It's wild that Nvidia, a trillion dollar company and graphics leader is only now getting an official tuning software after relying on third party tools like Afterburner for decades.
Yeah they should have done this a long time ago but now that it's there people are still going to find a way to complain. Instead of being happy that it finally happened now the narrative is " I'm still mad because I wanted this 10 years ago". People will always find a way to complain.
@@catman0082 Pretty sure they're talking about ease of use and functionality of the app, not single graphics card oc. AMD's app is much easier to use (since it has both driver and control panel in one driver), whereas Nvidia had two separate (and kind of ancient) apps for it. In this case it's about finally having a full package in a single app, which AMD has had for years
but it works for what I need it to be and its not in the background phoning home and using resources for stuff I don't need. And yes I also don't have NVIDIA Experience installed
and? Its have all the features, doesnt lag, doesnt add all that AI shit and recording shit, and whats most important bug free, what u cant say about adrenaline
@@erisium6988 sure, but it still could have needed a reshine. Its buggy, its laggy, it could be better organized. But we wont see this, unless someone talks about it. So its valid to talk about it! :)
@@syzuna_ i feel like GeForce experience is pretty great but I don't use it myself, it's nice not having my non-techie friends asking me which settings to use all the time though.
i been using Nvidia app since Beta and i honestly didnt know there were performance difference until now, that would explain me getting lower fps than i should T-T
Unlock the voltage settings in the afterburner settings, slide it to 100% and itll give the core a little more voltage so you can push it a little farther
This gave me artifacts all over my screen after I did the automatic overclocking and gamed for an hour, taught I fried my gpu, I don't think it's worth it or they still have bugs to iron out, I'm on a 3070 and I won't recommend anyone use this unless you got $$ to replace your gpu at anytime.
It’s still in the beta so download it if u don’t mind a couple bugs down the line until they officially come out of beta still it’s good to download it so they can work out the bugs and features quicker
Excellent stuff Fabio (and Fabio's brother!). You guys are doing stellar work lately on the channel. I am usually an AMD man for my own PC, but for my kid's PC I got a deal on an RTX 2070, so I really appreciate the Nvidia stuff too
I was wondering if the discrepancy was caused by additional CPU usage from the Nvidia APP. But if that were the case, Hogwart's legacy would probably be among the most affected considering it's very heavy on CPUs. Seems like it might be GPU usage issue instead.
I don't know, I've used Nvidia and Intel my entire life, last time (before now) that I used "AMD" was when it was just a ATI Radeon 6x something something... many many many years ago, but after about 15-20 years of Nvidia and Intel, I decided last year to go with an AMD built and I've never had less issues with my PC. However, AMD Adrenalin is very messy and needs a huge clean-up (not comparing it to Nvidia, as that is a mess all in it's own league), but AMD Adrenalin could look a bit more modern and be cleaned up a bit, e.g. have the Streaming section where you stream/record from the software with overlays.. just removed, nobody uses it, 99.99999% of people will be using OBS. Also, their Instant Replay needs to make mic and game sound in 1 file, but still in two tracks, like Nvidia does it. It's kinda dumb having to have 1 file for the game with game sound and 1 file for jusus the microphone, when it could be integrated in the same file and have two different tracks in editing.
VRAM overclocking is tricky, you can overclock it up to a point and then 500Mhz more and get nothing out of it in specific scenarios. Some game that heavily uses VRAM might even go backwards in performance because VRAM that is heavily used will create more errors that need to be corrected. So "100% stable" does not mean much.
Afraid of buying a 40 series card this late to the generation because buying a 30 series card locked me out of AV1 and FrameGen. Dont know how long I am stuck with my 3060Ti.
I like how I still don’t get a notification, like I got in the old app, that a new drive is available. And I’m really looking forward to that as 4000 series really need some better drivers
Auto overclock has been available for a few years now, they called it “performance tuning” on the old GeForce app performance overlay settings (experimental features) This updated version looks much better though
@@AncientGameplaysMan! My PC stoped giving a picture when the scan reached 99% running the fans on max spedd(3070 strix)...So I rebooted the system and it worked all great, except the nvidia app said that there is no OC active. This means the scan didn't get completed...And I won't try it again for a few weeks until it gets patched.Note, my GPU has nice temps, no problem with thermal paste.
Still the software interface i like was the ams one which had everything that wanted . The overlay that shows everything including cpu usage and gpu power in games . The color adjustment option that can change adjustment for specific app. I like everything very vibrant so my gpu saturation is full. But in resolve i prefer default so i can calibrate color for my videos.its reqlly annoying to change color every time on nvcontrol panel when i use resolve.
How do you get so much OC on your memory?! Do you have a custom waterbuild? I have a Zotac 4080 oc edition and can only get +200 cc and around +350 memory clock. Even if I set all my voltage limits and everything to the highest it just hard crashes or freezes after that. Same as the 3080 I had before this card.
They should and I think its not enough of all the money from big corporation and captalist investors pouring in. Gamers made Nvdia and Nvdia should show gratitude by giving them the best and freebie softwares.
I've had a GTX 660 where MSI afterburner allowed me to go 1000MHz+ on Vram, I played the Witcher 3, everything stable until some days later (less than a week) and I got a blue screen while playing, I removed the OC, but the card just kept crashing and crashing, then at somepoint it wasn't even detected on startup. So I would never again trust the Vram OC on Afterburner
Okay? Is that really all you have to try and convince yourself amd is better? Oh I've had this for 10 years. Well now that nvidia has it looks like amd doesn't have that advantage anymore. Looks like the reasons to go amd are getting smaller and smaller, mainly only reason now is if you are a poor broke boy
whats the difference between this OC and the OC Scanner that MSI Aftrburner has?? I use the Gigabyte software that can do a OC Scanner too, and it will boost your clocks and lower your mV use.
"In a seismic shift in the tech landscape, Nvidia surpassed Apple on Wednesday to become the world's second most valuable company. The AI chipmaker's valuation breached the $3 trillion mark, fueled by an insatiable demand for its processors, which power the emerging field of artificial intelligence" - Buiness Today 17hr ago
"bare metal technology" Do they mean GPU passthrough for the VM? 😆| Anyways, Nvidia control panel updates are nice. But AMD is still way ahead, and just better in my opinion.
Hey, Fabio! I just discovered "Smart Access Memory" because of your channel, and as a broke Brazilian, I have a Xeon Kit and was wondering.. is there any way to enable SAM on old CPUs like Xeons?
Why every time I restart my laptop I have to re-activate the automatic tuning? it is always activated, but it is not overclocked when I use it the next day, I have to wait for it to do the check of my laptop every day and it is very annoying.
If I was Nvidia (and I'm not lol), I would have retained the same ancient old app _but_ update it from XP era to at least the new GeForce Experience-type UI. I am absolutely used to the old app's layout and functionality, been using it for ages. This is going to take some getting used to but I'm sure I'll manage.
When I use auto tuning all my games stutter and and my voltage and gpu usage bug out. I have to restore and restart to get them to work again. Am I doing something wrong?
I swear, this happened right after I switched from Nvidia to AMD. Not happening anytime soon though, my 6800 has enough vram to last for YEARS which is way better than what Nvidia currently gives
I was about to say wait when wwas this posted and how am i just now finding out then i realized when it was posted and was like oh yeah ive been out of twon for 2 weeks on vacation 😅 so im sooo out of the loop
That's too bad. I liked the nvidia control panel as it was with the old xp win32 apisi theme. It was lighter, minimal and understandable. Now it tried to imitate amd's visual big design. I think it consumes more system resources.
Never Overclocked before. currently Running a EVGA RTX 2060 Super XC Ultra Gaming Card. How would i go down the road of getting better performance out of it, without breaking it? Never used MSI. and ive been looking at the auto tuning. but if it does nothing idk. anychance anyone could you or anyone have some advice?
On my GTX 3060, when I click to auto overclock and check, the computer restarts about 45% of the check, only with the nvidia app open on computer, does anyone knows why?
Nvidia App auto oc feature favors the core tuning because the performance comes from there not from vram oc. You should known this. Just up the core more and lower or even not oc the VRAM in MSI AB and your scores will be better. Memory overclock is so pointless these days.
"Automatic Tuning was Interrupted" Did anyone else see that error message?
That's because in those 2 minutes i tried 2 times, and the first one was interruped because I was recording
@@AncientGameplays OK I get it. Was a failed attempt after the successful one. Sorry for the confusion.
😮😮
Here's the link for NVIDIA APP in case you want to use it
www.nvidia.com/en-eu/software/nvidia-app/
It's wild that Nvidia, a trillion dollar company and graphics leader is only now getting an official tuning software after relying on third party tools like Afterburner for decades.
exactly, and not even allowing you to change the codec in the app, AND requiring a login...
It's AI that got them beyond 3 trillion not gamers. They had no incentive.
@@mikelay5360 what's that got to do with what they said...
Even Intel ARC have this soft )))
Yeah they should have done this a long time ago but now that it's there people are still going to find a way to complain. Instead of being happy that it finally happened now the narrative is " I'm still mad because I wanted this 10 years ago". People will always find a way to complain.
Fabio, for the love of god!! What is that intro? 😂😂😂
I almost spit my Coffee on my laptop's display🎉🎉🎉
Good hahaha
Glad to see NVIDIA finally catching up with AMD in this aspect. Adrenaline is great and easy to use.
agreed
I mean 6000 series didn't have AV1 encoding.
@@AncientGameplaysdepends. My 5700xt dies if I try to undervolt it
@@catman0082 Pretty sure they're talking about ease of use and functionality of the app, not single graphics card oc. AMD's app is much easier to use (since it has both driver and control panel in one driver), whereas Nvidia had two separate (and kind of ancient) apps for it. In this case it's about finally having a full package in a single app, which AMD has had for years
🙌
Let's not ignore the fact that Nvidia left us with the Nvidia control panel for decades. That thing is ancient.
true
but it works for what I need it to be and its not in the background phoning home and using resources for stuff I don't need. And yes I also don't have NVIDIA Experience installed
and? Its have all the features, doesnt lag, doesnt add all that AI shit and recording shit, and whats most important bug free, what u cant say about adrenaline
@@erisium6988 sure, but it still could have needed a reshine. Its buggy, its laggy, it could be better organized.
But we wont see this, unless someone talks about it. So its valid to talk about it! :)
@@syzuna_ i feel like GeForce experience is pretty great but I don't use it myself, it's nice not having my non-techie friends asking me which settings to use all the time though.
i been using Nvidia app since Beta and i honestly didnt know there were performance difference until now, that would explain me getting lower fps than i should T-T
Yup, it seems to be better now
at first i thought it was when i undervolted my 4070, now im happy it wasnt the case!
Unlock the voltage settings in the afterburner settings, slide it to 100% and itll give the core a little more voltage so you can push it a little farther
Lol that intro had me😂😂😂😂😂
That first clip.😂
true hahaa
This gave me artifacts all over my screen after I did the automatic overclocking and gamed for an hour, taught I fried my gpu, I don't think it's worth it or they still have bugs to iron out, I'm on a 3070 and I won't recommend anyone use this unless you got $$ to replace your gpu at anytime.
Auto OC is still useless it seems
I ran mine just fine , 3070 too but im no expert at all ive now set it back to defaults as im in for longevity .
It’s still in the beta so download it if u don’t mind a couple bugs down the line until they officially come out of beta still it’s good to download it so they can work out the bugs and features quicker
Opening meme was hilarious 😂, cars went 69
Excellent stuff Fabio (and Fabio's brother!). You guys are doing stellar work lately on the channel. I am usually an AMD man for my own PC, but for my kid's PC I got a deal on an RTX 2070, so I really appreciate the Nvidia stuff too
I tey to keep people knowing about stuff
I was wondering if the discrepancy was caused by additional CPU usage from the Nvidia APP.
But if that were the case, Hogwart's legacy would probably be among the most affected considering it's very heavy on CPUs.
Seems like it might be GPU usage issue instead.
Was waiting for Performance comparison. TY
Thank you as well :D
I honestly still use the control panel. Im not some geek, so it has all I need: color, hertz, background and game FPS limiter
Yeah, but you'll jave everything you need here. Easy to use
@@AncientGameplays I shall try it out then, since I had an AMD gpu for a short while and their software so pretty good!
Thanks for the video!
9:43 but why does it say "automatically tuning was interrupted"?
Because i interrupted it for the second time, out of recording haha.
It reached 100%
I don't know, I've used Nvidia and Intel my entire life, last time (before now) that I used "AMD" was when it was just a ATI Radeon 6x something something... many many many years ago, but after about 15-20 years of Nvidia and Intel, I decided last year to go with an AMD built and I've never had less issues with my PC.
However, AMD Adrenalin is very messy and needs a huge clean-up (not comparing it to Nvidia, as that is a mess all in it's own league), but AMD Adrenalin could look a bit more modern and be cleaned up a bit, e.g. have the Streaming section where you stream/record from the software with overlays.. just removed, nobody uses it, 99.99999% of people will be using OBS.
Also, their Instant Replay needs to make mic and game sound in 1 file, but still in two tracks, like Nvidia does it. It's kinda dumb having to have 1 file for the game with game sound and 1 file for jusus the microphone, when it could be integrated in the same file and have two different tracks in editing.
Afterburner way more simple for me, and still give some extra tuning inside and works both for Nvidia and AMD GPU.
thanks for the performance impact test of the nvidia app installed while gaming
Did the automatic OC on the Nvidia App and the OC scanner on MSI afterburner got exactly the same results on a 3060 Ti
I’ll stick to AB for now ;)
Lol
Great video Fabio. May I ask what are your manual oberclock settings for the 4080 super?
I guess I neee to a video
@@AncientGameplaysI will wait for it, maybe it would be good to show how when you go crazy with settings some games will do ok, but some wiill crash
bare metal technology, the prequel to full metal alchemist
Full metal alchemist, such a great GPU xD
VRAM overclocking is tricky, you can overclock it up to a point and then 500Mhz more and get nothing out of it in specific scenarios. Some game that heavily uses VRAM might even go backwards in performance because VRAM that is heavily used will create more errors that need to be corrected. So "100% stable" does not mean much.
On the ergonomy side Nvidia has a lot to learn from AMD, took me quite long to undervolt my 4090, took me 30 sec on my 7900XTX.
NVIDIA’s GeForce Experience has featured automatic overclocking since June 2021, one of my primary decisions in an RTX purchase.
Interesting, didn't know that (my bad). Also, AMD has had that for ages
Afraid of buying a 40 series card this late to the generation because buying a 30 series card locked me out of AV1 and FrameGen. Dont know how long I am stuck with my 3060Ti.
At this point just wait the 50 series
@@biglittleboy9827 yeah right just buy 5070 it will be pretty good most probably same as 4080
I like how I still don’t get a notification, like I got in the old app, that a new drive is available. And I’m really looking forward to that as 4000 series really need some better drivers
welcome to 2020 geforce users 😎
Was just playing FH5 and I click the video and see that intro 😅.
Nice video. Personally I'll be waiting for the official release, but it's cool to see things are shaping up with the App.
Finally, it only took 20 years or so. 😂
*only* 20 years xD
Its been on geforcew for 4 gens. Is everyone on here from under a rock?
@@dingleberries360 learn how to spell before talking
GeForce experience is shity bloatware
hey man, Is it worth using this app now or should we wait for the official launch?
It is worth overall
Auto overclock has been available for a few years now, they called it “performance tuning” on the old GeForce app performance overlay settings (experimental features)
This updated version looks much better though
Thanks for letting me know
I just change from Nvidia GTX 4060ti to AMD 6950xt really happy with it
Glad to hear
Autooverclocking just overdrived my card into losing picture. But it worked after a reboot, and it's not OCd for now.
Hoe much did you get?
@@AncientGameplaysMan! My PC stoped giving a picture when the scan reached 99% running the fans on max spedd(3070 strix)...So I rebooted the system and it worked all great, except the nvidia app said that there is no OC active. This means the scan didn't get completed...And I won't try it again for a few weeks until it gets patched.Note, my GPU has nice temps, no problem with thermal paste.
Still the software interface i like was the ams one which had everything that wanted . The overlay that shows everything including cpu usage and gpu power in games . The color adjustment option that can change adjustment for specific app. I like everything very vibrant so my gpu saturation is full. But in resolve i prefer default so i can calibrate color for my videos.its reqlly annoying to change color every time on nvcontrol panel when i use resolve.
How do you get so much OC on your memory?! Do you have a custom waterbuild? I have a Zotac 4080 oc edition and can only get +200 cc and around +350 memory clock. Even if I set all my voltage limits and everything to the highest it just hard crashes or freezes after that. Same as the 3080 I had before this card.
All air, there's not a single GPU i have that doesn't do at least +1000MHz
They should and I think its not enough of all the money from big corporation and captalist investors pouring in.
Gamers made Nvdia and Nvdia should show gratitude by giving them the best and freebie softwares.
Afterburner can undervolt, I doubt nvidia will let you
Does anyone else just raw dog it and use drivers only?
Same
Not me
I've had a GTX 660 where MSI afterburner allowed me to go 1000MHz+ on Vram, I played the Witcher 3, everything stable until some days later (less than a week) and I got a blue screen while playing, I removed the OC, but the card just kept crashing and crashing, then at somepoint it wasn't even detected on startup. So I would never again trust the Vram OC on Afterburner
it wasn't stable then haha
Always check your temps after oc
@@Shahzad12357 Remind me again, which 660 had Vram temps?
Yeah, but where are the multi monitor support for RTX HDR? bruh...
Ask nvidia
anyone else having a problem where the recording settings don't show up on the new app, but they did in the old one?
Do you still have to agree to give them your data in order to install the new drivers?
You mean login? No needed
@@AncientGameplays I know they got rid of the login, but they still required that the user accepted giving Nvidia user data to install the app.
Ancient, can you make a video about how you setup your pc after building it (bios, drivers, windows) your own way basically ❤
RTX HDR very nice feature
does overclocking works with gtx 1080? or just for rtx
abraço
Don't know, don't have any gtx 1000
Use MSI Afterburner
it works with GTX 16 and more or RTX 20 and more, i have a 1050 and it shows this message
Okay, so the only new thing the NVIDIA APP can do is record AV1 120FPS, right? GeForce Experience can and could do all the other things too...
They're updating the app to feature it all
Will you make a video for Lossless Scaling?
I will try
That moment, when AMD had these features (for the most part) for 10 years.
True
Okay? Is that really all you have to try and convince yourself amd is better? Oh I've had this for 10 years. Well now that nvidia has it looks like amd doesn't have that advantage anymore. Looks like the reasons to go amd are getting smaller and smaller, mainly only reason now is if you are a poor broke boy
Recording doesn’t work on my 3050 laptop. I click on record and it just does nothing.
Clean install
whats the difference between this OC and the OC Scanner that MSI Aftrburner has??
I use the Gigabyte software that can do a OC Scanner too, and it will boost your clocks and lower your mV use.
Can you test if performance in some games still degrades?
Watch that part of the video
"In a seismic shift in the tech landscape, Nvidia surpassed Apple on Wednesday to become the world's second most valuable company. The AI chipmaker's valuation breached the $3 trillion mark, fueled by an insatiable demand for its processors, which power the emerging field of artificial intelligence" - Buiness Today 17hr ago
What graphics card would you recommend for the I5 8400 processor?
Hello! Is there a way to share my clips directly on RUclips? I used to do that on Shadowplay.
what about the performance hit of the nvidia app is still the same ?
I do talk about that. Watch the timestamps
@@AncientGameplays thank you man
"bare metal technology" Do they mean GPU passthrough for the VM? 😆|
Anyways, Nvidia control panel updates are nice. But AMD is still way ahead, and just better in my opinion.
I don't know what they meant, but it definitely plays very well for "game streaming", I was impressed
@@AncientGameplays Hm. Cool. Might check it out if I ever go on the go and I cant access my beefy machine 😁
AMD has the 120 fps recording and the auto clocking long ago ... why is it a big deal now
Hey, Fabio! I just discovered "Smart Access Memory" because of your channel, and as a broke Brazilian, I have a Xeon Kit and was wondering.. is there any way to enable SAM on old CPUs like Xeons?
There might be a need for BIOS modding in case your system is really old
This is the 2nd time I see people not using their own fan curve on gpu's in afterburner?
No need most times
Well its summer so we underclock😅
hahahaha
Undervolt and overclock!
Nah, we just blast the AC
I think when enable rtx hdr performance still degrades.
Ofc...
I wonder if I am supposed to install the Nvidia app. I have this issue on the latest drivers where the performance overlay gets frozen.
i dont have that system tab and i have it updated
No wonder why it crashed 2 days ago and the pc completely stopped working
Why every time I restart my laptop I have to re-activate the automatic tuning? it is always activated, but it is not overclocked when I use it the next day, I have to wait for it to do the check of my laptop every day and it is very annoying.
Mines is +165Mhz core and +200Mhz Vram (Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 GAMING OC 24G) I have it on Power Maximum on 90% before I start the Auto Tuning
I just tried recording a game at 120fps with AV1 using the Nvidia App and the sound is out of sync. So I guess i'm not gonna us it!
Great video
So, wich is better nvidia app or geforce exeperience?
Depends, app is better to me, but still lacks features as it is BETA
OG control panel still have more options, i hope they leave that as well then goes out of beta, + nvidia telemetry 🤢
Lets wait and see
overclockin function not available for me yet
I don't get it either yet 😢
Automatic Tuning just did +0 on both for me....
Lol
IS IT JUST ME for not having the performance limit option?
🙃
You mean fps lock?
@@AncientGameplays yep
now we need h266 encoding
You have av1
If I was Nvidia (and I'm not lol), I would have retained the same ancient old app _but_ update it from XP era to at least the new GeForce Experience-type UI. I am absolutely used to the old app's layout and functionality, been using it for ages. This is going to take some getting used to but I'm sure I'll manage.
That's what they're basically doing
Hello admin, any plans to do undervolt guide for Nvidia app?
maybe in a close future
When I use auto tuning all my games stutter and and my voltage and gpu usage bug out. I have to restore and restart to get them to work again. Am I doing something wrong?
Same I deleted that sht. Lol
I swear, this happened right after I switched from Nvidia to AMD. Not happening anytime soon though, my 6800 has enough vram to last for YEARS which is way better than what Nvidia currently gives
I tried using the automatic overclocking on my system using nvidia app. But I keep on getting an error message. My current system has NVidia 4090
AMD jesus turned into NVIDIA JESUS, LETS GOO!!!!
Nah xD
I was about to say wait when wwas this posted and how am i just now finding out then i realized when it was posted and was like oh yeah ive been out of twon for 2 weeks on vacation 😅 so im sooo out of the loop
I see haha
the nvidia app would be useless for laptops for best performance on a nvidia laptop you under volt and tune as your always power and heat limited
can you broadcast to youtube/ twitch/facebook? I cant see to find the option. Using the Geforce experience i can
That's too bad. I liked the nvidia control panel as it was with the old xp win32 apisi theme. It was lighter, minimal and understandable. Now it tried to imitate amd's visual big design. I think it consumes more system resources.
Never Overclocked before. currently Running a EVGA RTX 2060 Super XC Ultra Gaming Card. How would i go down the road of getting better performance out of it, without breaking it? Never used MSI. and ive been looking at the auto tuning. but if it does nothing idk. anychance anyone could you or anyone have some advice?
Does include bloatware like GeForce experience?
Not for now at least
I need streaming back!!!
It will come I guess, when the app is fully done
+200 VRAM tuning, yeah what a complete joke...
Does anyone know when the nvidia app is gonna finish its beta? It fells like it's been forever
do you know how do i get on msi afterburn the perfect amount for my gpu ? i have 4070 ?
On my GTX 3060, when I click to auto overclock and check, the computer restarts about 45% of the check, only with the nvidia app open on computer, does anyone knows why?
amd already had this for years
Yup
Дождались! Nvidia наконец то догнала AMD в плане драйверов и панели управления. Радуйтесь зеленые человечки😊
Nvidia App auto oc feature favors the core tuning because the performance comes from there not from vram oc. You should known this.
Just up the core more and lower or even not oc the VRAM in MSI AB and your scores will be better.
Memory overclock is so pointless these days.
If you think VRAM OC makes no difference you're wrong, very wrong lol
@@AncientGameplays It does only in benchmarks,in games is zero difference.
personally on my 4090 increasing the VRAM clock doesn't give me additional fps
and going above 215 on the clock decreases fps only
any ideas why?
because you have a monster GPU, and you might be CPU bottlenecked
@@AncientGameplays oh actually i have the 7800x3d
@@maroosagamingstill cpu bottleneck
@@maroosagaming and yes ik that 7800x3d is the best gaming chip on the market
@@Shahzad12357 i put it at 5.1ghz and the performance actually worsened lol
Can i enable automatic tubing on my razer blade 3080ti with cpu and gpu set on max on razer synapse?