Why Modern Movies Suck - They Hate Men (Part 1)

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2023
  • Masculine male characters seem to be a dying breed in modern movies. Why? Well, I've got a few ideas...
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  • @gabrielmartins-xt6rx
    @gabrielmartins-xt6rx Год назад +5287

    "Anything masculine is bad, unless it's a woman doing it."

    • @peakdennis1
      @peakdennis1 Год назад +1

      Can you imagine prime Newman, Redford, McQueen, Eastwood and Gibson existing in hollywood today. No I can't either because they'd never be given a single role, the millions of morons today would be offended by everything they represented. Chris Hemsworth and pals AKA the watered down versions of those fuckin legends will also go extinct one day because of how offended by masculinity "modern audience's" now are.

    • @incorectulpolitic
      @incorectulpolitic Год назад +47

      Back when I used to reddit, I made a post asking people what would they say if they had to convince someone to come here and be their kid? The catch was, whatever was omitted was sure to happen. Surprise surprise, no one had shit to say. It's crazy because there's this subreddit about the earth being a prison planet and even with that perspective people were still saying they'd have kids. It was remarkably unbelievable. I'm like "why would you bring people to prison on purpose?" Makes no sense.
      I understand not having come to that awareness yet, but once you do...how in tf can you justify cursing someone?? They'd say "it's better we have the kids so we can tell them the truth about this prison planet" and I'd say "so you're going to bring someone to prison just so you can tell them they're in prison? How about don't bring them to prison at all?" People kill me. Selfish desires apparently override sensibility; nothing new under the sun, I guess.
      '#[]

    • @prodyung829
      @prodyung829 Год назад +2

      It's not that masculine women are bad is that a lot of masucline women take it overboard and be too argumentative, combative, nonagreeable. What man would want that? none! Most men a long day at work when I come to a nice warming loving wife not some argumentative woman.

    • @gabrielmartins-xt6rx
      @gabrielmartins-xt6rx Год назад +192

      @@prodyung829 If they want to write women like that, no problem, my problem is with the double standard of chatising men for certain characteristics and praising the same ones when it's on a woman. If being angry and agressive is bad on a man, the same should be aplied to women, at least make the effort to be consistent on your views.

    • @mabaker
      @mabaker Год назад +4

      Unless Mikhalia doing it and nice guys fawning on her.

  • @The-Last-Prime
    @The-Last-Prime Год назад +7036

    It's funny, they don't want men to stereotype them and yet they sterotype men.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Год назад +464

      Hypocrisy and irony knows no bounds or limits

    • @LarryBonson
      @LarryBonson Год назад +153

      The stereotype plans into the moral high ground by them blocking any stereotypes of them while stereotypes us gives them the moral high ground advantage.

    • @sew_gal7340
      @sew_gal7340 Год назад +215

      The weird thing is that modern writers hate men but create female characters with all the stereotypes and tropes of strong male characters....so strange and weird. There's also nothing wrong with feminine women, in fact feminine women are possibly more powerful than masculine men as one requires brute strength while the others require mental finesse.

    • @abodieqwerty4678
      @abodieqwerty4678 Год назад +170

      @@sew_gal7340 masculine men aren't all brute strenght.

    • @jadedforeman1503
      @jadedforeman1503 Год назад

      It's almost like they're just scumbags with a chip on their collective shoulders instead of real idealogues.

  • @aurallistine
    @aurallistine 8 месяцев назад +203

    Men want to watch strong male characters, women want to watch strong male characters; who are they trying appeal to?!

    • @jefferyjeff7132
      @jefferyjeff7132 3 месяца назад +12

      It’s a Chinese psyop

    • @easygoingperson8787
      @easygoingperson8787 2 месяца назад +29

      They’re trying to appeal to snowflakes, teenagers, and maybe even adult idiots too.

    • @aurallistine
      @aurallistine 2 месяца назад +15

      @@easygoingperson8787 I'm a teenager and I would never watch this woke stuff

    • @tavaresemanuel640
      @tavaresemanuel640 Месяц назад +5

      @@Neddinator Leave Forrest Gump out of this, don't give them any ideas. Pretty sure they would find a way to consider Forrest Gump toxic.

    • @rekik2936
      @rekik2936 Месяц назад +2

      @@aurallistine W.

  • @Notanymore715
    @Notanymore715 10 месяцев назад +124

    My father told me this once as a kid "dont change a perfectly normal tire, it will just waste your time" bless him

  • @TheSektorz
    @TheSektorz Год назад +5235

    Can't write men, can't write women, can't write people..... Can't write humor, can't write good wholesome messages...
    Basically modern movies suck because investors are telling Disney, Netflix, HBO Max and the rest to hire writers and directors based on their tweets, not on skills or experience.

    • @jimmyb79
      @jimmyb79 Год назад +92

      Completely agree

    • @petriew2018
      @petriew2018 Год назад +298

      ironically they can't write women either anymore.... they work way to hard to make them all dudes....

    • @need-to-know-
      @need-to-know- Год назад +134

      They just suck at writing anything but their signature on checks.

    • @r3altalangodfrey39
      @r3altalangodfrey39 Год назад +32

      EXCUSE ME....EXCUSE ME, SIR! How else do you expect US to do the gr3atres3t, if we, at vanguard, state street and black rock and our overlord from the WEF/davos doesn't guide Disney, Netflix and HBO Max to the right way of things, like agenda 2o3o....y'all didn't even the shot, so we can't even do the Georgia Guildstones.
      what do you want US to do, dammit?

    • @perry92964
      @perry92964 Год назад +27

      if the investors are woke then they want a woke project, no investor is going to risk money on something they think might fail unless they need a huge tax right off.

  • @O-M-0
    @O-M-0 Год назад +7665

    Seeing that quote from Feige where the entire character of Doctor Strange was reduced down to simply "white male" really exemplifies the problems with the current creative scene. Writers genuinely seem to care more about the race and gender of a character than any of their other traits.

    • @liamphibia
      @liamphibia Год назад +259

      Audiences and even die-hard fans would've loved seeing Stephan make an appearance in WandaVision!

    • @twobighams
      @twobighams Год назад +92

      Yea, just like I don't deduce Benedict Cumberbatch is a terrible actor because of his attempt (or lack thereof) of a Boston accent in Black Mass. He's a pretty good actor, but christ that was bad.

    • @Pointman11111
      @Pointman11111 Год назад +67

      I hate that he said
      Its so dumb but still i don't believe that it was a story reason why he didn't appear
      We know the Pandemic messed up almost every MCU movie and series
      The finale of WandaVision felt rushed and like many plot points weren't resolved

    • @ohnosmoarlulcatz
      @ohnosmoarlulcatz Год назад +169

      Doctor Strange also got mansplained by America Chavez.

    • @MrGhosta5
      @MrGhosta5 Год назад +91

      He could have just lied and said Benedict Cumberbatch had a scheduling conflict and couldn't make the filming.

  • @Whaddayamean13
    @Whaddayamean13 Год назад +834

    They hate women too. They've taken this "ain't no damsel in distress" concept too far to the point where these female characters aren't compelling at all. I don't think they realize that characters who are seriously flawed are MORE interesting not less. Female characters can't be feminine or beautiful or graceful anymore because we think that's weak now. No it's not. Women have their own strong traits that are different from men. It's the balance of masculine and feminine that makes it work: one can't work without the other.

    • @viniciusvalois2634
      @viniciusvalois2634 11 месяцев назад +47

      No matter the time or age, modern or old-school TV and movies, there is a pattern that always repeats flawlessly:
      Male-oriented productions show men as being strong, badass, creative, brainy, focused, adventurous and ambitious but always portraying women in the same positive light of an "ideal companionship"; on the other hand, female-oriented productions always are an obligatory shitstorm of "fem power everywhere, males are abusive monsters or weakling idiots".
      That's why I prefer movies from the mid-1990s and backwards (Sean Connery's James Bond is an impeccable classic), because they valued and respected men above anything without limiting them to "walking penises or mindless killing machines".

    • @petee1968
      @petee1968 10 месяцев назад +23

      Hollywood just hates characters, period.

    • @linsqopiring6816
      @linsqopiring6816 10 месяцев назад +18

      That's not hating women that's when trying to make them superior to men goes wrong.

    • @linsqopiring6816
      @linsqopiring6816 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@viniciusvalois2634 Very astute observations. IT's not turning the tables. The tables were never so lop sided.

    • @ms-ht1cj
      @ms-ht1cj 9 месяцев назад +8

      Because "women traits" are not respected, it's no wonder no one wants to be described like this. 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @englishdogs
    @englishdogs 11 месяцев назад +353

    Most men like strong male characters; most women like strong male characters, but no... we can't have them anymore, can we?

    • @darnit1944
      @darnit1944 9 месяцев назад +50

      Most men and women like strong female characters. We just don't like flawless Mary Sues without weaknesses.

    • @Attmay
      @Attmay 9 месяцев назад

      Gay men want and NEED them more than anyone else. They have been systematically destroying everything Gay MEN like since the end of the 1960s. First movie musicals, then disco, now our bodies.

    • @hikkamorii
      @hikkamorii 9 месяцев назад +26

      @@darnit1944 strong characters, no matter your or character's gender are aspiring. Issue is that writing actual strong characters is difficult, and may be misunderstood by certain people.

    • @DiederikHuys
      @DiederikHuys 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah well Terminator managed to combine both strong male AND female characters in one franchise. Who could have known! @@darnit1944

    • @darnit1944
      @darnit1944 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@DiederikHuys By franchise you mean T1, T2, and Salvation right?

  • @SheldonAdama17
    @SheldonAdama17 Год назад +6394

    “I’m surrounded by a lot of women in this department. And that includes the men” - Ron Swanson

    • @the-real-Lovefist
      @the-real-Lovefist Год назад +132

      Couldn’t have said it better myself

    • @deadman4231
      @deadman4231 Год назад +229

      As expected, the bot links to a video about how to make pizza

    • @SirWeedBongVentura
      @SirWeedBongVentura Год назад +32

      Every day I put my feet on the floor, I know I am soon to walk amidst the parasites.

    • @SeraphsWitness
      @SeraphsWitness Год назад +239

      I love how Ron was meant to be some outrageous parody, but he ends up making more sense than anyone on the show.

    • @MrJC1
      @MrJC1 Год назад +13

      @@deadman4231 yes but... its the full video of how to make it. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @KFP_Fanboy
    @KFP_Fanboy Год назад +5786

    they’ll never write better movies than the kung fu panda movies

  • @tromboneman4517
    @tromboneman4517 Год назад +377

    My personal biggest grievance is the abandonment of good vs. evil. There IS evil that needs to be destroyed. Not every story needs shades of gray, only a compelling villain that needs destruction.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 11 месяцев назад +44

      Yeah. They try to humanize evil cus they think it adds depth, but only makes it fucking goofy lol.

    • @ComfyCherry
      @ComfyCherry 9 месяцев назад

      so long as they don't feel the need to show the bad guy doing something evil to constantly remind us "hey, this guy, you hate him right?" by doing shit like killing off their own people and abusing people, those kinds of characters are too shallow to care about.
      Bad guy is bad, is one of the most annoying things a story can do. right behind this racist sexist shit pervasive in modern media.

    • @tommyhawk2065
      @tommyhawk2065 9 месяцев назад +24

      Well you can blame shows like Sopranos, GoT, Breaking Bad, The Shield, and pretty much Tarantino as well. One thing personally for me at least that was bad coming out of the 90s and the early 2000s was the obsession with 'understandable bad guy'.

    • @avrahamzucker2605
      @avrahamzucker2605 8 месяцев назад +3

      Be sure that good and evil get always twisted with Hollywood

    • @danielbadillo8334
      @danielbadillo8334 8 месяцев назад

      I think it's perfectly fine to have both types of characters. One of the reasons why Avatar the Last Airbender is one of my favorite shows is that it has three types of villains. Zuko is the initial conflicted villain with a redemption arc, Azula is the complex psychopath and Ozai is just a simple evil villain that must be stopped. It's pretty cool that they explored all of those different angles.@@tommyhawk2065

  • @jaffa3717
    @jaffa3717 10 месяцев назад +116

    It feels like creative writing is in its dark age. Not just in films and shows, but in games aswell

    • @sisigs4820
      @sisigs4820 4 месяца назад +13

      The entire entertainment industry is suffering from this. It's a mix of what you mentioned and the rise of corporatism and the product no longer being made to please the customer, but to milk the customer of all they got.

    • @kingwolf396
      @kingwolf396 12 дней назад

      Videogames still got it but yea, a lot of the triple A and even some double A level games are either stale, uninteresting, or lazy

  • @chucksenhowzen9740
    @chucksenhowzen9740 Год назад +3789

    Doesn’t help when the “modern” writers discard the source material & just write about their lives like RoP, She Hulk, Willow, and most fantasy genres today

    • @Icetea-2000
      @Icetea-2000 Год назад +95

      @hope. Don’t like that comment you absolute tools, it’s a bot as well

    • @theinnerlight8016
      @theinnerlight8016 Год назад +147

      She-hulk is pretty much the worst thing ever trying to get away as a TV show.

    • @Pointman11111
      @Pointman11111 Год назад

      @@theinnerlight8016 why?

    • @bearjuncture
      @bearjuncture Год назад +59

      And now Velma

    • @maestrogeicho
      @maestrogeicho Год назад +12

      She Hulk is literally the most comic accurate MCU entry to date.

  • @Falconlibrary
    @Falconlibrary Год назад +1171

    I'm shocked to learn that people who went straight from their parents' suburban mansions to Ivy League schools and then into a coveted job writing scripts don't know anything about men, about women, about life. Who could've seen that coming?

    • @professorbaxtercarelessdre1075
      @professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 Год назад +48

      ikr, what a shocker lol

    • @reapordeath
      @reapordeath Год назад +32

      *stirs coffee with a stirring stick*
      Ya don' say???
      👁👄👁

    • @daniels848
      @daniels848 Год назад +11

      capitalism baby

    • @SUPREMELEGEND
      @SUPREMELEGEND Год назад +67

      Do you really think that's what's happening here? I think it's far more likely that the powers that be are purposely destroying masculinity in film by making the movies bad on purpose.

    • @warlock_r
      @warlock_r Год назад +4

      @@SUPREMELEGEND Why? I'm honestly curious to the reason they'd want to make bad movies.

  • @maskedvillainai
    @maskedvillainai 5 месяцев назад +36

    Ironically this all began with a push for more open mental health discussion and the expectations of men seen as weak for sharing any emotion. But they exploited it. And it became something completely fallacious

  • @GordoFabulous
    @GordoFabulous Год назад +123

    What else is lacking from modern media? Sons. Seriously, pay attention to commercials, and see how long it takes you to find two instances of a man and his son having a positive interaction.
    I haven't paid much attention to movies, but I am going to start paying more attention there.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 11 месяцев назад +22

      That is so fucking true bruh.
      I have literally never seen a son in a modern commercial before. Their all daughters.
      It feels like some weird 2012 thing seeing an actual son in a commercial.

    • @XVXC-M8
      @XVXC-M8 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@honkhonk8009 wdym 2012 thing?

    • @darnit1944
      @darnit1944 9 месяцев назад +16

      Especially for black people. I saw a video of Terry Crews and his son bonding over games and it warms my heart.
      If black empowerment is so important, why not create movies about an awesome black dad who loves his family more than ever, amirite?

    • @rosabellavitaalvarez-calde5836
      @rosabellavitaalvarez-calde5836 9 месяцев назад +5

      The Mandalorian, even the weakest chapters, are a perfectly wonderful depiction of a father-son relationship.

    • @user-ey9ww3wb8s
      @user-ey9ww3wb8s 6 месяцев назад +1

      Many fathers go get milk and never return. Now we see the shift in society. It took 30 years.

  • @Guh_roomer_Gravedigger
    @Guh_roomer_Gravedigger Год назад +1877

    I'm a single dad and I home school my son and I found a group of mainly women who do the same and we get the kids together about twice a week and do it together. We where just chatting one day and the topic of movies came up and I was genuinely surprised when pretty much all the women in our group made the same complaints about men in movies and how they where just sick and tired of the, in their words " absolute stupidity of the female characters being so over powered and the men having to be so weak to make them look good". I took my son to see Maverick and he loved it, when we did the next group event my son went on and on about it to the other kids, the Mums thought it would be good to take their kids and invited us as well and they all loved it.

    • @Aurora-313
      @Aurora-313 Год назад +183

      Glad to hear you had that positive experience, mate. Hope the mums and kids in your playgroup enjoy it too. :)

    • @thehydrationman5500
      @thehydrationman5500 Год назад +88

      The good ending

    • @Keirnoth
      @Keirnoth Год назад +113

      Maverick is like the last man standing in a sea of sht movies that hate men.

    • @maximusaralieous1728
      @maximusaralieous1728 Год назад +69

      Not surprised to see that people who home school their kids would agree on this. Typically people home school because they do not like the school systems or what is being taught in school, so they are already more aware of these problems than most. Glad to see though, more people who notice, the more the push back will begin.
      I don't know if you are in the US, I suppose the 'mums' part of your comment makes me want to clarify that, but since Trump has been kicked out and everyone isn't hysterically fight each other politically, a lot of the moderates that were so upset with Trump have also begun to see the cultural shifts being pushed by the progressive left. A natural push back is starting to happen, though not as forceful as it needs to be yet.

    • @mehitablestorm8877
      @mehitablestorm8877 Год назад +1

      Real women love strong men. It's natural. Men are there to protect women, children, the family and society. And we women know when we're presented with phony female heroes who couldn't really do any of the things they're shown doing. Like "Lady" Thor. Such a load of crap.

  • @honkiavelli8044
    @honkiavelli8044 Год назад +1400

    This video summarizes why "Top Gun Maverick" did extremely well at the box office. People were yearning for a strong, male lead with all the traditional throwback hero values, so this movie provided them with those.

    • @Akashi-js6rx
      @Akashi-js6rx Год назад +136

      It also genuinely felt like a story actually waiting to be told, rather than a shoehorned shitty sequel that's really just a retcon of the whole series to bring the spotlight on an unlikable wahman cuz how dare the main lead be a guy. You could logically see the story of TG2 carry over from the original, a major dynamic being letting go of historical baggage respectfully and making amends in the present with his deceased buddy's son.

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 Год назад +44

      Also practical effects looked awesome.

    • @wordoftheday7650
      @wordoftheday7650 Год назад +21

      Top Gun Maverick was successful for the same reason Micheal Bay movies are, it was military propaganda

    • @honkiavelli8044
      @honkiavelli8044 Год назад +104

      @@wordoftheday7650 you must be fun at parties...

    • @wordoftheday7650
      @wordoftheday7650 Год назад +2

      @@honkiavelli8044 I mean this is a video whining about how men aren’t stoic anymore, as if that’s like an attack on men… which is pretty ironic, because that comes off as whining to me

  • @Justin-ic4co
    @Justin-ic4co 10 месяцев назад +28

    The main, massive problem I have with modern Luke Skywalker is with his immediate character. Obi-wan in the original trilogy praised him for his insight, "Your insight serves you well." NO WHERE in the new movies does Luke even have much less use this gift. He shows none of the characteristics from his younger version. One could argue that he had a really tough time and all his padawans were killed ok sure blah blah, but the point of insight is to understand something so clearly that a realization dawns upon you. For example, when he figured out that Leia is his sister or at the VERY END OF THE OT when he looks upon Vader and sees he has cyborg parts. He realizes that what he's about to do will make him the Emperor's apprentice so he STOPS. You expect me to believe that after seeing Ben fall to the dark side he's just gonna say, "oh well, guess the dark side wins. GG". No. Absolutely, no. He would have done literally anything else than sit on the sidelines waiting for death. The writers completely FUCKED his character. #notmyluke

  • @user-xg6yc8ho3w
    @user-xg6yc8ho3w 10 месяцев назад +60

    The writers aren't incapable of depicting strong, smart, and capable men characters. They are told not to. The real reason for this movement is to weaken men psychologically and socially. Because a powerful lion of a man who thinks critically and for himself is the most dangerous thing to the powers that are trying to control this world.

    • @byhxlau
      @byhxlau 8 месяцев назад +1

      You mean incapable women?

  • @jeffboughtin5529
    @jeffboughtin5529 Год назад +551

    This is why Top Gun: Maverick was so successful. It was one of very few recent movies that showed a positive, successful man.

    • @Nimbereth
      @Nimbereth Год назад +20

      My favorite movie of the year beside The Northman.

    • @Stevarooni
      @Stevarooni Год назад +10

      Peggy was his muse at one point, pushing him back to help his team, but he was still the hero.

    • @tmo_117
      @tmo_117 Год назад +10

      Agreed it was such a breath of fresh air, men dealing with hard times and hard moments but still pushing through finding the strength to be heroic and love, while also being smart for once and outsmarting the enemy. Compared to well…man he’s dumb and sexist where is his woman or diverse set of characters to correct him

    • @harshitnarang136
      @harshitnarang136 Год назад +5

      Definitely not. It was more glamorous than stoic. Beach bodies, cool haircuts, cool wardrobe, etc.

    • @guyderagisch4964
      @guyderagisch4964 Год назад

      That film got Navy politics to a T.

  • @jblackly
    @jblackly Год назад +523

    After hearing it so many times, "made for a modern audience" translates in my mind as "the beatings will continue until morale improves."

    • @taags
      @taags Год назад

      Its just code for marxist propaganda.

    • @LoveratLoves
      @LoveratLoves Год назад

      That was the comment I was originally going to make until I read yours =) It's the absolute truth.

    • @dairoleon2682
      @dairoleon2682 Год назад +3

      "And then they will continue."

    • @stevenscott2136
      @stevenscott2136 Год назад

      "Made for self-absorbed whiners, weaklings, parasites, and losers".

    • @samblack5313
      @samblack5313 Год назад

      😂😂

  • @dragonslayermasterornstein83
    @dragonslayermasterornstein83 9 месяцев назад +87

    The concept of a stoic man teaching a toxic boss girl about humblization would be incredibly interesting to watch. I mean think about it, The stoic man executes their actions night perfectly to show how experienced he is at what he does meanwhile the bossgirl keeps ln fumbling on trying to replicate the stoic man slowly realizing she has talents of her own that contributes as well. On topic of the fact that the bossgirl would yell at the stoic man until he simply responds with. "You're not acting like your age y'know." Before the boss girl screams again while the stoic man remains unphased. Would actually watch that.

    • @loodog555
      @loodog555 7 месяцев назад +6

      Kill Bill, Vol. 2.

    • @einundsiebenziger5488
      @einundsiebenziger5488 6 месяцев назад +1

      The stoic man (male, singular) executes his* actions. Looks like you fell for "non-toxic" grammar yourself😉.

    • @The_Mighty_Fiction
      @The_Mighty_Fiction 6 месяцев назад +1

      Do you mean 'humility?'

    • @aikalabe7719
      @aikalabe7719 5 месяцев назад +3

      This comment is a mess

  • @TobyKarelian-rn3ns
    @TobyKarelian-rn3ns 11 месяцев назад +39

    Speaking of stoicism, a Finnish director Aki Kaurismäki uses that trope in his films not just on men but on women too. This is one of those simple yet subtle methods to make strong female characters without losing valuation towards men.

    • @thelegacyofgaming2928
      @thelegacyofgaming2928 10 месяцев назад +5

      Stoicism and women don't make sense though. I've never met a woman in real life who is genuinely stoic. It's just not in their biology.

    • @TobyKarelian-rn3ns
      @TobyKarelian-rn3ns 10 месяцев назад +11

      @@thelegacyofgaming2928 Go to Finland. People there are quiet, maybe introverted but stoic and determined.

    • @VarunK-ii8eb
      @VarunK-ii8eb 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@TobyKarelian-rn3nsMen are more stoic.

    • @TobyKarelian-rn3ns
      @TobyKarelian-rn3ns 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@VarunK-ii8eb Of course they are. I'm not a moron. I'm just advertising my home country over here.

    • @TobyKarelian-rn3ns
      @TobyKarelian-rn3ns 10 месяцев назад

      @@thelegacyofgaming2928 Same to you.

  • @batmospheric
    @batmospheric Год назад +1781

    “You can’t have male mentors teaching women anything of value.” I actually love that you addressed this, growing up as a girl all of my on-screen heroes were men. Not because I disliked the women or that they were underrepresented, but I preferred the stoicism you’re talking about. I also watched chick-flicks with my mum of course and loved the feeling of being accepted simply because of belonging to the ‘girls club’ and female solidarity, but that felt more like learning social responsibility whereas I formed my individual sense of responsibility from what I saw from men on-screen and my dad. Who I am as a person today, and my work ethic and how I interact with others, are influenced by both genders, this modern idea that one side only is valid is equal to cutting off a leg and saying you prefer to be unbalanced instead of whole

    • @sup9542
      @sup9542 Год назад +143

      You mention you had a good dad, that's why you're not with the movement. My theory is most of the craziness is coming from people who didn't have a dad, who grew up with a single mother who taught them that men are trash, that their dad was a deadbeat and good riddance. Unfortunately we're continuing to trend in that direction where there are more kids growing up without a dad. Marriage rates are going down but women are still going to have babies. Men are increasingly considered unnecessary.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 Год назад +13

      @@sup9542 This Show, as Upper Echelon points out, is MEANT to be bad, so it generates Hateclicks.
      They WANT Engagement, so stop engaging.

    • @lesserspottedmugwump.363
      @lesserspottedmugwump.363 Год назад +38

      There are some great chick flicks. When Harry met sally, sleepless in Seattle. Ghost, dirty dancing.
      A good film is a good film.
      I’m a 40 year old 6’9” hairy dude. I watch Sex in the city once every 2 years. Miranda really resonates with me. A single parent with a high stress job.
      The person who said men can’t identify with a female character recently, can’t remember who it was, has obviously never asked any men.

    • @batmospheric
      @batmospheric Год назад +23

      @@sup9542 that’s the scariest thing, not necessarily. I do think that people without a dad or even a good male role model fall victim to these shenanigans, but my (older) siblings have as well. Although I will say that they got snagged up *after* cutting off our dad for how he voted, so that’s an interesting correlation for sure, that I never really thought about before

    • @batmospheric
      @batmospheric Год назад +19

      @@lesserspottedmugwump.363 oh wow, it’s so cool to hear this! I never really heard much growing up about men relating to women characters, so I didn’t think about it in my original comment, but you’re totally right. That director clearly forgets that men throughout history have praised and acknowledged women many times as inspirational

  • @dcfear8862
    @dcfear8862 Год назад +2031

    I've been noticing this for about 10 years now and every time I bring it up to my family they get on my case and call me sexist. It's getting ridiculous.

    • @ItsOlDino
      @ItsOlDino Год назад +247

      They are brainwashed

    • @simpdefendmlady6579
      @simpdefendmlady6579 Год назад +162

      They are misandrists

    • @gregorgerzson1767
      @gregorgerzson1767 Год назад +126

      "Sexist" - as an eastern-european, I literally never heard a person with brain using this word. Even if we were mocking females for something they just called us jerk and we all laugh.

    • @piip4
      @piip4 Год назад

      Sounds like they are projecting. It's no doubt they are the sexists holding such an opinion on men.

    • @simpdefendmlady6579
      @simpdefendmlady6579 Год назад +53

      @Gregor Gerzson Eastern European here. I've mocked the media and normies used that word to describe them every time they complained about female struggles while completely ignoring or denying male struggles

  • @johnrider3749
    @johnrider3749 9 месяцев назад +6

    James Bond is dead, Indiana Jones is now a frail weak frightened confused old man who just wants to die, Luke Skywalker became grumpy old drunk who just wanted to die, Is it me or is there a trend forming here ,

  • @generfeld
    @generfeld 10 месяцев назад +41

    Watching old movies from the 40s-80s is very eye opening and entertaining. The strong silent types, carry a big stick, etc. being in control and powerful but not immature about it. respectful, etc.

  • @tomsmithie3917
    @tomsmithie3917 Год назад +633

    Can't have a smart male character who doesn't lose to a woman at some point.

    • @Pointman11111
      @Pointman11111 Год назад +1

      A few are still there

    • @southcoastinventors6583
      @southcoastinventors6583 Год назад +1

      Doesn't matter any more with the AI coming down the pipeline will be able to make all the mainly movie for cheap, so just enjoy the comedy.

    • @natebowman7593
      @natebowman7593 Год назад +5

      Your white armor has arrived, Sir Simpalot.

    • @jasonrhodes9683
      @jasonrhodes9683 Год назад +27

      Poor Chris Himsworth, they have been casting him as the buffoon, in most of his movies of the last 6 or so years.

    • @Skitdora2010
      @Skitdora2010 Год назад

      My mom cheats at board games so everybody lost to her each time. You could even play Clue and she would not have shared that she had the wrench in her hand. The you call it and open the envelope and it was the damn rope and she would have a sheepish smile.

  • @thiefthearcher9907
    @thiefthearcher9907 Год назад +583

    I think one of my favorite scenes ever came from the first X-Men movies when Wolverine is just talking to Rogue in the car. She asks if it hurts when he pops his claws out, and he doesn’t go any further than saying “every time”. I like the simple and short responses, followed by the brief bits of silence in films. Let’s them linger.

    • @thiefthearcher9907
      @thiefthearcher9907 Год назад +1

      @Chad 007 Thanks, bro.

    • @thiefthearcher9907
      @thiefthearcher9907 Год назад +7

      @Chad 007 Okay, you got me. XD

    • @Volkbrecht
      @Volkbrecht Год назад +46

      This is something I realised when first watching Star Wars 7. I was enraged by how bad and badly copied the movie was from the original, but I was also unsure if I may not have been fooled by my fond memories. So after getting home frome the theatre, I rewatched Part 4, and boy what a contrast. Lucas in his day managed to convey so much more by doing so much less.

    • @nelisezpasce
      @nelisezpasce Год назад +5

      I was gonna say "Bryan Singer may be persona non grata..."
      But maybe that little moment that stuck with you is all thanks to David Hayter
      X-Men sounds nice (perhaps they won't even call it that anymore as it's "non-inclusive")
      I really hope they don't hijack that franchise just to keep us even more divided
      Stay vigilant, treasure your loved ones, be ready to let go and all that...

    • @wojak-sensei6424
      @wojak-sensei6424 Год назад +12

      That's not just a male acting thing, that's a movie thing in of itself. A mix of creative visual storytelling and solid acting to immerse yourself in that situation. If Logan just spilled every detail nonchalantly, then the potential for your audience to be intrigued diminishes.
      Men in general have this natural mastery to physical storytelling, and that they can convey a lot of information just with a few gestures and subtle expressions with little to no words. Just look at Sean Connery's James Bond to study on how a true *actor* portrays a suave, capable, and calculating man just with a few scenes of witty dialogue. Key word: *act.* He acts like a man, talks like a man, and thinks like a man.
      That's why when I see decent male actors act like immature, insecure dolts in media, I see it as a waste of talent.

  • @VVilla-zh5mw
    @VVilla-zh5mw 8 месяцев назад +13

    As a woman myself I really hate Hollywood's "WOKE" era !!!

  • @timothycody2270
    @timothycody2270 7 месяцев назад +2

    Movies are made by unhappy, emotionally disturbed people who aren't trying to be normal.

  • @rmwf8836
    @rmwf8836 Год назад +460

    When a character is stoic, it makes their emotional outbursts that much more impactful. If Captain Hero Man is shown to be stoic in almost every situation, but weep at his mother's grave, we know something important about him. If he cries at everything, who cares if he weeps at his mother's grave. He cried because a kitten meowed

    • @bluecoin3771
      @bluecoin3771 Год назад +49

      It’s the reason why the ending to Schindler’s List was so impactful. He earned that emotional scene after all that had happened. “Why did I keep this car, I could’ve saved ten more lives.”

    • @3dfreak2000
      @3dfreak2000 Год назад +15

      It reminds me to Brendan Fraser in the Bedazzled remake, where one of his multiple characters was an overly sensitive and emotional man that was crying for everything.😭😭😭

    • @mb8132
      @mb8132 Год назад +28

      Yes, this point resonates with me a lot. A great example for this is First Blood. Rambo endures everything thrown at him while the movie makes it clear he's having severe PTSD attacks but only at the end he finally breaks down emotionally, which is one of the biggest emotional payoffs in cinema.

    • @CommanderTato
      @CommanderTato Год назад +1

      @@bluecoin3771 he saved 60 millions or it were 6 or 600 million? 🙄

    • @mr.sinjin-smyth
      @mr.sinjin-smyth Год назад +8

      The game Watch Dogs had a classic stoic male character which critics called as generic, but was more memorable than anything the series has done since. Watch Dogs 2 had a forgettable hipster type.

  • @ThatGuy-ji1bs
    @ThatGuy-ji1bs Год назад +637

    When they constantly feel the need to make male characters look bad in order for the female characters to look good, do they not realise that it's really a sign of insecurity & weakness. Genuinely strong women can stand with men & have no desire to be against them like this. It's also a terrible message to send for both men & women.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Год назад +29

      NAILED IT!

    • @hungryowl1559
      @hungryowl1559 Год назад +67

      Their idea of a strong woman is weird as well. Theyre not annoying and going out of their way to be little the men around them. My boss is a woman and she has no need to belittle any of the men around her and she is well respected as someone who is calm and collected. Assertive when needed to be. Also lets us do our jobs with out constant check ins or displays of power.

    • @ruutjormun2262
      @ruutjormun2262 Год назад +25

      @@hungryowl1559 check out women in ground construction jobs. Well loved because of their relative femininity but also capability to pull her load in ways alternate to physical strength. starting out however, they're the butt end of 101 sexual jokes, which if they take well, they become part of the camaraderie

    • @lizardkid666
      @lizardkid666 Год назад

      @@hungryowl1559 than I thank god it’s not Cartimandus a straight up Celtic traitor, to the Romans over her own people

    • @pauperslament3467
      @pauperslament3467 Год назад +4

      Terrible message is the agenda.

  • @Garland042
    @Garland042 7 месяцев назад +14

    Having clint Eastwood in a video...even for a split second is more manly and badadss than anything Hollywood can muster...

  • @enjoyyoursleep1
    @enjoyyoursleep1 10 месяцев назад +18

    The deconstruction of the male, both on screen and off, is no accident. Awesome work! Subed!

  • @Leo-vd6cd
    @Leo-vd6cd Год назад +1911

    In the summer of 2022, I had a call with an editor to publish a manuscript I’d written; the meeting went very well and it looked as if I’d be made an offer, then she pulled a fast one, her complaint moving forward were in two parts: one, the manuscript was too masculine. Second, if I wanted to move forward towards an offer, most of those toxic males would need to be adapted so that they represented the LGBTQ. At the time, it was a real low point, but it was also an eye opener. I learned the art truly is in trouble but also who I was in the face of that trouble. I politely declined, the offer never came, I’m still shopping the book around, at the very least I know where I stand. Thank you Mr. Critical Drinker you brilliant beast of intellectually, for reminding me with video essays like this: stay the course.

    • @mr.overthink2179
      @mr.overthink2179 Год назад +44

      unrelated but nice Fate/Zero pfp, extremely underrated anime.

    • @jmal
      @jmal Год назад

      Wow, even at the publishing level these people try to inject their woke nonsense. Nothing is sacred to them, it seems.

    • @Sorain1
      @Sorain1 Год назад +139

      It shows the rot, and means any publishing house that starts up and keeps such types out is going to do well long term. (Provided they do at least middling level business work.)

    • @_Code_3
      @_Code_3 Год назад +268

      Based, don’t sell your soul to these degenerates

    • @RespectTheSourceMaterial
      @RespectTheSourceMaterial Год назад +151

      In today's age it's easier than ever to self publish your work through amazon. I'd recommend taking the time to research how to do it in a smart way.
      Also In the Penguin Random House/S&S antitrust trial it was revealed that out of 58,000 trade titles published per year, half of those titles sell fewer than one dozen books. LESS THAN ONE DOZEN.
      Stop being depressed about this, half of these publishers will go under in the next 5 years, you don't want to be a part of that sinking ship.

  • @midnightflare9879
    @midnightflare9879 Год назад +362

    In a modern movie, when everyone starts yelling, you know this's are getting serious...
    In a classic movie, when everyone goes silent, you know the freaking sky's gonna fall down!

    • @georgebailey8179
      @georgebailey8179 Год назад +13

      @Jack Smith Why are you spamming that comment in multiple places? And can you please give a single example of something the Drinker hated that was actually worth watching?

    • @georgebailey8179
      @georgebailey8179 Год назад +13

      @Jack Smith Look up the definition of spamming. And from your inability to name one thing the Drinker hated that was worth watching, I take it that you can't name any. I'm beginning to doubt that you've ever watched a Drinker video, rather than just spamming obvious nonsense in the chat.

    • @joggerman8455
      @joggerman8455 Год назад +1

      @@georgebailey8179 Not agreeing with that loser at all but I'm pretty sure drinker didn't like new Tomb Raider movie but I thought it was fun and enjoyable. That's the only instance that I've disagreed with him.

    • @treysabre2943
      @treysabre2943 Год назад +9

      @Jack Smith Why are you arguing like a child? The adults are talking.

    • @JPG.01
      @JPG.01 Год назад +2

      @@joggerman8455 Something can be bad, yet enjoyable. You subjective enjoyment has absolutely nothing to do with the objective quality of something. Nobody will agree if I were to boldly proclaim the lie that the Star Wars Prequels are good movies. But I enjoy the hell out of them. I like all of them. I prefer the originals but never disliked the prequels.

  • @enfieldjohn101
    @enfieldjohn101 8 месяцев назад +24

    This is so true! It's getting to the point that I don't want to watch new shows anymore. I can't stand what filmmakers are doing to male characters and favorite series now.

  • @moltenbullet
    @moltenbullet 11 месяцев назад +16

    I remember pausing at a team meeting at work, for about 2 seconds, letting the silence linger after another team member had spoken, to let myself think befoee responding, and i got called out by a woman for "power playing". I was the only man in my entire department, so perhaps that was the issue.

    • @davidward2651
      @davidward2651 10 месяцев назад +4

      Yikes

    • @djphoenix1366
      @djphoenix1366 7 месяцев назад +7

      The crime you commit was taking a moment to think? XD

    • @Nickpetronio
      @Nickpetronio 4 месяца назад +4

      @@djphoenix1366but I thought us men wouldn’t do stuff like think! (Insert sarcasm)

  • @alexhussinger3550
    @alexhussinger3550 Год назад +1084

    Top Gun: Maverick being the highest gross of 2022 is really quite telling with regards to this. Its one of the few "Decades later remakes" where it feels like the writers actually liked the original movie and character and wanted to explore that more, as opposed to wanting to tear them down and destroy them for the audacity of being more popular than modern crap.

    • @nataliamundell6266
      @nataliamundell6266 Год назад +26

      I'm not really into top gun but I agree with your assessment

    • @ogredev
      @ogredev Год назад +83

      I think Tom Cruise only accepts roles where the same plot structure is:
      1. Toms character is damn good at whatever he is, maybe the best.
      2. But his ego gets him in trouble and he is almost destroyed.
      3. A woman talks some sense into him and builds him back up.
      4. Tom returns and wins.
      Sure there are a few exceptions but this really does explain most of his movies.

    • @mantabond
      @mantabond Год назад +18

      Perhaps this was helped by the fact that Tom Cruise had quite a lot more control and love for the character. Unlike, I dunno, a certain Daniel Craig.

    • @gooble69
      @gooble69 Год назад +25

      I never really like Tom Cruise much, but it's clear from the Top Gun remake that he is aware of what is going on and was determined to resist it. And for that I give him a lot of credit. Many many other A-listers weren't so smart.

    • @magtinfal7908
      @magtinfal7908 Год назад +2

      Avatar 2 surpassed it

  • @johnhodgdon2434
    @johnhodgdon2434 Год назад +473

    I have seldom seen a man look more depressed than Mark Hammill sitting next to Ryan Johnson in that press conference.

    • @CrazyMazapan
      @CrazyMazapan Год назад +52

      And how obvious it was that Hamill is one of those strong men from the past, sitting next to a woke worm

    • @dragonforks93
      @dragonforks93 Год назад +42

      He knew that he was trapped in a faustian bargain with Disney

    • @ImperativeGames
      @ImperativeGames Год назад +4

      @@dragonforks93 The story about modern Disney belongs to old Disney movies ^^
      With it being the evil corporation, the main antagonist of course.

    • @veramae4098
      @veramae4098 Год назад

      President Zelensky slumped in a chair next to President Trump,
      I think hit "max" on the depression scale.
      Congress had approved the money but Trump refused to disburse it unless Ukraine helped him frame Hunter Biden. And Zelensky refused.

    • @silencedmaxim5889
      @silencedmaxim5889 Год назад +4

      The heavy breathing says it all

  • @markmorrise
    @markmorrise 10 месяцев назад +10

    One of the reasons that I really like Disney’s Andor series is the positive way that it portrays both the male and female characters.

  • @richardphelps2091
    @richardphelps2091 Год назад +7

    As with all your videos, this is awesome! It's been 3 months and I'm waiting expectantly for Part 2.

  • @WidebodyLotty
    @WidebodyLotty Год назад +737

    Speaking of Emily Blunt, I believe her husband was an excellent male character in the first A Quiet Place movie. He was a capable patriarch. He led his family. A great father. Intelligent. Resourceful. Brave. And he ultimately sacrificed himself to save his family. A sort of throwback male character.

    • @pawsomelabrastead9244
      @pawsomelabrastead9244 Год назад +5

      Unfamiliar with whatever is being referred to about her, hopefully if its bad that Cruise can reel her in for the Edge of Tomorrow sequel they've been working on.

    • @Kylesb
      @Kylesb Год назад +36

      @@pawsomelabrastead9244 I don’t know if it’s Cruise & Blunt’s interaction or some more recent news regarding Blunt, but on the first point- Blunt noted in some form of an interview that Edge of Tomorrow was physically (and probably mentally) exhausting, and the war suit was heavy. In short, she hit a low point on set, said something a bit negative, and Cruise jumped in and basically told her to man up; it caught her off-guard, but she by no means was offended by his comment.

    • @durinV
      @durinV Год назад +13

      He wasn't, he ignored the little one after he almost got the family killed, both parents allow him to walk at the end when he should have being in the middle of the group, got killed because he didn't have enough tools to distract the monsters

    • @pawsomelabrastead9244
      @pawsomelabrastead9244 Год назад +5

      @@Kylesb Oh yeah, I did read about that. Poor thing making millions to feel equality occasionally.

    • @tathagatchaturvedi5447
      @tathagatchaturvedi5447 Год назад +3

      Being a patriarch is not something one should aspire to be

  • @Dubz759
    @Dubz759 Год назад +815

    Thank god there’s someone with an audience that is calling this out.

    • @scottbilger9294
      @scottbilger9294 Год назад +18

      Too little, too late.

    • @stevem2323
      @stevem2323 Год назад +9

      @@scottbilger9294 Yep, considering who is pushing this and how.

    • @self-proclaimedanimator
      @self-proclaimedanimator 11 месяцев назад +9

      We need more shows like
      JoJo's or Games like Tf2
      We need more
      Hot Buff Oily Men
      Not cringe Woman

    • @spider-man9118
      @spider-man9118 10 месяцев назад +3

      reject lust, embrace God
      Also, we have evidence for biblical events, if anyone is interested

    • @ChaNnArD-mD
      @ChaNnArD-mD 9 месяцев назад +1

      I heard the next 007 is going to be a drag queen

  • @MrMurphyX
    @MrMurphyX 10 месяцев назад +21

    One of the many examples where they demonstrate hatred towards men and masculinity is in the series The Boys, particularly in the third season.

    • @sankalpsuryavanshi4788
      @sankalpsuryavanshi4788 10 месяцев назад

      Suddenly all women are good and men are evil

    • @2012sonora
      @2012sonora 6 месяцев назад +2

      I do not get the love that The Boys got. It is a breathtakingly hateful show.

    • @einundsiebenziger5488
      @einundsiebenziger5488 6 месяцев назад

      @@2012sonora The only thing hateful about the Boys is the ancient cliché that the evil did not start with American corporations, but with WW2 nazis.

    • @fromthecheapseats7126
      @fromthecheapseats7126 4 месяца назад +1

      I don’t get why Critical Drinker likes “The Boys.”

    • @GigaChadh976
      @GigaChadh976 4 месяца назад

      @@fromthecheapseats7126he appreciated how fresh season 1 felt.

  • @meganfoster8838
    @meganfoster8838 Год назад +96

    Meanwhile, over in the romance section of the bookshop/library, you'll find plenty of strong, brave and clever manly heroes, i.e., what female audiences actually want. We also don't mind having the hero coming in to rescue the heroine (as long as she's doing more than stand there like a helpless ninny doing nothing). Filmmakers, take note...

    • @DarkMiss
      @DarkMiss 10 месяцев назад +1

      i think its bs,tired tropes that need to be put to rest. thank god the "im useless i need saving" bs is dying off! YUCK

    • @AceDramaBeats
      @AceDramaBeats 10 месяцев назад +11

      I don't mind her being helpless. Let a man save her every now and then.

    • @seanhealey5931
      @seanhealey5931 8 месяцев назад +3

      The romance section for females is basically porn in written form...cliterature.

    • @realdragon
      @realdragon 8 месяцев назад +6

      I've seen some romances, in a lot of cases man is far stronger than woman in those (I've seen one when they're equally strong) but when men rescue women from physical danger in exchange women emotionally support men. And this is great because it shows they both have flaws in some aspects they struggle, but when they're together they support each other

    • @zynpkrdg
      @zynpkrdg 5 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly! Men in those romances are super rich, powerful, strong, and stoic too most times! They brood all the time.😂 They command authority and fear from others, especially in fantasy romances. They do treat the heroine softly but that's bc the heroine was able to break down his walls and support him emotionally bc he is very traumatized and all that. And they also save the heroines too! One of the favorite things ever for romance fantasy readers is a scene where the heroine is kinda beaten up and the guy goes "who did this to you?" and basically crushes those guilty like lil ants. They also like seeing her handle her own and have agency but that is like, the basics of writing a good character, male or female, at least the character has to grow into having those attributes. Anyway that's clearly what women like since the majority of them seem to fantasize about these characters and i have never seen one woman do the same for a silly guy like the modern hollywood likes to put on screen. Never. As a female, i don't really like romance but i love epic fantasy and almost all of my favorite characters are male. I love the female characters in those too, because they actually are good people who are trying to do good things most times, not self-absorbed men-hating weird stuck up creatures.

  • @lucasliaskos
    @lucasliaskos Год назад +464

    Hence the reason Top Gun: Maverick had such a massive success. It had an old school written male character.

    • @brianmurphy250
      @brianmurphy250 Год назад +27

      And the success of Yellowstone on tv.

    • @spagsunfiltered
      @spagsunfiltered Год назад +11

      @Brian Murphy fuck yes! Rip is one of the only real men on TV. Fantastic character!

    • @princessmarlena1359
      @princessmarlena1359 Год назад +1

      Agreed

    • @shiny_duck
      @shiny_duck Год назад

      A depiction of man that isn't the ones depicted by college freshman feminist pigs

    • @ryanchristophergavan80
      @ryanchristophergavan80 Год назад +25

      What was well done in that film was the addition of diversity with subtlety. Female and BAME pilots were in the story but they were just all great aviators. Show, don’t tell.

  • @callanhutchison1871
    @callanhutchison1871 Год назад +322

    The Drinker’s grave stone is just gunna say “Go away now!”

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Год назад +6

      He’ll go out like a legend! 😎

    • @alphacat9302
      @alphacat9302 Год назад +9

      Right after date of death: 'went away then'

    • @bdb1052
      @bdb1052 Год назад +12

      lol nice, either that or "nah it'll be fine"

    • @Slyarno2795
      @Slyarno2795 Год назад

      When he does ill stick around.

    • @johngavin3180
      @johngavin3180 Год назад +4

      @@bdb1052 I was thinking that might be an alternative too.

  • @maenad1231
    @maenad1231 23 дня назад +3

    As a woman I don’t think a lot of chronically online women are being genuine when they pretend heroic empowered male leads aren’t a thrill to watch
    Yeah it’s good to get some badass women - every girl I know liked Kim Possible and Tomb Raider and Hermione as a kid but making the men suck doesn’t make me happy at all

  • @skybesky
    @skybesky 10 месяцев назад +7

    Hi Man, I'm glad I found your channel. For years, I know that something is very wrong with cinematography, but it was difficult to name it. After watching your video, all make so much sense. I wish you could be the man that all movie producers need to ask for permission to release anything.
    Thanks

  • @Mitra131
    @Mitra131 Год назад +401

    It's funny how we went from not knowing how to write women to not knowing how to write people

    • @elinfini
      @elinfini Год назад +74

      And then, the logical conclusion: not knowing how to write, period.

    • @nutbastard
      @nutbastard Год назад +46

      "How do you write women so well?"
      "I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability."

    • @murrothbro195
      @murrothbro195 Год назад +29

      They wrote women pretty well up until pretty recently though...

    • @Tethloach1
      @Tethloach1 Год назад +7

      how writing evolved, natural progression
      Gods
      Myths
      Heros
      Men
      Women
      Children?
      Pets?
      Plants?
      Robots?

    • @andrewnix6480
      @andrewnix6480 Год назад +7

      @@nutbastardWtf is that supposed to mean

  • @particularbored6072
    @particularbored6072 Год назад +1424

    I've used the "commercial idiotic male" trope for about well over a decade now as one example of accepted sexism. Usually met with sighs and eye rolls. It was deeply satisfying to hear it pointed out here.

    • @CyberLance26
      @CyberLance26 11 месяцев назад +68

      From my experience most people dont notice changes in the media and society and how people view and think about things at all and thinks you are just weird and crazy if you mention that kind of stuff to them.
      Most people also seems to be completely blind to double standards.
      Most people seriously only seems to be able to notice and see things if the mainstream media talk about it a lot.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 11 месяцев назад +57

      Then these same clowns act surprised when male figures like Andrew Tate spring up outta nowhere lmfao.

    • @nitroxylictv
      @nitroxylictv 10 месяцев назад +20

      @@CyberLance26 because most people have an average IQ of 60 to 70, an average grade intelegence of 4th grade, and generally dont think for themselves most of the time

    • @linsqopiring6816
      @linsqopiring6816 10 месяцев назад +10

      Accept and be ready for what I call the "poor baby" response. It will always always happen. Don't fear it, embrace it. You see it gives you license to not give an f about women crying about, whatever women cry about. And let them know it with a big smile on your face. Enthusiastically thank them for their "poor baby".

    • @thatguy22441
      @thatguy22441 10 месяцев назад +13

      I've been noticing that since the 90s. Anyone who said anything but praise for misandrist content was branded a "sexist" and ruined. This was before the internet. Few men noticed it, fewer cared and very few were willing to say anything. It was a lonely time to be a red pill dude. Times are better now, far from perfect, but far better. At least now misandry can be pointed out without nearly as much fear of reprisal.

  • @jennyk9748
    @jennyk9748 8 месяцев назад +4

    You always articulate these very nuanced and complicated issues so well.

  • @fishgod7535
    @fishgod7535 Год назад +42

    This is why the John Wick movies are great. The characters are great and serve their purpose. They are not treated as dumbed-down characters or followers of diversity, they are just characters. Sure some characters may seem to be immortal like John or King, but they don't follow to anyone and instead they help each other in difficult situations to help them overcome adversity.

    • @AceDramaBeats
      @AceDramaBeats 10 месяцев назад +2

      The first 2 were amazing! Especially the first one. The second two were okay.. the third was a bit modern. The fourth, could've used more dialogue and the ending could've been better.

    • @nitroxylictv
      @nitroxylictv 10 месяцев назад

      Hes a strong man who keeps fighting against evil even after he lost his true love, his pet dog and his favorite car. He puts everything in the past and moves forward, like a man is supposed to.

    • @davidanderson2357
      @davidanderson2357 9 месяцев назад +1

      Well... Wick DOES leave behind a rather diverse assortment of corpses.

    • @einundsiebenziger5488
      @einundsiebenziger5488 6 месяцев назад +1

      ... and most of the "characters" just wait in line to be shot by JW or to have their guns taken away by him and then be shot.

  • @RM_VFX
    @RM_VFX Год назад +519

    Aragorn is a fairly modern example of a good male character. He's not a toxic, aggressive stereotype, or a dolt. He's a competent warrior who cares about his comrades, and his lady. You can tell he's introspective, and that living up to his legacy carries emotional weight, but he never whines about it. He, like Frodo, bucks up and carries that burden because that's what OG guys do.

    • @mikoaj1349
      @mikoaj1349 Год назад +71

      Actually even in the LOTR movies there were some small but significant differences from the source material. For example, in the movies Aragorn whines: 'I'm Isildur's heir, the same weak blood runs in me' and then Arwen comforts him: 'You're Aragorn, not Isildur himself'. In the books, on the other hand, it's Boromir who accuses Aragorn of being Isildur's heir and having his weaknesses, while Aragorn defends himself saying that he's his own man.

    • @NuanceOverDogma
      @NuanceOverDogma Год назад +58

      Modern example? That was 20 years ago. He’s talking about the last decade especially last 5 years have been atrocious portrayals of men… and women.

    • @lastmanstanding5423
      @lastmanstanding5423 Год назад +27

      @@mikoaj1349 eh?
      Book Isildur is a hero, who died heroically.
      It was the movies that made him into: "hearts of men are easily corrupted"
      Book Aragorn would be proud to be called heir of Isildur.

    • @Benji-jj2bg
      @Benji-jj2bg Год назад +16

      @@mikoaj1349 thats a bit different, that scene was put there to convey that Arwen was his closest confidant and he was able to talk to her, showing how he is when hes around someone he can open up with kinda i guess. It made him feel more human, we all have doubts. But most men dont share those doubts with the whole world and complain,.

    • @Fred-gu6pk
      @Fred-gu6pk Год назад +7

      John McClane although the good Die Hard films are even older. And what about Hans Gruber charming, nicely spoken, cunning, quick witted and ruthless

  • @brodel20
    @brodel20 Год назад +227

    The arch of the modern strong female character:
    Act I: SFC is unique and badass but no one knows it.
    Act II: SFC demonstrates how unique and badass she is, without any additional training, failure, or guidance. The conflict is people testing or disregarding her unique badassery.
    Act III: Everyone learns how uniquely badass SFC is!

    • @adamalchemy2790
      @adamalchemy2790 Год назад +6

      😆😂🤣

    • @Orozco_PNW
      @Orozco_PNW Год назад +10

      ‘Reyyyy!’

    • @Troublechutor
      @Troublechutor Год назад

      Writers who can't connect with the concept of working hard to become good/skilled/respected because everything was given to them based on their intersectionality scores are naturally going to struggle with women having to learn anything. Unless the women are written to be feminine, then they get to learn about feminism.

    • @_BirdOfGoodOmen
      @_BirdOfGoodOmen Год назад +2

      *Arc

    • @xarityfan4370
      @xarityfan4370 Год назад

      @R. P. it's weird how even feminists think femininity is weakness

  • @plainchemicals
    @plainchemicals 2 месяца назад +3

    Man you nailed it here. Have been seeing this happening for years. Anytime I try to watch a modern movie nowadays I'm left feeling flat and there's always some kind of social agenda they're forcing. Started watching a creature film the other day where a female tracker lead a group of male explorers to a dangerous location. I called it in the first 5 mins. She's going to be the only one to survive - and it was true. So predictable now. 20 years ago, one of these men would have protected her when danger struck - but not today. Can't have a man protecting a woman or that would affect the feminist agenda.

  • @JeremiahLauzon
    @JeremiahLauzon 10 месяцев назад +52

    I actually wrote an essay in university about how in modern family shows the father is shown as an idiot. I firget the exact argument I was making, but it's certainly noticeable how every father seems to be this bumbling idiot that can't do anything right without their wife.

    • @QuadriviumNumbers
      @QuadriviumNumbers 5 месяцев назад +2

      It's that word that has been noticeable in it's absence...FEMINISM!

    • @doorman5966
      @doorman5966 5 месяцев назад +1

      Leave it to Beaver was also stereotypical. Ward was always the smart one while June was always running to him for advice. Totally unrealistic portrayal of real life. But in those days they wanted to present masculinity as a kind of jokey patriarchy--Ward was a pencil pusher, not a working class father. Wokeness didn't start yesterday. It has been in Hollywood since the 1920s, but in different ways because the society was 99% European so they couldn't push diversity or LGBT.

    • @Nickpetronio
      @Nickpetronio 4 месяца назад

      Wow kudos to you. Sounds great. How was that essay received though? Lol

    • @JeremiahLauzon
      @JeremiahLauzon 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Nickpetronio Pretty well actually, I don't remember my actual grade but it was decently good I think.

    • @bobbamford5207
      @bobbamford5207 Месяц назад

      Yes the Wife has the solution to lifes problems.

  • @adamdrouin2295
    @adamdrouin2295 Год назад +442

    It's hard to write in good male characters when modern society considers them "toxic"

    • @Ghost_Text
      @Ghost_Text Год назад +27

      We're on the cusp of a civilization where machinery proposes to erase concepts of merit and living on ones own terms for a dependent society.
      Men (though not exclusively) symbolize independence and earned merit. So to make a population docile, those icons would have to be taken out.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Год назад +4

      @@Ghost_Text That’s terrifying, tbh. It’s the equivalent of erasing the historical past and rewriting it in order make it better than it actually was.

    • @markro1049
      @markro1049 Год назад

      @@Ghost_Text Yes, this is the objetive of all this circus. Young, strong, stoic and ambitious males present the biggest danger to the ruling class. Making them weak and submissive is a way to keep power.

    • @pyropulseIXXI
      @pyropulseIXXI Год назад +18

      It isn't hard to write them at all. Modern society does not consider them toxic at all. An extremely small subset consider that, and these people are in Hollywood and academia pushing their fringe beliefs as if they were fact.

    • @pyropulseIXXI
      @pyropulseIXXI Год назад +3

      @@chasehedges6775 Dude, the establishment rewrites the historical past to make it seem worse than it really was. You got it totally backwards

  • @manfrombritain6816
    @manfrombritain6816 Год назад +618

    Picard was one of the saddest. It felt like an utterly different person. From one of the absolute best and most aspirational characters to a doddering old simp

    • @xposetruth5681
      @xposetruth5681 Год назад +33

      Same here. It hurts my soul as that is my favorite show of all time. I refuse to watch that dumpster fire called Picard. It’s not canon.

    • @jigawatt1.215
      @jigawatt1.215 Год назад +31

      @@xposetruth5681 If Patrick Stewart was tired and bored of playing Picard, he shouldn't have come back to the character. He butchered it because he wanted to do something different without thinking about his responsibility to the legacy of the character. The character just isn't his, several writers made the character what it was.

    • @andrewblanchard2398
      @andrewblanchard2398 Год назад

      PATRICK STEWART
      MADE BAD INVESTMENTS
      AND LOST A TON OF MONEY
      HE WAS FACING
      BANKRUPTCY AT
      80 YEARS OLD
      UNLIKE TRUMP
      HE COULDN'T GET
      RUSSIA
      ISRAEL
      CHINA
      NORTH KOREA
      SAUDI ARABIA
      DEUTSCHE BANK
      TO GIVE HIM
      BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

    • @michaelschmidt1101
      @michaelschmidt1101 Год назад +3

      Sad but true

    • @chrisbutlerart
      @chrisbutlerart Год назад +28

      Picard was an absolute betrayal of everything the character ever was, and everything he ever stood for. Trek is stone cold dead.

  • @RicardoSenzo
    @RicardoSenzo 10 месяцев назад +2

    Just came across your channel. Very impressive. Your drunken rants are both somehow strikingly coherent and insightful, despite the relentlessly torrential semantic verbosity with which they're articulated. New sub. I have a lot to catch up on.

  • @JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw
    @JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw 11 месяцев назад +8

    Han, Luke, and Boba being neutered in absolutely every way, shape and form in their character assassinations will forever break my heart as a Star Wars fan. Same with James Bond and Indi 😔 my favorite heroes and villains reduced to less than nothing

    • @user-ey9ww3wb8s
      @user-ey9ww3wb8s 6 месяцев назад

      The fans ruined those characters the most by not letting those characters go and watch something new. You can't expect old actors to play their younger selves and do action scenes. Like come on now. The fans need to move on to new characters. This is why Star Wars is stuck. I would rather watch Old Republic in the Star Wars universe.

    • @JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw
      @JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw 6 месяцев назад

      @@user-ey9ww3wb8s not the fans, the studios keep milking every single character and ip

  • @bankait_rex1860
    @bankait_rex1860 Год назад +538

    I swear to you, that line from demolition man, were Sylvester Stallone said "put me back in the fridge" is becoming a reality every single day that passes by.

    • @waycooljr.181
      @waycooljr.181 Год назад +9

      Thank you, I forgot about that line, it says everything in a short sentence.

    • @juniorm641
      @juniorm641 Год назад +1

      What's wrong with Creed? Too black?

    • @thatitalianlameguy2235
      @thatitalianlameguy2235 Год назад +7

      @@juniorm641 tbh it's the only one I disagreed with because Rocky dying makes sense, he lost everybody and feels fulfilled so going out like that is fine to him

    • @twobellz
      @twobellz Год назад +12

      “Demolition Man”? Another awesome movie that was way ahead of its time.👍

    • @Derek-qu8qi
      @Derek-qu8qi Год назад +4

      I say EVERY day that I wish that damn asteroid would hurry up and get here

  • @wasabi5338
    @wasabi5338 Год назад +786

    Rocky Balboa in my opinion is one of the best written masculine figure. He can express his fears and insecurities to his wife, he cried when Mick died, and he is capable of being goofy. But when challenges arrives, he never backs down. The Creed Rocky where he didnt want to live anymore is foreshadowed in Rocky V where Mick told him that little by little, an old man's motivation to stay alive disappears.
    "I never asked you to stop being a woman, so please don't ask me to stop being a man."

    • @nitroxylictv
      @nitroxylictv 10 месяцев назад +60

      Exactly. Hes a real man that asks for support, from his COMPASSIONATE and CARING WIFE. That is a true man. Women are SUPPOSED to be caring, emotionally supportive, compassionate and emotionally reconstructive. Its the Yin and Yang to mens protectively supportive, reassuring, providing and guiding traits.

    • @thelegacyofgaming2928
      @thelegacyofgaming2928 10 месяцев назад +32

      Yes! Having a feminine wife to support him is EXACTLY how you write a good woman character. Rocky was awesome

    • @wasabi5338
      @wasabi5338 10 месяцев назад +45

      @@thelegacyofgaming2928 Adrian is a well written strong female character too. She is able to break free of her insecurities and in turn be the perfect voice of reason when Rocky lost his way.
      Nowadays, a feminist's idea of a strong woman is someone who can KO men and is masculine, while Adrian is feminine yet very mentally strong.

    • @TheresaMayPM
      @TheresaMayPM 9 месяцев назад +15

      @@wasabi5338 Adrian is great. Rocky was willing to give it up for her, which was a massive sacrifice for a man who was on the verge of escaping a life of mediocrity. Adrian knew Rocky risked dying, that she could lose him, but she risked that loss because she knew he would be diminished if he didn't fight. Rocky is a series about two heroes, Rocky and Adrian.

    • @buukute
      @buukute 8 месяцев назад +5

      Never get tired of "Rocky" series even I have watched them for hundreds times. The story, characters and musica was on point!

  • @tiendaweii
    @tiendaweii 10 месяцев назад +6

    Rick Grimes is about as solid a portrayal of an everyman thrust into the tumults of the unthinkable as I've seen in a long time. The TV series did wane a bit, mayhaps, but the character was written and marvelously demonstrated as a respectable, admirable man should be.

  • @Thesupperals
    @Thesupperals 10 месяцев назад +10

    This kind of thing makes me want to write a story about characters (one male, one female) with no extreme personality- but are based around a modern person planted in reality, are subjected to past cinema and modern cinema plaguing their every day lives. With our main characters trying to go through a typical day, doing it's best at trying to mock the "slice of life" genre with an actual plot. Absurdities always come their way impacting these "blank slate" main characters into something that they're not- all the while trying to obtain a relationship with one another and put a stop to all of the garbage that they're being subjected to.

  • @thebad2016
    @thebad2016 Год назад +216

    This could also be the reason that John Wick has been successful. Where most men are emotional, John is portrayed as very stoic. He can control a situation with his silence and when he does speak, you usually feel the impact of it. For example, when Vigo has him all tied up in the first movie. When he speaks up, you can hear the raw emotion conveyed in Keanu's voice. John just wanted to be left alone to grieve but it was snatched away from him in the form of Josef killing his dog and stealing his car.

    • @nathancawley8759
      @nathancawley8759 Год назад +5

      @@whatsappme9933 tfw you steal a film critics profile pic to try to scam ppl. ugh

    • @davidarriola6412
      @davidarriola6412 Год назад

      It was mostly killing his dog. You don't kill dogs unless your ready for war.

    • @thebad2016
      @thebad2016 Год назад +4

      @@nathancawley8759 Yeah, they literally comment on everything I say. Makes me feel like they're targetting me specifically. They've also impersonated other youtubers and commented on my stuff from other videos.

    • @sup9542
      @sup9542 Год назад +3

      Those movies are getting worse and worse though. Keanu is the type of guy to happily have his character be neutered so women and trans women can take over. He’s very down with that trend.

    • @stemup
      @stemup Год назад +1

      @sup9542 what women are you referring to? Sure there are badass female characters but I'd hardly say they "took over"

  • @leedobson
    @leedobson Год назад +304

    There's more manliness in two minutes of any Eastwood film of the 60's/70's than the entirety of anything made in the last ten years

    • @specialk9424
      @specialk9424 Год назад

      You could've left off "of the 60's/70's". Cause Clint ain't no bitch. He's 90 years old, and can still kick your ass, my ass, and the asses of our best friends.

    • @hubertbevillard2576
      @hubertbevillard2576 Год назад +7

      John Wick disagrees

    • @falconmclenny7284
      @falconmclenny7284 Год назад +5

      "Get three coffins ready"

    • @mikeseier4449
      @mikeseier4449 Год назад +2

      @@hubertbevillard2576 john wick is a girl with a lot of ammo!..

    • @beingsshepherd
      @beingsshepherd Год назад +4

      And racism frankly.

  • @djsturm685
    @djsturm685 10 месяцев назад +1

    Perfect analysis !! Congratulations for the good work, continue !!!

  • @intruder313
    @intruder313 Год назад +7

    Nothing is more sexist than the term 'Mansplaining' - which is used any time a man explains something to a woman - but of course not when he'd talking to another man or when a woman does the exact same.

    • @esymoo
      @esymoo Год назад

      men whining about "sexism" will never not be funny

    • @GigaChadh976
      @GigaChadh976 4 месяца назад

      @@lithosagymfansaid the man whose never watched a film from the 40’s or 50’s

  • @natiart
    @natiart Год назад +786

    Silence in dialogue is powerful because it feels REAL
    The writers probably never saw a real conversation between people

    • @mr.wilson9941
      @mr.wilson9941 Год назад +1

      Those writers are energy drink spoiled autistic soy boys who believe steven universe is the peak of what entertainment looks like so obviously they never talked to another human being with an once of sanity

    • @thegoodwolf4255
      @thegoodwolf4255 Год назад +12

      confrontation is being made more and more not socially acceptable, you're actually probably right

    • @rro660
      @rro660 Год назад

      ​@@thegoodwolf4255 of course you make men less confrontational and less dominant they pose less of a threat to the elite group of men that control the world. 😉

    • @PeterParker-ff7ub
      @PeterParker-ff7ub Год назад +7

      at the same time a little is enough and no one wants their time wasted on endless quiet.

    • @Whaddayamean13
      @Whaddayamean13 Год назад +18

      We have a hyperactive, can't sit still for five minutes audience of children now addicted to TikTok and mindless dopamine bullshit. Combine that with an industry that has become all about making money and less about storytellers: you have these movies now. They're not only bad on their own, they're tarnishing their original versions-which they shamelessly remake to begin with.

  • @greenarrow219
    @greenarrow219 Год назад +378

    I remember a James Bond movie where M describes Bond as a dinosaur of a different Era, yet in reality he is exactly what is needed to fix the current crisis. We need that in modern entertainment.

    • @trackerjacker5467
      @trackerjacker5467 Год назад +18

      Of course, his recent change in character IS pretty understandable; I mean, you live a life like his, you see and go through the shit he has, after a while it takes a toll.

    • @spacemann1425
      @spacemann1425 Год назад +13

      That scene was in 1995. The point of that scene wasn't to put down James Bond.

    • @greenarrow219
      @greenarrow219 Год назад +5

      @@spacemann1425 1995, better times.

    • @TheMaulam12345
      @TheMaulam12345 Год назад +24

      no worry honey. next bond will question about his sexuality and his skill color while fighting climax change

    • @greenarrow219
      @greenarrow219 Год назад +1

      @@TheMaulam12345 can't wait😄

  • @aminkazemi4579
    @aminkazemi4579 8 месяцев назад +2

    Seriously I've noticed for a long time and you are the only one who mentioned it and I'm grateful to you about it, I'm so sick of men bring depicted as clumsy, insecure, talentless and submissive to make the movie funny and yet live in a world watching men sufferings and yet prospering in this new wrong social injustice against them, seriously you guys should be careful watching any movie after 2010 and not get disgusted by these bs, i don't know what Hollywood men think that they accept writing and depicting these big lies and when they want to ride against this shit

  • @chaostar.x
    @chaostar.x 10 месяцев назад +24

    People need to understand that there is such a thing as healthy yet kickass masculinity and that women have shared that successfully before (Katniss Everdeen for instance) but what everyone forgets is why they all worked: they were first and foremost well written characters. One note stereotypes can be easy fun but NEVER make good compelling characters for people to root for. And good compelling characters don’y even need a convoluted backstory or one that is thrown in your face through exposition. Subtlety and simplicity work. James Bond, a common example on this channel, kicks ass because he is an experienced spy who has been trained extremely well. He doesn’t need superpowers or a tragic backstory for that.

  • @LeoJay
    @LeoJay Год назад +115

    Basically Hollywood has daddy issues, it's mind blowing to see guys like Kevin Feige self-guilting themselves and bending the knee like this.

    • @ryanrodriguez7664
      @ryanrodriguez7664 Год назад

      You're the second guy in this comment section I've seen named Leo.

    • @Johnzen03
      @Johnzen03 Год назад

      Hollywood had a China issue. This equity and inclusion movement is very obviously being pushed and funded by the CCP. Just look at every university in the western world. The amount of money the CCP dumps into them says it all.

  • @stephjokey8269
    @stephjokey8269 Год назад +166

    Hollywood vilifies men and wonders why the lose most of their audience

    • @markro1049
      @markro1049 Год назад +10

      @@fvefve12 They are losing money, disney is making less revenue than before, at least with MCU products when taking into account marketing expenses and inflation. This isn't even mentioning the CEO situation. There have been rumors about big corporations financing "the message", if you believe them to be true or not is up to each individual.

    • @markro1049
      @markro1049 Год назад

      @@fvefve12 Then we are fucked

    • @TrashPanda90914
      @TrashPanda90914 Год назад +5

      @@fvefve12 we found the shill boys 😂

    • @unwokeneuropean3590
      @unwokeneuropean3590 Год назад +2

      If you want the money for your movie, think about the main cinema payer in the audience: the white man. They forget it and cry later.

  • @michelleanderson5244
    @michelleanderson5244 8 месяцев назад +3

    13:19 My dad has been watching the old Columbo TV show from the 70s, and I gotta say I love the main character because he's just so... average, but in the best possible way. He's no underwear model. He fumbles with things in his pockets. He speaks courteously, even to the main suspects in murder cases. He doesn't have any kind of savant mental powers like most modern day detectives. But it's just so cathartic watching him slowly pick a case apart and expose the criminal.

  • @adamasylum1793
    @adamasylum1793 7 месяцев назад +2

    @thecriticaldrinker still waiting on Pt. 2 mate! I loved this!

  • @zzzaaayyynnn
    @zzzaaayyynnn Год назад +436

    I feel bad for boys and young men who have to grow up with these twisted potrayals of men in media.

    • @Crobian
      @Crobian Год назад

      The objective if you haven't noticed is to turn men into women and women into men because it is a hugely lucrative industry for $$$. They expect it to make more money than Hollywood (surgeries, hormone replacement therapy, therapy, legal costs, increased consumer spending etc). None of what you see is by accident, it is all for profit at the expense of people's mental health. And the other obvious reason for all this feminization of men is weaker men are easier to control. The less stoic heroes you have, the more you can exploit them.

    • @jonathancross2790
      @jonathancross2790 Год назад

      Thank you. My generation of boys are just brainwashed and dominated into believing women are always superior. Yet the girls brag about not getting enough recognition. Which makes sad and angry most of the time. Especially when I see boys acting feminine, emotional, whiney, irresponsible.

    • @leroyrodgers6089
      @leroyrodgers6089 Год назад +22

      As long as those boys have a good father, and grandfather. They will be fine. Jordan Peterson is also a really good man that is in the media as well. Of course they try to twist him, but he's to popular for them to bring down now.

    • @smorevids
      @smorevids Год назад +43

      And women too. Initially you might think we're lucky because we aren't demonised but it's not a great look to be portrayed as the annoying, cold mary sue gender. Now people will think that every movie with a female lead will automatically suck when it never had to be this way.

    • @houseofhas9355
      @houseofhas9355 Год назад +14

      Which is why at 19. I stopped watching any new modern movies that have anything to do with Disney superheros or female leads or female action star. I can't unsee the disrespect of male characters. Tv shows have it way worse than movies It's worse than you Think.
      I have seen young men say self hate thing like self owning or self downing. A lack of confidence is the agenda's real goal in my opinion.

  • @vickilove5795
    @vickilove5795 Год назад +1492

    As a female, much older than most who have posted here, I have to say, thank you Drinker for your concise and entertaining breakdown of why we all hate modern films and television. As I watch your exceptionally well edited video I am reminded of all the films I have loved so much, the male characters I have endearing emotional attachments to, and how it deeply saddens me by the literal crap I am force fed these days. Watching the demise of Luke Skywalker has been one of the worst cinematic experiences I have ever had. I was a young adult, barely an adult when Star Wars premiered. Same with Alien. Luke Skywalker and Ellen Ripley, true heroes among film science fiction/adventure stories. The turning upside down of expectations and the proliferation of "woke" cinema over the last 15/20 years has taken all the fun out of going to a movie theater. The anticipation of seeing my favorite hero act like a hero has been supplanted by the idea that I need to see a deconstruction of that hero to make me more socially aware of some sort of injustice has completely soured my desire to spend money on Hollywood films. Thanks for the video. I will recommend it on my next podcast.

    • @samhenninghaus7248
      @samhenninghaus7248 Год назад +36

      When i red the Rippley/Skywalker-part, i felt a cold shower running down my spine as i imagined the pure epicness, and adventure, and how those movies felt. Especially at that time 😍
      Must have been incredible to watch those for the first time, sitting in a big seat in the cinema, you still dont really know what to await and than the Star-Wars intromusic blasts your ears through your brainstem and the text rolls in.
      I really envy you for your age..
      Greetings from Germany, have a good one

    • @kennywilkinson913
      @kennywilkinson913 Год назад +4

      I'm a male, this comment has 69 likes

    • @juniorm641
      @juniorm641 Год назад +6

      Watch John Wick and take a chill pill lady. Jeez. Have you watched the Northman, Nobody, Top Gun maverick, Bad Liuetenant is so woke huh? Ridiculous

    • @metalmayhem3622
      @metalmayhem3622 Год назад

      @vickilove5795 Wasn't Luke always kind of bitchy, though? Also, the part of Ellen Ripley was written for a man.

    • @juniorm641
      @juniorm641 Год назад +2

      @@metalmayhem3622 luke was a whiney little brat in A New Hope and Mel Gibson cried in almost every 90s movie he was in. Alpacinos whole carer was built on losing his cool and I was there for it all. This channel has become an echo chamber of bullshit.

  • @edwardfletcher7790
    @edwardfletcher7790 11 месяцев назад +7

    Modern Men have been turned into comic relief....😩

    • @sugarandcyenide2084
      @sugarandcyenide2084 10 месяцев назад +1

      ya its great!

    • @VarunK-ii8eb
      @VarunK-ii8eb 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@sugarandcyenide2084Poor femcel.

    • @Johnathan737
      @Johnathan737 3 месяца назад

      ​@@sugarandcyenide2084WOKIE JOKIE Femitard 🐶🤡

  • @him050
    @him050 Год назад +205

    The hyper-emotional, quick to anger male character that never stopped talking used to be used as comic relief. Now it’s just the way they’re written.

    • @xGhost4000x
      @xGhost4000x Год назад +12

      Somewhat hilariously "hyper-emotional" and "quick to anger" is how I'd sum up most of the online discourse when it comes to movies in general.

    • @juniorm641
      @juniorm641 Год назад +8

      @@xGhost4000x thank you. These guys want to see real men while acting like real women looking for their perfect man. So ironic.

    • @ChampagneAndRipple
      @ChampagneAndRipple Год назад

      Isn't that who Critical Drinker is? Anyone who waste this much time on content like this isn't a real man at all. Neck beard rantings of unimportant fictional nerd shit as is that really matters in the real world. Getting all angry over movies, TV shows and videogames is as unmanly as it comes.

  • @hogwashsentinel
    @hogwashsentinel Год назад +245

    The most terrifying implication is that a male character can't be just as aspirational for female viewers.

    • @Michael-tk9ux
      @Michael-tk9ux Год назад +22

      Because it's true. Look up female in group bias and 'women are wonderful effect'

    • @DozenDeuce
      @DozenDeuce Год назад

      They’re NOT aspirational to women, they’re DESIRABLE to them.

    • @sort6726
      @sort6726 Год назад +7

      Because it's true to an extent, that also applies to both genders in general

    • @casecoded
      @casecoded Год назад +35

      honestly? as a woman, i have found no hero, no role model in those “strong female” characters. The men are the only place left to turn- and even the wussy emotional ones as Drinker described are better than the cold, hateful and arrogant females that’re so often portrayed in media these days.
      So rare to find media that lets people embody their natural talents and energy without challenging others or feeling threatened by their accomplishments and strengths. Wouldn’t it be cool to see? ahhh

    • @cheesefondont1579
      @cheesefondont1579 Год назад +12

      Indeed. It's a ridiculous assumption, as there's been a lot of interesting and aspirational characters in media for decades; male and female. I disagree with some of the comments saying women can't find male characters aspirational, as I have never had that issue; though I am someone who has been a tomboy all my life so in tune somewhat towards some more typically masculine values along with some core feminine ones.
      I am extremely tired of the 'defeated and downtrodden old man', 'bad father' and 'incompetent leader' tropes as much as the very unrealistic female heroes. I miss seeing characters with realistic and aspiration masculine and feminine strength respectively. Not understanding that men and women have different strengths is as much of a crime as not understanding that there are many people who don't fit the typical stereotype associates to gender.

  • @jakechimiak9416
    @jakechimiak9416 Год назад +13

    We need a part 2

  • @Unholyspirit
    @Unholyspirit 8 месяцев назад +3

    This is so perfect. Thank you for reminding me what a man is, and what a man is not.

  • @grunt6799
    @grunt6799 Год назад +123

    I recently rewatched "No country for old men" Looking back we were spoiled with how good films used to be.

    • @Mattblaze1477
      @Mattblaze1477 Год назад +6

      I recently watched Oliver Stones 'JFK'.........What a banger of a film that is. Joe Pesci as Dave Ferrie was so good its frightening......."A Triangular crossfire, That's the key, That's the key"

    • @fredmeyer1044
      @fredmeyer1044 Год назад +7

      Incredibly depressing to look back at the 2000's (which wasn't too long ago) where constant quality entertainment was just normal and expected, here we are in 2010's/2020's world and you get 2 good things a year and people forget about them in a week

    • @NineBreakerUIXB
      @NineBreakerUIXB Год назад +8

      Don't put it in your pocket! It's your lucky quarter

    • @davidc4996
      @davidc4996 Год назад +2

      @@NineBreakerUIXB which it is , just a quarter

    • @brightmamba889
      @brightmamba889 Год назад +4

      One of my top 10 personally probably a close favorite. So glad it wasn't poisoned with a netflix spinoff or sequel.

  • @emorsi
    @emorsi Год назад +868

    And the tragedy with Luke is that he was an inspiring character both to females and males. He was caring, thoughtful and put others above himself, he protected his "family", was there for his sister and his friends alike. In other words: He wasn't the typical dominant male who tries to control everything and push everyone in his direction. And then they made him a sad, depressed character who throws his lightsaber behind his back. Well, they COULD have made him a superwise Jedi who has risen above all earthly things and even rejecting his own power in order to achieve enlightment, like some spiritual masters of the real world do. That could have been believable but no, lets make him just weak and boring. And Mark Hamill said that in an interview too, that he did not like the way they portraited him in the new movies at all.

    • @lemonscentedgames3641
      @lemonscentedgames3641 Год назад +65

      Hahah AN interview? Theres probably like a 15-20 min complitation of hamill saying how much he dislikes disney starwars and his constant warnings to audiences to not get overhyped

    • @selfhelp69
      @selfhelp69 Год назад +17

      @@lemonscentedgames3641 Makes you wonder why he did them at all.

    • @jasonchui111
      @jasonchui111 Год назад +30

      Luke should had been like his master obi or yoda or anything in between, but no....... He became a very very sad old man. How is that possible other than pure man hating.

    • @killgorian131
      @killgorian131 Год назад +29

      Mark said that he had to play the character as NOT Luke Skywalker, because he couldn't reconcile the two characters in any way. What a surprise that the fans couldn't either.

    • @purefoldnz3070
      @purefoldnz3070 Год назад +6

      my favorite part is for someone that wants the jedi to "end" is just randomly hanging out on his island in his jedi master robes. Was he trolling the postman again?

  • @stever66
    @stever66 8 месяцев назад +2

    So, if Martians come to live among us in the future, becoming part of "the world we live in", it's OK to cast Martians in WWII movies? Really?

  • @Dunebat
    @Dunebat 5 месяцев назад +1

    I eagerly await Part 2!

  • @thisisthisis542
    @thisisthisis542 Год назад +113

    This is why I loved Reacher SOOO much. The dude was reserved, smart, and just overall a badass. But he still had emotions that were brought out and used for scenes that were all the more powerful because he wasn’t normally teary eyed or angry.

    • @LoganDX1990
      @LoganDX1990 Год назад +13

      That and Jack Ryan . It's like good writing, especially with make leads. Is becoming rare now

    • @TheAntsh
      @TheAntsh Год назад +11

      Words you'll never hear from real men 'I'm just going to be vulnerable here for a moment'

    • @saisameer8771
      @saisameer8771 Год назад +5

      Another example would be Ethan Hunt from the Mission Impossible movies. He generally does not come off as very stoic most of the time. But when things get serious he puts all his vulnerabilities aside and gets the job done.
      It also helps than Tom Cruise can pull off characters like Ethan Hunt better than any other actor.

    • @clamum9648
      @clamum9648 Год назад

      @@LoganDX1990 Yeah I think the Jack Ryan series is decent, better than a lot of crap on nowadays anyway. Reminds me I need to get back to the latest season, forgot I had started it lol.

    • @OldLizard
      @OldLizard Год назад +3

      To be honest, I found "Reacher" to be too Marty Sue. He is exceptionally strong, exceptionally smart, and exceptionally professional. Basically, he is a superman w/o kryptonite vulnerability.
      "Terminal list" was much better - there was character development, moral choices, and no "superpowers". Just a man who is doing his job and going to the very end if it is needed.

  • @chadpatton1326
    @chadpatton1326 Год назад +405

    Spot on, except for the Rocky part. I found the end to Rocky's journey uncomfortably real: Wife died of ovarian cancer. Brother in law was an alcoholic that died from drinking. Son was neglected by his famous boxer dad growing up and now they have a strained relationship. Rocky is left with the sum total of his decisions, and while still beloved by the community as a whole, has lost all of the people he truly loved in his life. At that point, I don't think turning down cancer treatment is that far fetched.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 Год назад +1

      That was Rocky 6 that did that. The son was also a cuck that looked like he should have been working in a hair saloons.

    • @akmonra
      @akmonra Год назад +68

      It also gives Rocky his own arc in the film, which I respect. The mentor character is normally just placed in stories to help the hero, without any conflicts of his own. I like that Rocky helps Creed fight, and Creed in return helps Rocky fight.

    • @manuelpatino7863
      @manuelpatino7863 Год назад +4

      I had forgotten all that Creed crap. Those films, and Rocky himself, went from trash to mediocre and forgettable so quickly, that it took me a peek to your comment to remind me what had happened in that garbage 🤣🤣🤣

    • @bjrnjohanhumblen1393
      @bjrnjohanhumblen1393 Год назад +2

      1 theory says if Rocky dealt with his pain properly the cancer will go away. The chemo kills. Healing emotionally cures cancer. The cancer is there to make you understand that or die, is the theory i watched yesterday on bitchute

    • @akmonra
      @akmonra Год назад

      @@bjrnjohanhumblen1393 the cancer is there because the dna in the cancer cells fail to tell it to stop duplicating. Healing emotionally doesn't get the cancer cells to suddenly change their code. They will still kill you.

  • @user-uu3mq1ot9g
    @user-uu3mq1ot9g 4 месяца назад +5

    This is absolutely amazing!!! I hope that everyone can hear this message and learn that men are supposed to be men and not women!

  • @corsicanupstart
    @corsicanupstart 9 месяцев назад +1

    I am absolutely loving the analysis of "Hollywoke's" breakdown that's happening across many RUclips channels. But it's even nicer to hear it all discussed with a fine burr. ;)

  • @khfan4life365
    @khfan4life365 Год назад +339

    I’m a girl and the title alone made me say “YES”. These “writers” cannot write men to save their lives. It’s sad to me because men and boys deserve their heroes too. They deserve to be taken seriously and not treated as a joke. 80s and 90s movies were perfect on portraying strong men and women. Writers back then were masters of their craft. Sadly, we have writers who care more about The Message rather than writing an interesting story.

    • @Rezzatoni
      @Rezzatoni Год назад +15

      I'm not so sure about this "80's knew strong men" trope; at least not if you take sitcoms into account. In Married ... with children, in ALF and even in The Cosby Show the male protagonists have been kinda jerks, while their wives, even PEggy Bundy, were superior to them and lovingly tolerating their foolishness. Maybe that's where it all started ...

    • @ThreadBareHope1234
      @ThreadBareHope1234 Год назад +9

      I was thinking about this yesterday. Strong men are hard to find in mainstream movies.
      A weird thing about nowdays is if I made a joke that "where hav all the good dads gon" bc they'r all jokes, idiots, or submissive, and someone will tell me cool dads are everywhere, using She Hulk as an example...😶
      Sorry, how are they not submissive or stupid man? Girls of my gen are doomed.🤦‍♀️ At least video game men can still be cool

    • @SpruceCampbell
      @SpruceCampbell Год назад +6

      I watch 80s and 90s movies about 50x more than anything from the past decade.

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral Год назад +7

      Heck Kevin Mccallister is a better role model from the 90's and he is only 8 in the first film

    • @SpruceCampbell
      @SpruceCampbell Год назад +3

      @@Rezzatoni you make a solid point that the 80s family sitcom marks a huge uptick in pathetic make leaders, however 80s movies are without a doubt home to some of the manliest lead characters ever. I mean, basically every actor that had a role in an Expendables movie had their heyday in the 80s.

  • @GrnXnham
    @GrnXnham Год назад +360

    A good explanation of why "Top Gun Maverick" was so successful. Audiences were STARVING for a strong male lead in a movie and made the movie a success.
    Yes, a little more balance here would be nice. Hollywood has become so completely predictable with these "modern rules of Hollywood" that nothing surprises anyone anymore.
    Here's a great idea of a plot twist in a modern movie.....Have a smart male character that we all like outsmart the evil female villain! Nobody would ever expect it!

    • @Dom21221
      @Dom21221 Год назад +5

      Amen 🙏. That’s what I’ve been saying since the movie out

    • @Pointman11111
      @Pointman11111 Год назад +8

      First of all it was a good movie
      I watched the predecessor just a few days before going to the theatre to see the new one and i didn't really care about the character
      Maybe bc there wasn't really a nostalgia factor for me
      Still it was a damn good movie and im glad it was such a huge success and i hope future movies take note
      But i did enjoy
      Amazons Reacher
      and The Terminal list
      And DCs Peacemaker bc of the main character/actor

    • @coomerslayer420
      @coomerslayer420 Год назад +22

      Don’t forget that Top Gun Maverick also has strong, interesting, well-written female characters too. I really loved that pretty mother and her daughter

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Год назад +3

      @@coomerslayer420 All the male and female characters were great

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Год назад +1

      Top Gun Maverick is a masterpiece of good filmmaking and storytelling.
      It truly was a good movie that me and my mom and dad enjoyed and we’ve seen the original as well

  • @Ahandle55
    @Ahandle55 Год назад +4

    This is so incredibly nit-picky and wrong. In recent years we've had movies like No Country for Old men, The Dark Knight, Django Unchained, Hacksaw Ridge, Inglorious Bastards, The Equalizer, The Revenant, John Wick, Gladiator, The Irishman, Fight Club and I can go on and on. Every single one of them films have the archetype you're looking for in them, I don't see how so many people just hear a guy say things in a convicing way and just think he's right.

    • @bugme143
      @bugme143 Год назад +1

      No Country was 2007, TDK was 2006, Hacksaw was a historical movie, Django was 2012, Gladiator and Fight Club were also older movies. John Wick was a breath of fresh air specifically because of the pussification of men in media and the other issues he mentions here, and while I liked The Equalizer (2014) and the character that Denzel played, I struggle to put it on the same level as John Wick or the OG Bourne Trilogy, let alone James Bond, not because of the actor (and ignoring the fact that it was a blackwash of a 1985 TV show), but because the movie was just... mediocre.

    • @Ahandle55
      @Ahandle55 Год назад +1

      @@bugme143 OK sorry not all of them were within the last decade but my point still stands. And wasn't this guy not talking more specifcally about the 70-90s? There are many movies, some neither of us have not mentioned that have this archetype. Not every film has to be this badass guy doing badass things, but you still have them films for the people who want them, like every decade of movies before now. Not every movie prior to the 2010s was about a badass guy was it? Cinema has also changed. It has to do with what films make the most money, it's not about demasculating men, I don't even know how that conclusion was made to be honest. Look at the highest grossing films of all time, the vast majority aren't a strong male stoic lead. Hollywood wants to make money, not please insecure men upset because a man in a superhero isn't completely void of emotion.

  • @garyflexon532
    @garyflexon532 8 месяцев назад +2

    Couldn't agree more! Did you ever do part 2 ? I seem unable to locate it!

  • @TheEasterFerret
    @TheEasterFerret Год назад +201

    You keep putting into words the subconscious reasons why I only watch older films these days.

    • @allseeingotto2912
      @allseeingotto2912 Год назад +10

      Or Japanese and Korean films

    • @geraldheinig1473
      @geraldheinig1473 Год назад +10

      Or none at all. For about 10 years now.

    • @emilnemyl448
      @emilnemyl448 Год назад

      Switched to reading, they cannot monopolize that market with crap. These days every hollywood movie is trash by default.