Why Modern Feminism Is MUCH Worse Than People Think
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Christians, you have been LIED to about masculinity… In this video, Todd Friel discusses the dangers of churches catering to women and soft men, and urges us to embrace biblical masculinity.
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My husband is a new believer....one thing that made him hesitant to go to church is he didn't want to be taught by men less masculine than him (he didn't want to become like them)
1 Kings 2:1-4 1As the time drew near for David to die, he charged his son Solomon, 2“I am about to go the way of all the earth. So be strong and prove yourself a man. 3And keep the charge of the LORD your God to walk in His ways and to keep His statutes, commandments, ordinances, and decrees, as is written in the Law of Moses, so that you may prosper in all you do and wherever you turn, 4and so that the LORD may fulfill His promise to me: ‘If your descendants take heed to walk faithfully before Me with all their heart and soul, you will never fail to have a man on the throne of Israel.’
My mentor is teaching me about the protection my wife has in me as her husband. I think that's where it started for me to step into being a stronger man. she doesn't have to explain herself to anyone now, just say, go talk to my husband. She has that protection in me now.
Feminism, unfortunately, has creeped into the church. We are seeing the results.
Because men regard the opinions of women and listen to them. If a woman is around, men will change who they are.
@@FleshToDust I hope you're not implying that men shouldn't listen to women.
@@denisemayosky1955can you repeat that? I wasn’t listening. 😂
Our church decided to partner with another church that has a woman pastor.... We found another church
@@tamichildofGod8249 Knowing what I do now I would find another church too, a true church of God doesn't have any women who are pastors
One of the problems with this subject is that we seem to have lost our ability to appreciate that masculinity, men come in a variety personality types. Men should not be feminine, but not all men are meant to be loud, brash, flexing and overly assertive. A man can be a "real" man and be a quiet and gentle. We need "real" men across the spectrum of masculinity.
@@James_Hough We especially need the loud, brash, flexing, assertive men in 2024. They are shamed for their righteous traits way more than the quiet and gentle men.
@@hardboard82 We need all types of men.
@@James_Hough What do you think I said?
@@hardboard82 “Loud, brash, flexing, and assertive,” are NOT “righteous traits!”
Where in the world did you get that idea? It certainly wasn’t from the Bible. What you described are immature, macho, manboys.
Try reading 1 CORINTHIANS 13:4-7 for a description of traits that CHRISTIAN men should be striving to cultivate into their lives.
One thing ive noticed is that even when men identify as women they do it in a very masculine way. Like its very clearly a woman from the perspective and mind of a man.
Same for the vice versa.
You cant take the masculinity out of a man no matter how hard you try.
Masculinity is good and needed
Jesus aside, I have heard that Aragorn from Lord of the Rings is the ideal man. A strong warrior willing to run into battle, a leader that everyone is will to follow, yet showing care when he supplied food for the Hobbits, quiet and contemplative when he first saw Boromir, and loving in regards to Arwen. As Ecclesiastes 3:1 says, ...there is a time for everything...
Lift heavy things, eat healthy, stand up straight, be OK with hard physical work, no excuses or complaining ever. Whatever needs to be done, do it NOW.
Exactly!
Eat:
BEEF, BACON, BUTTER & EGGS💪🏼
@@Heidishereandthere Absolutely
👎 NO! Noble does that!
No mention of God.
Theres definitely a lack of masculinity, and the appreciation of masculinity. High Schools back in the day emphasized programs for male students in terms of weight-training and discipline. Its been dumbed down since.
Because, thanks to feminism, it's hard to offer things just for men, that exclude women.
meek - power under control
Power under control doesn’t mean you don’t ever use it or are disinclined to do so.
amen- Christ was meekness Personified! Blessings to you and thank you Wretched
@@al_0014 Yeah, but you also don't overuse or misuse it, either.
this video is so true…we need real and strong men back.
The greatest example of a man is God himself, to hold on to truth , hold those to be accountable, help those in need , demonstrate real love, etc ...
Real and strong men are the ones who bully and start wars. No thanks.
If you're a man, then be that strong man.
If you're a woman, then find a strong man and encourage him.
@@sidwhiting665 Or we can just all do what Jesus said and men and women can both do both of those things.
@@crystalvulpine2314 Amen!! I think the real issue is what makes a "masculine man"? Men should be strong and brave, but they can also be gentle and unafraid of their feelings. Too many times, "masculinity" is seen as synonymous with being an "alpha male jerk". We gotta dump that stereotype. Men can be men, just don't be an overbearing jerk. Like women, character matters. And jerks are just that - jerks!
I feel this. The Lord has revealed how powerful He is to me the past few months. Our Lord is courageous and mighty and a strong tower. I want to be challenged and called to something more. I don’t feel challenged at church. It’s why I’m questioning my own tradition in nondenominational land. I’ve been loving the Presbyterian church I’m attending currently. There’s this reverence for the Lord and His holy word. There’s power in the pastor’s sermons and they are tough to listen to. It’s good to get spiritually roughed up every so often. I’m tired of this palatable and easy to digest Christianity. I want to know what it’s like to be a tough gritty kingdom minded man who loves His Lord and community.
All I hear from churches these days is love, love love love love love love love love love and be very very nice, dont offend anyone just love them.
So is being kind, loving and having self-control less of a man, and displaying my carnality and big biceps more of a man?
We need men and women who will be disciplined in walking in the Fruit of the Spirit every day of their life, not men and women who are carnal and self absorbed. We all know how to boss others around but know little about being a servant.
Love is not a good feeling you have for other people. Love it self sacrifice to the point of death.
"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." -John 15:13
I would say we focus on that. If the method of self sacrifice you are called to requires big biceps, then they are required to be a man. You can only give to others what you have, so you have to develop the physical abilities to serve others.
This is a fantastic overview of the Muscular Christianity movement. My masters thesis to earn an MA in History was about the foundations of Muscular Christianity and what Todd discusses here about the role of industrialization and "overcivilization" is prevalent throughout the literature. Clifford Putney's work that Todd references is the seminal work on MC. My research, however, demonstrates that the origins of MC may have actually begun a little earlier with the mobilization for the Civil War. Through an analysis of sermons delivered in various Northern churches, I found that several ministers were already preaching messages about manliness and patriotic duty. Henry Ward Beecher and Horace Bushnell, I would argue, were two of the first Muscular Christian ministers.
Another interesting thing that I discovered in my research is how throughout the late 1800s, images and descriptions of Jesus transformed from soft and angelic to rugged and masculine.
paul gave the reason for women to be submissive and not to have authority over men in the church when he said because man was created first and the woman was deceived ,deception enters into the church through women because they have no covering due to their disobedience to this command
Right !! And we have pastors now that endorse and ordain women pastors. Can they not read ? Or are they afraid women won’t like them and they won’t get laid ?
Really good. And the man conversing with the other about nail polish - had some great things to say. Courageous - Christlike manhood must be cultivated especially in light of what passes for manhood today. But it’s not a stretch to say wearing nail polish is a sin.
Deuteronomy 22:5
A woman shall not wear man’s clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman’s clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to Yahweh your God.
Nail polish is dressing like a woman.
An abomination is aggravated sin.
Fearlessly speaking truth to the world is Christlike courage.
“Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love.”
1 Corinthians 16:13-14 LSB
Let’s act like men - that’s cultivating Christlike manhood.
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Feminism started with Eve. She wanted be like God. Being worshipped, controlling everything.
And wimpy cowardly men started with Adam, who did not obey God but rather obeyed Eve and gave in to his fleshly desire instead of doing the hard thing. Ge did not fulfill his masculine leadership role, of sacrificing himself in order to save Eve's life. The Second Adam (Jesus) fulfilled the masculine role perfectly.
@@mad4nertz Adam was the primeval simp - seeking to please his woman over His God.
@@DavidNotSolomon That's a wrong interpretation. Adam was no simp or wimp nor Eve a feminist. Eve was decieved while Adam was not. Many people forget that nowhere in the Bible was there any indication that Adam was in any way, shape, or form reluctant to eat the apple, while Eve was reluctant at first.
@@linkskywalker5417 Lot of nuance that might be worth discussing. But would you agree that both Adam and Eve had pride wanting to be as God?
For clarity, what was the deception that Eve believed?
@@linkskywalker5417 Adam was a simp, and Eve was a feminist. She took it upon herself to decide what was good and evil, and Adam willingly followed along with her disobedience when she gave him the fruit. God explicitly sentenced Adam on the grounds that he listened to Eve instead of Him(Gen. 3:17). The direct implication is that Adam willingly followed her into disobedience because he didn't want to lose her.
This is why the Medieval people tried to develop things like Chivalry (regardless of the outcome or origin of the phrase) the point of it’s more romantic iteration is to give an example of a man capable of service in both soft and hard times. “Bold to the enth and meek to the enth”
Sorry, but Chivalry was the foundation that let the feminist movement in. Chivalry is not is a Christian concept - it is about pleasing your lady - even over God. That is the problem the knights often struggled with in the stories of King Arthur - they felt obliged to please their lady -even though what she wanted was evil. It also based its romance on adultery. C.S Lewis discusses all this with his eyes wide open. The bravery and gentlemenlyness is fine, but do not take it all part-and-parcel.
@@DavidNotSolomon if you think the primary purpose of chivalry in the Middle Ages was to placate women I think you’re sorely mistaken. You may be able to say that about the Victorian opinion of it, but I don’t really think that sticks in lieu of it’s origin and ideal practice.
@@DavidNotSolomon Indeed. Be the sort of (and I know this is a rather well known meme at this point, but I actually agree with the point there) advocate for gender equality that takes no drivel from men or women.
@@linkskywalker5417 What is equality though?
The word is so abused that I avoid using it myself. My main issue is that it is often just a way to vent jealousy. That is why it is very important to define what type of equality.
Equal power?
Equal value?
Equal representation?
Equal responsibility?
Equal capability?
Equal human rights?
Equal civil rights?
I think some of these you will find in the Bible and others in the communist manifesto. But today they are get conflated as one word.
This pastor is the only Billy Nye I'll ever need. Praise the lord!
Another timely and excellent video from Todd!!
7:44 men and women are different regardless of the individual actions they take. The way in which men and women approach problems is fundamentally different, and both ways have value.
When men cook, they cook like men. And I think cooking is a valuable skill for any man to have. Hunt then cook your kill. You can do both.
Amen and thank you for expounding on this topic!!!
The other issue is that it's impossible to support even 1 extra person off a single income in the current economy, let alone raise a family.
That's true
How is a "man" suppose to lead his family "spiritually' if he has to work outside the home 40+ hours a week? When does he have time to commune with the LORD? How can he theologically expound on the gospel and the things of God, when once he gets home after a long day he barely has any interest or energy to care to dive deep into spiritual things, let alone lead family worship?
I hear ya, its very difficult! But do you eat? Do you sleep? Do you take a shower? Do you take a dump? Or are you too busy? We NEED to put Bible reading on par with daily necessities, and cut out the extras that dont FEED nor energize us. Im not saying its easy. i struggle balancing it, and many men will admit its a struggle too. i sympathize. But if we dont put GOD first, eventually we will lose the rest. " for man does NOT live by bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of GOD" Deut. 8:3
A man either has to make the time or find a less demanding occupation. God had it recorded in 1 Kin. 1 that the root of the insurrections against David lied in the fact that he didn't do his job in leading his family. He never corrected his children, which led them to become rebellious when they become adults. God has to uphold the entire universe every second and also fulfill His prophecies, and yet He still finds the time to take care of His children's needs.
I like the comedy at the end always Thank you, GOD Bless
The Bible is a wonderful blueprint for how men are meant to be🙏💪
As a single woman with no brothers, I would mean a lot to me to have men in the church take an interest in my welfare, make sure I get home safely, ask me if I have somewhere to go on holidays, etc. This is a major area that the church often overlooks. Perhaps you can use your platform to speak to this.
What are the biblical stipulations in order for you to receive such support?
@@hardboard82 I didn’t say anything about financial support. Just being a brotherly figure in women’s lives.
@@americandropbear5081 My bad, I misread initially. Sorry about that. But you’re a single woman being a brotherly figure?
The men in my church are very good about watching out for the ladies in this manner. Maybe you should look for another church?
@@hardboard82 My comment was about men in the church being brotherly figures to women in the congregation
To compare sides, Islam promotes masculinity. Then the other side has....Joel Osteen. Christianity counts on women to buy books, DVD's of seminars, holy water, other words it's about money. The other religion have their men to lead and the women have their role. No, I'm not a muslim but men have been disenfranchised and it's the churches fault because they place profits over principles and don't want to offend feminism.
Interesting... I agree 👍
Jesus what an extremely Type A personality. He was the Way, the Truth, and the Life. He told his followers you will be challenged and likely martyred for spreading the Gospel. Strong men, all of them.
The reason women outnumbered men in church was because of their nurturing personalities. The natural inclination for teenagers and people in their 20's to walk away from church was already happening in the early 1900's. After marriage, once children were born, women would begin to feel the urge to attend church again for the sake of her children. Men were not as motivated. Therefore, church leaders began to adjust the the church environment in order to encourage wifely attendance, hoping that it would encourage the husbands to attend as well. This environment necessitated a more emotional charged environment prioritizing what made people feel good. They also started to promote an equalization of the roles in the household.
They Apostatized. Period. There is no Excuse for Apostasy!
In families, the wife is often the driving force in the family going to church every Sunday. Since as long as I can remember we went to Sunday School, Sunday morning and Sunday night services as well as Wednesday night. On top of that my brother and I had to go to every activity for kids and teens set up by the church, skate nights, bowling nights, VBS and summer church camp. Thanks, Mom.
Real men love. And let the Bible and Jesus define "love". Mark 12:31. Love your neighbor as yourself. True love for others is having the boldness, the courage, and Godly wisdom to tell them the truth of the gospel. The narrow way. That there is only One way to heaven. Jesus Christ. To confront lies and the liers of false religion spreading deception and leading people astray. The manliest thing one can do is to show the greatest love for others. John 15:13 NASB2020
[13] Greater love has no one than this, that a person will lay down his life for his friends.
A real man will sacrifice EVERYTHING for others to know the truth about what a Christian is and salvation, no matter the cost! It's time to MAN UP, men!
Bible stores has more in it for women. When you look for contents about highlighting and journaling the Bible, you'll see that women are dominating this kind of deep study.
The church that I belong to here in the Philippines is also dominanted with women. When there are Bible studies, only the women attends. It almost seems like, anything related to church is only for women and children.
Even the music ministry in most local churches only have female singers, because it's more "suited" for them; and males are "suited" for instrument playing.
Whatever happened to biblical masculinity? Even in my small world i see that it has deteriorated. I pray for revival, in Jesus' name!
True .
This reminds me much of the book "Why Men Hate Going To Church" by David Murrow.
Outstanding book. I own a few copies.
My 8 year old boy already killed 2 bucks 1 with a crossbow and 1 and an ar15. Both from the ground stalking not from a blind. He has done the murph workout 2 years in a row. He does cattle chores , he bales hay, he competes in pedal tractor pulls. And he just taught his 4 year old sister hownyo ride bike without training wheels. He is already more of a man than most
I am 80. I remember in 1st grade teachers trying to get the boys to act nice like the girls. 😢😢
@@QueerPOCoh my goodness I'm 53 years old and I'm a woman but I can't believe back in the day they did such things I would have never dreamed that they did this stuff it's just awful a man should be a man a woman should be a woman God does not make mistakes a little boy should be a little boy and a little girl should be a little girl and that's it plain and simple
I'm in my late teens to early twenties (won't specify exact age for security reasons) and oh believe me, that's still VERY prevalent at large, that's what I was raised up to be like in school too and I wasn't even public-schooled, I was private Christian schooled the whole way basically and always considered myself "conservative" from the start. And being soft like that actually always came pretty naturally to me and I got rewarded for being like that, and I liked it and often prided myself on being like that and looked down on other boys that were more rough and all with each other as something bad and violent and baffling to me. And that still affects who I am to this day, unfortunately; while ideologically and rationally I grew out of that long ago and think raising boys like that is very bad for them, in terms of manliness I've never yet been truly able to reverse the feminine stunting from being raised like that even if I try, regardless of how many rational arguments I can raise against it as to why it's bad and wrong for boys.
Being soft like this has admittedly led to almost everyone being fond of me and viewing me as like "the sweetest person ever" (their words, not mine), sure, so there's that, but it also has led to me being quite lacking in many ways and not who I should be as a man; personality- and tendencies-wise I'd almost say I'm kind of androgynous, though thankfully still leaning masculine, but I'm definitely not what one would describe as particularly "manly." Sure, I'm still way better in that regard than many others these days, as I've never experienced any "gender confusion" or any of that crap going on now whatsoever and even when growing up like this you couldn't pay me to wear dresses or anything "girly," so that's something to be thankful for, but still, it definitely stunted my proper masculine growth and development. I am still young and hoping I can still reverse more of the effects than I currently have, but still, it's not a good place to start throughout your formative years and being like this in the first place is exactly what makes trying to reverse it so hard to do.
well being mean isn't manly
That is toxic femininity
There's no more Christ in Christianity if the latter seriously thinks being nice is a bad thing
Why not have just a 'ugh' swole masculinity ?
Thats a good goal.
God made us men, self awareness is built into us, via the garden because He saw that we long for love and gentleness.
Lets not stop growth by waving a nagging school marm finger reminding us to be nice before we've even been told we have permission to be masculine.
Jesus wasn't nice, he was honest.
Through that comes self awareness.
The heart of a man is like deep waters.
We create the best poetry, compose the greatest classical symphonies and paintings that envoke beauty. We dont need to be told to be loving, that is already designed in us, but we need to be reminded and not afraid to get fired, speak up and never stop fighting.
Jesus was nice, but also honest. There's a reason he's known as the Lamb of God and tne Lion of Judah.
And even though Santa isn't real, it's clear, based on many interpretations of the Santa mythology, that Santa, although jolly and polite, has some scathing rebukes for naughty children. He either gives them coal or, in some interpretations, nothing.
Never anger a nice person. You never know how what combat abilities some of the nicest people have.
Related to this, God may be longsuffering, but even his patience has its limits. And merciful he may be, if he's angry... You'd better hope... *He ain't angry at you.*
I like the direction you're going lately.
He's almost touching the Third Rail.
I love you, Todd, as always, and you strive to divide the word of truth rightly -and you do a great job...as far as I know. I'm so glad you are on the path you are on.
With that said, no. 'Recent' with an added w like in wretched does not increase the effectiveness of your role in assisting with edification through The Word.
And I really love you, man -Saw a picture of you the other day...aw, nevermind.
Keep up the good work, partner.
So men cooking in the kitchen is not masculine?
Better not tell Gordon Ramsey!
Lol, cooking outdoors on a grill is masculine.
Depends.... as I man, I think every men knows innately when he is being effeminate. Are you talking in a gay voice well frosting a cupcake? Or are you trying to provide the best meal you can for your family?
9:14 A real man would have that bike assembled!
this didn't happen in a vacuum! the roots of this ideology were planted long ago...
Stoicism has long left society.
Its making a comeback
If I may make a confession. I struggle a lot with this. It’s like what’s the point? The Bible says our work are like filthy rags so why try to do anything and there’s also love the world nor the things in it. I get so confused at times because it’s like I really have thought about throwing everything away. I know Christ is the answer to all things. I don’t want a family because that is also part of the world. I’ve gotten to this point where I hate my existence because I sinned before God. So much I feel like a murderer because Christ had to die for me for my disobedience. Yep I still have faith in Christ. It’s all I got to look forward to.
"I don't want a family because that is also part of the world". Did you think about that before you typed it? Aren't you a part of a family? You say you know Christ is the answer but you hate your existence because you sinned before God. Think that through. If Christ is the answer then He can take care of your sin. If you truly have faith in Christ then you shouldn't have such a dilemma.
So many things which befuddle you are because you are not interpreting scripture correctly. You will be set on the correct path if you seek out a solid Christian or good pastor who can easily assure you that you are making this all way more difficult that it actually is.
You're in my Prayers this day Brother.
Don't loose faith, God Bless
@@willowbrook2717 I have. Everything that is of this world is part of this world. I know we were created in God’s image. but we still live in this world to. I question myself about that all the time. am I really saved or am I just deceiving myself. Am I born again or just lying. I feel unworthy for anything. I hate my very existence. And if I say that I want or need something am I not being selfish for wanting that and not trusting in Christ? Isn’t it a sin to want things that doesn’t involve or have to do with the Lord?
@@douglaskaplon2595
I think you are believing a lie that the family is "of the world". Everybody you are reading about in the bible has one. As if Satan could've created something like that. We humans can corrupt any good thing but wishing a family isn't sinfull.
@@kilervgmmm well is it not? We all live in this world. Sinners all we do is give birth to other sinners.
I am Elmer PHD, the heaviest things I should have to lift are a pen and a book.🥴
Not even a fishing rod or a rifle?
Being a man is realizing what needs to be done I’ve seen women raise boys that no woman would ever want. being a man is a burden and doing what needs to be done needs to be viewed as that, women think it’s fun to be in charge like children, it’s not it’s like telling kids not to do the easiest thing because they need a firm hand to guide them. Women don’t actually want to be in charge because that needs to happen not just when times are good but also during emergency name a woman who wants to be in charge during times of hunger and danger it won’t happen.
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Huh? Are you sure about this please about your last point?
@@TiagoGomez-hb9te BOT 🤖
Artistic men and athletic women have always existed. No they're not LGBTQ. However, going to church wasn't seen as "manly." It was up to mothers and grandmothers and not fathers and grandfathers to teach the next generation. How many songs honor mothers and grandmothers? You know where I've found men, Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches. Protestant churches would quote 1 Tim 4:8 out of context of "bodily exercise profits little" became "Don't exercise."
Jesus most likely was a carpenter, working with his hands.
Read "masculine Christianity"... the author addresses this very problem
What happened?
We gave our authority
to the; shining one.
When i think of feminism, i see genesis 3. The devil telling eve, you need to be liberated! The devil hasnt came up with new lies because he doesnt have to. We keep falling for the same ones. Adrian rogers has a good video on RUclips called the four lies of the devil
"attracted to Jesus"
That's an odd turn of phrase, Todd.
Nothing wrong with masculinity unless it leads to pride.
put the pride in the cat's pride litterbox (take note you can buy "pride" anything EXEPT cat litter and cat litter boxes)
Why not just try to get men saved? Maybe that's where we failed men?
Maybe the men are saved, but left church. Men leaving church does not make them unsaved. it means they left the organized church community. Has nothing to do with their salvation.
@@chriscampbell9191 Exactly. We need men in Christian community for it to remain strong and stalwart.
You can't just "get men saved". God is the One who does the saving. Men are supposed to recognize those roles and play those roles. That is part of why they were put here. The human father is a physical type of the Father. Ofc, traditional Christianity doesn't understand anything about this because their world is so focused around a false Jesus that the Father is completely eliminated from their thinking, except when it defend its precious trinity.
Right description, wrong prescription
Empty assertion detected, (opinion) rejected.
@@dited358 Fantastic call! Empty can rattles, see story at 11!
Question to the married men: How do you feel about your wife going to a male gynecologist?
For the married women: How do you feel about your husband helping a woman in distress if you aren’t present with him?
Men in general, in the gut, in their spirit, know they need to be masculine. But they need to be careful lest they fall into machismo - a hyper masculinity which over stresses definite negative traits such as abusing women. Tate is an example of this leaning into Machismo and men like him are a danger to follow. Men need to be leaders. Compassionate leaders, but leaders non-the-less. Strong but not abusive.
Not everybody can walk that tightrope. I've never seen Andrew Tate's vids but from what I understand he just speaks for men's rights and advises men to not roll over and play dead for the whims of the women they meet. 150 years ago, what you describe as 'hyper masculinity' was probably more the norm. What may have checked it was the social graces that were taught to most people at that time -- people were generally raised to respect others, and there was a way of interacting with others that showed a certain amount of respect, and such men who observed those social graces were respected for it, not denigrated as wimps or simps. Etiquette is an example of this. Even poor people learned etiquette. And things like etiquette helped hold the 'hyper masculinity' in check. However, social graces like etiquette no longer are taught, or exist. Those all went into the trashcan along with what was left of chivalry.
@@chriscampbell9191 No, 150 years ago machismo was not the norm. And Tate is a user of people, not a leader. We need masculine men who are neither wimps nor abusers.
@@Mr.Riojas 150 years ago yes, machismo was the norm, when compared to today. Men worked in factories for 12-18 hour days in what would now be considered unsafe conditions; they worked in lumbermills and sawmills (where guys could get maimed or killed); they worked, like my ancestors did, in the iron mines and coal mines where conditions were harsh. They worked 12-18 days every day in the hot sun, farming, or maybe ranching. Men were different back then. If you read some letters or books on the caliber of men (good and bad) during the US Civil War you'll see a completely different attitude towards life than what you see now. Read some history about it. And masculinity does not = abusers. Tate speaks out for a lot of people. Don't like him? Don't watch him. I don't.
@@chriscampbell9191 You don't know what machismo is. I suggest you look it up and better read what what I said as I never said masculinity = abusers. Men are to be masculine and that excludes wimpiness and abuse. Men 150 years ago treated women well and respected their role in society and women respected a man's role. But you do not know what you are talking about if you don't even bother to understand what Machismo is or that what Tate espouses goes beyond being a man to being abusive and disrespecting women.
@@Mr.Riojas Oh, I do know what "machismo" is. The definition in the dictionary (Merriam-Webster's, 11th edition): "A strong sense of masculine pride". American Heritage adds the phrase "including the domination of women." Which can mean anything, depending on who is using the term. Betty Friedan equated the old order of men working at the factory, being leaders in the home and in society, and women raising the kids at home as a form of domination of women, and Friedan also considered the old order as a form of abuse. Definitions often depend on who is using them. What you think is "masculine" the guy down the street might say is "toxic".
As for 150 years ago, men only treated women with more respect back then because of etiquette and social graces, which were taught to children by their parents and grandparents, and those social graces and etiquette were also taught in schools. If any of them are taught today, they are definitely not taught the way they were when my grandfather was in school. Today, young men and boys are not taught to "lead" women. They are taught that men and women are equal. Which they actually are now. We live in the age of equality. It's a different time, a different century.
Today, I wrestled a bear and changed my own diaper. Just furfilling my manly duties. 😂
Here is a pat on the head . . . good boy!
The problem is that we are overly altruistic. Though we should care for others it has become so absurd that we have given up principles for the sake of "caring" (i.e. equality, inclusion).
But the solution is not to become UNcaring. Too many people act as if that's the only way to hold onto your principles. And what's wrong, really, with inclusion and equality? Jesus ministered to all kinds of people. He didn't discriminate. (Actually, I take that back. He *did* discriminate against one group - the hypocritical religious leaders!) All we're called to do is share God's love, not pass judgment as if it's the Great White Throne and we're subbing for God. Those who want the things of God - salvation from sin - will hang around. Those who don't, won't!
@@denisemayosky1955 I partially agree but being overly altruistic leads to the "inclusive " culture we dislike today. The ungodly acts that are continually displayed are all accepted under the guise of caring and inclusion. It is the lack of discrimination with respect to doctrine that gave us a postmodern perspective on morality. Jesus would never accept this kind of inclusion. It's a perversion of his message of repentance.
@@denisemayosky1955the problem is that one of the results of inclusivity is the distortion of what actually constitutes sin. These people are lying on Jesus, who did travel among sinners but who always called them to sin no more. Correction and truth is not judgement, it saves people from Hell.
HOW in the world can you possibly be Overly Altruistic !?
@@adp5R3x what? Wokeism is an inherently an altruistic system (i.e. caring for others). It is overdone by forcing people by law to "care" (DEI in human resource dept., affirmative action, inclusion initiatives, safe spaces on college campus, the equality act, etc. )
I'm not bragging, but it humbles me how much of the Masculinity you're talking about here Jesus gave to me, because I earnestly sought Him. Physically, I was a large, powerful man (6'3", 280lbs). I was confident, but not tyrannical, I knew if I were to marry, I was supposed to rule, but as a Servant-Leader & not to compromise when it came to the Truth.
However, my First Great Love in the early 1990's (I'm 53), was scared because as she told me decades later- 'The Veil Between You and God was so thin, I didn't know how to handle it.' So, she kept flip-flopping between me & her old boyfriend, until I finally had to tell her that while I still loved her, I could not trust her. That ended that relationship.
My Second Great Love in the mid 1990's, was an Ardent Feminist (less charitably I could call her, 'Rabid'), back when I still believed the lie it was about Equality. Because I loved Truth more than her Feelings, she left me, despite God stepping in, in a Blatantly Supernatural Way to offer her correction. She refused that correction & then went completely into Paganism. What I went through with her was a Microcosm of what the entire West is going through now.
My Third Great Love, I met in the late 2007's. And, after vetting her (and her faith) to the point of Paranoia, she finally seemed to be 'perfect' (in a human sense, not ACTUALLY perfect) and we married at the end of 2008.
However, the Impossible Situation, the Nightmare, started instantly, on our wedding night. I had been fighting Chronic Pain due to an unknown cause (a half-dozen doctors in the 90's could not find it), since 1993. My Wife told me before we married, that she could handle it, she loved me. But, whatever was wrong with me, was clearly neurological, as when it came to the bedroom, my body was one step above dead. No passion, no desire could change it, it was like being a car with a broken transmission.
I struggled to the point of a breakdown, but I couldn't get close to what she wanted. In 2014, she said I had 'betrayed' her, and ended all intimacy between us. For some reason, she did not divorce me then, and that had nothing to do with Love. I once asked her if she ever felt like Job's Wife, who told him to- 'Curse God and Die.' Her exact response was- 'I would never say anything THAT cruel to you.'
Now that I am almost totally disabled, she is finally divorcing me. Worse than that however, in her resentment and anger, she has swallowed every Cultural Marxist lie, now saying that Transgenderism, Same-Sex relationships & all of that is perfectly fine. Worst of all, she has said that it was unfair of God to create us unable to make our own Moral Laws and then punish us for not following His. Essentially, she threw the lie of the Serpent in my face, approvingly.
I have kept the Faith, I have not lost Hope and I strive to live in Love, but I am so terrified for her, I can hardly wrap my mind & heart around the idea.
If you haven’t seen any Mr. Rogers documentaries then you may not really know anything about him. Go watch. And then I submit to you that there may be very few in the church. He was an extraordinary man with many talents and a gift of understanding how the mind of a child perceives what they see, hear and think. He was extremely disciplined and focused and an ordained minister. I never watched him. I thought he was some kind of pansy. Until I saw the documentary. People here are talking about his mannerisms but I think if you watch the documentary you would be stunned to find out what kind of a man he was and that you would have to say that you don’t know a single person to compare him to today!
2018 “Won’t You Be My Neighbor” is the title. And there is a very good 2019 movie also based on a true story which is a great watch called:
A Beautiful Day In The Neighborhood
This is a good explanation for how some men (like Andrew Tate) have found Islam more appealing than Christianity.
I wouldnt trust Andrew Tate. he seems to be attracted to Islam so he could HIDE in a Muslim country from western law enforcement. of course he cant say that, he has to say the right words . but he didnt seem to have any interest in it BEFORE he got into legal issues in romania. Take his conversion with a grain of salt.
There is another Christian channel called Zakaria Jallow, could you please give him a shout out?
Keeping the "jelly" in evangelical? Sermon on the mount,or old testament war is the national pastime....
The modern day message that is mainstream appeals only to women … the men in churches are now afraid to refute any doctrine .. the man who does refute is now the OutKast , the women preach now in churches.. I disagree with everything in me .. but I am the OutKast for speaking my mind and not given way to flattery.
Follow the Biblical Jesus, find a Proverbs 31 woman, Eat meat, touch grass, lift weights, shoot guns, make things, break things, fix things, cook things, hunt things.
Christianity is inherently masculine. Anyone who is being weak has not gotten a sufficient grasp of the faith yet
Lol what?
Men are naturally men. We don't need other men to teach us how to be men. God created us as men and its in us to be men naturally.
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but you know, sin gets on the way.
ready for the Lord to come back😊
But, if you want a Godly man, you need a man to come along and guide the younger generation of men in the way they need to go.
@@kpny8484 True, we do need godly men to teach us how to be godly. What we don't need is insecure men try to get other men to live up to some stereotypes to show their manliness. Just don't be feminine and you're good.
@@Republican_Banana True, and we might as well add at this point, is that we need some Godly women to show today's women how to be, because they aren't anywhere close either.
@@Republican_BananaHow do you make a fish understand water? How do you show people what men are when our culture is saturated in sin and feminism and therefore even their "understanding" may be wrong.
Women also need to hear about a masculine Jesus.
I want to know Jesus as the Lion, the Lord, the Great King. I want to hear about His authority and power as well as His gentleness and kindness.
I love that Jesus isn't a pushover; that He didn't chase after the rich young ruler or those disciples who walked away from Him because His hard sayings offended them -- and, in fact, challenged the rest with their thoughts of leaving.
I love to read the OT with the wars and victories and God's swift wrath against disobedience!
But, then, I would love these things because of who my earthly father was: a long-distance trucker with a tough Irish skin who didn't suffer fools gladly!
Well, I can say there has been a hostility to men who joined the military during the 50s and through 80s by the Church, however, there has been an inverse and a near idolization of Service members which is a swing in the wrong direction. As I was a soldier during the 90s and 2000s I didn't have any of the hostility, but my father saw that in the Church when he joined in the 60s all the way through until it was turned around in the 90s. The pacifist movement did not help the Church at all and helped instill some of this feminization of men.
Jesus was literally a pacifist
@@crystalvulpine2314 In what way? Luke 22:36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
Jesus wasn't a pacifist. As well
"So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables."
John 2:15. So please tell me another.
@@Bosniarat24 John is sort of unreliable and very mystic. Early oral tradition agreed that he did not literally use a whip. The synoptics are more historical and they include this episode without the whip.
Luke 22:36 is clearly a saying. He said to turn the other cheek.
@crystalvulpine2314 Let me guess "from a certain point of view", huh. Where did you get your idea that John was unreliable? The Quran?
@@Bosniarat24 The fact that it just doesn't line up with the synoptics, which are clearly more reliable (other than Matthew's rampant Judaizing distortions and a few minor details of the others). The only thing that sets it apart from any other weird gospel floating around is that it was lucky to be chosen at the Council of Rome in 382 AD.
John clearly revised a lot of information for the sake of storytelling. This isn't always bad, but you can't take it entirely literally then.
perhaps part of it goes back to the beginning where Eve was deceived however Adam was just plain defiant.
Those are not the traits of a man read the meditations of Man Hood by Charles Spurgeon
Define masculinity,,define strong,,define what a man should be,,a man does not need to be mean to be a man
Why do you leap to mean. Who said men need to be mean? I think you may have been programmed to associate masculine traits with sinful ones.
The Bible perfectly describes what it means to be a man. Jesus was a tough strong man and he ordered that men should love their wives like Christ loves the church and he ordered wives to submit to their husbands.
@danno14 the area I live good example are the youth sports coaches ,one of my grand kids was degraded in front of everyone, that kid no longer plays organized sports ,the excuse given was that the coach is tough and his teams win alot,I saw a 10 year old who was forced by a coach to run around that field waving his hands in the air yelling I am a panzy,some of the people I work with who came from this environment equate tough with mean
@@user-jr2mk7mw5wit sounds like some people are willing to accept bad behavior if they believe it gets desirable results. That is common in sports. Still, my point stands. The current culture has cast negative aspersions on masculinity to the extent that we jump right to abuse when discussing the issue. When a man is degrading a child he is not being manly rather sinful.
@danno14 that is why I began my original post with,define masculinity, define strong,define what a man should be,our society needs to define the terms or give examples of the terms
Paul as the major contributer of books in the cannon, is rumored to not like women. Christianity is a woman's religion and Jesus is that false prophet from Deuteronomy chapter 13.
He was referring to the pagan deities of the nations they conquered. The Jews were waiting for a Messiah, and Jesus fulfilled ALL the scriptures describing what this Messiah would be. If it wasnt for Christianity, there would be NO Israel now! For the pagan nations would have no concern for a jewish homeland.
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Todd, that is not funny. Hell is a real place and, unless you have 'rivers of living water bubbling up inside of you,' you won't make it.
Try to lighten up, skippy! We KNOW Hell is a real place and we are trying to keep people from going there. But if you always breath FIRE in people's faces, you push them closer to hell rather than closer to Heaven! 'A little bit of sugar helps the medicine go down'.
Watch Warrior Poet on here. He has come the closest to presenting a balanced critique on biblical masculinity and biblical feminist.
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Bc the younger generation of males care more about how they dress and walk around with their lattes
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Christian men should not be loud, obnoxious, macho, a-holes either! Which is exactly what we’re seeing, cropping up in the Body Of Christ here of late. Christian men should not judge their spirituality by the size of the tires on their monster trucks. And you know what they say about men with large tires on their monster trucks....📏
@@jeffreypaulross9767 long legs for getting into the trucks
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This is not a "man."
So... I guess I should start bringing my broadsword and mead flagon to church?
C'mon. What kind of church are you going to? My church is plenty manly. Maybe you need to find a manlier church.... whatever that means. *shrugs
I think one of the best passages you can point young men to is our calling to "love your wives as Christ loved the church, and gave himself for her." Men are called to die, if necessary, to protect our wives. But that "dying" can also be dying to selfishness, laziness, pleasure-seeking, etc. Mortifying the sins of the flesh isn't easy, and that should be part of every Christian man's battle.
"Love your wives as Christ loved the church"
Enjoy telling that passage to single adult men who have no chance of getting married, not now or ever.
@@cameraredeye3115The godly women are out there. And there more efforts to connect them now to eligible men.
@@SM12397 No, there aren't, in most churches. This is one reason men are leaving church, even the LDS church has men leaving. Because there are no efforts to connect 'godly women' with them.
As for "dying for your wife", funny how the instructions to the wives are never preached. In all the years I went to church or listened to Christian media, I never heard those verses preached. It's always one sided. Another reason men leave. They see the hypocrisy in the teachings.
@@chriscampbell9191 Unfortunately, I didn't say in most churches. I just said there were more efforts, which there are. Find yourself a solid, reformed church or utilize a site like Dominion Dating where people are working to connect, and then change where you are or move to where solid churches are that are doing this.
@@chriscampbell9191 My reply's not here. I didn't say most churches did, but some are. Find a good Reformed church or utilize a dating site like Dominion. Find churches looking for godly singles and reach out.
Perhaps your own ridiculing at timestamp 10:38 is actually part of the problem. You call men to bravery and still downplay male-specific traits. What woman should do that? Why mock a man for doing something manly? Yes men can and should change diapers, but emphasizing that falls way too short when that is also a more feminine duty. It sounds like you haven’t taken this far enough still.
I agree. The church has finally recognized its failure in allowing feminism thru its doors and the problems it has caused. However, many are still not acknowledging the roles of man/women and how it is rooted in our sex. Both in and outside the church. Yes, a man can change diapers, just as we see women serving in law enforcement. But that does not make it appropriate, nor does it represent that persons nature per God's design.
@@Twitz88Well I also don’t think women should be in law enforcement or military based on Deuteronomy 22:5, but we’re still mostly in agreement haha. There are other masculine activities women can (and occasionally should) partake in.
@hardboard82 what activities are those?
@@Twitz88 Plenty of examples to choose from but here’s just a couple. While physical fighting is generally a more masculine activity, women (like men) should train for self defense and protection of children. Even knowing how to shoot a gun in the case of a home invasion would be a great skill for women.
@@hardboard82 Not sure what happened to my first comment but yes i agree. Self defense should be a priority for both men and women. Thanks for the example
Once again, this dude has no idea what he is talking about. Jesus loves the meek and kind-hearted.
Meek doesn't mean wuss. It means allowing your will to be controlled by God ( the powerful horse allows the driver to control it by the bit in his mouth). Kind-hearted means being willing to say the hard things that address sin. The kindest thing you can do is biblically address brothers sin. Iron sharpens iron. Weak men are destroying us.
Yes, Jesus loves the meek and the kind-hearted, but meek weak. Kindness weak.
Meekness is about controlling the power you have, so it can be used at the appropriate time and circumstance. A good synonym for meek would be humility, which was one of the most desirable traits in the knights of old. The Code of Chivalry was designed to teach warlike men how to control their violent talents and put them in service of those who are weak and defenseless.
Kindness is shown by using our strengths to help those in need. To bear up under tough circumstances. Anyone can be kind when life is easy and there's plenty to go around. But it takes true kindness for a man to say, "I will toil as hard as I must so that my family may prosper."
@@goforsco Kind-hearted doesn't mean beating people up
@@denisemayosky1955 So if a man was attacking you, we should stand by and let him finish? do you think before you speak?
1. What you're suggesting is that gender is culturally and socially defined, ie. painting one's nails makes one a woman and hunting a wild boar with your bare hands makes you a man. Is that not the same sexist nonsense behind gender ideology? In fact, it IS gender ideology, you've gone full circle.
2. Everything you said boils down to, "Don't do everything Jesus says, instead men do some things and women do some other things. Men, don't be loving or caring. Women, don't be strong or brave." No, everyone should do everything Jesus says. Yet "Christians" are now forbidding people from doing so in the name of preserving gender roles! Also, "Biblical masculinity/feminity" is a completely made-up concept; that it even exists is a false presumption you're sneaking in.
3. You should remove "Christian" from the title, because all your sources are random quotes from around the 20th century which have nothing to do with Christianity beyond the mere observation that women attend church more than men.
Christian gender roles are clear from reading OT and especially NT Scripture, and men and women clearly have different roles in Christian family life and in church operations. In the family, Paul stated that Christ is the head of the man, man is the head of the woman, father and mother are the head of the children, most of those instructions written down by the Apostles, who knew Jesus or were otherwise instructed by him.
@@chriscampbell9191 That's the only example you can give, and it's flat-out wrong or else Jesus only died for men and women can only be saved through men.
@@crystalvulpine2314 If you've actually read the NT, you'd understand that the verses I alluded to deal with roles in the family and in the church, and have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with any individual's salvation, be they male or female.
@@chriscampbell9191 It says that the head of man is God, and the head of woman is man. Now, it seems to be alluding to the Genesis story in a bizarre attempt to argue that angels are attracted to women. But taking it the way you do, the only conclusion is that only men are to follow God, and women are to follow men.
No where near as funny as Our Father, but good try
This video is really overthinking it and very paranoid. Where is masculinity being lost? The economy is brutal on young people. It's easier for sexual harassment to be called out. Somehow that is turning men into what exactly? Todd doesn't look like he could last long in a brawl.
Most young men today are still living with their parents playing video games all day with soft hands that have never done hard work.
@@dd41283 Don't know about "most." Where is the data that back up that claim? What about the ones studying computer engineering or political science? They will also have "soft hands." We're not living in the colonial era here.
@@dd41283 This is such an old meme! Do you have anything better? Please dont make me agree with lawrence because all you have is clownish statements! ugh Are they simps too? Asking for a friend