Crota threw a raging house party in Oryx's throne world when Oryx was away on a business trip. The vex showed up, trashed the place and wouldn't leave. Oryx came home to this mess and threw them all back into the time portal they came from. Crota thought he was a big man and said he could have handled it himself, so Oryx threw him in the time portal to think about what he'd done and prove it.
@@Michael-ee4uzits not ridiculous to want your dream combination of exotics. Its understandable to want them and understandable why they wouldnt implement them. Im happy with an opening line up and hopefully they add more in the future
Oryx coming to our system proved that he did care for him. Savathun even said that it went against the his own logic to avenge his son and he still went ahead with it. Also spirit and necrotic and claw is an *eh* combo at best since necrotic doesn’t need powered melees to work.
You're not looking deep enough. Use the lightning surge aspect and arcane needle melee with it, and all of a sudden you're getting 4 charges of lightning surge that deal poison and jolt AoE.
if it works then cool but honestly just get vesper instead to cover grenades. that 1 more melee isnt that big of a deal as lets say having faster regen of healing nade will be
For the people that might be unaware, now that they gave the DLCs for free until TFS, you can go unlock and keep Vexcalibur and Wicked Implement right now if you didn't had the seasons tied to those exotics. You can launch Avalon for someone else right away without them doing the nodes in the EDZ, but for Wicked Implement they are gonna need to do a Salvage first to unlock Deep Dives, the problem is that finding a full lobby for Salvage might take a while nowadays, so hopefully my comment gets more people playing both Salvages and Deep Dives. You can also claim a shit-ton of materials and stuff from the premium rows of the past seasons. Cheese Forever made a video going into the details.
People are really sleeping on how potent the triple melee consecration and spirit of contact could be. Jolt AND ignition on a single melee, WITH radiant activating from the fragment? Ridiculous.
Fun fact, had bungie not reversed the Timegate we would STILL be waiting for weapons to be released. So glad they went back on this because almost nobody has a shiny godroll 😭
Actually, it would have been easier to get a shiny godroll of the earlier ones if Bungie had kept it. Because there would be less types of guns dropping, so you would have had more chances on the ones that were available.
@@LordSalissidk how valid this is, because I'm not getting any shiny rolls from weapons I'm not targeting 💀 It would be significantly worse because the time we have to farm them is cut down significantly...
Everyone deserves Necrotic. Question, though. Is Spirit of Necrotic getting some kind of nerf or are we getting a base Necrotic buff. They said any exotic with one trait that has a spirit will get a minor buff. So either Necrotic gets buffed or spirit of Necrotic won't synergize with weapons of sorrow because that would be considered the secondary trait.
@@andreymavian3400 Necrotic poison spreads when an enemy poisoned dies period, so it can spread near infinitely and applies to Weapons of Sorrow, very fun stuff
So the raid will be us probably completing whatever the final shape is. There better be something in game for solo players to see outside of a stop motion cutscene if that's the case
They already confirmed that the final campaign mission unlocks after the raid is complete. The raid is our first main confrontation with the Witness and the campaign mission is where everything is going to end. Satisfies the raider by giving us the main confrontation in the raid, and the playerbase as a whole by giving everybody a chance to kill the Witness in the campaign
Bro if you’re gonna learn any raid and find a squad for said raid, it should be the final shape raid. I’m a solo player and I will be raiding when I’m ready. why cut yourself out of the content
Cross’s videos are literally the only thing on RUclips I don’t 1.5x speed for because he already talks quick enough and they’re always jammed full of info. This is appreciated. Most sh online is so slow moving. This combined with the positivity and levity be brings are the reason he’s top of D2 content creators list. Thanks dude for keeping it fun and informative.
As a Warlock main who plays PvP a lot, the selection of perks is tragic. So many of them tied to using rift, in some cases even empowering rift specifically while Hunters can use their perks on every dodge. Big disappointment from PvP standpoint. For PvE some combos are pretty solid.
As a warlock main, we have been getting shafted since void 3.0 (no self proc devour), solar 3.0 (phoenix dive on a class ability, no healing charge grenades, bottom tree dawnblade died), arc 3.0 (no ensamble perk built in, no arc web chain) this saddens me but i was expecting this not gonna lie edit: forgot to mention that they removed almost all non ranged melees except one arc one from warlock
@@JaschromeI would say that Warlocks didn't really get weaker, but the other classes got way stronger at the expense of Warlock's class identity due to them sharing their unique traits with the other 2 like Devour, Jolt, Healing grenade.
@@andreymavian3400 yea...it's funny how well of radiance is the only reason why warlocks are the "best healers" according to bungie when titans and hunters can heal as much if not more often using some buildcrafting than solar warlocks in neutral game, same with void where devour is just one orb of power away on other classes, and the ionic traces and faster movement along with jolt (arc web on top tree arc on stormcaller) is just given to others, all we got was invisibility on finishers (useless in pvp) and sliding over ammo bricks refills the weapon (from middle tree arc titan and now literally useless in pvp) ignitions from bottom tree dawnblade is given to all too (hunters and titans again doing it better because of caliban's and consecration)
Aw dang. Im a little dissapointed. I was hoping we could get skullfort and thunderbrace combo for titan so i can infinitely throw lightning cannon punches. But the potential combo of assassin cowl and gyrfalcon seems like it could be nice
Was hoping for synthos and star eaters in separate columns to bandaid arc Titan but looks like I'll just be synthos and inmost light or severance on strand
Those campains suck if I was new and played that I would quit on the spot shadow keeps is literally crafting a set of armor the whole campaign and that’s it
Just speed run the campaigns with them and help them understand crafting and builds. They do a better job explaining now that before but the new player experience is still really bad
They took my dreams of Severance Enclosure+Assassin's Cowl or Felwinter Helm, and crushed them. That said, I'll probably still be looking for Assassin/Scars, Hoarfrost/Scars, Horn, or Armamentarium, and maybe a Severance/Contact.
Assassin/Severance+Scars is one combo I immediately landed on myself. Thinking, Consecration+Strand Melee+Knockout, using Thundercrash with a Voltshot weapon, and the fragment that gives melee energy when getting rapid kills with Light damage.
@@Fir7shadow Lacking Banner of War, specing into safety and sustain is probably gonna be a good move. Scars is gonna be super versatile since you can match your weapons to your super. I think Assassin is gonna be the better combination here in that regard. The invisibility proc will let you reposition pretty easily. Severance seems to have lost out on its chain explosions, so not quite as much popcorn crowd control on enemies, which is a bit sad.
@@raekwonchambers2297 Necrotic consecrations would have been wild, double dots to anything that manages to survive the slam just sounds like good dumb fun.
Yeah, which now it makes sense why they are dropping the raid so early. They knew more people would cry over time gating than an early raid. They know D2 players are feins for mid content 😭😭😭
As a Voidlock who just wishes I could use the strand melee + Necrotic Grips combo I'm pretty excited. I do wish the right side of the class item was a little better. Spirit of the Claw/Swarm/Harmony/Verity will all be pretty bad unless they get some kind of buff. Melee charge unneeded when you have 3 already/threadlings suck/gives negligible super energy/the bonus nade damage was always the least useful part. But spirit of Starfire will be nice
i think they showed off titan thruster with the suspend barricade aspect and it still worked, so hopefully they change this for warlock too. aint no way im not running thruster or phoenix dive on both these classes
For Warlocks, the two best PvE combos seem to be the one they mentioned in the article, apotheosis + star eater & filaments + starfire. I would advise using the former of the two with needle storm or nova bomb as spirit of apotheosis states it buffs ability regen on super END, not on cast like the stand alone version does. I think this combo will be especially potent if you cast your super while transcendent (as seen in gameplay footage) because this should allow you to spam quite a few of the new combo grenades you get in transcendence. As for filaments + starfire, I really think this could be a seriously potent combo when used with the "feed the void" aspect & the "bleak watcher" aspect. Drop empowering rift to activate devour, gets kills in rift to gain grenade energy & extend devour, deploy multiple turrets, profit.
@@pooPbutwhole Absolutely. Now I've had time to theorycraft a bit, I also think spirit of the assassin + spirit of synthoceps + arcane needle + the lightning surge aspect will also slap pretty hard. Use one needle charge to grab a kill to go invis, sprint, slide, activate a buffed lightning surge, go invis again, etc. You can also combo this with facet of dawn to go radiant of melee hits & facet of bravery to activate unraveling rounds for strand weapons on melee kills.
I don't think you'll want to use filaments with feed the void. That alone already makes it very easy to gain devour, so it's a bit of a waste of an exotic perk. Using Osmiomancy instead might be better to gain additional grenade energy from grenade hits (the way this is phrases, it could very well work with bleak watcher itself)
@@kreia187 I can see your point but I think the improved devour with FTV is preferable for my proposed combo. Extra nade energy & extra health. Spirit of osmiomancy honestly looks weak without the extra nade charge. If I was using coldsnaps on prismatic I would probably just use the existing osmiomancy exotic. One interaction I'm curious about is Contraverse Hold. Prismatic warlock can use vortex nades & the Bleak Watcher aspect, so will charging the vortex nade to activate the turret count as a "charged grenade" for the purposes of Contraverse's exotic perk ? If it does then that could be totally busted. If hits from the turret activate the perk then you could get multiple (five by my count) activations per turret.
Hold up, chef, may I suggest instead of claw replace it with spirit of synthos. Think about it. You already have three charges. Why not just have extra melee damage instead. No one come in the kitchen The chef locks are cooking!!
@@MrMars-sb3yq Because the idea of using a 4th Charge isn't meant for damage but to increase add-clearing potential. The more melee charges you have the more chances you'll get to infect enemies with poison.
FINAL SHAPE NEEDS WAY MORE VAULT SPACE!! There are 64 different exotic class item combinations per class. Add those to the existing 41 exotics per class (that you probably have multiple stat rolls for), and exotic armor alone will need at least 315 spaces for any collector. If you include the 140 craftable weapons (that you probably don't want to dismantle and re-craft), it only leaves us a little over 200 spaces for random rolled items.
Still waiting on Frost Armor news, it was supposed to drop this for ever season by now, and the concept was mentioned in the prismatic twab for fragments. I know they’ve been tossing everything under the sun in front of the player base to prevent us from leaving lately and every twab was about the final shape info, but what happened to this season being a stasis season? I imagine it could be any Twab now, but at this point it just means that it’s going to be released with the final shape, and the “will be released later this season” was nothing. Am I hyperfixating on a buff for stasis while we got all this other cool stuff coming? Yeah, but stasis never got the limelight we were told this season.
this exactly, stasis is my most used subclass and its kinda sad that its not getting the love is deserves, and even when it was its turn to be “the” subclass of the season, it still got overshadowed by everything
Prismatic hype aside im also worried for stasis too especially when bleak watcher and renewal grasps are on the new class item. If stasis gets nothing worth using in final shape, prismatic is just gonna take everything good about the classes and put the final nail in the coffin
At the very least, there is convincing evidence in the Warlock prismatic showcase of stasis shards bring intrinsic like tangles. The Warlock killed a hunter after freezing them and then a stasis shard spawned off their death. Since shards were not part of the aspect line ups for any of the classes, I'm speculating that stasis shards will work similarly to tangles, especially since the warlocks super was stasis and many things about prismatic interactions are dictated by super.
I feel your pain brother, stasis is so fucking cool and this season was initially hyped up to have it be a highlight in the artifact and then again with frost armor and fragments and whatever else they were gonna do but it seems like it’s been pushed back to final shape with no new word on it. Which is disappointing
One of my current favourite solo dps builds currently is Apotheosis Veil with Well and fusion nades and snap melee, plus dragon’s breath. It’s great. Looking at the exotic class item combos, I can see Spirit of Apotheosis and Spirit of Star eater. Here’s the idea, two to be specific. 1. New solar super with (hopefully) all the charged melees and nades being buffed by star eaters, then the super ends and you have another window of time to throw melees and nades due to Apotheosis. Hopefully it’ll be good, at the very least it will be fun. 2. Needlestorm super, plus whatever highest damage melee and nade is. Needlestorm is already a dps king with Apotheosis and being buffed by Stareaters, even if Bungie might tone down the damage boost for balance reasons, it’ll still be nuts. I also curious whether you can proc Ascendance before triggering your super, then get your Giga nades being refreshed constantly by Apotheosis. Just a few thoughts.
2:18 I think we may have been overestimating the importance of these class items in making Prismatic Subclass powerful. Prismatic subclasses can still benefit fully from many tradition exotics in addition to the ton of new ability combination and synergy. Essentially for the Prismatic related super… if there is was a main exotic people would run with it… it would only be improved on the prismatic subclass because you getting the tradition super in addition to all the prismatic combination and synergy. Don’t forget these spirit of “exotic” class items aren’t giving the full strength of many of the exotics…usually it’s only a portion. Spirit of Synthoceps for example doesn’t buff super energy. Meaning while you gain some extra exotic armor effect… both exotics you have are likely nerfed from their full power when using the normal exotic. Unfortunately they aren’t giving full exotic perks for each exotic on the class items. So instead of 1+1=2 it’s more like 0.5+0.5=1. Yes there will be new combinations and synergies made possible… in addition to giving other class exotic perks (star eater for example) … but they traditional exotics at full effectiveness could make just as strong of a difference in the strength of a particular Prismatic build. At least that’s the way I’m seeing it.
Only thing I'm a little bummed about with the class items is no Gyrfalcon on other classes. I really appreciate the focus. It seems like there's potential for wild combinations, while being balanced/not being overwhelming
@@andreymavian3400 with respect, this is not true, specifically with regards to invis. Volatile and Jolt, sure. But with what we know so far of Prismatic there are no ways for classes other than Hunter to become invis beyond what currently exists (i.e. heartshadow and rat king)
Hunters got ignitions on melee kills and Titan got jolt on melee hits. These 2 effects function differently, but are literally as potent if not stronger in some cases. Before you say I'm wrong, go and test a difference in dmg between these 3 effects in PvE. In the end of the day it will be a difference of which color of rainbow you like: orange, green or blue. A bunch of people really seem to simp green, lol
The spirit of Ursa furiosa perk(Ursa roughly meaning bear in case you didn't know) seems like it can grant a hefty amount of super energy depending on the damage you eat. Could come in useful.
Eternal Warrior and Star Eater on Titans. Build up the Star Eaters from Orbs, Launch as a Dude Missile Titan, nail the target, then as you move away, use a Blowout Rocket Launcher with Explosive Light to benefit from both Eternal Warrior and Explosive Light for Massive Damage
Titans class item got shafted so hard imo. I legitimately don't think ill bother running it over a normal exotic. I wanted something like the hunter perk that gives volatile or necrotic grips from warlock
Yeah not starting out strong when one of the interesting combos is just two grenades and baby version of hoil. One was basically just a cheaper version of the other and Spirit Hoil will probably be even more underwhelming than Hoil feels rn.
Sure maybe not as many good options, but the ones that stand out seem REALLY good (severance + contact, severance + synthos, and assassin + synthos because why not lol). i feel its more a quality over quantity thing for us. i dont see who is gonna be using spirit of eternal warrior, horn, alpha lupi, or hoarfrost. but i also see where yall are coming from, especially in the left column, definitely a bit disappointing on that side. but hey, at least well be able to use the main part of precious scars without being an eyesore lol.
@@TyeJak588They did mention some exotics will be buffed. Maybe hoil will be one of them, which will in turn buff the spirit of hoil. We can only hope!
The first exotic class item roll I'll be chasing is a combo of Spirit of Apotheosis + Spirit of the Stareater for my DPS strand warlock. I already use the build as is to compete with hunters on a dps phase using my(specially crafted for this build) Apex Predator with Demo+Bait(pair that with thread of generation + ascent for an effect similar to old Starfire), but now my build will be even better with my Needlestorm super doing extra damage for free.
IMMEDIATELY I am farming a class exotic item with spirit of severance and spirit of synthoceps. I have an add clearing machine build in mind that I think will be *chef's kiss*
Think of it this spirit of in most and spirit of contact, You can get three consecrations as well and then have a pulse made. They'll just be feeding back into your consecrations.
@@Veloros1047 Don't get me wrong. I still think Titans got screwed the most out of prismatic like most of the aspects they gave Titans or the shittiest ones of the subclasses. But it's still going to be fun to have something new and a new enemy type.
It's for the best. As much as I would love it, people would just be asking for hunters as often as they do warlocks and we'd get pigeonholed into the same "must use this" role lol
@@Zevox144 You really don't need assassin though since you have stylish to get invis. Add bonus, stylish invis grants your next melee weakness debuffs and also increases it damage by, if I recall correctly, 150%. The weakening affect is perfect to help CB loop stylish.
Prismatic warlock I’m not exactly sure how I feel about prismatic warlock if it’s gonna be better than the current go toos other than a few builds. But there are a few that I am excited for in this main one I came up with I think it’s going to be pretty solid. And I think it’s surpasses its mono class version of itself. Exotic class item-Necrotic+Star eaters Nova bomb/Needlstorm(not sure how the super performs without aspect that increases threading damage) Class ability-phenix dive (or heal rift) Melee-Arcane needle Grenade-Freezing singularity(or vortex) Aspect-Feed the void-Devour -Weavers call(not sure about threadings without the fragment that boost their damage).(or Helleon depending if it’s good or not warlock aspects for this are lame) Fragments Facet of Balance Rapidly defeating targets with Light damage grants melee energy. Rapidly defeating targets with Dark damage grants grenade energy. Facet of Dawn (starting) Powered melee hits against targets make you Radiant. Powered melee final blows make both you and nearby allies Radiant. Facet of Grace Damaging targets with Kinetic weapons grants you bonus Transcendence energy. Defeating targets with your Super grants you and nearby allies bonus Transcendence energy. Facet of Justice While Transcendent, your ability final blows explode. -Weapons- kinetic -favorite necrotic spreading primary. Energy- whatever special ends up having champion rounds. Heavy-Whatever heavy has most beneficial artifact mods. Analysis- this essentially should be the classic necrotic grip plus weapons of sorrow build on steroids. Your supers will be hitting a lot harder with the new exotic class item. Plus you’ll have devour. While you don’t get the suspend this should be a lot more potent in terms of damage. You run the strand melee so you can spread the necrotic damage most easily. The new grenade sounds like it’ll be good but vortex is always reliable. Other than getting devour the other aspects are pretty meaningless so pick whichever one’s most fun for you. And lastly the fragments I feel like are the least flexible in this build other than the weapons coming up essentially are going to be using your primary most of the time which is a kinetic weapon so it’ll feed into this new transcendence system. And the weapons other than your weapon of sorrow weapon that you choose really don’t really matter. And finally, the main gameplay loop is clearing ads generating orbs and spreading necrotic damage charging your supers and throwing off nuclear needle, storms, and nova bombs. Overall, I believe this will be better than the mono, strand necrotic build currently. Especially with the numerous nerfs to suspend, Nerfs of woven male and the Nerfs of thread of generation that have hunted that build over the past year.
This seems like it’ll have pretty solid up time with the new transcendence system. It all depends how poison works with transcendence if it counts as kinetic damage if it’s its own thing.
Me finding out spirit of coyote and spirit of wormhusk are in the same column makes me want to cry because as soon as I figured out how the class items worked I wanted one with those together
Free campaigns post TFS is such a huge win. Even if you don’t get the exotics, you still get the experience and stasis. Next step is just making all the content free
I disagree with them making the content free. It’s a business they can’t just make things free and expect to give us nice things. Nice things come at a cost.
I also disagree with making it all free, same reason as a above. I bought the content, doesn't make sense for people who didn't buy it to get everything. Have fun with stasis and whatever but if you really love the game, buy the content.
As a Titan main, I don't think I have been less excited about new exotics before. Both this and prismatic will suck until they expand the abilities of prismatic
Everything is. They intensively mislead everyone in the reveal stream. They knew if they showed off how limited this stuff was they wouldn't have generated as much hype
@@FlashesSoccer011 They didn't really misslead anybody, they never said we could get unlimited access to whatever we wanted to do with the class items/prismatic. People just saw it and immediately let their theories take over
@@Dougiebfresh12100 They 100% mislead people. You Bungie white knights are clowns. They never once said that prismatic would be limited to on or two choices per subclass. They purposely left out that information while talking about how this new class would allow for unparalleled freedom to mix and match. If they had said "we have ore determined what you are allowed to use and it's only the least used abilities" then no one would have been excited. They also made the combo exotic class items seems way more open and free. Now there are specific columns to which perks are locked? You are a delusional moron if you think it wasn't a calculated decision to only present the good news and not the bad during their stream.
@@petervalvo1186 They said that we would have freedom to mix and match all sub classes for prismatic. They deliberately didn't say "we have actually pre determined what you can and can't use, and its only the most under used abilities" They said their goal was to literally break the game and balance. If they had given us the information about how limited it is, they wouldn't have generated nearly as much hype. It was a calculated PR decision. You'd have to be a moron to not see that.
Hold up. So the different class hybrid exotics are named after the 3 factions that the Precursors belonged to? Hunters - Essentialism, Titans - Stoicism, Warlocks - Solipsism. Interesting. I wonder if this ties to the internal conflict of the Witness in the Raid story. Depending on which faction wins out in it's collective mind.
I just wanna say this was a dream in the making. The fact that Bungie actually made double exotics into a classic item is about the greatest thing in destiny 2 pve. I fkin love you Bungie
They should make a game mode where we can use all exotics for all slots across weapons and armor. Maybe a content mode activity with us being a lower level but offset it with all exotics combo. It’ll be wild!
Hunters: Spirit of Calibans and Synthoceps Combination Blow Grapple Melee Heavy Handed mod -Strand Super -Woven mail on orb pick up fragment -Buried bloodline for devour -Threaded Spector for infinite clones while dodge punching - Winters Shroud to slow while dodging -Each dodge punch kill creates an ignition Combine this with the other fragments as well and you have a fun melee loop with some survivability.
I’m gonna use silence and squall with spirit of galanor and spirit of star eaters so I can get my super energy back faster and do bonus damage when I use it because it doesn’t say it has to be a solar super to use spirit of galanor so it’ll work with any super within the prismatic subclass gonna be great using stasis still 😂.
Hear me out....... Titan Exotic with spirit of assassin and spirit of contact, paired with strand melee (3 charges) and consecration! 3 melee charges, which is 3 consecrations, but..... Every melee then chains lightning that jolts enemies around you, plus when it kills you turn invisible!
Aight, based on the stuff we have confirmed here's what could be a totally broken Titan build: Super - Blade Fury Melee - Frenzied Blade Nade - Suppressor Grenade (I have a reason, trust) Aspects - Knockout & Consecration Exotic Class item - Spirit of Assassin + Spirit of Contact Fragments - Facet of Balance (rapidly defeating enemies with light dmg grants melee energy, dark dmg grants grenade) Facet of Dawn (powered melee hits grants radiance) Facet of Protection (being surrounded increases DR) Facet of Purpose (orbs grant buff based on super dmg type, in this case Woven Mail) Facet of Ruin (increase AOE & dmg of shatters, increase AOE of ignitions) Facet of Dominance (void grenades weaken, arc grenades jolt) So frenzied blade gives us three charges of consecration, we've all seen that in the gameplay & it's just too good not to use. Spirit of assassin gives us invis on consecration kills & knockout gives us health regen + adds arc dmg to next consecration. Spirit of contact adds jolt to the consecration for even more potency. In addition, facet of balance is going to give us melee energy back for every enemy killed with consecration, facet of dawn will make us radiant with any melee hits, facet of protection will keep us safe while punching mf'ers & with the use of a heavy handed mod for orb gen, facet of purpose will further increase survivability. I included 6 fragments as Bungo said most prismatic aspects have 3 energy slots but if for some reason consecration & knockout do not then the last two fragments listed above are totally optional. When you start factoring in stuff like impact induction & momentum transfer mods, even going full send & rocking out the Monte Carlo, this build has the potential to be one of the most busted things we've ever seen.
I'm already thinking about some hunter combinations, like for pvp the spirit of the dragon with spirit of the wormhusk and the exotic armor sixth coyote seems a good combination (since you will get two dodges that gave you heal and reload all of yours weapons). And for pve i got a idea of solar damage super like golden gun with Celestial Nighthawk and the spirit of galanor to get the super back real quick and the spirit of star eater just to do more damage.
What I haven't seen confirmed is if these class items count as your exotic armor or if it'll be like the d1 exotic class item where you cld another armor piece as well.
You just know there’s going to be a few combinations that’s going to unleash some kind of unstoppable god build. The best part, you will be the only person in the world with that build until someone else gets the same roll.
Theoretically could you use spirit of osmiomancy and spirit of starfire to get old starfire back ? Because the osmiomancy states “your grenades recharge quicker on hit. The seeker spawned from cold snap grenades travel further” the period leads me to believe that it just means any grenade. So maybe old starfire is back ?????
Syntho with Assassin, HOIL or Severance is gonna be hot, especially with triple consecration. If I can’t get one of those, HOIL with armamentarium or Abyant with Horn are gonna be my next picks.
I want the renewal perk and the perk where you get woven mail when using a grenade. Im gonna use duskfield to get damage resist with renewal and woven mail from using it. Im gonna use buried bloodline so i can proc devour for grenade regen for each kill and health regen
Grapple grenade,combination blow, spirit of the liar, spirit of synthos, stylish executioner (for invis off ignition kills and weaken when meleeing out of invis) and either winters shroud or threaded specter. Use navigator w catalyst for infinite grapple melee and I already know what fragments to use but I’m not gonna yap that much. Hunters will have great melee builds
I wish that spirit of necrotic would have been universal as bungle promised the other classes would have access to it this would have been a great time for it.
While I am disappointed that there aren’t some combinations available *cough* wormgods synthos *cough*, I understand and I hope they expand and add more in the future even if they’re not the super god like combos. Will still be fun to get the random rolls and make builds around what you get
The biggest takeaway is that class ability exotics will become pretty useless with these exotics. For example, it was already annoying to see so many Hunter dodge related exotics that would work well together in conjunction but didn’t stand strong enough alone to warrant the slot. This’ll let me actually use some good combos for rifts on Warlock without it feeling like a waste
Makes sense to not put all exotics into the class item right away, as that could be an RNG nightmare but I was hoping to see more of the lesser used ability exotics being used. Hopefully they will add more down the road!
@@hadvar.the.viking ahh okay that’s cool then. Just wasn’t sure if it was one of those times where bungie would change it so it only benefits other people in your rift instead of
Holy crap. It actually didn't occur to me that you could combine exotics from different classes. I'm over here thinking of two Hunter exotics that'll pair together well when I could be looking at exotics from all the classes
It will be interesting to see with Spirit of Galanor and Spirit of Star Eater what the damage potential and frequency of the Silence and Squall super might be. Throwing more of them while doing extra damage sounds like a nice buff to that super.
I know there are some good combos there for warlocks, but I was kind of hoping they would have a little more combination consideration for playing a support build. I would have highly welcomed Lunafaction or Assembler in the second column to pair with Stag in the first.
Already said it on Dattos video. The exotic class items need to be able to just take transmogg cause there is no way i would ever wear the cape or the titan mark
Crota threw a raging house party in Oryx's throne world when Oryx was away on a business trip. The vex showed up, trashed the place and wouldn't leave. Oryx came home to this mess and threw them all back into the time portal they came from. Crota thought he was a big man and said he could have handled it himself, so Oryx threw him in the time portal to think about what he'd done and prove it.
As an avid lore main. I can confirm this is true
Explain Raids like they're 80s teen movies
Did he prove it or was he lost in time forever
And Oryx uttered the most badass line in the history of Destiny, “My Son, this is your punishment. Come home Glorious, or Die Forgotten!”
@@12687SAZ He dead
The grind for the exotic class items is going to be crazy. If 8 spirits in each column, that's 64 combinations per character. 😅
And still people wanted more combinations. Ridiculous.
Why not? The more combinations equals more grind. Let people have fun and lets not the extinguish the wow factor @@Michael-ee4uz
Im just happy it’s in the game
Thats not bad at all... weapon perk combinations are way more insane and people chase weapon god roll all the time
@@Michael-ee4uzits not ridiculous to want your dream combination of exotics. Its understandable to want them and understandable why they wouldnt implement them. Im happy with an opening line up and hopefully they add more in the future
I love that Oryx was a warrior and a philosopher writing the books of sorrow becoming touch of malice was a chapter in his chronicles awesome.
as a warlock main I wish that the exotic class item had a spirit of karnstein, that would have been awesome to pair it with spirit of necrotic.
I was really hoping for controverse holds
@@BlazingInferno00I was hoping for Felwinter 😔
Bro i was hopping for the sunbracers/ phonix duo omg could you even imagine
@@LAVAZZ.I wanted sunbracers too
Synthoceps × Winter's Guile would be nuts
Oryx coming to our system proved that he did care for him. Savathun even said that it went against the his own logic to avenge his son and he still went ahead with it.
Also spirit and necrotic and claw is an *eh* combo at best since necrotic doesn’t need powered melees to work.
You're not looking deep enough. Use the lightning surge aspect and arcane needle melee with it, and all of a sudden you're getting 4 charges of lightning surge that deal poison and jolt AoE.
@@voltus20Bungie themselves have said claws of ahamkara doesn't work with Arcane needle
@@kilickmarsh2793try putting it on right now
@@kilickmarsh2793bungie do be lying
if it works then cool but honestly just get vesper instead to cover grenades. that 1 more melee isnt that big of a deal as lets say having faster regen of healing nade will be
For the people that might be unaware, now that they gave the DLCs for free until TFS, you can go unlock and keep Vexcalibur and Wicked Implement right now if you didn't had the seasons tied to those exotics. You can launch Avalon for someone else right away without them doing the nodes in the EDZ, but for Wicked Implement they are gonna need to do a Salvage first to unlock Deep Dives, the problem is that finding a full lobby for Salvage might take a while nowadays, so hopefully my comment gets more people playing both Salvages and Deep Dives.
You can also claim a shit-ton of materials and stuff from the premium rows of the past seasons. Cheese Forever made a video going into the details.
People are really sleeping on how potent the triple melee consecration and spirit of contact could be. Jolt AND ignition on a single melee, WITH radiant activating from the fragment? Ridiculous.
Keep spitting them facts.
brother who is sleeping on content thats not even out yet lmfao
Warlock with Spirit of Necrotic and Lightning Surge. Spreading jolt and poison
I’m so in.
not boss dps so no
I'm gonna need a transmog option for that hunter class item...
And the titan diaper.
@@digizilla164 Count warlocks too, normaaly our class item is invisable, now its a bit toooo visable.
That’s my biggest concern tbh. We got too much drip rn
Day 1! 🤣🤣
True. It's look will impair my drip and an impaired drip results in Hunter death
Fun fact, had bungie not reversed the Timegate we would STILL be waiting for weapons to be released.
So glad they went back on this because almost nobody has a shiny godroll 😭
Actually, it would have been easier to get a shiny godroll of the earlier ones if Bungie had kept it. Because there would be less types of guns dropping, so you would have had more chances on the ones that were available.
I have many skill issue
@@LordSalissidk how valid this is, because I'm not getting any shiny rolls from weapons I'm not targeting 💀
It would be significantly worse because the time we have to farm them is cut down significantly...
I have 3. Maybe they just drop less often.
@@myles5276rarely drop for me and it's always ass perks when they do drop 😭
But thankfully I still have a good chunk of time to farm it :3
The only disappointment to me is no Spirit of Necrotic Grips, I wanted Hunters and Titans to finally be able to enjoy poison builds
I feel the same way about not getting an extra nade on my Warlock, its lame.
Same bro
Hunters got literally the same thing with spirit of caliban and titans with spirit of contact.
It's just a difference in the color, lol
Everyone deserves Necrotic. Question, though. Is Spirit of Necrotic getting some kind of nerf or are we getting a base Necrotic buff. They said any exotic with one trait that has a spirit will get a minor buff. So either Necrotic gets buffed or spirit of Necrotic won't synergize with weapons of sorrow because that would be considered the secondary trait.
@@andreymavian3400 Necrotic poison spreads when an enemy poisoned dies period, so it can spread near infinitely and applies to Weapons of Sorrow, very fun stuff
So the raid will be us probably completing whatever the final shape is. There better be something in game for solo players to see outside of a stop motion cutscene if that's the case
They already confirmed that the final campaign mission unlocks after the raid is complete. The raid is our first main confrontation with the Witness and the campaign mission is where everything is going to end. Satisfies the raider by giving us the main confrontation in the raid, and the playerbase as a whole by giving everybody a chance to kill the Witness in the campaign
Bro if you’re gonna learn any raid and find a squad for said raid, it should be the final shape raid. I’m a solo player and I will be raiding when I’m ready. why cut yourself out of the content
Cry, if you still play destiny solo at this point its your fault
cope 💀💀💀
@@DrChili1428 that makes 0 sense. I bought destiny 1 and 2 and all the dlcs to play solo.
In case anyone was curious that’s 64 possible combinations per class
They give us 100 vault space but now we gotta hold 192 exotic class items😂
@@camdenmiller7127Cross is gonna have like 300 class items
@@camdenmiller7127 😂 So true. But I don’t think every roll will be worth keeping
And these guardians want more. It will be hard enough farming for the rolls we can get.
Bro I want 500
I was really hoping for the Skull of Dire Ahamkara with Nezarec Sin combo to give Nova bomb some spice
Cross’s videos are literally the only thing on RUclips I don’t 1.5x speed for because he already talks quick enough and they’re always jammed full of info. This is appreciated. Most sh online is so slow moving. This combined with the positivity and levity be brings are the reason he’s top of D2 content creators list. Thanks dude for keeping it fun and informative.
As a Warlock main who plays PvP a lot, the selection of perks is tragic. So many of them tied to using rift, in some cases even empowering rift specifically while Hunters can use their perks on every dodge. Big disappointment from PvP standpoint. For PvE some combos are pretty solid.
As a warlock main, we have been getting shafted since void 3.0 (no self proc devour), solar 3.0 (phoenix dive on a class ability, no healing charge grenades, bottom tree dawnblade died), arc 3.0 (no ensamble perk built in, no arc web chain)
this saddens me but i was expecting this not gonna lie
edit: forgot to mention that they removed almost all non ranged melees except one arc one from warlock
Right ? I wanted more for my grenades, this is lame.
@@JaschromeI would say that Warlocks didn't really get weaker, but the other classes got way stronger at the expense of Warlock's class identity due to them sharing their unique traits with the other 2 like Devour, Jolt, Healing grenade.
@@andreymavian3400 yea...it's funny how well of radiance is the only reason why warlocks are the "best healers" according to bungie when titans and hunters can heal as much if not more often using some buildcrafting than solar warlocks in neutral game, same with void where devour is just one orb of power away on other classes, and the ionic traces and faster movement along with jolt (arc web on top tree arc on stormcaller) is just given to others, all we got was invisibility on finishers (useless in pvp) and sliding over ammo bricks refills the weapon (from middle tree arc titan and now literally useless in pvp) ignitions from bottom tree dawnblade is given to all too (hunters and titans again doing it better because of caliban's and consecration)
I’m not even a warlock main but yeah shits rough man. Hunters literally always get the best shit despite complaining the most
Spirit of contact and severance with consecration or the titan thunder punch melee sounds like a fun combo
Sadly that’s really the only one I’m looking at that might be worth while…
Consecration & the strand claw melee are the 2 that I think are going to be the ones to keep an eye on if you get that roll.
ngl this detailed look at the class items brought my hype down quite a bit
LISTEN TO ME. Calibans/Liars handshake (or synthos) class item, with combination blow and grapple grenade
Hol up ........ Let this man cook
Continue.... this is looking diabolical
Yeah that has been my plan since the reveal, especially with the slow on dodge and in is on debuff aspects we are getting
I’m looking at Assassins Cowl with those 2 perks, become Miles Morales with those abilities and invisibility.
i see the vision bud id swap calibans with Cyrtarachne's Facade for woven mail
Aw dang. Im a little dissapointed. I was hoping we could get skullfort and thunderbrace combo for titan so i can infinitely throw lightning cannon punches.
But the potential combo of assassin cowl and gyrfalcon seems like it could be nice
Was hoping for synthos and star eaters in separate columns to bandaid arc Titan but looks like I'll just be synthos and inmost light or severance on strand
Shadowkeep and BL campaign (alongside stasis) being free is quite a W, I can finally convince my friends to try out the game
Those campains suck if I was new and played that I would quit on the spot shadow keeps is literally crafting a set of armor the whole campaign and that’s it
you won’t get to use stasis if you don’t have BL unfortunately
@@Rockdwaynejonnyson
Just gonna ignore all the loot and abilities?
@@moss2407 Bungie is making those free after final shape.
Just speed run the campaigns with them and help them understand crafting and builds. They do a better job explaining now that before but the new player experience is still really bad
They took my dreams of Severance Enclosure+Assassin's Cowl or Felwinter Helm, and crushed them.
That said, I'll probably still be looking for Assassin/Scars, Hoarfrost/Scars, Horn, or Armamentarium, and maybe a Severance/Contact.
Assassin/Severance+Scars is one combo I immediately landed on myself. Thinking, Consecration+Strand Melee+Knockout, using Thundercrash with a Voltshot weapon, and the fragment that gives melee energy when getting rapid kills with Light damage.
I wanted severance n necrotic grips but o well I have severance n point contract braces so I’m fine with that
@@Fir7shadow Lacking Banner of War, specing into safety and sustain is probably gonna be a good move. Scars is gonna be super versatile since you can match your weapons to your super.
I think Assassin is gonna be the better combination here in that regard. The invisibility proc will let you reposition pretty easily. Severance seems to have lost out on its chain explosions, so not quite as much popcorn crowd control on enemies, which is a bit sad.
@@raekwonchambers2297 Necrotic consecrations would have been wild, double dots to anything that manages to survive the slam just sounds like good dumb fun.
I wanted Dunemarchers and Peregrine Greaves.
I hate time gating but at the same time this gives me something to chase when I’m done with the raid/ campaign
Yeah, which now it makes sense why they are dropping the raid so early. They knew more people would cry over time gating than an early raid.
They know D2 players are feins for mid content 😭😭😭
This is an example of well done time gating
@@legoshi6531🤓
As a Strandlock who never takes off Necrotics: Seeing a Necrotic/Syntho combo is gonna be me CHUM
Pair it with the felwinter's helm!
High five fellow Necro Strandlock
@@novadnebula451 Felwinters helm is not on the class item..did you watch the video?
As a Voidlock who just wishes I could use the strand melee + Necrotic Grips combo I'm pretty excited. I do wish the right side of the class item was a little better. Spirit of the Claw/Swarm/Harmony/Verity will all be pretty bad unless they get some kind of buff. Melee charge unneeded when you have 3 already/threadlings suck/gives negligible super energy/the bonus nade damage was always the least useful part. But spirit of Starfire will be nice
If verity works with the new solar warlock super. Oh boy!
Kinda bummed that so many of the warlock exclusives are tied to rift when you can use Phoenix dive on Prismatic
Was Hoping i would be able to gain devour with Phoenix dive.
@@theremnants6807 dw isntead you just shatter an enemy and get it instead easy peasy...
i think they showed off titan thruster with the suspend barricade aspect and it still worked, so hopefully they change this for warlock too.
aint no way im not running thruster or phoenix dive on both these classes
@@KormitTheFrag No luck, the description specifically mentions the empowering rift, or a rift in general
Foetracer and Verity riff off each other really well. One boosts grenades the other boosts weapon damage
For Warlocks, the two best PvE combos seem to be the one they mentioned in the article, apotheosis + star eater & filaments + starfire. I would advise using the former of the two with needle storm or nova bomb as spirit of apotheosis states it buffs ability regen on super END, not on cast like the stand alone version does. I think this combo will be especially potent if you cast your super while transcendent (as seen in gameplay footage) because this should allow you to spam quite a few of the new combo grenades you get in transcendence. As for filaments + starfire, I really think this could be a seriously potent combo when used with the "feed the void" aspect & the "bleak watcher" aspect. Drop empowering rift to activate devour, gets kills in rift to gain grenade energy & extend devour, deploy multiple turrets, profit.
Apotheosis+verity might be crazy too
@@pooPbutwhole Absolutely. Now I've had time to theorycraft a bit, I also think spirit of the assassin + spirit of synthoceps + arcane needle + the lightning surge aspect will also slap pretty hard. Use one needle charge to grab a kill to go invis, sprint, slide, activate a buffed lightning surge, go invis again, etc. You can also combo this with facet of dawn to go radiant of melee hits & facet of bravery to activate unraveling rounds for strand weapons on melee kills.
I don't think you'll want to use filaments with feed the void. That alone already makes it very easy to gain devour, so it's a bit of a waste of an exotic perk. Using Osmiomancy instead might be better to gain additional grenade energy from grenade hits (the way this is phrases, it could very well work with bleak watcher itself)
@@kreia187 I can see your point but I think the improved devour with FTV is preferable for my proposed combo. Extra nade energy & extra health. Spirit of osmiomancy honestly looks weak without the extra nade charge. If I was using coldsnaps on prismatic I would probably just use the existing osmiomancy exotic. One interaction I'm curious about is Contraverse Hold. Prismatic warlock can use vortex nades & the Bleak Watcher aspect, so will charging the vortex nade to activate the turret count as a "charged grenade" for the purposes of Contraverse's exotic perk ? If it does then that could be totally busted. If hits from the turret activate the perk then you could get multiple (five by my count) activations per turret.
Goin for that hunter star eater and galanor combo baby
I assume silence and squall will be the best for that?
@@camdenmiller7127for sure
@@camdenmiller7127silence and squall does less damage then a whirling maelstrom rn. If it gets a massive buff in final shape then sure
@@daycejohnson but silence is a one off
Golden gun works too but the arc one will be great!
Alright hear me out. Spirit of Necrotic/Spirit of the Claw + Lightning Surge aspect and Arcane Needle melee. Now that will be spicy.
Hold up, chef, may I suggest instead of claw replace it with spirit of synthos. Think about it. You already have three charges. Why not just have extra melee damage instead. No one come in the kitchen The chef locks are cooking!!
Since we have to use prismatic, we can have the 3 charges of arcane needle to litghning surge with
@@MrMars-sb3yqthis might be the most cringe comment I have ever seen on RUclips in all the years I have been using it 😬
Why would you need a 4th charge?
@@MrMars-sb3yq Because the idea of using a 4th Charge isn't meant for damage but to increase add-clearing potential. The more melee charges you have the more chances you'll get to infect enemies with poison.
Does empowered weapons also include weapons buffed by radiant? If so, I have a few ideas for prismatic.
No necrotic on hunter or titan is a massive oof
FINAL SHAPE NEEDS WAY MORE VAULT SPACE!! There are 64 different exotic class item combinations per class. Add those to the existing 41 exotics per class (that you probably have multiple stat rolls for), and exotic armor alone will need at least 315 spaces for any collector. If you include the 140 craftable weapons (that you probably don't want to dismantle and re-craft), it only leaves us a little over 200 spaces for random rolled items.
Still waiting on Frost Armor news, it was supposed to drop this for ever season by now, and the concept was mentioned in the prismatic twab for fragments.
I know they’ve been tossing everything under the sun in front of the player base to prevent us from leaving lately and every twab was about the final shape info, but what happened to this season being a stasis season?
I imagine it could be any Twab now, but at this point it just means that it’s going to be released with the final shape, and the “will be released later this season” was nothing.
Am I hyperfixating on a buff for stasis while we got all this other cool stuff coming? Yeah, but stasis never got the limelight we were told this season.
this exactly, stasis is my most used subclass and its kinda sad that its not getting the love is deserves, and even when it was its turn to be “the” subclass of the season, it still got overshadowed by everything
@kyanmatena3948 they added like 500000 solar buffs in the artifact idky they did that its really dumb
Prismatic hype aside im also worried for stasis too especially when bleak watcher and renewal grasps are on the new class item. If stasis gets nothing worth using in final shape, prismatic is just gonna take everything good about the classes and put the final nail in the coffin
At the very least, there is convincing evidence in the Warlock prismatic showcase of stasis shards bring intrinsic like tangles. The Warlock killed a hunter after freezing them and then a stasis shard spawned off their death. Since shards were not part of the aspect line ups for any of the classes, I'm speculating that stasis shards will work similarly to tangles, especially since the warlocks super was stasis and many things about prismatic interactions are dictated by super.
I feel your pain brother, stasis is so fucking cool and this season was initially hyped up to have it be a highlight in the artifact and then again with frost armor and fragments and whatever else they were gonna do but it seems like it’s been pushed back to final shape with no new word on it. Which is disappointing
One of my current favourite solo dps builds currently is Apotheosis Veil with Well and fusion nades and snap melee, plus dragon’s breath. It’s great. Looking at the exotic class item combos, I can see Spirit of Apotheosis and Spirit of Star eater.
Here’s the idea, two to be specific.
1. New solar super with (hopefully) all the charged melees and nades being buffed by star eaters, then the super ends and you have another window of time to throw melees and nades due to Apotheosis. Hopefully it’ll be good, at the very least it will be fun.
2. Needlestorm super, plus whatever highest damage melee and nade is. Needlestorm is already a dps king with Apotheosis and being buffed by Stareaters, even if Bungie might tone down the damage boost for balance reasons, it’ll still be nuts.
I also curious whether you can proc Ascendance before triggering your super, then get your Giga nades being refreshed constantly by Apotheosis. Just a few thoughts.
I'm so sad that Titan doesn't get necro grips because that was one of the only things that I was looking forward to but it is what it is
Why would they have gave titans necrotic grips?
@BreightonMaxamillion titans are the melee class and it fits well since dredgen yor was a titan.
@@cerebralassassin2185 yeah but titans fkn suck
@@isaiahpowell Then what's the issue? If you think they suck then there's no harm in making them better
@@AnubisWasHere They deserve to be oppressed
2:18 I think we may have been overestimating the importance of these class items in making Prismatic Subclass powerful. Prismatic subclasses can still benefit fully from many tradition exotics in addition to the ton of new ability combination and synergy. Essentially for the Prismatic related super… if there is was a main exotic people would run with it… it would only be improved on the prismatic subclass because you getting the tradition super in addition to all the prismatic combination and synergy.
Don’t forget these spirit of “exotic” class items aren’t giving the full strength of many of the exotics…usually it’s only a portion. Spirit of Synthoceps for example doesn’t buff super energy. Meaning while you gain some extra exotic armor effect… both exotics you have are likely nerfed from their full power when using the normal exotic. Unfortunately they aren’t giving full exotic perks for each exotic on the class items. So instead of 1+1=2 it’s more like 0.5+0.5=1.
Yes there will be new combinations and synergies made possible… in addition to giving other class exotic perks (star eater for example) … but they traditional exotics at full effectiveness could make just as strong of a difference in the strength of a particular Prismatic build.
At least that’s the way I’m seeing it.
Only thing I'm a little bummed about with the class items is no Gyrfalcon on other classes. I really appreciate the focus. It seems like there's potential for wild combinations, while being balanced/not being overwhelming
Grenades and melees are strong enough on other classes to trigger both invis and volatile rounds, so it's not that bad.
I agree that this should have been a universal one for everybody.
I imagine they still want the classes to feel unique. If everyone had everything, it erases that power fantasy for each class. Just me guessing.
Gyrfalcon + Renewal is gonna be busted
@@andreymavian3400 with respect, this is not true, specifically with regards to invis. Volatile and Jolt, sure. But with what we know so far of Prismatic there are no ways for classes other than Hunter to become invis beyond what currently exists (i.e. heartshadow and rat king)
They ARE static rolls cross. The article said "check out ALL the possible combos below"
Spirit of necrotic should have been made available to every class
hell no
@@isaiahpowell man some people hate fun with a passion on D2
@@ReeceRacc Nah the problem is everyone would run it and it would get hard nerfed
@@JarJarBricks01 its only super strong with the strand warlock aspect. Outside of that it just fun
Hunters got ignitions on melee kills and Titan got jolt on melee hits. These 2 effects function differently, but are literally as potent if not stronger in some cases. Before you say I'm wrong, go and test a difference in dmg between these 3 effects in PvE.
In the end of the day it will be a difference of which color of rainbow you like: orange, green or blue. A bunch of people really seem to simp green, lol
Hunter - Essentialism
Titan - Stoicism
Warlock - Solipsism
Where have we heard this before?
They really said “titan’s go fuck yourself” with those available perks, they chose the most ass titan exotics 😂
They said they would be buffing exotics so that many combinations are better than expected so who knows they could end up being busted
The spirit of Ursa furiosa perk(Ursa roughly meaning bear in case you didn't know) seems like it can grant a hefty amount of super energy depending on the damage you eat. Could come in useful.
Eternal Warrior and Star Eater on Titans. Build up the Star Eaters from Orbs, Launch as a Dude Missile Titan, nail the target, then as you move away, use a Blowout Rocket Launcher with Explosive Light to benefit from both Eternal Warrior and Explosive Light for Massive Damage
Titans class item got shafted so hard imo. I legitimately don't think ill bother running it over a normal exotic. I wanted something like the hunter perk that gives volatile or necrotic grips from warlock
That's what im saying. There's maybe 2 interesting ones at most.
Gave us the worst stuff
Yeah not starting out strong when one of the interesting combos is just two grenades and baby version of hoil. One was basically just a cheaper version of the other and Spirit Hoil will probably be even more underwhelming than Hoil feels rn.
Sure maybe not as many good options, but the ones that stand out seem REALLY good (severance + contact, severance + synthos, and assassin + synthos because why not lol). i feel its more a quality over quantity thing for us. i dont see who is gonna be using spirit of eternal warrior, horn, alpha lupi, or hoarfrost. but i also see where yall are coming from, especially in the left column, definitely a bit disappointing on that side. but hey, at least well be able to use the main part of precious scars without being an eyesore lol.
@@TyeJak588They did mention some exotics will be buffed. Maybe hoil will be one of them, which will in turn buff the spirit of hoil. We can only hope!
The first exotic class item roll I'll be chasing is a combo of Spirit of Apotheosis + Spirit of the Stareater for my DPS strand warlock. I already use the build as is to compete with hunters on a dps phase using my(specially crafted for this build) Apex Predator with Demo+Bait(pair that with thread of generation + ascent for an effect similar to old Starfire), but now my build will be even better with my Needlestorm super doing extra damage for free.
Hell yeah favorite part of thrusdsys
Bro, Spirit of Assassin and Spirit of Synthoceps might be a sneaky good combo
Galanor and Star-Eater is wild
I immediately told my hunter friend of this combo lol
yeah but blade barrage isn't on the prismatic class list.. so unless its applying to something else it won't matter,
@yulfine1688 it says that super hits and kills return super energy, nothing to do with Blade barrage
Really wanted spirit of the synthocep and wormgod. Nothing broken about it
Yeah shame this totally balanced combo couldn’t come to fruition 😢
IMMEDIATELY I am farming a class exotic item with spirit of severance and spirit of synthoceps. I have an add clearing machine build in mind that I think will be *chef's kiss*
Spirit of the Dragon and Star Eater.
Spirit of Caliban and Synthoceps.
Think of it this spirit of in most and spirit of contact, You can get three consecrations as well and then have a pulse made. They'll just be feeding back into your consecrations.
@recklesscanadian yeah that also sounds like it could be awesome. I'm so hyped though lol. It's a good day to be a Titan main xD
@@Veloros1047 Don't get me wrong. I still think Titans got screwed the most out of prismatic like most of the aspects they gave Titans or the shittiest ones of the subclasses. But it's still going to be fun to have something new and a new enemy type.
@@recklesscanadian for sure. I am just looking forward to making insane add clear chain reaction type melee builds.
god damn cross nailed that intro this time perfect haha
No Nighthawk and Star Eaters combo 😔
It's for the best. As much as I would love it, people would just be asking for hunters as often as they do warlocks and we'd get pigeonholed into the same "must use this" role lol
assassin's and liar's combo though, I'll take that win. And an unexpected renewal/cyrtarachne
Holy crap that’d be insane
@@Zevox144 You really don't need assassin though since you have stylish to get invis. Add bonus, stylish invis grants your next melee weakness debuffs and also increases it damage by, if I recall correctly, 150%. The weakening affect is perfect to help CB loop stylish.
@@nobodyscomment929 That's assuming I'll be using that cloak on prismatic instead of staying dedicated to the art of punch.
Prismatic warlock
I’m not exactly sure how I feel about prismatic warlock if it’s gonna be better than the current go toos other than a few builds. But there are a few that I am excited for in this main one I came up with I think it’s going to be pretty solid.
And I think it’s surpasses its mono class version of itself.
Exotic class item-Necrotic+Star eaters
Nova bomb/Needlstorm(not sure how the super performs without aspect that increases threading damage)
Class ability-phenix dive (or heal rift)
Melee-Arcane needle
Grenade-Freezing singularity(or vortex)
Aspect-Feed the void-Devour
-Weavers call(not sure about threadings without the fragment that boost their damage).(or Helleon depending if it’s good or not warlock aspects for this are lame)
Fragments
Facet of Balance Rapidly defeating targets with Light damage grants melee energy. Rapidly defeating targets with Dark damage grants grenade energy.
Facet of Dawn
(starting) Powered melee hits against targets make you Radiant. Powered melee final blows make both you and nearby allies Radiant.
Facet of Grace Damaging targets with Kinetic weapons grants you bonus Transcendence energy. Defeating targets with your Super grants you and nearby allies bonus Transcendence energy.
Facet of Justice While Transcendent, your ability final blows explode.
-Weapons-
kinetic -favorite necrotic spreading primary.
Energy- whatever special ends up having champion rounds.
Heavy-Whatever heavy has most beneficial artifact mods.
Analysis- this essentially should be the classic necrotic grip plus weapons of sorrow build on steroids. Your supers will be hitting a lot harder with the new exotic class item. Plus you’ll have devour. While you don’t get the suspend this should be a lot more potent in terms of damage. You run the strand melee so you can spread the necrotic damage most easily. The new grenade sounds like it’ll be good but vortex is always reliable. Other than getting devour the other aspects are pretty meaningless so pick whichever one’s most fun for you. And lastly the fragments I feel like are the least flexible in this build other than the weapons coming up essentially are going to be using your primary most of the time which is a kinetic weapon so it’ll feed into this new transcendence system. And the weapons other than your weapon of sorrow weapon that you choose really don’t really matter. And finally, the main gameplay loop is clearing ads generating orbs and spreading necrotic damage charging your supers and throwing off nuclear needle, storms, and nova bombs. Overall, I believe this will be better than the mono, strand necrotic build currently. Especially with the numerous nerfs to suspend, Nerfs of woven male and the Nerfs of thread of generation that have hunted that build over the past year.
This seems like it’ll have pretty solid up time with the new transcendence system. It all depends how poison works with transcendence if it counts as kinetic damage if it’s its own thing.
**Can confirm the extension referenced for Firefox DOES in fact work for chrome. Very helpful
How do we progress prior seasons tho?
What extension? What's it do?
@@ghostlyclone can only redeemed rewards, nothing can be done to change the progression state of anything but active season
Me finding out spirit of coyote and spirit of wormhusk are in the same column makes me want to cry because as soon as I figured out how the class items worked I wanted one with those together
Lol, PvP Strike Team probably called that combo in advance and told the devs: "Don't do that."
@@DPantherful1 I just clutch to it like crazy in pve and pvp lol
Free campaigns post TFS is such a huge win. Even if you don’t get the exotics, you still get the experience and stasis.
Next step is just making all the content free
I disagree with them making the content free. It’s a business they can’t just make things free and expect to give us nice things. Nice things come at a cost.
I also disagree with making it all free, same reason as a above. I bought the content, doesn't make sense for people who didn't buy it to get everything. Have fun with stasis and whatever but if you really love the game, buy the content.
As a Titan main, I don't think I have been less excited about new exotics before. Both this and prismatic will suck until they expand the abilities of prismatic
The titan ones are pretty bad. Nothing seems viable other than atmost 2
The video looked so calm and ass compared to the other 2 smh
@@georgealvernia2711 I just want Titans to look cool again 😭
Not gonna lie this is a lot more limited than I first thought
Everything is. They intensively mislead everyone in the reveal stream.
They knew if they showed off how limited this stuff was they wouldn't have generated as much hype
@@FlashesSoccer011 they didn’t “mislead” anyone. Your personal expectations doesn’t mean you were mislead. You assumed, and that’s your own fault.
@@FlashesSoccer011 They didn't really misslead anybody, they never said we could get unlimited access to whatever we wanted to do with the class items/prismatic. People just saw it and immediately let their theories take over
@@Dougiebfresh12100 They 100% mislead people. You Bungie white knights are clowns. They never once said that prismatic would be limited to on or two choices per subclass. They purposely left out that information while talking about how this new class would allow for unparalleled freedom to mix and match. If they had said "we have ore determined what you are allowed to use and it's only the least used abilities" then no one would have been excited.
They also made the combo exotic class items seems way more open and free. Now there are specific columns to which perks are locked?
You are a delusional moron if you think it wasn't a calculated decision to only present the good news and not the bad during their stream.
@@petervalvo1186 They said that we would have freedom to mix and match all sub classes for prismatic. They deliberately didn't say "we have actually pre determined what you can and can't use, and its only the most under used abilities"
They said their goal was to literally break the game and balance.
If they had given us the information about how limited it is, they wouldn't have generated nearly as much hype. It was a calculated PR decision.
You'd have to be a moron to not see that.
Hold up.
So the different class hybrid exotics are named after the 3 factions that the Precursors belonged to?
Hunters - Essentialism, Titans - Stoicism, Warlocks - Solipsism.
Interesting.
I wonder if this ties to the internal conflict of the Witness in the Raid story. Depending on which faction wins out in it's collective mind.
This was a meaty TWAB! I'm not mad. Warlocks getting a super power boost is most welcome!
I just wanna say this was a dream in the making. The fact that Bungie actually made double exotics into a classic item is about the greatest thing in destiny 2 pve. I fkin love you Bungie
Prismatic is DOA
They should make a game mode where we can use all exotics for all slots across weapons and armor. Maybe a content mode activity with us being a lower level but offset it with all exotics combo. It’ll be wild!
8:33 Arbor Warden about to become the most versatile & deadly grenade!
Hunters:
Spirit of Calibans and Synthoceps
Combination Blow
Grapple Melee
Heavy Handed mod
-Strand Super
-Woven mail on orb pick up fragment
-Buried bloodline for devour
-Threaded Spector for infinite clones while dodge punching
- Winters Shroud to slow while dodging
-Each dodge punch kill creates an ignition
Combine this with the other fragments as well and you have a fun melee loop with some survivability.
I’m gonna use silence and squall with spirit of galanor and spirit of star eaters so I can get my super energy back faster and do bonus damage when I use it because it doesn’t say it has to be a solar super to use spirit of galanor so it’ll work with any super within the prismatic subclass gonna be great using stasis still 😂.
Just gonna grab apotheosis and star eaters for warlock, needle storm dps gonna go crazy
Hear me out.......
Titan Exotic with spirit of assassin and spirit of contact, paired with strand melee (3 charges) and consecration!
3 melee charges, which is 3 consecrations, but..... Every melee then chains lightning that jolts enemies around you, plus when it kills you turn invisible!
Its also Military appreciation month here in the USA.
Aight, based on the stuff we have confirmed here's what could be a totally broken Titan build:
Super - Blade Fury
Melee - Frenzied Blade
Nade - Suppressor Grenade (I have a reason, trust)
Aspects - Knockout & Consecration
Exotic Class item - Spirit of Assassin + Spirit of Contact
Fragments - Facet of Balance (rapidly defeating enemies with light dmg grants melee energy, dark dmg grants grenade)
Facet of Dawn (powered melee hits grants radiance)
Facet of Protection (being surrounded increases DR)
Facet of Purpose (orbs grant buff based on super dmg type, in this case Woven Mail)
Facet of Ruin (increase AOE & dmg of shatters, increase AOE of ignitions)
Facet of Dominance (void grenades weaken, arc grenades jolt)
So frenzied blade gives us three charges of consecration, we've all seen that in the gameplay & it's just too good not to use. Spirit of assassin gives us invis on consecration kills & knockout gives us health regen + adds arc dmg to next consecration. Spirit of contact adds jolt to the consecration for even more potency. In addition, facet of balance is going to give us melee energy back for every enemy killed with consecration, facet of dawn will make us radiant with any melee hits, facet of protection will keep us safe while punching mf'ers & with the use of a heavy handed mod for orb gen, facet of purpose will further increase survivability. I included 6 fragments as Bungo said most prismatic aspects have 3 energy slots but if for some reason consecration & knockout do not then the last two fragments listed above are totally optional. When you start factoring in stuff like impact induction & momentum transfer mods, even going full send & rocking out the Monte Carlo, this build has the potential to be one of the most busted things we've ever seen.
I'm already thinking about some hunter combinations, like for pvp the spirit of the dragon with spirit of the wormhusk and the exotic armor sixth coyote seems a good combination (since you will get two dodges that gave you heal and reload all of yours weapons). And for pve i got a idea of solar damage super like golden gun with Celestial Nighthawk and the spirit of galanor to get the super back real quick and the spirit of star eater just to do more damage.
You WON'T be able to run both class item exotics and normal exotics
@@andreymavian3400 really?? I thought we will be able to use a exotic and the exotic class item at the same time, like we use to have in d1… mb 🙃
@@Mzoiayeah that would be broken AF , the d1 exotic class item was barely even "Exotic" gave some sort of EXP buff if I remember correctly
@@Mzoia Yes, they stated that specifically in the stream
Rip Gyrfalcons/Orpheus Rig..... Guess it was too good to be true
You know damn well Bungie wasn't gonna give us that combo. lol.
@@enterthekyuubi was a bit of a pipe dream wasn't it. Guess I'll continue to exotic swap in unlocked activities then 😂😅
you dont really get rift energy regeneration with either spirit of the stag or spirit of vesper tho
I saw that too. That's the trade-off of getting more than one bonus out of a rift though.
What I haven't seen confirmed is if these class items count as your exotic armor or if it'll be like the d1 exotic class item where you cld another armor piece as well.
Looks like the strand rocket sidearm in the warlock pvp part of the video
You just know there’s going to be a few combinations that’s going to unleash some kind of unstoppable god build. The best part, you will be the only person in the world with that build until someone else gets the same roll.
Theoretically could you use spirit of osmiomancy and spirit of starfire to get old starfire back ? Because the osmiomancy states “your grenades recharge quicker on hit. The seeker spawned from cold snap grenades travel further” the period leads me to believe that it just means any grenade. So maybe old starfire is back ?????
Syntho with Assassin, HOIL or Severance is gonna be hot, especially with triple consecration. If I can’t get one of those, HOIL with armamentarium or Abyant with Horn are gonna be my next picks.
As close as we’ll get to being able to equip 2 exotics, and I’m stoked for the build potentials
I want the renewal perk and the perk where you get woven mail when using a grenade. Im gonna use duskfield to get damage resist with renewal and woven mail from using it. Im gonna use buried bloodline so i can proc devour for grenade regen for each kill and health regen
Unbreakable isn’t Ursa Furiosa it’s the new aspect when you hold you’re grenade it makes the shield
Grapple grenade,combination blow, spirit of the liar, spirit of synthos, stylish executioner (for invis off ignition kills and weaken when meleeing out of invis) and either winters shroud or threaded specter. Use navigator w catalyst for infinite grapple melee and I already know what fragments to use but I’m not gonna yap that much. Hunters will have great melee builds
Lmaooo the end 🤣
SPIRIT OF RENEWAL & SPIRIT OF THE CYRTARACHNE
unkillable? what happens ?
Cross why does it say starfire will be on the class item but no fusion grenade will be available on the prismatic subclass at all
I wish that spirit of necrotic would have been universal as bungle promised the other classes would have access to it this would have been a great time for it.
While I am disappointed that there aren’t some combinations available *cough* wormgods synthos *cough*, I understand and I hope they expand and add more in the future even if they’re not the super god like combos. Will still be fun to get the random rolls and make builds around what you get
Will our current armor become obsolete with this new prismatic armor ?
The biggest takeaway is that class ability exotics will become pretty useless with these exotics. For example, it was already annoying to see so many Hunter dodge related exotics that would work well together in conjunction but didn’t stand strong enough alone to warrant the slot. This’ll let me actually use some good combos for rifts on Warlock without it feeling like a waste
Makes sense to not put all exotics into the class item right away, as that could be an RNG nightmare but I was hoping to see more of the lesser used ability exotics being used. Hopefully they will add more down the road!
Main one I’m thinking, would be some sort of grenade spam melee spam warlock build heart of inmost light verities with the new warlock super
Apothesis with star eaters on strandlock
assassin with sythoceps on arc hunter 👌
Idk about spirit of the stag. It specified your allies. Not “you and your allies.” Unless I misunderstood it?
Allies counts you typically
@@hadvar.the.viking ahh okay that’s cool then. Just wasn’t sure if it was one of those times where bungie would change it so it only benefits other people in your rift instead of
Holy crap. It actually didn't occur to me that you could combine exotics from different classes. I'm over here thinking of two Hunter exotics that'll pair together well when I could be looking at exotics from all the classes
Prismatic warlock dive bomber, vesper, weavers call aspect and a glaive
It will be interesting to see with Spirit of Galanor and Spirit of Star Eater what the damage potential and frequency of the Silence and Squall super might be. Throwing more of them while doing extra damage sounds like a nice buff to that super.
Unbreakable is tied to your grenade, so you'd want to pair spirit of the bear with spirit of armamentarium
I know there are some good combos there for warlocks, but I was kind of hoping they would have a little more combination consideration for playing a support build. I would have highly welcomed Lunafaction or Assembler in the second column to pair with Stag in the first.
I really hope the class items can be transmogrified. I already hate having to work around the way an exotic armor piece looks
Sad to not see the spirit of Skullfort present for titan, would have been a perfect fit
Already said it on Dattos video. The exotic class items need to be able to just take transmogg cause there is no way i would ever wear the cape or the titan mark