Melee and the Pursuit for Perfection
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Melee is a game that can never be perfected. And that’s a good thing.
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What? You don't practice your shield drops standing in the road in the middle of the winter?
Pfft, casual...
I also need to work on my shield drops.
Congrats on 1 million total views, dog
Hey @turndownforwalt, I'd love to see a video of this nature exploring the intricate play styles of top players. And more specifically, how when opposite play styles/natures intersect on the top stage of Melee! It's a specific request, but I could see so clearly you making a topic like this work eloquently in a video! Obvious suggestion would be Mang0 vs Hbox but do your thing!!! All love, huge fan, keep up the fantastic work!!
How did you even get that *nice shot?
@Riolupai i gotchu
There's not a single melee video on youtube where Silentwolf gets off easy is there #rip
He made a sacrifice for the greater good
@@turndownforwalt Nah, that one is on content-creators like you. It's sad that such a great player and person, with ton's of remarkable footage is always reduced to this one game only.
If you look him up on youtube you find plenty of sets of him playing top players in top8 or GF of tournaments. Random example: ruclips.net/video/wJcyV5RpCJw/видео.html
@@EsperSpirit People feature this set because it's one of the greatest Axe moments, not because they want to dunk on Silentwolf. Axe constantly 4 stocks random people on stream, this moment is so iconic because he managed to do it against a good player like Silentwolf in tournament, even the greatest sets have to have a loser after all, doesn't mean it's shameful.
Boomer: “It’s not a sport, it’s a game!”
So what’s basketball, is it not a game? What about a sport like ping pong? It’s mostly technique. Are they not athletes?
I'd like them to elaborate on what makes golf a sport and Dota 2 a game
Video games are not sports and that's ok
"but u mooooove"
they will soon realize they are the old out of touch hacks anyways haha
K D what other things does it require would you say?
@K D omfg u really think that u can win arguments against those type of people???
I almost had an anyeurysm listening to boomers talk about cYbEr AtHlEtEs and StAR TrEk CoNs, but another excellent video walt!
Pretty much "we don't understand it, so it must be bad"
I never get their "it's a game not a sport" thing. Traditional sports ARE games. It's when it becomes a competition that makes it a sport
Wonder what they'd say about chess. Games are sports too. Tennis is a game. It's also a sport. That was such a dumb conversation haha.
Same man same, I could feel my blood pressure rise as I hear yet another bunch of closed minded people shitting on something they either don't understand or wished they understand. AND YET NOW THEY'RE ALL HERE BECASUE THEY REALIZE MONEY IS TO BE MADE FROM THIS! man I hate boomers 🤣
@@jaysean9589 well I would say Chess isn't a sport because it doesn't have an aspect of physicality like Melee and traditional sports do. The same thing with poker. If someone who is paralysed can compete at a high level (theoretically possible in Chess and Poker) it probably isn't a sport.
Man just look at the word sport. What a weird looking word
i hear the "things of beauty melee as a spectator sport" in this video a lot
That video is incredible! It was definitely a huge inspiration!
The day that Melee is a solved game is the seventh sign of the apocalypse.
Melee is the ultimate dynamic experience; every outcome and situation is unique and being able to take in that data and improve your chances of winning is so exhilarating.
What the fuck there you are again
Oh wait, its that guy I saw in the comments of the Adam Neely video earlier today
What a nerd haha
It really is so dynamic. I think it's hard to not enjoy the game, even if you don't play!
I agree
Is it more dynamic than ultimate? Or in par?
All your videos are fire. Gonna show this to my esports denying friend.
Glad you enjoyed! Let me know what your friend thinks!
@@kirbydk3896 Actually, with the exception of Smash Ultimate and Melee (and also a bit of Pokémon), I dont really watch esports or any sport whatsoever.
However, with Smash I becomes as hyped as the most fanatic Football/ Baseball/ whatever other sport player as a spectator (as well as a very excited gamer with eager to compete when it comes to _playing_ Smash as well).
There's so much Melee to be played, I can't wait to see what 2020 brings to the table
It's only just getting started!
Rip to 2020 melee
@@kennedybagnol5519 It'll come back... it always comes back....
It did come back!
Uhhh..... Go back in time, we fucked up
Part of the iceberg you've scratched at reminded me an overlong quote below from Infinite Jest. It's actually about tennis, in place of Melee, though I think there are many unrealized parallels between the two. I hope you find this quote meaningful and illuminating.
"The true opponent, the enfolding boundary, is the player himself. Always and only the self out there, on court, to be met, fought, brought to the table to hammer out terms. The competing boy on the net’s other side: he is not the foe: he is more the partner in the dance. He is the what is the word excuse or occasion for meeting the self. As you are his occasion. Tennis’s beauty’s infinite roots are self-competitive. You compete with your own limits to transcend the self in imagination and execution. Disappear inside the game: break through limits: transcend: improve: win. Which is why tennis is an essentially tragic enterprise… You seek to vanquish and transcend the limited self whose limits make the game possible in the first place. It is tragic and sad and chaotic and lovely."
Didn't think David Foster Wallace would show up in melee video comments
Excellent quote! I think that fits the context of this video perfectly!
I love what you said about recognizing players by their styles. I can see an up-throw rest and bair train from one player and a marth fairing at ledge from the other and tell its hbox vs m2k without needing to see the player cams or nametag.
"games aren't sports"
....
football is a game
iTs A gAmE
Walt - Melee is a game that can never be perfected!
TAS bot - Hold my code
"wait but actually don't hold it I need it to keep woOO-" *blue screen*
@@RaFaReAcH LOL
we can gimp the tasbot
So it's not perfect.
Can people stop calling TASes tasbots?
Tas bot is the name of the ROB toy that holds a raspberry pie at gdq and tas is the sequence of button presses that are made to perfectly beat a game or show something off. Even the tas blocks at gdq are called TAS BLOCKs not TAS BOT BLOCKs
I just love how he brought up the argument that any Melee fan can tell you who is playing even without playercams and such, it is the perfect (hehe) example to show how expressive this game can be which for many people is a big reason why they are so passionate about it. Good shit waltz, each video you make gets me more hyped about Melee!
It's super cool to me! Thanks for the comment!
The messi thing is completely wrong.
He suffered a disease that prevented him to grow, but he was insanely good at football. Barcelona paid for his treatment and trained him after.
Whoops! I know he had a growth hormone deficiency, but I read a short article that said he was cut from a junior team when he was 11. My bad!
Soccer*
@@2BsWraith Soccer Pepega
@@2BsWraith no
@@UntarLaMantecaYes
"it can be easy to bias your performance relative to the person youre competing against"
shows a ginger livestream
LOLLLLLLL
why is it we both meet on every single melee video on the planet
@@toontownveteran we watch too much melee my guy
I wanna be your friend too! Hi! See you in a future melee video. I miss my guy vextos I used to run into like you guys do. Hope he's all good these days.
Ginger is mad good at analysis tho
You know I had to do it to em
Melee is beautiful.
Melee is siiiiiccckkk
Melee is an unbelievably deep game that gives it a very complex culture, and I've used your videos to help me articulate feelings to myself that I knew I had but couldn't explain. You have done an incredible job, on this video and all of the rest, giving new players like me a beginnings to being part of a community that was otherwise too intimidating to dive into. Thank you!
In a summer camp for the arts, my teacher told me, “you strive for perfection so you can achieve excellence.” And those words ring true with melee and me to this day
Well said!
This came up while I was practicing Melee techskill
I love this channel. Great content about a game I will always love.
Well? Did you work on your shield drops?
@@turndownforwalt I honestly was. It was like this video was made for me. haha
"I get no kick from champagne this alcohol doesnt thrill me at all"
for the Kanye new title
"for now tho, i just want to work on my damn shielddrops" thats the most relatable thing ive heard all day
That final juxtaposition of early Axe vs. Axe winning a major. Teared up a little, man
Sports have rules. Games have laws.
The key difference between those two and arguably why esports competition is more 'fair'.
Most traditional sports are better for health though.
Sounds like somebody watched the Innuendo Studios video!
@@turndownforwalt i forgot which video it was but yes, it's not my quote
The grid racing music 👌🏼👌🏼
You videos are pretty cool. Been here for 4 years and I still like what I see
WOW that's a crazy long time! Thanks for supporting for as long as you have!
Dude, your script is written so well, you are a hell of a writer
Thank you so much!
You're work is "simply charming" Walt. Love what you've done on the channel man. As I have said before, every video seems to pull me in with its subtle depth/uniqueness. Keep it up!
Thank you so much!
Walt getting 15k views and 10k subscribers is the best thing I've seen in a while. So proud of you and in awe of the hustle
Thank you so much homie! I'm glad to have all of you here for the ride!
Amazing stuff man, and an incredibly eloquent way to say how I think many of us feel about the game! I often like to find ways that top players' personalities shine through in their gameplay (whether that be how reserved, aggressive, methodical, or how they react in high pressure situations), and I feel like Melee allows for that more than any other competitive game that I'm familiar with. And after all, self expression is what we should strive for most when playing the game, and in living our lives.
As for how your engineering job/YT career is gonna pan out, I can only say that I consider the quality of your videos to be like the quality of play from a top player in Melee, and I think you express yourself greatly through that. Like you really put in an insane amount of work every time out, and it's honestly crazy how you haven't grown the channel even faster than you have. But like Zain, and all the other competitors who've come up with a similar brand of grind, I know you'll reach far beyond 100K someday if that's what you want. And either way, I'm wishing you the best my guy.
Congrats on 10K :)
Thanks so much Rick, it's great to hear from you! I'm glad you enjoy the content :)
1:48 "It's a game!" And football, basketball, baseball, soccer, etc. are what, exactly? I can't believe how myopic these people were.
1:53 How do they think watching esports is fundamentally different from watching sports?
Thank you for a beautiful video. I love it :)
9:53 pictures u can hear
THAT AINT FALCO
@@turndownforwalt WOMBO COMBO
MateoTheWeeb _ Melee is so synesthesic, right?
But I still prefer hearing a picture of Up throw rest into Fox
HAPPY FEET
Theres so much Melee to explore...
Bro this is such a fire video. It's got non esports believers actually considering watching meler
That's the hope! Thanks for the support!
Man poor Silent Wolf, he just can't escape that match xD
Don't undersell yourself man. You make some of the best videos on the site. You're criminally underrated, and I'm happy to whenever I see your videos in my feed :)
I really appreciate that, thank you so much!
Wow. This was an amazing viewpoint that I haven't seen explored in essays in this way on RUclips.
This was a joy to watch and will love to see more
I had a lot of fun with this one! I'd love to make more about other topics in the future!
Another interesting one for people getting cut at high school level and then going on to being the best. Brian O'Driscoll, probably one of the best centers in Rugby ever, was cut from both junior and senior teams in "high school" in Ireland for being too small.
Nobody can do what you do better than you Walt. You bring your own take and style that many of us love. Sure somebody else can do a good job, but it wouldn't be like your art work 💜 the community appreciates you :)
That really means a lot, thank you so much!
I fuckin lost it at “shooting a basket ball” 😂😂
you seriously only have 16k subs? i fr thought you had so much more telling by your quality. youre on another level of insight and you deserve so much more attention
We’re growing slowly but surely, and comments like these are super humbling! Thank you so much!
That was really incredible Walt, most people just argue why esports are sports with the same couple reasons I.E. Payment, practice, mental ability... but this is the first video I've seen where style and mental perseverance were key features as well. I say it pretty much every video you post but thank you so much for the content you produce, its truly wonderful
Thanks Colton! I think this video hit a bunch of good topics and I'd love to do something similar in the future. Appreciate the support!
Bro you’re the best. I love how you’re able to find the parallels with esports and conventional sports.
Thank you!
This video is beautiful. Keep it up!
So many great Melee vids recently
I love your videos! Thank you so much! As someone who is deployed, being able to see tournament highlights and melee content is a godsend!
Thank you for your service!
As a Melee player who recently started running, this video speaks to me
I'm glad! Keep on going!
I've never subscribed to someone as a Patreon. But if I ever do you're my first choice. You have such an eloquent way of elaborating these histories that I can attach to and value as somebody whose been playing melee competitive since just before the doc was released. Here's to hoping your passion maintains
Well you definitely left an impression on me as a first time viewer! I hope this sub helps you out friend. I can relate to being at a cross roads too, with wanting to quit Smash or continue. You made me think of another reason I do enjoy it: for the thrill of improvement and perfection in how I play, so thank you for that! Though I'm still conflicted, you helped in one way or another.
Thank you so much for the comment, that's great to hear and we're glad to have you on board! Hope to hear more from you soon!
@@turndownforwalt Oh I'll definitely be around on the channel friend! 😊
"there's so much more melee to play" :)
accidentally stumbled upon your content today and I'm very pleased keep on the grind !
I'm very glad you did! Thanks for watching!
I recently had a falco ditto on netplay, where we played exactly like I one another. It was freaky. I've never seen anything like it. It's not like I'm unique or anything, but melee is just so expressive that it's bizarre to see similar players. I told my wife about it and she understood the concept so well that she suggested that it may have been an AI mimicking my style LOL. While that's a bit out there, I love how it seems more likely than actually finding two melee players who play the same way.
What a great video
Knowing that perfection is impossible is kinda motivating, since like my goal was always being perfect, and I'd often get upset with minor mistakes
I'm glad you enjoyed! Keep on pushing!
This is some really high quality content, if you keep putting stuff out like this I’m sure you’ll be rewarded for you effort. I’m sure once melee picks back up again and the new documentary comes out this channel will explode.
What is up with that doc already!
I think the response this channel has gotten is already incredible, but I'm so excited to see where we go from here! Thanks for the comment!
10:20 ... Axe grew TF up, JFC
Everything you make is so amazing and I really don't know how you don't have 100k. But for now, congrats on 10k and I look forward to all the future milestones I know you'll hit.
I think we'll get there eventually, but for now I'm super happy to see the support this channel has already received! Thank you!
I loved this video mate. Please keep it up. I love your style!
Thank you!
Im glad Hbox got atleast one mention. He is such a legend.
He's amazing!
For me jt really just comes down to showing them a melee set, asking them if they can do that with money on the line, crowd, etc. No? Okay then. The studying situations and plays, matchups, to put all that at the front of your focus is any sports task.
Well done, mate. Beautiful piece. Definitely spoke to me. My passion is writing, and what you said about wanting to leave an impact and the drive to do better resonated.
I'm glad! Keep on pushing dude!
Nice video as always you should be one of the top melee content creators continue the great work man im confident we will get to 100k and even more
I'm looking forward to hitting all new milestones with you guys! Thank you!
youre a treasure to the community walt
That really means a lot, thank you!
Great stuff. Was captivating man. Dis channel finna pop off this year
Thank you! I'm looking forward to seeing where this channel goes in the year!
incredible video. could not have said it any better myself.
I'm glad you enjoyed!
You definitely have impacted me through your videos . Thank you!
P.S Melee is sick
That is super inspiring to hear! Thank you!
it's not about perfection, it's about staying cool
I’m one of those new viewers that you have crossed paths with and this video has me rightly enthralled. The comments are showing lots of promise for your other videos too which is always a good sign. Subbed!
Here’s to the first step to 100k subs, and to all the melee to be played in 2020. Cheers bro
That's wonderful to hear, we're very happy to have you on board! Thanks for the support and welcome to the channel!
*smashes red button*
*clicked bell icon->All*
Absolutely incredible video, my guy. Followed the twitch stream as well in case I ever catch you live. Keep up the amazing work!
Legend! Thank you so much and hope to hear more from you!
Dude, your vids are Mang0 lvl good!
Thanks so much!
What about HBox? He's still my favorite Melee player.
Despite what modt people say, I find the matches with Hungrybox to be the most interesting and exciting ones to watch, especially the ones where "ClutchBox" comes in.
thats so rude wtf is wrong with you
As a fellow runner, running a mile in the 4:30s is super impressive. Well done bro! Love the vids btw.
Thanks! I'm definitely not in 4:30 mile shape anymore (not even close), but it's still a cool accomplishment to have reached that time. Thanks for the support!
What beautiful content. Congrats on 10k subscribers man, hope you make top 8 some day
I don't think there's a shot in the world I ever make a Top 8 LMAO but thank you for the support!
@@turndownforwalt maybe a local? Who knows.... Lol
i was not expecting a kanye west quote on gaming of all things.
It fit surprisingly well!
I swear to god the market for this kind of video is always just saturated enough with good examples like this one to discourage me from making one of my own.
Don't let that discourage you from making something you're interested in!
@@turndownforwalt It's pretty difficult to find something that adds to the conversation in a meaningful way when videos like Innuendo Studios' "Melee as a spectator sport" (which I assume you have seen, highly recommended otherwise) exist though.
Walt you're too good man! Love all the content and your charisma is unmatched in this community! Can't wait til the next one drops
Thank you so much!
I love your work Walt. You have an interesting an unique voice for this community.
Keep em comin!!!!
Thank you Alex, glad you enjoyed!
Your doc kicked my ass on Slippi today I cant believe im sitting here watching your video right now
GGs mate!
This video is absolutely amazing. Keep up the great content man!
Thank you!
Melee will be a solved game when Skynet takes over.
first time coming across your channel, good shit bro. here's to 100k!
Happy to have you on board! Thanks for the support!
Amazing video man. Thank you.
These videos are so great and informative. This channel needs more subs for the amount of quality content you release. Also Axes glow up is real LOL
Thank you so much!
Great video. I've thought this about melee for a while. it's why i love the game so much. thanks for bringing this up.
I'm glad you enjoyed! Thanks for the comment!
Walt your videos are what convinced me that e-sports definitely are sports. This is another amazing video and I can't wait to see what you do next! Congrats on 10k!
Thank you Ben! I'm glad to have you here for the ride!
Stay down to Earth. That's your charm.
esport: a sport for the fine muscles
Beautiful video as usual Walt. Thanks for doing what you do for the community!
Thank YOU for being so supportive!
Its so absurd that your channel has so little subscribers when the quality and production of your videos are so good, keep doing you man!
I still appreciate the close community we've developed so far, and I think it'll only grow from here! Thank you though, and looking forward to hearing more from you soon!
Bruh your content is great. Thank you algorithm
Thank you!
This video was amazing. I'm going through a very similar path. I was a cross country runner but stopped. I want to try and become a computer engineer, video editor, and gamer all at the same time. And you achieving all of those things is inspiring and makes me think: if he can do it, I can too.
That really means a lot, thank you! Keep at all of it and you'll figure it out!
Turndownforwalt comes through AGAIN. Thanks dude 😚❤️
What is this, Core-A Gaming? Good stuff Walt.
Gerald is a LEGEND so it's super cool that you think this video is up to par with him! Thanks homie!
excellent video, like a condensed and refined smash doc
That's an incredible complement! Thank you!
I LOVE THESE THANH YOU SO MUCH
4:30 mile is insane
This sounds like an English project. I give it an A+
Thank u teacher
I almost had a sudden bowel movement watching this
KORN
KORN
This shit got me motivated to pursue my passions
Very glad to hear that!
You're one of my favorite Melee content creators.. for sure! Keep going man!
Appreciate the love!
What a fantastic video. I loved it
This video was great thank you