! And before we go on to the other subject that tax does not entirely go on roads, yes we know it goes everywhere else inc. nhs
@Little Cente the whole world not just your country.
He basically nearly screwed his life up just because he couldn't control his temper like a level-headed adult. Well done for how you handled it.
cheers pal, yes he nearly got screwed big time
DVLA Guy : "I will not be held to ransom!!", which is exactly what the DVLA does when it clamps a member of the public's car......
@nobody worth knowing Like the corporations do ah!
He was held ransom on a private car park...legally mind you... The car park's owner could have charged him whatever he felt charging...legally... And hold his vehicle as collateral until full payment has been received... legally. This tantrum toddler should be glad he met a very nice and mellow guy and not me (for instance)...I would have had him pay up big time... possibly 5 years of road tax worth...and some fees to let him leave (open gates , taking time from the CEO and such like)
Even though he had admitted not paying tax, under law clamping a car is classed as stealing, even if its by the DVLA... So good on the guy prison guy. Plus they bleed us white on the roads with taxes left right and centre. Its atrocious
@nobody worth knowing we don't have to, but we are willing little slaves....
@@koningbolo4700 You need to brush up on your law. It appears that you haven't a clue what can and cannot be done "legally".
everything described about this guy's behaviour during the incident was bad enough, but once he swore like that...he should be reported and fired instantly.
YEPPERS. YOU'RE RIGHT.
The DVLA guys attitude speaks volumes about what kind of people do these kind of jobs...
yeah, narcissistic sociopaths.
Its better than a liar that didnt pay his tax.
...or OR, they could just be people that needed a job. Like the rest of us.
you've taken the words out of my mouth, he's not on commission is he
@@sacramentumest-opertum7127 Same question goes to you as well I guess.
These clampers are privately run. It's a con. Glad you got sorted out ok.
FYI. DVLA clampers are not a con, WILL tow your vehicle AND crush it if you don't pay.
@@grizzlygamer8891 doesn't need to be taxed if not on public highway. However should have served SORN to DVLA if not taxed.
Its a con not paying your tax...
@@feartheduck6664 do you really think this prison manager willfully withheld road tax at any point?? - 'Vengeance' is the way we live these days - no longer any reasonableness, decency or even common sense - Incidentally the police officer should have arrested the idiot for unlawful obstruction and public disorder - yes, I mean 'Dom' who no doubt now features in a recruitment video for the clamping company!
@77MrAH you normally get multiple letters and it'll be almost two months before they come looking to clamp it.
This was either a spot check or this guy has the car registered to his place of business and the DVLA clamper has come a looking after the warning letters have been sent.
Sounds like Dominic wanted his bonus for clamping your car lol
Hard luck Dom 😂😂😂
Very honest of you to tell the true story, more power to you.
he runs a prison!
Can tell you work in a prison, you are so chilled about the way this guy was behaving, but you've probably had to deal with much much worse. Well done for keeping it calm and dealing with it politely. And I'll be double checking my tax auto renews this year! Thanks for the heads up!
This guy seems like a really good person! Most people would be livid but he was understandin, cooperative, kind, sand completely well mannered!
your right i was and the clamper flipped because of it. Was touch and go for a moment but common sense prevailed.
You have a very good attitude .Cool , calm and collected .You certainly spoilt that clamper s day .
No. He was an asshole. Got a break and had to rub it in. Fact was he didnt register the car. If automatic renewal, why didnt dvla apologise and sort? Big lie...
@@feartheduck6664
www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-direct-debit/renewing
You sir are a legend, well done for keeping your cool and being mature and professional
Top man the most polite bloke I've ever seen
I'd report him to DVLA, get a witness statement from your colleagues and the police officer to back up your report. That is completely unprofessional behaviour, he should not be in a public office position dealing with members of the public, with that kind of attitude! 😲🥺😎👍
Super calm in this situation, well done 👍🏼
He did not work for DVLA, he works for a private contractor called NSL who work on behalf of DVLA
Craig McKenzie so indirectly he does!!lol
yes you are right i used to work with NCP services who had the contract in scotland
@hffp1 yep correct. I've seen it done on here "RUclips" and the police said pay to the clamping company or fuck off....he fucked right off. I guess a civil case would need to be brought and proof of ownership will be found.
NSL , are a criminal organisation.
scottishmale1970 About 10 years ago NCP hived off their enforcement business which became NSL Services (now part of Marston Holdings).
There's a lot of waffle in this. I'm struggling to sort the waffle from the bullshit.
brilliant story dead chuffed the DVLA got screwed for a change lol poor dom
"made the police officer tea " hahaha classic
kite2surf yeah it was a nice touch
Joel, that's a very well told enjoyable story. Good for you, you were a gentleman all the way through.
cheers
You really should have pressed charges. He was not going to give you any leeway, so you should have not given him any either.
Its a pity the car owner didnt have a heart attack and die. He had no compunction not paying tax and endangering lives driving an untaxed vehicle. We all pay ou4 taxes why does this fool deserve not to?
@Yorkshire Lad these self destructing untaxed cars are a danger to us all!
@@feartheduck6664 = silly comment
@@TheScottishSprayer 🤣🤣🤣
@Yorkshire Lad
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Mate, that was absolutely the most amazing accidental get out of jail (pardon the pun) free card I think I’ve ever seen played! Well done and super well done for being such a gentleman towards such a sore loser!
I could listen to you talk all day! Love the accent...cheers mate. Greetings from Phoenix Arizona :-)
Don`t know why I actually sat through this, but I thoroughly enjoyed your wee tale of woe Joel. Well done, sometimes the nice guys do win lol.
lols, thank you
It's a sad fact of life that many people will feel disempowered, and the attitude of the clamper is a little voice from within. It's saying, "I am important! I'm the same as you! I am not a nobody, I do matter!"
We can only hope that DVLA and Dom's employers see this video... (Hi Dom - we know you are reading this - ha ha!)
The trouble is power goes to there head, it's like the highway agency give them a hi vis and they become little hitters
Why didn’t you record the interaction instead of telling it ?
It's much easier.
@@dhvsheabdh Yes, and then we wouldn't have to rely on his rambling version of events.....
Nice video. Explained clearly and concisely, worth posting.
thank you
Nice one , in situations like that the more calm and relaxed you are winds up people like Dom even more
They do have a job to do. In this case though it was blindingly obvious there was an oversight. You immediately sorted it. Probably just has a massive chip for prison staff. Total respect for you, both for the job you do and the calm manner you dealt with this person.
The people who do this job are generally people who aren’t intelligent enough to clean toilets!
@Bill Whittaker maybe. The impression is that it's a working prison.
1/10 for comprehension.
I had a shower, cooked dinner and watched an episode of G String Divas, came back and you were still talking.
Andrew Marshall imagine how my wife feels
You did all that in 11 and a half minutes did you?
@@haystackstv5979 no Johnny I didn't. I didn't do any of it. It's sarcasm, the lowest form of wit, which I'm happy the chap making the video understood.
should have pressed charges , out of principle
but that would have just wasted more police time. we got too few coppers out there for more important crimes as it is.
john king police?why? Nothing to do with the police
@@2010wembley police work for goverment.
E Dar they have nothing to do with vehicle excise duty. Dont see what your point is. You cant be ‘charged’ with having no VED whether they work for the Government or not.
Well done for writing "...should HAVE....", unlike most idiot commenters.
The dvla guy sounds like a right nutcase.
"made the officer a cup of tea!" Excellent! got to love computer time stamps!
So morale of the story, if your car gets clamped, tax that shit real quick before they put it on the system.
Poor Dominic!! That's the system mate lol Top man Joel for handling that situation well.
Mr Clamper ain't getting no commission today. DVLA tax enforcement is run under tender by a private company called NSL who do pay their operatives by commission 😃🤣😂
Nsl don't pay the dvla guys commission but they do pay a productivity bonus alfor going above set targets .
@@dannycooper4498 same difference?
It’s only because you diminished his sense of authority. Played him at his own game 😂
well done that young man for keeping his cool
I feel sorry for him! He must have a really shit life if this is how he acted over such a trivial matter! Pray for Dom! 🙏🏽
You know that's a high 5 emoji right?
Non ducor, duco You the emoji police or something?
How can the DVLA clamp a car for not being taxed, if it's parked on private ground, off of Her Majesty's highway?
The police were called because they would not let Dom out until he paid the car parking charge, so why did the police attend, as this was a civil matter, not a criminal matter?
Rog5446 Becauae by law the car needs to be taxed or SORNed, when not taxed you need to register the car as being parked up of road and where. If the car had a SORN showing the address of this private car park, then he'd be legal.
@@Coppertunes
Not so, I have a car that was not insured and kept off road in my court yard.
I had a letter from the DVLA saying that according to their information, it was not insured and they instructed me, that if the car was not being used I should SORN it, which I could do online.
When I registered it SORN, they did not enquire as to where it was being kept and I duly received a cheque from the DVLA for the residual of the tax.
@@Rog5446 When you register it as SORN it is implied it is at the registered address,unless stated otherwise.
you should of got him done he is just going to do it to others
Shrewsbury Prison is actually a really interesting tour.
Dominic is missing out by refusing free tickets.
Absolutely hilarious 🤣😆😂. Interesting channel mate
Glad you enjoyed
Nice pun at the end “Dominic come on one of our escape events”, priceless
Well done lad! They are more than happy to abuse the system but if you do things by the book they'll still accuse you of swindling!
Well of course they consider it swindling - the situation ended without them getting money!
The Prison in question is the Dana Prison in Shrewsbury. Its awesome
I was there before it was awesome. :-(
@@neville_bloody_bartos Ahh shoot. Sad times , what did you get done for?
@@jackstephens7222 Armed robbery, spent 6 months on remand, judge threw the case out on the first day of trial.
Just come across your channel, hilarious opening video to watch!! I hope they’re all this funny. I going to stayed tuned. All the best guys
You must be the most patient, reasonable and chilled-out guy in Europe!
Listen to anybody explain a tussle and they always seem to be the calm one, with the other guy very unreasonable. This is something I learned about life. You need to have been there and seen it to know. Not saying this guy is embellishing it, but he could have been.
@eamon thomas sheep ha ha. You work? You drive? Get in your field
The police should have charged him anyway since he shouted in public.
Definitely should have charged him.
He needed to be taught a lesson
I can never quite understand how people like this clamper ... and many people who have some "power", however temporary it may be... take it all so personally. It seems people like this have some kind of complex.
It's so refreshing to discover a nice guy in the world. Those prisoners should be very grateful guys like him. The lady made me laugh out loud - thanks!
Friendly tax dodgers are the best!!!
I had an old Mazda which wasn't taxed but I had it parked outside my house.
Now, I must be honest I did know full-well that this was illegal and that the vehicle should be taxed if it is parked on the public road.
But I had taken a relaxed approach to it - I reasoned that I was not driving the vehicle about and it wasn't in anybody's way parked right outside my own house, so I left it there.
So one day, the Wife and I are coming out the front door to go out for a meal (it was actually my birthday) and I see that this fella has taken a photo of my car and disappeared behind a tree into a van.
It's a DVLA van.
I go to speak to the guy and right away he is confrontational. Right off the bat.
Now, I know he probably has a lot of arguments with angry people who are having their car clamped, but I had not been confrontational with him at all and I must admit I did feel a bit intimidated by his behaviour. He wasn't just confrontational, he was aggressive with it too.
I tried to reason with him but he wasn't having any of it. He'd got my back up with his attitude so I thought, fine - I'm moving the Mazda onto my drive before he puts the clamp on and then I won't let him on my property.
That plan went down like a lead balloon as the bloody battery was flat, lol.
So I was screwed and I had to pay the fine to have the clamp removed. But here's the real kicker:
The guy explained to me that if I paid the fine that day the clamp would be removed and as long as I also taxed it, or moved it onto my drive immediately, that would be the end of it and there would be nothing more to pay.
So I paid it, clamp was removed, and I taxed it. I thought everything was done and I forgot about the incident.
Months later I get called into the office at work. We've received an attachment of earnings, they tell me. £900. It'll come out of your pay in monthly installments.
I couldn't believe it. They weren't told what it was for either, just that it had come from the courts. I phoned the court and found out that I was also supposed to pay an additional fine to the DVLA and that I'd been prosecuted for non-payment. I'd had no idea any of this was going on!
I then had to explain to my employer that it was due to non-payment of car tax but it was a very embarrassing situation and I could not believe how much the fine had ramped up.
Anyway there were no installments. They took the full whack the very next month, straight out of my pay :(
All in all I got done for more than £1000.
I understand it's my fault but I do feel hard done by. I always tax, insure and MOT the vehicles I drive about. The *only* reason this particular one wasn't taxed is because I had it parked right outside my house and I never drove it anywhere. It's still against the rules but the penalty didn't really match the crime in my view.
Won't get caught like that again.
But yeah, the attitude on these DVLA enforcement staff can be very bad.
Not at all sure why you feel hard done by. You knew the vehicle should be off the road, but didn't bother. With road tax around £300 I think the cost of evasion (£1000) is about right, otherwise it would be worth taking the risk of non-payment. I bet everybody you told will be sure to SORN, or pay.
Yes, some enforcement staff can be lacking, but just imagine being in their shoes. Hearing the same stupid excuses (like yours), day upon day upon day. Not to mention the verbal abuse they inevitably receive from people pissed off they've been caught.
It shows the level of immaturity amongst 'so called' adults today! Give somebody a hat and a clipboard...……..
little hitlers
Loved this! Such a lovely man :)
You're a much nicer person than I am. :-)
I used to park behind my flat, It was in a car park for the shops loading in and other flats in the run of above the shops. 1 day I woke up to find a clamp on my car. they had just 'privatised' the car park. there was a guy clamping other cars too. No warning had been given that the car park was going to start charging. I explained this to the clamper, had no idea the car park was going to be charging. So i got out my hack saw and started sawing thru the clamp. Clamper called the police, one arrived, very quickly, and said to the clamper it's not criminal damage until I had cut right thru the clamp. Spluttering clamper removed the damaged clamp. I told him I would just cut it off if I was ever clamped again. I parked there for free for the next 6 months.
Give a person a position to clamp he'll think he's the most powerful person in the world.
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If it should have automatically renewed (didn't know that was an option), but didn't, the failure was in the control system, not with you. If so, you didn't get lucky, you were switched on. People are swindled out of so much over a life time. Calm rebellion, nice one.
Electric Ian it’s not an option it’s default unless u cancel wake up it’s not 1990
I don't pay by direct debit, but I will attempt to wake up.
@@the90sfattyfromtakethat Nonsense, of course automatic renewal isn't the default action. To auto-renew you need to select that option, then ensure the funds and card are in place to pay when its due. He didn't do this, didn't read the warning emails and so was clamped at the registered address he'd given, which incidentally they're permitted to do.
No, wrong. He failed to ensure his direct debit was valid, so he's just as guilty as anyone else who hasn't paid. The failure was with him, and he was lucky to get off.
barlow2976 yes it is default it’s rolling unless u select not to
I,ve never heard of automatic road tax renewal .... even my car that is tax free has to be renewed on the system.
You can set it up to renew automatically on the DVLA web-site.
You've been too nice....He needs training in how to deal with the public
Your car does not need to be taxed to be parked on private land, he was trespassing, your car was clamped illegally. Doesn't matter whether you taxed it before his clamp or not, he can only clamp your car if it's on a public highway. Nice of him to give you heads up though that your tax hadn't renewed ;-)
Not true. It can be clamped in carparks, and at the registered address- which is where it was, and is how the clamper found it.
My car tax too was supposed to auto renew, got a letter last week from the DVLA saying it wasn’t taxed. Did it immediately online and then called DVLA because there was back tax to pay and asked why it hadn’t auto renewed, they said because the MOT was ‘due’ to run out (not had run out) and they wouldn’t tax a car without a MOT. My MOT was carried out on time, however the DVLA said they don’t check this afterwards but should have written to me, I didn’t receive any letter so could easily have found myself in the same situation.
I WISH someone recorded the whole thing and ESPECIALLY the part when he shouted at you in front of everyone. Get him done and press charges, glad you got it all sorted though.
Pity Dom,working on commission,for yet another pond life dredging 'financial' company.
He does get commission that’s why he was so pissed
ABSOLUTELY.
Excellent job Sir. Respect to you.
God Bless you and your Family.
Stay safe.
Thank you kindly
I thought it looked familiar. At 8:55 you confirmed it is HMP Shrewsbury in the background. Good job Joel!
yes it is Shrewsbury prison
I used to work under the railway bridge and used the station dozens of times in my youth. Planning to move back to SY10 this Summer if house sale works out in next few weeks. Great schooling of man who proved himself inept.
Moral of this story, make sure you tax your car
I think you missed the point of the automatic renewal. Why is it up to us to check that their system hasn’t failed? Stupid comment.
FL34747 Well actually it’s a very sensible comment, you can’t live your life expecting others to do everything for you, unless you’re a child then that’s fair enough.
Well you obviously expected your network to be working when you made this comment, so why is an automated IT-based taxation system any different? @@philipeflop9943
FL34747 I knew it was going to work because I checked the payment for my internet had come out of my bank account. Should always check you’ve paid for services you’ve used otherwise you could get a situation like the guy in the video did.
Congratulations, you are a faithful little servant aren't you? I was referring to network outages, not whether you'd paid for them or not. @@philipeflop9943
This is a victim of a system which I believe is a money making revenue. THEFT. Fair play to him as he acted with complete calmness and politeness. He went out of his way to reason and problem solving this situation. I however would of acted somewhat different. However I myself had my car clamped recently by a private contractor.As my car is a soft top convert able they were unable to impound my car,which is what they normally do in my area.I can only guess they need a bigger and a different vehicle to have my car lifted because lifting by the two sides would actually rip the soft material roof? I have to be completely honest my car was not taxed and over sight by myself.The car is exempt from tax under Disability,but I have to still fill in the forms each renewal.The following day I taxed it then phoned the company to remove the umbilical cord but they were not accepting my credit card or a friends. Which we were both could not understand as there was sufficient funds? Anyway I was not putting up with the inconvenience and letting them incur even more charges.So we removed the car from the road after it took 4hrs getting it onto a small lifting vechile. Very difficult with a clamp round the front wheel. Was not going to break the clamp and break any law concerning DVLA man law of theirs.It threatens and warns DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REMOVE THE CLAMP AS IT WILL LEAD TO PROSECUTION DVLA. It does not say you cannot remove car with clamp intact.Was not prepared to leave my property on a road 20 minutes away from my house.It was after 5 days and nobody contacted me or was visited by the heavys. So I learnt to pick the lock and removed the clamp with any damage.The clamp is in my garage if DVLA wish to have their umbilical cord back. Further more when I taxed the car I had to start the tax from the 1st day of the month which the clampers had placed the clamp after the car in theory was legally taxed.My advice is don't give in to theft threats ect made by the DVLA but find a way to beat them legally. I did and looks like I have.
You say he is a victim, but how ?,
The way I see it is, he had no tax prior to being clamped and had been using it on the road illegally, also automatic renewal of tax is by direct debit and if a payment fails then the DVLA will send an email on that day informing you they will try again within 4 days of it happening, if it fails again another email is sent permanently cancelling the direct debit, Vehicle clamping for non payment of vehicle tax usually happens after a fine of £80 has been sent to your address and it has not been paid so he must of been aware , unless of course he doesn't check his emails and post, in this day and age I think the majority of us check emails daily on our smart phones and have post delivered daily.
@@builderboyish
He stated he was unaware his vehicle wasn't taxed. Are you saying he's a liar ?.
FFS just take it for what it is instead of bolting shit on.
Unless you are a Car Clamper yourself....
A message to BB which I think I must answer for everybody. First BB are you a Clamper or even worst DVLA? Would you like your clamp back? My suggestion is to play and watch the whole video and listen to what this VICTIM actually says. Lets not forget this man is too busy looking after real CRIMNALS. Furthermore your information is incorrect. DVLA send out a SORN letter before tax runs out. As for e.mails from DVLA are you having a laugh. Try contacting DVLA is an impossibilitiy. They have no time to be personal with anyone.Myself renew my car tax through the POST OFFICE simply because I don't have a bank account. DD is a choice.I find it more difficult to remember when my tax is due since they abolished the tax disc. How convenient is that for DVLA. Further more the clamper trespassed on PRIVATE PROPERTY. He has not been given permission to act illegally on someone's PRIVATE LAND. Where do you come up with a statement saying the car has been illegally driven on the roads. The car was parked on PRIVATE PROPERTY therefore was not on the Public Highway.This gentleman actually was so gentle and tried everything to solve the situation. He actually behaved professionally unlike the clamper who works in the public eye. He is certainly a VICTIM of verbal abuse. As the Policeman stated would you like to press charges against the clamper. To which he replied no. Verbal Abuse is a criminal offence, the highway taxation does not come under criminal law. AMEN
@@warwickhunt4968 you certainly on my wave length. I would go further and say it could even be DVLA themselves.
@@builderboyish email should not be relied upon. Email is (was) my job for many years, I've been developing messaging and mailing systems since before most of you had heard of the internet. Email is not a reliable form of communication, there are too many ways for it to go wrong, there's no end-to-end verification, messages get eaten by spam filters (because 99% of mail admins can't run a spam filter right), or get lost in mountains of spam in the user's spambox. I could make email as reliable as they wish it was, many mail admins know how, but that would require every mail admin in the world to change to a new system in lockstep with each other, so it'll never happen.
secondly, the government can't send postal mail right to save their lives, I've had appointments sent by government departments where the date on the postmark was 3 weeks after the date on the letter, 2 weeks after the appointment, and I've had that same cock-up 5 times in a row until I had to ask my member of parliament to sort out the ensuing mess for me.
I'd agree with you if the chosen methods of communication were a little more reliable. They should use SMS, and use return receipts or whatever the SMS world calls them to verify that a message has been delivered to a set of eyeballs not just delivered to a phone. If they can afford to employ someone to stick clamps on why can't they employ someone to hand-deliver a printed version of the message to the home address of anyone who fails to open the SMS version of the message?
The facts are that the objective isn't to ensure you pay in the first place, it's to extort you when you don't pay, and anything which helps you to not pay is a good thing from their viewpoint because then they get to demand large amounts of money with menaces.
Very calm and collected, wish the whole scene was filmed. Ex military?
As he was illegally parked in your car park, I'd have paid the release fee. Then charged him double the amount to release his vehicle.
nothing to feel guilty for re not paying your tax. a similar thing happened to me 3 years ago, taxed it on-line with the promise of auto-renew every year. 13 months later got a letter from DVLA saying i had been fined £60 for neither renewing or declaring a sorn. i checked back and found that indeed my tax had not been taken from my account the previous month. i re-taxed it straight away, it had been parked on the road and driven over the course of the untaxed period so i guess i was lucky. wrote back disputing the fine as i had complied with all of their conditions and it was therefore their fault for not collecting the tax as stated they would. two weeks later got a letter back saying that " under the circumstances, no further action will be taken"
i would press charges, it was also illegal for him to clamp it as its on private property
Wrong. If a car is not taxed or declared SORN, the DVLA will have it clamped as they are a government department.
If the owner of the car park gives dvla permission they can enter the private land and clamp
PhilOffHisTree Why do people comment on matters they evidently know little about? The DVLA can enter private car parks and clamp/fine you, end of.
@@bearing40000 The DVLA CANNOT enter private car parks and clamp/fine you. The DVLA is in Swansea. The employees work in a stuffy office in Swansea! They contract other companies to private clamping services! Why does Joseph comment about mattes he knows nothing about?
is it not freedom of speech??
Clampers are the worst. They always want power over the targets. Clamping needs to be made illegal.
Too right!
In Scotland it is, as it's classed as demanding money with menaces, or something like that.
One of my ex students got clamped and said that 5 large guys and 2 trucks turned up and were quite intimidating. He and his partner were trying to get to their work in a hospital (he works in A & E), but had to find £300 to get unclamped.
They should have taken photos of the guys, and if they ever come into A & E, delay treatment for the same amount of time that they've delayed you (hopefully the fuckers will need it at some point).
@@pineapplepenumbra it's regarded as extortion in Scotland I think? Which of course it is.
You really should have pressed charges. I know he would have if the shoe was on the other foot.
Your a legend, while i do not condone the non taxed vehicle it was an oversight. Your a cool dude very professional unlike the chap from DVLA
thanks pal
I moved house and didn't change where my car was registered so didn't get the reminder. I got clamped n it cost me over 400 in total. The DVLA charged me for a couple of different things and I had to pay to get the clamp off. I'm surprised if u don't get a fine for not having tax on ur car.
They don't like it 'up em' do they Mr Mannering. He sounds like a spoilt brat.
sometimes they do like it up em!
Dominic looks due to visit as an inmate.
An incredible account. I'm not surprised. This is UK . My country🙄
Surly you don't need to be taxed on private ground , a fine for not going SORN may be applicable but clamping on private ground seams illegal to me ?
You need the permission of the land owner.
@@TheGreatPower365 No you don't.
Nice to see a clamper taking defeat with good grace....Nothing less than I would expect from these productive members of society
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Its amazing how government "think" at all levels about revenue and cars,regardless of where you are in the world.
If Dom doesn't want the tickets could I have them instead. I live in Telford so not that far away from Shrewsbury Gaol. I promise I won't call you any names if you decline my request.
Have a nice day Joel.
Give Robert the tickets just for that comment 😹😂😹
@@BackDaws I agree, give Robert free tickets for his comment 👍👍
Or give me them I can bring my class SEMH they’d love it
Properly handled. And gracious. Best way to be. Non of this naa naaa bollox this is life you win some lose some. Just in hes position he aint used to losing. Well done.
agree, high road is always better
100% should have charged him the parking fee
Just to be petty I'd of charged him the private parking fee, and went on to press charges for public antisocial disorder, that would of really pissed him off lol
I was same thought I was taxed automatically and was not. System has gone pear shaped since they don't send remainders in the post anymore.
the clamper sounds like the kind of person that loves his tiny bit of power and likes to get the last word.....and when that was denied him he didnt like it one bit
Good on you disgraceful behaviour by a public employee. You are a gentleman not to have taken further action... the worrying thing is what he is going to do in the future, maybe he should lose his job. Sadly people like that never do learn or change.
There not puplic employees..there contractors working on behalf of dvla...often connected with bailiff companies.
yeah he was employed by a private company working on behalf of the DVLA
You should have put him behind bars till he removed the clamp, they cant win them all can they Lol
he'd be within his rights to get an angle grinder to remove the clamp.. I know that's what I'd have done. Doesn'tmatter if the carwas taxed or not as it was parked on private land.
He was lucky to get a reasonable human being...Let's hope he learnt some compassion.
I doubt he would of learned from that episode, he sounds like the sort of bloke who usually gets enjoyment from clamping people but on this occasion he lost!!
@@markplenty2631 There's not much of a way to help a person with a chip on their shoulder ... it's been with them for years and will likely remain for good ... hence his seeking out such a job along with acting in the way he did in this situation.
We need parking enforcement officers for example ... we need people who ensure that the purchase of road tax is made every year and I'm sure there are many people in these unpopular but necessary positions who are fair. This bloke seemed to want to "win" at all costs. His crude reaction as he drove away said everything about him.
He needs to be fired and perhaps get a job where he doesn't interact with the public. Surely, if his employers watch this video they'll do the right thing and get rid of him.
Ha ha Dom thought you were untouchable........you and I know this will do your head in for ages. Enjoy!!😂
You think... he doesn't earn commission from it, however I would not be sure about that. It is known fact that debt collectors, bailiffs and HCEOs earns commission, it is fact that parking wardens have quotas to meet. So I would not be surprised that DVLA has hired private contractors working either on commission or quotas basis. Yes he has no share of your road tax (some people would say VED is not road tax, but it is), but he certainly gets some share in some way from the release charge - either directly by taking the charge to himself, or indirectly where contract says somethign along the lines of "you have to clamp 500 cars a month to earn agreed bonus" etc.
Sounds to me like D.V.L.A clampers are either on commission or bonus for their illegal activities.
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What a wanker!
this reminds me when my grandad parked up in Asda in a disabled bay, and he opened his door causing his blue badge to be blown off the dashboard
A traffic warden approached him, and said that there was no badge on the dashboard
My grandad picked it up off the ground, the guy seen it, all’s well
Just spotted this and I can only commend you on your calm, polite and appropriate approach. The clampers attitude was unpleasant and unprofessional. I think the officer should have had a polite little word in his shell-like after the verbal abuse episode.
But we didn't see anything of the clamper, and only have Joel's version of events.
"or come on one of our escape events, that'll be even more fun" .. nearly spat me tea out! :-D
I’m glad somebody like you is working in a youth prison that kind of calmness and reason you have is just what those kids need.. a lot of people like you in positions of authority are power hungry ... as a man that grew up in care I’m telling you you are ah asset and I wish you was looking after me rather than the people that just called me a “little shit” as a kid