Tilt with a flip-out is an excellent feature - you get the option to flip the screen out while still allowing for centralised tilt when using a gimbal. Best of both worlds.
@@weplaywax Not at all, indeed for filming fast motion sports like skateboarding external monitors are of limited use due to latency issues - the image on the external monitor is typically about half a second behind the action. That's not the case with the on-camera screen. The two videos on my channel were filmed using an A7III on a Weebill S gimbal. No external monitor.
Yeah, I like this screen! Sadly that's really the only thing about this camera worthy of note. The R5 is still a better camera and it's nearly 3 years old.
@@77dris You make a reasonable point. However, when lenses are also considered the Sony is a far more appealing. Sony's lens range alone is arguably superior to Canon's RF range, then there's the huge number of native third party E mount lenses. I wouldn't even consider buying or recommending Canon anymore.
amazing screen design, centralized tilt is awesome I don't like looking to the side of the camera when screen flipped out for simple low/high shots,,,,,,btw isn't R5 suppose to be compared to A1?
They had it on the A77ii and the A99ii, the first of which was released more than 7 years ago, the only difference seems to be that the hinge was underneath instead of on the outside, so the screen stayed behind the camera. Why it took so long to bring back this obviously better solution baffles me, but I'm glad they finally saw the light!
@@MuhammadKharismawan ???? Edit: Aah, I get what you're saying now, they were worried about the extra bulk/thickness this design adds to the back of the camera. Yeah, you're probably right, although I think that was a silly choice it's likely one of the reasons why they didn't use it.
@@weplaywax the irony of this comment is that the s1r did not have the exact same mechanisim. I had an S1 it had the same mechanism as s1r: they were flip. If you were talking about the S1H, yeah it came out and it was bulky and couldn’t flip down. Sony didn’t invent the 4 axis flip/articulating screen but it did make it thinner and add the ability to tilt down. Not “revolutionary” but its a step in the right direction
Hello from Scotland! I stopped and took some photos of the Nanton buildings a few years ago on a random road trip. Been watching you guys for years this was great to see again!
You were fooled by a bee-mimic at 8:39! That is actually a common drone fly (eristalis tenax). It looks like a bee so that other creatures give it the respect that an insect with a stinger deserves, but it is actually harmless.
Doing the same thing they did with the R II and R III -- keeping the same sensor while improving everything else -- was the right choice. As good as the R IV is, having the old menus, buffer rates, etc. on such a high-end model was kind of a drag. The sensor is fine, everything else was overdue for an update.
Yeah I was disappointed the R4 didn't get the S3 treatment but I am sticking with it. There isn't enough in this to make me upgrade from the R4 to the R5.
I use the A1, which also has video "issues" at full-frame. Its 8K mode is terrific with no significant rolling shutter thanks to the stacked sensor, but the 4K FF modes are horrible. I therefore shoot much of my video in S35, and I added a 10-20 F/4 PZ G to my kit for wide shots. It's an optically solid little lens, and I imagine that it would also be an excellent option for A7RV users that want to shoot wide-angle video. It's also really convenient on a gimbal (extremely compact, power zoom, no CG shift when zooming).
NIce to see they've (finally) brought back the flip screen from the A77! Hopefully that carries over to other new models but I'll be waiting a while since I just got the A7RIV a few months ago
I am one who loves still shots. I'm not much of one for videos. This looks incredible with the improved and unique features to be the boss of stills. I love my R3, but this just goes above and beyond. Nice review and thanks for being honest about its pros and cons.
Sounds great, especially the articulated screen and AI focus imo. The big thing I miss for wildlife is pre-buffered shooting, like OM’s “Procapture.” My suggestion: could you guys do an episode about pre-buffering, in particular how & why it works for OM and others but doesn’t seem possible for Sony? Gotta be a reason, maybe even a good story there. Keep up the great work, thanks!
Thank you for the detail review on this camera. Love the Hi-Rez VF and tilt/flip out/rotate LCD screen. I will wait for the A7 V or A1 II has before making my A7 IV as a backup camera though.
Nice video guys, thanks! After talking about the high res mode I was expecting to see that background man smoothed out? A smoother sound mix and I'm a fan of the end music fade-up. (funny reverb on the bench shot?)
Your review was great, enough detailed photos and videos to prove your point. I like the camera. However, is there any other brands that are close to this models performance? That bit of protective would have made this review perfect. Still great work, you guys know your stuff!
THE FLIP OUR SCREEN IS PERFECT NOW!!! CANNOT WAIT FOR THIS TO BE IMPLEMENTED ON NEW CAMERAS! THE CAMERA STORE IN CALGARY IS STILL THE BEST PLACE FOR YOUR NEEDS IN ALBERTA!
Thank you for this super good walkthrough! Shopping for a Canon R5 replacement and though this one seems nice it doesn’t match the video capabilities on the R5 😊
Thanks for another great video! Personally, I don't need the new tilt screen, but I do wish they had given it a much higher fps for stills. With some second-hand A1s showing up on the market now, I was waiting to see if the A7RV would have some of the speed of the A1. Do love the new auto-focus capabilities though. Might have to get myself an A1 and an A7R V.
Great review!! Argh, so torn between the A7RV and the A1! I'm more portraits and landscape rather than fast moving sports and wildlife. Will the image quality be better on the A1?
Thanks Chris! I'm peacefully returning to my Lumix S5, with my entire kit built out in 2500 USD (going to 3500 with the 100-400 or 70-300 Zoom soon). This is a fantastic camera, but you could probably get by with a used a7R 3 + new a7 IV at this price point, and have the best of all worlds :)
I love the flip out screen. For now I'll stick with my A7R4, especially since spouse bought me a new iPhone 14 Pro. Seeing the need for a camera less and less. Though, I confess, I do love my three Sony G Master lenses. Well, someday I'll upgrade.
Not worth upgrading from a previous generation body. But as someone switching systems, especially for me from a 15 year old Olympus kit, I am in heaven jumping into Full Frame with Sony at this time. The AF tech is just phenomenal, the EVF best in class, 8-stop IBIS, focus stacking, 200+MP stills and massive resolution at 10FPS all give me extreme flexibility and ease of use. Yes I wish it had a speedy electronic shutter option at lower resolutions but fwiw I think it offers incredible value over the 50MP A1 cost $2000 more.
@@munrostrachan4294 no. I got it because I have plenty of FW50 for my ZV-E10. I would still suggest save a bit more and go more Nikon Z7(first gen) as a minimum.
I applaud Sony for addressing most of the A7RIV issues and make a good camera even better, despite the hefty price tag. It also leaves me wondering how great the S1/S1R/S1H could be if only Panasonic had the clarity of mind to add phase detect… Almost all the great things we like in the A7RV were already addressed in 2019 by Panasonic in an even sturdier package with better handling and better color management. If only the AF-C and tracking…
@Jacob, I had the S1H and sold it to a friend for the same reason you mentioned. If you look at all the companies that died or dying like Nokia, Yahoo, AOL, HP, Xerox, RIMM or Blackberry, etc etc, they all had one common denominator, stubborn to a fault. And didn’t focused on staying relevant but focused on a strong belief of being right and therefore stubborn until being obsolete. I loved the colors of Pana even more than Canon and all the tech and video assist tools but the af system was tough to deal with as a one man crew. Sure all the manual focus guys would hang their hat on that real cinema cams uses manual but out of context when you have focus pullers and a big crew and budget. It reminds of the grandparents giving history lessons of walking 10mi+ in snow and even with cars we should walk. Yeah sure! Embrace competition as if you don’t, they have no problem taking your customers away and customers who are discerning, will make the choice that’s best for them. Good to see Sony and Canon duking it out and now Nikon is catching up. Hope Pana gets pass this hump and concede to the hybrid af system that all 3 players have shifted too
I felt Panasonic presented a strong entry into full frame mirrorless. AF was a big issue from the get-go and everyone knew this and as far as I can tell, was willing to give Panasonic a chance if they made an attempt to integrate phase detect AF in future iterations of the S-series. But they stated they had no plans to do so. Seeing this, and seeing how important AF would be in high performance, low-man environments, myself and many others sold our S cameras and jumped ship. It was a painful financial choice to let go of such a promising system. But I feel I'm in a much better place with the Sony system.
@@DapperArtImagery I agree was a very painful exercise letting go of my S1 and S1R and took a huge loss doing so...if only the AF performed it would have been my perfect camera, miss the handling, ergos and colours, my sonys are blehhh by comparison
@@DapperArtImagery I hope Panasonic will start using phase AF on next gen, body design is great / good weather resistance right? / seem rugged / awesome stabilization, overall too many good things going there - just need better AF & then it will be a good alternative to Sony
Well I came to Sony for a vast choice of great lenses. Since I shoot essentially stills of models I chose the A7RIIIa to get me by. The only real regret is the EVF is not great. Some said the RIV was not much better, yet when I tried the A1, I knew immediately that I had to have this type of EVF. So thanks Sony. I also saw the shutter has a 500000 MTBF which is better for me. Lat Canon I sold had >400K and is still going.
For me - landscape, occasional wildlife & street photographer - this has the features I'm missing in my A7Riii. Focus stacking and the multi-axis screen are huge in terms of actual usage and enjoyment of shooting with the camera. They might seem trivial things compared to the autofocus and resolution. Seriously, and this might sound bizarre, if the A7RV had had a normal swivel screen like the A7IV I would not be saving like mad for it.
I've had the a7R III and the a6 series since 2017 since 2019 and it's been in constant use, but I can't say that I've really enjoyed using it. Produced great results but definitely wasn't enjoyable throughout. Still, can't really beat Sony for bang for the buck, especially if you use third-party lenses. Been following their releases to see what's been improved with each generation and the A1 had me hopeful but cautious (given that it's a halo product). Looks like this addressed the major pain points (poor responsiveness, poor back LCD resolution, tilt-only back LCD, no lossless compressed, uneven SD card slots, awful menus, button and dial issues, etc). Wish it hadn't taken them so long, but looks like they've finally fixed those long-time issues. Looking forward to purchasing this on the used market once prices go down.
At this point in my life, I'm sure that A7RM4 will be last the camera I own. But I strongly recommend this camera to youngsters because they'll enjoy using it just as I'm enjoying my A7RM4. For me, the only feature that I could be jealous of would be that fully articulating backscreen. 📷
What kind of youngster has that kind of money laying around these days? LOL Sorry but thats silly, its too pricey for most but those who are born to rich daddies or have a photography job.
This may be an evolution of the iv, but it seems like a damn good evolution. Some of the issues like the screen tilt or painful menu design weren't directly related to camera quality, but they definitely mattered for actually using the thing.
I agree that the new multi-angle/position flip-out screen would also have been very nice to have had on the FX30 also. Perhaps Sony's thinking that was video/cinematographers will add a monitor anyway and decided to keep the cost down by using a simpler version. If that were the case, I do wish that Sony would realise that we use a second monitor because the ones on Sony cameras are low in resolution and/or too small to get critical focus when using manual focus. I would much prefer to see a decent monitor on the camera itself than having to add a second monitor that is cumbersome, adds weight and is a faff regardless of how small or wonderful they may be! I do appreciate that the monitor size is camera size dependent.
The video concludes saying this is a great camera for stills shooting in studio and landscape environments... I'm looking to upgrade from my old and dying D750 as my main stills shooter, does this mean this camera won't perform as well in all regards as say an old used D750? I shoot long exposure, landscape, portraiture, low light, all Linds of available light stuff, etc. The added video capabilities to pair with my a7s2 as a B-cam is just a bonus for me 👍
That screen tilt mechanizm looking like in old Sony A77 😁It was so good that I was in impression it will be Sony standard for all cameras since. By the way A7R V looking like decent piece of body.
Good stuff, many thanks. I do have one question though: Since silent shooting isn't really a runner how noisy is the shutter, say compared to the other high-MP bodies (A1,Z9, Z7II,R5,S1R)?
So I have an a1 just for stills, couldn't care less about video, love the EVF, has the simple flip screen, has focus mode dials on the left side, all great stuff. Was hoping if these features appeared on the RV and it had a 90mp sensor, I might switch over. Now it seems like this is very much like the A7IV, where they throw in the new processor and buff up the video features, which I don't care about at all. The improved IBIS is great that alone isn't going to make it an upgrade from the a1. Guess will have to wait for the a1 mk2
Kudos to Sony, especially on that multi-axis screen. They actually anticipated the possible complaints and took care of that right out of the gate! As a still photographer I love the convenient simple old tilt feature on my Rii and I was afraid of losing that if I upgraded. 😃
I've watched a lot of reviews on this camera (this one is fantastic btw) Some say it's great for action, others don't. I'm upgrading from an entry level Canon t6i and my focus is mainly on fast action dog sports, dogs running and some portraits. Would it be worth it for me to invest in this camera or should I go for the A1? I don't normally use burst mode (my current burst is 7 fps I believe) Anyways great video. Thanks!
Some nice new features, but you can get a Sony A7R IVa in as new condition for £2300, so an extra £1700 would be difficult to justify for some people. I think if the sensor and buffer had even gone to 15fps it may have been different.
My A7R4 delivers the goods. The only thing I NEED from the A7RV is the articulating screen for my vertical low angle shots. Making the switch is going to cost me over $2K. I am not sure if it is worth it right now. I'll wait for A7RX when the resolution hits 100MP+!!
DP, love ya'll work! I recently bought the A7rv with a new grip and found that the grip did not fit and later found out that that is an issue with the current grip sold and said to fit as per the Sony Corporate, but I can tell you that after taking it back to Precision Camera in Austin Texas I was told that I was among numerous a7rv owners advising that the battery grip fitment was off. I had a gap that I was able to see through. Was wondering if you had the same issue if and when you tried a battery grip with your camera. There is a big thread on DP Review regarding this issue. Hope it gets fixed soon and maybe you could contact some of your Sony rep's and see what's up with this issue. Keep up the good work. Thank You
In terms of video how does this compare with the A7Siii? Apart from the Siii being able to do 4K at 120 does the Siii have any advantage over the A7R5 for video? This is important as they are pretty much the same price and people are still buying the Siii
I pre-ordered an a7r2 back in the day and have been shooting it ever since. Still a great camera, but I wouldn't mind upgrading. The thing that's kept me from buying a new camera is the newer A7r5, A7c and A7 iv all have worse ISO performance than my 7 year old camera.
Did you guys try doing that focus stack in Photoshop, or basically does it still do the multiple shots at multiple folks ranges and then we can try to do it in a different spot than the alpha app
That’s a very exciting new camera, has a whole bunch of meaningful upgrades versus the A7M4 which I am incredibly happy with. Let’s see what tonight’s lottery jackpot can do to my new wishlist… 😅
Just wondering if you know if Sony are going to fix the EVF in the A7R5 ? We have the A74 and are going to send back the A7R5 as we find the resolution drop to distracting. We have had this camera for over a week now and had it setup and factory reset a good few times now to fix the low res issue in the EVF. and its not just when tracking. We were looking forward to using it in the studio but cant bring ourselves to pick it up and just reach for the A74. But if Sony can fix this with firmware update we might just keep it.
Thanks guys, a wonder what a new A9III would be like?... 33 mgp stacked sensor, 8 stops oss, the AF like in the A7RV, 9.33 EVF and 20/30 FPS any toughts? greets from the Netherlands
The perfect camera is finally here, the only problem is no money.
Wo, all the A7RV reviews just dropped :O
Obviously gonna watch DPRTVs one first 😎
Tilt with a flip-out is an excellent feature - you get the option to flip the screen out while still allowing for centralised tilt when using a gimbal. Best of both worlds.
@@weplaywax Not at all, indeed for filming fast motion sports like skateboarding external monitors are of limited use due to latency issues - the image on the external monitor is typically about half a second behind the action. That's not the case with the on-camera screen. The two videos on my channel were filmed using an A7III on a Weebill S gimbal. No external monitor.
Yeah, I like this screen! Sadly that's really the only thing about this camera worthy of note. The R5 is still a better camera and it's nearly 3 years old.
@@77dris You make a reasonable point. However, when lenses are also considered the Sony is a far more appealing. Sony's lens range alone is arguably superior to Canon's RF range, then there's the huge number of native third party E mount lenses. I wouldn't even consider buying or recommending Canon anymore.
+1, not being able to tilt the screen on my a 7 IV when I'm using a gimbal in action sports is quite annoying
amazing screen design, centralized tilt is awesome I don't like looking to the side of the camera when screen flipped out for simple low/high shots,,,,,,btw isn't R5 suppose to be compared to A1?
Whoa! Tilt AND flip screen is the best of both worlds! 🥵
Applause for Sony to have gone from 1-axis-only-tilt to the best-of-all-worlds tilt mechanism for the screen, in just a couple of years' time!
They had it on the A77ii and the A99ii, the first of which was released more than 7 years ago, the only difference seems to be that the hinge was underneath instead of on the outside, so the screen stayed behind the camera. Why it took so long to bring back this obviously better solution baffles me, but I'm glad they finally saw the light!
@@cadmus777 bulk?
@@MuhammadKharismawan ???? Edit: Aah, I get what you're saying now, they were worried about the extra bulk/thickness this design adds to the back of the camera. Yeah, you're probably right, although I think that was a silly choice it's likely one of the reasons why they didn't use it.
@@weplaywax S1's screen can't flip down well.
@@weplaywax the irony of this comment is that the s1r did not have the exact same mechanisim. I had an S1 it had the same mechanism as s1r: they were flip.
If you were talking about the S1H, yeah it came out and it was bulky and couldn’t flip down.
Sony didn’t invent the 4 axis flip/articulating screen but it did make it thinner and add the ability to tilt down. Not “revolutionary” but its a step in the right direction
As always balanced review and provides us to make our choices. Well laid out detailed feedback while stating previous models to consider as well!👍
Tilt/flip screen is the best camera innovation of the last few years!
I agree. I’m a disabled amateur photographer. Some people on Sony camera pages moan about them
YES. I hate flip screens. Now this meets everyone’s needs.
The biggest highlight of this camera.
it's been around for years
@@weplaywax purely because it has good AF and people who don't know how to manual focus, really rely on it
Hello from Scotland! I stopped and took some photos of the Nanton buildings a few years ago on a random road trip. Been watching you guys for years this was great to see again!
You were fooled by a bee-mimic at 8:39! That is actually a common drone fly (eristalis tenax). It looks like a bee so that other creatures give it the respect that an insect with a stinger deserves, but it is actually harmless.
For years I have been wishing for Sony to revive the A99 screen-design into it’s E Alpha cams, but this is an even better solution!
The a99 screen is great.
Close but I like the way my A99ii screen articulates better because I don't like viewing the LCD to the side.
Really appreciate your reviews, thanks!
Always the best reviews and information. Thank you!
Great review, as always!
Almost 400k! Keep it up!
also, really like the video from the gh6.
I'm digging that tilt-screen mechanism!
Doing the same thing they did with the R II and R III -- keeping the same sensor while improving everything else -- was the right choice. As good as the R IV is, having the old menus, buffer rates, etc. on such a high-end model was kind of a drag. The sensor is fine, everything else was overdue for an update.
Yeah I was disappointed the R4 didn't get the S3 treatment but I am sticking with it. There isn't enough in this to make me upgrade from the R4 to the R5.
I use the A1, which also has video "issues" at full-frame. Its 8K mode is terrific with no significant rolling shutter thanks to the stacked sensor, but the 4K FF modes are horrible. I therefore shoot much of my video in S35, and I added a 10-20 F/4 PZ G to my kit for wide shots. It's an optically solid little lens, and I imagine that it would also be an excellent option for A7RV users that want to shoot wide-angle video. It's also really convenient on a gimbal (extremely compact, power zoom, no CG shift when zooming).
NIce to see they've (finally) brought back the flip screen from the A77! Hopefully that carries over to other new models but I'll be waiting a while since I just got the A7RIV a few months ago
Looks good, but I think my favorite thing about the a7r V is that it will decrease the price of the older versions on the used market. :)
Willing to sell mine right now to buy this lol.
A7 III kind of costs the same now as it was at launch, which seems many years ago now.
With inflation and the newer higher prices on tech old cameras will at best stay same price …. Indeed their prices may go up too
You would think that. Didn't happen with the A7III/A7IV combination though.
Local to me low mile IV's have been clearing for around 3K CAD. I'd welcome an additional discount if it should occur.
Can't wait to buy one of these in 2025, used. Please take good care of your cameras!
hahahaha best comment in this entire section
I am one who loves still shots. I'm not much of one for videos. This looks incredible with the improved and unique features to be the boss of stills. I love my R3, but this just goes above and beyond. Nice review and thanks for being honest about its pros and cons.
Sounds great, especially the articulated screen and AI focus imo. The big thing I miss for wildlife is pre-buffered shooting, like OM’s “Procapture.” My suggestion: could you guys do an episode about pre-buffering, in particular how & why it works for OM and others but doesn’t seem possible for Sony? Gotta be a reason, maybe even a good story there.
Keep up the great work, thanks!
Still rocking my A7RIII and don’t feel the need to upgrade! Be happy with what you have 😎
Thank you for the detail review on this camera. Love the Hi-Rez VF and tilt/flip out/rotate LCD screen. I will wait for the A7 V or A1 II has before making my A7 IV as a backup camera though.
Make sure to give this camera a Gold award!
I really like that monitor design, every camera should have that one
Nice video guys, thanks! After talking about the high res mode I was expecting to see that background man smoothed out? A smoother sound mix and I'm a fan of the end music fade-up. (funny reverb on the bench shot?)
7:55 - that composition has great leading lines for your leading man; great shot, Jordan!
Great video!!! You guys are amazing!
Great review Chris--sure missed you on the Hasselblad X2D "review"....
Thank you for talking about the ibis with long focal lenses, that was an issues with the r4 and I was waiting to see how it handle it
Your review was great, enough detailed photos and videos to prove your point. I like the camera. However, is there any other brands that are close to this models performance? That bit of protective would have made this review perfect. Still great work, you guys know your stuff!
This video is much appreciated
THE FLIP OUR SCREEN IS PERFECT NOW!!! CANNOT WAIT FOR THIS TO BE IMPLEMENTED ON NEW CAMERAS! THE CAMERA STORE IN CALGARY IS STILL THE BEST PLACE FOR YOUR NEEDS IN ALBERTA!
Thanks for sharing another wonderful video like always 👍
Thank you for this super good walkthrough! Shopping for a Canon R5 replacement and though this one seems nice it doesn’t match the video capabilities on the R5 😊
Very cool stuff. Spot on. Just pointing out that the "bee" at 8:37 is actually a fly mimicing a bee.
Thanks for another great video! Personally, I don't need the new tilt screen, but I do wish they had given it a much higher fps for stills. With some second-hand A1s showing up on the market now, I was waiting to see if the A7RV would have some of the speed of the A1. Do love the new auto-focus capabilities though. Might have to get myself an A1 and an A7R V.
Best reviews available
Thanks for the review--is the overheating worse than the A1?
great video thanks a lot
More tempted to wait for a new A1 fixing its issues than upgrade my A7R4 to this. Love the screen mechanism.
Love your style!
Best review! Cheers 🍻
Thank you for translating dots into resolution. There is truly one hd evf. Wish more camera will have a more hd evf. And brighter lcd
This new song 60mgp camera is insane! Love it
Great review!! Argh, so torn between the A7RV and the A1! I'm more portraits and landscape rather than fast moving sports and wildlife. Will the image quality be better on the A1?
Thanks Chris! I'm peacefully returning to my Lumix S5, with my entire kit built out in 2500 USD (going to 3500 with the 100-400 or 70-300 Zoom soon). This is a fantastic camera, but you could probably get by with a used a7R 3 + new a7 IV at this price point, and have the best of all worlds :)
I would have also loved the a1 shutter just because it's so much quieter than the 7iv not just the sync speed bump
I find the very loud shutter of my A7 II quite charming, hehe.
I was waiting for price drop of A7R IV so I can upgrade from my A7R II and this will finally bring that to me
I love the flip out screen. For now I'll stick with my A7R4, especially since spouse bought me a new iPhone 14 Pro. Seeing the need for a camera less and less. Though, I confess, I do love my three Sony G Master lenses. Well, someday I'll upgrade.
Not worth upgrading from a previous generation body. But as someone switching systems, especially for me from a 15 year old Olympus kit, I am in heaven jumping into Full Frame with Sony at this time. The AF tech is just phenomenal, the EVF best in class, 8-stop IBIS, focus stacking, 200+MP stills and massive resolution at 10FPS all give me extreme flexibility and ease of use. Yes I wish it had a speedy electronic shutter option at lower resolutions but fwiw I think it offers incredible value over the 50MP A1 cost $2000 more.
My A73 and A7R3 are still giving me beautiful pictures and video… great camera the A7 V though . I will wait until my other cameras have had enough
I love the screen design. All cameras should have this
I hope this is the future.
It looks kind of flimsy and shaky when moved
I have the Z9, and I totally agree with you.
Great video. But... People in Canada still use Yelp eh?
I like the the tilting flipout screen. I use an A7RII. The new stuff makes this a tempting upgrade
I'm also holding a a7r2... Tbh once a7r5 drops below 3200USD....I will go for it
i’m looking for a better sony and the a7r2 is about the limit of my budget, would u guys recommend it?
@@munrostrachan4294 no. I got it because I have plenty of FW50 for my ZV-E10. I would still suggest save a bit more and go more Nikon Z7(first gen) as a minimum.
the X-H2 seems like an amazing deal after this release. As a fine art photographer
The X-T5 will be an even sweeter offer🎉 or the upcoming X-Pro 4.
I applaud Sony for addressing most of the A7RIV issues and make a good camera even better, despite the hefty price tag. It also leaves me wondering how great the S1/S1R/S1H could be if only Panasonic had the clarity of mind to add phase detect… Almost all the great things we like in the A7RV were already addressed in 2019 by Panasonic in an even sturdier package with better handling and better color management. If only the AF-C and tracking…
@Jacob,
I had the S1H and sold it to a friend for the same reason you mentioned.
If you look at all the companies that died or dying like Nokia, Yahoo, AOL, HP, Xerox, RIMM or Blackberry, etc etc, they all had one common denominator, stubborn to a fault. And didn’t focused on staying relevant but focused on a strong belief of being right and therefore stubborn until being obsolete.
I loved the colors of Pana even more than Canon and all the tech and video assist tools but the af system was tough to deal with as a one man crew. Sure all the manual focus guys would hang their hat on that real cinema cams uses manual but out of context when you have focus pullers and a big crew and budget.
It reminds of the grandparents giving history lessons of walking 10mi+ in snow and even with cars we should walk. Yeah sure!
Embrace competition as if you don’t, they have no problem taking your customers away and customers who are discerning, will make the choice that’s best for them.
Good to see Sony and Canon duking it out and now Nikon is catching up. Hope Pana gets pass this hump and concede to the hybrid af system that all 3 players have shifted too
I felt Panasonic presented a strong entry into full frame mirrorless. AF was a big issue from the get-go and everyone knew this and as far as I can tell, was willing to give Panasonic a chance if they made an attempt to integrate phase detect AF in future iterations of the S-series. But they stated they had no plans to do so. Seeing this, and seeing how important AF would be in high performance, low-man environments, myself and many others sold our S cameras and jumped ship. It was a painful financial choice to let go of such a promising system. But I feel I'm in a much better place with the Sony system.
@@DapperArtImagery I agree was a very painful exercise letting go of my S1 and S1R and took a huge loss doing so...if only the AF performed it would have been my perfect camera, miss the handling, ergos and colours, my sonys are blehhh by comparison
@@DapperArtImagery I hope Panasonic will start using phase AF on next gen, body design is great / good weather resistance right? / seem rugged / awesome stabilization, overall too many good things going there - just need better AF & then it will be a good alternative to Sony
@@mirrorlessny imo it was almost perfect in all areas except for the AF =[
8:17 - Can't wait to use them with my Voigtlander lens collection
Well I came to Sony for a vast choice of great lenses. Since I shoot essentially stills of models I chose the A7RIIIa to get me by. The only real regret is the EVF is not great. Some said the RIV was not much better, yet when I tried the A1, I knew immediately that I had to have this type of EVF. So thanks Sony. I also saw the shutter has a 500000 MTBF which is better for me. Lat Canon I sold had >400K and is still going.
Looks great
For me - landscape, occasional wildlife & street photographer - this has the features I'm missing in my A7Riii. Focus stacking and the multi-axis screen are huge in terms of actual usage and enjoyment of shooting with the camera. They might seem trivial things compared to the autofocus and resolution. Seriously, and this might sound bizarre, if the A7RV had had a normal swivel screen like the A7IV I would not be saving like mad for it.
I've had the a7R III and the a6 series since 2017 since 2019 and it's been in constant use, but I can't say that I've really enjoyed using it. Produced great results but definitely wasn't enjoyable throughout. Still, can't really beat Sony for bang for the buck, especially if you use third-party lenses.
Been following their releases to see what's been improved with each generation and the A1 had me hopeful but cautious (given that it's a halo product). Looks like this addressed the major pain points (poor responsiveness, poor back LCD resolution, tilt-only back LCD, no lossless compressed, uneven SD card slots, awful menus, button and dial issues, etc).
Wish it hadn't taken them so long, but looks like they've finally fixed those long-time issues. Looking forward to purchasing this on the used market once prices go down.
At this point in my life, I'm sure that A7RM4 will be last the camera I own. But I strongly recommend this camera to youngsters because they'll enjoy using it just as I'm enjoying my A7RM4. For me, the only feature that I could be jealous of would be that fully articulating backscreen. 📷
What kind of youngster has that kind of money laying around these days? LOL
Sorry but thats silly, its too pricey for most but those who are born to rich daddies or have a photography job.
@@SMGJohn I'am 75, so anyone younger than me is considered as youngsters. 🤣
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Fair enough I suppose, from experience any camera from 2012 and newer are pretty overkill for photography alone
Thank God focus bracketing is here! Hope to see it on my a1 in future firmware.
@@weplaywax not just Panasonic, Canon Nikon also have it for a while..... Surprised Sony is ignorant on this function. (and in body RAW conversion)
Tilt and flip screen, focus stacking, good IBIS. Finally a decent upgrade for the a7riii.
If you can afford it...
Hey your in Fort Macleod! Watching from Lethbridge here :)
This may be an evolution of the iv, but it seems like a damn good evolution. Some of the issues like the screen tilt or painful menu design weren't directly related to camera quality, but they definitely mattered for actually using the thing.
I agree that the new multi-angle/position flip-out screen would also have been very nice to have had on the FX30 also. Perhaps Sony's thinking that was video/cinematographers will add a monitor anyway and decided to keep the cost down by using a simpler version. If that were the case, I do wish that Sony would realise that we use a second monitor because the ones on Sony cameras are low in resolution and/or too small to get critical focus when using manual focus. I would much prefer to see a decent monitor on the camera itself than having to add a second monitor that is cumbersome, adds weight and is a faff regardless of how small or wonderful they may be! I do appreciate that the monitor size is camera size dependent.
The video concludes saying this is a great camera for stills shooting in studio and landscape environments... I'm looking to upgrade from my old and dying D750 as my main stills shooter, does this mean this camera won't perform as well in all regards as say an old used D750? I shoot long exposure, landscape, portraiture, low light, all Linds of available light stuff, etc. The added video capabilities to pair with my a7s2 as a B-cam is just a bonus for me 👍
That screen tilt mechanizm looking like in old Sony A77 😁It was so good that I was in impression it will be Sony standard for all cameras since. By the way A7R V looking like decent piece of body.
Good stuff, many thanks. I do have one question though:
Since silent shooting isn't really a runner how noisy is the shutter, say compared to the other high-MP bodies (A1,Z9, Z7II,R5,S1R)?
❤ the tilt screen, but otherwise hard to get excited about. Pretty sure $AUD will be eye-watering ☹️
the bike and seesaw is comedy gold
So I have an a1 just for stills, couldn't care less about video, love the EVF, has the simple flip screen, has focus mode dials on the left side, all great stuff. Was hoping if these features appeared on the RV and it had a 90mp sensor, I might switch over. Now it seems like this is very much like the A7IV, where they throw in the new processor and buff up the video features, which I don't care about at all. The improved IBIS is great that alone isn't going to make it an upgrade from the a1.
Guess will have to wait for the a1 mk2
Great review as always, the A7R4B is looking pretty good!
Kudos to Sony, especially on that multi-axis screen. They actually anticipated the possible complaints and took care of that right out of the gate!
As a still photographer I love the convenient simple old tilt feature on my Rii and I was afraid of losing that if I upgraded. 😃
I've watched a lot of reviews on this camera (this one is fantastic btw) Some say it's great for action, others don't. I'm upgrading from an entry level Canon t6i and my focus is mainly on fast action dog sports, dogs running and some portraits. Would it be worth it for me to invest in this camera or should I go for the A1? I don't normally use burst mode (my current burst is 7 fps I believe) Anyways great video. Thanks!
What?! Did I just see Chris put effort into making artistic photos? Crazy times we're living in, crazy times indeed.
I Would Say it Adds a Star on yelp, as the mould “is” under control :)
Thank you for the review. Is it a worthy upgrade from a7RIII? how do you compare this to a7IV? resolution is not important to me.
Some nice new features, but you can get a Sony A7R IVa in as new condition for £2300, so an extra £1700 would be difficult to justify for some people. I think if the sensor and buffer had even gone to 15fps it may have been different.
My A7R4 delivers the goods. The only thing I NEED from the A7RV is the articulating screen for my vertical low angle shots. Making the switch is going to cost me over $2K. I am not sure if it is worth it right now. I'll wait for A7RX when the resolution hits 100MP+!!
DP, love ya'll work! I recently bought the A7rv with a new grip and found that the grip did not fit and later found out that that is an issue with the current grip sold and said to fit as per the Sony Corporate, but I can tell you that after taking it back to Precision Camera in Austin Texas I was told that I was among numerous a7rv owners advising that the battery grip fitment was off. I had a gap that I was able to see through. Was wondering if you had the same issue if and when you tried a battery grip with your camera. There is a big thread on DP Review regarding this issue. Hope it gets fixed soon and maybe you could contact some of your Sony rep's and see what's up with this issue. Keep up the good work. Thank You
Nice I might upgrade my A7R3 this year. Does you the same batteries?
That tilty floppy screen is a nice addition
In terms of video how does this compare with the A7Siii? Apart from the Siii being able to do 4K at 120 does the Siii have any advantage over the A7R5 for video? This is important as they are pretty much the same price and people are still buying the Siii
Great Review - question can you shoot 4k 60P in super 35 (crop) mode?
I pre-ordered an a7r2 back in the day and have been shooting it ever since. Still a great camera, but I wouldn't mind upgrading. The thing that's kept me from buying a new camera is the newer A7r5, A7c and A7 iv all have worse ISO performance than my 7 year old camera.
If you tried out the A7R3 you would never use that A7R2 again. its a huge step up for auto focus.
A7r3 is so much better then the a7r2 , by a mile!
Would have liked to have seen a low light evaluation of the body. Are images printable (24x36) at ISO 3200? 6400?
The feature with the most value to me would be the 8 stop ibis which gives it the edge in low light photography.
Looks like a great camera for small or medium business if you have the budget to buy it.
Should be a great upgrade for me since I'm getting this from the R2...
How often do you drop cameras Chris?
Nice! Looks promising. Sticking to my A7 IV. Can't wait to see what Sony comes up with in the next few years.
Nice video. Just a small note: your photo of a "bee" is actually showing a hoverfly. ;)
Love my A7R IV so I'm not ready to upgrade just yet...
Did you guys try doing that focus stack in Photoshop, or basically does it still do the multiple shots at multiple folks ranges and then we can try to do it in a different spot than the alpha app
That’s a very exciting new camera, has a whole bunch of meaningful upgrades versus the A7M4 which I am incredibly happy with. Let’s see what tonight’s lottery jackpot can do to my new wishlist… 😅
Just wondering if you know if Sony are going to fix the EVF in the A7R5 ? We have the A74 and are going to send back the A7R5 as we find the resolution drop to distracting. We have had this camera for over a week now and had it setup and factory reset a good few times now to fix the low res issue in the EVF. and its not just when tracking. We were looking forward to using it in the studio but cant bring ourselves to pick it up and just reach for the A74. But if Sony can fix this with firmware update we might just keep it.
First off. That screen is where it's at. Fuji need to be doing that with the X-T series, too.
Thanks guys, a wonder what a new A9III would be like?... 33 mgp stacked sensor, 8 stops oss, the AF like in the A7RV, 9.33 EVF and 20/30 FPS any toughts? greets from the Netherlands