Older movies wanted to captivate audiences, tell stories, and build a legacy full of passion and love. Something that’s foreign to the modern movie making industry
No no. You got that wrong. They love to build a legacy full of passion and love.. Up your asshole whilst screaming at you for not doing and believing everything they tell you to. I mean it sure is captivating and worth telling stories about. 😆
This year we had 2 masterpieces, the batman and top gun. Prey was an amazing revival for a franchise as well. I'm thankful for these diamonds in the rough.
I don't mind some subverting of expectations. It just better be surprising, in a good, or clever, or entertaining way. The more frustrating, the more pointless, generally.
When I read that description, every word filled me with dread. Are they going to have everyone act like they're in high school too? Now that I'm older I recognise that the original Disney film sanitized a lot of stuff and basically made Hercules a lot like Superman. But I still don't mind, because it was a great film. It was funny, with great action and characterization. It even had a message of 'A hero is defined by their heart, rather than their actions.'
My teenage daughter told me a few weeks ago that she didn't really like movies and didn't understand why people care so much about them. In response we have spent the last few weekends watching some of my favorites; Gattaca, Vanilla Sky, Shawshank Redemption, The Grren Mile, Apollo 13, Interview with the Vampire, Dances with Wolves, Planet of the Apes (1968), Sweeney Todd, etc and now she concedes that she actually just doesn't like modern movies. She said to me that she just hates all movies made after 2010... lmao...
There are movies where the woman vs man fight is depicted in a way that women could win in real life too by using their agility and wits even without being bodybuilders, not every filmmaker has a competent enough crew to train actors to perform that though... That's why we see tiny girls pushing back much stronger men in a way that makes zero sense, it's not that women cannot win against much stronger men but that many filmmakers are incompetent enough to even see how silly their movies often look from point of anyone with close combat experience who got reasonable ideas about what can and what cannot be done against a much stronger opponent. The idea of putting a woman on an equal plane in movies is not bad in itself as old stories often depict the woman as inferior weak-minded beings by default from times when they were trading articles for property or even valuable animals, just the implementation is often silly, thus looking like a forced social engineering project where a woman is portraited in a way where it competes with a man physically in a manner that did not correspond with reality. Don't forget that even princess stories in decades-old movies were often already modified to be consumable by an audience of that time, we just remember the good examples that were not done by incompetent people, while today we see all that junk production despite the ratio between good and bad movies in AAA titles may not be significantly different, there is just far more of them per year around the world. Bad movies in old days had a far lower chance to lure audiences anyway as new production with good special effects and promotion campaign available these days make it possible for mediocre movies to be somewhat profitable today, so the main anger with new junk production is mainly in the fact that they still managing to make a lot of money despite even though they may deserve none, thus creating an incentive for more bad movies to be created. The fear of the success of low-quality products setting new standards we are unwilling to support is why people concerned with the quality of products watch reviews and actively fight against their proliferation in the first place. We just often want to see intention where is just sheer incompetence, there always were resorurce restrictions whatever in time or money, if anything, todays movies got budgets few decades ago could only dream about.
My favorite part is that the update to the dwarves in Snow white is barely an update. They were already hardworking miners and craftsmen who sold valuable jewels in order to survive in their idyllic cabin in the middle of the woods who then agree to take in a kind stranger down on her luck because she agrees to cook and clean their home while they're out working. They then basically accept her into their family and when she gets cursed, they both help destroy the person who cursed her and preserved her body until the day when someone could break the curse. The dwarves weren't comedy relief. They were the fucking heroes of the story
I’ll follow up on that. “Modern audiences” seem to be allergic to appropriate arrangements and quid pro quos. Cooking and cleaning in exchange for safety, food, and being treated as part of the family is a perfectly good and healthy system. They just gotta have abuse or sex involved somehow. Probably means they think they were abused as children for being forced to clean their rooms.
@Bluespirit Listen okay, women aren't allowed to cook and clean. Those are a MAN'S domain. Leave such work to MEN, it's laughable to even consider a woman cooking and cleaning or other such housework. A women should know her place is in the mines digging up carts full of gemstones, not at home playing with woodland critters.
Not in the eyes of the woke mob. Snow White is automatically entitled to room board, sustenance, and doesn't have to do anything because she's a strong independent Whahman that don't need no mian. Toxic Feminazism hard at not working.
As someone who was a part of the “modern audience” as a teen, a lot of it is emotional immaturity and the almost cultish approach to “woke” culture. Being told by the internet that if you don’t hit the diverse cast checkboxes, or write minorities with flaws, or include any amount of offensive humor, you’re a shit writer, really got into my head as an emotionally immature teen and caused a lot of unwarranted guilt. My dad showing me The Drinker kickstarted my escape from that mindset, and I’m looking forward to becoming a good writer instead of a “woke” one lol
Yeah that’s nonsense. If you start with a solid story with good characters first, your message will likely come out 20x more naturally than if you start with the m e s s a g e
As your thumbnail shows, you can evolve into many directions. I recommend the water pokey man, but the electrical one is probably the most successful. Read good writing. Gonna write scripts? Gotta read them so you know the template. Though you want your story to fit the frame, it also needs to grow organically from within you. Write your story for your Dad and not the world. Has a better chance of reaching the world that way. Good luck
Sure. When I was a teen I went down the right wing pipeline. Now that I‘m an adult I can see that pretty much anyone using the term woke is a moron who does not understand the proper context of things and would rather attack minorities than the capitalist corporations when they screw up
I’m black and I am disgusted at what is happening… to have these “allies” reduce my culture to whether or not I watch a tv show or movie is appalling… I am tired of the woke media being shoved down my throat and I’m not the only one…
The reason why Top Gun: Maverick was such a success was because they didn't pull any of this modern audience BS and just delivered a great action packed movie with an easy to follow plot. If it were to release back in the 80's or 90's it would have still been well received but not nearly to the degree it was now and that is because of how desperate people were for a movie that just wanted to entertain the audiences and not preach to them about "THE MESSAGE".
Let's see if others realise this when trying to analyse and replicate the success of Maverick. My bet is on them already churning bland sequels of similar franchise, but sticking to their losing formula.
that might be true but I think its important to note that the female pilot for example didnt outshine her peers or the main protagonist. In a truly woke version of the movie the main protagonist would have been shown as a failing loser, no longer capable of fullfilling his task. He would have make place for the female pilot who would be better than him at anything.
The fact that people choose to treat the snow white story as waiting for a prince to come and not extraordinary kindness get repaid at the end is a big problem we have in the world today. They literally look at the end result of a prince saving her life and forget the journey that took her there. Her kindness is what made the person who supposed to kill her spare her life. Her kindness is what made the 7 dwarves stick with her, help her when she is harmed. They also don't ignore the fact that your kindness can be abused as they show her get harmed for it but eventually she is still saved. The only problem that may need updated is the prince being her true love right away as the prince in the story is more of a device that serve the purpose of goodness will come to people who treat others kindly rather than a character.
Something else I noticed on rewatching a few years back, Snow White goes from being a helpless girl lost in the woods to a brave, strong, confident woman who decides to make the best of a bad situation. She doesn't beg the dwarves for mercy, she bargains with them as an equal. Her labor for food & shelter.
Exactly. Snow White was not only kind, but patient, brave, hard working, long suffering, and overall very inspiring. She didn’t let her fears overtake her and cause her to falter, she simply pushed through it. She was eventually rewarded with her own personal dream, which happened to be marrying her true love and living happily. She was a girl raised without the love of a mother, and barely knew the love of her father, and now she gets to have a wonderful family that she can raise herself. The only issue with snow whites character is her age, as she was only 14 and her prince was 30, which is highly inappropriate. But that did not factor into the original cartoon, it was simply the trappings of traditions kept centuries and centuries before, when many women died too young to wait to marry in their 30’s.
You’re assuming woke Hollywood writers understand things like subtlety and literary devices. They only understand things that are continuously whacked over their heads
They make movies to please their community of heterophobic, androphobic white-phobic weirdos. They please 1% of audience, basically. And piss off the other 99%. But they are so narcissist and delusional that they think their little community of weirdos represents a majority.
"Agreeability" is internalised Patriarchy. Sneering, snarling, snapping dagger-eared girlbosses are the true embodiment of the feminine ideal, and the only way for a woman to find true happiness. That, and box wine, and cats.
That's a great observation. How much did the ancient stories have to be adapted for modern audiences? I remember what they did to Beowulf in the 2000's and hated it. All I wanted was a screen version of the epic I read in high school. I understand cutting things to fit a run time but retooling the story is unacceptable.
I love how something like Top Gun: Maverick dispensed with this idea and reaped the rewards. They forget that the “modern” audience is largely comprised of the same people that loved the things they’re mangling decades ago. It’s not like we all just died off.
Top Gun Maverick has made nearly 1.5 billion dollars because it did what other successful movies before it has done: Focus on things that are universally appreciated by people who watch it. 1. Internal consistency. 2. Likable characters. 3. Immersion, suspense and actual stakes. 4. Respecting it's audience.
They WANT us to die off so badly that they keep thinking we have. Like a woman buying a dress three sizes too small and convincing herself she'll diet down before the wedding.
On a semi-related note, it’s incredible that Snow White still looks that good 80 years later. Amazing what art can do when you do it for the art instead of *THE MESSAGE*
CGI is getting worse and worse every year that passes. Compare Star Wars, LOTR, Avatar etc. To any of the most recent Disney+ shows... The art doesn't matter one bit.
@@Blobbyo25 thats probably due to them not giving the actuall animators and effects people enough time, going with the "good enough" or "just enough spectacle for people to not notice much" types of production lines. in all honesty theres not much more we can advance in CGI, especially at this point in time. and jusing it as a crutch to compensate for other things is so not the way to go. honestly, i think the way to go is blend CGI with IRL visual effects. some movies still do this, but not enough, and when done well its pretty great. but again, it doesnt matter how good or powerful a tool is if you cant use it properly, CGI or IRL effects.
Caught this one late! Excellent and well said. As a female I find it so hard to think nower days of female protagonists that are strong without it be blatantly being shoehorned into their character. The modern presentation of females, especially with Disney properties makes me continuously roll my eyes.
Also changing character [se**al orientation]/[gender identity] from original in source to "modern audience standard"... Here, in Russia we call this "sjw agenda". Really feels like you see this one almost everywhere nowadays. And in addition most of times film itself is not interesting as well. Stopped watching newer movies and cartoons about 10 years ago.
Imagine knowingly ignoring today's definition of racism bc it doesn't fit your narrative. You can have prejudice against white ppl but you can't be really racist against them.
@@doosin8696 Do you know what Jesus actually looked like? Can anyone be sure? If I had to guess, I'd say that you don't even have any idea of what the ethnic and cultural make up of the region where Jesus supposedly originates from was like, bearing in mind that Arabic people came to the region much later.
I recently saw a TikTok video where a guy said The Breakfast Club has not aged well because of “the crotch shot”. That’s right, a film about five students that come together as strangers and leave as friends after opening up to each other about suicide, depression, peer pressure, parental neglect and abuse and directed by one of the greatest filmmakers of the 80’s if not all time has not aged well because of a three second panty shot.
Oh, and let's not forget, the fact that the Bad Boy tried to get the Nerd to help him rape the Princess... And the Basket Case girl was ONLY ATTRACTIVE after her makeover! The horror...
Seriously? I mean, I’m not gonna advocate for sexual stuff in entertainment simply because I don’t like it and have moral objections, but one teeny scene about young people doing dumb young people stuff is hardly enough to ruin a movie 💀
The woke-mob were calling A Christmas Story racist because of the Chinese restaurant scene. They're like terminators. They don't feel, they don't sleep, they just attack.
I'm reading George Orwell's 1984 right now, and I have to say; this whole "re-writing history for a modern audience" angle is basically straight out that terrifying dystopian book...
We've been living in a Kafkaesque amalgamation of 1984 and Brave New World for a few decades now. This is basically like adding Fahrenheit 451 into the pot.
And the bit about not hitting people over the head with the message... I learned that the hard way, through things I wish I could go back in time and rephrase and through times I wish I'd held my tongue completely.
I was watching The Nightmare Before Christmas with my kids the other day, and I realized, intentional or not, it's an excellent allegory for how modern adaptations are made. Someone reads a book, and is fascinated by it, and decides they want to make it their own. "I want it, oh I want it!" Then they insert their own ideas, preferences, and biased messaging until it only relates to the original on an extremely surface level, and the people partaking in it are left disappointed, and the piece of media is a disaster. In the end it will become abundantly clear that Christmas was better left in the hands of Santa.
damn, that's a good analogy. jack didn't understand what made people love christmas, so in trying to recreate it, he twisted it in his own image until he created something no one liked. damn
I don’t understand why you want the remake to be a carbon copy of the old one? Just watch the old one. I don’t need all the wokeness in movies but I also don’t watch Disney Princess movies, nor do I care what ethnicity they are.
What amazes me is that they keep making these declarations despite it being obvious they are instantly labeling their stuff as box office poison for majority of the population, even those they are arguably catering for. The costs of marketing are often almost as big if not bigger than the costs of production... and then they use it in a way that makes people less likely to see their content. Absolutely insane.
As a Colombian, I don’t understand the need to cast Rachel Zegler as Snow White, I don’t want “diversity” just because, I want an accurate and entertaining film that doesn’t race swap a classic character.
They're incapable of making anything new or unique that is actually good. Their "directives" kill all form of free and creative thinking. So they must attach to a beloved classic like a leech and subvert it to their ends to get people to look at it and be influenced by it....only for people to reject it anyway cause you can't change human nature, for better or for worse.
@@Saberking875 Because she is Colombian, I am showing I don’t support casting diversity just because, I want actors to look like the original character.
That, along with well-drawn characters (no pun intended), is a big part of why _My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic_ and _Bluey_ both became international hits.
The problem with modern movies is... 1. Too much focus on franchises 2. Too much real world politics and a focus on "the message" 3. Whedonesque "snappy" dialogue is far too prevalent and annoying; Abrasive humor can undercut a movie completely 4. Too much terrible CGI 5. Films just look worse on digital compared to film, have you noticed how muted the colors are in movies lately? Or how they have an obnoxious blue filter? Forgot what channel I heard this term used to describe modern Hollywood movies but it's definitely factory filmmaking in the purest sense.
I think you're talking about Chris Gore from Film Courage. His critique on modern movies is astute and on-point. He's sick of it just like the rest of us - an actual honest critic who *wants* to enjoy the films he watches.
Like what drinker said these people have been praised and not challenged almost their entire lives. It’s basically people who live in their ivory towers for so long they come off as nonsensical to regular folk when they leave said tower.
This is EXACTLY why my wife and I have started to re-watch the movies from the 70s-2000s. Back then movies were great. You cheered on the heroes and remembered all the great one-liners or hero speeches. And why we don't go to the theater anymore. Modern movies suck.
Same. I prefer to rewatch movies from the 70’s to the early 2010’s before 2015 happened. At least back then, movies went out of their way to entertain you and not preach to you. Even though there have been some hidden celluloid gems since 2015, they get lost amidst the endless MCU series/movies and modern remakes that end up flopping.
Please define "the past" when it comes to movies. For me when I was growing up, the "past" years were the 1920s, '30s, '40s, '50s, and '60s. Now, of course, the '70s and the '80s have joined them in my imagination.
Hollywood (as a whole) needs a viable competitor. We all want movies from outside the LA echo chamber, and the creators who can figure that out and bypass the gatekeepers will get very, very rich.
Korea’s been increasingly killing it the last few years. To an objective viewer who doesn’t simply watch Hollywood movies because that’s ‘just where movies come from’, Korea is easily outshining Hollywood when it comes to visual storytelling now. Hong Kong and China aren’t doing too bad either. Asia writ-large is stepping their game up I guess lol. I also hear Scandinavia is making some of the best TV out there, but I haven’t checked any of that out yet. As for American films, you’ve got a few studios like A24 keeping good filmmaking alive, but they’re few and far between.
Also, the original Lara Croft, Ripley from Alien, Sarah Conner from Terminator, ... - not one of which had the need to pussify the male characters in the process of their being a strong character
One thing I noticed with modern movies is they have a cut every 2 to 5 seconds. It changes camera angle, cuts to wide shot, close up shot, flips between different characters, it's non stop. I watched Pulp Fiction for the first time recently and it was so different watching scenes be on the same camera angle for 20 seconds or longer. Crazy how noticable it is.
It is something made for people who can't focus more than 5 seconds in a "static" scene, so they can keep their attetion on the screen since we live in a generation where people just can't sit back, relax and enjoy slow things.
Those who have watched FRIENDS, remember the Bruce Willis episode where he is strong, silent, tough, protective? Rachel wants to get him to open up. What happens? See........
The main reason why japanese , korean entertainment is getting more and more popular day by day. They experiment with new ideas , they have originality , they want to tell a story with their media not just make money out of it. They have new innovative ideas , also while preserving their culture. They actually want to entertain their audience ( something hollywood hasn't been doing for a long time ).
As a fan of anime myself, I completely agree with you. I mean hell, anime extends out of their culture and experiment with other cultures (i.e. African American culture inspired shows such as Afro Samurai and Samurai Champloo). It feels the teams made those 2 with passion instead of "diversity" and "made for modern audiences".
But this also means some of othose Westerners (i.e. the women and the men who simp for them) will end up being attracted to that media and try to change that Japanese media for when it gets ported over to the US/translated. You should see what we're having to deal with when it comes to English "localized" versions of Japanese video games. It's awful, tons of wokeists ruining them.
Of course there is still a lot of lazy bad anime made as a cheap cash grabs, but the medium as a whole is in a much healthier state than mainstream western media.
Snow White: An unusually pale woman so kind-hearted and caring that wild animals and a band of rugged dwarves do their darndest to act polite to her. So sweet and innocent that the only person who could ever hate her is a wicked jealous queen who would poison her with a false gift. So charming and lovable that when she fell, it moved a most attractive young prince to even kiss her deceased lips, bringing her back to the joy and adoration of all. What some of these "writers" don't seem to understand is that a woman doesn't need to be just like the "the boys" in all their badassery to be an endearing character that people watch over 80 years later. She can be compassionate. What greater human strength is there than the strength of all those who will rally to you?
That's probably what modern movie-makers precisely cannot compute. For them, a character (especially of the "diverse" composition) just earn their likability by being sassy, egotistic, un-empathetic, and generally careless/bully-like on others. This is a big inconsistency since our general social experience (in real life) tells us that kind of behavior is precisely likely to make you unloved, un-trusted, and usually not wanted around.
@@herheartbeats5727 Modern Hollywood don’t grasp that since all of them from actor to producer to writer to director have gotten where they are by being un-empathetic and stepping on other people. Can’t expect people like that to tell a good story or create a relatable character that the audience can feel for.
@@savioblanc The version i know the pale bearer stumbled and she was shaken awake, the true love kiss is disney invention (still works in how such tales where told though), but it is kinda an prince turned frog kissed back to prince theme.... so no issues there either.
@@Spinosaurus44 Well it probably has something to do with those traits, though they are probably shared far beyond Hollywood (and the general entertainement industry). . Also, reminding how often the majority of us "ordinary" people accept or cheer the promotion of such samples of humanity (while also often complaining with the consequences) is not hopeful.
or playing a newer video game, as I have 0 interest in the witcher 1 remake `for modern audiences`, Dragon age 4 made `for modern audiences` or the race swap in God of war which will lead to the next one fighting a boss in a dress after you use the wrong pronoun. people ascept it and it grows, shame as i`s saved the money for it.
As a kid in the 70's, growing up in sunny Southern California, I was a big fan of Japanese action and animation tv programs. These certainly didn't "reflect the world I lived in," I liked them because they didn't reflect the world I lived in. All the characters were Japanese, all followed Japanese norms, all the scenes were Japan-centric, all were as foreign to me as aliens from Mars, but I loved these shows. Fast-forward many years, and I find myself living in Japan, and finding Japanese people who are rabid fans of old American westerns. The most popular movie ever screened in Japan was "One-eyed Jacks," a Marlon Brando western. No Japanese could relate to any part of that entire movie, yet that was why they loved it so much.
@breadandcircuses8127If I remember correctly, a lot of Japanese people find cowboys to be the American equivalent of samurai. Which is interesting considering that scholars see the roots of cowboy stories in European knights-errant stories which is kinda what a samurai is for the East. Everyone just likes stories about cool guys going on adventures.
On the other side of the world, I grew up watching Japanese cartoons, too, especially robot cartoons. They were full of Japanese values and we liked them a lot.
My sister went with a group of friends to see an "Updated Reimagining of a Musical Classic. Oklahoma!". At intermission, half the audience vanished. My sister stayed because they were supposed to have a late supper afterword. Later, over that meal, she learned every one in the party wanted to bail out as much as she did.
If you want this trend to stop, remember that the opposite of 'love' isn't hate, it's indifference. Don't watch these films. Don't discuss or review these films. Don't go with others to see these films. Simply pretend that they do not exist and, if someone wants you to go see it with them, tell them you're not interested and leave it at that. If enough people do this, they will be compelled to stop but even if that isn't for a while, you can still hold it as a quiet, personal virtue that you have done your part in at least not contributing to the vandalizing of European culture and history.
Considering how physical media is slowly being phased out itd be nice if there was a larger trend among people buying more dvds and prioritizing classics over the box office.
THIS. I'd love if people just stopped giving this crap the attention. In a lot of cases, I don't even know if they "update" franchises to appeal to their idea of a modern audience or even themselves. They do it because they know it'll create controversy within the fanbase and controversy creates attention. Attention they otherwise wouldn't have because they lack the talent and imagination to create anything compelling. But get people angry? Yeah, that's a good way to get them talking about something.
Most, if not all, of the 'updated for modern audiences' things pretty much have proven to have zero staying power--so I really don't think we need to tell people to be indifferent past "Don't waste your money or time." But Western mass media's current management isn't going to grasp what they're doing wrong and why audiences are bouncing on them if they don't get told. They're just not really diverse, because on the inside they're all the same person...and that person is a high-SES from birth (culturally) White dude...who is outright baffled by the whole "Other people are other people" thing that most people figure out in preschool. That's probably the 'modern audiences' that they're talking about, and the surprising thing is that it isn't even tinier.
no, it doesn`t work this way. If one wants to stop this trend, he doesn`t stop hating it and starts taking it indifferently, he helps OTHERS IN MASS take it indifferently.
@@МаксФлури yes, but people like the drinker make these movies relevant, while being too polarizing, and subjective to convince the majority of the viewers of his opinions
Agree totally, but just to clarify one point about Snow White. In the original story from the Brothers Grimm, Schneewittchen, Snow White was not awakened by a kiss from the man. She woke when a man fell in love with her corpse, carried away her coffin and dropped it by accident, dislodging the poison apple piece stuck in her throat which had "killed" her. Like most Grimm stories, Disney presumably found that too dark so updated it (for modern audiences in 1937) 😆
For children yeah; Think about it, at least they could show a prince and not a meek and weak snowflake, or a stuck-up chic who believes she can do anything and better than a guy ya'know.
More like they specifically wanted to make a film appropriate for all audiences and had to trim some darker aspects. Belle's nasty sisters aren't in beauty and the beast either. Nor is the father responsible for her being there.
“If you hate the source material so much, why even bother remaking it? Why not just come up with something new?” THANK YOU, DRINKER. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I don't think it is a matter of hating the source material. And I don't think "they" can't come up with new interesting stories. Personally I think the studios are the problem, studios want to exploit our nostalgia dollars and peak our interest with something from our past.
@@OmniversalInsect imagine how great that'll look on a resume in 10 years... unless we become so brainwashed that suddenly everyone will become a fan of the show, which hopefully won't happen
I don't mind Hollywood creating physically strong female characters. But I'm sick of that being that the only representation. And I'm also sick of the demonization of traditional feminity as being weak and less than. I love the traditional Disney princesses because they overcame their obstacles through kindness, compassion, patience, cleverness, and being a little daring. You can't always punch your problems.
fun fact. a lot of boys had crushes on the strong women of the 90s. lara croft was a sex symbol. she was smart, she was badass... but you know what was best about her? she wasn't forced down our throat. we came to love her naturally. but yeah. nowadays everything is totally forced. yay media. yay cinema. i need to smoke weed now.. me sad.
1 year on and this is prophetic, the whole modern audience never actually appeared and the film industry is at rock bottom, let’s see what another year does for this …
The clip of Clarice Starling in the bit about female characters is particularly striking. Writers today act like they're the first ones to discover that women aren't always treated the best, and of course all their portrayals have to be both hyperbolic and super on the nose. But in Silence of the Lambs, the film is saturated with that message without telling you it's doing that. You don't have Clarice complaining to Jamele Jamil about men this and catcalling that. You just have men either looking at her body or pretending to listen to her and then going and doing their own thing. The treatment she has being a woman in a man's world is like an anchor that weighs down the whole movie. In her scenes with Hannibal she's desperate to get him to take her seriously so he'll answer her questions. But he sees right through her and instead he observes all the things she does to get everyone else to try and take her seriously. And the irony of it all, is that he's the only one in the movie who really does take her seriously. Once he breaks down her defenses he's actually very intrigued with the woman underneath her social defenses. He takes her seriously because he knows she's intelligent enough to solve this case while most of her male superiors are tiresome to him. He knows that her compassion is real because it's driven by the trauma of her youth. And he knows that her determination means that she will persevere. All of this we learn from what he plucks from her brain, drawing out the bits of her character that make us root for her to catch Bill, and we share her frustration when the other people in their self assurances don't listen. This happens through character interaction, not through contrived hyperbolic examples or from people telling us exactly how unjust the world is. We feel its injustice with her. And this is a 35 year old movie.
Oh yes such a "feminist" movie so disregarded by these "feminist". That small elevator scene alone in Quantico, in its direction, not telling, just putting a perspective, like it doesn't, just brilliant.
@@copysulting you articulated perfectly my thoughts on neilunknown's comment that addresses how the drinker articulated perfectly what millions of us think.
Interestingly, LotR also presents a female character who actively acts against the trope, both in the book and in the movies in the form of Eowyn, and the movies also give Arwen a moment of absolute badassery (originally performed by basically the Batman of the Elves, no less). And this isn't unique for Tolkien lore. I mean, freaking Luthien. Just. Freaking. Luthien. And a number of other (predominantly Elven) very badass ladies.
I'm working on a "fanfic" of Fallout 3/New Vegas, channeling heroines like Eowyn in my protagonist. She's brilliant, beautiful, determined and driven by forces like protection and love of family. I kinda wish we'd seen a little more badassery from Arwen, but I suppose Eowyn was meant to be her foil. Arwen had love for Aragorn, and Eowyn had her love for her uncle and brother.
I'm old enough to remember when Hollywood started to hyper sexualize music & video; back then their response was always, "we're just giving the public what they want." Now when their audience rejects their diversity projects, they attack their audience for not wanting it.
It's a miracle we even got Top Gun Maverick in this [current year] and still managed to make BILLIONS in the aftermath while being respectful to what came before of it's franchise. Fun Fact: The same director of TG: Maverick is also the one who directed Tron Legacy- another franchise movie that respected its source material.
My dude, Mission: Impossible- Fallout is just as awesome. In fact I’d argue it’s better. That film is insanely well made. It easily obliterates the Craig Bond Era.
My step mom worked at a rental place when I was young in early 90's. School was also year round and went 9 weeks on and 3 weeks off. So i stead of childcare we went to work with her. Rewinding movies, putting them away and sitting behind the counter watching them. Gave me a great love for movies and the stories. Seeing everything destroyed is something I noticed just could not put my finger on it and Critical Drinker and others break downs gives me the words I never could express.
Sounds like my childhood but in the 80’s. My mum worked at a video shop and I used to bore the customers to death by putting Superman on every day. I think people also found it unusual that a 5 year old girl would be so into Superman. My god if it was today they’d be giving me puberty blockers! 😂
The problem with 90's movies is,that they are focused to much on 'american good guy' cliche,violence,horror,decadence,and repeated mistakes.And sometimes old used warnout movie can look 'new',if its just his name was changed.Just remember Terminator movies,and others movies full of androids and robots,created to kill humans by infiltration.Their is good reason why people don't like Arnold Scwarzenegger and action military movies anymore,its becouse they spread racism,fear,and stress.And if you want to see good stuff of movies,then thouse are drama movies based on real life stories,and historical crime novels.Personaly i like japanise anime,becouse they have true creativity,that can put to shame all messed up Hollywood rubbish.
@@slavenarkaimovski3897 This is a dumb take lol. I love it when someone says something is "a problem" because they dont like it. No, my dim witted friend, its not A problem, it's YOUR problem.
Without question, this is the best, most accurate and most desperately needed video you have ever made. This should be required viewing for the entire world, not just the talent-free hacks currently ruining pop culture in Hollywood and elsewhere. Thank you for making it and illuminating the truth for all to see. Long live The Critical Drinker!
There's plenty of good movies every year. Problem is people like Drinker and some in the comments only watch Marvel and Star Wars movies and don't support the good movies we do get.
@@hughjass69933 Well, they watch the movies that get the most attention and will be having the most impact. It's only logical. And the drinker does occasionally review smaller movies, or mention lesser-known films to make a point, it's not like he's completely ignoring everything else
Your so right but snowflakes aren't ready to look in the mirror yet. Plenty more participation awards and patting each other on the back for trying your best while losing millions for the company you work for to go yet. The bottom is a way off yet. Seatbelts everybody its going to be rough but its always darkest before the dawn.
The “modern audience” is a term that they use when they’re trying to gaslight their own fanbase into being perfectly fine with established source material being destroyed.
I refused to see “Joker” and my friends didn’t understand why. I said it’s just another Disney-esque story that will try to humanize and sympathize with a villain and show it wasn’t REALLY their fault that they became what they are. Sure enough…
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I went out to have a coffee with a girl I met online and she was into cinema. Incredible, she stated a lot of the things you point yourself, including James Bond. You´re just not a "critic for criticism", your job is providing a voice to countless people who don´t (no pun intended) identify with the way Hollywood is making movies these days. Keep up the good work Drinker!
You know, all the 7 dwarves had different personalities, but you could consider them all as generous, kind, brave (when needed) and competent in their trade, even Grumpy. NO ONE EVER disliked the 7 dwarves, not anyone with a soul anyway, we love them still. Is it really a problem for them to be comedic too? That made them endearing, we never respected them less for being funny, we won't respect them more for being not funny.
multifaceted personalities are the mark of a wizened person. we live in a land of confusion, ran by clowns, and dominated by loud mouthed fools. Wisdom does not have any place in the hectic, and depraved minds of today's culture. therefore today's gaggle of hen pecked writers are neither capable.nor allowed to write genuine multi-faceted characters.
You touched on something that I think is vital in these times. Genuine respect for differing perspectives. I remember when that was the definition of being an American....free speech and expression was the defining feature. We can have dramatically differing opinions but will defend your right to have them. There was a time when the ACLU defended actual NAZIS right to march in the streets of Skokie Illinois and it was held up as an ideal for Americans. That is the America I miss. One that felt confident enough to allow for different points of view to use the public space equally. Now we are all cultural cowards that need constant protection from using our own minds. We have outsourced our thinking and have become sheepish robots.
Well, can't speak for all Americans, especially since I'm not, I'm just in upside down land, although I can't say much for city folk, country folk are a different breed of human, and the only ones I have met with sense with what's actually decent and less sheep minded.
Sorry, but your rambling is horseshit. America never truly stood for freedom of speech. If you honestly think it did then only because you belonged to a group that was free to speak about their agenda. But I suppose when you grow up in America these details aren’t taught to you
Frankly, current western writers don't know how to balance their characters. A male character can be James Bond levels of badass and still have emotions. A female character can be an expert in combat and still be a compassionate person. I don't know how or why we've lost that.
Evidently they hire people with no proper writing experience in the name of "inclusion" and you get folks with no emotional intelligence who are therefore horrendously incapable of understanding character development.
Shark boy and Lava Girl is a movie I've come to appreciate, it's weird goofy and campy but because it leans into the idea of raw undiluted childish imagination, granted when I was that kids age I was fantasizing about the cast of beast wars teaming up against the shadows from balylone five or fighting the forces of hell itself.
I kid you not, when you mentioned the latina Snow White, this was the first time I heard about this so I went to my news feed and searched it for myself. The first article on the feed (written by a woke author) talked about how people were overreacting and literally said in exact words the first sentence "it isnt woke, it just reflects the world we live in today"
I had not heard about it before this video either, my first thought was along the lines of: “Wasn’t she called Snow White because her skin is white as snow”
... and the world we live in today has Korean girls for example, that are pale and have black hair. It would have been so simple and still race swapped. But I guess they just need to create the controversy.
Well the woke author isn't wrong : We do live in a world where "diversity" and "inclusion" is brute forced everywhere, so that's actually an accurate representation of the modern world.
@@ThyN00bly Snow White skin, red cheeks, and mirror that talks about her fair skin. The mermaid thing was weird but whatever- skin color isn't a big deal for that story. But in Snow White, it's the whole story, down to the freakin' name.
I remember the glorious days of the 70s to early 00s parody movies , most of which will never get made these days because everyone now is sensitive to everything and anything.
I guess you never heard of an old hippie but wise term "times-there-are-a-changin" because no one in drinker's fan base wants that including the druken Scottish haggis himself. Even if there's a movie that has inclusion with great writing, characters and storyline done by proper professionals, you won't see it because the film has people YOU HATE. Lightyear became a fail because the movie was truly meh, new Thor movie since it felt rushed and of course "Strange World" which no one heard of nor promoted (not even Disney promoted that!) Until you reactionaries spoke about it. This is the days you all wanna go back to and I know because I'm 33 and lived through them. 1. Gay bashing was the norm 2. When news stations vilified minorities night after night on the evening news making that ok to be racist. 3. When women knew their place 4. And offensive jokes were shrugged off despite the real life consequences they caused. Then the marginalized spoke out from their persecution and you all got terrified because the days of being a bigot was being numbered. I know experience since I myself used to be a fundamentalist Christian and did everything you all do for "hobby".
when I was a kid watching Snow White I saw the most pure and kind woman put on screen, her being animated only supported that well, it's a fantasy, but a good one. An example to follow when it comes to virtue. I didn't see her as a weak damsel in distress, but despite that I felt protective over her, since such kindness and pureness needs to be preserved at all cost. The strengths of feminity are those values, and while I love pants-wearing badass women like Ripley, Lara Croft or Sarah Connor there's still something otherworldy magical about characters like Snow White. Anyone who wants to change that character is basically my enemy, since they want to take those values away and change them.
Snow White is pretty much the Maiden archetype OG, The Princess Classic. An ideal of, to quote another Disney movie from far later "A Girl WORTH Fighting for."
I saw that movie so many times as a child for years I could recite the whole movie without a script. The OG Snow White does have some problems, but they are not related to Snow White being feminine or weak, and they could be easily fixed without changing her essence. She's not meant to be particularly smart or strong or even willful and that's okay, the whole point of her archetype is to inspire others, being so innocent/pure we can only get extreme reactions, either hatred or love. Like the old "men want her, women want to be her", as the stepmother hated her for being what she was not (in the original writings the stepmother/evil queen sees her as a rival, the lady's got issues), and the prince loved her for challenging him to become better to be "worthy" of her, and the hunter couldn't bring himself to such "sin" as killing such a pure creature. Snow being so kind makes the evil queen see it as a trap, the prince to see it as approval, and the hunter to see it as a test of character. Snow White is a force of (human) nature, pushing the plot just by virtue of existing in it, and I will defend her. The main problems with the OG Disney movie are: 1) she's depicted as way too young, at most a young teenager, paired with what is visibly at least a young adult. While her whole point is that she's young and naïve this runs into problematic territory... she can be made older and still naïve, it's all about upbringing, see Tangled. And 2) the prince himself is a non-character, he's a walking plot key to revive Snow at the end, he's got no motivation, no development, he doesn't even have a name in the movie, he's got no justification for even being at the final scene or kissing what everyone, including himself, thought was a dead woman then. He's on screen with Snow for a minute and sings a bit, and only sees her again on her "death" bed. People may complain that Sleeping Beauty was simplistic but at least the characters were justified in their actions, and even if prince Philip talked to Aurora/Briar Rose only once, it's implied they talked for hours, enough to establish a connection, and later the fairies give him the exposition necessary to justify the wake-up kiss. None of this require changing Snow White as a character, as by changing her character, and therefore her archetype, she stops being Snow White.
You know, i don't want to say that animes and mangas are perfect, but in those things, japanase are very good at doing that, making sweet girls with smiles that we want to protect I haven't seen a girl like that in wester media since.......Ellie from The Last Of Us or Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite
Yeah that's exactly what i was thinking lol .. like why would the queen even be jealous of her in the remake if they completely modernise her ? God it's so stupid.
I had someone get pissed at me when I said "I'll keep my opinion to myself since it's an unpopular one." And they STILL got angry. They could only guess what I thought and I guess it's always the worst thing in their imagination. If they used that imagination to write an original screenplay, we wouldn't be in this mess.
They are not allowed to use that creativity on screen: what if they decide to make a woman realistic, give her fears and motives other than 'we have to fight patriarchy' ? That would be disastrous!
@@sebastianb.3978 Because he's just espousing the reactive anti-PC playbook. What does it matter if a Columbian actress is playing Snow White? He doesn't seem to get the irony of his statement that only giving the casting opportunities to White women because of its roots (roots based on folktales with multiple endings, mind you) would indeed be intentionally racist. This is why the Hobbit had the controversy in New Zealand of not allowing any non-White actresses and actors to play as Hobbits in the background cast. He doesn't seem to critically evaluate his own comments, he's just espousing the quickest message for upvotes in a website that doesn't even allow downvotes anymore.
@@nichoudha classic reactive word salad pc response that uses a lot of words but says nothing. just admit you are an anti white racist, people would respect you more for being honest.
I’ve never once heard or met any member of this “modern audience”. In fact, I think most people are on board to be against most of this trash that gets released. The few and very loud supporters don’t even buy or view these products. We’re living in a strange backwards world and these companies would rather burn everything to the ground than to admit that they’re wrong.
They are more trying to create a new type of human via constant propaganda, rather than assuming the new (sheep like leftist) humanity is already the norm everywhere. Started with the commie takeover of universities as guys like Michael Rectenwald can explain to you. But these pop culture media critic RUclipsrs seldom get into stuff like that, even though it sets the whole context for their criticism of the industry.
Exactly. There are far more incels whining about this shit than "modern audiences" demanding it in film and TV. It's cynical pandering by out-of-touch rich idiots. Stop supporting it and it'll go away eventually. If we get an healthy and appropriate dose of representation out of it, it'll be worth it.
Years ago, I was called on to defend "Huck Finn" because Twain used a racial epithet throughout that was common among his characters. I wish I had been this eloquent and forceful as the CD.
Ironically, by updating the movie for modern audiences, they render their own version to be the opposite of timeless, since it will need to be updated for future audiences as well.
The Revolution always eats it's own children. Some already had it bad, thinking they would be on the right side of the "progressive" hammer forever. But not...
People have almost completely forgotten about the remakes of RoboCop and Total Recall, which starred white men so couldn't use the typical "you're racist" marketing. The people making RoboCop heard that they would have a shield against criticism if they made RoboCop black, but they misunderstood and made the RoboCop SUIT black instead of the actor! (Just kidding, but I wouldn't be surprised if that really happened.)
@@KasumiKenshirou I literally did forget about the RoboCop remake, and I'm not even sure I was aware of Total Recall. Why would you remake either of these when the originals are brilliant 80s-90s action flicks? They come from a magical place in the history of movie-making which no one could even begin to touch these days. Sadly we know the reasons... just dumb, out-of-touch Hollywood execs wanting more easy money.
I will never forget that time a teacher in my Spanish class told me that there’s a reason why classics are called classics: they have transcendent themes that are relatable to all generations, so we can all relate to them and that’s why we keep on loving the old stuff and calling it “a classic”
A lot of people claimed that old Disney princesses are just weak damsels & thus sex1$t. But they forgot that the actual eye candy, empty of personality reward is the princes, they were just there to solve the girls problems & give them happily ever after. The 1st prince to have a personality is Eric(Little Mermaid). Because they're not the protag, it's the princess the story focused on
@@ruthsaunders9507 He fight, but has nothing upstair. All I remember about him is that he's pretty & a good singer. This the reason it's my least favorite classic Disney movie: the princess is asleep most of the movie while the prince is as bland as the others
Back in the 80's and 90's, I would do my week's shopping, and then go watch a movie in the nearby cinema, before going home to my digs. That was 'every' week - there was something either well worth or reasonably worth watching. Last film I saw...The Darkest Hour. And now, sadly, we are suffering the film industry's own Darkest Hour. My local cinema shut down years ago, and then turned into a bingo hall (ffs). And there's no way that it'll be reopened as a screen again if we keep getting this endless, talentless crap from Hollywood. I am not in the least tempted to go and watch this new 'Snow White.' How the hell is the girl supposed to wake up from her poisoned sleep without love's true kiss? Omg...
Same here! When I was a kid in the 70’s and a teenager in the ‘80s, I used to go to the movies almost every weekend during the spring and summer months. Now? Why bother?! What’s wrong with making a good movie, Hollywood? If I want political propaganda, I’d watch Newsmax or the Huffington Post.
Apparently we gotta buy the tickets, but not turn up, instead give them to a black family, for wakanda forever.. lol yea, sure, these people are insane.. clearly
As a brown person, the brown snow white is just straight stupid and anyone who says otherwise is just too stupid to realize they are bing used as a token.
Male archetypes in cinema have not been just about strength and courage, they have been a mixture of vulnerability and inner strength. Think of Bogart in "Casablanca", Paul Newman in "The Hustler", Jon Voigt in "Midnight Cowboy", DeNiro in "Taxi Driver", all wounded men, but they all strive for redemption, their masculine inner core keeps them on the path of morality and ethics.
@@sabsain2399 These are not rare exceptions. Look at any great films, the male lead character are all wounded people. Jimmy Stewart in "It's a Wonderful Life". Jack Lemmon in "The Apartment". Orson Welles in "Citizen Kane". Tom Cruise in "Eyes Wide Shut", "Rain Man", "Top Gun". Paul Newman in "Cool Hand Luke". Tom Hanks in "Road to Perdition", etc. etc. etc. The characters are wounded because we are all wounded. We watch movies because we want to see these wounded people go through an arc, transformation, as we do for ourselves and for those we love.
@@palerider2890 Not sure what you were even trying to say since "courage" already implies you were vulnerable at some point; similar is the case with strength. You're just talking about certain archetypes of male characters you enjoy among millions of old ass movies/films
Disney be like: Snow Brown Cinder not vanilla Sleeping Black Beauty Black Little Mermaid Brown and the Beast Tangled In Dark Curls Brave to not be white
Historically, Bond did change once. On Her Majesty's Secret Service. He got married, and Blofeld killed his new wife. The movie basically ended with Bond crying over her body. It was remarkably sad in tone compared to the norm. The next movie opened with Bond going on an unmitigated killing spree of bloodthirsty revenge. It reminded me a lot of The Godfather, when Michael's first wife in Sicaly got carbombed. A really sobering moment. If I recall, it's one of the reasons Bond stopped letting himself get attached to people, at least for a while. I seem to recall this was also the movie where an actor played Bond only for one movie, and then didn't keep the role because they thought he was unusually dramatic as Bond. But I doubt anyone making these new movies have watched enough of the old stuff or read the books to know any of this.
Sorry to bother, but did you read the books yourself? Cause if you did, you would be rather more humble and accurate when criticizing creators of modern Bond movies - as they finally did get 007 right as Fleming wanted him to be: empty-hearted, cold-minded killing machine in HM’s hands, a shipwreck of a person, the one fills his hollowness and grief with substances, but yet not a plain drunk. (And he was never actually attached to anyone, not just for some time). It was Connery and Moore - especially Moore - who got 007 wrong; easy-going, elegant, ever smiling English comedian is almost the exact opposite of Fleming’s original character. The hardest irony there is that it were Connery’s 007 who was adopted to ‘modern audience’ of that time - and the script differed much from the original books (sometimes almost completely, like in ‘you only live twice’). But you seem to have nothing against the ‘modern audience’, it seems, unless you’re not in it. Also the real reason that Lazenby left is because of his disdain with film crew and because his agent convinced him that 007 will become obsolete and forgotten quite soon. What they both did not consider that there are millions who will consume the same story over and over again - including the sorry author of this video. He himself is the part of ‘modern audience’, albeit of the 80s, and just has a problem with ‘modern audiences’ of these days. The most ironic of all is that he regards the art the very same way SJWs and Hollywood producers do - as a mere product - and when he’s not targeted, he plays the crybaby the same way SJWs do (which is, coincidentally, the content of this video) The only thing he got right is there are no ‘modern audiences’ - there are different stories without any audience targeted beforehand (so you either listen or stop whining about the story not being appropriate for you) And James Bond’s story is one of them and was in fact drastically different from Connery era movies. And Barbara Broccoli’s response is right if you look at it from another perspective: there is a whole load of action movie franchises like Bourne and more a more are spawn, how do you compete with them on their own field? You don’t. You have to come up with another story and another character. Luckily, there is a reliable source.
No, that's fine. I seem to recall having read two of the books but it's been decades. Since it's been two months since I replied to this video (I really don't want to watch it again), my recollection was simply that everyone seems to have their own impression of "Bond", and it's apparently quite easy to consume enough of it to either forget or omit the rest and still treat yourself as an authority. This doesn't actually bother me that much with a case like this, since there is so much material out there that I think it's understandable, but it felt like an important detail from earlier movies was being ignored. I'll take your word that the author never let him get attached to someone, as it doesn't change that it occurs in the movie.
I was an actor in my 20s in the early to mid 2010s when all this crap was starting. I took a solo-show workshop where you write and perform a scene from a solo performance. Storytelling was a big part of the class. Despite this, I was the only one who came up with a fictional story and character. Everyone else either used it as a therapy session to whine about their problems or to push a certain message. Over time, I began to realize that very few people in the industry actually wanted to just make quality stories. Little by little, everything had a political message and something you wanted audiences to think after they watched your show/film/etc.
the only requirement i have when selecting a movie or show to watch is if it has a good story and good characters. its truly a drag when i literally spend half a standard films run time looking for a film to watch.
Like when me and my dad walked out of a showing of Black Panther. I turned to him and said “that was shit” That’s what I was thinking and everyone within earshot agreed with me.
@@ralphharrison6622 My favorite author once said that movie/tv show/book/comic needs to have balance of story, characters and world building. But great characters are definitely strongest of those and any work with great characters but decent story and decent world building will be much more likeable than great stories or world building with decent characters. Problem is that modern movies just love to ruin characters and what they stand for
I’d say that catering to “fan bases” is just as bad as catering to “modern audiences”. The Godfather did not cater to any fan base. Neither did Citizen Kane, Pulp Fiction, Shawshank Redemtion, or A Fistful of Dollars. They aspired to make a great movie, and only cater to the vision of the movie creator.
@@fr0ck360 I'm glad Mark Hamill stood up against it in interviews and said he doesn't believe the new movies are canon with how they ruined Luke. Harrison Ford just bounced and wanted nothing to do with it haha.
@@souldreamer9056 for original films you are correct. But for films set in already established worlds, like lotr, you do have to cater to the previous audience to some extent because they are the ones who are going to watch the new film or show.
The myth of modern audiences can be debunked very easily. If it were true that fans want a film that better reflects the world they live in, why are classic films still so popular despite the generation who made them being dead or close to it. It's because a good peice of art is universal. It can be viewed or heard by anyone at any time and invoke something different in everyone. That to me is what defines the good art from the bad.
@@alexrobertson557 *"why do people still listen the Elvis and the Beatles but no one will be listening to lilturkeytwizzler or whatever in 50 years"* Back when Elvis and the Beatles were contemporary, old guys were saying, "No one will be listening to them in 50 years". Make of that what you will.
I really like that "modern audience" label. They proudly advertise a movie, show or game with it and you know that you don't need to even bother. A real time and money saver!
Why must everything film-wise only come from Hollywood? Isn't the world supposed to be filled with independent film companies ? Do we have to ask Hollywood's permission if we want to make a film? Everything about them is cheap and tacky with American values I'm English and I have my own values as an English citizen and an individual
I showed my aunt some of these movies and the "modernization" of them and the first thing she said is that, they are really making a lot of unnecessary changes when it was good in the first place.
@@sidvyas8549 the obvious problem here is that it's not broken to you, to me and to other normal people, but to all those lunatics everything is broken, everything is wrong, everything is "problematic", and that's why they try to fix anything
One of the "boss characters" in my book is a chick who underestimates the protagonist. She ends up bringing her own doom. She should have just gotten help and the protagonist would have failed since he barely makes it out alive.
In the case of Bond, I find it odd that none seem to remember that he has had emotional depth even in the old movies. He was married. Yeah she died immediately, but it still happened. That moment was even referenced in a later film to show why he did not get close to anyone else. Bond just knew how to keep himself together so that he could go home in one piece.
Right! I mean, that's why I loved Daltons two films as Bond. Connery's films touched on how he would get close to people but then they die, but License To Kill even had him lose a coworker he was close to.
@@heathercontois4501 And the best thing about Dalton’s Bond? He cared about his allies. In the Living Daylights when Saunders dies and Bond finds a taunting balloon that says "Smiert Spionam", he pops it with the most venomous look of rage on his face. Same in Licence to Kill. When Felix is maimed by a shark, Bond goes all out to infiltrate Sanchez’s inner circle and destroy it from within. It’s an absolute crying shame Dalton never got the chance to do anymore.
As someone who spent has spent many years living in a black majority third world country and then also in an ethnically Chinese majority Asian country I can personally say that all this stuff about needing to update movies for "modern audiences" and making them more "diverse" and "inclusive" is absolute bunk. Even what we might consider the most foreign audiences have never had any problem relating to characters and themes in Western movies and TV shows, and that is why those movies have been HUGELY POPULAR all over the world for decades both through normal channels and via black market when not officially distributed in the country in question. There is no need to "update" the casting choices or the storylines and themes to make them appeal to a broader market, and anyone capable of objective analysis can see that these "updates" are actually having the opposite effect and making these movies less appealing to the market.
Looking forward to see what these new woke movies will do over there. Like, fine , Wakanda is in Africa so there is no racial diversity there, but what do Africans think about that? And how well do they watch RoP, do the numbers go over LotR yet?
Modern Translations: Diversity = Racism Equality = Sexism Idk about you, but if I watched movies from other cultures like Three Kingdoms, I would actually be really creeped out if they cast anyone who wasn't Asian... That same logic should also apply to western movies or any other culture if they only cast people of their majority race, even if it's just a preference. This "diversity" agenda is just wrong on so many levels. First of all, it usually makes no sense in the context, and even if it does it's incredibly disgusting that some people "can't identify" with characters that don't look like them... Normal people have no issues relating to characters that they like regardless of their race, gender, species, or even if they're an inanimate object... Most people aren't trying to "identify themself" in movies. That's fricken weird, the movie isn't supposed to be about you! You really have to be extremely self absorbed if you can't enjoy a movie or relate to characters unless they meet minimum requirements on a checklist of similarities to yourself... Modern script writers and woke weirdos are basically like TikTok girls who feel like they need to put their stupid face on every single little thing they post... Narcissism at it's finest.
If the "Modern Audience" is such a big demographic than why did Lightyear, Thor: Love and Thunder, and Strange World bomb at the box office? You know, the movies that made sure to tick off the boxes "Modern Audiences wanted." On the other hand, films like Top Gun Maverick, Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero, and Minions were focused on delivering movies their audiences wanted without feeling the need to tick off boxes to make "modern audiences" happy and all these films were successful at the box office. The "modern audience" is an illusion and until these idiots wake up they will keep running things into the ground and lose money.
Glad you mentioned Sonic the Hedgehog 2. That film really cared about it's video game roots and genuinely wanted both the fans and the general audience to have fun. It had a (mostly) good story, a cast of likable characters, bombastic action scenes, well-done performances and Jim Carrey. Hell, it's become the highest grossing video game movie of all time and the best video game movie ever made! (Sadly many people or "modern audiences" don't seem to bother)
@@ceasarsaran8573 Well, then - "As reported by Deadline, James Cameron’s film, which has been 13 years in the making, has so far grossed $435 million worldwide in its opening three days, marginally less than its $500 million target. In the US, the film has taken $134 million so far, just short of its $150-$175 million projections." Oh dear... Wonder how this compares to the original Avatar?
I encountered our good friend the Critical Drinker when I was driving across the country from North Carolina clear to Wyoming. I binged almost every single one of his videos, and my god man do I have to say you've given me hope that everyone isnt simply a brainwashed "yes daddy" of the machine as we see all too often. Its good to know theres people out there equally as tired of this $h!7 as I am, and can notice it in the media we are presented today. Keep doing what you do my man, cause we need it out here.
People born after 2000 don't have enough life experience to be trusted with remaking classic movies, tv shows, etc. They are green, they are rookies, they lack perspective and shouldn't be trusted with anything made before 2000.
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Hollywood:- remakes old movie for cash grab by saying its for the "modern audience"
The audience:- Rewatches the original.
That’s because the originals are always good
Edit: okay maybe one exception would be the Star Wars prequels but that’s a totally different story
Example = point break, remake was garbage!!
Hollywood: yea! We got fresh money from old movies.
Unfortunately some of those Disney live action remakes made a billion each
@@jaredsmith112 Some, like the first ones, but i believe i can say that's not the case with the newer ones.
Older movies wanted to captivate audiences, tell stories, and build a legacy full of passion and love. Something that’s foreign to the modern movie making industry
All new movies do is push THE MESSAGE.
Fr. Thankfully you will found some gold.
No no. You got that wrong. They love to build a legacy full of passion and love..
Up your asshole whilst screaming at you for not doing and believing everything they tell you to.
I mean it sure is captivating and worth telling stories about. 😆
This year we had 2 masterpieces, the batman and top gun. Prey was an amazing revival for a franchise as well. I'm thankful for these diamonds in the rough.
You're over complicating it. Everything woke turns to shit and its just that simple.
"Modern audience" "Diverse casting" and "subverting expectations" are 3 movie killers.
It's the "Triangle of Death" for movies nowadays
"re-imagining" is another red flag.
I don't mind some subverting of expectations.
It just better be surprising, in a good, or clever, or entertaining way. The more frustrating, the more pointless, generally.
Only if you're a bigot.
It has gotten so bad that the only way to "subvert my expectations" would be for them to produce a good movie.
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.”
Amen
That's simply because evil destroys everything. Corrupting an existing IP is just a subtle form of destruction.
Lay down the apocalyptic pipe, though.
Thanks Tolkein
Then, storms are evil
Hearing Disney say the Hercules remake *"will be modern musical inspired by TikTok"* was genuinely the scariest thing I've ever read.
Just like sony when they first greenlit the emoji movie because emojis are popular with the young kiddies nowadays.
I'm like, seriously... We go from Broadway to Tik Tok for musicals. Seems like the higher ups at Disney are in major desperate mode.
Yet some people will defend it and say "it reflects morals and values that could be found in the original movie"
When I read that description, every word filled me with dread. Are they going to have everyone act like they're in high school too?
Now that I'm older I recognise that the original Disney film sanitized a lot of stuff and basically made Hercules a lot like Superman. But I still don't mind, because it was a great film. It was funny, with great action and characterization. It even had a message of 'A hero is defined by their heart, rather than their actions.'
So, people would be eating tide pods in the movie?
I just don't understand why Hollywood, TV and Cinema don't realize that Twitter does not speak for the masses
Because the capitalist class lives in their own world
Because they don't care. They are staffed by the Twitter retards.
Hollywood lives on Twitter, to them Twitter represents the opinions of the masses.
It's a a part mass media complex spreading mental contagion by elevating one idea to gaslight people to think the thing they peddle is normal.
They understand it. This is called cultural subversion. Why do you think they're not worried about losing billion after billion?
"Villainy wears many masks; none so dangerous as the mask of virtue." - Washington Irving
"We're oft to blame, tis too much proved. That with devotion's visage and pious actions, we do sugar o'er the devil himself."
"You will stay here for the rest of your lives. You will be happy. And controlled." I, Mudd, original Star Trek episode.
Leftism is a mental illness
Hehehe. Yeah. Because TCD isn't acting "virtuous" at all, right? I mean, he's only trying to SAVE movies. Hilarious.
I liked i love you daddy because it is different from the woke movies
My teenage daughter told me a few weeks ago that she didn't really like movies and didn't understand why people care so much about them. In response we have spent the last few weekends watching some of my favorites; Gattaca, Vanilla Sky, Shawshank Redemption, The Grren Mile, Apollo 13, Interview with the Vampire, Dances with Wolves, Planet of the Apes (1968), Sweeney Todd, etc and now she concedes that she actually just doesn't like modern movies. She said to me that she just hates all movies made after 2010... lmao...
Great shout with Planet of the Apes. Top 5 favorite movie of all time!
The only thing movies are good for nowadays is watching the drinker absolutely tear them apart for being so bad
Speaking of Interview with a vampire, have you seen AMC's version? it's awful.
Well there are some good movies after 2010, but I understand her 🙂
That's just good parenthood right there. Good job.
“We want the film to reflect the world we live in.”
*Depicts tiny women beating up big men*
And the grimm realistic of real life struggle
So succinct and perfectly stated.
None of the women have muscle either..
There are movies where the woman vs man fight is depicted in a way that women could win in real life too by using their agility and wits even without being bodybuilders, not every filmmaker has a competent enough crew to train actors to perform that though...
That's why we see tiny girls pushing back much stronger men in a way that makes zero sense, it's not that women cannot win against much stronger men but that many filmmakers are incompetent enough to even see how silly their movies often look from point of anyone with close combat experience who got reasonable ideas about what can and what cannot be done against a much stronger opponent.
The idea of putting a woman on an equal plane in movies is not bad in itself as old stories often depict the woman as inferior weak-minded beings by default from times when they were trading articles for property or even valuable animals, just the implementation is often silly, thus looking like a forced social engineering project where a woman is portraited in a way where it competes with a man physically in a manner that did not correspond with reality.
Don't forget that even princess stories in decades-old movies were often already modified to be consumable by an audience of that time, we just remember the good examples that were not done by incompetent people, while today we see all that junk production despite the ratio between good and bad movies in AAA titles may not be significantly different, there is just far more of them per year around the world. Bad movies in old days had a far lower chance to lure audiences anyway as new production with good special effects and promotion campaign available these days make it possible for mediocre movies to be somewhat profitable today, so the main anger with new junk production is mainly in the fact that they still managing to make a lot of money despite even though they may deserve none, thus creating an incentive for more bad movies to be created. The fear of the success of low-quality products setting new standards we are unwilling to support is why people concerned with the quality of products watch reviews and actively fight against their proliferation in the first place. We just often want to see intention where is just sheer incompetence, there always were resorurce restrictions whatever in time or money, if anything, todays movies got budgets few decades ago could only dream about.
@@ShesNotAPeanut Or really any training. They just do a lot of cuts to make it seem like they can fight. Usually looks terrible.
My favorite part is that the update to the dwarves in Snow white is barely an update. They were already hardworking miners and craftsmen who sold valuable jewels in order to survive in their idyllic cabin in the middle of the woods who then agree to take in a kind stranger down on her luck because she agrees to cook and clean their home while they're out working. They then basically accept her into their family and when she gets cursed, they both help destroy the person who cursed her and preserved her body until the day when someone could break the curse. The dwarves weren't comedy relief. They were the fucking heroes of the story
I’ll follow up on that. “Modern audiences” seem to be allergic to appropriate arrangements and quid pro quos. Cooking and cleaning in exchange for safety, food, and being treated as part of the family is a perfectly good and healthy system. They just gotta have abuse or sex involved somehow. Probably means they think they were abused as children for being forced to clean their rooms.
@Bluespirit Listen okay, women aren't allowed to cook and clean. Those are a MAN'S domain. Leave such work to MEN, it's laughable to even consider a woman cooking and cleaning or other such housework.
A women should know her place is in the mines digging up carts full of gemstones, not at home playing with woodland critters.
THIS!!!!!
Not in the eyes of the woke mob. Snow White is automatically entitled to room board, sustenance, and doesn't have to do anything because she's a strong independent Whahman that don't need no mian. Toxic Feminazism hard at not working.
@Bluespirit Not to even mention there was basically a bounty out on her. Laying low in a cabin in the woods seems like a good idea...
As someone who was a part of the “modern audience” as a teen, a lot of it is emotional immaturity and the almost cultish approach to “woke” culture. Being told by the internet that if you don’t hit the diverse cast checkboxes, or write minorities with flaws, or include any amount of offensive humor, you’re a shit writer, really got into my head as an emotionally immature teen and caused a lot of unwarranted guilt. My dad showing me The Drinker kickstarted my escape from that mindset, and I’m looking forward to becoming a good writer instead of a “woke” one lol
What a good dad you have for doing that, saving his kid from the woke terminal
Yeah that’s nonsense. If you start with a solid story with good characters first, your message will likely come out 20x more naturally than if you start with the m e s s a g e
As your thumbnail shows, you can evolve into many directions. I recommend the water pokey man, but the electrical one is probably the most successful. Read good writing. Gonna write scripts? Gotta read them so you know the template. Though you want your story to fit the frame, it also needs to grow organically from within you. Write your story for your Dad and not the world. Has a better chance of reaching the world that way. Good luck
Three loud cheers!!
Sure. When I was a teen I went down the right wing pipeline.
Now that I‘m an adult I can see that pretty much anyone using the term woke is a moron who does not understand the proper context of things and would rather attack minorities than the capitalist corporations when they screw up
I’m black and I am disgusted at what is happening… to have these “allies” reduce my culture to whether or not I watch a tv show or movie is appalling… I am tired of the woke media being shoved down my throat and I’m not the only one…
"If you don't watch Black Panther, you ain't black"
thats what I always imagined you felt, it must be so incredibly patronising having woke white people tell you what blackness means
Say it louder for the ones in the back!
Thank you baphomet
Good to know more people believe the word “Woke” can be used in a different context than to just be progressive……………
The reason why Top Gun: Maverick was such a success was because they didn't pull any of this modern audience BS and just delivered a great action packed movie with an easy to follow plot. If it were to release back in the 80's or 90's it would have still been well received but not nearly to the degree it was now and that is because of how desperate people were for a movie that just wanted to entertain the audiences and not preach to them about "THE MESSAGE".
Let's see if others realise this when trying to analyse and replicate the success of Maverick. My bet is on them already churning bland sequels of similar franchise, but sticking to their losing formula.
while the movie was great and fun to watch, it still had a lot of PC stuff and "diverse people"
that might be true but I think its important to note that the female pilot for example didnt outshine her peers or the main protagonist. In a truly woke version of the movie the main protagonist would have been shown as a failing loser, no longer capable of fullfilling his task. He would have make place for the female pilot who would be better than him at anything.
@@lunisinko7498 exactly and it would've subverted your attention. The second it starts for me I know what kind of show or film I am watching
@@ViperGTS737 Probably to avoid the unfounded shitlib negative press publicity of ist and phobes accusations
The fact that people choose to treat the snow white story as waiting for a prince to come and not extraordinary kindness get repaid at the end is a big problem we have in the world today.
They literally look at the end result of a prince saving her life and forget the journey that took her there.
Her kindness is what made the person who supposed to kill her spare her life. Her kindness is what made the 7 dwarves stick with her, help her when she is harmed. They also don't ignore the fact that your kindness can be abused as they show her get harmed for it but eventually she is still saved.
The only problem that may need updated is the prince being her true love right away as the prince in the story is more of a device that serve the purpose of goodness will come to people who treat others kindly rather than a character.
Something else I noticed on rewatching a few years back, Snow White goes from being a helpless girl lost in the woods to a brave, strong, confident woman who decides to make the best of a bad situation. She doesn't beg the dwarves for mercy, she bargains with them as an equal. Her labor for food & shelter.
Exactly. Snow White was not only kind, but patient, brave, hard working, long suffering, and overall very inspiring. She didn’t let her fears overtake her and cause her to falter, she simply pushed through it. She was eventually rewarded with her own personal dream, which happened to be marrying her true love and living happily. She was a girl raised without the love of a mother, and barely knew the love of her father, and now she gets to have a wonderful family that she can raise herself. The only issue with snow whites character is her age, as she was only 14 and her prince was 30, which is highly inappropriate. But that did not factor into the original cartoon, it was simply the trappings of traditions kept centuries and centuries before, when many women died too young to wait to marry in their 30’s.
You’re assuming woke Hollywood writers understand things like subtlety and literary devices. They only understand things that are continuously whacked over their heads
They make movies to please their community of heterophobic, androphobic white-phobic weirdos.
They please 1% of audience, basically.
And piss off the other 99%.
But they are so narcissist and delusional that they think their little community of weirdos represents a majority.
"Agreeability" is internalised Patriarchy. Sneering, snarling, snapping dagger-eared girlbosses are the true embodiment of the feminine ideal, and the only way for a woman to find true happiness. That, and box wine, and cats.
damn, i'm so relieved we could at least have the Lord of the Rings right before the collective madness really set feet in our pop culture.
In retrospect those movies may very well be the end of an era
Me too. I love that trilogy.
amen
Agreed, they could never be made today.
There is a reason why we can still get captivated by Ancient Greek tragedies: We still fight the same fights and fight for the same virtues.
We're still the same species
@@rog6725 except with a little dumber ideals nowadays which would mean most people (liberals) somehow devolved with time
Speaking of strong female characters....Antigone, anyone?
Hellenic tragedies were an evolution of religious sacrificial rites.
That's a great observation. How much did the ancient stories have to be adapted for modern audiences?
I remember what they did to Beowulf in the 2000's and hated it. All I wanted was a screen version of the epic I read in high school. I understand cutting things to fit a run time but retooling the story is unacceptable.
I love how something like Top Gun: Maverick dispensed with this idea and reaped the rewards. They forget that the “modern” audience is largely comprised of the same people that loved the things they’re mangling decades ago. It’s not like we all just died off.
They hope and try to brainwash everyone
Top Gun Maverick has made nearly 1.5 billion dollars because it did what other successful movies before it has done: Focus on things that are universally appreciated by people who watch it.
1. Internal consistency.
2. Likable characters.
3. Immersion, suspense and actual stakes.
4. Respecting it's audience.
Young people like traditional movie making too, they just are given the option anymore.
@@barongerhardt Like what, I didn't see anything you wouldn't have seen in a movie ten to 15 years ago
They WANT us to die off so badly that they keep thinking we have.
Like a woman buying a dress three sizes too small and convincing herself she'll diet down before the wedding.
On a semi-related note, it’s incredible that Snow White still looks that good 80 years later.
Amazing what art can do when you do it for the art instead of *THE MESSAGE*
CGI is getting worse and worse every year that passes. Compare Star Wars, LOTR, Avatar etc. To any of the most recent Disney+ shows... The art doesn't matter one bit.
@@Blobbyo25 Yea, noticed that too. The CGI literally hurt my eyes and leaves me feeling sick
I miss hand-drawn animation so much
@@Blobbyo25 thats probably due to them not giving the actuall animators and effects people enough time, going with the "good enough" or "just enough spectacle for people to not notice much" types of production lines.
in all honesty theres not much more we can advance in CGI, especially at this point in time. and jusing it as a crutch to compensate for other things is so not the way to go. honestly, i think the way to go is blend CGI with IRL visual effects. some movies still do this, but not enough, and when done well its pretty great.
but again, it doesnt matter how good or powerful a tool is if you cant use it properly, CGI or IRL effects.
It's a sad world when Snow white and the huntsman is the best live version of snowwhite we'll get.
Caught this one late! Excellent and well said. As a female I find it so hard to think nower days of female protagonists that are strong without it be blatantly being shoehorned into their character. The modern presentation of females, especially with Disney properties makes me continuously roll my eyes.
Yeah I don't get why any women like that because they seem like they'd be huge bitches to just about anyone.
Imagine replacing characters because of the color of their skin and it not being considered racist.
Jesus joined the chat
Also changing character [se**al orientation]/[gender identity] from original in source to "modern audience standard"...
Here, in Russia we call this "sjw agenda". Really feels like you see this one almost everywhere nowadays. And in addition most of times film itself is not interesting as well.
Stopped watching newer movies and cartoons about 10 years ago.
Imagine knowingly ignoring today's definition of racism bc it doesn't fit your narrative. You can have prejudice against white ppl but you can't be really racist against them.
@@doosin8696 back then it was done out of necissity since they didn´t have many actors of clor in Hollywood.
@@doosin8696 Do you know what Jesus actually looked like? Can anyone be sure? If I had to guess, I'd say that you don't even have any idea of what the ethnic and cultural make up of the region where Jesus supposedly originates from was like, bearing in mind that Arabic people came to the region much later.
I recently saw a TikTok video where a guy said The Breakfast Club has not aged well because of “the crotch shot”. That’s right, a film about five students that come together as strangers and leave as friends after opening up to each other about suicide, depression, peer pressure, parental neglect and abuse and directed by one of the greatest filmmakers of the 80’s if not all time has not aged well because of a three second panty shot.
What do you expect from TikTok though? Isn't the average age about 15? This is all they know
Oh, and let's not forget, the fact that the Bad Boy tried to get the Nerd to help him rape the Princess...
And the Basket Case girl was ONLY ATTRACTIVE after her makeover!
The horror...
Seriously? I mean, I’m not gonna advocate for sexual stuff in entertainment simply because I don’t like it and have moral objections, but one teeny scene about young people doing dumb young people stuff is hardly enough to ruin a movie 💀
The woke-mob were calling A Christmas Story racist because of the Chinese restaurant scene. They're like terminators. They don't feel, they don't sleep, they just attack.
Imbeciles Only recognize Surface level Tragedy, non of the Humanity beneath it.
I'm reading George Orwell's 1984 right now, and I have to say; this whole "re-writing history for a modern audience" angle is basically straight out that terrifying dystopian book...
Just change Big Brother to Big Sister and you're all set
And now You are in this little part of humans who knows that we are screwed
We've been living in a Kafkaesque amalgamation of 1984 and Brave New World for a few decades now.
This is basically like adding Fahrenheit 451 into the pot.
Who gets their history from corporate movies
The youngest generation.
If Modern audiences actually existed these shows, movies, and games wouldn’t all be failing.
I mean… said minorities and left people exist.
They just aren’t a target audience for garbage movies
And the bit about not hitting people over the head with the message... I learned that the hard way, through things I wish I could go back in time and rephrase and through times I wish I'd held my tongue completely.
I was watching The Nightmare Before Christmas with my kids the other day, and I realized, intentional or not, it's an excellent allegory for how modern adaptations are made.
Someone reads a book, and is fascinated by it, and decides they want to make it their own. "I want it, oh I want it!" Then they insert their own ideas, preferences, and biased messaging until it only relates to the original on an extremely surface level, and the people partaking in it are left disappointed, and the piece of media is a disaster. In the end it will become abundantly clear that Christmas was better left in the hands of Santa.
Nicely observed. 🙂
and it was not inteneded
damn, that's a good analogy. jack didn't understand what made people love christmas, so in trying to recreate it, he twisted it in his own image until he created something no one liked. damn
Neat analogy!! Very Good! Thanks.
Brilliant!
Personally, I love it when studios make these kinds of declarations about upcoming movies. It lets me know I don't need to bother seeing them.
My man here being smart. I'm the same, I look for the buzzwords and swipe left.
same for video games.
I don’t understand why you want the remake to be a carbon copy of the old one? Just watch the old one. I don’t need all the wokeness in movies but I also don’t watch Disney Princess movies, nor do I care what ethnicity they are.
Box office revenues keep going downhill but somehow they still don't get it
What amazes me is that they keep making these declarations despite it being obvious they are instantly labeling their stuff as box office poison for majority of the population, even those they are arguably catering for. The costs of marketing are often almost as big if not bigger than the costs of production... and then they use it in a way that makes people less likely to see their content. Absolutely insane.
As a Colombian, I don’t understand the need to cast Rachel Zegler as Snow White, I don’t want “diversity” just because, I want an accurate and entertaining film that doesn’t race swap a classic character.
An accurate film about.... Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs? Give me a break.
EXACTLY!
They're incapable of making anything new or unique that is actually good. Their "directives" kill all form of free and creative thinking. So they must attach to a beloved classic like a leech and subvert it to their ends to get people to look at it and be influenced by it....only for people to reject it anyway cause you can't change human nature, for better or for worse.
What does being Colombian have anything to do with this? You are just playing into the woke hand
@@Saberking875 Because she is Colombian, I am showing I don’t support casting diversity just because, I want actors to look like the original character.
I love the fact you did a entire reel of movies that STILL hold up today compared to what we're currently getting.
I watch the twilight zone for October, man that show is so fucking good and that's for the 60s man.
The thing about successful movies is that they capture timeless ideas and communicate them to a new audience.
That, along with well-drawn characters (no pun intended), is a big part of why _My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic_ and _Bluey_ both became international hits.
The problem with modern movies is...
1. Too much focus on franchises
2. Too much real world politics and a focus on "the message"
3. Whedonesque "snappy" dialogue is far too prevalent and annoying; Abrasive humor can undercut a movie completely
4. Too much terrible CGI
5. Films just look worse on digital compared to film, have you noticed how muted the colors are in movies lately? Or how they have an obnoxious blue filter?
Forgot what channel I heard this term used to describe modern Hollywood movies but it's definitely factory filmmaking in the purest sense.
I think you're talking about Chris Gore from Film Courage. His critique on modern movies is astute and on-point. He's sick of it just like the rest of us - an actual honest critic who *wants* to enjoy the films he watches.
Like what drinker said these people have been praised and not challenged almost their entire lives. It’s basically people who live in their ivory towers for so long they come off as nonsensical to regular folk when they leave said tower.
It's literally just the Js.
It's really that simple.
@@mickeymickey9914 Kanye is right
Joss Whedon and his style has done such horrendous damage to writing as an art form and business
This is EXACTLY why my wife and I have started to re-watch the movies from the 70s-2000s. Back then movies were great. You cheered on the heroes and remembered all the great one-liners or hero speeches. And why we don't go to the theater anymore. Modern movies suck.
@Chad 007 no
Me and my fiancée are doing exactly the same thing! There are so many good films and series from the past, we don't even miss the modern cinema.
I almost exclusively watch movies from 1980’s to 2010.
I've been doing the same with just about every form of media that I engage with. Whether it be video games, books, music.
Same. I prefer to rewatch movies from the 70’s to the early 2010’s before 2015 happened. At least back then, movies went out of their way to entertain you and not preach to you. Even though there have been some hidden celluloid gems since 2015, they get lost amidst the endless MCU series/movies and modern remakes that end up flopping.
And this is precisely why I now cherish movies of the past SO much more than I ever did.
Watch Goodfellas or Pulp Fiction with a nephew who has never seen it, and their minds will be blown. Movies were good, and dangerous.
Please define "the past" when it comes to movies. For me when I was growing up, the "past" years were the 1920s, '30s, '40s, '50s, and '60s. Now, of course, the '70s and the '80s have joined them in my imagination.
Never mind the Hollywood Critiquer, this guy is the enlightened social commentator I've been waiting to hear. Bravo. And a fellow Scot too!
Hollywood (as a whole) needs a viable competitor. We all want movies from outside the LA echo chamber, and the creators who can figure that out and bypass the gatekeepers will get very, very rich.
Korea’s been increasingly killing it the last few years. To an objective viewer who doesn’t simply watch Hollywood movies because that’s ‘just where movies come from’, Korea is easily outshining Hollywood when it comes to visual storytelling now. Hong Kong and China aren’t doing too bad either. Asia writ-large is stepping their game up I guess lol. I also hear Scandinavia is making some of the best TV out there, but I haven’t checked any of that out yet.
As for American films, you’ve got a few studios like A24 keeping good filmmaking alive, but they’re few and far between.
Turn to anime, comic and book readers have already switched to manga so now it's time for tv and movie watchers to switch to anime.
British and Australian TV has largely gone woke as well ☹️
Scorsese, Tarantino, Richie, Cruise to name a few that Hollywood could never change, all is not lost
@@hoaujudaiyubelwhat you really mean is "resistance is futile"
Mulan (the original animated one) is honestly what a "strong female character" should be
Mulan
1998 is a classic
Sarah Connor
Ripley
@Lachie well chinese audiences loved it so chill
Also, the original Lara Croft, Ripley from Alien, Sarah Conner from Terminator, ... - not one of which had the need to pussify the male characters in the process of their being a strong character
One thing I noticed with modern movies is they have a cut every 2 to 5 seconds. It changes camera angle, cuts to wide shot, close up shot, flips between different characters, it's non stop. I watched Pulp Fiction for the first time recently and it was so different watching scenes be on the same camera angle for 20 seconds or longer. Crazy how noticable it is.
I agree the cuts and quick angle shot in movies is a replacement for quality. Sort of like a band that plays real loud because their not very good .
it's the tik toc camera "work".
@@-Siculus-Hort- It's been around far longer than tiktok...
It is something made for people who can't focus more than 5 seconds in a "static" scene, so they can keep their attetion on the screen since we live in a generation where people just can't sit back, relax and enjoy slow things.
I complain about that all the time to my husband. I call it eye slapping . You can not even focus before it gets changed .
Those who have watched FRIENDS, remember the Bruce Willis episode where he is strong, silent, tough, protective? Rachel wants to get him to open up. What happens? See........
Chicken boy 😭
The main reason why japanese , korean entertainment is getting more and more popular day by day. They experiment with new ideas , they have originality , they want to tell a story with their media not just make money out of it. They have new innovative ideas , also while preserving their culture. They actually want to entertain their audience ( something hollywood hasn't been doing for a long time ).
_Kingdom_ friggin' _rocks_
As a fan of anime myself, I completely agree with you. I mean hell, anime extends out of their culture and experiment with other cultures (i.e. African American culture inspired shows such as Afro Samurai and Samurai Champloo). It feels the teams made those 2 with passion instead of "diversity" and "made for modern audiences".
But this also means some of othose Westerners (i.e. the women and the men who simp for them) will end up being attracted to that media and try to change that Japanese media for when it gets ported over to the US/translated.
You should see what we're having to deal with when it comes to English "localized" versions of Japanese video games. It's awful, tons of wokeists ruining them.
And mate the manga business is out selling comics
Of course there is still a lot of lazy bad anime made as a cheap cash grabs, but the medium as a whole is in a much healthier state than mainstream western media.
Snow White: An unusually pale woman so kind-hearted and caring that wild animals and a band of rugged dwarves do their darndest to act polite to her. So sweet and innocent that the only person who could ever hate her is a wicked jealous queen who would poison her with a false gift. So charming and lovable that when she fell, it moved a most attractive young prince to even kiss her deceased lips, bringing her back to the joy and adoration of all.
What some of these "writers" don't seem to understand is that a woman doesn't need to be just like the "the boys" in all their badassery to be an endearing character that people watch over 80 years later. She can be compassionate. What greater human strength is there than the strength of all those who will rally to you?
That's probably what modern movie-makers precisely cannot compute. For them, a character (especially of the "diverse" composition) just earn their likability by being sassy, egotistic, un-empathetic, and generally careless/bully-like on others. This is a big inconsistency since our general social experience (in real life) tells us that kind of behavior is precisely likely to make you unloved, un-trusted, and usually not wanted around.
@@herheartbeats5727 Modern Hollywood don’t grasp that since all of them from actor to producer to writer to director have gotten where they are by being un-empathetic and stepping on other people. Can’t expect people like that to tell a good story or create a relatable character that the audience can feel for.
Just to be clear, this is Disney's Snow White.
You don't want to know what the Prince did to her in the German fairy tale
@@savioblanc The version i know the pale bearer stumbled and she was shaken awake, the true love kiss is disney invention (still works in how such tales where told though), but it is kinda an prince turned frog kissed back to prince theme.... so no issues there either.
@@Spinosaurus44 Well it probably has something to do with those traits, though they are probably shared far beyond Hollywood (and the general entertainement industry).
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Also, reminding how often the majority of us "ordinary" people accept or cheer the promotion of such samples of humanity (while also often complaining with the consequences) is not hopeful.
“Designed for past audiences” would be a tagline that would get me into a theater.
That's pretty much what Top Gun Maverick is, and it made a heap of cash.
or playing a newer video game, as I have 0 interest in the witcher 1 remake `for modern audiences`, Dragon age 4 made `for modern audiences` or the race swap in God of war which will lead to the next one fighting a boss in a dress after you use the wrong pronoun. people ascept it and it grows, shame as i`s saved the money for it.
Instead of all this "Designed for ... Audience" how about designed to be good? Because I haven't seen one like that in a while
Or "actual" audiences.
@@TheCentralScrutinizerAgain Wait...Witcher 1 is not just a graphical remake? They're updating its content too?
As a kid in the 70's, growing up in sunny Southern California, I was a big fan of Japanese action and animation tv programs. These certainly didn't "reflect the world I lived in," I liked them because they didn't reflect the world I lived in. All the characters were Japanese, all followed Japanese norms, all the scenes were Japan-centric, all were as foreign to me as aliens from Mars, but I loved these shows. Fast-forward many years, and I find myself living in Japan, and finding Japanese people who are rabid fans of old American westerns. The most popular movie ever screened in Japan was "One-eyed Jacks," a Marlon Brando western. No Japanese could relate to any part of that entire movie, yet that was why they loved it so much.
@breadandcircuses8127If I remember correctly, a lot of Japanese people find cowboys to be the American equivalent of samurai. Which is interesting considering that scholars see the roots of cowboy stories in European knights-errant stories which is kinda what a samurai is for the East. Everyone just likes stories about cool guys going on adventures.
To watch real life, stand on the street in front of a movie theater. To watch someone else's life, go inside the theater.
A simple but forgotten fact.
hmmm
On the other side of the world, I grew up watching Japanese cartoons, too, especially robot cartoons. They were full of Japanese values and we liked them a lot.
It took me until after the Hokage got unalived before I could keep track of the Japanese names in Naruto. But I'm better for it, I think
My sister went with a group of friends to see an "Updated Reimagining of a Musical Classic. Oklahoma!". At intermission, half the audience vanished. My sister stayed because they were supposed to have a late supper afterword. Later, over that meal, she learned every one in the party wanted to bail out as much as she did.
Lol. That’s golden
Did everybody get refunds?
Too bad! They could have lingered over an extended dinner.
I’m trying to imagine an updated Seven Brides for Seven Brothers. That would be hilarious!
After…WARDS!
If you want this trend to stop, remember that the opposite of 'love' isn't hate, it's indifference. Don't watch these films. Don't discuss or review these films. Don't go with others to see these films. Simply pretend that they do not exist and, if someone wants you to go see it with them, tell them you're not interested and leave it at that. If enough people do this, they will be compelled to stop but even if that isn't for a while, you can still hold it as a quiet, personal virtue that you have done your part in at least not contributing to the vandalizing of European culture and history.
Considering how physical media is slowly being phased out itd be nice if there was a larger trend among people buying more dvds and prioritizing classics over the box office.
THIS. I'd love if people just stopped giving this crap the attention. In a lot of cases, I don't even know if they "update" franchises to appeal to their idea of a modern audience or even themselves. They do it because they know it'll create controversy within the fanbase and controversy creates attention. Attention they otherwise wouldn't have because they lack the talent and imagination to create anything compelling. But get people angry? Yeah, that's a good way to get them talking about something.
Most, if not all, of the 'updated for modern audiences' things pretty much have proven to have zero staying power--so I really don't think we need to tell people to be indifferent past "Don't waste your money or time." But Western mass media's current management isn't going to grasp what they're doing wrong and why audiences are bouncing on them if they don't get told. They're just not really diverse, because on the inside they're all the same person...and that person is a high-SES from birth (culturally) White dude...who is outright baffled by the whole "Other people are other people" thing that most people figure out in preschool.
That's probably the 'modern audiences' that they're talking about, and the surprising thing is that it isn't even tinier.
no, it doesn`t work this way. If one wants to stop this trend, he doesn`t stop hating it and starts taking it indifferently, he helps OTHERS IN MASS take it indifferently.
@@МаксФлури yes, but people like the drinker make these movies relevant, while being too polarizing, and subjective to convince the majority of the viewers of his opinions
Agree totally, but just to clarify one point about Snow White. In the original story from the Brothers Grimm, Schneewittchen, Snow White was not awakened by a kiss from the man. She woke when a man fell in love with her corpse, carried away her coffin and dropped it by accident, dislodging the poison apple piece stuck in her throat which had "killed" her. Like most Grimm stories, Disney presumably found that too dark so updated it (for modern audiences in 1937) 😆
For children yeah; Think about it, at least they could show a prince and not a meek and weak snowflake, or a stuck-up chic who believes she can do anything and better than a guy ya'know.
M O D E R N E S P U B L I K U M
More like they specifically wanted to make a film appropriate for all audiences and had to trim some darker aspects. Belle's nasty sisters aren't in beauty and the beast either. Nor is the father responsible for her being there.
Also older than the 19th c.
@@poopsmith6853Bluth could have done it
“If you hate the source material so much, why even bother remaking it? Why not just come up with something new?”
THANK YOU, DRINKER. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
@Classic Tate I am so confused
@@ninjustice5574 That's a spam bot, man. Also, to answer the quoted question, "Because they CAN'T."
I don't think it is a matter of hating the source material. And I don't think "they" can't come up with new interesting stories. Personally I think the studios are the problem, studios want to exploit our nostalgia dollars and peak our interest with something from our past.
Something that didn't happen, okay.
They remake it because they hate it so much. It needs to be changed in their weird minds.
The creators of Velma certainly lived up to the pitfalls of making a series for "Modern Audiences".
That show really is a tipping point in everyone's patience for such problems in media
@@OmniversalInsect imagine how great that'll look on a resume in 10 years... unless we become so brainwashed that suddenly everyone will become a fan of the show, which hopefully won't happen
*Can't wait for the SNOW **-WHITE-** TAN fairytale remake!*
I know right.
They didn't make a series for "The Modern Audience." They made a series for Mindy Kaling.
I don't mind Hollywood creating physically strong female characters. But I'm sick of that being that the only representation. And I'm also sick of the demonization of traditional feminity as being weak and less than. I love the traditional Disney princesses because they overcame their obstacles through kindness, compassion, patience, cleverness, and being a little daring. You can't always punch your problems.
fun fact. a lot of boys had crushes on the strong women of the 90s.
lara croft was a sex symbol. she was smart, she was badass...
but you know what was best about her? she wasn't forced down our throat.
we came to love her naturally.
but yeah. nowadays everything is totally forced. yay media. yay cinema.
i need to smoke weed now.. me sad.
@@hoebertrabeck1621 nah what drew me in was not Lara Crofts badassery but her triangular boobs lol jk
Yes you can
Weird, because they constantly call femininity better than masculinity....
Exactly. They create their "strong female" character by essentially making her a man.
1 year on and this is prophetic, the whole modern audience never actually appeared and the film industry is at rock bottom, let’s see what another year does for this …
The clip of Clarice Starling in the bit about female characters is particularly striking. Writers today act like they're the first ones to discover that women aren't always treated the best, and of course all their portrayals have to be both hyperbolic and super on the nose.
But in Silence of the Lambs, the film is saturated with that message without telling you it's doing that. You don't have Clarice complaining to Jamele Jamil about men this and catcalling that. You just have men either looking at her body or pretending to listen to her and then going and doing their own thing. The treatment she has being a woman in a man's world is like an anchor that weighs down the whole movie.
In her scenes with Hannibal she's desperate to get him to take her seriously so he'll answer her questions. But he sees right through her and instead he observes all the things she does to get everyone else to try and take her seriously.
And the irony of it all, is that he's the only one in the movie who really does take her seriously. Once he breaks down her defenses he's actually very intrigued with the woman underneath her social defenses. He takes her seriously because he knows she's intelligent enough to solve this case while most of her male superiors are tiresome to him. He knows that her compassion is real because it's driven by the trauma of her youth. And he knows that her determination means that she will persevere. All of this we learn from what he plucks from her brain, drawing out the bits of her character that make us root for her to catch Bill, and we share her frustration when the other people in their self assurances don't listen.
This happens through character interaction, not through contrived hyperbolic examples or from people telling us exactly how unjust the world is. We feel its injustice with her. And this is a 35 year old movie.
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John Reese spitting facts as always. I love you
Excellent analysis. Agreed on all counts!
I miss when movies didn't have dialog that is insulting with the unnecessary exposition
Oh yes such a "feminist" movie so disregarded by these "feminist". That small elevator scene alone in Quantico, in its direction, not telling, just putting a perspective, like it doesn't, just brilliant.
Thank you Critical Drinker for articulating what millions of us think.
Spot on
@@copysulting you articulated perfectly my thoughts on neilunknown's comment that addresses how the drinker articulated perfectly what millions of us think.
Trillions
He's the voice of the cinematically frustrated, hands down
Hear here!
I am proud of not being a part of modern audience. Good video, as always.
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@@contrapasso1539 that's antisemitic
because the modern audience doesn't exist
@@Slothi_Deathi no, they do sadly exist. I know some of them pesoonaly.
Like 99% of the world... they live in an echo chamber, thats why all the shit they push out ends up failing.
Interestingly, LotR also presents a female character who actively acts against the trope, both in the book and in the movies in the form of Eowyn, and the movies also give Arwen a moment of absolute badassery (originally performed by basically the Batman of the Elves, no less).
And this isn't unique for Tolkien lore. I mean, freaking Luthien. Just. Freaking. Luthien. And a number of other (predominantly Elven) very badass ladies.
Yes! And yet those female characters still managed to be feminine and radiate kindness and gentleness to their friends and loved ones!
I'm working on a "fanfic" of Fallout 3/New Vegas, channeling heroines like Eowyn in my protagonist. She's brilliant, beautiful, determined and driven by forces like protection and love of family.
I kinda wish we'd seen a little more badassery from Arwen, but I suppose Eowyn was meant to be her foil. Arwen had love for Aragorn, and Eowyn had her love for her uncle and brother.
Luthien defeated THURINGWETHIL all to gain a disguise!
"That's not modernization, its bastardization." Wordsmith, truly!
Its almost like he is a writer himself
@Chad 007 no
@@rhysprendergast5842 report the bots
@@ptptpt123 He fancies himself a writer
You are very easily impressed, I see.
I'm old enough to remember when Hollywood started to hyper sexualize music & video; back then their response was always, "we're just giving the public what they want." Now when their audience rejects their diversity projects, they attack their audience for not wanting it.
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You're probably old enough to be alive during the time when racism, homophobis and sexism was at an all time high
@@purpleclaws202 Probably not. Unless you think homophobia, racism and sexism was at an all time high only a few decades ago.
@ it was...
@@purpleclaws202 Not
It's a miracle we even got Top Gun Maverick in this [current year] and still managed to make BILLIONS in the aftermath while being respectful to what came before of it's franchise.
Fun Fact: The same director of TG: Maverick is also the one who directed Tron Legacy- another franchise movie that respected its source material.
And "they" tried to tell us we shouldn't have fun with it too.
The two films had the same director? Dang i'm a huge fan of legacy and I didn't even know that.
Did you not understand the video? Good movies still make bank. The modern audience who dislikes these movies doesn’t exist.
My dude, Mission: Impossible- Fallout is just as awesome. In fact I’d argue it’s better.
That film is insanely well made. It easily obliterates the Craig Bond Era.
@@StandTheOffensive I always liked MI over Craig's Bond movies even before the wokeness.
and ends in "akanda".. best line ever.
My step mom worked at a rental place when I was young in early 90's. School was also year round and went 9 weeks on and 3 weeks off. So i stead of childcare we went to work with her. Rewinding movies, putting them away and sitting behind the counter watching them. Gave me a great love for movies and the stories. Seeing everything destroyed is something I noticed just could not put my finger on it and Critical Drinker and others break downs gives me the words I never could express.
Cringe.
You shouldn't let incels dictate your opinions.
Sounds like my childhood but in the 80’s. My mum worked at a video shop and I used to bore the customers to death by putting Superman on every day. I think people also found it unusual that a 5 year old girl would be so into Superman. My god if it was today they’d be giving me puberty blockers! 😂
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Actually, using incel as some kind of argument is the definition of cringe.
The problem with 90's movies is,that they are focused to much on 'american good guy' cliche,violence,horror,decadence,and repeated mistakes.And sometimes old used warnout movie can look 'new',if its just his name was changed.Just remember Terminator movies,and others movies full of androids and robots,created to kill humans by infiltration.Their is good reason why people don't like Arnold Scwarzenegger and action military movies anymore,its becouse they spread racism,fear,and stress.And if you want to see good stuff of movies,then thouse are drama movies based on real life stories,and historical crime novels.Personaly i like japanise anime,becouse they have true creativity,that can put to shame all messed up Hollywood rubbish.
@@slavenarkaimovski3897 This is a dumb take lol. I love it when someone says something is "a problem" because they dont like it. No, my dim witted friend, its not A problem, it's YOUR problem.
Without question, this is the best, most accurate and most desperately needed video you have ever made. This should be required viewing for the entire world, not just the talent-free hacks currently ruining pop culture in Hollywood and elsewhere. Thank you for making it and illuminating the truth for all to see. Long live The Critical Drinker!
I still put “Why we need heroes” at the top of that list. But this is absolutely up there.
There's plenty of good movies every year. Problem is people like Drinker and some in the comments only watch Marvel and Star Wars movies and don't support the good movies we do get.
@@hughjass69933 Well, they watch the movies that get the most attention and will be having the most impact. It's only logical.
And the drinker does occasionally review smaller movies, or mention lesser-known films to make a point, it's not like he's completely ignoring everything else
@@hughjass69933 Because those movies are NOT from an English-speaking nation. He'll have to read subtitles to understand what's going on.
Your so right but snowflakes aren't ready to look in the mirror yet. Plenty more participation awards and patting each other on the back for trying your best while losing millions for the company you work for to go yet. The bottom is a way off yet. Seatbelts everybody its going to be rough but its always darkest before the dawn.
The “modern audience” is a term that they use when they’re trying to gaslight their own fanbase into being perfectly fine with established source material being destroyed.
I refused to see “Joker” and my friends didn’t understand why. I said it’s just another Disney-esque story that will try to humanize and sympathize with a villain and show it wasn’t REALLY their fault that they became what they are. Sure enough…
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I actually had no idea about that, thanks for the book recommendation!
I’ve been meaning to try out the Drake books.
Not exactly my bag, but I just picked up Dark Harvest on my e-reader instead.
Check's in the mail 😉
No - I need to read his books, though, really.
I went out to have a coffee with a girl I met online and she was into cinema. Incredible, she stated a lot of the things you point yourself, including James Bond. You´re just not a "critic for criticism", your job is providing a voice to countless people who don´t (no pun intended) identify with the way Hollywood is making movies these days. Keep up the good work Drinker!
So... when's the wedding?
@@IceBroncos86 never. Coffee dates = hinge/tender meet up before the 304 heads to Chad/Tyrone house 🤣
@@Chris-es3wf oh come on don't say that maybe he's a chad/Tyrone himself
@@Halo4beatsB02 then he won't pursue relationship (extrapolating the Chad/Tyrone logic)
What a load of bullshit, girls don't exist
You know, all the 7 dwarves had different personalities, but you could consider them all as generous, kind, brave (when needed) and competent in their trade, even Grumpy. NO ONE EVER disliked the 7 dwarves, not anyone with a soul anyway, we love them still. Is it really a problem for them to be comedic too? That made them endearing, we never respected them less for being funny, we won't respect them more for being not funny.
Each had a flaw core to their personality, but they each had strengths that they shared.
Comedy denotes intelligence, a concept that is off-putting for Modern Audiences.
Well they were also dwarves, as in magical creatures that live in the wilderness, not just some random group of seven people afflicted with dwarfism.
multifaceted personalities are the mark of a wizened person.
we live in a land of confusion, ran by clowns, and dominated by loud mouthed fools.
Wisdom does not have any place in the hectic, and depraved minds of today's culture.
therefore today's gaggle of hen pecked writers are neither capable.nor allowed to write genuine multi-faceted characters.
You shouldn't call them dwarves, that's offensive. They are people of restricted stature.
You touched on something that I think is vital in these times. Genuine respect for differing perspectives. I remember when that was the definition of being an American....free speech and expression was the defining feature. We can have dramatically differing opinions but will defend your right to have them. There was a time when the ACLU defended actual NAZIS right to march in the streets of Skokie Illinois and it was held up as an ideal for Americans. That is the America I miss. One that felt confident enough to allow for different points of view to use the public space equally. Now we are all cultural cowards that need constant protection from using our own minds. We have outsourced our thinking and have become sheepish robots.
Well, can't speak for all Americans, especially since I'm not, I'm just in upside down land, although I can't say much for city folk, country folk are a different breed of human, and the only ones I have met with sense with what's actually decent and less sheep minded.
Sorry, but your rambling is horseshit. America never truly stood for freedom of speech.
If you honestly think it did then only because you belonged to a group that was free to speak about their agenda.
But I suppose when you grow up in America these details aren’t taught to you
"Not modernization but bastardization." PERFECTLY said!
Frankly, current western writers don't know how to balance their characters. A male character can be James Bond levels of badass and still have emotions. A female character can be an expert in combat and still be a compassionate person.
I don't know how or why we've lost that.
You know the fact that I actually miss characters like Sharkboy and Lavagirl really shows how far we have fallen
Evidently they hire people with no proper writing experience in the name of "inclusion" and you get folks with no emotional intelligence who are therefore horrendously incapable of understanding character development.
The writers of She-Hulk were particularly egregious about this.
Cultural Marxist of the Frankfurt school is the reason. All our institutions are run by Marxist.
Shark boy and Lava Girl is a movie I've come to appreciate, it's weird goofy and campy but because it leans into the idea of raw undiluted childish imagination, granted when I was that kids age I was fantasizing about the cast of beast wars teaming up against the shadows from balylone five or fighting the forces of hell itself.
I kid you not, when you mentioned the latina Snow White, this was the first time I heard about this so I went to my news feed and searched it for myself. The first article on the feed (written by a woke author) talked about how people were overreacting and literally said in exact words the first sentence "it isnt woke, it just reflects the world we live in today"
I had not heard about it before this video either, my first thought was along the lines of: “Wasn’t she called Snow White because her skin is white as snow”
... and the world we live in today has Korean girls for example, that are pale and have black hair. It would have been so simple and still race swapped. But I guess they just need to create the controversy.
It is more than that.. research George Soros and his lobbying efforts to destroy white heritage and culture
Well the woke author isn't wrong : We do live in a world where "diversity" and "inclusion" is brute forced everywhere, so that's actually an accurate representation of the modern world.
@@ThyN00bly Snow White skin, red cheeks, and mirror that talks about her fair skin. The mermaid thing was weird but whatever- skin color isn't a big deal for that story. But in Snow White, it's the whole story, down to the freakin' name.
I remember the glorious days of the 70s to early 00s parody movies , most of which will never get made these days because everyone now is sensitive to everything and anything.
"Updated for modern audiences" = We'll take something that was unique and turn it into something that feels like everything else.
It means it will deliver THE MESSAGE and social engineering.
@@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU predictive programming
Same people think growth and change means progress and improvement.
what if we remade masa musa with a white guy? wouldn"t that be weird.
I guess you never heard of an old hippie but wise term "times-there-are-a-changin" because no one in drinker's fan base wants that including the druken Scottish haggis himself. Even if there's a movie that has inclusion with great writing, characters and storyline done by proper professionals, you won't see it because the film has people YOU HATE. Lightyear became a fail because the movie was truly meh, new Thor movie since it felt rushed and of course "Strange World" which no one heard of nor promoted (not even Disney promoted that!) Until you reactionaries spoke about it. This is the days you all wanna go back to and I know because I'm 33 and lived through them.
1. Gay bashing was the norm
2. When news stations vilified minorities night after night on the evening news making that ok to be racist.
3. When women knew their place
4. And offensive jokes were shrugged off despite the real life consequences they caused.
Then the marginalized spoke out from their persecution and you all got terrified because the days of being a bigot was being numbered. I know experience since I myself used to be a fundamentalist Christian and did everything you all do for "hobby".
when I was a kid watching Snow White I saw the most pure and kind woman put on screen, her being animated only supported that well, it's a fantasy, but a good one. An example to follow when it comes to virtue. I didn't see her as a weak damsel in distress, but despite that I felt protective over her, since such kindness and pureness needs to be preserved at all cost.
The strengths of feminity are those values, and while I love pants-wearing badass women like Ripley, Lara Croft or Sarah Connor there's still something otherworldy magical about characters like Snow White.
Anyone who wants to change that character is basically my enemy, since they want to take those values away and change them.
Snow White is pretty much the Maiden archetype OG, The Princess Classic. An ideal of, to quote another Disney movie from far later "A Girl WORTH Fighting for."
I saw that movie so many times as a child for years I could recite the whole movie without a script. The OG Snow White does have some problems, but they are not related to Snow White being feminine or weak, and they could be easily fixed without changing her essence. She's not meant to be particularly smart or strong or even willful and that's okay, the whole point of her archetype is to inspire others, being so innocent/pure we can only get extreme reactions, either hatred or love. Like the old "men want her, women want to be her", as the stepmother hated her for being what she was not (in the original writings the stepmother/evil queen sees her as a rival, the lady's got issues), and the prince loved her for challenging him to become better to be "worthy" of her, and the hunter couldn't bring himself to such "sin" as killing such a pure creature. Snow being so kind makes the evil queen see it as a trap, the prince to see it as approval, and the hunter to see it as a test of character. Snow White is a force of (human) nature, pushing the plot just by virtue of existing in it, and I will defend her.
The main problems with the OG Disney movie are: 1) she's depicted as way too young, at most a young teenager, paired with what is visibly at least a young adult. While her whole point is that she's young and naïve this runs into problematic territory... she can be made older and still naïve, it's all about upbringing, see Tangled. And 2) the prince himself is a non-character, he's a walking plot key to revive Snow at the end, he's got no motivation, no development, he doesn't even have a name in the movie, he's got no justification for even being at the final scene or kissing what everyone, including himself, thought was a dead woman then. He's on screen with Snow for a minute and sings a bit, and only sees her again on her "death" bed. People may complain that Sleeping Beauty was simplistic but at least the characters were justified in their actions, and even if prince Philip talked to Aurora/Briar Rose only once, it's implied they talked for hours, enough to establish a connection, and later the fairies give him the exposition necessary to justify the wake-up kiss. None of this require changing Snow White as a character, as by changing her character, and therefore her archetype, she stops being Snow White.
Well said, fantasy is to give us the light of our true values, to see that we want to protect, to preserve, to grow to be
You know, i don't want to say that animes and mangas are perfect, but in those things, japanase are very good at doing that, making sweet girls with smiles that we want to protect
I haven't seen a girl like that in wester media since.......Ellie from The Last Of Us or Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite
Yeah that's exactly what i was thinking lol .. like why would the queen even be jealous of her in the remake if they completely modernise her ? God it's so stupid.
I had someone get pissed at me when I said "I'll keep my opinion to myself since it's an unpopular one." And they STILL got angry. They could only guess what I thought and I guess it's always the worst thing in their imagination. If they used that imagination to write an original screenplay, we wouldn't be in this mess.
They are not allowed to use that creativity on screen: what if they decide to make a woman realistic, give her fears and motives other than 'we have to fight patriarchy' ? That would be disastrous!
They could just see a Neuremberg rally running inside your head. To them, anything they disagree with is LITERALLY HITLER.
They would just assume the worst no matter what you said anyway.
Smh
Don’t HIDE anything ever
That has to be the finest collection of brief movie moments ever assembled. And great commentary too!
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" Mark Twain
Perfectly describes Critical Drinker lol
@@carybeweary7209 How?
@Sebastian B. Cause mf has been fooled into a delusional view of the world by people trying to use his vote
@@sebastianb.3978 Because he's just espousing the reactive anti-PC playbook. What does it matter if a Columbian actress is playing Snow White? He doesn't seem to get the irony of his statement that only giving the casting opportunities to White women because of its roots (roots based on folktales with multiple endings, mind you) would indeed be intentionally racist. This is why the Hobbit had the controversy in New Zealand of not allowing any non-White actresses and actors to play as Hobbits in the background cast. He doesn't seem to critically evaluate his own comments, he's just espousing the quickest message for upvotes in a website that doesn't even allow downvotes anymore.
@@nichoudha classic reactive word salad pc response that uses a lot of words but says nothing. just admit you are an anti white racist, people would respect you more for being honest.
I’ve never once heard or met any member of this “modern audience”. In fact, I think most people are on board to be against most of this trash that gets released.
The few and very loud supporters don’t even buy or view these products.
We’re living in a strange backwards world and these companies would rather burn everything to the ground than to admit that they’re wrong.
Link to the Clip : reason why modern movie is bad
ruclips.net/video/mCfYi7634rU/видео.html
honestly I think the only ones that fit this modern audience are white women (the greatest of traitors) and soyboys.
They are more trying to create a new type of human via constant propaganda, rather than assuming the new (sheep like leftist) humanity is already the norm everywhere. Started with the commie takeover of universities as guys like Michael Rectenwald can explain to you. But these pop culture media critic RUclipsrs seldom get into stuff like that, even though it sets the whole context for their criticism of the industry.
Exactly. There are far more incels whining about this shit than "modern audiences" demanding it in film and TV. It's cynical pandering by out-of-touch rich idiots. Stop supporting it and it'll go away eventually. If we get an healthy and appropriate dose of representation out of it, it'll be worth it.
Years ago, I was called on to defend "Huck Finn" because Twain used a racial epithet throughout that was common among his characters. I wish I had been this eloquent and forceful as the CD.
Ironically, by updating the movie for modern audiences, they render their own version to be the opposite of timeless, since it will need to be updated for future audiences as well.
The Revolution always eats it's own children. Some already had it bad, thinking they would be on the right side of the "progressive" hammer forever. But not...
I'm going to love in 2024 when we get to look back and call all of this garbage "A product of it's time" non-ironically.
People have almost completely forgotten about the remakes of RoboCop and Total Recall, which starred white men so couldn't use the typical "you're racist" marketing. The people making RoboCop heard that they would have a shield against criticism if they made RoboCop black, but they misunderstood and made the RoboCop SUIT black instead of the actor! (Just kidding, but I wouldn't be surprised if that really happened.)
@@KasumiKenshirou I literally did forget about the RoboCop remake, and I'm not even sure I was aware of Total Recall. Why would you remake either of these when the originals are brilliant 80s-90s action flicks? They come from a magical place in the history of movie-making which no one could even begin to touch these days. Sadly we know the reasons... just dumb, out-of-touch Hollywood execs wanting more easy money.
@@majorpwner241 the Total Recall with Colin Farrell is actually not bad at all.
I will never forget that time a teacher in my Spanish class told me that there’s a reason why classics are called classics: they have transcendent themes that are relatable to all generations, so we can all relate to them and that’s why we keep on loving the old stuff and calling it “a classic”
A lot of people claimed that old Disney princesses are just weak damsels & thus sex1$t. But they forgot that the actual eye candy, empty of personality reward is the princes, they were just there to solve the girls problems & give them happily ever after. The 1st prince to have a personality is Eric(Little Mermaid). Because they're not the protag, it's the princess the story focused on
Exactly..it’s the princess who is the “star of the show” Snow White, Cinderella, Rapunzell, Ariel etc…
@@GIBBO4182 its almost like its in THE GODDAMNED TITLE!
The Sleeping Beauty prince was the first. She slept through most of the movie while he did all the fighting.
you npc
@@ruthsaunders9507 He fight, but has nothing upstair. All I remember about him is that he's pretty & a good singer. This the reason it's my least favorite classic Disney movie: the princess is asleep most of the movie while the prince is as bland as the others
I used to see at least two movies a month in the theater. Now I don't even have cable TV.
Same here. I only watch old movies. I threw away my TV over 10 years ago.
But colbert wants you to mindlessly watch him spout propaganda into your head!
What is, tee vee? Yeah, I totally get that.
Back in the 80's and 90's, I would do my week's shopping, and then go watch a movie in the nearby cinema, before going home to my digs. That was 'every' week - there was something either well worth or reasonably worth watching.
Last film I saw...The Darkest Hour.
And now, sadly, we are suffering the film industry's own Darkest Hour. My local cinema shut down years ago, and then turned into a bingo hall (ffs). And there's no way that it'll be reopened as a screen again if we keep getting this endless, talentless crap from Hollywood.
I am not in the least tempted to go and watch this new 'Snow White.' How the hell is the girl supposed to wake up from her poisoned sleep without love's true kiss?
Omg...
Same here! When I was a kid in the 70’s and a teenager in the ‘80s, I used to go to the movies almost every weekend during the spring and summer months. Now? Why bother?! What’s wrong with making a good movie, Hollywood? If I want political propaganda, I’d watch Newsmax or the Huffington Post.
Who wants to escape reality for a couple hours when you can be miserable all the time and even pay for a ticket
Not me. But then again, I guess I don't know what "real art" is.
Listen if im gonna be suffering from life Id wanna watch it in HD
Apparently we gotta buy the tickets, but not turn up, instead give them to a black family, for wakanda forever.. lol yea, sure, these people are insane.. clearly
As a brown person, the brown snow white is just straight stupid and anyone who says otherwise is just too stupid to realize they are bing used as a token.
Being* sorry was eating and texting lol
I believe you're one of the most important and insightful observers of modern culture and society today.
Narrator: he's not.
Male archetypes in cinema have not been just about strength and courage, they have been a mixture of vulnerability and inner strength. Think of Bogart in "Casablanca", Paul Newman in "The Hustler", Jon Voigt in "Midnight Cowboy", DeNiro in "Taxi Driver", all wounded men, but they all strive for redemption, their masculine inner core keeps them on the path of morality and ethics.
Modern audiences don't even know what those movies are
Exceptions don't make the rule, lmao.
@@sabsain2399 These are not rare exceptions. Look at any great films, the male lead character are all wounded people. Jimmy Stewart in "It's a Wonderful Life". Jack Lemmon in "The Apartment". Orson Welles in "Citizen Kane". Tom Cruise in "Eyes Wide Shut", "Rain Man", "Top Gun". Paul Newman in "Cool Hand Luke". Tom Hanks in "Road to Perdition", etc. etc. etc. The characters are wounded because we are all wounded. We watch movies because we want to see these wounded people go through an arc, transformation, as we do for ourselves and for those we love.
@@palerider2890 Not sure what you were even trying to say since "courage" already implies you were vulnerable at some point; similar is the case with strength. You're just talking about certain archetypes of male characters you enjoy among millions of old ass movies/films
@@bigrotary7023 They don't have to
From "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves" to "Snow Brown and the Seven Differently Abled Little People"
Ahahahahahaha
Soil Brown
This ain't Snow White it's Soil Brown
"Roasted Snow White"
Disney be like:
Snow Brown
Cinder not vanilla
Sleeping Black Beauty
Black Little Mermaid
Brown and the Beast
Tangled In Dark Curls
Brave to not be white
This is a scientific level of clinical psychoanalysis wrapped up in a hilarious package. Brilliant work and much respect, Drinker. 👍
@Flash bang Stop liking your own comments.
@@praetorian3902 Thats a bot that just links the same video for another channel to get views
@@Conaroto Yeah I was getting suspicious that it wasn't completely human. Maybe it's a cyborg that decided to become a youtuber.
Historically, Bond did change once. On Her Majesty's Secret Service. He got married, and Blofeld killed his new wife. The movie basically ended with Bond crying over her body. It was remarkably sad in tone compared to the norm. The next movie opened with Bond going on an unmitigated killing spree of bloodthirsty revenge.
It reminded me a lot of The Godfather, when Michael's first wife in Sicaly got carbombed. A really sobering moment.
If I recall, it's one of the reasons Bond stopped letting himself get attached to people, at least for a while.
I seem to recall this was also the movie where an actor played Bond only for one movie, and then didn't keep the role because they thought he was unusually dramatic as Bond.
But I doubt anyone making these new movies have watched enough of the old stuff or read the books to know any of this.
Sorry to bother, but did you read the books yourself? Cause if you did, you would be rather more humble and accurate when criticizing creators of modern Bond movies - as they finally did get 007 right as Fleming wanted him to be: empty-hearted, cold-minded killing machine in HM’s hands, a shipwreck of a person, the one fills his hollowness and grief with substances, but yet not a plain drunk. (And he was never actually attached to anyone, not just for some time). It was Connery and Moore - especially Moore - who got 007 wrong; easy-going, elegant, ever smiling English comedian is almost the exact opposite of Fleming’s original character. The hardest irony there is that it were Connery’s 007 who was adopted to ‘modern audience’ of that time - and the script differed much from the original books (sometimes almost completely, like in ‘you only live twice’). But you seem to have nothing against the ‘modern audience’, it seems, unless you’re not in it.
Also the real reason that Lazenby left is because of his disdain with film crew and because his agent convinced him that 007 will become obsolete and forgotten quite soon. What they both did not consider that there are millions who will consume the same story over and over again - including the sorry author of this video. He himself is the part of ‘modern audience’, albeit of the 80s, and just has a problem with ‘modern audiences’ of these days. The most ironic of all is that he regards the art the very same way SJWs and Hollywood producers do - as a mere product - and when he’s not targeted, he plays the crybaby the same way SJWs do (which is, coincidentally, the content of this video)
The only thing he got right is there are no ‘modern audiences’ - there are different stories without any audience targeted beforehand (so you either listen or stop whining about the story not being appropriate for you) And James Bond’s story is one of them and was in fact drastically different from Connery era movies. And Barbara Broccoli’s response is right if you look at it from another perspective: there is a whole load of action movie franchises like Bourne and more a more are spawn, how do you compete with them on their own field? You don’t. You have to come up with another story and another character. Luckily, there is a reliable source.
No, that's fine. I seem to recall having read two of the books but it's been decades.
Since it's been two months since I replied to this video (I really don't want to watch it again), my recollection was simply that everyone seems to have their own impression of "Bond", and it's apparently quite easy to consume enough of it to either forget or omit the rest and still treat yourself as an authority. This doesn't actually bother me that much with a case like this, since there is so much material out there that I think it's understandable, but it felt like an important detail from earlier movies was being ignored.
I'll take your word that the author never let him get attached to someone, as it doesn't change that it occurs in the movie.
I was an actor in my 20s in the early to mid 2010s when all this crap was starting. I took a solo-show workshop where you write and perform a scene from a solo performance. Storytelling was a big part of the class. Despite this, I was the only one who came up with a fictional story and character. Everyone else either used it as a therapy session to whine about their problems or to push a certain message.
Over time, I began to realize that very few people in the industry actually wanted to just make quality stories. Little by little, everything had a political message and something you wanted audiences to think after they watched your show/film/etc.
the only requirement i have when selecting a movie or show to watch is if it has a good story and good characters. its truly a drag when i literally spend half a standard films run time looking for a film to watch.
And we must be the ones to fight back by making quality content.
Well that's bleak for the future ...
Like when me and my dad walked out of a showing of Black Panther. I turned to him and said “that was shit” That’s what I was thinking and everyone within earshot agreed with me.
@@ralphharrison6622 My favorite author once said that movie/tv show/book/comic needs to have balance of story, characters and world building. But great characters are definitely strongest of those and any work with great characters but decent story and decent world building will be much more likeable than great stories or world building with decent characters. Problem is that modern movies just love to ruin characters and what they stand for
When these studios abandon their fanbases for modern audiences, their fanbases abandons them.
Hollywood: "Best we can do is ruin your childhood memories"
I’d say that catering to “fan bases” is just as bad as catering to “modern audiences”. The Godfather did not cater to any fan base. Neither did Citizen Kane, Pulp Fiction, Shawshank Redemtion, or A Fistful of Dollars. They aspired to make a great movie, and only cater to the vision of the movie creator.
Like Star Wars. It’s a shame some fans left before Andor aired since it’s good
@@fr0ck360 I'm glad Mark Hamill stood up against it in interviews and said he doesn't believe the new movies are canon with how they ruined Luke. Harrison Ford just bounced and wanted nothing to do with it haha.
@@souldreamer9056 for original films you are correct. But for films set in already established worlds, like lotr, you do have to cater to the previous audience to some extent because they are the ones who are going to watch the new film or show.
The myth of modern audiences can be debunked very easily. If it were true that fans want a film that better reflects the world they live in, why are classic films still so popular despite the generation who made them being dead or close to it. It's because a good peice of art is universal. It can be viewed or heard by anyone at any time and invoke something different in everyone. That to me is what defines the good art from the bad.
Damn, why do you wanna watch the reality, when you live by it day by day... Movie is dream industry, where you can escape a while from your life...
Same deal with music, why do people still listen the Elvis and the Beatles but no one will be listening to lilturkeytwizzler or whatever in 50 years
@@alexrobertson557 Or Mozart and Beethoven instead of Jay Z and Beyonce
@@alexrobertson557 *"why do people still listen the Elvis and the Beatles but no one will be listening to lilturkeytwizzler or whatever in 50 years"*
Back when Elvis and the Beatles were contemporary, old guys were saying, "No one will be listening to them in 50 years". Make of that what you will.
@@lusoverse8710 No they really weren't at all. they actually said "wait, they're white? we can sell this"
I really like that "modern audience" label. They proudly advertise a movie, show or game with it and you know that you don't need to even bother. A real time and money saver!
It's sad that the entertainment industry became so treacherous. I just got to remember to stay indie to create entertainment myself.
"Modern audiences" really means "my friends and co-workers in Hollywood."
And “SJW Twitter users”
THAT'S ANTISEMITIC
"The world we live in today" means "downtown LA".
No, it means global audiences who watch films. Something you little conspiracy nuts have trouble wrapping your heads around.
Why must everything film-wise only come from Hollywood?
Isn't the world supposed to be filled with independent film companies ?
Do we have to ask Hollywood's permission if we want to make a film?
Everything about them is cheap and tacky with American values
I'm English and I have my own values as an English citizen and an individual
The idea of a character named "Snow White" being Columbian is absolutely hilarious!
Maybe she's called Snow White because she's a drug kingpin. That's the joke right?
Lmao
*snort*
Ikr if someone did that to Black Panther then they would be flippin their tables
I could deal with that, I can very often not tell Hispanics and white people apart, the problem really is that they changed the story
I showed my aunt some of these movies and the "modernization" of them and the first thing she said is that, they are really making a lot of unnecessary changes when it was good in the first place.
What a boring observation. It would have been better if she had said "why did everybody become so whiny and so weak?"
If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!
@Chad 007 report these bots
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it amirite
@@sidvyas8549 the obvious problem here is that it's not broken to you, to me and to other normal people, but to all those lunatics everything is broken, everything is wrong, everything is "problematic", and that's why they try to fix anything
One of the "boss characters" in my book is a chick who underestimates the protagonist. She ends up bringing her own doom. She should have just gotten help and the protagonist would have failed since he barely makes it out alive.
I wish for more movies to be timeless rather than modern
Pop culture is disposable by design, it's why nothing it produces is of lasting value.
In the case of Bond, I find it odd that none seem to remember that he has had emotional depth even in the old movies. He was married. Yeah she died immediately, but it still happened. That moment was even referenced in a later film to show why he did not get close to anyone else. Bond just knew how to keep himself together so that he could go home in one piece.
Completely agreed.
The original Ian flemming books even spell that out. The man is punished for intimacy on a regular basis.
Right! I mean, that's why I loved Daltons two films as Bond. Connery's films touched on how he would get close to people but then they die, but License To Kill even had him lose a coworker he was close to.
@@heathercontois4501 And the best thing about Dalton’s Bond? He cared about his allies. In the Living Daylights when Saunders dies and Bond finds a taunting balloon that says "Smiert Spionam", he pops it with the most venomous look of rage on his face. Same in Licence to Kill. When Felix is maimed by a shark, Bond goes all out to infiltrate Sanchez’s inner circle and destroy it from within. It’s an absolute crying shame Dalton never got the chance to do anymore.
@@LexingtonDeville984 it would have been awesome of he had.
As someone who spent has spent many years living in a black majority third world country and then also in an ethnically Chinese majority Asian country I can personally say that all this stuff about needing to update movies for "modern audiences" and making them more "diverse" and "inclusive" is absolute bunk. Even what we might consider the most foreign audiences have never had any problem relating to characters and themes in Western movies and TV shows, and that is why those movies have been HUGELY POPULAR all over the world for decades both through normal channels and via black market when not officially distributed in the country in question. There is no need to "update" the casting choices or the storylines and themes to make them appeal to a broader market, and anyone capable of objective analysis can see that these "updates" are actually having the opposite effect and making these movies less appealing to the market.
Looking forward to see what these new woke movies will do over there. Like, fine , Wakanda is in Africa so there is no racial diversity there, but what do Africans think about that? And how well do they watch RoP, do the numbers go over LotR yet?
Are we allowed to say "black market" these days? ;)
@@dddux haha
Modern Translations:
Diversity = Racism
Equality = Sexism
Idk about you, but if I watched movies from other cultures like Three Kingdoms, I would actually be really creeped out if they cast anyone who wasn't Asian... That same logic should also apply to western movies or any other culture if they only cast people of their majority race, even if it's just a preference.
This "diversity" agenda is just wrong on so many levels. First of all, it usually makes no sense in the context, and even if it does it's incredibly disgusting that some people "can't identify" with characters that don't look like them... Normal people have no issues relating to characters that they like regardless of their race, gender, species, or even if they're an inanimate object...
Most people aren't trying to "identify themself" in movies. That's fricken weird, the movie isn't supposed to be about you! You really have to be extremely self absorbed if you can't enjoy a movie or relate to characters unless they meet minimum requirements on a checklist of similarities to yourself...
Modern script writers and woke weirdos are basically like TikTok girls who feel like they need to put their stupid face on every single little thing they post... Narcissism at it's finest.
@@aguywhocanfly1335 that's a good take
I'm so thankful for your videos. They are so frustratingly, depressingly accurate.
Woke = bad, right? SO deep.
@@jenniek8391Would you like to talk about why people don't like woke policies? I'd be happy to.
@@jenniek8391Didn't think so.
If the "Modern Audience" is such a big demographic than why did Lightyear, Thor: Love and Thunder, and Strange World bomb at the box office? You know, the movies that made sure to tick off the boxes "Modern Audiences wanted."
On the other hand, films like Top Gun Maverick, Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero, and Minions were focused on delivering movies their audiences wanted without feeling the need to tick off boxes to make "modern audiences" happy and all these films were successful at the box office.
The "modern audience" is an illusion and until these idiots wake up they will keep running things into the ground and lose money.
Minions was soooo good. Better than it had any right to be.
Glad you mentioned Sonic the Hedgehog 2. That film really cared about it's video game roots and genuinely wanted both the fans and the general audience to have fun. It had a (mostly) good story, a cast of likable characters, bombastic action scenes, well-done performances and Jim Carrey. Hell, it's become the highest grossing video game movie of all time and the best video game movie ever made!
(Sadly many people or "modern audiences" don't seem to bother)
Wait until Avatar 2 doesnt do as well as expected.
@@ceasarsaran8573 Well, then - "As reported by Deadline, James Cameron’s film, which has been 13 years in the making, has so far grossed $435 million worldwide in its opening three days, marginally less than its $500 million target. In the US, the film has taken $134 million so far, just short of its $150-$175 million projections."
Oh dear... Wonder how this compares to the original Avatar?
STH 2 has the most ”modern audience” lover relationship ever. Wtf you on lol?
I encountered our good friend the Critical Drinker when I was driving across the country from North Carolina clear to Wyoming. I binged almost every single one of his videos, and my god man do I have to say you've given me hope that everyone isnt simply a brainwashed "yes daddy" of the machine as we see all too often. Its good to know theres people out there equally as tired of this $h!7 as I am, and can notice it in the media we are presented today. Keep doing what you do my man, cause we need it out here.
shit.
you can say it on youtube, they haven't gone that far yet.
It is a strange world where you have to go to a film critic to get deep philosophy, a realistic world view and truth... Good Job Critical!
ruclips.net/video/RpYXQ71cbsw/видео.html yep you nailed it
People born after 2000 don't have enough life experience to be trusted with remaking classic movies, tv shows, etc. They are green, they are rookies, they lack perspective and shouldn't be trusted with anything made before 2000.