I really respect how you aren’t afraid to be highly critical of a release even though canon obviously won’t like that when you’re on a trip like this. Shows the integrity of this channel
Canon is aware that DPreview can not lean in favor of any camera brand because they need to advertise for revenue. I rather have reviews from real photographers.
Really good video and I respect the honesty! The main take away from the video is that majority of the "new features" could have been given to the R6 Mark 1 on a firmware update 👍🏼
The processing pipeline of the R6 II seems to be faster (reduced rolling shutter) & more efficient (less heating and significantly longer battery life from the same battery), so many improvements would have needed that. However, I agree that things like false colour could easily have been added via firmware updates. But then, this is Canon we're talking about... the company that has perfected the art of giving the least (features/ capability) for the most (amount of money).
Hmm, more resolution due to a sensor update, hardware changes such as buttons and layout, evf, I don't think the primary new features were possible via firmware.
No they couldn't have. The better auto focus is because of the new sensor, etc. I strongly recommend watching other videos regarding this camera. It has been pretty universally praised and I'm not sure if they're aware of the tone here, but it is coming off as a bit overly critical especially when they're remarking Sony as having "stickier" AF when even the new A7RV has reportedly worse AF than even the original R5. The auto focus intelligence here is the new AF and is based on the R3's AF intelligence. For video, it has Detect Only AF, in which the camera will stop autofocusing if the subject its tracking leaves the frame. This avoids awkward or disruptive focus hunting during recording in situations where the camera would typically lose focus and then hunt around trying to reacquire focus. The R6 II also includes a new Movie Digital IS for enhanced image stabilization for handheld video, as well as built-in webcam support. I am not sure if they didn't test this mode or if it was because of the pre-production--but the detect only should not be hunting. Nevertheless, as Canon often does, I am sure there will be quite a few firmware releases that fix any hunting issues. Stuff like that can be done with a firmware update. Trying to get more than a sensor can handle is never going to work without, well, a new sensor. The sensor also outperforms its specs, can record externally at 6k RAW, is oversampled @ 6k, and supports internal recording of up to 4:2:2 10-bit. It can shoot 180 FPS in 1080p which is huge for the occasional super slow b-roll,
@@hsjawanda Meanwhile Sony won't even give basic features found in low end cameras to their very high end cameras like the A7SIII in firmware. The A7RV is just the A7RIV with firmware updates and new LCD. Sony is the stingiest camera company out there when it comes to firmware. The way Canon revolutionized the R5 with firmware updates (removing overheating, adding Clog3, adding new video codecs) I'd say Canon is one of the most generous when it comes to firmware updates.
LOVE the way you're addressing any new piece of equipment, always saying what you like and what you didn't like, regardless of marketing phrases used to promote it. That's why I always watch your reviews and I don't bother with others. HUGE respect from Serbia!
A lot of people speculated that we'd get to see the R mk.II this year, but with the launch of the R6 mk.II, I guess the R was frankly only the pilot model of the EOS R line up. I'm personally surprised to see the R6 mk.II this early, only a little over 2 years from the mk.I. It's quite an incremental but worthy update given no raises in the launch price. I'm sure some of the new features can be ported to the mk.I thru firmware update, it's just that Canon isn't known for being a generous company. All of that being said, I'm quite happy with the launch. This means the R6 mk.I will go down in price and I can (probably) afford a used one.
dang the wobble in the corners is still there thank God, I was worried they would do something crazy like correct it or something like that, but I'm glad they're more video oriented with the addition of false color and still having the video tools removed off the screen when you press record, everything we love is there, if it is broke, don't fix it, right Canon ?
@@zegzbrutal The problem is that the IBIS also tilts the sensor, rather than only moving it along the flat plane. I wish manufacturers would make an option to have IBIS in video only be 2-axis instead of 5-axis, that would solve this issue.
Yeah it’s definitely nuts but good. Even if you don’t need it. Great to see innovation. Plus it’ll make sure that used market stays stocked up. Only thing that matters is you get what works for you.
@@hoatd1993 There are plenty of people (photographers) who would buy R5 just for the 45mpixel. Some people also love the top screen on R5. It also allows you to have the LCD on while connected to external monitor. It also does All-I in video. I think the target audience is different enough for them to both exist. But that’s just my opinion.
Please note if you are shooting ISO400+ there is no loss in using 12 bit RAW. You can do a comparison between 14 bit RAW and 12 bit RAW at say ISO 800 and the last two bits aren't encoding usable data, basically read noise. For sports and wildlife it's not often one can use lower ISOs to gain the benefit of 14 bit RAW.
11:30 I think this is solved by lowering the Movie Servo AF Tracking Sensitivity. It makes the AF more "sticky" and doesn't jump to other subjects if lowered. By default this is set too high in my opinion.
I am flabbergasted. The R is in dire need of an update. It's in the heart of the FF MILC market and is outgunned by the A7III/Z6II. R6/R3 and now R6II seem incredibly redundant. I had an EOS R for a while but when I saw where Canon was heading I got out.
I'm gonna have to wait for electronic shutter banding tests under LED light, but I'm not holding my breath since it isn't a stacked sensor. Looks like I'll be sticking with my R6 for now.
I thought so, too, but it's not necessary, nor is it the best way to avoid banding to have a stacked sensor. I debated getting an a9 II for the readout speed, but when I had an a7 IV loaner in, I realized that it has a feature to micro adjust shutter speed. With this you can completely eliminate any banding under any light by simply selecting the shutter speed at which it disappears. Case and point, I recently shot an event with the a7 IV and a9 (mark 1) and when I got the files into lightroom I saw banding in the a9 shots because of the terrible lighting, but not in the a7 IV files.
I just read that Canon has added some "artificial sharpness optimizer" to the R6 mark ii to counteract the effects of the low pass filter, which is a shame in my opinion. The Canon R6 and R5 have this stunning cinematic quality in their photo's, I find that this quality and feel is missing in the R6 Mark ii images. I too thought that the clinically sharp, almost lifeless, empty and artificial look was caused by removing the low pass filter. But it seems it is caused by some artificial sharpening system. It is especially noticeable and disturbing while shooting people/portraits. I will definitely keep my original R6, as I feel it has the perfect look and balance while the R6 mark ii does not give me the look I want and feels a bit like a failed experiment with the (overly) artificial sharpness.
this upgrade was due for long time as this model EOS R6 was not positioned well. I guess that with these small changes, EOS R 6II might become useful tool if offered at more competitive price.
I guess Canon published this Camera because of supply optimization or something like this. This updated version only advances in minor steps. So there's something more behind it. My guess they had no old R6 chips anymore.
What's minor about 40 fps with really good rolling shutter and oversampled 4k60p with zero crop? Can you name another camera that can do the same in this price bracket?
I'm in mental anguish! You guys and your SAN DIEGO trip! You should be testing such equipment here on the western Canadian snow filled prairies. C'mon guys... You are both hearty folk! Am I right? 😉
@@CanonEurope "face-only detection" is just an excuse for the camera not being able to lock on and track the target; you don't need that with sony real-time tracking.
All the "major" complaints at the end are software based. They could easily fix them with firmware. But they won't. Because with Canon - they can. But won't. In other aspects, I kinda wonder if I jumped the gun switching to Sony now....
My Sony A7IV came in yesterday.... Made the switch because the R6 had 30 minute record limits and overheating problems. Of course the R6 Mark 2 gets announced the day after with those problems solved. I have so much invested in Canon glass. I'm not sure if I need to return the Sony or not
Does the R6 Mk 2 allow saving customized video (C1,2,3,) or at least to allow setting a default such as 4K 24 vs. the 1080 resolution it defaults back to after shooting stills. Perhaps there is a way to do this but I never found it on the R6.
Very honest video, informative, to the point. I am still looking for a good back up sports camera but don't want to spend the dough on the R3. Not sure this is it yet.
1. You have a wobbling background in some parts of this video. Probably because of in-body-IS? 2. There's an abundance of light in this video. Think you just dont need full-frame, could go with MFT or APS-C easily on those days. (Yes, you were testing - i know) 😃😎 3. Most important: thanks a lot for your super rapid (p)review.
Love watching these late night videos. I got BSI stacked wrong, but at least got the time right. The R6 Mark 2 is what the Mark 1 should have been. Much better video specs. Glad to have your thoughts on this Jordan! False colour is nice, 6K 4K is nice and Canon Log 3. And removed record limit from 30 minutes to 6 hours. Good video guys
Really interesting how different the directions are that Canon and Sony are taking with their respective "entry level" full frame models. They compete in the same price bracket but now offer pretty different things.
@@blackbugmedia I'm used to seeing paid gigs use sub 1500USD cameras and still get the job done nicely. I could not understand people on RUclips has that mind set of only 2000+ USD cameras will be able to do the job. Modern camera are so capable, only users' skill is the biggest limitation.
@@zegzbrutal Yeah, the best photographers I know actually use entry level cams. And the R6/II are around $3400 plus tax here in Canada so definitely not entry level. I paid $4300 for my 1D MarkIII when it was brand new, and the best sports cam you could buy.
When changing to HIGH FRAME RATE - that is a huge issue. This needs to be changed. I wish there was a way to disable 1080p camera wide (on the R5 for example).
How does the the new R6 handle super low light scenarios? Will it detect the eye or even face near pitch black lighting conditions (ie: night time wedding reception/ club) without using the camera's internal assist beam? Does the Mk II pairs well with current flash units, executing proper flash unit's assist beams? I've been told current flash units generally don't sit too well with current mirrorless cameras [even when exposure simulation is turned off]. Please advise?
Wouldn't it have been nice to have a combined off/photo/video switch on the left side and maybe put a dedicated exposure comp dial where the power switch is on the right?
Will the BG-R10battery grip work on the R6 M2? There is a new flash and remote trigger designed for a new flash shoe. Is it compatible with the Canon 600RT flash and ST-E3-RT TRIGGER? Thank you.
Great review!! Does it remember faces? If my subject is dancing in a group of people, can it remember to keep only my subject in focus at all times? And how would I set this up? Thanks.
I'm still seeing IBIS wobble. I also laugh that reviewers are thrown off by moving the on/off buttons since the R5 and R6 are the first cams to have that on the left side and it's only been 2 years since they came out. It's still far better than the A7IV though. Even the R6 was better as the Sony had only around 5 FPS in electronic shutter uncompressed, really bad LCD, and highly cropped 4K60. I also noticed the dynamic range on the R6 was better as you could recover shadows with less noise and high ISO noise was slightly better on the R6. The 20 MP could easily be upscaled in ACR to match the A7IV and often looked sharper (the difference was more up to the lens being used).
Many thanks for great review. Can you please advise me on the best camera for travelling, shooting video without limits in 30min, stabilizer, excellent portrait photography and street photography? 🙏The best and compact that is on the market. About the budget, I have no limits, but I don't want to overpay for something I don't need. Since one of the needs is to use the camera when travelling, I don't want the camera to be too big and heavy. When travelling I will be photographing architecture in cities, my wife, landscapes and quite a lot of video. I choose between Canon and Sony, so far the choice has stopped on Canon R6 mark2 or Sony 6700. Thank you all very much in advance
No option for autofocus lenses from, among others, Sigma and Tamron makes it a No Go camera system, so if you're just a little smart, look at other camera systems instead. It's sad, but it's the truth that makes it a limited camera system!
Unfortunately the new hot shoe does not work with Broncolor transmitter RFS 2.1 because the side contacts due to the changed shape of the shoe have lost connection.
Great honest review. I have one question I’m hoping you could answer for the video side. Can you set custom video modes for video now? With the toggle on the left side does that mean that custom modes can be for both photo AND video. Previous model could only set custom dial for photo and I hated it. Same problem you guys had in that when switching video modes there was no way to get back to frequently used settings. I sold my R6 for this reason, even professionals forget to set perfect settings. Need those custom modes.
Dan Watts said in his review that the 180fps 1080p video quality was great and he could mix it with 4K without visible difference in detail. Chris saying here the quality is not great. Now which is it?
Completely agree. Not allowing 3rd-party is extremely short-sighted on their part. 3rd-party lenses aren't just about the price, but also availability of certain focal lengths or apertures.
If they lose enough customers they will think differently on third party lenses. I sold my R6 for the A7IV after it was reported that they told manufacturers to quit making RF glass. So many good options 3rd party on the Sony and no more lugging around an ef to rf adapter.
Thanks for the honest review Jordan. I was waiting for this new camera ... but I'm not going to get it if they haven't fixed those niggles. I love the size and grip, but I'll go another route if they don't fix them by production time.
just makes the overall length a bit more, otherwise works fine and if you get the adapter with the variable ND you are all set for video out of the gate
This is looking like a really solid camera finally. Those video niggles are frustrating, but at least they can be easily fixed via firmware....if they can be bothered. That's the hardest bit. Getting Canon to care about their customers!
@@danieldiggs9574 Yes. Unfortunately it's a bit shortsighted for a company to ignore their customers, because if they do for too long, they will walk away, along with their cash.
@@mdhazeldine I left the camera scene about 5 years ago. I got insane with GAS buying digital and film up. All I have left is my uncle's film camera and I'm not going back to film due to high cost. I'm thinking of getting the Fuji X100. I had Canon, Ricoh and the Fuji XT-1. The camera prices are insane. I was looking this weekend. I may just look for a canon rebel or used 5d and get a plastic 50 1.8
While this is a very lucrative upgrade from the R6 that I bought just 4 months ago. I think I'd rather invest on RF lenses and/or video tools for now. I already built and used a R6+Atomos ecosystem and it worked for my use case. I might consider this after a few years or maybe the R5 Mark 2 by then? I'll be honest that this release made me feel a wee bit bad that I only missed the Mark 2 a couple months😅
Hello, I saw the video on the Canon R6mk ii and as usual very professional and comprehensive. Thank you very much. One thing that wasn't mentioned and I wanted to know is the Hotshoe issue fixed? In the first model it was a very big deal, it's all about the network that there was a flaw in Canon's design and everyone encountered the fact that the flash just started to fall off the camera because everything falls apart there. Had to send a new camera for repair, and it is necessary to disassemble half of the camera to fix it (unlike previous models). That's why I didn't buy this camera in the end. I asked you, was this issue fixed in the R6 mkii model? Thank you very much for your answer, Gilad.
I really respect how you aren’t afraid to be highly critical of a release even though canon obviously won’t like that when you’re on a trip like this. Shows the integrity of this channel
Canon SHOULD like it. Constructive criticism is an absolutely essential part of product development in the long term.
Maybe Canon won't like it but they won't be surprised, that's for sure.
to be honest it much worst if you use sony A7iv or Nikon Z6ii when it comes to same situations,.
Canon needs to step it the fuck up something serious.
Canon is aware that DPreview can not lean in favor of any camera brand because they need to advertise for revenue. I rather have reviews from real photographers.
Really good video and I respect the honesty! The main take away from the video is that majority of the "new features" could have been given to the R6 Mark 1 on a firmware update 👍🏼
The processing pipeline of the R6 II seems to be faster (reduced rolling shutter) & more efficient (less heating and significantly longer battery life from the same battery), so many improvements would have needed that. However, I agree that things like false colour could easily have been added via firmware updates. But then, this is Canon we're talking about... the company that has perfected the art of giving the least (features/ capability) for the most (amount of money).
Hmm, more resolution due to a sensor update, hardware changes such as buttons and layout, evf, I don't think the primary new features were possible via firmware.
No they couldn't have. The better auto focus is because of the new sensor, etc. I strongly recommend watching other videos regarding this camera. It has been pretty universally praised and I'm not sure if they're aware of the tone here, but it is coming off as a bit overly critical especially when they're remarking Sony as having "stickier" AF when even the new A7RV has reportedly worse AF than even the original R5. The auto focus intelligence here is the new AF and is based on the R3's AF intelligence. For video, it has Detect Only AF, in which the camera will stop autofocusing if the subject its tracking leaves the frame. This avoids awkward or disruptive focus hunting during recording in situations where the camera would typically lose focus and then hunt around trying to reacquire focus. The R6 II also includes a new Movie Digital IS for enhanced image stabilization for handheld video, as well as built-in webcam support.
I am not sure if they didn't test this mode or if it was because of the pre-production--but the detect only should not be hunting. Nevertheless, as Canon often does, I am sure there will be quite a few firmware releases that fix any hunting issues. Stuff like that can be done with a firmware update. Trying to get more than a sensor can handle is never going to work without, well, a new sensor.
The sensor also outperforms its specs, can record externally at 6k RAW, is oversampled @ 6k, and supports internal recording of up to 4:2:2 10-bit. It can shoot 180 FPS in 1080p which is huge for the occasional super slow b-roll,
@@hsjawanda Meanwhile Sony won't even give basic features found in low end cameras to their very high end cameras like the A7SIII in firmware. The A7RV is just the A7RIV with firmware updates and new LCD. Sony is the stingiest camera company out there when it comes to firmware. The way Canon revolutionized the R5 with firmware updates (removing overheating, adding Clog3, adding new video codecs) I'd say Canon is one of the most generous when it comes to firmware updates.
I said this in a video and got crucified…then went and bought it anyways lol
Another solid review guys, thanks, and you are so right about needing those Ds on the enable and disable - they've caught me out too many times!
LOVE the way you're addressing any new piece of equipment, always saying what you like and what you didn't like, regardless of marketing phrases used to promote it. That's why I always watch your reviews and I don't bother with others. HUGE respect from Serbia!
A lot of people speculated that we'd get to see the R mk.II this year, but with the launch of the R6 mk.II, I guess the R was frankly only the pilot model of the EOS R line up. I'm personally surprised to see the R6 mk.II this early, only a little over 2 years from the mk.I. It's quite an incremental but worthy update given no raises in the launch price.
I'm sure some of the new features can be ported to the mk.I thru firmware update, it's just that Canon isn't known for being a generous company.
All of that being said, I'm quite happy with the launch. This means the R6 mk.I will go down in price and I can (probably) afford a used one.
dang the wobble in the corners is still there thank God, I was worried they would do something crazy like correct it or something like that, but I'm glad they're more video oriented with the addition of false color and still having the video tools removed off the screen when you press record, everything we love is there, if it is broke, don't fix it, right Canon ?
The wobble is due to IBIS, the only way to fix is just rely on lens or digital IS
@@zegzbrutal the whole comment was me being sarcastic 😅 but thanks for explaining
apologies for being too serious 🙈
@@zegzbrutal lol no worries 😂
@@zegzbrutal The problem is that the IBIS also tilts the sensor, rather than only moving it along the flat plane. I wish manufacturers would make an option to have IBIS in video only be 2-axis instead of 5-axis, that would solve this issue.
5:16 that is an absolutely 🔥🔥🔥 sequence 👍
I wonder why Jordan didn’t mention about face only focus in video, I guess it’s very important for videographers
The canon colours always beautiful... what a pleasant to look at
Mark 2 already?
Man I can't keep it up at this pace, or I just enjoying photography in a different way, lol.
Otherwise, thank you for your work👍
Canon could release R6 mark i and mark ii while Nikon released no camera at all.... Just feel lucky ;)
Yeah, I had to do a double take and look up the old release date when I saw this. The original R6 is only a little over two years old.
Yeah it’s definitely nuts but good. Even if you don’t need it. Great to see innovation. Plus it’ll make sure that used market stays stocked up. Only thing that matters is you get what works for you.
@@romainplagnol882 ,i suspect my 6 years old d750 sensor could take same quality pictures. Dont wanna put in discusion the z6 with its BSI sensor.
@@planetfun85 I know but what about eye tracking AF on the d750?
I have d780 and in Live View it pretty sucks..
So it's much better in stills (pre-burst, great rolling shutter), but on the video side the Canon Cripple Hammer is still active.
A7IV vs 6D Mark II comparison at 14:06 lol.
Seriously though, great video! Nice early morning surprise.
I've notice virtually every review has people stumbling and calling this the 6D or C6 or something incorrect. Fro did it too.
As an R6 owner, I feel like this is what the first gen should've been. They should've just delayed the release till after A7IV.
Canon always doing that. If they make R6 mk1 this good, no one want to buy R5 except 8K video shooters.
Yeah this is definitely what I wanted in Mark 1.
@@hoatd1993 There are plenty of people (photographers) who would buy R5 just for the 45mpixel. Some people also love the top screen on R5. It also allows you to have the LCD on while connected to external monitor. It also does All-I in video. I think the target audience is different enough for them to both exist. But that’s just my opinion.
Thank you for this video. I’ve watched others with big channels make it sound like this camera is perfect. I appreciate the unbiased review.
Or the other way around perhaps 🤔. Have you thought of that…
@@Davitor1 nope. Because it was only one person making it sound perfect. But I’ve watched a few reviews pointing out pros and cons.
Please note if you are shooting ISO400+ there is no loss in using 12 bit RAW. You can do a comparison between 14 bit RAW and 12 bit RAW at say ISO 800 and the last two bits aren't encoding usable data, basically read noise. For sports and wildlife it's not often one can use lower ISOs to gain the benefit of 14 bit RAW.
11:30 I think this is solved by lowering the Movie Servo AF Tracking Sensitivity. It makes the AF more "sticky" and doesn't jump to other subjects if lowered. By default this is set too high in my opinion.
Great update, 24mpx, 4k60 no crop, 40fps with less rolling shutter
I am flabbergasted. The R is in dire need of an update. It's in the heart of the FF MILC market and is outgunned by the A7III/Z6II. R6/R3 and now R6II seem incredibly redundant. I had an EOS R for a while but when I saw where Canon was heading I got out.
05:45-05:56 That wobble come is really strong :-o
Wobbling?
Tracking AF?
10 bit only in clog ?
IPB codecs ONLY?
RF lenses only?
Micro Hdmi?
Canon, where you think you going?
Cool camera, nice features.🥳
Good review, would love to see you guys do some low light shooting instead of broad daylight.
Gordon Laing has given this new camera a good initial review, definitely aimed at the a7iv competition giving it a run for its money. Worth a watch.
Not hard to beat the A7IV. Sony has average lenses and so-so AF. Canon R6 Mark II destroys A7IV!
Selfishly glad this isn’t earth shatteringly better than the r6 since I just bought mine this summer
I'm gonna have to wait for electronic shutter banding tests under LED light, but I'm not holding my breath since it isn't a stacked sensor. Looks like I'll be sticking with my R6 for now.
I thought so, too, but it's not necessary, nor is it the best way to avoid banding to have a stacked sensor. I debated getting an a9 II for the readout speed, but when I had an a7 IV loaner in, I realized that it has a feature to micro adjust shutter speed. With this you can completely eliminate any banding under any light by simply selecting the shutter speed at which it disappears. Case and point, I recently shot an event with the a7 IV and a9 (mark 1) and when I got the files into lightroom I saw banding in the a9 shots because of the terrible lighting, but not in the a7 IV files.
you are my trusted channel.
greetings from California
Just pre-ordered it with the 24-105mm f4.
I am most impressed by the runners with amputated legs kind of puts things in perspective
At last a return to location camera launches! Always more interesting than talking head vids!
Good review. The Enable thing drives me crazy. I’m glad you mentioned it. Enabled would make it clear. I hope Canon listens.
Two words
Bloody Expensive!!
Good sports pictures
That CLOG3 footage looks really good
Always cool to see more cameras, hopefully canon fans are pleased with it!
I just read that Canon has added some "artificial sharpness optimizer" to the R6 mark ii to counteract the effects of the low pass filter, which is a shame in my opinion. The Canon R6 and R5 have this stunning cinematic quality in their photo's, I find that this quality and feel is missing in the R6 Mark ii images. I too thought that the clinically sharp, almost lifeless, empty and artificial look was caused by removing the low pass filter. But it seems it is caused by some artificial sharpening system. It is especially noticeable and disturbing while shooting people/portraits. I will definitely keep my original R6, as I feel it has the perfect look and balance while the R6 mark ii does not give me the look I want and feels a bit like a failed experiment with the (overly) artificial sharpness.
You guys are impeccable in your review ❤
this upgrade was due for long time as this model EOS R6 was not positioned well. I guess that with these small changes, EOS R 6II might become useful tool if offered at more competitive price.
The battery life seems amazing
Wish they put a 30 megapixel sensor in this. 24 megapixels was the standard 5 years ago.
I guess Canon published this Camera because of supply optimization or something like this. This updated version only advances in minor steps. So there's something more behind it. My guess they had no old R6 chips anymore.
Best bit bit seems to be the overheating seems completely gone, a huge update imo.
What's minor about 40 fps with really good rolling shutter and oversampled 4k60p with zero crop? Can you name another camera that can do the same in this price bracket?
@@Mark-in6ze right,i think people didn't really try to digest that part
@@Mark-in6ze The Fujifilm xh2s can do that. It's crop sensor for sure but it can do both very well.
Can't wait for R5 MK2!!!
I'm in mental anguish! You guys and your SAN DIEGO trip! You should be testing such equipment here on the western Canadian snow filled prairies. C'mon guys... You are both hearty folk! Am I right? 😉
4:49 aaand there went my coffee over my keyboard.
Jordan I believe there is a setting to stop the focus drifting to the background - this setting is specific to the R6 II
Face-only detection 👍👍👍
@@CanonEurope "face-only detection" is just an excuse for the camera not being able to lock on and track the target; you don't need that with sony real-time tracking.
That 28-70mm f2 lens is a weapon.
All the "major" complaints at the end are software based. They could easily fix them with firmware. But they won't. Because with Canon - they can. But won't.
In other aspects, I kinda wonder if I jumped the gun switching to Sony now....
You’ll be surprised many people complained about Sony firmware limbo as well for their flagship lines
My Sony A7IV came in yesterday.... Made the switch because the R6 had 30 minute record limits and overheating problems. Of course the R6 Mark 2 gets announced the day after with those problems solved. I have so much invested in Canon glass. I'm not sure if I need to return the Sony or not
Does the R6 Mk 2 allow saving customized video (C1,2,3,) or at least to allow setting a default such as 4K 24 vs. the 1080 resolution it defaults back to after shooting stills. Perhaps there is a way to do this but I never found it on the R6.
Canon forever!
Chris, I know it’s a bit of an odd request, but could you try subject detection with horses when you test a camera? I’d love it :)
Any chance the 1080p modes are oversampled too?
"Good news! The EOS R6 Mark II was released today."
Everybody else: Anyways.
Very honest video, informative, to the point. I am still looking for a good back up sports camera but don't want to spend the dough on the R3. Not sure this is it yet.
No All-i, no 10 bit 4.2.2 in standard mode. 🤦🏽 Does it have aperture priority for video?
I didn’t expect a Canon R6 Mark II that soon…
I’ve just uploaded a video on how I’ve (almost) got rid of the overheating issue on the R6 😅
Handheld IBIS is lacking in video it looks like, fantastic that they added false color to this though. Would love that in any camera.
Still better than Sony.
I cannot comprehend how a company can have menu text that is LITERALLY INCORRECT. Seriously Canon?
1. You have a wobbling background in some parts of this video. Probably because of in-body-IS?
2. There's an abundance of light in this video. Think you just dont need full-frame, could go with MFT or APS-C easily on those days. (Yes, you were testing - i know) 😃😎
3. Most important: thanks a lot for your super rapid (p)review.
We need your D, Canon!!!
Love watching these late night videos. I got BSI stacked wrong, but at least got the time right. The R6 Mark 2 is what the Mark 1 should have been. Much better video specs. Glad to have your thoughts on this Jordan! False colour is nice, 6K 4K is nice and Canon Log 3. And removed record limit from 30 minutes to 6 hours. Good video guys
Yeah, your source was completely wrong about the BSI Stacked sensor being confirmed. Cant wait to see your follow up.
Really interesting how different the directions are that Canon and Sony are taking with their respective "entry level" full frame models. They compete in the same price bracket but now offer pretty different things.
Why everyone insist this 2k USD price range is entry level. Sony has a7C+a6xxx+ZV-E10 for entry, Canon has RP+R10+R7...
@@zegzbrutal This is definitely not entry level for hobbyists. But for people doing paid gigs, this is entry level.
@@blackbugmedia I'm used to seeing paid gigs use sub 1500USD cameras and still get the job done nicely. I could not understand people on RUclips has that mind set of only 2000+ USD cameras will be able to do the job.
Modern camera are so capable, only users' skill is the biggest limitation.
@@zegzbrutal Yeah, the best photographers I know actually use entry level cams. And the R6/II are around $3400 plus tax here in Canada so definitely not entry level. I paid $4300 for my 1D MarkIII when it was brand new, and the best sports cam you could buy.
@@zegzbrutal Lol. This is so true. You can view/read about expensive cameras & all will be referred to as entry level models.
When changing to HIGH FRAME RATE - that is a huge issue. This needs to be changed. I wish there was a way to disable 1080p camera wide (on the R5 for example).
Talks about burst and buffer right 6:54 after a diver. Couldn't have more relevant synchronisation.
The images were bright and tack sharp. This is the first Canon camera that I actually liked.👍
How does the the new R6 handle super low light scenarios? Will it detect the eye or even face near pitch black lighting conditions (ie: night time wedding reception/ club) without using the camera's internal assist beam? Does the Mk II pairs well with current flash units, executing proper flash unit's assist beams? I've been told current flash units generally don't sit too well with current mirrorless cameras [even when exposure simulation is turned off]. Please advise?
Damn!! San Diego!? I could’ve met you guys!!!! AGGHHHH!
Wouldn't it have been nice to have a combined off/photo/video switch on the left side and maybe put a dedicated exposure comp dial where the power switch is on the right?
00:33 -> Ok, is that Dan watson ?
4:50 Canon needs to give out what now? 🤣 Nice video.
""Welcome back DPRTVTVRPTV viewers'' 🤤
Great Review
What about the dynamic range and low light noise?
This is what I'm curious about.
Will the BG-R10battery grip work on the R6 M2? There is a new flash and remote trigger designed for a new flash shoe. Is it compatible with the Canon 600RT flash and ST-E3-RT TRIGGER? Thank you.
Great review!! Does it remember faces? If my subject is dancing in a group of people, can it remember to keep only my subject in focus at all times? And how would I set this up? Thanks.
I'm still seeing IBIS wobble.
I also laugh that reviewers are thrown off by moving the on/off buttons since the R5 and R6 are the first cams to have that on the left side and it's only been 2 years since they came out.
It's still far better than the A7IV though. Even the R6 was better as the Sony had only around 5 FPS in electronic shutter uncompressed, really bad LCD, and highly cropped 4K60. I also noticed the dynamic range on the R6 was better as you could recover shadows with less noise and high ISO noise was slightly better on the R6. The 20 MP could easily be upscaled in ACR to match the A7IV and often looked sharper (the difference was more up to the lens being used).
Nice. And y’all didn’t even get Fro bombed.
Have you heard when Canon will be coming out with a new R5 ll that does not overheat?
i kind of like that shutter sound while in electronic shutter mode. I wonder if that can be implemented in an update on the OG R6.
Many thanks for great review. Can you please advise me on the best camera for travelling, shooting video without limits in 30min, stabilizer, excellent portrait photography and street photography? 🙏The best and compact that is on the market.
About the budget, I have no limits, but I don't want to overpay for something I don't need. Since one of the needs is to use the camera when travelling, I don't want the camera to be too big and heavy. When travelling I will be photographing architecture in cities, my wife, landscapes and quite a lot of video. I choose between Canon and Sony, so far the choice has stopped on Canon R6 mark2 or Sony 6700.
Thank you all very much in advance
Canon EOS R6 camera!
No option for autofocus lenses from, among others, Sigma and Tamron makes it a No Go camera system, so if you're just a little smart, look at other camera systems instead. It's sad, but it's the truth that makes it a limited camera system!
Canon R6 Mark ii and Canon R7 combined would be great
Unfortunately the new hot shoe does not work with Broncolor transmitter RFS 2.1 because the side contacts due to the changed shape of the shoe have lost connection.
What about the C1, C2, C3 functions, does they finally works for video ?? Nice video btw
Great honest review. I have one question I’m hoping you could answer for the video side. Can you set custom video modes for video now? With the toggle on the left side does that mean that custom modes can be for both photo AND video. Previous model could only set custom dial for photo and I hated it. Same problem you guys had in that when switching video modes there was no way to get back to frequently used settings. I sold my R6 for this reason, even professionals forget to set perfect settings. Need those custom modes.
yes, custom video modes have been mentioned in other videos.
Dan Watts said in his review that the 180fps 1080p video quality was great and he could mix it with 4K without visible difference in detail. Chris saying here the quality is not great. Now which is it?
Seems like a really good camera, a sweet spot for all that I need. Hopefully Canon will solve their 3rd party lenses issue...
Hear hear!
Completely agree. Not allowing 3rd-party is extremely short-sighted on their part. 3rd-party lenses aren't just about the price, but also availability of certain focal lengths or apertures.
If they lose enough customers they will think differently on third party lenses. I sold my R6 for the A7IV after it was reported that they told manufacturers to quit making RF glass. So many good options 3rd party on the Sony and no more lugging around an ef to rf adapter.
Does subject detect priority work in video mode? Maybe that would fix the problem of losing focus on a face?
I think they missed that option, I think they were both just tired.
FINALLY!!!! I have been waiting so long for this. OG R6 bout to be marginally cheaper😁😁😁😁
In Canada the R6 is $3099 on sale and the R6 II is $3399.
@@77dris LOL
Thanks for the honest review Jordan. I was waiting for this new camera ... but I'm not going to get it if they haven't fixed those niggles. I love the size and grip, but I'll go another route if they don't fix them by production time.
Sounds all nice, but not be able to use native RF lenses from third-party lens manufacturerss is a big nono for most people.
You didn't talk about AF points or servo or IBS...????
What would be the downside of using my EF len's with an adapter opposed to native RF len's? I'd hate to have to start over with lens purchases.
It worked fine when I had the R6 just have to deal with always having an adapter on.
just makes the overall length a bit more, otherwise works fine and if you get the adapter with the variable ND you are all set for video out of the gate
What is new and what is the best new feature? Why did they not improve the focus system?
Sony innovates. Canon… holds out features and takes your money.
Yes !!
This is looking like a really solid camera finally. Those video niggles are frustrating, but at least they can be easily fixed via firmware....if they can be bothered. That's the hardest bit. Getting Canon to care about their customers!
Congrats ❤️
Businesses will never care about the customer. They only care about your cash. That's how they will care about the customer if the cash stops.
@@danieldiggs9574 Yes. Unfortunately it's a bit shortsighted for a company to ignore their customers, because if they do for too long, they will walk away, along with their cash.
@@mdhazeldine I left the camera scene about 5 years ago. I got insane with GAS buying digital and film up. All I have left is my uncle's film camera and I'm not going back to film due to high cost. I'm thinking of getting the Fuji X100. I had Canon, Ricoh and the Fuji XT-1. The camera prices are insane. I was looking this weekend. I may just look for a canon rebel or used 5d and get a plastic 50 1.8
While this is a very lucrative upgrade from the R6 that I bought just 4 months ago. I think I'd rather invest on RF lenses and/or video tools for now. I already built and used a R6+Atomos ecosystem and it worked for my use case. I might consider this after a few years or maybe the R5 Mark 2 by then? I'll be honest that this release made me feel a wee bit bad that I only missed the Mark 2 a couple months😅
You tuber " hey what do you do for a living"
Chris nicolls " i take crotch shots of long jumpers"
You tuber " thats whats up"
5:58 auto focus is like old LUMIX! JUNK!
Hello, I saw the video on the Canon R6mk ii and as usual very professional and comprehensive. Thank you very much. One thing that wasn't mentioned and I wanted to know is the Hotshoe issue fixed? In the first model it was a very big deal, it's all about the network that there was a flaw in Canon's design and everyone encountered the fact that the flash just started to fall off the camera because everything falls apart there. Had to send a new camera for repair, and it is necessary to disassemble half of the camera to fix it (unlike previous models). That's why I didn't buy this camera in the end. I asked you, was this issue fixed in the R6 mkii model? Thank you very much for your answer, Gilad.
i just don't get it why canon isn't fixing the small details Jordan is talking about does anybody knows the reason?