I've had this for 2 months or so now. .The most honest thing I can say is that it's like having a cheat code on. Video, autofocus...image quality are sensational. Makes me think the a1ii and the a9iii are gonna be stupidly gd too.the a7r5 is incredible imo
Its £3000 now here in the UK about £1000 more than I wanted to pay, but its just got everything I could need for hybrid work. I plan on getting the Tamron 20-40mm and keeping that lens on permanently. My current lenses are 20 24 35 and 50. I reckon if I put it into crop mode at 40 im covered
Thank you Dustin for the review, as always very nice and through! Probably worth mentioning that Sony added few welcome futters like focus stacking, expanded bulb mode and improved pixel shift mode. Looking forward for review of new Sony lenses - 70-200GM II and 24-70 GM II :)
Totally agree Dustin. Not only has Sony added some great features to this camera such as the rear screen and AI focusing, it’s the fact that it’s implemented and tidied up so many minor things that really makes it feel complete. I feel like I’m using a camera from a camera company rather than an electronics company. I’ll mostly use medium raw reserving the large raw for landscape/architecture/macro. I love that I can use medium raw and then use APSC mode to get extra length from the lens with the resolution staying the same.
"I feel like I’m using a camera from a camera company rather than an electronics company." That's a great line. I should have thought it up and used it ;)
You definitely brought up some good points and a great perspective about it being a camera from a camera company instead of an electronics company. You gave me an excellent thing to truly think about!!! Thank you!!! This camera on my to buy list!!!
Andy, good comments. I am looking forward to getting mine. About “…tidied up so many things…”, I can’t comment much because I have no experience with the Alpha series. That said, I’m a retired software engineer with 40+ years experience. What I learned in that time is that many engineers (software, hardware, etc) develop features they think are important but customers do not. My Panasonic GH3 is full of those features. It got so bad that I stopped using it and just got by with my iPhone for the last several years. I’ve watched many a7RV You Tubes over the last month or so. My constant reactions have been, “Damn that’s nice.” “Oooh, be still my heart”. “That’s a feature I can use!” 💕. And your comment was right on…. Unlike Panasonic (based on my experience), Sony is a camera company and not an electronics company. The a7R5 is mature and appears to have ALL of the major features that I want.
Dustin, thanks for the best body and lens reviews (on RUclips or anywhere for that matter). Your reviews are comprehensive, meticulous and always spot on.
I remember some of your older videos where we both agreed that Sony needed to implement a smaller RAW option. I'm very glad to see that not only they listened, but that the result is really good!
Thanks for the comprehensive photo focused review. It would be a real help to know the limits of the A7RV and operate within the best range for this camera.
Nice job on the review, as always! I've just spent some time with the camera and have been looking closely at the underexposure recovery, comparing it to the A7rii I also have. Even though the noise is about a half stop worse in the new camera, I'm really pleased with the ability to recover underexposed images. I've found that it's better to underexpose by 4 stops at ISO 100, than it is to correctly expose at ISO 1600. The A7rii could only benefit from a 3 stop push.
Thank you Dustin, always enjoying watching your in depth reviews before purchasing any gear. Curious if there is a difference in dynamic range by going to mraw or sraw, like the advantages you saw in high iso performance?
I upgrade my A7Rii to A7RV after 7 years of using only the A7Rii.. I cant be happier. I still shoot my A7rii but man o man... technology move so fast in 7 years time. Especially the AF.. AF has advance so much over the years.
I have this an the fx3… perfect combo. I like it a lot better than the A7IV. Not that it’s bad, it’s just if you want the extras and they have value to you. No brainer.
This camera came out 6 months too late for me. I liked the a7RIV, but it was missing too many QoL features that I was looking for. Hence why I went for the Nikon Z7II and have been very happy with it thus far (albeit without the nice selection of third party lenses on Sony, at least for now). But it's fantastic to see Sony address pretty much all of my complaints with this revision. They've finally done it.
If I get A7RV as my first camera with 70-200mm F4 macro G ii and just use standard Yellow iPhone 15 to shoot closer things with its 13mm, 26mm and 52mm, is it good setup if I'm just hobbyist with good understanding of photography and compositions who want to enjoy shooting and use for personal products shots too? I choose Sony over other brands because they have the lens with unique feature I want like super tele with macro ability that I mentioned, power zoom lens and standard zoom that start from ultra wide 20mm and I love Sony as a brand too. I choose this over A7CII/R because of its good EVF and 4 ways tilt screen and smaller body don't give benefit with big lens other than weight saving and people still notice you have a camera, A7RV is like just as small but with a big EVF attached. Should I get another lens right away, I have the 16-35mm F4 PZ G in mind, or I should get something faster and prime that still light weight on gimbal? I don't really care for bokeh, that tele will able to do it too if I want to, I like my photos and videos to have story and creativity and not blur out the contexts. Also, have you wonder why put so many effort just to take photos and videos and not just use phone camera to record here and there if it's not your primary work and also your content not all will get pass down and value later? And what camera setup you bring in everyday life and travel, some people use less bulky and performance camera for their own life but use fancy gears for clients and travel, why, isn't everyday life is most parts of our life and important too?
That's correct. I have a timed release of the full review - it is scheduled for next Monday, but I let people find it via Easter eggs in advance - like you
Camera manufacturers need to be working very hard on developing noiseless, high ISO. Imagine if you could shoot in almost any light with auto ISO on, and never worry about noise.
Thank you for the detail review of this camera. As tempting as the A7R V is after you showing the mRAW quality at 26MP, I am still going to hold back the upgrade from A7 IV and hoping for A1 II to have the 61MP and more features over the A7R IV.
A 20% resolution increase doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe in 2 or 3 generations they'll make a significant increase. Hard to imagine 80, 100mp stacked. But, tech can evolve a lot over time
HI DUSTIN, GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS.. CAN YOU PLEASE TELL OR IF POSSIBLE DEMONSTRATE, HOW MUCH CROP AN ACTIVE STABILIZATION MODE AND FOCUS BREATHING COMPENSATION MODE TOGETHER CAUSE ON A SONY 35MM 1.4 GM IN VIDEO MODE. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO BUY THIS LENS. YOUR GUIDANCE WILL HELP A LOT. THANK YOU....
You can actually see that in this video. Just compare the framing of the video without focus breathing compensation on and the one that shows it afterward.
There are a lot of areas to cover like a book I got over 900 pgs. I have the A7s iii and this camera I found noise the same when doing Milky Way capture. This camera was way more sensitive to light at night, Siii 3200 but V had to come down to 800 and a faster SS of 2s vs the 8s both getting excellent sharp stars using NPF for accurate for each model. I only wish for the old playmemories Digital Filter I had on my A7S and A7rii (will never get rid of)- yes in camera processing a sky and foreground of different settings processed in camera with a RAW output. A lot of in store SONY reps never knew about, just bring it back!
Sony wants people to suffer sore knuckles because of the camera size as everyone has complained about it since 2013 and they still refuse to make a larger body, Sony shouldn't need feedback about this issue, they designed it and knew that it would cause issues but they don't care, it's about Sony's profit not customer service. The paint wears off after a few months this shows how cheap they make their products. They are made for the disposable market.
Dustin, this is your most informative review to date. Thank you! I currently use mostly an a7Riv but I have also used the a7Rv and intend to purchase it. What I learned from this review is that noise in medium compressed lossless RAW is noticeably less than in 61mp capture. For low light, astro, my 61mp a7Riv is actually superior to the a7iv 33mp. The noise is finer grain, easier to suppress in post without losing image detail. else has investigated this, and it is intriguing. Perhaps the new lossless compressed M 26mp will be better yet?
Watching this at 1440p on an iPad Pro 12.9 inch and I am blown away at the noise performance. None of those look unusable to me, even the higher ISOs have a pleasing grain. I might change my mind if I saw them for myself in a desktop monitor and maybe the 240ppi is helping, but that’s not obnoxious. Maybe you have Lightroom noise reduction switched on? In any case we’ve come a LONG way from what my old digital camera can do, where by the time you hit 1600 it’s utter trash and in practice you don’t want to stray beyond 200 if possible.
The quality of the EVF drops drastically when you put in focus.... And yes I have the anti flick turned off... the only way is to put standard quality monitor / evf ...
Any reason you use the term “Mark” when talking about Sony cameras? That’s more of a Canon thing, I’ve never heard Sony use the word Mark when referring to their Alpha lineup.
They may have an M in the model name, but they still don’t “mark” their cameras. it’s not on the box, and it’s not on the body. It could be A7R model 5. If I was Sony, I would want to differentiate from canon in anyway possible definitely wouldn’t use their Mark moniker.
Update for me 9/5/23. Sony is running a sale with rebate and trade-in bonus for a total of $900 USD off om the A7RV, so today I traded my A7RIV in and bought the A7RV, a really nice upgrade to a high-resolution camera I have used around the world and loved the images I have made with it. . Looking forward to all the better features and performance. Have the Viltrox 16mm f1.8 coming too, both from my favorite mom and pop dealer Allen Camera, outside Philadelphia, Pa. Thanks for your always comprehensive and superb test/reviews. This will join my A1 and my A7SIII. Cheers and best to you.
The full size RAW to Medium RAW was exactly what I was hoping to see. It could be useful to configure one of the custom dials to a Medium RAW high burst rate setting. At full size RAW it's a bit rough dealing with strings of 123mb files. That works out to over 1gb per second of shooting. Sure you lose the cropping power, but on the other hand smaller files with some better color performance. If you shoot a static subject you can always swap back to full size image and drop the shutter speed and burst rate. I'm satisfied. What I'm eager to see is if some of the improvements in the A7RV make it into an A9III.
Thank you Dustin, I really appreciate your reviews. I used to have an A7R3 and upgraded it to A7R5 two weeks ago. I think I will intensively use M-Raw option with this camera. İt is great option for me too :) Sony finally did it this time. Additionally, could you also review Sony 24-70mm GM 2.8 II and 70-200mm GM 2.8 II lenses, please?
I own the A7Cii and I recently compared it against my S5ii. I still like Panasonics colors better but I find the Sony AF to be much faster and this new AI processing is pretty much perfect. If you want anything in focus I cannot get this thing to miss. I happily sold my Fuji stuff. Little by little I'm moving over to 100% Sony. Good deals on this one now so the A7RV may be best for me.
thank u for the detailed video! however I would be happy to hear some comparison regarding in body ef. JPEG image quality (high iso/sharpness) as I have no time for raw post processing and so using JPEG. thanks
Just another question, mostly from a Macro photographer's point of view On my existing FF body (A7R3), I often find myself cropping for the end result Instead, I could have used the crop mode on my A7R3, thus apart from not being concerned with the area I wouldn't be using anyway (and smaller files), also benefit for that extra DoF But the crop mode on the A7R3 would give me less than the 24MP of my a6300 - thus, lose somewhat in pixel density and therefore clarity My question here, with regard to the crop mode of this new A7R5 (26MP?) vs the native a6300 (24MP) Should I expect to see a fractional increase in terms of IQ whilst shooting with an A7R5 in crop mode (as opposed to my a6300)? Is a direct comparison as this feasible or am I missing something from the equation?
I'm still torn on whether to get this or the A1. So many things to love about the A1 but that price, even with the end of 2023 drop, is still very steep. Great review nonetheless. Didn't know you were a pastor Dustin!
Excellent review Dustin. I certainly agree with your conclusion that the A7R5 is a very complete camera. My first Sony body was the original nex-7. This is when Sony first to introduced the e-mount system. Since then many of the Sony cameras have suffered with autofocus and image quality issues and actual camera performance. The A7R 5 demonstrates years of r&d that has produced a excellent result. Looking over a recent event shoot that I did I found that I had so many of the profile shots where you could hardly see the eye many of them the subjects had on glasses were perfectly and focus. Even in a recent partridge shoot with my mother the autofocus nailed her eye threw a pair of dark sunglasses. Not to mention how impressed I have been with the cameras ability to quickly transfer images onto my phone. It's not perfect but it is one of the best somebody cameras that I have ever used.
some great grey import deals on this camera right now .. very tempting .. this truly is a great camera . thanks for your reviews Dustin , I don't know anyone who does reviews like you who I can trust & respect
Thank you for all the detailed reviews you are providing. May i ask how you would rank AF accuracy (sharp photo %) between A7R V, A7IV, A9 ? (i do wildlife, BIF, and i see mylself cropping as hell, and kind a bit disappointed with A7IV AF keepers [i know i have to improve my skills]).
I found the same with the A74. Just could not keep up with fast flying birds and pans. I know it was not advertised as a sports camera but it was priced so well with the 200-600.
Have you considered the a1. That stacked sensor means no blackout and your eye never loses sight of your subject as long as you can keep up and the a1 also has Dual Bionz XR. No automatic focus stacking but with practice you can achieve that on your own.
The frustrating thing for me with this otherwise great camera is the terrible ergonomics. That might seem like a relatively small issue to some people, but it's a huge deal to me. Bad ergonomics just don't inspire or make you feel excited about shooting with the camera.
What exactly do you find terrible about the ergonomics? I do slightly prefer something like the Canon R5 ergonomically, but I also feel like Sony has really refined the ergonomics of the a7R series.
I’m the opposite….I sold my R5 and bought a A7IV became I like the ergonomics better on the newer Sony bodies that the Canons. To each their own, I guess.
Non è oro quello che luccica, sono possessore di questa fotocamera da due mesi e non vale il suo prezzo. Nessun miglioramento qualitativo anzi a volte inferiore alla sony a7 Sony A7 III.
Been following you for quite sometime, I purchased the a7r5. Have an A1 I’m not going to say anything because I don’t test like you do. But being that you have both. Witch do you think does a better job with Photos
Would like to see if god permits a a7rv vs a1 showdown by you. I understand how much work goes into these productions and value your time. Thanks once again
The A1 sensor is slightly compromised by comparison by being stacked and having that very fast readout. In terms of just image quality the a7R5 would be a bit better.
Hi Dustin. I am very confused about the real world benefit of 61mp vs 33mp. Seems like the 61mp benefit is just for cropping. Is there a real world image quality benefit when not cropping, in your experience? Thanks so much! Art.
For me it is important for testing lenses, but obviously my needs are much different than most people's. So yes, I would say the main benefit is cropping...though also the ability to have a very useful 26MP APS-C mode. That really does allow you to use even more lenses in a still useful way.
Hey Brother, late to this one :D. As always wonderful review. I just placed an A7RV on order… fixed several needs I’ve discovered with my A7iv… the first one being reach. One of the selling points of the Sony system is it’s lens eco-system, one of the drawbacks is no TC for 3rd party. I snagged a 50-400 for sub $1k and have been loving it, but I really need to get out to 600mm so I’ve been looking seriously at Fuji or Sony A6700 etc. I then ran across a thread on DPR applauding the A7RV’s secret Crop Mode weapon due to it’s 26mp resolution… this effectively gives all my lenses 2 different usable focal lengths. Even though you can just crop in post, the smaller file sizes and the improved AF at distances (BIF etc.) is an amazing feature. I was secretly waiting for a D500 replacement (Z800?), but this is a better solution. I’ve also found I haven’t been using my A7IV as much as my Z6ii since purchasing it and have had a hard time figuring out why till I looked at a higher rez screen on a friends camera… that was it! Because I feel the need to look at everything in post on the lower rez screens of the A7IV it’s a deterrent to me wanting to use it… seems shallow, but that was the reason. The A7RV has the same rear screen rez/dimensions as my Z6ii plus a 9mp EVF! I’m excited to test your M-Raw findings as well. The more I thought this through (and with the current rebates) I decided this was really everything I needed and wanted… such a flexible and well-rounded camera. This setup will give me the reach I’m looking for without purchasing another lens and roughly for the same price as getting an A6700 after selling the A7iv. When I bite the 200-600mm Sony bullet with the 2X TC I could get out to ~1800mm in crop mode! Thanks again Dustin, extremely informative review!
3 months with this thing, everything was perfect then all the sudden I have really bad image quality. Haven't dropped it or done anything differently and now it is giving soft images like the stabilization is off and alot of noise at iso 100... doesn't make any sense. I have the 24-105 g sony and sigma 60-600mm sport new version. Had excellent quality and now my pics are unusable. 😞 I have no idea what to do. $4,000 dollar camera that is lower quality than a 500 dollar camera.
Hi , Is the Full frame Xtra fine 26 MP JPEG also benefitting in Low light on A7R5 compared to 61 MP JPEG. Can u suggest on it . i am basically a JPEG shooter and confused between buying a74 and a7r5 , i have good budget for a7r5 and will pull the plug for it , if 26 MP JPEG is also benefitting in low light. You can shoot in 61MP in good lighning for extra detail and resolution on A7R5 and switch to 26 MP for low light benefits if light goes down. i have seen and read that medium RAW benefit s in low light , but so should 26 MP jpeg too , just wanted to confirm with you on it . Thank you.
I believe that it does. Essentially you are downsampling in camera from the full resolution to the smaller resolution point, which allows for cleaner looking images on a pixel level.
Hi Dustin, very useful review! Once conern I have about the a7RV is the file size (I don't need 61Mpx resolution, and the storage and procesing that brings), so I was very interested in what commented about the mRAW and sRAW, especially with respect to noise at higher ISO (I like to take photos in low light situations). I'm having a hard time deciding whether to go for the a7IV and the a7RV (the first is cheaper, does have better articulated screen than my A6600) but the second has an even more flexible articulated screen and some interesting AI-based features. Still, because photo in low light situations is something important for me, I was wondering whether you had an opinion as to what is best between the low light picture quality of the a/IV and that of the a/RV shooting in mRAW o sRaw... Thanks in advance!
I feel like investing in the a7RV is the better long term strategy. It has newer technology, the MRAW option gives you more versatility in terms of resolution, and having that high resolution can come in handy. You could also sell your a6600 as the 26MP APS-c mode is actually higher quality than your a6600.
Excellent objective review, Dustin. I would like to know your opinion about the lenses which I have for my Sony A7Riii. Is Zeiss 2.8/18, batis 2/25 and sony FE 4/24-105 usefull for the sony A7R V of should I buy for the Sony A7R V other lenses with more quality? All the best from the Netherlands.
I can understand that complication. Fuji and Sony are both on 5th generation products right now, and of course Canon just designated the EOS R5 as such.
I'm debating between this and the A7 IV. The extra pixels are certainly awesome, but not a deal breaker. In terms of Autofocus, is the A7R V much better than the A7 IV? Thanks!
Dustin, is there any way you can take high iso shots (6400 to 12,800) with the same lens on A7iv vs A7Rv on medium Raw? The file size is almost the same and I assume many people would be curious how they stack up. If the A7Rv is the clear winner here, there isn’t any advantage the A7iv has for photos
Very informative video. It is giving me a better understanding of my new camera. I have a question. What is the name of the desk tripod you are using? Thank you
The dynamic range is not hugely different (about 1/2 stop advantage for the GFX), but I would favor the GFX for color rendition and tonality. I wouldn't say the noise is all that different.
Ooo.. u have satisfied my query on whether the down sampling of the 61mp to lower res will improve noise. Cuz thats what phones do to improve noise control. Thanks!
How would you compare the ease of taking sharp photos with this high resolution camera compared with another, but older, high resolution camera, the 5DSR? I was gifted one and find it challenging for the exact reasons outlined in your past review (noise, bilurr, softness) and was wondering if it's worth learning to master it or if my time would be better served shifting to new technology?
A few factors help the newer camera. The inclusion of IBIS gives stability to shots. It’s much better in terms of high ISO performance. It has a better focus system. The 5DSr was fine under ideal conditions, but the a7RV is just an easy camera to use in a wide variety of situations.
Make $750 a day God said "A man has nothing unless it is given to him from above and which of you can make an inch to your height"! Thanks Dustin I still thank God for you and your run through
Great review, I would like to have you test for BIF. As the mirroresscomparison site found its BIF performance worse that the a7iv and a7riv. Would to have seen your test in it
I'm actually in the process of purchasing an a7RV, so I will do further tests, but I would be very surprised if the BIF is worse, as the a7RV has the AI machine learning that really helps tracking.
Great review, as always. Also, am I the only person that uses my pinky underneath as a stability point of contact? I have yet to find a reviewer that does that.
Just wondering..so on my A74..I set my custom operations on the back AF-On as AF-On..and the AE-L as "Eye AF" so I can choose to use the eye or regular focus point when I want and I am usually using Spot:Medium as my Focus Area hence the ability to separate between the focus..but on the A7R5 under AF/MF menu there is no section for the Face/Eye AF itself like it did on the A74 sub section 3) so in essence I can't figure out a way to have the "eye" and regular focus area Medium separately? like I did before..so on the A7R5 I am still using Spot:Medium Focus Area.. I press AF-On and it automatically looks for the eye..which I dont want..I want it separately customized like I did before using the AE-L as my "Eye AF"..the A7R5 did away with the Face/Eye section?..any one with suggestions on how I can have them separately again?..would appreciate it..thanks
Hi there, I only had the a7RV as a loaner, so I can't go in a try to recreate what you are describing. You probably should reach out to Sony about that.
Im an absolute begginer and i bought the a9 because i loved the 3 dials on top. Ive gone to a few parties at night and its ridiculous how these things just work the focus is so good and all you have to do is just tap on the screen. I think these days skill is more important than the camera 😅
Great review! Detailed, concise, and thorough. I will be buying this Sony to replace my Panasonic GH3 which is very long in the tooth. It promised to be a great combo cam. Sadly it did not prove to be that. While it decent videos and ok stills, it was a pain to use because it would only store ONE set of parameters for both. Barely usable. The a7RV is what the GH3 promoted, but did not deliver - a true combo cam that delivers great stills and video. Thanks again for a great review.
I think maybe I will be able to afford one when the A7RX is released. 🤣 I am still rocking the A7III, and recently bought another as a second shooter/back-up camera.
You name yourself “humble_integrity” on the internet THEN start with a comment “a lot of people say” as opposed to speaking from personal experience and research. CHANGE your name mate! you are NEITHER those two words, far from it!
Amen on the knuckles rubbing against the lens. This is my biggest complaint since moving to Sony years ago. And I’ve always needed to use the pinky grip attachment when not using the vertical grip attachment. I think Sony cameras were designed for tiny hands.
What I've been thinking these several months. Will Sony spin off the R series to a medium format system? Sony does make medium format sensors. An increase in resolution for future models makes it sensible. The only issue is a second mount and need to increase production lines for lenses.
That’s an interesting question. It’s true that Sony has pretty much done everything in the full frame mirror less space. Can they make medium format accessible (and commercial) in a way that FUJIFilm has not fully achieved?
Not better. It does have some newer focus algorithms, but the Alpha 1 is still the best focusing camera that Sony makes. More focus points, more processing speed, faster readout, etc...
Great review as always. I’m so tempted to🎉 buy one except for the super slow FPS. CANON can do 40 fps with eshutter in a $1,500 camera. All the great AF performance is wasted for me if only 10 fps or 7 with electronic shutter.
I didn't really notice that either during my review or in the month that I've owned one more recently. Some things get a little exaggerated on RUclips.
Great review as usual. Have you tested any birds in flight or moving subjects? I have an A7RII and had a A7RIV for a few months. I liked the handling of the camera but the auto focus will still not up to snuff when shooting moving subjects. Any thoughts on this? Is this a good alternative to the more expensive A1? Thanks.
Both cameras are awesome. They each have subtle strengths relative to the other, but for me the Sony wins for the whole ecosystem. So many more quality lens choices at a variety of price points.
@@sulev111 seems that many consider the a7iii a great camera for astrophotography . I have the a7iii that I would use for low light and astrophotography and the a7riii for landscape and most other uses. I am thinking about getting the a7rv to replace both. Thoughts?
Hi Dustin, thanks for the very helpful and realistic breakdown and explanation. I intend to get the A7R-V for 3 personal reasons, much better EVF & LCD resolution (to compensate for my weak eyesight) and tilt screen option. I am wondering if I shoot stills in full frame medium Raw or medium jpegs 26MP (not aps-c mode), will the high ISO performance be better/less noisy compared to shooting in full 61MP? I ask because its a common understanding that less megapixel cameras have better high ISO performance than high megapixels cameras. For me high ISO is over 3200 I'd appreciate your input Thanks in advance
Incredibly effective tool that's a pleasure to hold and do work with. You can rest assured that the AF won't disappoint 99.9998% of the time. It's crazy how smart this piece of tech is. Pair it with good quality gm or Sigma art glass and you'll be amazed.
Hi Dustin, thanks for another great review. How is it for attracting sensor dust please? I sold my A7R3a recently after 2 frustrating years because it picked up dust more or less every time I changed lens, despite every precaution outdoors lens changes permits, meaning unseen specks ruined much of my travel video footage. It was something you mentioned as a particular problem in your A7R3 review a few years back, but haven't mentioned since, though I hear people saying the lame non-ultrasonic sensor shaking Sony employs, using just the sensor stabilising motor, is completely ineffectual. This has been my A7R3 experience: not once has the sensor cleaning menu action ever removed a single speck, even afterultiple runs. I held onto my 24mm GM, Zriss 50mm, Samyang 75mm, and Samyang 135mm for Sony, hoping the newer bodies will be more dust resistant. Have they arrived there yet? Very many thanks! Jim
I know exactly what you mean about the a7R3. I had the same issues. Fortunately Sony has radically improved that area of design. Between the option to have the shutter doors closed down to protect the sensor and better coatings, I don't know that I've had to blow off the sensor more than a couple of times...and I obviously change lenses constantly.
When the original A7R was launched it was for about half the price of the A7R 5. I suspect it is not merely inflation and/or feature creep that brought us where we are today. I think that this is an affirmation of the fact that Digital Cameras have (over the last decade) become a MARGINALIZED NICHE product. Point and shoots have basically gone extinct and prosumer SLR/Mirrorless volumes have cratered. Many of the users have happily and lazily become smart phone photographers. What's left are professionals and a few straggling enthusiasts. The market simply isn't there anymore regardless of how cheaply you price the product. Hence, to recover the R&D and tooling we simply have to pay more.
I've been reviewing Sony products since the a7RII, and, frankly, there has been very little price increase over that period despite rampant inflation in many areas. I would say, if anything, these cameras have become more of a bargain in their own way when you consider how much the prices of pretty much everything else have increased.
@@DustinAbbottTWI LOL... I am still shooting the A7RII after all these years... (jeez has it been eight)? -- And, after going through a dozen lenses am now back to the optically "inferior", slow and manual 50/2 and 21/2.8 Loxias for walking around with the 100/2.8 GMSTF for portraits. But, the A7R2 soldiers on...
Great review, thanks! Given your confidence in med-raw quality, do you think med raw would produce equivalent crop capability as full-raw (assume like 50% crop)?
Imaging Edge can import the SML Lossless RAW but most photo viewers will not recognize the file type YET... Adobe LR/PS on CC 23 are not really working yet either but I have not updated in a while. Compressed RAW and Uncompressed RAW do work in PS LR.
I've had this for 2 months or so now. .The most honest thing I can say is that it's like having a cheat code on. Video, autofocus...image quality are sensational. Makes me think the a1ii and the a9iii are gonna be stupidly gd too.the a7r5 is incredible imo
Its £3000 now here in the UK about £1000 more than I wanted to pay, but its just got everything I could need for hybrid work. I plan on getting the Tamron 20-40mm and keeping that lens on permanently. My current lenses are 20 24 35 and 50. I reckon if I put it into crop mode at 40 im covered
That's the way I felt the first time I did tracking with an a9. It was so effortless compared to anything I'd seen on DSLRs.
@@markshirley01 With those lenses you''ll enjoy this camera
Its an excellent second camera for my A1. I love using it and sometimes leave the a1 at home.
@@markshirley01 £3000 in the UK? Where?
Thank you Dustin for the review, as always very nice and through! Probably worth mentioning that Sony added few welcome futters like focus stacking, expanded bulb mode and improved pixel shift mode.
Looking forward for review of new Sony lenses - 70-200GM II and 24-70 GM II :)
I've got those lenses both coming mid-February.
Totally agree Dustin. Not only has Sony added some great features to this camera such as the rear screen and AI focusing, it’s the fact that it’s implemented and tidied up so many minor things that really makes it feel complete. I feel like I’m using a camera from a camera company rather than an electronics company. I’ll mostly use medium raw reserving the large raw for landscape/architecture/macro. I love that I can use medium raw and then use APSC mode to get extra length from the lens with the resolution staying the same.
"I feel like I’m using a camera from a camera company rather than an electronics company." That's a great line. I should have thought it up and used it ;)
You definitely brought up some good points and a great perspective about it being a camera from a camera company instead of an electronics company. You gave me an excellent thing to truly think about!!! Thank you!!! This camera on my to buy list!!!
@@DustinAbbottTWIAndy brought that perspective home!!!
Andy, good comments. I am looking forward to getting mine.
About “…tidied up so many things…”, I can’t comment much because I have no experience with the Alpha series. That said, I’m a retired software engineer with 40+ years experience. What I learned in that time is that many engineers (software, hardware, etc) develop features they think are important but customers do not.
My Panasonic GH3 is full of those features. It got so bad that I stopped using it and just got by with my iPhone for the last several years.
I’ve watched many a7RV You Tubes over the last month or so. My constant reactions have been, “Damn that’s nice.” “Oooh, be still my heart”. “That’s a feature I can use!” 💕. And your comment was right on…. Unlike Panasonic (based on my experience), Sony is a camera company and not an electronics company. The a7R5 is mature and appears to have ALL of the major features that I want.
Excellent video. I just purchased this camera and your video helped to better understand it. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
Glad it was helpful!
Dustin, thanks for the best body and lens reviews (on RUclips or anywhere for that matter). Your reviews are comprehensive, meticulous and always spot on.
My pleasure!
I remember some of your older videos where we both agreed that Sony needed to implement a smaller RAW option. I'm very glad to see that not only they listened, but that the result is really good!
Exactly.
Thanks for the comprehensive photo focused review. It would be a real help to know the limits of the A7RV and operate within the best range for this camera.
My pleasure.
Nice job on the review, as always! I've just spent some time with the camera and have been looking closely at the underexposure recovery, comparing it to the A7rii I also have. Even though the noise is about a half stop worse in the new camera, I'm really pleased with the ability to recover underexposed images. I've found that it's better to underexpose by 4 stops at ISO 100, than it is to correctly expose at ISO 1600. The A7rii could only benefit from a 3 stop push.
The RII has a great sensor for ISO sensitivity, but dynamic range has improved a bit in the RV
@@DustinAbbottTWI yes it has, I think the two things get conflated often. Very closely related, but not the same thing
Thank you Dustin, always enjoying watching your in depth reviews before purchasing any gear.
Curious if there is a difference in dynamic range by going to mraw or sraw, like the advantages you saw in high iso performance?
The only difference might be in the noise levels.
That screen 🤩🤩🤩
(Fujifilm had something along those lines with the T100, alas they left it there.)
It's a shame, as the screen is great on the a7R5
I upgrade my A7Rii to A7RV after 7 years of using only the A7Rii.. I cant be happier. I still shoot my A7rii but man o man... technology move so fast in 7 years time.
Especially the AF.. AF has advance so much over the years.
I can imagine what a huge upgrade that must feel like.
I have this an the fx3… perfect combo. I like it a lot better than the A7IV. Not that it’s bad, it’s just if you want the extras and they have value to you. No brainer.
It's a great camera.
This camera came out 6 months too late for me.
I liked the a7RIV, but it was missing too many QoL features that I was looking for. Hence why I went for the Nikon Z7II and have been very happy with it thus far (albeit without the nice selection of third party lenses on Sony, at least for now).
But it's fantastic to see Sony address pretty much all of my complaints with this revision. They've finally done it.
It's always tough when a company does what you want...a little too late!
But you do have access to those fantastic Nikon Z lenses, which really are the best in the industry.
Nikon is way far behind. I would not invest. Sony, Canon is the way to go.
Dustin, if you were in the market for a video camera, choosing between an FX3 or this A7RV, which one would you go for?
The FX3 is a dedicated video camera, though the a7RV is a very balanced all around camera (I bought one, myself)
Any shutter shock when using full mechanical shutter?
It can be nice to see the m raw a7rv vs a full raw a7iv to see witch one is more noisy
Interesting idea.
If I get A7RV as my first camera with 70-200mm F4 macro G ii and just use standard Yellow iPhone 15 to shoot closer things with its 13mm, 26mm and 52mm, is it good setup if I'm just hobbyist with good understanding of photography and compositions who want to enjoy shooting and use for personal products shots too? I choose Sony over other brands because they have the lens with unique feature I want like super tele with macro ability that I mentioned, power zoom lens and standard zoom that start from ultra wide 20mm and I love Sony as a brand too. I choose this over A7CII/R because of its good EVF and 4 ways tilt screen and smaller body don't give benefit with big lens other than weight saving and people still notice you have a camera, A7RV is like just as small but with a big EVF attached. Should I get another lens right away, I have the 16-35mm F4 PZ G in mind, or I should get something faster and prime that still light weight on gimbal? I don't really care for bokeh, that tele will able to do it too if I want to, I like my photos and videos to have story and creativity and not blur out the contexts.
Also, have you wonder why put so many effort just to take photos and videos and not just use phone camera to record here and there if it's not your primary work and also your content not all will get pass down and value later?
And what camera setup you bring in everyday life and travel, some people use less bulky and performance camera for their own life but use fancy gears for clients and travel, why, isn't everyday life is most parts of our life and important too?
Enjoy!
By they way Dustin, think your video is not public, only accessible via link from your website - just FYI
That's correct. I have a timed release of the full review - it is scheduled for next Monday, but I let people find it via Easter eggs in advance - like you
Camera manufacturers need to be working very hard on developing noiseless, high ISO. Imagine if you could shoot in almost any light with auto ISO on, and never worry about noise.
There's some "physics" to overcome there, but things are improving.
@@DustinAbbottTWI It's going to be difficult, sure, but how nice would it be to shoot above 100,000 ISO with no noise?
Thank you for the detail review of this camera. As tempting as the A7R V is after you showing the mRAW quality at 26MP, I am still going to hold back the upgrade from A7 IV and hoping for A1 II to have the 61MP and more features over the A7R IV.
Hmmm, there's no guarantee that they can do a stacked sensor at the 61MP resolution
@@DustinAbbottTWI Just got to have… faith!😉
A 20% resolution increase doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe in 2 or 3 generations they'll make a significant increase. Hard to imagine 80, 100mp stacked. But, tech can evolve a lot over time
HI DUSTIN, GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS.. CAN YOU PLEASE TELL OR IF POSSIBLE DEMONSTRATE, HOW MUCH CROP AN ACTIVE STABILIZATION MODE AND FOCUS BREATHING COMPENSATION MODE TOGETHER CAUSE ON A SONY 35MM 1.4 GM IN VIDEO MODE. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO BUY THIS LENS. YOUR GUIDANCE WILL HELP A LOT. THANK YOU....
You can actually see that in this video. Just compare the framing of the video without focus breathing compensation on and the one that shows it afterward.
There are a lot of areas to cover like a book I got over 900 pgs. I have the A7s iii and this camera I found noise the same when doing Milky Way capture. This camera was way more sensitive to light at night, Siii 3200 but V had to come down to 800 and a faster SS of 2s vs the 8s both getting excellent sharp stars using NPF for accurate for each model. I only wish for the old playmemories Digital Filter I had on my A7S and A7rii (will never get rid of)- yes in camera processing a sky and foreground of different settings processed in camera with a RAW output. A lot of in store SONY reps never knew about, just bring it back!
That would be a nice feature. It's similar to Fuji's DR200 and DR400 settings.
Sony wants people to suffer sore knuckles because of the camera size as everyone has complained about it since 2013 and they still refuse to make a larger body, Sony shouldn't need feedback about this issue, they designed it and knew that it would cause issues but they don't care, it's about Sony's profit not customer service. The paint wears off after a few months this shows how cheap they make their products. They are made for the disposable market.
I would definitely like to see a larger, more ergonomic Sony camera.
Dustin, this is your most informative review to date. Thank you!
I currently use mostly an a7Riv but I have also used the a7Rv and intend to purchase it. What I learned from this review is that noise in medium compressed lossless RAW is noticeably less than in 61mp capture. For low light, astro, my 61mp a7Riv is actually superior to the a7iv 33mp. The noise is finer grain, easier to suppress in post without losing image detail. else has investigated this, and it is intriguing. Perhaps the new lossless compressed M 26mp will be better yet?
It probably should be, yes.
Watching this at 1440p on an iPad Pro 12.9 inch and I am blown away at the noise performance. None of those look unusable to me, even the higher ISOs have a pleasing grain. I might change my mind if I saw them for myself in a desktop monitor and maybe the 240ppi is helping, but that’s not obnoxious. Maybe you have Lightroom noise reduction switched on? In any case we’ve come a LONG way from what my old digital camera can do, where by the time you hit 1600 it’s utter trash and in practice you don’t want to stray beyond 200 if possible.
We've definitely come a long way.
The quality of the EVF drops drastically when you put in focus.... And yes I have the anti flick turned off... the only way is to put standard quality monitor / evf ...
I have the same problem.
Any reason you use the term “Mark” when talking about Sony cameras? That’s more of a Canon thing, I’ve never heard Sony use the word Mark when referring to their Alpha lineup.
If you look at Sony's description of this camera, it is ILCE-7RM5 - the M refers to Mark.
They may have an M in the model name, but they still don’t “mark” their cameras. it’s not on the box, and it’s not on the body. It could be A7R model 5. If I was Sony, I would want to differentiate from canon in anyway possible definitely wouldn’t use their Mark moniker.
Update for me 9/5/23. Sony is running a sale with rebate and trade-in bonus for a total of $900 USD off om the A7RV, so today I traded my A7RIV in and bought the A7RV, a really nice upgrade to a high-resolution camera I have used around the world and loved the images I have made with it. . Looking forward to all the better features and performance. Have the Viltrox 16mm f1.8 coming too, both from my favorite mom and pop dealer Allen Camera, outside Philadelphia, Pa. Thanks for your always comprehensive and superb test/reviews. This will join my A1 and my A7SIII. Cheers and best to you.
I'm really enjoying the a7RV - probably as much as I have enjoyed any Sony camera, including my A1
@@DustinAbbottTWI sounds great. Cheers and best to you.
The full size RAW to Medium RAW was exactly what I was hoping to see. It could be useful to configure one of the custom dials to a Medium RAW high burst rate setting. At full size RAW it's a bit rough dealing with strings of 123mb files. That works out to over 1gb per second of shooting.
Sure you lose the cropping power, but on the other hand smaller files with some better color performance. If you shoot a static subject you can always swap back to full size image and drop the shutter speed and burst rate. I'm satisfied.
What I'm eager to see is if some of the improvements in the A7RV make it into an A9III.
Exactly.
What do you mean by better color performance on the smaller files?
Thank you Dustin, I really appreciate your reviews. I used to have an A7R3 and upgraded it to A7R5 two weeks ago. I think I will intensively use M-Raw option with this camera. İt is great option for me too :) Sony finally did it this time.
Additionally, could you also review Sony 24-70mm GM 2.8 II and 70-200mm GM 2.8 II lenses, please?
Congrats on your new camera, and, good news, Sony is sending me both of those lenses when I have an available slot in mid-February.
anybody can answer me if the LCD is clear enough for sunny outdoor shooting? my a7r3 was horrible in this aspect...
It's better, for sure, but there are probably still lighting conditions that won't leave you overjoyed with shooting this way.
I own the A7Cii and I recently compared it against my S5ii. I still like Panasonics colors better but I find the Sony AF to be much faster and this new AI processing is pretty much perfect. If you want anything in focus I cannot get this thing to miss. I happily sold my Fuji stuff. Little by little I'm moving over to 100% Sony. Good deals on this one now so the A7RV may be best for me.
thank u for the detailed video! however I would be happy to hear some comparison regarding in body ef. JPEG image quality (high iso/sharpness) as I have no time for raw post processing and so using JPEG. thanks
Just another question, mostly from a Macro photographer's point of view
On my existing FF body (A7R3), I often find myself cropping for the end result
Instead, I could have used the crop mode on my A7R3, thus apart from not being concerned with the area I wouldn't be using anyway (and smaller files), also benefit for that extra DoF
But the crop mode on the A7R3 would give me less than the 24MP of my a6300 - thus, lose somewhat in pixel density and therefore clarity
My question here, with regard to the crop mode of this new A7R5 (26MP?) vs the native a6300 (24MP)
Should I expect to see a fractional increase in terms of IQ whilst shooting with an A7R5 in crop mode (as opposed to my a6300)?
Is a direct comparison as this feasible or am I missing something from the equation?
I watced even though i know i never kan afford one of them..stick to my Nikon d 5600
Sometimes reality bites!
I'm still torn on whether to get this or the A1. So many things to love about the A1 but that price, even with the end of 2023 drop, is still very steep. Great review nonetheless. Didn't know you were a pastor Dustin!
Excellent review Dustin. I certainly agree with your conclusion that the A7R5 is a very complete camera. My first Sony body was the original nex-7. This is when Sony first to introduced the e-mount system.
Since then many of the Sony cameras have suffered with autofocus and image quality issues and actual camera performance. The A7R 5 demonstrates years of r&d that has produced a excellent result. Looking over a recent event shoot that I did I found that I had so many of the profile shots where you could hardly see the eye many of them the subjects had on glasses were perfectly and focus. Even in a recent partridge shoot with my mother the autofocus nailed her eye threw a pair of dark sunglasses. Not to mention how impressed I have been with the cameras ability to quickly transfer images onto my phone. It's not perfect but it is one of the best somebody cameras that I have ever used.
That's great anecdotal feedback.
some great grey import deals on this camera right now .. very tempting .. this truly is a great camera . thanks for your reviews Dustin , I don't know anyone who does reviews like you who I can trust & respect
Thank you for all the detailed reviews you are providing.
May i ask how you would rank AF accuracy (sharp photo %) between A7R V, A7IV, A9 ? (i do wildlife, BIF, and i see mylself cropping as hell, and kind a bit disappointed with A7IV AF keepers [i know i have to improve my skills]).
I would rank them as RV, a9, then a7IV.
I found the same with the A74. Just could not keep up with fast flying birds and pans. I know it was not advertised as a sports camera but it was priced so well with the 200-600.
Have you considered the a1. That stacked sensor means no blackout and your eye never loses sight of your subject as long as you can keep up and the a1 also has Dual Bionz XR. No automatic focus stacking but with practice you can achieve that on your own.
Hi Sir what is the link to get this table tripod plz thank you
Oben Tabletop Tripod shown in video: bhpho.to/3vL8YWy
The frustrating thing for me with this otherwise great camera is the terrible ergonomics. That might seem like a relatively small issue to some people, but it's a huge deal to me. Bad ergonomics just don't inspire or make you feel excited about shooting with the camera.
What exactly do you find terrible about the ergonomics? I do slightly prefer something like the Canon R5 ergonomically, but I also feel like Sony has really refined the ergonomics of the a7R series.
I’m the opposite….I sold my R5 and bought a A7IV became I like the ergonomics better on the newer Sony bodies that the Canons. To each their own, I guess.
@@doogieham So strange, I can't even fathom the A7IV having better ergonomics than an R5.
Another wonderful, well detailed review Dustin, thank you.
My pleasure!
Hi
What is that tripod you are using?
Thanks
Oben Tabletop Tripod shown in video: bhpho.to/3vL8YWy
Excellent work, as always, Dustin! Currently waiting for my a7r v to arrive. Can't wait for it!
Enjoy!
You will love it. Paired with the 135GM its excellent even in low light it just works!
Non è oro quello che luccica, sono possessore di questa fotocamera da due mesi e non vale il suo prezzo. Nessun miglioramento qualitativo anzi a volte inferiore alla sony a7 Sony A7 III.
Been following you for quite sometime, I purchased the a7r5. Have an A1 I’m not going to say anything because I don’t test like you do. But being that you have both. Witch do you think does a better job with Photos
I notice that images are sharper but may be do to improved ibis
Would like to see if god permits a a7rv vs a1 showdown by you. I understand how much work goes into these productions and value your time. Thanks once again
The A1 sensor is slightly compromised by comparison by being stacked and having that very fast readout. In terms of just image quality the a7R5 would be a bit better.
@@DustinAbbottTWI even tho the a1 has Dual Bionz XR to capture that data.
@@DustinAbbottTWIThank you Dustin, your opinion is highly respected. I just didn’t want to admit to myself. But thanks for clearing that up for me.
Is the ISO performance impacted if you go into super35 (crop) mode?
Not really, as the super35 is just cropping a portion of the image. The full frame 26MP does impact ISO because it is downsampling.
@@DustinAbbottTWI It seems to me that he holds the iso as if he were at 60 .. he doesn't work like Leica
Hi Dustin. I am very confused about the real world benefit of 61mp vs 33mp. Seems like the 61mp benefit is just for cropping. Is there a real world image quality benefit when not cropping, in your experience? Thanks so much! Art.
For me it is important for testing lenses, but obviously my needs are much different than most people's. So yes, I would say the main benefit is cropping...though also the ability to have a very useful 26MP APS-C mode. That really does allow you to use even more lenses in a still useful way.
Hey Brother, late to this one :D. As always wonderful review. I just placed an A7RV on order… fixed several needs I’ve discovered with my A7iv… the first one being reach. One of the selling points of the Sony system is it’s lens eco-system, one of the drawbacks is no TC for 3rd party. I snagged a 50-400 for sub $1k and have been loving it, but I really need to get out to 600mm so I’ve been looking seriously at Fuji or Sony A6700 etc. I then ran across a thread on DPR applauding the A7RV’s secret Crop Mode weapon due to it’s 26mp resolution… this effectively gives all my lenses 2 different usable focal lengths. Even though you can just crop in post, the smaller file sizes and the improved AF at distances (BIF etc.) is an amazing feature. I was secretly waiting for a D500 replacement (Z800?), but this is a better solution. I’ve also found I haven’t been using my A7IV as much as my Z6ii since purchasing it and have had a hard time figuring out why till I looked at a higher rez screen on a friends camera… that was it! Because I feel the need to look at everything in post on the lower rez screens of the A7IV it’s a deterrent to me wanting to use it… seems shallow, but that was the reason. The A7RV has the same rear screen rez/dimensions as my Z6ii plus a 9mp EVF! I’m excited to test your M-Raw findings as well. The more I thought this through (and with the current rebates) I decided this was really everything I needed and wanted… such a flexible and well-rounded camera. This setup will give me the reach I’m looking for without purchasing another lens and roughly for the same price as getting an A6700 after selling the A7iv. When I bite the 200-600mm Sony bullet with the 2X TC I could get out to ~1800mm in crop mode! Thanks again Dustin, extremely informative review!
You'll enjoy that ability to crop. It is very useful.
3 months with this thing, everything was perfect then all the sudden I have really bad image quality. Haven't dropped it or done anything differently and now it is giving soft images like the stabilization is off and alot of noise at iso 100... doesn't make any sense. I have the 24-105 g sony and sigma 60-600mm sport new version. Had excellent quality and now my pics are unusable. 😞 I have no idea what to do. $4,000 dollar camera that is lower quality than a 500 dollar camera.
If it is only 3 months old, then it is under warranty. Send it to Sony.
Hi , Is the Full frame Xtra fine 26 MP JPEG also benefitting in Low light on A7R5 compared to 61 MP JPEG. Can u suggest on it .
i am basically a JPEG shooter and confused between buying a74 and a7r5 , i have good budget for a7r5 and will pull the plug for it , if 26 MP JPEG is also benefitting in low light. You can shoot in 61MP in good lighning for extra detail and resolution on A7R5 and switch to 26 MP for low light benefits if light goes down.
i have seen and read that medium RAW benefit s in low light , but so should 26 MP jpeg too , just wanted to confirm with you on it . Thank you.
I believe that it does. Essentially you are downsampling in camera from the full resolution to the smaller resolution point, which allows for cleaner looking images on a pixel level.
Hi Dustin, very useful review! Once conern I have about the a7RV is the file size (I don't need 61Mpx resolution, and the storage and procesing that brings), so I was very interested in what commented about the mRAW and sRAW, especially with respect to noise at higher ISO (I like to take photos in low light situations). I'm having a hard time deciding whether to go for the a7IV and the a7RV (the first is cheaper, does have better articulated screen than my A6600) but the second has an even more flexible articulated screen and some interesting AI-based features. Still, because photo in low light situations is something important for me, I was wondering whether you had an opinion as to what is best between the low light picture quality of the a/IV and that of the a/RV shooting in mRAW o sRaw...
Thanks in advance!
I feel like investing in the a7RV is the better long term strategy. It has newer technology, the MRAW option gives you more versatility in terms of resolution, and having that high resolution can come in handy. You could also sell your a6600 as the 26MP APS-c mode is actually higher quality than your a6600.
Excellent objective review, Dustin.
I would like to know your opinion about the lenses which I have for my Sony A7Riii.
Is Zeiss 2.8/18, batis 2/25 and sony FE 4/24-105 usefull for the sony A7R V of should I buy for the Sony A7R V other lenses with more quality?
All the best from the Netherlands.
Those lenses should be fine. The Batis lenses are no longer top tier in terms of autofocus capabilities, but they are still good optically.
Confusing when reviewers reference “R5” now. I initially think “oh they’re taking about the canon R5.” Then I realize they’re talking about the a7rv
I can understand that complication. Fuji and Sony are both on 5th generation products right now, and of course Canon just designated the EOS R5 as such.
I'm debating between this and the A7 IV. The extra pixels are certainly awesome, but not a deal breaker. In terms of Autofocus, is the A7R V much better than the A7 IV? Thanks!
Frankly both cameras focus great, so if you don't need the extra pixels, the a7IV remains a strong camera.
Thank you ,very helpful. It would be good to see DR for Medium RAW and High ISO, especially for wedding or indoor events
I believe I do demonstrate high ISO MRAW here.
Dustin, is there any way you can take high iso shots (6400 to 12,800) with the same lens on A7iv vs A7Rv on medium Raw? The file size is almost the same and I assume many people would be curious how they stack up. If the A7Rv is the clear winner here, there isn’t any advantage the A7iv has for photos
I do plan on buying an a7RV soon, so that might be an interesting exercise.
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What would be the advantage of having Uncompresssed RAW vs Lossless Compressed? It's lossless!
Agreed. I shoot exclusively in Lossless Compressed.
Just stick a stacked CMOS sensor into it and you've got the next version of the A1. Sony keeps moving the ball forward.
It would be a little more complicated than that, but this is definitely a strong camera.
Very informative video. It is giving me a better understanding of my new camera. I have a question. What is the name of the desk tripod you are using? Thank you
Glad it helps. Oben Tabletop Tripod shown in video: bhpho.to/3vL8YWy
I just picked up my first Sony camera, a Sony a7R iiia for $1400 on ebay. Eventually the V will be that cheap!
That's true. Enjoy your new camera.
How does it compare to GFX 100s purely from image quality (noise, dynamic range, color) point of view ?
The dynamic range is not hugely different (about 1/2 stop advantage for the GFX), but I would favor the GFX for color rendition and tonality. I wouldn't say the noise is all that different.
Fine JPEG files are super nice! No color grade needed and no over sharpness on image quality. 👍🏼 Sony
It's a lovely sensor.
AI AF learning : Learning from what or whom ? I don't quite get this aspects. Where does it take a feedback from in order to improve ?
I think "learning" means that AI recognizes a subject and makes predictive calculations to help track that subject.
Ooo.. u have satisfied my query on whether the down sampling of the 61mp to lower res will improve noise. Cuz thats what phones do to improve noise control. Thanks!
My pleasure.
How would you compare the ease of taking sharp photos with this high resolution camera compared with another, but older, high resolution camera, the 5DSR? I was gifted one and find it challenging for the exact reasons outlined in your past review (noise, bilurr, softness) and was wondering if it's worth learning to master it or if my time would be better served shifting to new technology?
A few factors help the newer camera. The inclusion of IBIS gives stability to shots. It’s much better in terms of high ISO performance. It has a better focus system. The 5DSr was fine under ideal conditions, but the a7RV is just an easy camera to use in a wide variety of situations.
Make $750 a day God said "A man has nothing unless it is given to him from above and which of you can make an inch to your height"! Thanks Dustin I still thank God for you and your run through
Thanks for the feedback.
Hi Dustin, if you do raw shots in lightroom with your sony cams, which profile do you use, adobe standard? Thx.
Typically standard, though for landscapes I'll sometimes go with landscape. I also have built custom color profiles for everything.
Great review, I would like to have you test for BIF. As the mirroresscomparison site found its BIF performance worse that the a7iv and a7riv. Would to have seen your test in it
I'm actually in the process of purchasing an a7RV, so I will do further tests, but I would be very surprised if the BIF is worse, as the a7RV has the AI machine learning that really helps tracking.
Great review, as always. Also, am I the only person that uses my pinky underneath as a stability point of contact? I have yet to find a reviewer that does that.
I can't speak for other reviewers, but I don't do that myself.
Just wondering..so on my A74..I set my custom operations on the back AF-On as AF-On..and the AE-L as "Eye AF" so I can choose to use the eye or regular focus point when I want and I am usually using Spot:Medium as my Focus Area hence the ability to separate between the focus..but on the A7R5 under AF/MF menu there is no section for the Face/Eye AF itself like it did on the A74 sub section 3) so in essence I can't figure out a way to have the "eye" and regular focus area Medium separately? like I did before..so on the A7R5 I am still using Spot:Medium Focus Area.. I press AF-On and it automatically looks for the eye..which I dont want..I want it separately customized like I did before using the AE-L as my "Eye AF"..the A7R5 did away with the Face/Eye section?..any one with suggestions on how I can have them separately again?..would appreciate it..thanks
Hi there, I only had the a7RV as a loaner, so I can't go in a try to recreate what you are describing. You probably should reach out to Sony about that.
Im an absolute begginer and i bought the a9 because i loved the 3 dials on top. Ive gone to a few parties at night and its ridiculous how these things just work the focus is so good and all you have to do is just tap on the screen. I think these days skill is more important than the camera 😅
AF starting with the a9 definitely started to get ridiculously good.
Great review! Detailed, concise, and thorough.
I will be buying this Sony to replace my Panasonic GH3 which is very long in the tooth. It promised to be a great combo cam. Sadly it did not prove to be that. While it decent videos and ok stills, it was a pain to use because it would only store ONE set of parameters for both. Barely usable.
The a7RV is what the GH3 promoted, but did not deliver - a true combo cam that delivers great stills and video.
Thanks again for a great review.
I think you'll like the a7RV. I certainly do.
Hi Thank you . Cant imagine the "free wheel" on the exp comp . Is it lockakble ?
Yes
25:00 I learned something new here. That is a good trick. If I need to go really high ISO, I'll use 26MP mRAW
I saw something similar back on the Canon 5DsR, so I was watching for it here.
Is this the best podcast camera or is there a better one for that, videos + photos for podcasting?
I guess that depends if your photos require very high resolution. There are cheaper alternatives for shooting quality video plus good photos.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I always figured the more resolution the better but I guess too much resolution can be a problem
With this camera, you seem to get all the new features but also no 120 4K video
I think maybe I will be able to afford one when the A7RX is released. 🤣
I am still rocking the A7III, and recently bought another as a second shooter/back-up camera.
LOL
A lot of people say a7r v is useless camera and say a7s3 is better
I’m not sure who these “people” are, but I’m certainly not one of them.
You name yourself “humble_integrity” on the internet THEN start with a comment “a lot of people say” as opposed to speaking from personal experience and research. CHANGE your name mate! you are NEITHER those two words, far from it!
Amen on the knuckles rubbing against the lens. This is my biggest complaint since moving to Sony years ago. And I’ve always needed to use the pinky grip attachment when not using the vertical grip attachment. I think Sony cameras were designed for tiny hands.
Exactly.
Yeah those CFS express cards are great, but they’re pricey $$$, WOW.
It's true. The price of CFE type B cards has started to drop, but not so much with the type A cards that Sony uses.
thanks Dustin now I want another camera tsssss... sorry just kidding but yes sure sounds very nice.
You and me both!
What I've been thinking these several months. Will Sony spin off the R series to a medium format system? Sony does make medium format sensors. An increase in resolution for future models makes it sensible. The only issue is a second mount and need to increase production lines for lenses.
That’s an interesting question. It’s true that Sony has pretty much done everything in the full frame mirror less space. Can they make medium format accessible (and commercial) in a way that FUJIFilm has not fully achieved?
Sir autofocus is better than alpha 1 in this particular model
I was about to buy a camera
So i was confused
Not better. It does have some newer focus algorithms, but the Alpha 1 is still the best focusing camera that Sony makes. More focus points, more processing speed, faster readout, etc...
14:47
You're saying Megapixels but I'm sure you meant Megabytes.
That's correct.
Great review as always. I’m so tempted to🎉 buy one except for the super slow FPS. CANON can do 40 fps with eshutter in a $1,500 camera. All the great AF performance is wasted for me if only 10 fps or 7 with electronic shutter.
Unfortunately that's the nature of the beast, and, to be fair, you're referencing a camera with a much lower resolution point.
Nice video, thanks! But no one word for terrible rolling shutter in video...
I didn't really notice that either during my review or in the month that I've owned one more recently. Some things get a little exaggerated on RUclips.
Great review as usual. Have you tested any birds in flight or moving subjects? I have an A7RII and had a A7RIV for a few months. I liked the handling of the camera but the auto focus will still not up to snuff when shooting moving subjects. Any thoughts on this? Is this a good alternative to the more expensive A1? Thanks.
The a7RV doesn't have the burst rate or buffer depth of the Alpha 1 for sports, but the focus system is top notch.
Dustin I remember your review with the Canon R5 and you really loved it and now the Sony R5 is out how do they compare?
Both cameras are awesome. They each have subtle strengths relative to the other, but for me the Sony wins for the whole ecosystem. So many more quality lens choices at a variety of price points.
I would sell a Kidney for the R V. Guess I have to wait a few more years until my R III dies.
It's a very nice upgrade from the RIII, and hopefully the price has dropped some for you by then.
How would you rate this camera for astrophotography versus the a7iii?
I would personally prefer it. Better handling, a better screen, but then the ability to shoot even at MRAW and get higher resolution than the a7III.
a7III has some circular banding. I wouldn't recommend it for astro.
@@DustinAbbottTWI so you would say that the noise level using MRAW would be better than the a7iii?
@@sulev111 seems that many consider the a7iii a great camera for astrophotography . I have the a7iii that I would use for low light and astrophotography and the a7riii for landscape and most other uses. I am thinking about getting the a7rv to replace both. Thoughts?
@@geopixer I believe even SRAW is better than A7iii.
Dustin, Does this Sony have a screen on sensor for protection from dust and touch? Thanks
You do have the option for the shutter to cover the sensor when it is powered off.
Have you had a chance to evaluate the older Zeiss ZF lenses on the Sony A7R5?
I have not.
20:27 the noise is obvious with ISO 1600 and it's quite noticable.
Higher resolution always results in higher visible noise, though there are options (as I detail) for reducing that.
Hi Dustin, thanks for the very helpful and realistic breakdown and explanation. I intend to get the A7R-V for 3 personal reasons, much better EVF & LCD resolution (to compensate for my weak eyesight) and tilt screen option.
I am wondering if I shoot stills in full frame medium Raw or medium jpegs 26MP (not aps-c mode), will the high ISO performance be better/less noisy compared to shooting in full 61MP?
I ask because its a common understanding that less megapixel cameras have better high ISO performance than high megapixels cameras. For me high ISO is over 3200
I'd appreciate your input
Thanks in advance
Looks like you already answered it around 25:00 and 31:00. thank you for covering that aspect, really important for me
I ended up buying one and regularly use MRAW when the higher resolution is not needed. It’s very useful
Incredibly effective tool that's a pleasure to hold and do work with.
You can rest assured that the AF won't disappoint 99.9998% of the time.
It's crazy how smart this piece of tech is.
Pair it with good quality gm or Sigma art glass and you'll be amazed.
That's pretty much it!
Hi Dustin, thanks for another great review. How is it for attracting sensor dust please? I sold my A7R3a recently after 2 frustrating years because it picked up dust more or less every time I changed lens, despite every precaution outdoors lens changes permits, meaning unseen specks ruined much of my travel video footage. It was something you mentioned as a particular problem in your A7R3 review a few years back, but haven't mentioned since, though I hear people saying the lame non-ultrasonic sensor shaking Sony employs, using just the sensor stabilising motor, is completely ineffectual. This has been my A7R3 experience: not once has the sensor cleaning menu action ever removed a single speck, even afterultiple runs. I held onto my 24mm GM, Zriss 50mm, Samyang 75mm, and Samyang 135mm for Sony, hoping the newer bodies will be more dust resistant. Have they arrived there yet? Very many thanks! Jim
I know exactly what you mean about the a7R3. I had the same issues. Fortunately Sony has radically improved that area of design. Between the option to have the shutter doors closed down to protect the sensor and better coatings, I don't know that I've had to blow off the sensor more than a couple of times...and I obviously change lenses constantly.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Great to hear that, many thanks!
When the original A7R was launched it was for about half the price of the A7R 5. I suspect it is not merely inflation and/or feature creep that brought us where we are today. I think that this is an affirmation of the fact that Digital Cameras have (over the last decade) become a MARGINALIZED NICHE product. Point and shoots have basically gone extinct and prosumer SLR/Mirrorless volumes have cratered. Many of the users have happily and lazily become smart phone photographers. What's left are professionals and a few straggling enthusiasts. The market simply isn't there anymore regardless of how cheaply you price the product. Hence, to recover the R&D and tooling we simply have to pay more.
I've been reviewing Sony products since the a7RII, and, frankly, there has been very little price increase over that period despite rampant inflation in many areas. I would say, if anything, these cameras have become more of a bargain in their own way when you consider how much the prices of pretty much everything else have increased.
@@DustinAbbottTWI LOL... I am still shooting the A7RII after all these years... (jeez has it been eight)?
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And, after going through a dozen lenses am now back to the optically "inferior", slow and manual 50/2 and 21/2.8 Loxias for walking around with the 100/2.8 GMSTF for portraits. But, the A7R2 soldiers on...
Soryy but mu Sony A99 which came out in 2016 has A Fully adjustable LCD Monitor , up , down , left / right etc .
Not quite the same design. The bottom hinging means that the screen on the a99 couldn't be used for front monitoring.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Ok thanks Dustin .
Great review, thanks! Given your confidence in med-raw quality, do you think med raw would produce equivalent crop capability as full-raw (assume like 50% crop)?
I don't know if I completely understand your question. You would have much fewer pixels to crop from, though the quality is still good.
Imaging Edge can import the SML Lossless RAW but most photo viewers will not recognize the file type YET... Adobe LR/PS on CC 23 are not really working yet either but I have not updated in a while. Compressed RAW and Uncompressed RAW do work in PS LR.
Are you sure about that? I had no problem viewing MRAw in Lightroom.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I updated and M RAW works, the S and L are throwing errors.