As a longtime pro I have owned Sony A500, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, A7RIV and currently own A1, A7SIII and yes I added the A7RV. And I have never had dust on the sensor issues, ever. And yes I shoot all subjects all over the world, including in dusty, sandy places and yes I change lenses in the field. It is all about a few simple techniques in pre-cleaning with a blower bulb (including the rear of each lens), and proper mounting and dismounting lenses with the camera lens opening facing down to avoid dust on the sensor, and shielding the camera with my body when changing lenses in the wind. And my images dont have dust, just a fact. I have owned Nikon, Canon and Leica digital cameras as a pro of over 50 years in the business, and my Sonys have never had worse dust issues than any of them. Cheers and best to you both.
Honestly i'm not too big a sony fan boy. I work on the field as a travel photographer and videographer so i'll use whatever works but i couldn't agree more with this statement. Have owned every generation under the sun of sony and never had this dust issue there referring too.
@@robmcd Me too. I've completely stopped buying sony stuff. Waiting on Nikon's new body models to implement a dust protector so I can sell all my sony bodies and canon gears. They sure take their sweet time.
One minor correction: you do not need to tap the screen to turn tracking on and off in video. Just program one of the buttons for “Tracking On” in video mode, or better yet, program it for “Tracking on Toggle.” This will immediately address Jordan’s complaint at 08:22, and it works perfectly. The setting can be found on page 2 (“Focus Area”) of the purple Focus Menu section when you go to program a button via “Custom Key/Dial Set.” on page 3 of the yellow toolbox section. Admittedly, it’s hidden, but it’s there and it’s awesome.
One minor correction: you do not need to tap the screen to turn tracking on and off in video. Just program turbo encabulation in the “Marzel Vane” sub-submenu, in the purple section of the Double Secret Configuration menu, which you can access by sacrificing a chicken and hopping on one foot in a circle while chanting “Sony, Sony, Sony is our God.” Using the tracking functionality this way does require implantation of a very thin tungsten wire in your dominant eyeball, but the operation is almost painless and does keep you from noticing the dust specks as a bonus. So you see, it's actually very simple!
@@jlwilliams I don’t disagree that Sony should never have buried this setting, but my point is that it is there and it works to perfection. Once you are aware of it, it takes very little effort to set it up the first time and then it’s always a single button press away from being toggled on or off.
It wasn't easy to save enough money to purchase an A7RV but I was able to finally afford one. I wanted this camera because of its AF and resolution. I am not into video much so I figured that, for portraits, family pics, landscape, it was the ideal camera. I haven't been disappointed. This camera is awesome. I have been watching a lot of videos about new cameras in the last couple of years. One thing is common among the different models. They all offer compromises. Enjoy shooting, everybody.
The a7rV can initialize tracking with a button in photo and video mode. Its called "Tracking on" and "Tracking on + AF On" for photo and "Tracking On" and "Trackin on Toggle" for Video on Page 22 in Custom Key assignment menu. It can also be set with Touch pad enabled with the thumb when you use the EVF. Im not a fan of using the delicate shutter to catch dust and debris. If something needs protection on a camera its the shuttermechanism. Just have one of those blowers with you and clean your sensor befor a shoot. 4K60 has a way faster readout speed than 4K30. You could use that and just export in 30 fps at the end. This is a phot camera first and i think its very good for the sensor if you think about how limited the rIV was
I think this is a "Photo-first All-round" camera, which has the best photo quality and absolutely good-enough-for-most video capabilities. The A1 is an "All-round" camera which does not win the best, but still always can stand on at least the second best place in almost every aspect. And for the S3 it's a video camera for sure.
As an A7R IV user I ordered the new body immediately when I got the money. It's simply a whole new level of experience that much of the pain caused by slower processor is gone.
@@MarS-dc2qx It is great to use. Auto focus is almost magical to use that it never misses a subject. IBIS is greatly improved and useable to do hand held shots using my 70-200 GM. The screen is vivid, sharp and bright. EVF is top notch as well. Really nothing to complain about photography. One thing tho, don't buy the 80GB CFExpress Type A card. I got a two pack and realized they only have one NAND flash chip inside and can only do half of the rated speed. get the 160 GB version or look for some nice UHS-II SD cards.
@@SoftKitty0930, get the new Angelbird 1TB. Prograde 160GB cost $365 (Sony Tough 160GB cost ~$400) or $2.27/GB while Angelbird 1TB cost $499 or $0.50/GB. That’s ~4.54x more per GB. Will get mine in a week or so test it out.
And still no final review on the A7 IV... Not that I'd need it anymore, now that I've bought it. Just reminding you guys of your promises ;) That aside, thank you for your great service!
Finally upgraded my 7yr old 7R2 to this.... Enjoying all the new features especially the improved eye/face AF and latest IBIS which really helps my wife to be able to take sharper portraits
@@Galeidan Sony did it with the A99 before panny 🙃 So it's been there this whole time but I guess Sony decided that consumers rather had a slightly smaller body.
@@ying20000818 Yes but A99 design is different. You can't get the screen on the side of the camera. Only below (if I am not mistaken?) Tripod etc would block the view also in that case. I prefer Panasonic S1H and Sony A7RV screen designs much more.
Just more confirmation that you will ALWAYS have to compromise on the video or photo side of things. If you are primarily a still photo shooter, this camera looks awesome. If you shoot more video than stills, there are probably too many compromises. As someone who is finally making the switch to mirrorless, more for the video capabilities than anything, I am struggling to know which way to go (as I don't know how much video shooting I will wind up doing as it is pretty new to me).
@@halcyon1981 Have a check on the Photons to Photos site and you would notice that everything comes with a price, and for the A1 it loses just a tiny bit of dynamic range, probably due to the design of stacked sensor. The same also applies to Z9 and A9. The high read out speed does cost a little bit on the IQ. And the A1/Z9 cannot do full-width 4k 120p read out like the A7S3 does. So... yeah, everything compromises, either here or there.
Awesome review! Upgraded from the R4 to the R5 and I am totally loving everything about the camera as a strict photo camera. I do zero video. I really love the improved ibis, evf, AF, pixelshift motion correction and that flip screen that lets you put in vertical mode (landscape shooters totally will love this). Also finally we have focus stacking and improved EVF. Not sure what I'd want out of a camera focused on stills.
full width sample is pixel binning, its not as bad as line skipping sub sampled. It's basically same as A1, and from result the sharpness is like A7S3 in 4K so it would be great to use full width mode.
It's rare that I find Jordan making a mistake about some feature on a camera - but as Patrick Murphy-Racey demonstrates on his channel, A7RV does have Tracking On where you can use the use the joystick to initiate tracking, rather than the Touch screen. Even on the A7IV, if you use Touch Pad+Touch Panel (i.e. Both valid), and Spot Focus Area with Touch Tracking Active, you can use the rear LCD as a giant touch pad to move your Focus spot to your desired subject and initiate Tracking. So the criticism is unjustified, though as usual Sony could have explained or shown off these features more clearly.
Been waiting for this review, ever since the A7R5 launch. Detailed but concise, and covers every basis I wanted. On paper, it looked like the perfect camera for me (mainly video with casual photo) but with that crop, subsampling and rolling shutter performance, I'll probably wait for the A7 Mark 5 or the A7S4, if that ever comes out.
The screen and EVF alone make it worth the upgrade from A7iv. Highly recommend shooting in 26MP RAW(M) mode which is more than enough for most people. The AWB is improved as well. I’ve compared the video compared to my A7iv and it’s virtually impossible to tell the difference unless pixel peeping. And rolling shutter is non-existent in 4K/60p with regular motion speeds. A7RV is a great camera and will be for many years to come.
I truly dislike the screen situation on the a7iv and luckily they admitted that they were wrong, but another 1500-2000€ extra for the screen and the EVF is just not what I would want to pay. Better get some of the fancy lenses and wait for the a7v. 34mpx is just perfect... wished though it would have a high-res-mode aswell... but that mode on Sonys is still ... garbage sadly. Still a lot to improve.
Sony camera has come a long way. I dont take video so video function not a problem for me. But only a small rant about Sony camera is. Their lcd screen still alot less res compare to the market. For eg A1 only 1.44m. And A7rv only 2m. I shoot live view alot so i would appreciate higher res lcd.
I'm a skydiver who does video and photography. I rented the R V, but never got a chance to use it while skydiving. I did get to use it for more than a few pictures of my FURKIDS. I love it... :D
I am a Canon fan Boy, Got R5, have missed a few moments with auto focus, after using my friends A7RV, not easy to navigate thru menus like my canon, But Sony's Auto Focus is Simply Stunning, Spot on and fast
I get the feeling that the camera market is moving towards the phone market in terms of product strategy. Companies pump out bodies to cover the whole spectrum, which makes it increasingly more difficult to choose and next to that, iterations are following each other quite fast. Especially Canon is doing this with the R-line and the fast re-iteration of the R6. I would hope companies release fewer models and stand by those for multiple years with support and software updates. Could be more expensive, but it would give you more trust that you bought a piece of equipment that is not outdated within 2 years.
I just use those dust swabs constantly on my a7riv. I can see any speck on it everytime I change my lens. Works like a charm, don’t be afraid to go hard it can handle it.
No, it is not. I returned the A7R5. Autofocus sucks, here I mean the tracking. Especially for small birds what I am doing. A1 is king and this by a huge margin.
The A7rV is clearly better for people photography (eye detection and stabilization). It's definitively worse for video and for sports / action (the tracking of the A7rV is as slow as the A7rIV).
Great review as always guys! Thanks. Actually considering this camera right now. About that rolling shutter issue. If I'm not moving my hand so fast and not playing drums will it still be a nice choice for vlogging? Thanks!
I didn't see any rolling shutters when the guy was running. I wish the rolling shutter example would have been more practical. It's as if you are saying a boat is bad for the water because if you rock yourself enough it tips over.
I used my Riii for 4 years and i never get any major sensor dust. Nothing that i cant blow away anyway. Interesting to hear how many people suffer from this issue which makes me question if the lens changing technique is the issue here.
8:27 you can turn the tracking on by using a custom button “tracking on” . Patrick Murphy Racey did a couple of videos on for setup. One of my favorite updates
Didnt expect this video to drop. I thought review video for a7rv is over and done with. Been using only the a7rii for past 7 years since launch. Just got my a7rv 2mths ago and i cant be happier. Technology has improve so much. Altho the a7rv noise level and af speed isnt the top notch. But its certainly more than enough for most situation or at least for me who just take photo for hobby. Love it.
I can’t believe a brand new high-end camera in 2023 still has dust on sensor issues, even while implementing an ultrasonic filter! I have Fuji’s and Canon’s that are far-far from new models incorporating said filter, and absolutely no dust on sensor issues what so ever!
Hi , Is the Full frame Xtra fine 26 MP JPEG also benefitting in Low light on A7R5 compared to 61 MP JPEG. Can u suggest on it . i am basically a JPEG shooter and confused between buying a74 and a7r5 , i have good budget for a7r5 and will pull the plug for it , if 26 MP JPEG is also benefitting in low light. You can shoot in 61MP in good lighning for extra detail and resolution on A7R5 and switch to 26 MP for low light benefits if light goes down. i have seen and read that medium RAW benefit s in low light , but so should 26 MP jpeg too , just wanted to confirm with you on it . Thank you.
If I just wanted less rolling shutter & didn't care for details & zooming in post. Would 1080p APSC/FF help at all? Like a pick your poison wherein I go 4K on less dynamic movement shots, then go 1080p since we're going to be seeing motion & motion blur anyway so slightly eff the details. I mean, I still consume most of my media between 480p/720p/1080p. Social media videos that require little brainpower & are ethereal pop-up in 360p sometimes. So 1080p is already a sweet spot. I only go 2.7K/4K when I want to see sweat & pores in dramatic media... like catwalks. Ugh.
@@dpreview Do y'all have a Laowa ultra wide available for testing? The new eIS for motion looks great but always seems geared for longer focal lengths. I would love to see what stabilization looks like for wide. Especially since I hear that feature is being updated by firmware.
Thanks for the video. I was thinking to replace my A7RIV for the A7RV, for stills (99.9% of the use), but I'll wait for a new model with dramatic enhancements.
Rewatching this. I own this and I’m really a stills only shooter so I’m not worried that the video performance is sub par. So many cameras with sub par stills capability. Have other cameras if I really cared about video. Take care.
“Video focus like Nikon”- does customising lens button to tracking + AF on do the trick. What I do find confusing though is video mode and photo mode doesn’t allow the same customisation instructions - some focus instructions allowed in one , but not on the other . Probably for good reason but needs getting use to
I’ve taken over 240,000 images on my A7RIV and only needed to blow the dust off my sensor twice with the rubber bulb blower. I never needed a professional cleaning with it. I don’t change lenses that often using mostly 3 lenses for real estate. However, my A7III needed to be cleaned twice a week! That used to drive me crazy…
Thanks for this in depth review boys. Sounds like the rolling shutter problem for video is pretty bad but would cranking the shutter speed mitigate if not completely resolve this issue?
Video Request. Hi dp review team :) can you please make a video regarding the best mirrorless camera to film wildlife as a priority so stills are not important at all, budget would be though thx
These final reviews are proving to be vastly more useful than anything else. Thank you. Not gonna consider it. As an FX3 shooter that rolling shutter is unacceptable to me now.
@@bigd7696 ha, usually one of two things. People and Macro. To this day I’m still so pleased with the performance. That said okay some point I want a higher MP camera for photos and a bit of video too.
I'm using a clip-in filter inside my Sonys. Because it's millimeters in front of the sensor, dust doesn't show up in your images. I don't understand why Sony doesn't put the UV/Infrared filter a few millimeters in front of the sensor instead of right on top of it.
Which camera would you get today if you not really needed Full Format. APS-C will work fine for me. Which brand to look at (and model). Ive been using most of the brands on the market, but Im a bit out of update which the current lineups. I will have the camera as a pro amateur (if thats something). Photography is my thing, video for a very secondary use.
Do not compare the noise on dpreview website: they used a lossless compressed raw. The file is about 80MB, when the uncompressed full quality raw file is over 110MB.
You do realise the entire point of lossless compression is that it's full quality, right? That's the entire point, it's lossless. The only reason Sony kept the uncompressed format is because their camera processors aren't fast enough at doing lossless compression to keep up with their faster shooting modes.
I've A6600 right now but like to jump into fullframe. I want to get the RV but I think it is out of my price range. I wonder how is RV as compared to RIV? I just want to take pictures. My video's will be handled by the 6600. I'm really interested in the wildlife photography.
A6600 and A7R IV came out around the same time, so many of the features are simliar. The biggest differences will be the body, viewfinder, resolution (including Pixel Shift), and readout speed issues. You're better off going with a used A9 for the money if you're looking at wildlife.
@@slam5 The main reason to move up to FF for portrait work is to get shallower DOF. Going to the A7R IV, you're also getting a lot more resolution. The question is: do you need either of those? Without them, it's very hard to see a difference between those cameras in the end result. Using APS-C, you're losing around 1 stop of DOF control vs FF, and adding 1.5x to the focal length. So a Sigma 56/1.4 on APS-C is equivalent to 85/2 on FF. A Sony 50/1.2 GM is equivalent to 75/1.6. So as you can see, 1.6 is about as shallow as you'll get on APS-C if you need AF, while you can get 1/2 on FF. With MF, there are 0.95 lenses that are roughly 1.4 on APS-C, and an 0.85 that's equal to 1.3, which is as fast as you're going to get. So it all depends on how far you want to blur out the background and potentially the subject's nose and even eyebrows on a close up headshot.
Question for A7RV owners. I shoot waves in the ocean with a waterhousing. Currently have the A7R3 and im going to upgrade. You think the AF will be good for waves?
You can select AF tracking to every custom buttons. I use it to lens focus hold buttons. Works perfectly. Please make you home work before you bashing it to review.
A7Siv will be the one for pro video people who need perfection. Hopefully feature the same articulating display. My guess it will appear in March 2023. No rumour, but there is the IFA electronics trade show in Berlin then and it would make sense to show it there. I have an A7Siii and the fact Sony have not compromised on the video front is why it is so good.
I film birds at 20-150ft away. The sweet spot is about halfway. What camera/lens combo would work best for video? Currently using a Nikon P950. The amount of shots I missed from being slow is frustrating. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks
I was hoping so much for this and the a7iv, but the slower fps compared to other camera brands bummed me out. I was holding out on the r5 for both of those to compare for getting to sports and wildlife. Excellent photo quality, but was hoping for more speed without having to go up to a1 prices. Perhaps the next gen will improve read out speeds. I’m still excited for future of photography.
As a longtime pro I have owned Sony A500, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, A7RIV and currently own A1, A7SIII and yes I added the A7RV. And I have never had dust on the sensor issues, ever. And yes I shoot all subjects all over the world, including in dusty, sandy places and yes I change lenses in the field. It is all about a few simple techniques in pre-cleaning with a blower bulb (including the rear of each lens), and proper mounting and dismounting lenses with the camera lens opening facing down to avoid dust on the sensor, and shielding the camera with my body when changing lenses in the wind. And my images dont have dust, just a fact. I have owned Nikon, Canon and Leica digital cameras as a pro of over 50 years in the business, and my Sonys have never had worse dust issues than any of them. Cheers and best to you both.
Honestly i'm not too big a sony fan boy. I work on the field as a travel photographer and videographer so i'll use whatever works but i couldn't agree more with this statement. Have owned every generation under the sun of sony and never had this dust issue there referring too.
OOOh. You are my hero. Can I touch you?
Seconds before the issue of dust came up, I tried to wipe my computer monitor thinking it was dirty.
Same!
Newb
Since leaving Sony for the canon R5 I’m yet to need to clean dust after 2 and a bit years. I do miss Sony just because of their lens selections z
@@robmcd Me too. I've completely stopped buying sony stuff. Waiting on Nikon's new body models to implement a dust protector so I can sell all my sony bodies and canon gears. They sure take their sweet time.
Same
One minor correction: you do not need to tap the screen to turn tracking on and off in video. Just program one of the buttons for “Tracking On” in video mode, or better yet, program it for “Tracking on Toggle.” This will immediately address Jordan’s complaint at 08:22, and it works perfectly. The setting can be found on page 2 (“Focus Area”) of the purple Focus Menu section when you go to program a button via “Custom Key/Dial Set.” on page 3 of the yellow toolbox section. Admittedly, it’s hidden, but it’s there and it’s awesome.
Shout out to PM-R . He did a video on this a few weeks ago. GBO
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One minor correction: you do not need to tap the screen to turn tracking on and off in video. Just program turbo encabulation in the “Marzel Vane” sub-submenu, in the purple section of the Double Secret Configuration menu, which you can access by sacrificing a chicken and hopping on one foot in a circle while chanting “Sony, Sony, Sony is our God.” Using the tracking functionality this way does require implantation of a very thin tungsten wire in your dominant eyeball, but the operation is almost painless and does keep you from noticing the dust specks as a bonus. So you see, it's actually very simple!
@@jlwilliams I don’t disagree that Sony should never have buried this setting, but my point is that it is there and it works to perfection. Once you are aware of it, it takes very little effort to set it up the first time and then it’s always a single button press away from being toggled on or off.
@@jlwilliams lol you just made my day
@@jlwilliams Lowbrow Canon user alert...
It wasn't easy to save enough money to purchase an A7RV but I was able to finally afford one. I wanted this camera because of its AF and resolution. I am not into video much so I figured that, for portraits, family pics, landscape, it was the ideal camera. I haven't been disappointed. This camera is awesome.
I have been watching a lot of videos about new cameras in the last couple of years. One thing is common among the different models. They all offer compromises.
Enjoy shooting, everybody.
What did you have before the A7RV?
@@HaggenKennedy I had an A7C for a little while, a Fujifilm X-T4 and, before that, a Pentax K-1.
Which do you suggest get the A7R IV (in discounted price) or get the A7R V (which is freaking expensive only body) will cost you so much.
@@louiefajardo1518the a7rv is $2700 with edu discount at b&h right now
The a7rV can initialize tracking with a button in photo and video mode. Its called "Tracking on" and "Tracking on + AF On" for photo and "Tracking On" and "Trackin on Toggle" for Video on Page 22 in Custom Key assignment menu. It can also be set with Touch pad enabled with the thumb when you use the EVF.
Im not a fan of using the delicate shutter to catch dust and debris. If something needs protection on a camera its the shuttermechanism. Just have one of those blowers with you and clean your sensor befor a shoot.
4K60 has a way faster readout speed than 4K30. You could use that and just export in 30 fps at the end. This is a phot camera first and i think its very good for the sensor if you think about how limited the rIV was
I think this is a "Photo-first All-round" camera, which has the best photo quality and absolutely good-enough-for-most video capabilities. The A1 is an "All-round" camera which does not win the best, but still always can stand on at least the second best place in almost every aspect. And for the S3 it's a video camera for sure.
I ordered the A7R V when it first released and it has been an absolutely treat to use for photography. I am glad Chris validated my opinion haha.
As an A7R IV user I ordered the new body immediately when I got the money. It's simply a whole new level of experience that much of the pain caused by slower processor is gone.
How has it been I am thinking of buying it soon
@@MarS-dc2qx It is great to use. Auto focus is almost magical to use that it never misses a subject. IBIS is greatly improved and useable to do hand held shots using my 70-200 GM. The screen is vivid, sharp and bright. EVF is top notch as well. Really nothing to complain about photography. One thing tho, don't buy the 80GB CFExpress Type A card. I got a two pack and realized they only have one NAND flash chip inside and can only do half of the rated speed. get the 160 GB version or look for some nice UHS-II SD cards.
@@SoftKitty0930, get the new Angelbird 1TB.
Prograde 160GB cost $365 (Sony Tough 160GB cost ~$400) or $2.27/GB while Angelbird 1TB cost $499 or $0.50/GB. That’s ~4.54x more per GB.
Will get mine in a week or so test it out.
@@nomad0714 Gosh I have been drooling over the Angelbird 1TB card since I saw it on the news.
Whenever dp review uploads its like a mini Christmas present anytime of the year
I swear every video Chris says 'DP Review TV' quicker than the one before!
that's right! you tell him, buddy!
your slowing down in your old age!
And still no final review on the A7 IV... Not that I'd need it anymore, now that I've bought it. Just reminding you guys of your promises ;) That aside, thank you for your great service!
Finally upgraded my 7yr old 7R2 to this.... Enjoying all the new features especially the improved eye/face AF and latest IBIS which really helps my wife to be able to take sharper portraits
Did you recycle it properly ?
Yes somebody bought it at a great price
Hope this will bring back the joy I first discovered digital shooting in 2008.
But I know those days were long gone.
Sony needs to release an upgraded FX3 incorporating all the latest features mentioned here
I want this camera solely for the swivel/tilt screen. All cameras for ever and always need to implement the same design.
Panasonic S1H did this already in 2019. No idea if it was the first one. But yes this is excellent design.
@@Galeidan Shoutout to Panasonic!!!
@@Galeidan Sony did it with the A99 before panny 🙃
So it's been there this whole time but I guess Sony decided that consumers rather had a slightly smaller body.
@@ying20000818 This. You can see how thick the screen setup is now vs the very slim tilt panel.
@@ying20000818 Yes but A99 design is different. You can't get the screen on the side of the camera. Only below (if I am not mistaken?) Tripod etc would block the view also in that case. I prefer Panasonic S1H and Sony A7RV screen designs much more.
Just more confirmation that you will ALWAYS have to compromise on the video or photo side of things. If you are primarily a still photo shooter, this camera looks awesome. If you shoot more video than stills, there are probably too many compromises. As someone who is finally making the switch to mirrorless, more for the video capabilities than anything, I am struggling to know which way to go (as I don't know how much video shooting I will wind up doing as it is pretty new to me).
You don't have to compromise, you can buy the A1 and get everything you want. It just costs more.
@@halcyon1981 Have a check on the Photons to Photos site and you would notice that everything comes with a price, and for the A1 it loses just a tiny bit of dynamic range, probably due to the design of stacked sensor. The same also applies to Z9 and A9. The high read out speed does cost a little bit on the IQ. And the A1/Z9 cannot do full-width 4k 120p read out like the A7S3 does. So... yeah, everything compromises, either here or there.
Awesome review! Upgraded from the R4 to the R5 and I am totally loving everything about the camera as a strict photo camera. I do zero video. I really love the improved ibis, evf, AF, pixelshift motion correction and that flip screen that lets you put in vertical mode (landscape shooters totally will love this). Also finally we have focus stacking and improved EVF. Not sure what I'd want out of a camera focused on stills.
Sony A7RV has been great. I mainly don’t shoot video but when I do 4K 30p or 60p works best for me.
I hate the yellow background colour but jeez Chris is well lit!!! Kudos Jordan
Really looking for the final review of the new Fujifilm cameras!
full width sample is pixel binning, its not as bad as line skipping sub sampled. It's basically same as A1, and from result the sharpness is like A7S3 in 4K so it would be great to use full width mode.
It's rare that I find Jordan making a mistake about some feature on a camera - but as Patrick Murphy-Racey demonstrates on his channel, A7RV does have Tracking On where you can use the use the joystick to initiate tracking, rather than the Touch screen. Even on the A7IV, if you use Touch Pad+Touch Panel (i.e. Both valid), and Spot Focus Area with Touch Tracking Active, you can use the rear LCD as a giant touch pad to move your Focus spot to your desired subject and initiate Tracking. So the criticism is unjustified, though as usual Sony could have explained or shown off these features more clearly.
Thanks! I’ll add a correction to the video description and set that up in my camera immediately!
-Jordan
2:24 is the funniest thing I've seen this year.
Shutter closed while lens off and Focus Color changing are also available on A7IV, not new to A7rV.
Loved the shot with the spoon :D
Great review guys! Love the Uri Geller shot 😂
Been waiting for this review, ever since the A7R5 launch. Detailed but concise, and covers every basis I wanted. On paper, it looked like the perfect camera for me (mainly video with casual photo) but with that crop, subsampling and rolling shutter performance, I'll probably wait for the A7 Mark 5 or the A7S4, if that ever comes out.
The screen and EVF alone make it worth the upgrade from A7iv. Highly recommend shooting in 26MP RAW(M) mode which is more than enough for most people. The AWB is improved as well. I’ve compared the video compared to my A7iv and it’s virtually impossible to tell the difference unless pixel peeping. And rolling shutter is non-existent in 4K/60p with regular motion speeds. A7RV is a great camera and will be for many years to come.
I truly dislike the screen situation on the a7iv and luckily they admitted that they were wrong, but another 1500-2000€ extra for the screen and the EVF is just not what I would want to pay. Better get some of the fancy lenses and wait for the a7v. 34mpx is just perfect... wished though it would have a high-res-mode aswell... but that mode on Sonys is still ... garbage sadly. Still a lot to improve.
@@MudvayneS10 34MP is perfect.. here I am looking forward to 100MP from the next A1.
Sony camera has come a long way. I dont take video so video function not a problem for me. But only a small rant about Sony camera is. Their lcd screen still alot less res compare to the market. For eg A1 only 1.44m. And A7rv only 2m. I shoot live view alot so i would appreciate higher res lcd.
@@mjingj Well I use the whole aperture range so in my case it fits :D Not everyone is shooting portrait and landscape, I know.
@@MudvayneS10 more MP means more detail, smaller noise, more cropping… bigger files. More is better
Great review. It just confirms for me, that I will stay with my A7RIV until they make the 100MP version of the A7RV..... and I'm waiting.
@dpreviewtv. Sorry. What does it mean to "telegram"? I'd love to know what this all means. Thanks. eavilev
@@eavilev Beware of requests to Telegram in RUclips comments, they're almost universally scammers
@@bosstowndynamics5488 Thanks. I'll ignore it.😎
We need a compilation Jordan tracking video!
I'm a skydiver who does video and photography. I rented the R V, but never got a chance to use it while skydiving. I did get to use it for more than a few pictures of my FURKIDS. I love it... :D
I liked this format a lot better than other recent DP Review videos, kudos!
I was afraid video would be foul compromise...
I am a Canon fan Boy, Got R5, have missed a few moments with auto focus, after using my friends A7RV, not easy to navigate thru menus like my canon, But Sony's Auto Focus is Simply Stunning, Spot on and fast
Thanks for making this video as a new A7R5 owner. Really good info!
Hmm I think I need that screen on EVERY camera going forward.
The Ai AF system will make it’s way into future cameras. Where you at A7V?
I get the feeling that the camera market is moving towards the phone market in terms of product strategy. Companies pump out bodies to cover the whole spectrum, which makes it increasingly more difficult to choose and next to that, iterations are following each other quite fast. Especially Canon is doing this with the R-line and the fast re-iteration of the R6.
I would hope companies release fewer models and stand by those for multiple years with support and software updates. Could be more expensive, but it would give you more trust that you bought a piece of equipment that is not outdated within 2 years.
I just use those dust swabs constantly on my a7riv. I can see any speck on it everytime I change my lens. Works like a charm, don’t be afraid to go hard it can handle it.
This camera is almost as good as the A1, it’s also what the Sony A1 mark II is going to be, 8K 60fps with 40fps 61mpx burst.
No, it is not. I returned the A7R5. Autofocus sucks, here I mean the tracking. Especially for small birds what I am doing. A1 is king and this by a huge margin.
@@josefmolina3510 quite the big difference still between stacked vs unstacked sensors
Nowhere nearly as good...
The A7rV is clearly better for people photography (eye detection and stabilization). It's definitively worse for video and for sports / action (the tracking of the A7rV is as slow as the A7rIV).
This camera is nowhere near the A1 on so many levels.
Great review as always guys! Thanks. Actually considering this camera right now. About that rolling shutter issue. If I'm not moving my hand so fast and not playing drums will it still be a nice choice for vlogging? Thanks!
I didn't see any rolling shutters when the guy was running. I wish the rolling shutter example would have been more practical. It's as if you are saying a boat is bad for the water because if you rock yourself enough it tips over.
What about the legendary IBIS? I feel this is the best new feature of this camera, and a change of direction for sony
I used my Riii for 4 years and i never get any major sensor dust. Nothing that i cant blow away anyway. Interesting to hear how many people suffer from this issue which makes me question if the lens changing technique is the issue here.
8:27 you can turn the tracking on by using a custom button “tracking on” . Patrick Murphy Racey did a couple of videos on for setup. One of my favorite updates
ruclips.net/video/lH8jEynh55o/видео.html
Link to PM-R’s video
Didnt expect this video to drop. I thought review video for a7rv is over and done with. Been using only the a7rii for past 7 years since launch. Just got my a7rv 2mths ago and i cant be happier. Technology has improve so much. Altho the a7rv noise level and af speed isnt the top notch. But its certainly more than enough for most situation or at least for me who just take photo for hobby. Love it.
I can’t believe a brand new high-end camera in 2023 still has dust on sensor issues, even while implementing an ultrasonic filter! I have Fuji’s and Canon’s that are far-far from new models incorporating said filter, and absolutely no dust on sensor issues what so ever!
Probably because the ultrasonic cleaning doesn't work automatically. You have to explicitly activate each time it is needed.
What a team! Excellent thanks.
Thanks for the info! I was thinking about updating my A7RIV for better video, but it sounds like that's not a good enough reason to upgrade.
Hi , Is the Full frame Xtra fine 26 MP JPEG also benefitting in Low light on A7R5 compared to 61 MP JPEG. Can u suggest on it .
i am basically a JPEG shooter and confused between buying a74 and a7r5 , i have good budget for a7r5 and will pull the plug for it , if 26 MP JPEG is also benefitting in low light. You can shoot in 61MP in good lighning for extra detail and resolution on A7R5 and switch to 26 MP for low light benefits if light goes down.
i have seen and read that medium RAW benefit s in low light , but so should 26 MP jpeg too , just wanted to confirm with you on it . Thank you.
If I just wanted less rolling shutter & didn't care for details & zooming in post. Would 1080p APSC/FF help at all?
Like a pick your poison wherein I go 4K on less dynamic movement shots, then go 1080p since we're going to be seeing motion & motion blur anyway so slightly eff the details.
I mean, I still consume most of my media between 480p/720p/1080p. Social media videos that require little brainpower & are ethereal pop-up in 360p sometimes. So 1080p is already a sweet spot.
I only go 2.7K/4K when I want to see sweat & pores in dramatic media... like catwalks. Ugh.
How about a final Panasonic S5II review and talk about the state of Panasonic's camera line too?
After the first major firmware update, we’ll revisit the S5 II. Keep an eye out though, a few upcoming episodes have been shot on that camera.
-Jordan
@@dpreview Do y'all have a Laowa ultra wide available for testing? The new eIS for motion looks great but always seems geared for longer focal lengths. I would love to see what stabilization looks like for wide. Especially since I hear that feature is being updated by firmware.
Maybe the real rolling shutter was the Jello we ate along the way.
Is there a soft skin function in its menu?
Thanks for the video. I was thinking to replace my A7RIV for the A7RV, for stills (99.9% of the use), but I'll wait for a new model with dramatic enhancements.
good review in 10mins on the Sony A7r V.
Rewatching this. I own this and I’m really a stills only shooter so I’m not worried that the video performance is sub par. So many cameras with sub par stills capability. Have other cameras if I really cared about video. Take care.
“Video focus like Nikon”- does customising lens button to tracking + AF on do the trick.
What I do find confusing though is video mode and photo mode doesn’t allow the same customisation instructions - some focus instructions allowed in one , but not on the other . Probably for good reason but needs getting use to
I hope the A7V will have the same screen flip tilt design and resolution as well as the evf resolution! As well as its 8 stop ibis
I’ve taken over 240,000 images on my A7RIV and only needed to blow the dust off my sensor twice with the rubber bulb blower. I never needed a professional cleaning with it. I don’t change lenses that often using mostly 3 lenses for real estate. However, my A7III needed to be cleaned twice a week! That used to drive me crazy…
Can you do a comparison video of this and the Sony a1
Thanks for this in depth review boys. Sounds like the rolling shutter problem for video is pretty bad but would cranking the shutter speed mitigate if not completely resolve this issue?
unfortunately no the shutter systems don't work that way
That spoon bending shot was one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time... Brilliant thinking there!
where is the final review for X-T5?!?!❤
Video Request. Hi dp review team :) can you please make a video regarding the best mirrorless camera to film wildlife as a priority so stills are not important at all, budget would be though thx
I love Colin Farrell reviews.
These final reviews are proving to be vastly more useful than anything else. Thank you. Not gonna consider it. As an FX3 shooter that rolling shutter is unacceptable to me now.
What subjects are your usual focus (pardon the pun)?
@@bigd7696 ha, usually one of two things. People and Macro. To this day I’m still so pleased with the performance. That said okay some point I want a higher MP camera for photos and a bit of video too.
I'm using a clip-in filter inside my Sonys. Because it's millimeters in front of the sensor, dust doesn't show up in your images. I don't understand why Sony doesn't put the UV/Infrared filter a few millimeters in front of the sensor instead of right on top of it.
Which camera would you get today if you not really needed Full Format. APS-C will work fine for me. Which brand to look at (and model). Ive been using most of the brands on the market, but Im a bit out of update which the current lineups. I will have the camera as a pro amateur (if thats something). Photography is my thing, video for a very secondary use.
The neat thing is I learnt you're from Calgary. (Or at least many of these scenes were shot there.).
Do not compare the noise on dpreview website: they used a lossless compressed raw. The file is about 80MB, when the uncompressed full quality raw file is over 110MB.
You do realise the entire point of lossless compression is that it's full quality, right? That's the entire point, it's lossless. The only reason Sony kept the uncompressed format is because their camera processors aren't fast enough at doing lossless compression to keep up with their faster shooting modes.
8k is a really major selling point for this camera. Seems like it’s not quite the sensation buyers would expect it to me
Whoa. Watching this on Easter today and had to do a double tske bc the upload date says 2mo ago
Has Gordon reviewed this ?
Loved the bit with Chris channeling Uri Geller…..
Can I ask, have you tested the rolling shutter while videoing in APS C mode?
Does it have slow motion 120fps video?
in 1080p
Why the studio video today. There was too much cold outside?
2:08 Is it me or the V has more noise than the IV? Not the first time I’ve read about it
Maybe 1/10 of a stop. Once you add NR, it'll be too small to notice.
I've A6600 right now but like to jump into fullframe. I want to get the RV but I think it is out of my price range. I wonder how is RV as compared to RIV? I just want to take pictures. My video's will be handled by the 6600. I'm really interested in the wildlife photography.
A6600 and A7R IV came out around the same time, so many of the features are simliar. The biggest differences will be the body, viewfinder, resolution (including Pixel Shift), and readout speed issues. You're better off going with a used A9 for the money if you're looking at wildlife.
@@BlueBomberTurbo aha, if I want to do a bit of portrait too. which will be better?
@@slam5 The main reason to move up to FF for portrait work is to get shallower DOF. Going to the A7R IV, you're also getting a lot more resolution. The question is: do you need either of those? Without them, it's very hard to see a difference between those cameras in the end result.
Using APS-C, you're losing around 1 stop of DOF control vs FF, and adding 1.5x to the focal length. So a Sigma 56/1.4 on APS-C is equivalent to 85/2 on FF. A Sony 50/1.2 GM is equivalent to 75/1.6. So as you can see, 1.6 is about as shallow as you'll get on APS-C if you need AF, while you can get 1/2 on FF. With MF, there are 0.95 lenses that are roughly 1.4 on APS-C, and an 0.85 that's equal to 1.3, which is as fast as you're going to get. So it all depends on how far you want to blur out the background and potentially the subject's nose and even eyebrows on a close up headshot.
Question for A7RV owners. I shoot waves in the ocean with a waterhousing. Currently have the A7R3 and im going to upgrade. You think the AF will be good for waves?
What is the advantages of getting Sony A7S III over A7R V for video features?
Is the continuous shooting speed in uncompressed RAW comparable to the a7IV from 2021?
To sports, flying birding, and night. A7R V or R6 Mark II?
Still waiting for Pentax K3 III full review... :(
I intend to keep a zoom lens constantly on, will I still get dust on the sensor.
You can select AF tracking to every custom buttons. I use it to lens focus hold buttons. Works perfectly. Please make you home work before you bashing it to review.
If I had an riva or riv i wouldn’t upgrade. I only did because I have an a6400. I love the camera so far and is a big upgrade.
"Because its 4 more Ks..." Dead! Haha. Great review as I narrow between this and the R5 c.
A7Siv will be the one for pro video people who need perfection. Hopefully feature the same articulating display. My guess it will appear in March 2023. No rumour, but there is the IFA electronics trade show in Berlin then and it would make sense to show it there. I have an A7Siii and the fact Sony have not compromised on the video front is why it is so good.
You really think it will come out this year ?
Hello. Lads. Today I saw some news on Samsung isocel ph3. Looks impressive. But what does it mean.
How did you get rid of the dust spot in post when videoing?
What’s a good sports camera?
I film birds at 20-150ft away. The sweet spot is about halfway. What camera/lens combo would work best for video? Currently using a Nikon P950. The amount of shots I missed from being slow is frustrating. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks
Every new camera is good. Just pick one
I was hoping so much for this and the a7iv, but the slower fps compared to other camera brands bummed me out.
I was holding out on the r5 for both of those to compare for getting to sports and wildlife.
Excellent photo quality, but was hoping for more speed without having to go up to a1 prices.
Perhaps the next gen will improve read out speeds.
I’m still excited for future of photography.
Vested in Sony lenses? How about the Canon R5 for sports & wildlife? Pretty decent AF also for the dollars. Some rolling shutter but...
3:31 that’s just part of the ceiling lol, you can see more of them at the corners of the ceiling panel
I agree. Dust doesn't have a light and dark edge like in that frame.
Is mutishot mode for shooting dogs?
Thanks for info
it's really the best sony camera I have ever owned
Thanks for all you do for our community
regards, rick
Hello, Can the Sony A7 RV take high quality images in sports, where there is action, with a Sony 100 - 400 F 4.5 - 5.6 G lens???
Rolling shutter looks awesome to me
I’m gonna have to look out for that dust issue when I buy the camera lol
This as good as the Leica W3?