Doesn’t help when the “modern” writers discard the source material & just write about their lives like RoP, She Hulk, Willow, and most fantasy genres today
Can't write men, can't write women, can't write people..... Can't write humor, can't write good wholesome messages... Basically modern movies suck because investors are telling Disney, Netflix, HBO Max and the rest to hire writers and directors based on their tweets, not on skills or experience.
EXCUSE ME....EXCUSE ME, SIR! How else do you expect US to do the gr3atres3t, if we, at vanguard, state street and black rock and our overlord from the WEF/davos doesn't guide Disney, Netflix and HBO Max to the right way of things, like agenda 2o3o....y'all didn't even the shot, so we can't even do the Georgia Guildstones. what do you want US to do, dammit?
if the investors are woke then they want a woke project, no investor is going to risk money on something they think might fail unless they need a huge tax right off.
Seeing that quote from Feige where the entire character of Doctor Strange was reduced down to simply "white male" really exemplifies the problems with the current creative scene. Writers genuinely seem to care more about the race and gender of a character than any of their other traits.
Yea, just like I don't deduce Benedict Cumberbatch is a terrible actor because of his attempt (or lack thereof) of a Boston accent in Black Mass. He's a pretty good actor, but christ that was bad.
I hate that he said Its so dumb but still i don't believe that it was a story reason why he didn't appear We know the Pandemic messed up almost every MCU movie and series The finale of WandaVision felt rushed and like many plot points weren't resolved
As a woman I don’t think a lot of chronically online women are being genuine when they pretend heroic empowered male leads aren’t a thrill to watch Yeah it’s good to get some badass women - every girl I know liked Kim Possible and Tomb Raider and Hermione as a kid but making the men suck doesn’t make me happy at all
@@maenad1231 exactly! You don’t have to push the male characters down for the female characters to be good….they can _all_ be good It makes me seriously question the ability of modern writers…if you can’t make your female character look great without turning the men around her into buffoons then you’re a poor writer!
That is certainly part of it. The need to tear down the other characters is petty and vindictive, and comes across that way. The other side though is "the message" the writing comes across as preachy and cultish propaganda, because it IS. These writers are not expressing thoughts or stories, they are expressing the party line.
@@vidard9863 Well said by all 3 of you. But also notice when super heroes are gender changed in the name of 'equality' the villain often remains male. Shouldn't the villain also be female? What happened to 'equality?'
The stereotype plans into the moral high ground by them blocking any stereotypes of them while stereotypes us gives them the moral high ground advantage.
The weird thing is that modern writers hate men but create female characters with all the stereotypes and tropes of strong male characters....so strange and weird. There's also nothing wrong with feminine women, in fact feminine women are possibly more powerful than masculine men as one requires brute strength while the others require mental finesse.
I'm shocked to learn that people who went straight from their parents' suburban mansions to Ivy League schools and then into a coveted job writing scripts don't know anything about men, about women, about life. Who could've seen that coming?
Do you really think that's what's happening here? I think it's far more likely that the powers that be are purposely destroying masculinity in film by making the movies bad on purpose.
“You can’t have male mentors teaching women anything of value.” I actually love that you addressed this, growing up as a girl all of my on-screen heroes were men. Not because I disliked the women or that they were underrepresented, but I preferred the stoicism you’re talking about. I also watched chick-flicks with my mum of course and loved the feeling of being accepted simply because of belonging to the ‘girls club’ and female solidarity, but that felt more like learning social responsibility whereas I formed my individual sense of responsibility from what I saw from men on-screen and my dad. Who I am as a person today, and my work ethic and how I interact with others, are influenced by both genders, this modern idea that one side only is valid is equal to cutting off a leg and saying you prefer to be unbalanced instead of whole
You mention you had a good dad, that's why you're not with the movement. My theory is most of the craziness is coming from people who didn't have a dad, who grew up with a single mother who taught them that men are trash, that their dad was a deadbeat and good riddance. Unfortunately we're continuing to trend in that direction where there are more kids growing up without a dad. Marriage rates are going down but women are still going to have babies. Men are increasingly considered unnecessary.
There are some great chick flicks. When Harry met sally, sleepless in Seattle. Ghost, dirty dancing. A good film is a good film. I’m a 40 year old 6’9” hairy dude. I watch Sex in the city once every 2 years. Miranda really resonates with me. A single parent with a high stress job. The person who said men can’t identify with a female character recently, can’t remember who it was, has obviously never asked any men.
@@sup9542 that’s the scariest thing, not necessarily. I do think that people without a dad or even a good male role model fall victim to these shenanigans, but my (older) siblings have as well. Although I will say that they got snagged up *after* cutting off our dad for how he voted, so that’s an interesting correlation for sure, that I never really thought about before
@@mrmagoo-i2l oh wow, it’s so cool to hear this! I never really heard much growing up about men relating to women characters, so I didn’t think about it in my original comment, but you’re totally right. That director clearly forgets that men throughout history have praised and acknowledged women many times as inspirational
James Bond is dead, Indiana Jones is now a frail weak frightened confused old man who just wants to die, Luke Skywalker became grumpy old drunk who just wanted to die, Is it me or is there a trend forming here ,
When a character is stoic, it makes their emotional outbursts that much more impactful. If Captain Hero Man is shown to be stoic in almost every situation, but weep at his mother's grave, we know something important about him. If he cries at everything, who cares if he weeps at his mother's grave. He cried because a kitten meowed
It’s the reason why the ending to Schindler’s List was so impactful. He earned that emotional scene after all that had happened. “Why did I keep this car, I could’ve saved ten more lives.”
It reminds me to Brendan Fraser in the Bedazzled remake, where one of his multiple characters was an overly sensitive and emotional man that was crying for everything.😭😭😭
Yes, this point resonates with me a lot. A great example for this is First Blood. Rambo endures everything thrown at him while the movie makes it clear he's having severe PTSD attacks but only at the end he finally breaks down emotionally, which is one of the biggest emotional payoffs in cinema.
The game Watch Dogs had a classic stoic male character which critics called as generic, but was more memorable than anything the series has done since. Watch Dogs 2 had a forgettable hipster type.
When they constantly feel the need to make male characters look bad in order for the female characters to look good, do they not realise that it's really a sign of insecurity & weakness. Genuinely strong women can stand with men & have no desire to be against them like this. It's also a terrible message to send for both men & women.
Their idea of a strong woman is weird as well. Theyre not annoying and going out of their way to be little the men around them. My boss is a woman and she has no need to belittle any of the men around her and she is well respected as someone who is calm and collected. Assertive when needed to be. Also lets us do our jobs with out constant check ins or displays of power.
@@hungryowl1559 check out women in ground construction jobs. Well loved because of their relative femininity but also capability to pull her load in ways alternate to physical strength. starting out however, they're the butt end of 101 sexual jokes, which if they take well, they become part of the camaraderie
I mean… you do have to change all 4 tires at once if the spare ones you have/buy dont match the size of the good ones cause the spare will destroy your diferential… just saying.
I'm a single dad and I home school my son and I found a group of mainly women who do the same and we get the kids together about twice a week and do it together. We where just chatting one day and the topic of movies came up and I was genuinely surprised when pretty much all the women in our group made the same complaints about men in movies and how they where just sick and tired of the, in their words " absolute stupidity of the female characters being so over powered and the men having to be so weak to make them look good". I took my son to see Maverick and he loved it, when we did the next group event my son went on and on about it to the other kids, the Mums thought it would be good to take their kids and invited us as well and they all loved it.
Not surprised to see that people who home school their kids would agree on this. Typically people home school because they do not like the school systems or what is being taught in school, so they are already more aware of these problems than most. Glad to see though, more people who notice, the more the push back will begin. I don't know if you are in the US, I suppose the 'mums' part of your comment makes me want to clarify that, but since Trump has been kicked out and everyone isn't hysterically fight each other politically, a lot of the moderates that were so upset with Trump have also begun to see the cultural shifts being pushed by the progressive left. A natural push back is starting to happen, though not as forceful as it needs to be yet.
Real women love strong men. It's natural. Men are there to protect women, children, the family and society. And we women know when we're presented with phony female heroes who couldn't really do any of the things they're shown doing. Like "Lady" Thor. Such a load of crap.
Can you imagine prime Newman, Redford, McQueen, Eastwood and Gibson existing in hollywood today. No I can't either because they'd never be given a single role, the millions of morons today would be offended by everything they represented. Chris Hemsworth and pals AKA the watered down versions of those fuckin legends will also go extinct one day because of how offended by masculinity "modern audience's" now are.
Back when I used to reddit, I made a post asking people what would they say if they had to convince someone to come here and be their kid? The catch was, whatever was omitted was sure to happen. Surprise surprise, no one had shit to say. It's crazy because there's this subreddit about the earth being a prison planet and even with that perspective people were still saying they'd have kids. It was remarkably unbelievable. I'm like "why would you bring people to prison on purpose?" Makes no sense. I understand not having come to that awareness yet, but once you do...how in tf can you justify cursing someone?? They'd say "it's better we have the kids so we can tell them the truth about this prison planet" and I'd say "so you're going to bring someone to prison just so you can tell them they're in prison? How about don't bring them to prison at all?" People kill me. Selfish desires apparently override sensibility; nothing new under the sun, I guess. '#[]
It's not that masculine women are bad is that a lot of masucline women take it overboard and be too argumentative, combative, nonagreeable. What man would want that? none! Most men a long day at work when I come to a nice warming loving wife not some argumentative woman.
@@yung829 If they want to write women like that, no problem, my problem is with the double standard of chatising men for certain characteristics and praising the same ones when it's on a woman. If being angry and agressive is bad on a man, the same should be aplied to women, at least make the effort to be consistent on your views.
This video summarizes why "Top Gun Maverick" did extremely well at the box office. People were yearning for a strong, male lead with all the traditional throwback hero values, so this movie provided them with those.
It also genuinely felt like a story actually waiting to be told, rather than a shoehorned shitty sequel that's really just a retcon of the whole series to bring the spotlight on an unlikable wahman cuz how dare the main lead be a guy. You could logically see the story of TG2 carry over from the original, a major dynamic being letting go of historical baggage respectfully and making amends in the present with his deceased buddy's son.
@@Honkiavelli I mean this is a video whining about how men aren’t stoic anymore, as if that’s like an attack on men… which is pretty ironic, because that comes off as whining to me
I think one of my favorite scenes ever came from the first X-Men movies when Wolverine is just talking to Rogue in the car. She asks if it hurts when he pops his claws out, and he doesn’t go any further than saying “every time”. I like the simple and short responses, followed by the brief bits of silence in films. Let’s them linger.
This is something I realised when first watching Star Wars 7. I was enraged by how bad and badly copied the movie was from the original, but I was also unsure if I may not have been fooled by my fond memories. So after getting home frome the theatre, I rewatched Part 4, and boy what a contrast. Lucas in his day managed to convey so much more by doing so much less.
I was gonna say "Bryan Singer may be persona non grata..." But maybe that little moment that stuck with you is all thanks to David Hayter X-Men sounds nice (perhaps they won't even call it that anymore as it's "non-inclusive") I really hope they don't hijack that franchise just to keep us even more divided Stay vigilant, treasure your loved ones, be ready to let go and all that...
That's not just a male acting thing, that's a movie thing in of itself. A mix of creative visual storytelling and solid acting to immerse yourself in that situation. If Logan just spilled every detail nonchalantly, then the potential for your audience to be intrigued diminishes. Men in general have this natural mastery to physical storytelling, and that they can convey a lot of information just with a few gestures and subtle expressions with little to no words. Just look at Sean Connery's James Bond to study on how a true *actor* portrays a suave, capable, and calculating man just with a few scenes of witty dialogue. Key word: *act.* He acts like a man, talks like a man, and thinks like a man. That's why when I see decent male actors act like immature, insecure dolts in media, I see it as a waste of talent.
I've been noticing this for about 10 years now and every time I bring it up to my family they get on my case and call me sexist. It's getting ridiculous.
"Sexist" - as an eastern-european, I literally never heard a person with brain using this word. Even if we were mocking females for something they just called us jerk and we all laugh.
@Gregor Gerzson Eastern European here. I've mocked the media and normies used that word to describe them every time they complained about female struggles while completely ignoring or denying male struggles
In the summer of 2022, I had a call with an editor to publish a manuscript I’d written; the meeting went very well and it looked as if I’d be made an offer, then she pulled a fast one, her complaint moving forward were in two parts: one, the manuscript was too masculine. Second, if I wanted to move forward towards an offer, most of those toxic males would need to be adapted so that they represented the LGBTQ. At the time, it was a real low point, but it was also an eye opener. I learned the art truly is in trouble but also who I was in the face of that trouble. I politely declined, the offer never came, I’m still shopping the book around, at the very least I know where I stand. Thank you Mr. Critical Drinker you brilliant beast of intellectually, for reminding me with video essays like this: stay the course.
It shows the rot, and means any publishing house that starts up and keeps such types out is going to do well long term. (Provided they do at least middling level business work.)
In today's age it's easier than ever to self publish your work through amazon. I'd recommend taking the time to research how to do it in a smart way. Also In the Penguin Random House/S&S antitrust trial it was revealed that out of 58,000 trade titles published per year, half of those titles sell fewer than one dozen books. LESS THAN ONE DOZEN. Stop being depressed about this, half of these publishers will go under in the next 5 years, you don't want to be a part of that sinking ship.
Top Gun: Maverick being the highest gross of 2022 is really quite telling with regards to this. Its one of the few "Decades later remakes" where it feels like the writers actually liked the original movie and character and wanted to explore that more, as opposed to wanting to tear them down and destroy them for the audacity of being more popular than modern crap.
I think Tom Cruise only accepts roles where the same plot structure is: 1. Toms character is damn good at whatever he is, maybe the best. 2. But his ego gets him in trouble and he is almost destroyed. 3. A woman talks some sense into him and builds him back up. 4. Tom returns and wins. Sure there are a few exceptions but this really does explain most of his movies.
I never really like Tom Cruise much, but it's clear from the Top Gun remake that he is aware of what is going on and was determined to resist it. And for that I give him a lot of credit. Many many other A-listers weren't so smart.
This is so true! It's getting to the point that I don't want to watch new shows anymore. I can't stand what filmmakers are doing to male characters and favorite series now.
President Zelensky slumped in a chair next to President Trump, I think hit "max" on the depression scale. Congress had approved the money but Trump refused to disburse it unless Ukraine helped him frame Hunter Biden. And Zelensky refused.
What was well done in that film was the addition of diversity with subtlety. Female and BAME pilots were in the story but they were just all great aviators. Show, don’t tell.
Agreed it was such a breath of fresh air, men dealing with hard times and hard moments but still pushing through finding the strength to be heroic and love, while also being smart for once and outsmarting the enemy. Compared to well…man he’s dumb and sexist where is his woman or diverse set of characters to correct him
In a modern movie, when everyone starts yelling, you know this's are getting serious... In a classic movie, when everyone goes silent, you know the freaking sky's gonna fall down!
@Jack Smith Why are you spamming that comment in multiple places? And can you please give a single example of something the Drinker hated that was actually worth watching?
@Jack Smith Look up the definition of spamming. And from your inability to name one thing the Drinker hated that was worth watching, I take it that you can't name any. I'm beginning to doubt that you've ever watched a Drinker video, rather than just spamming obvious nonsense in the chat.
@@georgebailey8179 Not agreeing with that loser at all but I'm pretty sure drinker didn't like new Tomb Raider movie but I thought it was fun and enjoyable. That's the only instance that I've disagreed with him.
@@joggerman8455 Something can be bad, yet enjoyable. You subjective enjoyment has absolutely nothing to do with the objective quality of something. Nobody will agree if I were to boldly proclaim the lie that the Star Wars Prequels are good movies. But I enjoy the hell out of them. I like all of them. I prefer the originals but never disliked the prequels.
Speaking of Emily Blunt, I believe her husband was an excellent male character in the first A Quiet Place movie. He was a capable patriarch. He led his family. A great father. Intelligent. Resourceful. Brave. And he ultimately sacrificed himself to save his family. A sort of throwback male character.
Unfamiliar with whatever is being referred to about her, hopefully if its bad that Cruise can reel her in for the Edge of Tomorrow sequel they've been working on.
@@pawsomelabrastead9244 I don’t know if it’s Cruise & Blunt’s interaction or some more recent news regarding Blunt, but on the first point- Blunt noted in some form of an interview that Edge of Tomorrow was physically (and probably mentally) exhausting, and the war suit was heavy. In short, she hit a low point on set, said something a bit negative, and Cruise jumped in and basically told her to man up; it caught her off-guard, but she by no means was offended by his comment.
He wasn't, he ignored the little one after he almost got the family killed, both parents allow him to walk at the end when he should have being in the middle of the group, got killed because he didn't have enough tools to distract the monsters
My mom cheats at board games so everybody lost to her each time. You could even play Clue and she would not have shared that she had the wrench in her hand. The you call it and open the envelope and it was the damn rope and she would have a sheepish smile.
I've used the "commercial idiotic male" trope for about well over a decade now as one example of accepted sexism. Usually met with sighs and eye rolls. It was deeply satisfying to hear it pointed out here.
From my experience most people dont notice changes in the media and society and how people view and think about things at all and thinks you are just weird and crazy if you mention that kind of stuff to them. Most people also seems to be completely blind to double standards. Most people seriously only seems to be able to notice and see things if the mainstream media talk about it a lot.
@@CyberLance26 because most people have an average IQ of 60 to 70, an average grade intelegence of 4th grade, and generally dont think for themselves most of the time
Accept and be ready for what I call the "poor baby" response. It will always always happen. Don't fear it, embrace it. You see it gives you license to not give an f about women crying about, whatever women cry about. And let them know it with a big smile on your face. Enthusiastically thank them for their "poor baby".
I've been noticing that since the 90s. Anyone who said anything but praise for misandrist content was branded a "sexist" and ruined. This was before the internet. Few men noticed it, fewer cared and very few were willing to say anything. It was a lonely time to be a red pill dude. Times are better now, far from perfect, but far better. At least now misandry can be pointed out without nearly as much fear of reprisal.
The arch of the modern strong female character: Act I: SFC is unique and badass but no one knows it. Act II: SFC demonstrates how unique and badass she is, without any additional training, failure, or guidance. The conflict is people testing or disregarding her unique badassery. Act III: Everyone learns how uniquely badass SFC is!
Writers who can't connect with the concept of working hard to become good/skilled/respected because everything was given to them based on their intersectionality scores are naturally going to struggle with women having to learn anything. Unless the women are written to be feminine, then they get to learn about feminism.
I remember a James Bond movie where M describes Bond as a dinosaur of a different Era, yet in reality he is exactly what is needed to fix the current crisis. We need that in modern entertainment.
Of course, his recent change in character IS pretty understandable; I mean, you live a life like his, you see and go through the shit he has, after a while it takes a toll.
13:19 My dad has been watching the old Columbo TV show from the 70s, and I gotta say I love the main character because he's just so... average, but in the best possible way. He's no underwear model. He fumbles with things in his pockets. He speaks courteously, even to the main suspects in murder cases. He doesn't have any kind of savant mental powers like most modern day detectives. But it's just so cathartic watching him slowly pick a case apart and expose the criminal.
Picard was one of the saddest. It felt like an utterly different person. From one of the absolute best and most aspirational characters to a doddering old simp
@@xposetruth5681 If Patrick Stewart was tired and bored of playing Picard, he shouldn't have come back to the character. He butchered it because he wanted to do something different without thinking about his responsibility to the legacy of the character. The character just isn't his, several writers made the character what it was.
PATRICK STEWART MADE BAD INVESTMENTS AND LOST A TON OF MONEY HE WAS FACING BANKRUPTCY AT 80 YEARS OLD UNLIKE TRUMP HE COULDN'T GET RUSSIA ISRAEL CHINA NORTH KOREA SAUDI ARABIA DEUTSCHE BANK TO GIVE HIM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
@@fvefve12 They are losing money, disney is making less revenue than before, at least with MCU products when taking into account marketing expenses and inflation. This isn't even mentioning the CEO situation. There have been rumors about big corporations financing "the message", if you believe them to be true or not is up to each individual.
You could've left off "of the 60's/70's". Cause Clint ain't no bitch. He's 90 years old, and can still kick your ass, my ass, and the asses of our best friends.
Aragorn is a fairly modern example of a good male character. He's not a toxic, aggressive stereotype, or a dolt. He's a competent warrior who cares about his comrades, and his lady. You can tell he's introspective, and that living up to his legacy carries emotional weight, but he never whines about it. He, like Frodo, bucks up and carries that burden because that's what OG guys do.
Actually even in the LOTR movies there were some small but significant differences from the source material. For example, in the movies Aragorn whines: 'I'm Isildur's heir, the same weak blood runs in me' and then Arwen comforts him: 'You're Aragorn, not Isildur himself'. In the books, on the other hand, it's Boromir who accuses Aragorn of being Isildur's heir and having his weaknesses, while Aragorn defends himself saying that he's his own man.
@@mikoaj1349 eh? Book Isildur is a hero, who died heroically. It was the movies that made him into: "hearts of men are easily corrupted" Book Aragorn would be proud to be called heir of Isildur.
@@mikoaj1349 thats a bit different, that scene was put there to convey that Arwen was his closest confidant and he was able to talk to her, showing how he is when hes around someone he can open up with kinda i guess. It made him feel more human, we all have doubts. But most men dont share those doubts with the whole world and complain,.
Those writers are energy drink spoiled autistic soy boys who believe steven universe is the peak of what entertainment looks like so obviously they never talked to another human being with an once of sanity
@@thegoodwolf4255 of course you make men less confrontational and less dominant they pose less of a threat to the elite group of men that control the world. 😉
We have a hyperactive, can't sit still for five minutes audience of children now addicted to TikTok and mindless dopamine bullshit. Combine that with an industry that has become all about making money and less about storytellers: you have these movies now. They're not only bad on their own, they're tarnishing their original versions-which they shamelessly remake to begin with.
In 1:35 the reason why they make men seem like that in comercials, is cuz usually its woman that go buy groceries, so those adds r just targeted at woman. You wont see comercial about power tools do that.
As a female, much older than most who have posted here, I have to say, thank you Drinker for your concise and entertaining breakdown of why we all hate modern films and television. As I watch your exceptionally well edited video I am reminded of all the films I have loved so much, the male characters I have endearing emotional attachments to, and how it deeply saddens me by the literal crap I am force fed these days. Watching the demise of Luke Skywalker has been one of the worst cinematic experiences I have ever had. I was a young adult, barely an adult when Star Wars premiered. Same with Alien. Luke Skywalker and Ellen Ripley, true heroes among film science fiction/adventure stories. The turning upside down of expectations and the proliferation of "woke" cinema over the last 15/20 years has taken all the fun out of going to a movie theater. The anticipation of seeing my favorite hero act like a hero has been supplanted by the idea that I need to see a deconstruction of that hero to make me more socially aware of some sort of injustice has completely soured my desire to spend money on Hollywood films. Thanks for the video. I will recommend it on my next podcast.
When i red the Rippley/Skywalker-part, i felt a cold shower running down my spine as i imagined the pure epicness, and adventure, and how those movies felt. Especially at that time 😍 Must have been incredible to watch those for the first time, sitting in a big seat in the cinema, you still dont really know what to await and than the Star-Wars intromusic blasts your ears through your brainstem and the text rolls in. I really envy you for your age.. Greetings from Germany, have a good one
@@metalmayhem3622 luke was a whiney little brat in A New Hope and Mel Gibson cried in almost every 90s movie he was in. Alpacinos whole carer was built on losing his cool and I was there for it all. This channel has become an echo chamber of bullshit.
We're on the cusp of a civilization where machinery proposes to erase concepts of merit and living on ones own terms for a dependent society. Men (though not exclusively) symbolize independence and earned merit. So to make a population docile, those icons would have to be taken out.
@@Ghost_Text Yes, this is the objetive of all this circus. Young, strong, stoic and ambitious males present the biggest danger to the ruling class. Making them weak and submissive is a way to keep power.
It isn't hard to write them at all. Modern society does not consider them toxic at all. An extremely small subset consider that, and these people are in Hollywood and academia pushing their fringe beliefs as if they were fact.
This could also be the reason that John Wick has been successful. Where most men are emotional, John is portrayed as very stoic. He can control a situation with his silence and when he does speak, you usually feel the impact of it. For example, when Vigo has him all tied up in the first movie. When he speaks up, you can hear the raw emotion conveyed in Keanu's voice. John just wanted to be left alone to grieve but it was snatched away from him in the form of Josef killing his dog and stealing his car.
@@nathancawley8759 Yeah, they literally comment on everything I say. Makes me feel like they're targetting me specifically. They've also impersonated other youtubers and commented on my stuff from other videos.
Those movies are getting worse and worse though. Keanu is the type of guy to happily have his character be neutered so women and trans women can take over. He’s very down with that trend.
The concept of a stoic man teaching a toxic boss girl about humblization would be incredibly interesting to watch. I mean think about it, The stoic man executes their actions night perfectly to show how experienced he is at what he does meanwhile the bossgirl keeps ln fumbling on trying to replicate the stoic man slowly realizing she has talents of her own that contributes as well. On topic of the fact that the bossgirl would yell at the stoic man until he simply responds with. "You're not acting like your age y'know." Before the boss girl screams again while the stoic man remains unphased. Would actually watch that.
Isn't that who Critical Drinker is? Anyone who waste this much time on content like this isn't a real man at all. Neck beard rantings of unimportant fictional nerd shit as is that really matters in the real world. Getting all angry over movies, TV shows and videogames is as unmanly as it comes.
This is why I loved Reacher SOOO much. The dude was reserved, smart, and just overall a badass. But he still had emotions that were brought out and used for scenes that were all the more powerful because he wasn’t normally teary eyed or angry.
Another example would be Ethan Hunt from the Mission Impossible movies. He generally does not come off as very stoic most of the time. But when things get serious he puts all his vulnerabilities aside and gets the job done. It also helps than Tom Cruise can pull off characters like Ethan Hunt better than any other actor.
@@LoganDX1990 Yeah I think the Jack Ryan series is decent, better than a lot of crap on nowadays anyway. Reminds me I need to get back to the latest season, forgot I had started it lol.
To be honest, I found "Reacher" to be too Marty Sue. He is exceptionally strong, exceptionally smart, and exceptionally professional. Basically, he is a superman w/o kryptonite vulnerability. "Terminal list" was much better - there was character development, moral choices, and no "superpowers". Just a man who is doing his job and going to the very end if it is needed.
Rocky Balboa in my opinion is one of the best written masculine figure. He can express his fears and insecurities to his wife, he cried when Mick died, and he is capable of being goofy. But when challenges arrives, he never backs down. The Creed Rocky where he didnt want to live anymore is foreshadowed in Rocky V where Mick told him that little by little, an old man's motivation to stay alive disappears. "I never asked you to stop being a woman, so please don't ask me to stop being a man."
Exactly. Hes a real man that asks for support, from his COMPASSIONATE and CARING WIFE. That is a true man. Women are SUPPOSED to be caring, emotionally supportive, compassionate and emotionally reconstructive. Its the Yin and Yang to mens protectively supportive, reassuring, providing and guiding traits.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Adrian is a well written strong female character too. She is able to break free of her insecurities and in turn be the perfect voice of reason when Rocky lost his way. Nowadays, a feminist's idea of a strong woman is someone who can KO men and is masculine, while Adrian is feminine yet very mentally strong.
@@wasabi5338 Adrian is great. Rocky was willing to give it up for her, which was a massive sacrifice for a man who was on the verge of escaping a life of mediocrity. Adrian knew Rocky risked dying, that she could lose him, but she risked that loss because she knew he would be diminished if he didn't fight. Rocky is a series about two heroes, Rocky and Adrian.
Ironically this all began with a push for more open mental health discussion and the expectations of men seen as weak for sharing any emotion. But they exploited it. And it became something completely fallacious
I think Aragorn is a good example of a male character that isn't stoic to the point of being ice cold and not overly emotional either. He can lop the heads off orcs and then sing poetry after.
@@Lighthammer18 Aragorn is an amazing male character, he’s masculine but not macho, he’s brave but not reckless, he’s kind without it being a weakness, he’s a leader but still takes council from others, he’s skilled but realistically so, hes self sacrificing for a greater cause, he’s humble and unsure of himself at times but he grows and steps up to his true role. Fab male character, one of my favourites. I also love Theoden LOTR is full of amazingly written characters
It can be kind of a paradox when your emotionally sensitive as a man, if you have to suppress it to appear stoic then that’s weak you need peoples validation rather than be yourself
I recently watched Oliver Stones 'JFK'.........What a banger of a film that is. Joe Pesci as Dave Ferrie was so good its frightening......."A Triangular crossfire, That's the key, That's the key"
Incredibly depressing to look back at the 2000's (which wasn't too long ago) where constant quality entertainment was just normal and expected, here we are in 2010's/2020's world and you get 2 good things a year and people forget about them in a week
First off: I'm a female. Thank you so much for the video! It made me realise I've been focused too much on a feminine side of view in my story and not think hard about how real men speak and behave. I need to tweak some scenes and change the dialogue, but I do want my story to be good and believable. And there are strong and capable males in there already! I just want to make the best story I can and you make some great points. You have my genuine gratitude!
It’s actually really fun to experiment with body language in writing. Getting the descriptions just right so that your reader can see it, but you aren’t spelling it out like they’re a child is a good challenge. I’ve always been complemented on how my characters communicate in my writing, I just need to form a proper story for them.
@Bass Player Nobody even watches any of the shows you just wrote. And I'm not sure it was a good idea to go on a video trying to defend strong men, and then making a comment about some weird obscure anime about a creep who is a pervert and rapes women. Like seriously man, what's wrong with you?
Hollywood had a China issue. This equity and inclusion movement is very obviously being pushed and funded by the CCP. Just look at every university in the western world. The amount of money the CCP dumps into them says it all.
Spot on, except for the Rocky part. I found the end to Rocky's journey uncomfortably real: Wife died of ovarian cancer. Brother in law was an alcoholic that died from drinking. Son was neglected by his famous boxer dad growing up and now they have a strained relationship. Rocky is left with the sum total of his decisions, and while still beloved by the community as a whole, has lost all of the people he truly loved in his life. At that point, I don't think turning down cancer treatment is that far fetched.
It also gives Rocky his own arc in the film, which I respect. The mentor character is normally just placed in stories to help the hero, without any conflicts of his own. I like that Rocky helps Creed fight, and Creed in return helps Rocky fight.
I had forgotten all that Creed crap. Those films, and Rocky himself, went from trash to mediocre and forgettable so quickly, that it took me a peek to your comment to remind me what had happened in that garbage 🤣🤣🤣
1 theory says if Rocky dealt with his pain properly the cancer will go away. The chemo kills. Healing emotionally cures cancer. The cancer is there to make you understand that or die, is the theory i watched yesterday on bitchute
@@bjrnjohanhumblen1393 the cancer is there because the dna in the cancer cells fail to tell it to stop duplicating. Healing emotionally doesn't get the cancer cells to suddenly change their code. They will still kill you.
Bad ass, I hope you got him to tell you plenty of war stories while he was here. My great uncle was part of the early Navy SEALs ("Frogs" back then), if he were here today I could sit by the fire all day and listen. I did listen and ask questions a bit as a child, but nowhere near what I wish I could have asked now
And the tragedy with Luke is that he was an inspiring character both to females and males. He was caring, thoughtful and put others above himself, he protected his "family", was there for his sister and his friends alike. In other words: He wasn't the typical dominant male who tries to control everything and push everyone in his direction. And then they made him a sad, depressed character who throws his lightsaber behind his back. Well, they COULD have made him a superwise Jedi who has risen above all earthly things and even rejecting his own power in order to achieve enlightment, like some spiritual masters of the real world do. That could have been believable but no, lets make him just weak and boring. And Mark Hamill said that in an interview too, that he did not like the way they portraited him in the new movies at all.
Hahah AN interview? Theres probably like a 15-20 min complitation of hamill saying how much he dislikes disney starwars and his constant warnings to audiences to not get overhyped
Luke should had been like his master obi or yoda or anything in between, but no....... He became a very very sad old man. How is that possible other than pure man hating.
Mark said that he had to play the character as NOT Luke Skywalker, because he couldn't reconcile the two characters in any way. What a surprise that the fans couldn't either.
my favorite part is for someone that wants the jedi to "end" is just randomly hanging out on his island in his jedi master robes. Was he trolling the postman again?
Am a woman and in my opinion I think it all goes down to jealousy.. If we can't be as cool, strong, smart and powerful as men we make them appear less so. Sadly most women don't want to accept the fact that men truly are stronger than us. It all started the day society totally belittled women who are mothers, teachers or lovers and compared them to cool men. They planted this idea in their heads that giving birth to a human being is something not worth mentioning, stay at home wife is lazy and being feminine is weak... The most important thing is to compete with men to prove that we are no less.. who said women are less in the first place?? Idk... Like in every movie the man is fighting for the acceptance of the woman he loves or die protecting her. Never an action hero said "pfft lady why can't you fight?" Modern society made women so confused about their role in life, they expect them to act like men but look like women. It's very exhausting and not aligning with our nature. I know I'll get some hate comments here from ppl but believe me I was one of the girls who believed so strongly in feminism and that career is the priority but never ever I thought about hating all men... Not all men are angels yes and not all women are kind... but that's the point, which is to tell stories about the good men that we would want to look up to.
Sarah Conner was a cool mother who could fight and who didn't need the men around her to be weak to make her strong. Showing men begrudgingly go to work every day to do a boring job isn't fun either. It's the writing that's the problem, not women being empowered.
It's amazing to see that a modern woman actually has the capacity to reflect in this way. My experience whenever I raise these issues with modern Western women is that they fly off the handle. What I find bizarre is that the characteristics that women admire about men - strength, intellect, confidence - are the exact things that they seem to want to destroy. It's an immiserating ideology - everyone loses. My girlfriend is from Latin America and whenever she has met women from my country - UK - she is quite shocked at their behaviour. I'm more repulsed at this point which is why I don't deal with them and haven't done for years.
What’s to hate? Men are physically stronger, just like women are more flexible. Men are genetically designed for different things than women, the issue comes with diminishing the role of either. The complete lack of awareness in modern feminism’… how is belittling mothers, lifting women up?
I've noticed this, too. Even though I'm a woman, I don't like the direction Hollywood is going with portraying men. There are the few exceptions - as you said. It is possible to have a male lead show heart, and still pull off badass action scenes, and show ingenuity and competence. It's in books, too, and that makes me sick. Either the male characters are eunuchs, or they're morally depraved monsters that the female protagonist has to girlboss-defeat. My favorite villains are always the calm, collected ones, because you can see they can control themselves, which lets you know they're fully prepared to be cold-hearted murderers without the need to blow up. Indiana Jones is amazing, and I will always love him. To me, he is one of the greatest action heroes to ever hit the silver screen. It's a fine line to walk these days, but I'm trying.
The terminal is a recent show that showed hollywood what people want, reacher aswell. Both have powerfull male leads and look at the flak it has gotten for that fact - but the viewers was loyal, almost reversing the rotten tomato scores of most crap that has come out lately.
How about men and women working together and being BadAss together like in The Edge of Tomorrow with Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt or Mad Max Fury Road with Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron working together.
A good explanation of why "Top Gun Maverick" was so successful. Audiences were STARVING for a strong male lead in a movie and made the movie a success. Yes, a little more balance here would be nice. Hollywood has become so completely predictable with these "modern rules of Hollywood" that nothing surprises anyone anymore. Here's a great idea of a plot twist in a modern movie.....Have a smart male character that we all like outsmart the evil female villain! Nobody would ever expect it!
First of all it was a good movie I watched the predecessor just a few days before going to the theatre to see the new one and i didn't really care about the character Maybe bc there wasn't really a nostalgia factor for me Still it was a damn good movie and im glad it was such a huge success and i hope future movies take note But i did enjoy Amazons Reacher and The Terminal list And DCs Peacemaker bc of the main character/actor
Don’t forget that Top Gun Maverick also has strong, interesting, well-written female characters too. I really loved that pretty mother and her daughter
Top Gun Maverick is a masterpiece of good filmmaking and storytelling. It truly was a good movie that me and my mom and dad enjoyed and we’ve seen the original as well
Man you nailed it here. Have been seeing this happening for years. Anytime I try to watch a modern movie nowadays I'm left feeling flat and there's always some kind of social agenda they're forcing. Started watching a creature film the other day where a female tracker lead a group of male explorers to a dangerous location. I called it in the first 5 mins. She's going to be the only one to survive - and it was true. So predictable now. 20 years ago, one of these men would have protected her when danger struck - but not today. Can't have a man protecting a woman or that would affect the feminist agenda.
The objective if you haven't noticed is to turn men into women and women into men because it is a hugely lucrative industry for $$$. They expect it to make more money than Hollywood (surgeries, hormone replacement therapy, therapy, legal costs, increased consumer spending etc). None of what you see is by accident, it is all for profit at the expense of people's mental health. And the other obvious reason for all this feminization of men is weaker men are easier to control. The less stoic heroes you have, the more you can exploit them.
Thank you. My generation of boys are just brainwashed and dominated into believing women are always superior. Yet the girls brag about not getting enough recognition. Which makes sad and angry most of the time. Especially when I see boys acting feminine, emotional, whiney, irresponsible.
As long as those boys have a good father, and grandfather. They will be fine. Jordan Peterson is also a really good man that is in the media as well. Of course they try to twist him, but he's to popular for them to bring down now.
And women too. Initially you might think we're lucky because we aren't demonised but it's not a great look to be portrayed as the annoying, cold mary sue gender. Now people will think that every movie with a female lead will automatically suck when it never had to be this way.
Which is why at 19. I stopped watching any new modern movies that have anything to do with Disney superheros or female leads or female action star. I can't unsee the disrespect of male characters. Tv shows have it way worse than movies It's worse than you Think. I have seen young men say self hate thing like self owning or self downing. A lack of confidence is the agenda's real goal in my opinion.
as a girl I couldnt agree more PARTICULARLY about luke's example! the sequels' treatment of him makes me SO FUCKING ANGRY. thanks for making these vids man. you're addressing the most important videos in media rn
I'm writing a screenplay right now, and I swear to god this analysis just put an essential scene into my head, essential dialogue for a male character. Drinker, this was more helpful than a stack of screenwriting books.
Stoicism is not letting emotion control you are not being a emotionless human being this is something a lot of people seem to misunderstand. A lot of modern writers don't seem to get it they seem to think it is "toxic masculinity" when it is just keeping a cool head, and not making irrational decision based on your emotions.
These are my favourite kind of videos that you make. I enjoy your reviews and recommendations but, when you broaden the topic out and discuss the wider problems in the entertainment industry, that's the real slice of fried gold. It's like the reviews are the what and when, and videos like this are the how and why. Always look forward to them dropping and re-watch them often. Big thumbs up.
Growing up without a father, like a lot of kids do, i depended on my TV/movie heroes for role models. I feel bad for this generation of boys who aren't getting that, especially when family is being devalued at the same time.
Back when I used to reddit, I made a post asking people what would they say if they had to convince someone to come here and be their kid? The catch was, whatever was omitted was sure to happen. Surprise surprise, no one had shit to say. It's crazy because there's this subreddit about the earth being a prison planet and even with that perspective people were still saying they'd have kids. It was remarkably unbelievable. I'm like "why would you bring people to prison on purpose?" Makes no sense. I understand not having come to that awareness yet, but once you do...how in tf can you justify cursing someone?? They'd say "it's better we have the kids so we can tell them the truth about this prison planet" and I'd say "so you're going to bring someone to prison just so you can tell them they're in prison? How about don't bring them to prison at all?" People kill me. Selfish desires apparently override sensibility; nothing new under the sun, I guess. '[
@@vcrbetamax Off course it sounds crazy for NPCs to not force kids into this hellhole... I mean who would these bored to death sadists use/exploit and abuse and boss around LEGALLY ? 80+% of the NPCs are exploited/used/abused/bossed around 24/7/365 so they want to have that experience as well... but they can't have that experience legally since if they try to exploit/use/abuse/boss around other people they will get in trouble in a few seconds. The only people who can legally use/abuse/exploit/boss around and murder other people are people with badges-uniforms, white coats, suits-ties, aka the organized criminal syndicate of each region. So the solution the dilemma of not being able to use/abuse/exploit/boss around legally anybody is pump out units into this hellhole, without their consent/permission and have the party of use/abuse/exploitation/bossing around BEGIN. ;-)
My mom, a black woman, despised The Last Jedi because of how they changed Luke. She said ain’t no way a man who went through what he did and succeed in turning his father away from the dark side would give up so easily. She hates Rey mainly because she was like ain’t no way a girl who’s never been trained gonna all of a sudden be better than the greatest Jedi of all time. She said Hollywood can miss her with that b.s. The rise of the skywalker is actually the only Star Wars movie my mom refused to see because of what they did to Luke
@@Joetino she thought it was ok. The main thing she didn’t like was Rey being good at everything , but she didn’t hate it to a point where she wouldn’t continue to watch the series. TLJ was what made her be like “f*** this” I had to convince her to give mandalorian season 1 and 2a chance because she had no more interest with Star Wars, without giving away the Luke bit at the end. She did and enjoyed it so much she watched the final episode twice back to back days. It’s not about the race or gender. It’s about heroes and characters we care about
Obi-Wan Kenobi is the same as is Boba Fett. They have ruined the key characters but let us be honest those new movies are not real Star Wars movies. They are plastic cheap knockoff copies.
@@cat_bag_cat_bag yeah in my area the previews and advertisements made it seem like Finn was going to be the main character. There were billboards and posters of him holding lightsabers. Then the movie starts and I thought they had a cool concept to work with, a defective stormtrooper who may go train under Luke skywalker, but - nah. As soon as Rey and Finn were on screen together I knew what they were gonna do with him. My dad even said Disney was slick (and not in a good way) how they marketed it to make black people think Finn was going to be a bigger character than he was.
Spot on Drinker. Most of us are BEYOND tired of being infantilised, talked down to & patronised for the sake of it - all at the cost of everyone's entertainment.
Exceptionally analytical video from the Drinker. I don't expect anything less. The only critique I disagree with is his argument against Man of Steel and Daniel Craig's Bond. Sure, there was a little bit of the "modern audience" trope in No Time To Die but it was played more for a laugh but I don't think it occurred to an absurd degree in the film. No female character there outmatched him and he was clearly the better and more experienced spy trying desperately to protect the only family he's ever had. In the previous movies he was pretty much the same James Bond we know and love but the one with the most character development. So while I see his points, I also don't think it's as bad as he makes it sound like. Maybe the weakest Bond but not the worst. For the former, Superman was grappling with his place in the world but when he finally steps it up, he does it with strength and in the end defeats the bad guy of the movie while simultaneously saving the world singlel-handedly, he even gets the girl at the end. That overall outcome is actually against the "modern audience" crap we get shoveled in our faces that is in every other franchise now.
That's something I hadn't noticed, but as soon as Drinker started explaining it, it all clicked. A lot of it is in the Marvel formula of wise cracking characters, but it's more broad than just Marvel. You don't see as many Stoic male characters now as you used to - and if there are stoic male characters, they are often the villain.
John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, and Richard Burton wrote the book on stoic males, they perfected the 5 second silent look-on-the-face that says 100 times more than ten minutes of modern whiny dialogue. When actors talked less you paid more attention to when they spoke and it had more impact, now they talk like long-winded politicians that makes you want to drift into a coma.
I don't mind dialogue heavy men. Hell, one of my favorite movies has a lot of dialogue by men. Pulp Fiction. Although funny thing is the most stoic, non talkative charcter, Butch (Bruce Willis) ended up on the winning side. Although you could argue Marsellis was mostly a stoic character as well. Don't mind me, I'm an old fart. Good thing I can go back to all my old movies and not watch this new crap.
@@JimmyMon666 But Tarantino knows how to write conversations and uses silence wisely too. Between men or women. I guess that's the difference, modern writers are too socially inept to write a real conversation between real people.
This applies to real life as well. I am in my mid 40s and have been single most of my life -by choice. I was in the military for over 20 years. Never seemed fair to date long term while being gone etc…. As I go through my life, I see this as I date women now. On a date with a new woman, regardless of her age, If I sit quietly and reflect on a question before I answer, I come across as too slow for her or uncaring because I don’t spit out some pre approved answer. It all boils down to how much I make and how much I am willing to put up with bs and unrealistic expectations. In reality, I just sit there and can tell in moments how much we will be compatible. I pity any man who is just starting out in this world and has to put up with all this stuff. At least I remember how things used to be. Good luck out there.
This issue arose in books too... Mainly the YA genre, targeted for teens, is full of anti-men ideals and even the teen reader community on tiktok or instagram goes out of their way to make content around man-hating female protagonists who outpower their male counterparts in every way, or they make thirst edits around male characters who get dominated by the female protags each scene they're in together. It's honestly disgusting.
You're not wrong, here. I've been reading and collecting the works of a particular Sci-fi/ Fantasy writer for the better part of 35 years. I've truly enjoyed most of his stories, storylines, series, and genres, hence why I collected and kept the books, including tracking down a few autographed copies of my most favourite ones. However; I've noticed in the last decade a tendency to add a bit of wokeness where, to be sincere, it was completely unnecessary to the plot or feeling of the book. It didn't affect things, except to just "be there, because..." . I find that annoying. The additions had no beneficial or detrimental effect on the story/ plot direction at all, so they really shouldn't bother me, right ? Yet they did, because they were so out-of-place in a writing style that has remained solid and very well structured for decades... Why the change ? Did he feel pressured to be inclusive and add these little bits in his stories so that he " was covered" should the Woke Police critique him for not writing with these characters in mind ? I still enjoy his work. That hasn't changed. I just wince when the woke stuff gets interjected... Nearly a half-century of successful writing without this... but now, it's there. Did his style change, or did society change and he reflects it in his work, or did societal pressure force a change...?
+Nameless I don't think what you are saying is true. There are not full of anti-men ideas at all. I would say they are far too woke but to say they are anti-men is just a misrepresentation. My view on this - is we were due a correction - from male-dominated stories for years and years and that we will get a correction to this over-wokeness too
It's why I hate the YA fantasy genre, especially the books touted by bookstagram and booktok: nearly every one of them has a "strong", "badass" female lead who's as interesting as cardboard and falls in love with a male character who's basically just eye candy. It feels like this decade's entire readership is made up of girls who think the only books worth reading (and writing, sadly) are ones that care more about female empowerment and representation than story and it makes me sad.
This is just my opinion, but I think the Hunger Games is a good example of YA fiction with a female lead that doesn't go anti-boys/men. Katniss has flaws and insecurities and she doesn't look down on Peeta, even though she is the one to save him and not the other way around as it was often depicted. Too bad Jenifer Lawrence's comments is all that we think now when we see Katniss on page/screen...
I swear to you, that line from demolition man, were Sylvester Stallone said "put me back in the fridge" is becoming a reality every single day that passes by.
@@juniorm641 tbh it's the only one I disagreed with because Rocky dying makes sense, he lost everybody and feels fulfilled so going out like that is fine to him
The fact that modern writers can't understand just how much was actually being conveyed by the actors in that moment without words is why most of them shouldn't be allowed to call themselves writers. You don't need to explicitly tell the audience every single 'nuance' of your script just to make sure they appreciate how smart you think you are....
IMO the primary difference in modern character writing as it relates to male and female characters is the idea of hubris. A common trope of male characters is they will be overconfident in their abilities and pick a fight they're not properly prepared for. Generally this grants them some revelation as to the value of teamwork, the wisdom of elders. etc., and they use their new knowledge to overcome their failure. The opposite applies to female characters. In general they've had what it takes all along; they just have to get rid of what's been holding them back and really believe in themselves. This almost invariably results in unrelatable female characters that have no character development and don't learn anything substantial.
The entire entertainment industry is suffering from this. It's a mix of what you mentioned and the rise of corporatism and the product no longer being made to please the customer, but to milk the customer of all they got.
People are lacking real world experiences so they have nothing to write about. When you live in an artificial society and can create your own echo chamber without going hungry, you don't have to interact with the world.
I'm glad you mentioned Emily Blunt. I just finished watching The English on Amazon and I'm not sorry I checked it out. Truth be told, given Amazon's recent track record, Emily's speech to Hollywood was the only reason I bothered to watch it in the first place. And I'm glad I did, because it was a smart, mature, well constructed story that I was almost immediately able to get invested in. And she put her money where her mouth was by showing that it's possible to have a strong, smart and resourceful female protagonist who is neither an obnoxious gas bag, nor a complete Mary Sue. AND here's a real shocker: she and her equally strong, smart and resourceful male protagonist succeed by complimenting each other's strengths and weaknesses. AND the male lead protagonist is of an ethnic minority. And I didn't care, because the diversity wasn't shoehorned in where it didn't make any sense for it to be. Imagine writing a story whose focus is on being a good story...
Go and check Edge of Tomorrow. Emily blunt and tom cruise depicting interesting, believable and relatable strong but flawed female and male leads in a fun and yet serious and epic sci-dying action movie. A little gem (also recommended by The Drinker by the way)
@@j.monton8172 it's also funnily enough technically one of the very few good "manga" (forgot if it was a manga or light novel) live action adaptations out there
I kept telling my friends and family that this is what movies are now. They didn't listen at first, then saw how right I was, now they listen to me... figures
I'm 33 year old MAN from Finland! Thank God I'm not 10-15 years younger! I have gay friends and I don't have any problems with gay people in general. What I do have problems with is that many of the things I say and do are considered toxic nowadays. Don't get me wrong.. I couldn't care less but I have a son who's 7 years old! Sometimes it feels like the society expects me to wear him in to a pink dress with fairy wings and force him to play with dolls.. not until hell freezes over!!
I never would've imagined the modern west would've reached this level of absolute self-hatred. All the coolest heroes from my childhood feel so far away now. Thanks for bringing them back even a little bit Drinker.
I’m a girl and the title alone made me say “YES”. These “writers” cannot write men to save their lives. It’s sad to me because men and boys deserve their heroes too. They deserve to be taken seriously and not treated as a joke. 80s and 90s movies were perfect on portraying strong men and women. Writers back then were masters of their craft. Sadly, we have writers who care more about The Message rather than writing an interesting story.
I'm not so sure about this "80's knew strong men" trope; at least not if you take sitcoms into account. In Married ... with children, in ALF and even in The Cosby Show the male protagonists have been kinda jerks, while their wives, even PEggy Bundy, were superior to them and lovingly tolerating their foolishness. Maybe that's where it all started ...
I was thinking about this yesterday. Strong men are hard to find in mainstream movies. A weird thing about nowdays is if I made a joke that "where hav all the good dads gon" bc they'r all jokes, idiots, or submissive, and someone will tell me cool dads are everywhere, using She Hulk as an example...😶 Sorry, how are they not submissive or stupid man? Girls of my gen are doomed.🤦♀️ At least video game men can still be cool
@@Rezzatoni you make a solid point that the 80s family sitcom marks a huge uptick in pathetic make leaders, however 80s movies are without a doubt home to some of the manliest lead characters ever. I mean, basically every actor that had a role in an Expendables movie had their heyday in the 80s.
Owning the conversation by making the other party wait just a little for one's response is an incredibly powerful tool. It is not a form of toxic masculinity, it is just a means of getting a derailing situation back on track again. A problem is meant to be solved, and emotional responses does not solve anything. A level head and rational thoughts solves problems.
Recently watched Clint Eastwood's Dollars Trilogy along with Hang Em High. I am not one for spaghetti westerns, but watching those movies was refreshing for my mind and soul, both as a man, and a regular adult in general. Also have a greater appreciation for actors like Lee Van Cleef. These films may be before our time, but I highly recommend to watch them. Films like A Fistful of Dollars are iconic for a reason.
You don't have to be from a same time as a movie in order to appreciate it. The first time I remember watching the Dollars trilogy I was six years old, and these movies came out more than thirty years before I was born.
Jennene in ghostbusters was part of the subtle jokes in that movie. Rather than micromanage or ignore the competent secretary, they let her do her job. Winston was another multilayer joke: Man applies to help wanted ad, gets hired. That's part of the charm with Ghostbusters, in that it really is the ideal start up. They knew their strengths, but they also knew their weaknesses and were not afraid to delegate. It's such a brilliant story when you look at it.
I think the dynamic between Jennene and the men just emphasised their personalities - They were used to life at the university where they didn't really need to work that hard so they were quite happy for jennene to do all their paperwork and admin (even though they knew that some of it was not really her responsibility).
Actually Winston AND Ernie Hudson got fucked over bigly. Winston wasn't supposed to be just some random. He was supposed to be ex-Air Force. Even an officer if I recall right. Wonder why that was changed....hmmm....
@@marcusalexander7088 Really who says that he wasn't? its been a while but all i can remember about his background in the movie is the "do you believe in ghosts?" "i'll believe anything if theres a paycheck in it.", his previous background is completely irrealivant to the plot of the movie.
@@stevenscott2718 Who says? Ernie Hudson. You think I just pulled that out me arse. HE should know and B)Ex-Air Force is..shall we say..CLASSIER than just being some random who wandered in looking for a job.
@LegendaryPredalien12 •. Basically making her act like a Man than a woman.... what made her "fantastic"? Because there's no difference if instead of her would have been a man acting the same character.
@@luiseduardomurillomartinez did you even watch the movie? She was a soldier who was forced to die possibly thousands of times to win an impossible fight against a damn near unbeatable enemy, she didn't act like a man, she acted like a jaded, brutalized person. What made her great in the movie is she accepted her role as an icon after the battle of Verdun even though she was aware the fight was hopeless, she still tried to fight it to the end like a badass soldier. Really earned the title Full Metal Bitch, just like Vasquez in Aliens was a total goddamn badass.
@@LegendaryPredalien12 Physically, if we cut her hair and removed her breasts it wouldn't make much difference. In the same way in what she does and how she behaves. Like Sarah Connor in T2; You probably like her too, because she fits the same description you did of Emili Blunt's character. But basically they both look more masculine than a lot of modern male characters. (It's already relatively common to see male characters like this fashion designer talking to Ema Stone. ruclips.net/video/5qmNw-biOTE/видео.html ) And not to mention Emili Blunt's handling of the character, which basically puts him above Tom Cruise. She trains him, teaches him to fight, maybe for you there is no problem, but for example 40 or 50 years ago it was a crazy and ridiculous idea for a woman to teach a Man how to fight, and fighting is not exactly feminine, even if you try to say otherwise. And surely you will try to justify that with the plot of the movie, but that's how they wrote it and decided, that doesn't justify anything. They could, as I said, put a male actor.
@@luiseduardomurillomartinez Ok so you admit it makes sense of the plot of the movie, not to mention you're aware there wearing Exosuits that massively enhance their strength and speed. If anything in one of those suits your personal flexibility would be more important than strength or build of the user, but coming back to your point, yes it could have been a man, but it in no way detracts from the movie or plot that it's a woman. If anything it's just impressive how well Emily was about to convincingly pull off such a badass persona, stellar performance.
I actually picked up on this trend here in the U.S. around 2010. The commercials started making specifically Caucasian men incompetent and (insert DEI here) has the answer or fixed the problem. I told my wife at the time that the script was being completely flipped. I didnt expect the dumpster fire that has been the 14 years that followed though.
@Filipa Antonia Barata de Araujo I agree. Everyone succeeded because of everyone else it was a group effort, it was the free people's coming together as one to defeat sauron. No one in the fellowship would have found success without the others.
@NopeMost women are shallow creatures, they are only attracted to a man if he either has good looks with Rambo's physique or is rich or just both. You can lash out now and disagree all you want, that is the truth.
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Doesn’t help when the “modern” writers discard the source material & just write about their lives like RoP, She Hulk, Willow, and most fantasy genres today
@hope. Don’t like that comment you absolute tools, it’s a bot as well
She-hulk is pretty much the worst thing ever trying to get away as a TV show.
@@theinnerlight8016 why?
And now Velma
She Hulk is literally the most comic accurate MCU entry to date.
Can't write men, can't write women, can't write people..... Can't write humor, can't write good wholesome messages...
Basically modern movies suck because investors are telling Disney, Netflix, HBO Max and the rest to hire writers and directors based on their tweets, not on skills or experience.
Completely agree
ironically they can't write women either anymore.... they work way to hard to make them all dudes....
They just suck at writing anything but their signature on checks.
EXCUSE ME....EXCUSE ME, SIR! How else do you expect US to do the gr3atres3t, if we, at vanguard, state street and black rock and our overlord from the WEF/davos doesn't guide Disney, Netflix and HBO Max to the right way of things, like agenda 2o3o....y'all didn't even the shot, so we can't even do the Georgia Guildstones.
what do you want US to do, dammit?
if the investors are woke then they want a woke project, no investor is going to risk money on something they think might fail unless they need a huge tax right off.
Seeing that quote from Feige where the entire character of Doctor Strange was reduced down to simply "white male" really exemplifies the problems with the current creative scene. Writers genuinely seem to care more about the race and gender of a character than any of their other traits.
Audiences and even die-hard fans would've loved seeing Stephan make an appearance in WandaVision!
Yea, just like I don't deduce Benedict Cumberbatch is a terrible actor because of his attempt (or lack thereof) of a Boston accent in Black Mass. He's a pretty good actor, but christ that was bad.
I hate that he said
Its so dumb but still i don't believe that it was a story reason why he didn't appear
We know the Pandemic messed up almost every MCU movie and series
The finale of WandaVision felt rushed and like many plot points weren't resolved
Doctor Strange also got mansplained by America Chavez.
He could have just lied and said Benedict Cumberbatch had a scheduling conflict and couldn't make the filming.
As a woman I don’t think a lot of chronically online women are being genuine when they pretend heroic empowered male leads aren’t a thrill to watch
Yeah it’s good to get some badass women - every girl I know liked Kim Possible and Tomb Raider and Hermione as a kid but making the men suck doesn’t make me happy at all
@@maenad1231 exactly! You don’t have to push the male characters down for the female characters to be good….they can _all_ be good
It makes me seriously question the ability of modern writers…if you can’t make your female character look great without turning the men around her into buffoons then you’re a poor writer!
That is certainly part of it. The need to tear down the other characters is petty and vindictive, and comes across that way.
The other side though is "the message" the writing comes across as preachy and cultish propaganda, because it IS. These writers are not expressing thoughts or stories, they are expressing the party line.
@@vidard9863 Well said by all 3 of you. But also notice when super heroes are gender changed in the name of 'equality' the villain often remains male. Shouldn't the villain also be female? What happened to 'equality?'
@@maenad1231 and making the women suck also sucks. We are on the same page
@@vidard9863 that’s it exactly
It's funny, they don't want men to stereotype them and yet they sterotype men.
Hypocrisy and irony knows no bounds or limits
The stereotype plans into the moral high ground by them blocking any stereotypes of them while stereotypes us gives them the moral high ground advantage.
The weird thing is that modern writers hate men but create female characters with all the stereotypes and tropes of strong male characters....so strange and weird. There's also nothing wrong with feminine women, in fact feminine women are possibly more powerful than masculine men as one requires brute strength while the others require mental finesse.
@@sew_gal7340 masculine men aren't all brute strenght.
It's almost like they're just scumbags with a chip on their collective shoulders instead of real idealogues.
I'm shocked to learn that people who went straight from their parents' suburban mansions to Ivy League schools and then into a coveted job writing scripts don't know anything about men, about women, about life. Who could've seen that coming?
ikr, what a shocker lol
*stirs coffee with a stirring stick*
Ya don' say???
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capitalism baby
Do you really think that's what's happening here? I think it's far more likely that the powers that be are purposely destroying masculinity in film by making the movies bad on purpose.
@@SUPREMELEGEND Why? I'm honestly curious to the reason they'd want to make bad movies.
“You can’t have male mentors teaching women anything of value.” I actually love that you addressed this, growing up as a girl all of my on-screen heroes were men. Not because I disliked the women or that they were underrepresented, but I preferred the stoicism you’re talking about. I also watched chick-flicks with my mum of course and loved the feeling of being accepted simply because of belonging to the ‘girls club’ and female solidarity, but that felt more like learning social responsibility whereas I formed my individual sense of responsibility from what I saw from men on-screen and my dad. Who I am as a person today, and my work ethic and how I interact with others, are influenced by both genders, this modern idea that one side only is valid is equal to cutting off a leg and saying you prefer to be unbalanced instead of whole
You mention you had a good dad, that's why you're not with the movement. My theory is most of the craziness is coming from people who didn't have a dad, who grew up with a single mother who taught them that men are trash, that their dad was a deadbeat and good riddance. Unfortunately we're continuing to trend in that direction where there are more kids growing up without a dad. Marriage rates are going down but women are still going to have babies. Men are increasingly considered unnecessary.
@@sup9542 This Show, as Upper Echelon points out, is MEANT to be bad, so it generates Hateclicks.
They WANT Engagement, so stop engaging.
There are some great chick flicks. When Harry met sally, sleepless in Seattle. Ghost, dirty dancing.
A good film is a good film.
I’m a 40 year old 6’9” hairy dude. I watch Sex in the city once every 2 years. Miranda really resonates with me. A single parent with a high stress job.
The person who said men can’t identify with a female character recently, can’t remember who it was, has obviously never asked any men.
@@sup9542 that’s the scariest thing, not necessarily. I do think that people without a dad or even a good male role model fall victim to these shenanigans, but my (older) siblings have as well. Although I will say that they got snagged up *after* cutting off our dad for how he voted, so that’s an interesting correlation for sure, that I never really thought about before
@@mrmagoo-i2l oh wow, it’s so cool to hear this! I never really heard much growing up about men relating to women characters, so I didn’t think about it in my original comment, but you’re totally right. That director clearly forgets that men throughout history have praised and acknowledged women many times as inspirational
James Bond is dead, Indiana Jones is now a frail weak frightened confused old man who just wants to die, Luke Skywalker became grumpy old drunk who just wanted to die, Is it me or is there a trend forming here ,
Now the character of the new Joker movie
“I’m surrounded by a lot of women in this department. And that includes the men” - Ron Swanson
Couldn’t have said it better myself
As expected, the bot links to a video about how to make pizza
Every day I put my feet on the floor, I know I am soon to walk amidst the parasites.
I love how Ron was meant to be some outrageous parody, but he ends up making more sense than anyone on the show.
@@deadman4231 yes but... its the full video of how to make it. 🤣🤣🤣
When a character is stoic, it makes their emotional outbursts that much more impactful. If Captain Hero Man is shown to be stoic in almost every situation, but weep at his mother's grave, we know something important about him. If he cries at everything, who cares if he weeps at his mother's grave. He cried because a kitten meowed
It’s the reason why the ending to Schindler’s List was so impactful. He earned that emotional scene after all that had happened. “Why did I keep this car, I could’ve saved ten more lives.”
It reminds me to Brendan Fraser in the Bedazzled remake, where one of his multiple characters was an overly sensitive and emotional man that was crying for everything.😭😭😭
Yes, this point resonates with me a lot. A great example for this is First Blood. Rambo endures everything thrown at him while the movie makes it clear he's having severe PTSD attacks but only at the end he finally breaks down emotionally, which is one of the biggest emotional payoffs in cinema.
@@bluecoin3771 he saved 60 millions or it were 6 or 600 million? 🙄
The game Watch Dogs had a classic stoic male character which critics called as generic, but was more memorable than anything the series has done since. Watch Dogs 2 had a forgettable hipster type.
When they constantly feel the need to make male characters look bad in order for the female characters to look good, do they not realise that it's really a sign of insecurity & weakness. Genuinely strong women can stand with men & have no desire to be against them like this. It's also a terrible message to send for both men & women.
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Their idea of a strong woman is weird as well. Theyre not annoying and going out of their way to be little the men around them. My boss is a woman and she has no need to belittle any of the men around her and she is well respected as someone who is calm and collected. Assertive when needed to be. Also lets us do our jobs with out constant check ins or displays of power.
@@hungryowl1559 check out women in ground construction jobs. Well loved because of their relative femininity but also capability to pull her load in ways alternate to physical strength. starting out however, they're the butt end of 101 sexual jokes, which if they take well, they become part of the camaraderie
@@hungryowl1559 than I thank god it’s not Cartimandus a straight up Celtic traitor, to the Romans over her own people
Terrible message is the agenda.
My father told me this once as a kid "dont change a perfectly normal tire, it will just waste your time" bless him
I mean… you do have to change all 4 tires at once if the spare ones you have/buy dont match the size of the good ones cause the spare will destroy your diferential… just saying.
Well said
I'm a single dad and I home school my son and I found a group of mainly women who do the same and we get the kids together about twice a week and do it together. We where just chatting one day and the topic of movies came up and I was genuinely surprised when pretty much all the women in our group made the same complaints about men in movies and how they where just sick and tired of the, in their words " absolute stupidity of the female characters being so over powered and the men having to be so weak to make them look good". I took my son to see Maverick and he loved it, when we did the next group event my son went on and on about it to the other kids, the Mums thought it would be good to take their kids and invited us as well and they all loved it.
Glad to hear you had that positive experience, mate. Hope the mums and kids in your playgroup enjoy it too. :)
The good ending
Maverick is like the last man standing in a sea of sht movies that hate men.
Not surprised to see that people who home school their kids would agree on this. Typically people home school because they do not like the school systems or what is being taught in school, so they are already more aware of these problems than most. Glad to see though, more people who notice, the more the push back will begin.
I don't know if you are in the US, I suppose the 'mums' part of your comment makes me want to clarify that, but since Trump has been kicked out and everyone isn't hysterically fight each other politically, a lot of the moderates that were so upset with Trump have also begun to see the cultural shifts being pushed by the progressive left. A natural push back is starting to happen, though not as forceful as it needs to be yet.
Real women love strong men. It's natural. Men are there to protect women, children, the family and society. And we women know when we're presented with phony female heroes who couldn't really do any of the things they're shown doing. Like "Lady" Thor. Such a load of crap.
"Anything masculine is bad, unless it's a woman doing it."
Can you imagine prime Newman, Redford, McQueen, Eastwood and Gibson existing in hollywood today. No I can't either because they'd never be given a single role, the millions of morons today would be offended by everything they represented. Chris Hemsworth and pals AKA the watered down versions of those fuckin legends will also go extinct one day because of how offended by masculinity "modern audience's" now are.
Back when I used to reddit, I made a post asking people what would they say if they had to convince someone to come here and be their kid? The catch was, whatever was omitted was sure to happen. Surprise surprise, no one had shit to say. It's crazy because there's this subreddit about the earth being a prison planet and even with that perspective people were still saying they'd have kids. It was remarkably unbelievable. I'm like "why would you bring people to prison on purpose?" Makes no sense.
I understand not having come to that awareness yet, but once you do...how in tf can you justify cursing someone?? They'd say "it's better we have the kids so we can tell them the truth about this prison planet" and I'd say "so you're going to bring someone to prison just so you can tell them they're in prison? How about don't bring them to prison at all?" People kill me. Selfish desires apparently override sensibility; nothing new under the sun, I guess.
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It's not that masculine women are bad is that a lot of masucline women take it overboard and be too argumentative, combative, nonagreeable. What man would want that? none! Most men a long day at work when I come to a nice warming loving wife not some argumentative woman.
@@yung829 If they want to write women like that, no problem, my problem is with the double standard of chatising men for certain characteristics and praising the same ones when it's on a woman. If being angry and agressive is bad on a man, the same should be aplied to women, at least make the effort to be consistent on your views.
Unless Mikhalia doing it and nice guys fawning on her.
After hearing it so many times, "made for a modern audience" translates in my mind as "the beatings will continue until morale improves."
Its just code for marxist propaganda.
That was the comment I was originally going to make until I read yours =) It's the absolute truth.
"And then they will continue."
"Made for self-absorbed whiners, weaklings, parasites, and losers".
😂😂
There seems to be a conspiracy to present men as whiny and weak
Some women like to feminize men and make them look like a fat panda or the grandma next door
maybe its just a reflection of reality...maybe majority are.... 🤷
This video summarizes why "Top Gun Maverick" did extremely well at the box office. People were yearning for a strong, male lead with all the traditional throwback hero values, so this movie provided them with those.
It also genuinely felt like a story actually waiting to be told, rather than a shoehorned shitty sequel that's really just a retcon of the whole series to bring the spotlight on an unlikable wahman cuz how dare the main lead be a guy. You could logically see the story of TG2 carry over from the original, a major dynamic being letting go of historical baggage respectfully and making amends in the present with his deceased buddy's son.
Also practical effects looked awesome.
Top Gun Maverick was successful for the same reason Micheal Bay movies are, it was military propaganda
@@wordoftheday7650 you must be fun at parties...
@@Honkiavelli I mean this is a video whining about how men aren’t stoic anymore, as if that’s like an attack on men… which is pretty ironic, because that comes off as whining to me
I think one of my favorite scenes ever came from the first X-Men movies when Wolverine is just talking to Rogue in the car. She asks if it hurts when he pops his claws out, and he doesn’t go any further than saying “every time”. I like the simple and short responses, followed by the brief bits of silence in films. Let’s them linger.
@Chad 007 Thanks, bro.
@Chad 007 Okay, you got me. XD
This is something I realised when first watching Star Wars 7. I was enraged by how bad and badly copied the movie was from the original, but I was also unsure if I may not have been fooled by my fond memories. So after getting home frome the theatre, I rewatched Part 4, and boy what a contrast. Lucas in his day managed to convey so much more by doing so much less.
I was gonna say "Bryan Singer may be persona non grata..."
But maybe that little moment that stuck with you is all thanks to David Hayter
X-Men sounds nice (perhaps they won't even call it that anymore as it's "non-inclusive")
I really hope they don't hijack that franchise just to keep us even more divided
Stay vigilant, treasure your loved ones, be ready to let go and all that...
That's not just a male acting thing, that's a movie thing in of itself. A mix of creative visual storytelling and solid acting to immerse yourself in that situation. If Logan just spilled every detail nonchalantly, then the potential for your audience to be intrigued diminishes.
Men in general have this natural mastery to physical storytelling, and that they can convey a lot of information just with a few gestures and subtle expressions with little to no words. Just look at Sean Connery's James Bond to study on how a true *actor* portrays a suave, capable, and calculating man just with a few scenes of witty dialogue. Key word: *act.* He acts like a man, talks like a man, and thinks like a man.
That's why when I see decent male actors act like immature, insecure dolts in media, I see it as a waste of talent.
Thank god there’s someone with an audience that is calling this out.
Too little, too late.
@@scottbilger9294 Yep, considering who is pushing this and how.
We need more shows like
JoJo's or Games like Tf2
We need more
Hot Buff Oily Men
Not cringe Woman
reject lust, embrace God
Also, we have evidence for biblical events, if anyone is interested
I heard the next 007 is going to be a drag queen
Forget movies, you absolutely can't miss it in commercials.
I've been noticing this for about 10 years now and every time I bring it up to my family they get on my case and call me sexist. It's getting ridiculous.
They are brainwashed
They are misandrists
"Sexist" - as an eastern-european, I literally never heard a person with brain using this word. Even if we were mocking females for something they just called us jerk and we all laugh.
Sounds like they are projecting. It's no doubt they are the sexists holding such an opinion on men.
@Gregor Gerzson Eastern European here. I've mocked the media and normies used that word to describe them every time they complained about female struggles while completely ignoring or denying male struggles
In the summer of 2022, I had a call with an editor to publish a manuscript I’d written; the meeting went very well and it looked as if I’d be made an offer, then she pulled a fast one, her complaint moving forward were in two parts: one, the manuscript was too masculine. Second, if I wanted to move forward towards an offer, most of those toxic males would need to be adapted so that they represented the LGBTQ. At the time, it was a real low point, but it was also an eye opener. I learned the art truly is in trouble but also who I was in the face of that trouble. I politely declined, the offer never came, I’m still shopping the book around, at the very least I know where I stand. Thank you Mr. Critical Drinker you brilliant beast of intellectually, for reminding me with video essays like this: stay the course.
unrelated but nice Fate/Zero pfp, extremely underrated anime.
Wow, even at the publishing level these people try to inject their woke nonsense. Nothing is sacred to them, it seems.
It shows the rot, and means any publishing house that starts up and keeps such types out is going to do well long term. (Provided they do at least middling level business work.)
Based, don’t sell your soul to these degenerates
In today's age it's easier than ever to self publish your work through amazon. I'd recommend taking the time to research how to do it in a smart way.
Also In the Penguin Random House/S&S antitrust trial it was revealed that out of 58,000 trade titles published per year, half of those titles sell fewer than one dozen books. LESS THAN ONE DOZEN.
Stop being depressed about this, half of these publishers will go under in the next 5 years, you don't want to be a part of that sinking ship.
Top Gun: Maverick being the highest gross of 2022 is really quite telling with regards to this. Its one of the few "Decades later remakes" where it feels like the writers actually liked the original movie and character and wanted to explore that more, as opposed to wanting to tear them down and destroy them for the audacity of being more popular than modern crap.
I'm not really into top gun but I agree with your assessment
I think Tom Cruise only accepts roles where the same plot structure is:
1. Toms character is damn good at whatever he is, maybe the best.
2. But his ego gets him in trouble and he is almost destroyed.
3. A woman talks some sense into him and builds him back up.
4. Tom returns and wins.
Sure there are a few exceptions but this really does explain most of his movies.
Perhaps this was helped by the fact that Tom Cruise had quite a lot more control and love for the character. Unlike, I dunno, a certain Daniel Craig.
I never really like Tom Cruise much, but it's clear from the Top Gun remake that he is aware of what is going on and was determined to resist it. And for that I give him a lot of credit. Many many other A-listers weren't so smart.
Avatar 2 surpassed it
This is so true! It's getting to the point that I don't want to watch new shows anymore. I can't stand what filmmakers are doing to male characters and favorite series now.
I have seldom seen a man look more depressed than Mark Hammill sitting next to Ryan Johnson in that press conference.
And how obvious it was that Hamill is one of those strong men from the past, sitting next to a woke worm
He knew that he was trapped in a faustian bargain with Disney
@@dragonforks93 The story about modern Disney belongs to old Disney movies ^^
With it being the evil corporation, the main antagonist of course.
President Zelensky slumped in a chair next to President Trump,
I think hit "max" on the depression scale.
Congress had approved the money but Trump refused to disburse it unless Ukraine helped him frame Hunter Biden. And Zelensky refused.
The heavy breathing says it all
Hence the reason Top Gun: Maverick had such a massive success. It had an old school written male character.
And the success of Yellowstone on tv.
@Brian Murphy fuck yes! Rip is one of the only real men on TV. Fantastic character!
Agreed
A depiction of man that isn't the ones depicted by college freshman feminist pigs
What was well done in that film was the addition of diversity with subtlety. Female and BAME pilots were in the story but they were just all great aviators. Show, don’t tell.
This is why Top Gun: Maverick was so successful. It was one of very few recent movies that showed a positive, successful man.
My favorite movie of the year beside The Northman.
Peggy was his muse at one point, pushing him back to help his team, but he was still the hero.
Agreed it was such a breath of fresh air, men dealing with hard times and hard moments but still pushing through finding the strength to be heroic and love, while also being smart for once and outsmarting the enemy. Compared to well…man he’s dumb and sexist where is his woman or diverse set of characters to correct him
Definitely not. It was more glamorous than stoic. Beach bodies, cool haircuts, cool wardrobe, etc.
That film got Navy politics to a T.
Having clint Eastwood in a video...even for a split second is more manly and badadss than anything Hollywood can muster...
In a modern movie, when everyone starts yelling, you know this's are getting serious...
In a classic movie, when everyone goes silent, you know the freaking sky's gonna fall down!
@Jack Smith Why are you spamming that comment in multiple places? And can you please give a single example of something the Drinker hated that was actually worth watching?
@Jack Smith Look up the definition of spamming. And from your inability to name one thing the Drinker hated that was worth watching, I take it that you can't name any. I'm beginning to doubt that you've ever watched a Drinker video, rather than just spamming obvious nonsense in the chat.
@@georgebailey8179 Not agreeing with that loser at all but I'm pretty sure drinker didn't like new Tomb Raider movie but I thought it was fun and enjoyable. That's the only instance that I've disagreed with him.
@Jack Smith Why are you arguing like a child? The adults are talking.
@@joggerman8455 Something can be bad, yet enjoyable. You subjective enjoyment has absolutely nothing to do with the objective quality of something. Nobody will agree if I were to boldly proclaim the lie that the Star Wars Prequels are good movies. But I enjoy the hell out of them. I like all of them. I prefer the originals but never disliked the prequels.
Speaking of Emily Blunt, I believe her husband was an excellent male character in the first A Quiet Place movie. He was a capable patriarch. He led his family. A great father. Intelligent. Resourceful. Brave. And he ultimately sacrificed himself to save his family. A sort of throwback male character.
Unfamiliar with whatever is being referred to about her, hopefully if its bad that Cruise can reel her in for the Edge of Tomorrow sequel they've been working on.
@@pawsomelabrastead9244 I don’t know if it’s Cruise & Blunt’s interaction or some more recent news regarding Blunt, but on the first point- Blunt noted in some form of an interview that Edge of Tomorrow was physically (and probably mentally) exhausting, and the war suit was heavy. In short, she hit a low point on set, said something a bit negative, and Cruise jumped in and basically told her to man up; it caught her off-guard, but she by no means was offended by his comment.
He wasn't, he ignored the little one after he almost got the family killed, both parents allow him to walk at the end when he should have being in the middle of the group, got killed because he didn't have enough tools to distract the monsters
@@Kylesb Oh yeah, I did read about that. Poor thing making millions to feel equality occasionally.
Being a patriarch is not something one should aspire to be
Can't have a smart male character who doesn't lose to a woman at some point.
A few are still there
Doesn't matter any more with the AI coming down the pipeline will be able to make all the mainly movie for cheap, so just enjoy the comedy.
Your white armor has arrived, Sir Simpalot.
Poor Chris Himsworth, they have been casting him as the buffoon, in most of his movies of the last 6 or so years.
My mom cheats at board games so everybody lost to her each time. You could even play Clue and she would not have shared that she had the wrench in her hand. The you call it and open the envelope and it was the damn rope and she would have a sheepish smile.
Men want to watch strong male characters, women want to watch strong male characters; who are they trying appeal to?!
It’s a Chinese psyop
They’re trying to appeal to snowflakes, teenagers, and maybe even adult idiots too.
@@easygoingperson8787 I'm a teenager and I would never watch this woke stuff
@@thebiggerslime Leave Forrest Gump out of this, don't give them any ideas. Pretty sure they would find a way to consider Forrest Gump toxic.
@@aurallistine W.
I've used the "commercial idiotic male" trope for about well over a decade now as one example of accepted sexism. Usually met with sighs and eye rolls. It was deeply satisfying to hear it pointed out here.
From my experience most people dont notice changes in the media and society and how people view and think about things at all and thinks you are just weird and crazy if you mention that kind of stuff to them.
Most people also seems to be completely blind to double standards.
Most people seriously only seems to be able to notice and see things if the mainstream media talk about it a lot.
Then these same clowns act surprised when male figures like Andrew Tate spring up outta nowhere lmfao.
@@CyberLance26 because most people have an average IQ of 60 to 70, an average grade intelegence of 4th grade, and generally dont think for themselves most of the time
Accept and be ready for what I call the "poor baby" response. It will always always happen. Don't fear it, embrace it. You see it gives you license to not give an f about women crying about, whatever women cry about. And let them know it with a big smile on your face. Enthusiastically thank them for their "poor baby".
I've been noticing that since the 90s. Anyone who said anything but praise for misandrist content was branded a "sexist" and ruined. This was before the internet. Few men noticed it, fewer cared and very few were willing to say anything. It was a lonely time to be a red pill dude. Times are better now, far from perfect, but far better. At least now misandry can be pointed out without nearly as much fear of reprisal.
The arch of the modern strong female character:
Act I: SFC is unique and badass but no one knows it.
Act II: SFC demonstrates how unique and badass she is, without any additional training, failure, or guidance. The conflict is people testing or disregarding her unique badassery.
Act III: Everyone learns how uniquely badass SFC is!
😆😂🤣
‘Reyyyy!’
Writers who can't connect with the concept of working hard to become good/skilled/respected because everything was given to them based on their intersectionality scores are naturally going to struggle with women having to learn anything. Unless the women are written to be feminine, then they get to learn about feminism.
*Arc
@R. P. it's weird how even feminists think femininity is weakness
I remember a James Bond movie where M describes Bond as a dinosaur of a different Era, yet in reality he is exactly what is needed to fix the current crisis. We need that in modern entertainment.
Of course, his recent change in character IS pretty understandable; I mean, you live a life like his, you see and go through the shit he has, after a while it takes a toll.
That scene was in 1995. The point of that scene wasn't to put down James Bond.
@@spacemann1425 1995, better times.
no worry honey. next bond will question about his sexuality and his skin color while fighting climax change
@@TheMaulam12345 can't wait😄
13:19 My dad has been watching the old Columbo TV show from the 70s, and I gotta say I love the main character because he's just so... average, but in the best possible way. He's no underwear model. He fumbles with things in his pockets. He speaks courteously, even to the main suspects in murder cases. He doesn't have any kind of savant mental powers like most modern day detectives. But it's just so cathartic watching him slowly pick a case apart and expose the criminal.
Picard was one of the saddest. It felt like an utterly different person. From one of the absolute best and most aspirational characters to a doddering old simp
Same here. It hurts my soul as that is my favorite show of all time. I refuse to watch that dumpster fire called Picard. It’s not canon.
@@xposetruth5681 If Patrick Stewart was tired and bored of playing Picard, he shouldn't have come back to the character. He butchered it because he wanted to do something different without thinking about his responsibility to the legacy of the character. The character just isn't his, several writers made the character what it was.
PATRICK STEWART
MADE BAD INVESTMENTS
AND LOST A TON OF MONEY
HE WAS FACING
BANKRUPTCY AT
80 YEARS OLD
UNLIKE TRUMP
HE COULDN'T GET
RUSSIA
ISRAEL
CHINA
NORTH KOREA
SAUDI ARABIA
DEUTSCHE BANK
TO GIVE HIM
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
Sad but true
Picard was an absolute betrayal of everything the character ever was, and everything he ever stood for. Trek is stone cold dead.
Hollywood vilifies men and wonders why the lose most of their audience
@@fvefve12 They are losing money, disney is making less revenue than before, at least with MCU products when taking into account marketing expenses and inflation. This isn't even mentioning the CEO situation. There have been rumors about big corporations financing "the message", if you believe them to be true or not is up to each individual.
@@fvefve12 Then we are fucked
@@fvefve12 we found the shill boys 😂
If you want the money for your movie, think about the main cinema payer in the audience: the white man. They forget it and cry later.
The Drinker’s grave stone is just gunna say “Go away now!”
He’ll go out like a legend! 😎
Right after date of death: 'went away then'
lol nice, either that or "nah it'll be fine"
When he does ill stick around.
@@bdb1052 I was thinking that might be an alternative too.
This is absolutely amazing!!! I hope that everyone can hear this message and learn that men are supposed to be men and not women!
There's more manliness in two minutes of any Eastwood film of the 60's/70's than the entirety of anything made in the last ten years
You could've left off "of the 60's/70's". Cause Clint ain't no bitch. He's 90 years old, and can still kick your ass, my ass, and the asses of our best friends.
John Wick disagrees
"Get three coffins ready"
@@hubertbevillard2576 john wick is a girl with a lot of ammo!..
And racism frankly.
Aragorn is a fairly modern example of a good male character. He's not a toxic, aggressive stereotype, or a dolt. He's a competent warrior who cares about his comrades, and his lady. You can tell he's introspective, and that living up to his legacy carries emotional weight, but he never whines about it. He, like Frodo, bucks up and carries that burden because that's what OG guys do.
Actually even in the LOTR movies there were some small but significant differences from the source material. For example, in the movies Aragorn whines: 'I'm Isildur's heir, the same weak blood runs in me' and then Arwen comforts him: 'You're Aragorn, not Isildur himself'. In the books, on the other hand, it's Boromir who accuses Aragorn of being Isildur's heir and having his weaknesses, while Aragorn defends himself saying that he's his own man.
Modern example? That was 20 years ago. He’s talking about the last decade especially last 5 years have been atrocious portrayals of men… and women.
@@mikoaj1349 eh?
Book Isildur is a hero, who died heroically.
It was the movies that made him into: "hearts of men are easily corrupted"
Book Aragorn would be proud to be called heir of Isildur.
@@mikoaj1349 thats a bit different, that scene was put there to convey that Arwen was his closest confidant and he was able to talk to her, showing how he is when hes around someone he can open up with kinda i guess. It made him feel more human, we all have doubts. But most men dont share those doubts with the whole world and complain,.
John McClane although the good Die Hard films are even older. And what about Hans Gruber charming, nicely spoken, cunning, quick witted and ruthless
Silence in dialogue is powerful because it feels REAL
The writers probably never saw a real conversation between people
Those writers are energy drink spoiled autistic soy boys who believe steven universe is the peak of what entertainment looks like so obviously they never talked to another human being with an once of sanity
confrontation is being made more and more not socially acceptable, you're actually probably right
@@thegoodwolf4255 of course you make men less confrontational and less dominant they pose less of a threat to the elite group of men that control the world. 😉
at the same time a little is enough and no one wants their time wasted on endless quiet.
We have a hyperactive, can't sit still for five minutes audience of children now addicted to TikTok and mindless dopamine bullshit. Combine that with an industry that has become all about making money and less about storytellers: you have these movies now. They're not only bad on their own, they're tarnishing their original versions-which they shamelessly remake to begin with.
In 1:35 the reason why they make men seem like that in comercials, is cuz usually its woman that go buy groceries, so those adds r just targeted at woman. You wont see comercial about power tools do that.
As a female, much older than most who have posted here, I have to say, thank you Drinker for your concise and entertaining breakdown of why we all hate modern films and television. As I watch your exceptionally well edited video I am reminded of all the films I have loved so much, the male characters I have endearing emotional attachments to, and how it deeply saddens me by the literal crap I am force fed these days. Watching the demise of Luke Skywalker has been one of the worst cinematic experiences I have ever had. I was a young adult, barely an adult when Star Wars premiered. Same with Alien. Luke Skywalker and Ellen Ripley, true heroes among film science fiction/adventure stories. The turning upside down of expectations and the proliferation of "woke" cinema over the last 15/20 years has taken all the fun out of going to a movie theater. The anticipation of seeing my favorite hero act like a hero has been supplanted by the idea that I need to see a deconstruction of that hero to make me more socially aware of some sort of injustice has completely soured my desire to spend money on Hollywood films. Thanks for the video. I will recommend it on my next podcast.
When i red the Rippley/Skywalker-part, i felt a cold shower running down my spine as i imagined the pure epicness, and adventure, and how those movies felt. Especially at that time 😍
Must have been incredible to watch those for the first time, sitting in a big seat in the cinema, you still dont really know what to await and than the Star-Wars intromusic blasts your ears through your brainstem and the text rolls in.
I really envy you for your age..
Greetings from Germany, have a good one
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Watch John Wick and take a chill pill lady. Jeez. Have you watched the Northman, Nobody, Top Gun maverick, Bad Liuetenant is so woke huh? Ridiculous
@vickilove5795 Wasn't Luke always kind of bitchy, though? Also, the part of Ellen Ripley was written for a man.
@@metalmayhem3622 luke was a whiney little brat in A New Hope and Mel Gibson cried in almost every 90s movie he was in. Alpacinos whole carer was built on losing his cool and I was there for it all. This channel has become an echo chamber of bullshit.
It's hard to write in good male characters when modern society considers them "toxic"
We're on the cusp of a civilization where machinery proposes to erase concepts of merit and living on ones own terms for a dependent society.
Men (though not exclusively) symbolize independence and earned merit. So to make a population docile, those icons would have to be taken out.
@@Ghost_Text That’s terrifying, tbh. It’s the equivalent of erasing the historical past and rewriting it in order make it better than it actually was.
@@Ghost_Text Yes, this is the objetive of all this circus. Young, strong, stoic and ambitious males present the biggest danger to the ruling class. Making them weak and submissive is a way to keep power.
It isn't hard to write them at all. Modern society does not consider them toxic at all. An extremely small subset consider that, and these people are in Hollywood and academia pushing their fringe beliefs as if they were fact.
@@chasehedges6775 Dude, the establishment rewrites the historical past to make it seem worse than it really was. You got it totally backwards
This could also be the reason that John Wick has been successful. Where most men are emotional, John is portrayed as very stoic. He can control a situation with his silence and when he does speak, you usually feel the impact of it. For example, when Vigo has him all tied up in the first movie. When he speaks up, you can hear the raw emotion conveyed in Keanu's voice. John just wanted to be left alone to grieve but it was snatched away from him in the form of Josef killing his dog and stealing his car.
@whatsappme9933 tfw you steal a film critics profile pic to try to scam ppl. ugh
It was mostly killing his dog. You don't kill dogs unless your ready for war.
@@nathancawley8759 Yeah, they literally comment on everything I say. Makes me feel like they're targetting me specifically. They've also impersonated other youtubers and commented on my stuff from other videos.
Those movies are getting worse and worse though. Keanu is the type of guy to happily have his character be neutered so women and trans women can take over. He’s very down with that trend.
@sup9542 what women are you referring to? Sure there are badass female characters but I'd hardly say they "took over"
The concept of a stoic man teaching a toxic boss girl about humblization would be incredibly interesting to watch. I mean think about it, The stoic man executes their actions night perfectly to show how experienced he is at what he does meanwhile the bossgirl keeps ln fumbling on trying to replicate the stoic man slowly realizing she has talents of her own that contributes as well. On topic of the fact that the bossgirl would yell at the stoic man until he simply responds with. "You're not acting like your age y'know." Before the boss girl screams again while the stoic man remains unphased. Would actually watch that.
Kill Bill, Vol. 2.
The stoic man (male, singular) executes his* actions. Looks like you fell for "non-toxic" grammar yourself😉.
Do you mean 'humility?'
This comment is a mess
The hyper-emotional, quick to anger male character that never stopped talking used to be used as comic relief. Now it’s just the way they’re written.
Somewhat hilariously "hyper-emotional" and "quick to anger" is how I'd sum up most of the online discourse when it comes to movies in general.
@@xGhost4000x thank you. These guys want to see real men while acting like real women looking for their perfect man. So ironic.
Isn't that who Critical Drinker is? Anyone who waste this much time on content like this isn't a real man at all. Neck beard rantings of unimportant fictional nerd shit as is that really matters in the real world. Getting all angry over movies, TV shows and videogames is as unmanly as it comes.
This is why I loved Reacher SOOO much. The dude was reserved, smart, and just overall a badass. But he still had emotions that were brought out and used for scenes that were all the more powerful because he wasn’t normally teary eyed or angry.
That and Jack Ryan . It's like good writing, especially with make leads. Is becoming rare now
Words you'll never hear from real men 'I'm just going to be vulnerable here for a moment'
Another example would be Ethan Hunt from the Mission Impossible movies. He generally does not come off as very stoic most of the time. But when things get serious he puts all his vulnerabilities aside and gets the job done.
It also helps than Tom Cruise can pull off characters like Ethan Hunt better than any other actor.
@@LoganDX1990 Yeah I think the Jack Ryan series is decent, better than a lot of crap on nowadays anyway. Reminds me I need to get back to the latest season, forgot I had started it lol.
To be honest, I found "Reacher" to be too Marty Sue. He is exceptionally strong, exceptionally smart, and exceptionally professional. Basically, he is a superman w/o kryptonite vulnerability.
"Terminal list" was much better - there was character development, moral choices, and no "superpowers". Just a man who is doing his job and going to the very end if it is needed.
Rocky Balboa in my opinion is one of the best written masculine figure. He can express his fears and insecurities to his wife, he cried when Mick died, and he is capable of being goofy. But when challenges arrives, he never backs down. The Creed Rocky where he didnt want to live anymore is foreshadowed in Rocky V where Mick told him that little by little, an old man's motivation to stay alive disappears.
"I never asked you to stop being a woman, so please don't ask me to stop being a man."
Exactly. Hes a real man that asks for support, from his COMPASSIONATE and CARING WIFE. That is a true man. Women are SUPPOSED to be caring, emotionally supportive, compassionate and emotionally reconstructive. Its the Yin and Yang to mens protectively supportive, reassuring, providing and guiding traits.
Yes! Having a feminine wife to support him is EXACTLY how you write a good woman character. Rocky was awesome
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Adrian is a well written strong female character too. She is able to break free of her insecurities and in turn be the perfect voice of reason when Rocky lost his way.
Nowadays, a feminist's idea of a strong woman is someone who can KO men and is masculine, while Adrian is feminine yet very mentally strong.
@@wasabi5338 Adrian is great. Rocky was willing to give it up for her, which was a massive sacrifice for a man who was on the verge of escaping a life of mediocrity. Adrian knew Rocky risked dying, that she could lose him, but she risked that loss because she knew he would be diminished if he didn't fight. Rocky is a series about two heroes, Rocky and Adrian.
Never get tired of "Rocky" series even I have watched them for hundreds times. The story, characters and musica was on point!
Ironically this all began with a push for more open mental health discussion and the expectations of men seen as weak for sharing any emotion. But they exploited it. And it became something completely fallacious
I think Aragorn is a good example of a male character that isn't stoic to the point of being ice cold and not overly emotional either. He can lop the heads off orcs and then sing poetry after.
IQ is over 9000 👏
That was the excuse, not the real reason
@@Lighthammer18 Aragorn is an amazing male character, he’s masculine but not macho, he’s brave but not reckless, he’s kind without it being a weakness, he’s a leader but still takes council from others, he’s skilled but realistically so, hes self sacrificing for a greater cause, he’s humble and unsure of himself at times but he grows and steps up to his true role. Fab male character, one of my favourites. I also love Theoden
LOTR is full of amazingly written characters
It can be kind of a paradox when your emotionally sensitive as a man, if you have to suppress it to appear stoic then that’s weak you need peoples validation rather than be yourself
It's funny how we went from not knowing how to write women to not knowing how to write people
And then, the logical conclusion: not knowing how to write, period.
"How do you write women so well?"
"I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability."
They wrote women pretty well up until pretty recently though...
how writing evolved, natural progression
Gods
Myths
Heros
Men
Women
Children?
Pets?
Plants?
Robots?
@@nutbastardWtf is that supposed to mean
they’ll never write better movies than the kung fu panda movies
Based
A classic
but other movies are good too, i love marvel, star wars, dc, indiana jones, karate kid, terminator (first 2 only), and robocop
Astronomically based
A classic
I recently rewatched "No country for old men" Looking back we were spoiled with how good films used to be.
I recently watched Oliver Stones 'JFK'.........What a banger of a film that is. Joe Pesci as Dave Ferrie was so good its frightening......."A Triangular crossfire, That's the key, That's the key"
Incredibly depressing to look back at the 2000's (which wasn't too long ago) where constant quality entertainment was just normal and expected, here we are in 2010's/2020's world and you get 2 good things a year and people forget about them in a week
Don't put it in your pocket! It's your lucky quarter
@@NineBreakerUIXB which it is , just a quarter
One of my top 10 personally probably a close favorite. So glad it wasn't poisoned with a netflix spinoff or sequel.
Couldn't agree more! Did you ever do part 2 ? I seem unable to locate it!
First off: I'm a female. Thank you so much for the video! It made me realise I've been focused too much on a feminine side of view in my story and not think hard about how real men speak and behave. I need to tweak some scenes and change the dialogue, but I do want my story to be good and believable. And there are strong and capable males in there already! I just want to make the best story I can and you make some great points. You have my genuine gratitude!
Are you writing a book?
It’s actually really fun to experiment with body language in writing. Getting the descriptions just right so that your reader can see it, but you aren’t spelling it out like they’re a child is a good challenge. I’ve always been complemented on how my characters communicate in my writing, I just need to form a proper story for them.
@Bass Player Nobody even watches any of the shows you just wrote. And I'm not sure it was a good idea to go on a video trying to defend strong men, and then making a comment about some weird obscure anime about a creep who is a pervert and rapes women. Like seriously man, what's wrong with you?
@bassplayer2773 Those are some very poor examples, lol.
@@Sothpawman Noticed that you; didn't help at all, just piling on someone for trying. So stunning and brave of you.
Basically Hollywood has daddy issues, it's mind blowing to see guys like Kevin Feige self-guilting themselves and bending the knee like this.
You're the second guy in this comment section I've seen named Leo.
Hollywood had a China issue. This equity and inclusion movement is very obviously being pushed and funded by the CCP. Just look at every university in the western world. The amount of money the CCP dumps into them says it all.
Spot on, except for the Rocky part. I found the end to Rocky's journey uncomfortably real: Wife died of ovarian cancer. Brother in law was an alcoholic that died from drinking. Son was neglected by his famous boxer dad growing up and now they have a strained relationship. Rocky is left with the sum total of his decisions, and while still beloved by the community as a whole, has lost all of the people he truly loved in his life. At that point, I don't think turning down cancer treatment is that far fetched.
That was Rocky 6 that did that. The son was also a cuck that looked like he should have been working in a hair saloons.
It also gives Rocky his own arc in the film, which I respect. The mentor character is normally just placed in stories to help the hero, without any conflicts of his own. I like that Rocky helps Creed fight, and Creed in return helps Rocky fight.
I had forgotten all that Creed crap. Those films, and Rocky himself, went from trash to mediocre and forgettable so quickly, that it took me a peek to your comment to remind me what had happened in that garbage 🤣🤣🤣
1 theory says if Rocky dealt with his pain properly the cancer will go away. The chemo kills. Healing emotionally cures cancer. The cancer is there to make you understand that or die, is the theory i watched yesterday on bitchute
@@bjrnjohanhumblen1393 the cancer is there because the dna in the cancer cells fail to tell it to stop duplicating. Healing emotionally doesn't get the cancer cells to suddenly change their code. They will still kill you.
I really liked your take on the stoic man. My pastor said something similar that has stuck with me. “If you can’t improve upon silence, don’t “.
My grandfather was a B17 tail-gunner in ww2 and he passed away this week. RIP Corporal E.T. Flood and bless you for your service.
That’s awesome. May he Rest in Peace. He deserves it🙏🙏🙏👍👍
Bad ass, I hope you got him to tell you plenty of war stories while he was here. My great uncle was part of the early Navy SEALs ("Frogs" back then), if he were here today I could sit by the fire all day and listen. I did listen and ask questions a bit as a child, but nowhere near what I wish I could have asked now
And the tragedy with Luke is that he was an inspiring character both to females and males. He was caring, thoughtful and put others above himself, he protected his "family", was there for his sister and his friends alike. In other words: He wasn't the typical dominant male who tries to control everything and push everyone in his direction. And then they made him a sad, depressed character who throws his lightsaber behind his back. Well, they COULD have made him a superwise Jedi who has risen above all earthly things and even rejecting his own power in order to achieve enlightment, like some spiritual masters of the real world do. That could have been believable but no, lets make him just weak and boring. And Mark Hamill said that in an interview too, that he did not like the way they portraited him in the new movies at all.
Hahah AN interview? Theres probably like a 15-20 min complitation of hamill saying how much he dislikes disney starwars and his constant warnings to audiences to not get overhyped
@@lemonscentedgames3641 Makes you wonder why he did them at all.
Luke should had been like his master obi or yoda or anything in between, but no....... He became a very very sad old man. How is that possible other than pure man hating.
Mark said that he had to play the character as NOT Luke Skywalker, because he couldn't reconcile the two characters in any way. What a surprise that the fans couldn't either.
my favorite part is for someone that wants the jedi to "end" is just randomly hanging out on his island in his jedi master robes. Was he trolling the postman again?
You keep putting into words the subconscious reasons why I only watch older films these days.
Or Japanese and Korean films
Or none at all. For about 10 years now.
Switched to reading, they cannot monopolize that market with crap. These days every hollywood movie is trash by default.
As a woman myself I really hate Hollywood's "WOKE" era !!!
Am a woman and in my opinion I think it all goes down to jealousy..
If we can't be as cool, strong, smart and powerful as men we make them appear less so.
Sadly most women don't want to accept the fact that men truly are stronger than us.
It all started the day society totally belittled women who are mothers, teachers or lovers and compared them to cool men. They planted this idea in their heads that giving birth to a human being is something not worth mentioning, stay at home wife is lazy and being feminine is weak...
The most important thing is to compete with men to prove that we are no less.. who said women are less in the first place?? Idk... Like in every movie the man is fighting for the acceptance of the woman he loves or die protecting her. Never an action hero said "pfft lady why can't you fight?"
Modern society made women so confused about their role in life, they expect them to act like men but look like women. It's very exhausting and not aligning with our nature.
I know I'll get some hate comments here from ppl but believe me I was one of the girls who believed so strongly in feminism and that career is the priority but never ever I thought about hating all men... Not all men are angels yes and not all women are kind... but that's the point, which is to tell stories about the good men that we would want to look up to.
Sarah Conner was a cool mother who could fight and who didn't need the men around her to be weak to make her strong. Showing men begrudgingly go to work every day to do a boring job isn't fun either.
It's the writing that's the problem, not women being empowered.
It’s a combination of well-meaning people whose presuppositions are divorced from reality, and a deliberate agenda cultivated through mass media
It's amazing to see that a modern woman actually has the capacity to reflect in this way. My experience whenever I raise these issues with modern Western women is that they fly off the handle.
What I find bizarre is that the characteristics that women admire about men - strength, intellect, confidence - are the exact things that they seem to want to destroy. It's an immiserating ideology - everyone loses.
My girlfriend is from Latin America and whenever she has met women from my country - UK - she is quite shocked at their behaviour. I'm more repulsed at this point which is why I don't deal with them and haven't done for years.
What’s to hate? Men are physically stronger, just like women are more flexible. Men are genetically designed for different things than women, the issue comes with diminishing the role of either.
The complete lack of awareness in modern feminism’… how is belittling mothers, lifting women up?
No hate from me, I completely agree with you.
I've noticed this, too. Even though I'm a woman, I don't like the direction Hollywood is going with portraying men. There are the few exceptions - as you said. It is possible to have a male lead show heart, and still pull off badass action scenes, and show ingenuity and competence.
It's in books, too, and that makes me sick. Either the male characters are eunuchs, or they're morally depraved monsters that the female protagonist has to girlboss-defeat.
My favorite villains are always the calm, collected ones, because you can see they can control themselves, which lets you know they're fully prepared to be cold-hearted murderers without the need to blow up.
Indiana Jones is amazing, and I will always love him. To me, he is one of the greatest action heroes to ever hit the silver screen.
It's a fine line to walk these days, but I'm trying.
The terminal is a recent show that showed hollywood what people want, reacher aswell. Both have powerfull male leads and look at the flak it has gotten for that fact - but the viewers was loyal, almost reversing the rotten tomato scores of most crap that has come out lately.
How about men and women working together and being BadAss together like in The Edge of Tomorrow with Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt or Mad Max Fury Road with Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron working together.
@@brittscott4673 Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron were fucking great in Mad Max. You could buy both of them as legit outlaw badasses
There is no "even though" for women.
Though I haven't asked anywhere near enough women I am certain they like a strong, confident personality too.
As a woman I couldn't agree more
A good explanation of why "Top Gun Maverick" was so successful. Audiences were STARVING for a strong male lead in a movie and made the movie a success.
Yes, a little more balance here would be nice. Hollywood has become so completely predictable with these "modern rules of Hollywood" that nothing surprises anyone anymore.
Here's a great idea of a plot twist in a modern movie.....Have a smart male character that we all like outsmart the evil female villain! Nobody would ever expect it!
Amen 🙏. That’s what I’ve been saying since the movie out
First of all it was a good movie
I watched the predecessor just a few days before going to the theatre to see the new one and i didn't really care about the character
Maybe bc there wasn't really a nostalgia factor for me
Still it was a damn good movie and im glad it was such a huge success and i hope future movies take note
But i did enjoy
Amazons Reacher
and The Terminal list
And DCs Peacemaker bc of the main character/actor
Don’t forget that Top Gun Maverick also has strong, interesting, well-written female characters too. I really loved that pretty mother and her daughter
@@coomslayer6996 All the male and female characters were great
Top Gun Maverick is a masterpiece of good filmmaking and storytelling.
It truly was a good movie that me and my mom and dad enjoyed and we’ve seen the original as well
Man you nailed it here. Have been seeing this happening for years. Anytime I try to watch a modern movie nowadays I'm left feeling flat and there's always some kind of social agenda they're forcing. Started watching a creature film the other day where a female tracker lead a group of male explorers to a dangerous location. I called it in the first 5 mins. She's going to be the only one to survive - and it was true. So predictable now. 20 years ago, one of these men would have protected her when danger struck - but not today. Can't have a man protecting a woman or that would affect the feminist agenda.
Funny how you’re blaming feminism when these are mostly male writers doing this.
I feel bad for boys and young men who have to grow up with these twisted potrayals of men in media.
The objective if you haven't noticed is to turn men into women and women into men because it is a hugely lucrative industry for $$$. They expect it to make more money than Hollywood (surgeries, hormone replacement therapy, therapy, legal costs, increased consumer spending etc). None of what you see is by accident, it is all for profit at the expense of people's mental health. And the other obvious reason for all this feminization of men is weaker men are easier to control. The less stoic heroes you have, the more you can exploit them.
Thank you. My generation of boys are just brainwashed and dominated into believing women are always superior. Yet the girls brag about not getting enough recognition. Which makes sad and angry most of the time. Especially when I see boys acting feminine, emotional, whiney, irresponsible.
As long as those boys have a good father, and grandfather. They will be fine. Jordan Peterson is also a really good man that is in the media as well. Of course they try to twist him, but he's to popular for them to bring down now.
And women too. Initially you might think we're lucky because we aren't demonised but it's not a great look to be portrayed as the annoying, cold mary sue gender. Now people will think that every movie with a female lead will automatically suck when it never had to be this way.
Which is why at 19. I stopped watching any new modern movies that have anything to do with Disney superheros or female leads or female action star. I can't unsee the disrespect of male characters. Tv shows have it way worse than movies It's worse than you Think.
I have seen young men say self hate thing like self owning or self downing. A lack of confidence is the agenda's real goal in my opinion.
as a girl I couldnt agree more
PARTICULARLY about luke's example! the sequels' treatment of him makes me SO FUCKING ANGRY.
thanks for making these vids man. you're addressing the most important videos in media rn
Calm down love
@@lordmoses2172 "Calm down..." Be careful there buddy!
Nah, I think we all have the right to angry about what they did to Luke.
I AGREE!!
@@lordmoses2172 She's right. And you know it. You calm down, love.
@@lordmoses2172she is totally in the right. Maybe calm down your nonsense!
I'm writing a screenplay right now, and I swear to god this analysis just put an essential scene into my head, essential dialogue for a male character.
Drinker, this was more helpful than a stack of screenwriting books.
If you don't mind me asking, what is your screenplay about?
What is that dialogue. I am genuinely curious to know.
You want terse, masculine dialogue? Study Hemingway, McCarthy, Leonard, if you haven't already.
Stoicism is not letting emotion control you are not being a emotionless human being this is something a lot of people seem to misunderstand. A lot of modern writers don't seem to get it they seem to think it is "toxic masculinity" when it is just keeping a cool head, and not making irrational decision based on your emotions.
These are my favourite kind of videos that you make. I enjoy your reviews and recommendations but, when you broaden the topic out and discuss the wider problems in the entertainment industry, that's the real slice of fried gold. It's like the reviews are the what and when, and videos like this are the how and why. Always look forward to them dropping and re-watch them often. Big thumbs up.
Growing up without a father, like a lot of kids do, i depended on my TV/movie heroes for role models. I feel bad for this generation of boys who aren't getting that, especially when family is being devalued at the same time.
not saying anyone is wrong but those old movies are still there, they can still look back at old movies to have that
@@keiyoruu good luck getting them to actually watch them
Dear transfixed that's true me to I brought up without a father in my life
@@nicholashodges201 Pirates theme intensifies
Given your profile picture, I'm guessing Optimus Prime was one of those
I like how their writing consists of who not to include, so that their characters don’t look stupid. They intentionally write around good ideas.
Back when I used to reddit, I made a post asking people what would they say if they had to convince someone to come here and be their kid? The catch was, whatever was omitted was sure to happen. Surprise surprise, no one had shit to say. It's crazy because there's this subreddit about the earth being a prison planet and even with that perspective people were still saying they'd have kids. It was remarkably unbelievable. I'm like "why would you bring people to prison on purpose?" Makes no sense.
I understand not having come to that awareness yet, but once you do...how in tf can you justify cursing someone?? They'd say "it's better we have the kids so we can tell them the truth about this prison planet" and I'd say "so you're going to bring someone to prison just so you can tell them they're in prison? How about don't bring them to prison at all?" People kill me. Selfish desires apparently override sensibility; nothing new under the sun, I guess.
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@@incorectulpolitic I’m not sure what that has to do with my post. Um… that sure is something though.
REMEMBER WHEN EVERYONE HATED TRANSFORMERS MOVIES. TRANSFORMERS 2007 IS BETTER THAN 90% OF ALL MOVIES THAT CAME OUT IN 2022
@@vcrbetamax Off course it sounds crazy for NPCs to not force kids into this hellhole... I mean who would these bored to death sadists use/exploit and abuse and boss around LEGALLY ? 80+% of the NPCs are exploited/used/abused/bossed around 24/7/365 so they want to have that experience as well... but they can't have that experience legally since if they try to exploit/use/abuse/boss around other people they will get in trouble in a few seconds.
The only people who can legally use/abuse/exploit/boss around and murder other people are people with badges-uniforms, white coats, suits-ties, aka the organized criminal syndicate of each region.
So the solution the dilemma of not being able to use/abuse/exploit/boss around legally anybody is pump out units into this hellhole, without their consent/permission and have the party of use/abuse/exploitation/bossing around BEGIN. ;-)
@@incorectulpolitic Horses don’t run that fast.
@thecriticaldrinker still waiting on Pt. 2 mate! I loved this!
My mom, a black woman, despised The Last Jedi because of how they changed Luke. She said ain’t no way a man who went through what he did and succeed in turning his father away from the dark side would give up so easily. She hates Rey mainly because she was like ain’t no way a girl who’s never been trained gonna all of a sudden be better than the greatest Jedi of all time. She said Hollywood can miss her with that b.s.
The rise of the skywalker is actually the only Star Wars movie my mom refused to see because of what they did to Luke
What did she think of The Force Awakens?
@@Joetino she thought it was ok. The main thing she didn’t like was Rey being good at everything , but she didn’t hate it to a point where she wouldn’t continue to watch the series. TLJ was what made her be like “f*** this”
I had to convince her to give mandalorian season 1 and 2a chance because she had no more interest with Star Wars, without giving away the Luke bit at the end. She did and enjoyed it so much she watched the final episode twice back to back days. It’s not about the race or gender. It’s about heroes and characters we care about
You're mom is based af.
Obi-Wan Kenobi is the same as is Boba Fett. They have ruined the key characters but let us be honest those new movies are not real Star Wars movies. They are plastic cheap knockoff copies.
@@cat_bag_cat_bag yeah in my area the previews and advertisements made it seem like Finn was going to be the main character. There were billboards and posters of him holding lightsabers. Then the movie starts and I thought they had a cool concept to work with, a defective stormtrooper who may go train under Luke skywalker, but - nah. As soon as Rey and Finn were on screen together I knew what they were gonna do with him. My dad even said Disney was slick (and not in a good way) how they marketed it to make black people think Finn was going to be a bigger character than he was.
Spot on Drinker. Most of us are BEYOND tired of being infantilised, talked down to & patronised for the sake of it - all at the cost of everyone's entertainment.
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Exceptionally analytical video from the Drinker. I don't expect anything less. The only critique I disagree with is his argument against Man of Steel and Daniel Craig's Bond. Sure, there was a little bit of the "modern audience" trope in No Time To Die but it was played more for a laugh but I don't think it occurred to an absurd degree in the film. No female character there outmatched him and he was clearly the better and more experienced spy trying desperately to protect the only family he's ever had. In the previous movies he was pretty much the same James Bond we know and love but the one with the most character development. So while I see his points, I also don't think it's as bad as he makes it sound like. Maybe the weakest Bond but not the worst.
For the former, Superman was grappling with his place in the world but when he finally steps it up, he does it with strength and in the end defeats the bad guy of the movie while simultaneously saving the world singlel-handedly, he even gets the girl at the end. That overall outcome is actually against the "modern audience" crap we get shoveled in our faces that is in every other franchise now.
I really felt that point about men talking too much in movies nowadays. I was watching Amazon's Reacher and they actually use that silence dang well.
That's something I hadn't noticed, but as soon as Drinker started explaining it, it all clicked. A lot of it is in the Marvel formula of wise cracking characters, but it's more broad than just Marvel. You don't see as many Stoic male characters now as you used to - and if there are stoic male characters, they are often the villain.
Yeah it's a shame the actor that plays him is a woke clown that hopped on the 'ban guns' bandwagon after we had a shooting. Dude is Canadian.
John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, and Richard Burton wrote the book on stoic males, they perfected the 5 second silent look-on-the-face that says 100 times more than ten minutes of modern whiny dialogue. When actors talked less you paid more attention to when they spoke and it had more impact, now they talk like long-winded politicians that makes you want to drift into a coma.
I don't mind dialogue heavy men. Hell, one of my favorite movies has a lot of dialogue by men. Pulp Fiction. Although funny thing is the most stoic, non talkative charcter, Butch (Bruce Willis) ended up on the winning side. Although you could argue Marsellis was mostly a stoic character as well. Don't mind me, I'm an old fart. Good thing I can go back to all my old movies and not watch this new crap.
@@JimmyMon666 But Tarantino knows how to write conversations and uses silence wisely too. Between men or women.
I guess that's the difference, modern writers are too socially inept to write a real conversation between real people.
This applies to real life as well. I am in my mid 40s and have been single most of my life -by choice. I was in the military for over 20 years. Never seemed fair to date long term while being gone etc…. As I go through my life, I see this as I date women now. On a date with a new woman, regardless of her age, If I sit quietly and reflect on a question before I answer, I come across as too slow for her or uncaring because I don’t spit out some pre approved answer. It all boils down to how much I make and how much I am willing to put up with bs and unrealistic expectations. In reality, I just sit there and can tell in moments how much we will be compatible. I pity any man who is just starting out in this world and has to put up with all this stuff. At least I remember how things used to be. Good luck out there.
It’s a strange world when even Superman is not allowed to be hopeful and inspiring
Watch Superman and Lois.
@@Сайтамен I'd add a caveat and say don't watch anything after the first season.
strange indeed, and depressing
This issue arose in books too... Mainly the YA genre, targeted for teens, is full of anti-men ideals and even the teen reader community on tiktok or instagram goes out of their way to make content around man-hating female protagonists who outpower their male counterparts in every way, or they make thirst edits around male characters who get dominated by the female protags each scene they're in together. It's honestly disgusting.
I'd say hilarious. They seem to be overcompensating.
You're not wrong, here. I've been reading and collecting the works of a particular Sci-fi/ Fantasy writer for the better part of 35 years. I've truly enjoyed most of his stories, storylines, series, and genres, hence why I collected and kept the books, including tracking down a few autographed copies of my most favourite ones.
However; I've noticed in the last decade a tendency to add a bit of wokeness where, to be sincere, it was completely unnecessary to the plot or feeling of the book. It didn't affect things, except to just "be there, because..." . I find that annoying.
The additions had no beneficial or detrimental effect on the story/ plot direction at all, so they really shouldn't bother me, right ? Yet they did, because they were so out-of-place in a writing style that has remained solid and very well structured for decades... Why the change ?
Did he feel pressured to be inclusive and add these little bits in his stories so that he " was covered" should the Woke Police critique him for not writing with these characters in mind ?
I still enjoy his work. That hasn't changed. I just wince when the woke stuff gets interjected...
Nearly a half-century of successful writing without this... but now, it's there. Did his style change, or did society change and he reflects it in his work, or did societal pressure force a change...?
+Nameless I don't think what you are saying is true. There are not full of anti-men ideas at all. I would say they are far too woke but to say they are anti-men is just a misrepresentation. My view on this - is we were due a correction - from male-dominated stories for years and years and that we will get a correction to this over-wokeness too
It's why I hate the YA fantasy genre, especially the books touted by bookstagram and booktok: nearly every one of them has a "strong", "badass" female lead who's as interesting as cardboard and falls in love with a male character who's basically just eye candy. It feels like this decade's entire readership is made up of girls who think the only books worth reading (and writing, sadly) are ones that care more about female empowerment and representation than story and it makes me sad.
This is just my opinion, but I think the Hunger Games is a good example of YA fiction with a female lead that doesn't go anti-boys/men. Katniss has flaws and insecurities and she doesn't look down on Peeta, even though she is the one to save him and not the other way around as it was often depicted. Too bad Jenifer Lawrence's comments is all that we think now when we see Katniss on page/screen...
A more accurate description is that he turned Luke Skywalker into Mark Hamill
I swear to you, that line from demolition man, were Sylvester Stallone said "put me back in the fridge" is becoming a reality every single day that passes by.
Thank you, I forgot about that line, it says everything in a short sentence.
What's wrong with Creed? Too black?
@@juniorm641 tbh it's the only one I disagreed with because Rocky dying makes sense, he lost everybody and feels fulfilled so going out like that is fine to him
“Demolition Man”? Another awesome movie that was way ahead of its time.👍
I say EVERY day that I wish that damn asteroid would hurry up and get here
Lee van Cleef's epic face acting during the final duel against Indigo. No words, stoic acting, one of the most iconic scenes in all cinema
Big big fan of that movie.
The fact that modern writers can't understand just how much was actually being conveyed by the actors in that moment without words is why most of them shouldn't be allowed to call themselves writers. You don't need to explicitly tell the audience every single 'nuance' of your script just to make sure they appreciate how smart you think you are....
@TheCriticalDrinker_00 FAKOF BOT
IMO the primary difference in modern character writing as it relates to male and female characters is the idea of hubris.
A common trope of male characters is they will be overconfident in their abilities and pick a fight they're not properly prepared for. Generally this grants them some revelation as to the value of teamwork, the wisdom of elders. etc., and they use their new knowledge to overcome their failure.
The opposite applies to female characters. In general they've had what it takes all along; they just have to get rid of what's been holding them back and really believe in themselves. This almost invariably results in unrelatable female characters that have no character development and don't learn anything substantial.
Strong men let's unite. No whimps allowed
It feels like creative writing is in its dark age. Not just in films and shows, but in games aswell
The entire entertainment industry is suffering from this. It's a mix of what you mentioned and the rise of corporatism and the product no longer being made to please the customer, but to milk the customer of all they got.
Videogames still got it but yea, a lot of the triple A and even some double A level games are either stale, uninteresting, or lazy
Don’t forget comic books
People are lacking real world experiences so they have nothing to write about. When you live in an artificial society and can create your own echo chamber without going hungry, you don't have to interact with the world.
Yeah and now ais gonna probably make that worse too :((( companies are practically drooling over replacing their workers with it
I'm glad you mentioned Emily Blunt. I just finished watching The English on Amazon and I'm not sorry I checked it out. Truth be told, given Amazon's recent track record, Emily's speech to Hollywood was the only reason I bothered to watch it in the first place. And I'm glad I did, because it was a smart, mature, well constructed story that I was almost immediately able to get invested in. And she put her money where her mouth was by showing that it's possible to have a strong, smart and resourceful female protagonist who is neither an obnoxious gas bag, nor a complete Mary Sue. AND here's a real shocker: she and her equally strong, smart and resourceful male protagonist succeed by complimenting each other's strengths and weaknesses. AND the male lead protagonist is of an ethnic minority. And I didn't care, because the diversity wasn't shoehorned in where it didn't make any sense for it to be. Imagine writing a story whose focus is on being a good story...
I didn't like the show, but i didn't have any major complaints, just wasnt my thing I guess.
Go and check Edge of Tomorrow. Emily blunt and tom cruise depicting interesting, believable and relatable strong but flawed female and male leads in a fun and yet serious and epic sci-dying action movie. A little gem (also recommended by The Drinker by the way)
@@j.monton8172 I saw it when it came out and liked it.
@@j.monton8172 it's also funnily enough technically one of the very few good "manga" (forgot if it was a manga or light novel) live action adaptations out there
Yeah, Emily Blunt is on the right side of this and has no time for one dimensional Mary Sue characters. The English portrays this excellently.
I kept telling my friends and family that this is what movies are now. They didn't listen at first, then saw how right I was, now they listen to me... figures
Sometimes ya gotta let them see for themselves
Sad movies have become so mediocre.
However badass Pete "Maverick" Mitchell was, he was immediately broken down, taken down a peg, by a far more intelligent female...BAR OWNER.
Modern movies are made for modern audiences; single mother households.
Hell, in my household they didn't listen at first. Now we don't even watch american movies anymore.
I'm 33 year old MAN from Finland! Thank God I'm not 10-15 years younger! I have gay friends and I don't have any problems with gay people in general. What I do have problems with is that many of the things I say and do are considered toxic nowadays. Don't get me wrong.. I couldn't care less but I have a son who's 7 years old! Sometimes it feels like the society expects me to wear him in to a pink dress with fairy wings and force him to play with dolls.. not until hell freezes over!!
I never would've imagined the modern west would've reached this level of absolute self-hatred. All the coolest heroes from my childhood feel so far away now. Thanks for bringing them back even a little bit Drinker.
It really self-hatred for things they didn't even do.
There's no nuance to it either.
This hatred was imported by joooos.
Just watch old movies.
and his critics have nothing but strawmen, lies, and "thought-stopping clichee" labels like "reactionary" etc for him, as communists do
I’m a girl and the title alone made me say “YES”. These “writers” cannot write men to save their lives. It’s sad to me because men and boys deserve their heroes too. They deserve to be taken seriously and not treated as a joke. 80s and 90s movies were perfect on portraying strong men and women. Writers back then were masters of their craft. Sadly, we have writers who care more about The Message rather than writing an interesting story.
I'm not so sure about this "80's knew strong men" trope; at least not if you take sitcoms into account. In Married ... with children, in ALF and even in The Cosby Show the male protagonists have been kinda jerks, while their wives, even PEggy Bundy, were superior to them and lovingly tolerating their foolishness. Maybe that's where it all started ...
I was thinking about this yesterday. Strong men are hard to find in mainstream movies.
A weird thing about nowdays is if I made a joke that "where hav all the good dads gon" bc they'r all jokes, idiots, or submissive, and someone will tell me cool dads are everywhere, using She Hulk as an example...😶
Sorry, how are they not submissive or stupid man? Girls of my gen are doomed.🤦♀️ At least video game men can still be cool
I watch 80s and 90s movies about 50x more than anything from the past decade.
Heck Kevin Mccallister is a better role model from the 90's and he is only 8 in the first film
@@Rezzatoni you make a solid point that the 80s family sitcom marks a huge uptick in pathetic make leaders, however 80s movies are without a doubt home to some of the manliest lead characters ever. I mean, basically every actor that had a role in an Expendables movie had their heyday in the 80s.
Props for including scenes from Unbreakable. An underrated gem of a movie. Too bad M. Night had to go and ruin the character.
Yeah it’s a good flick from memory. Been a long time though.
Shyamalan was David's _real_ Kryptonite.
Unbreakable was great. Split was good/great. Glass ruined it all.
Owning the conversation by making the other party wait just a little for one's response is an incredibly powerful tool. It is not a form of toxic masculinity, it is just a means of getting a derailing situation back on track again. A problem is meant to be solved, and emotional responses does not solve anything. A level head and rational thoughts solves problems.
Recently watched Clint Eastwood's Dollars Trilogy along with Hang Em High. I am not one for spaghetti westerns, but watching those movies was refreshing for my mind and soul, both as a man, and a regular adult in general. Also have a greater appreciation for actors like Lee Van Cleef. These films may be before our time, but I highly recommend to watch them. Films like A Fistful of Dollars are iconic for a reason.
Now put 'A Town Called Bastard' on your watch list!
You don't have to be from a same time as a movie in order to appreciate it. The first time I remember watching the Dollars trilogy I was six years old, and these movies came out more than thirty years before I was born.
@@bmmaaate Yessir! 👍
@@azh698 Actually, I think it is all the more reason to watch them. People be missing out.
Lee Van Cleef could kill a man with a stare.
Jennene in ghostbusters was part of the subtle jokes in that movie. Rather than micromanage or ignore the competent secretary, they let her do her job. Winston was another multilayer joke: Man applies to help wanted ad, gets hired. That's part of the charm with Ghostbusters, in that it really is the ideal start up. They knew their strengths, but they also knew their weaknesses and were not afraid to delegate. It's such a brilliant story when you look at it.
Great point!
I think the dynamic between Jennene and the men just emphasised their personalities - They were used to life at the university where they didn't really need to work that hard so they were quite happy for jennene to do all their paperwork and admin (even though they knew that some of it was not really her responsibility).
Actually Winston AND Ernie Hudson got fucked over bigly. Winston wasn't supposed to be just some random. He was supposed to be ex-Air Force. Even an officer if I recall right. Wonder why that was changed....hmmm....
@@marcusalexander7088 Really who says that he wasn't? its been a while but all i can remember about his background in the movie is the "do you believe in ghosts?" "i'll believe anything if theres a paycheck in it.", his previous background is completely irrealivant to the plot of the movie.
@@stevenscott2718 Who says? Ernie Hudson. You think I just pulled that out me arse. HE should know and B)Ex-Air Force is..shall we say..CLASSIER than just being some random who wandered in looking for a job.
Emily Blunt and Tom Cruise in The Edge of Tomorrow was such a fantastic pairing that played so well off one another.
only work Both with White European
nobody want Watch Black or hispanic huekk
@LegendaryPredalien12 •. Basically making her act like a Man than a woman.... what made her "fantastic"? Because there's no difference if instead of her would have been a man acting the same character.
@@luiseduardomurillomartinez did you even watch the movie? She was a soldier who was forced to die possibly thousands of times to win an impossible fight against a damn near unbeatable enemy, she didn't act like a man, she acted like a jaded, brutalized person.
What made her great in the movie is she accepted her role as an icon after the battle of Verdun even though she was aware the fight was hopeless, she still tried to fight it to the end like a badass soldier.
Really earned the title Full Metal Bitch, just like Vasquez in Aliens was a total goddamn badass.
@@LegendaryPredalien12 Physically, if we cut her hair and removed her breasts it wouldn't make much difference. In the same way in what she does and how she behaves.
Like Sarah Connor in T2; You probably like her too, because she fits the same description you did of Emili Blunt's character. But basically they both look more masculine than a lot of modern male characters.
(It's already relatively common to see male characters like this fashion designer talking to Ema Stone. ruclips.net/video/5qmNw-biOTE/видео.html )
And not to mention Emili Blunt's handling of the character, which basically puts him above Tom Cruise. She trains him, teaches him to fight, maybe for you there is no problem, but for example 40 or 50 years ago it was a crazy and ridiculous idea for a woman to teach a Man how to fight, and fighting is not exactly feminine, even if you try to say otherwise.
And surely you will try to justify that with the plot of the movie, but that's how they wrote it and decided, that doesn't justify anything. They could, as I said, put a male actor.
@@luiseduardomurillomartinez Ok so you admit it makes sense of the plot of the movie, not to mention you're aware there wearing Exosuits that massively enhance their strength and speed. If anything in one of those suits your personal flexibility would be more important than strength or build of the user, but coming back to your point, yes it could have been a man, but it in no way detracts from the movie or plot that it's a woman.
If anything it's just impressive how well Emily was about to convincingly pull off such a badass persona, stellar performance.
I actually picked up on this trend here in the U.S. around 2010. The commercials started making specifically Caucasian men incompetent and (insert DEI here) has the answer or fixed the problem. I told my wife at the time that the script was being completely flipped. I didnt expect the dumpster fire that has been the 14 years that followed though.
In my opinion Aragorn is the ultimate pinnacle of what a man can and should be. films and tv shows need more men like him
@Nope ye i mean aragorn certainly does inspire other men and thats a good thing
He succeeded because two unlikely heroes, Frodo and Sam, were willing to give their lives.
@Filipa Antonia Barata de Araujo I agree. Everyone succeeded because of everyone else it was a group effort, it was the free people's coming together as one to defeat sauron. No one in the fellowship would have found success without the others.
@NopeMost women are shallow creatures, they are only attracted to a man if he either has good looks with Rambo's physique or is rich or just both. You can lash out now and disagree all you want, that is the truth.
@@filipaantoniabaratadearauj1749 he succeeded because there wasnt a bunch of 50 eyequeue bwack wahmn messing everyrhinf up