Just to get this clear. They gave up butterfly, they returned to improved scissor switch, they gave inverted T arrows, they thickened the body for thermals, the provided actual esc key, they gave one of the best screens in market, they increased base storage to 512gb and they kept the same price as of the 15 inch and they gave EARLY access to reviewers and press ? Is this Apple we’re talking about ?
I don't like the inverted T arrow keys and the smaller key caps, but I love the fact that Apple returned to scissor mechanism and gave us the esc key back. In my opinion would be lovely if Apple could provide us with an even bigger screen sized MacBook Pro.
I looooove Rene's positive outlook BUT apple changed some of the things that Rene sort of defended. Apple LISTENED to the haters instead of their lovers and improved as a result. I was about to buy a Lenovo but it looks like I may just get the mac book pro now.
Nope, there's gotta be something seriously wrong. I reckon an alien invasion with tiny creepy thingies invading HQ and infesting the excutive team. Tim, are you ok? Tim?? 😳
Been holding onto my Late 2013 15" waiting for a worthy upgrade. It really slowed down with the first Catalina update, but has been better (not fully) after the second one. Once this truly starts slowing down, I have no problems switching to this new 16"
My wallet is crying now. I've been waiting for an updated MBP with better keyboard for a long time and finally, it's here. Definitely, my Christmas 2019 gift to myself.
they STILL need remove the touch bar, add sd, usb ports, return the SE size (no big phones), a new 13 with 15 inch screen macbook pro, down the price on airports and fired Tim.
@@JohnSmith-zl8rz why do they need to fire tim? i'd suggest they should hire a executive vice president of QA with enough power to escalate bug-fixing over version releasing. QA needs to be seriously stepped up.
I had been planning for a spec’ed up 13 that is the same memory and storage as this. And this one is bigger and better graphics, better keyboard and so much more. For about $150 more than I would have gotten the 13”. Glad I waited. Now just waiting for sales soon. I’m so excited to get mine and can’t wait!
yes. I want a 13'' MBP with a dedicated escape button and Intels 10th Gen Icelake CPU. Hopefully it won't take too long for apple to refresh the 13'' MBP. Perhaps we might also get a 13,5/14'' inch screen in the current 13'' formfactor.
Apple needs to discontinue the 13 inch macbook pro. It’s an insult to call it a “pro” model. An i5 with Intel Iris Plus graphics and 128 gb ssd? In a pro machine that costs $1,300? Get the fuck out of here.
@@WhiteoutTech If that MacBook actually comes out, I'd feel like I wasted my money on the 13-inch I bought a year ago. Could've waited one more year and got a much better option :/
@@bodyemcal It's the American way!! Besides, metric isn't all of what they thought it would be. In other words, it's 6 one way, and half-a-dozen another. That is to say, it's personal preference. And quite frankly, it irritates the daylights out of me when an American video maker goes out of their way to look up measurement conversions that they themselves would never even use just to make their video sound more "professional". It's just annoying and not helpful at all!
@@workinprogress9613 right its just easier in farenheit for me.. im not trying to be mid game and think about how hot im running just cuz everyone wants to use Celsius lol.
@@bodyemcal I like farenheit better for weather, in general it's a scale from 0-100 with how hot is outside. But celcius for everything else. Especially when dealing with really hot temperatures like CPU temps. 100C is the boiling point of water, 0 is the freezing point of water. 75C is the temperature you don't typically want your CPU to go over, but sometimes it's okay to go over for short times under heavy loads.
Wow! This is an amazing laptop, addressing all the main issues and then some. I was shocked when you said audio was with the internal mics. I immediately put on my headphones to see if there was a difference. Headphones off, listening on the laptop speakers, the audio was completely fine. With headphones there is a distinct difference - but still that's very nice.
Great video and an amazing lap top. Do you think they're going to release new 13" macbook pros anytime soon? 16 is a bit too big for me in term of portability so I dont know if I should buy now or wait for new 13s
I’m so glad I have delayed my purchase decision. Now I can buy the new MBP for the same price and a better keyboard. The sound is amazing ! Thanks for the excellent video Rene.
Never had a problem with the butterfly keyboard on my 13". "Virtual" Esc is fine, I can type on it and so far all the keys are working. I never got used to the arrow keys though; why Apple ever moved aways from the inverted T is beyond me. Glad to see it's back and hopefully will never go away / will be added to all the other MacBooks as well.
watching on a 2016 MacBook Pro with butterfly keys. Ive had this for about a year now with a ghost keyboard cover on it and haven't had a single problem 🤞
This is awesome. Still have a 2014 and waiting for a new MacBook with a usable keyboard again. I recently use the screens app on the iPad to access my macbook on the go, so I really don't take the macbook with me that often if I don't need to, so a larger device would be perfect.
Great first look!!! Looks great. Quick question. Does the new fan system appear to handle heat better? At least well enough so we can get the 8 core performance we paid for?
I’ve had my 2017 MacBook Pro since release, never had a keyboard issue. They only problem I encountered was that the fan would make a ticking noise, and Apple replaced it.
i'd love to know more about the bass + speakers on that laptop. thanks for mentioning the 720p facetime camera, as it is important that they did not update it. would be great if they finally did (!)
Now please please PLEASE, Apple, give me (most of) this on a 14-inch MB Pro and I'll bombard you with money...! Okay, even the same ol' size of 13.3-inch will do...! My trusty 2014 machine is begging to be retired, but I will cling to this keyboard for life until then.............
The mic is surprisingly good for what it is. However, its still leagues away from a dedicated mic. Couldn't help but feel like I was in a small elevator room while listening to the audio for this video.
Awesome video! I'm super curious about the size - it seems taller without being longer than the 15in. Is that the case? And how annoying is the asymmetry of the top bezel? Is it less annoying than the current top bezel? Thank you!!!!!
It’s almost the same size. Just a millimeter thick her. And 1/ third of a pound heavier. The bezels don’t really bother me. The sharp corners are less pleasing them the rounded ones on the iPad Pro though. But I think that makes better sense on a Mac.
I went to my local Best Buy, and they had a 16 inch MacBook Pro. I am in awe of this powerful laptop. I love that the escape and the touch ID keys are separate from the touch bar, and the keys themselves are great. The speakers are awesome, everything else except that the camera is only 720 instead of 1080 p, and no Face ID, that would be really nice. It didn't have the 10th Generation processor so it is not WiFi 6, but it did have Bluetooth 5.0. You can max up the processor, the ram, the video (adding 4 more GB of video ram for a total of 8) and up to 8 TB of SSD. And much better cooling. I also love that the price of the base didn't go up as much as I expected or rumored to be ($3,000, it was lower). I also found a nice docking station for the MacBooks which has extra ports, like some Type A, Type C, HDMI, SD Slots, network port, and a display port. This Docking station was $109.99 not to bad a price. Also, want to get a Bluetooth numeric keypad and an LG Blue-ray reader/writer so I can watch or make my own blue-ray videos. I would also get that software so that I can put Windows on it for my Office 365 which includes Access and Publisher). This MacBook has more power than the Windows PC's. I rarely even seen one that has a 1TB SSD, let alone 2, 4 or 8 TB SSD. More Ram 32 GB or 64 GB options that I don't see often. They really catered to the Creators on this MacBook. Bigger screen and still not too big to carry around, and not too heavy either. I am pretty pleased with this MacBook Pro. Now the Windows PC Makers will have some major competition.
The most important for me, and you touched on some of it, but where do you see the existing, just refreshed 15" MacBook Pro sit in this? I am currently typing on a 15" quad-core i7, it is a 2-year young laptop that just got the upper replaced. With the upcoming "discountable" days of frivolity do you see Apple pushing the 2019 15-inch models out of their stock asap?
It’s amazing how well the built in mics work. I recognized the sound because I just watched MKBHDs video and he demoed it. I love that Apple has been making some good decisions this year. I hope it becomes a trend. Hey Rene, what app do you use to monitor the temps of all the sensors and drives? I loved that huge list you showed from your status bar 😲
Great video and review Rene! I'm really waiting for your review, Vector Style, on the new LEGO Star Wars Imperial Star Destryer I saw you boiling in the background...!
Sadly, I could tell from the beginning that you were using the built-in mic. It has weird hollow sound I noticed first on MKBHD's video (which is how I immediately recognized the sound on this video)
It's the only logical next step for them if they were planning a full Pro line refresh. Better differentiation from the Air line too. That's what they did with iPad Pro vs Air vs basic iPad recently.
I've got some left over gift cards and a 15" to trade in. Thinking of getting the 2.4 mHz, 64 GB, 8 GB and 1 TB... I have so many external hard drives lying around. I might as well save the $$$ where I can without sacrificing capability as this will be my laptop for a long time to come unless if fails.
What I want to know is that 1. Does the keyboard still as loud as the butterfly crap? 2. How is the internal of the laptop, is it passively cooled like the current MBA or not? 3. Does it thermal throttle? I’m not coming back from windows till then
I can answer some of these 1) no, it’s noticeably quieter 2)Compared to the MBA like you said it should be much more passively cooled 3) I don’t own one so i can’t answer that one.
Rene, HI! Thanks for all of your very informative content. I listened both to your voice and Jonathan’s voice in his video with Phil Schiller. On both occasions there is a very low pitch non-stop rumbling in the background.
René: speed vs. depth of reporting = stellar. Thank you so much! I am curious to ask you… from your pristine video, I believe I am detecting some light leaking from individual keys on the keyboard. I ordered a 16" MacBook Pro, but that would be a dealbreaker for me. Can you please confirm whether this is happening, or it's a mere artifact in the videography…
The key travel is 1mm vs 0.7mm on the butterfly keyboard. If you’ve ever used a magic keyboard which comes with all the iMacs, it will likely be very similar to that, just with more stable keys.
You recorded your voice with the built in mics. What I can hear is that there is a very low rumble noise when listening with (studio) headphones. But for the rest, it’s very impressive regarding sound quality. It’s the dream MacBook Pro for me. Maybe I will replace my current MacBook Pro with this one. I mean, 8TB storage and 64GB RAM!!! Question: how well does it perform regarding heat issues and throttling?
Rene Hi! Almost all sound good. But what about anti-glare coatings? It is a very old MB problem. Can you do some tests? Take it for walk or ride on a bike with it in a backpack, this can clarify about the new screen. Like please!
I’m really disappointed they got rid of the butterfly keyboard. First they get rid of 3D Touch and now this? I loved that keyboard and it seems that they solved all the issues with their latest gen version. I’ll need to try out this new one, I’m hoping it has a similar feel to the butterfly keyboard
With all the new upgrades and specs for this, I want to know which specs is worth the bump up. I’m a videographer (heavy use of After Effects, Da Vinci, and Premiere Pro), photographer (Photoshop, Lightroom) and graphic designer (Illustrator). Want to know if it’s wise to bump up some specs or just keep it as is?
built-in mic sounded good and could easily see it being good enough while traveling but for quality I can't see anyone choosing the built-in over a stand-alone mic still. Was very noticeable when the audio switched during this video.
Just to be clear, there’s no more keyboard issues right? And also how’s the sustained performance and are there any heating issues (particularly for the base model).
I’d give it a 9.2/10. I’m sure my opinion doesn’t matter, but the iMac is still a better deal for 4K video editing for now at least. Edit: Ok, maybe a 9.5/10. Apple replacing the 15” with this at the same price is bananas!
Alex Diaz I didn’t even think about that. A 4K or even a 5k screen using their 2014 iMac-esque technology would have been killer! Apple is known for using 2nd rate GPUs. Their operation system smoothness makes up for it imo. A RTX-like GPU would have made me save my coins instead of being stuck on a iMac with a solid 4gb GPU and a i7.
Rene, the audio was clean but it sounded like you were recording the video sitting outside, or as someone else commented, recording in a car. It lacks the quality that you would get from using a dedicated microphone like you use for podcasting or recording. If you were using the new Mac to record in a dedicated sound proof room, that ever so slight echo would probably go away and would probably sound a little more rich than it does now. It could also be I'm nit picking too.
I have several 85W power supplies for a 2017 15" MacBook Pro...can these be used with the 2019 16" MacBook Pro even if the charging rate is reduced? Can any harm come from a lower-powered charge block?
I've been using the same magic keyboard 2 with the magic trackpad 2 (lol, I think I have that right...the ones with the internal, rechargeable batteries inside) that came with my late 2015 27" 5K iMac, and they are STELLAR. They are still pristine and function like new. Even the internal batteries are still working very well. I have been holding out for a redesign of the 27" iMac before buying a new computer (since this one, which is a top spec'd model, including pure flash storage, still works like a stallion), but maybe what I really needed all along was a redesigned MacBook! If the thermals on the machine are good enough, i can see myself buying the 16" with an external display for my desk. I think waiting until mid 2020 though is the way to go at this point. But this thing looks Promising; yes with a capital P!
The noise cancelling does a great job. You can really hear the difference compared to your normal mic .. I was just going go complement you on doing some room treatment ... but now I know that it was the new mics that did the job for you ;) . P.S. Please do some room treatment where you do your podcast recording! The little bare-walled office sound makes us crazy! Some inexpensive broadway panels (purchased or home made) go a loooooong way.
I do wish they'd put the SD slot back in... I don't mind moving to USB-C only, but being able to load media from SD (even microSD would be okay) without an external reader would be nice.
Have you checked the little error in minute 4:15? I had that issue in my MacBook Pro 15 inches 2018 using FCX...what do you think is the reason for that failure?
I suspected this audio was recorded using the new MBP early on in the video. It has the same low frequency rumble as that Phil Schiller sit-down interview where they did the same thing. It would be great if Apple could (optionally) automatically recognize that and filter it out, but anyone doing this kind of recording would be wise to run the audio through a high-pass filter before publishing.
I need some buying advice! Some help would be greatly appreciated! So, my 2015 13” mbp’s display broke just a few days ago, which is really unfortunate because I was waiting for Apple to drop the inevitable 14” mbp! My requirements are 16gb of ram and 512GB of storage. Should I get the current 13” model with upgrades for ~2500€ or shell out an extra 200€ for the new 16” baseline, which has a bigger display, a better battery and a much better processor + thermal performance. I really enjoy the portability of the 13”, so I am a bit apprehensive to having to lug around a giant slab of metal. Or is the 16” not that impractical in everyday life? What would you have me do? Get the old 13” model or the much better but clunkier 15” one? Because I really can’t tough out with just an ipad until summer or whenever Apple sees it fit to grace us with the 14” mbp!
I would love to see a comparison to the Dell XPS 15 with similar specs. Want to see it actually use side car with the iPad. Any integration with the iPhone pro? Render times for 4K video for sure BUT this time while also working on something else say photoshop raw photo. See how long it takes to render with the computer doing another task like with 15 tabs open on chrome Thank you. Great initial review by the way. Always wanted a Mac laptop, so maybe this is it if it can beat the Dell XPS15
Mic is better than most, but clearly falls short of your standard mic. I noticed the difference immediately and thought something was wrong with my speaker.
Okay well listening on the built in phone speakers, I didn’t notice a difference between the built-in mics and your regular one! After popping in some AirPods though, I was able to tell. That says a lot about Apple’s mics
Just to get this clear.
They gave up butterfly, they returned to improved scissor switch, they gave inverted T arrows, they thickened the body for thermals, the provided actual esc key, they gave one of the best screens in market, they increased base storage to 512gb and they kept the same price as of the 15 inch and they gave EARLY access to reviewers and press ?
Is this Apple we’re talking about ?
I don't like the inverted T arrow keys and the smaller key caps, but I love the fact that Apple returned to scissor mechanism and gave us the esc key back. In my opinion would be lovely if Apple could provide us with an even bigger screen sized MacBook Pro.
They are losing market share in smartphone to. Huawei so they are trying everything to make up for the loss
I looooove Rene's positive outlook BUT apple changed some of the things that Rene sort of defended. Apple LISTENED to the haters instead of their lovers and improved as a result. I was about to buy a Lenovo but it looks like I may just get the mac book pro now.
and they charge 6k, so yes, it's apple
Nope, there's gotta be something seriously wrong. I reckon an alien invasion with tiny creepy thingies invading HQ and infesting the excutive team. Tim, are you ok? Tim?? 😳
"I recorded all this with the mics"
okay, they're damn good for built in
I know, right? This puts any other laptop to shame! It’s pretty crazy...
Still sounded like a laptop to me. But who cares. THANK HEAVENS THIS MACHINE EXISTS!
Didn’t notice the difference. Gonna go back and listen to another video. Not using audio file headphones but it’s also RUclips compressed.
@@codered47819 how does it put them to shame?!?!
@@alanmay7929 I mean microphone wise. It's kinda hard to find any laptop which has decent build in microphones.
You had me at “inverted T.”
Been holding onto my Late 2013 15" waiting for a worthy upgrade. It really slowed down with the first Catalina update, but has been better (not fully) after the second one. Once this truly starts slowing down, I have no problems switching to this new 16"
My wallet is crying now. I've been waiting for an updated MBP with better keyboard for a long time and finally, it's here. Definitely, my Christmas 2019 gift to myself.
xBankaiZ buy for me plz
Can you buy me one too while you're at it? lol
Same. I'm glad I held out till now.
Anderson Silva, you absolutely SUCK Need any help there bud?
what do you use it for?
iOS 13, MacBook Pro 13” 2019, iPhone 11 and MacBook Pro 16” show a clear change in Apple strategies. They’re finally listening!
don't forget the airpods pro which put the standard airpods to shame
they STILL need remove the touch bar, add sd, usb ports, return the SE size (no big phones), a new 13 with 15 inch screen macbook pro, down the price on airports and fired Tim.
@@JohnSmith-zl8rz why do they need to fire tim? i'd suggest they should hire a executive vice president of QA with enough power to escalate bug-fixing over version releasing. QA needs to be seriously stepped up.
@@LacklusterOfficial Apple should hire Elon Musk to make the computers that we people want.
@@JohnSmith-zl8rz - Elon musk has bigger things to do than make phones
Rene: *Shows Star Wars*
Disney: I own this man now
WiNDOGE MASTER it’s sponsored so he won’t loose much money
Hooray! The base model is good enough to recommend! That’s the first time in a while for a MacBook.
I had been planning for a spec’ed up 13 that is the same memory and storage as this. And this one is bigger and better graphics, better keyboard and so much more. For about $150 more than I would have gotten the 13”. Glad I waited. Now just waiting for sales soon. I’m so excited to get mine and can’t wait!
Macbook has always been a fantastic device to recommend
Man this looks good! It’s too big for my needs, but I’ll upgrade when they revise the 13”
yes. I want a 13'' MBP with a dedicated escape button and Intels 10th Gen Icelake CPU. Hopefully it won't take too long for apple to refresh the 13'' MBP. Perhaps we might also get a 13,5/14'' inch screen in the current 13'' formfactor.
@@WhiteoutTech Yes, exactly this!
M R im thinking next spring. It’d make a awesome birthday gift for myself. My 2011 MBP is ready to be replaced.
Apple needs to discontinue the 13 inch macbook pro. It’s an insult to call it a “pro” model. An i5 with Intel Iris Plus graphics and 128 gb ssd? In a pro machine that costs $1,300? Get the fuck out of here.
@@WhiteoutTech If that MacBook actually comes out, I'd feel like I wasted my money on the 13-inch I bought a year ago. Could've waited one more year and got a much better option :/
The $2400 for 8TB of storage is actually in-line with real SSD prices. The 970 pro for example is $300/TB
You’re a monster, looking at CPU temps in Fahrenheit is a sin
I do that on my pc when im gaming.. celcius makes me think and i dont like that lol
That's what American schools have taught. Instead Celsius. Just like miles instead of kilometers
@@bodyemcal It's the American way!! Besides, metric isn't all of what they thought it would be. In other words, it's 6 one way, and half-a-dozen another. That is to say, it's personal preference. And quite frankly, it irritates the daylights out of me when an American video maker goes out of their way to look up measurement conversions that they themselves would never even use just to make their video sound more "professional". It's just annoying and not helpful at all!
@@workinprogress9613 right its just easier in farenheit for me.. im not trying to be mid game and think about how hot im running just cuz everyone wants to use Celsius lol.
@@bodyemcal I like farenheit better for weather, in general it's a scale from 0-100 with how hot is outside. But celcius for everything else. Especially when dealing with really hot temperatures like CPU temps. 100C is the boiling point of water, 0 is the freezing point of water. 75C is the temperature you don't typically want your CPU to go over, but sometimes it's okay to go over for short times under heavy loads.
Wow! This is an amazing laptop, addressing all the main issues and then some. I was shocked when you said audio was with the internal mics. I immediately put on my headphones to see if there was a difference. Headphones off, listening on the laptop speakers, the audio was completely fine. With headphones there is a distinct difference - but still that's very nice.
Great video and an amazing lap top. Do you think they're going to release new 13" macbook pros anytime soon? 16 is a bit too big for me in term of portability so I dont know if I should buy now or wait for new 13s
Unfamiliar with the tea-drinking pinkie typing style at 4:00
I’m so glad I have delayed my purchase decision. Now I can buy the new MBP for the same price and a better keyboard.
The sound is amazing ! Thanks for the excellent video Rene.
Never had a problem with the butterfly keyboard on my 13". "Virtual" Esc is fine, I can type on it and so far all the keys are working. I never got used to the arrow keys though; why Apple ever moved aways from the inverted T is beyond me. Glad to see it's back and hopefully will never go away / will be added to all the other MacBooks as well.
watching on a 2016 MacBook Pro with butterfly keys. Ive had this for about a year now with a ghost keyboard cover on it and haven't had a single problem 🤞
This is awesome. Still have a 2014 and waiting for a new MacBook with a usable keyboard again. I recently use the screens app on the iPad to access my macbook on the go, so I really don't take the macbook with me that often if I don't need to, so a larger device would be perfect.
Great first look!!! Looks great.
Quick question. Does the new fan system appear to handle heat better? At least well enough so we can get the 8 core performance we paid for?
Finally I can upgrade, if I knew it was coming so soon I would have started saving sooner.
RadicalxEdward they do that so people who bought a MacBook Pro three months ago are screwed.
I’ve had my 2017 MacBook Pro since release, never had a keyboard issue. They only problem I encountered was that the fan would make a ticking noise, and Apple replaced it.
i'd love to know more about the bass + speakers on that laptop. thanks for mentioning the 720p facetime camera, as it is important that they did not update it. would be great if they finally did (!)
4:05 screen shaking caused by typing? Tell me that's not the case!
Sanjoy Sinha WOW
Idk why it looks like that in the video. Definitely doesn’t happen with mine.
Nah. I think that’s just the camera struggling to auto-focus😂
Something's glitchy in this video around 2:00
Now please please PLEASE, Apple, give me (most of) this on a 14-inch MB Pro and I'll bombard you with money...! Okay, even the same ol' size of 13.3-inch will do...! My trusty 2014 machine is begging to be retired, but I will cling to this keyboard for life until then.............
The mic is surprisingly good for what it is. However, its still leagues away from a dedicated mic. Couldn't help but feel like I was in a small elevator room while listening to the audio for this video.
Awesome video! I'm super curious about the size - it seems taller without being longer than the 15in. Is that the case? And how annoying is the asymmetry of the top bezel? Is it less annoying than the current top bezel? Thank you!!!!!
It’s almost the same size. Just a millimeter thick her. And 1/ third of a pound heavier. The bezels don’t really bother me. The sharp corners are less pleasing them the rounded ones on the iPad Pro though. But I think that makes better sense on a Mac.
I went to my local Best Buy, and they had a 16 inch MacBook Pro. I am in awe of this powerful laptop. I love that the escape and the touch ID keys are separate from the touch bar, and the keys themselves are great. The speakers are awesome, everything else except that the camera is only 720 instead of 1080 p, and no Face ID, that would be really nice. It didn't have the 10th Generation processor so it is not WiFi 6, but it did have Bluetooth 5.0. You can max up the processor, the ram, the video (adding 4 more GB of video ram for a total of 8) and up to 8 TB of SSD. And much better cooling. I also love that the price of the base didn't go up as much as I expected or rumored to be ($3,000, it was lower).
I also found a nice docking station for the MacBooks which has extra ports, like some Type A, Type C, HDMI, SD Slots, network port, and a display port. This Docking station was $109.99 not to bad a price. Also, want to get a Bluetooth numeric keypad and an LG Blue-ray reader/writer so I can watch or make my own blue-ray videos. I would also get that software so that I can put Windows on it for my Office 365 which includes Access and Publisher).
This MacBook has more power than the Windows PC's. I rarely even seen one that has a 1TB SSD, let alone 2, 4 or 8 TB SSD. More Ram 32 GB or 64 GB options that I don't see often. They really catered to the Creators on this MacBook. Bigger screen and still not too big to carry around, and not too heavy either. I am pretty pleased with this MacBook Pro.
Now the Windows PC Makers will have some major competition.
The most important for me, and you touched on some of it, but where do you see the existing, just refreshed 15" MacBook Pro sit in this? I am currently typing on a 15" quad-core i7, it is a 2-year young laptop that just got the upper replaced. With the upcoming "discountable" days of frivolity do you see Apple pushing the 2019 15-inch models out of their stock asap?
It’s amazing how well the built in mics work. I recognized the sound because I just watched MKBHDs video and he demoed it. I love that Apple has been making some good decisions this year. I hope it becomes a trend. Hey Rene, what app do you use to monitor the temps of all the sensors and drives? I loved that huge list you showed from your status bar 😲
Looks like iStat Menus
@@RusselGosu thanks. I agree, it does look like it. Pretty cool app.
Those are some good mics because I couldn’t tell the difference til you pointed it out.
I wonder if the Pro 5500M is as good as the Pro Vega 16/20? If yes it is significant cheaper?
What? No event to announce it? Just when we thought it wasn't coming this year, WHAM
They didn't want to make an event telling people they were wrong and went back to the old keys and putting the esc button back.
Seems like they have a new marketing strategy, making way more noise by just letting the RUclipsrs do their job...
"I have been using this for weeks"
Great video and review Rene! I'm really waiting for your review, Vector Style, on the new LEGO Star Wars Imperial Star Destryer I saw you boiling in the background...!
Sound is great, especially for me. Slightly higher in the register, which is where I lack, so I love it. Can't believe they're built in.
Merry Christmas, Rene!
Sadly, I could tell from the beginning that you were using the built-in mic. It has weird hollow sound I noticed first on MKBHD's video (which is how I immediately recognized the sound on this video)
04:00 Seems like the screen shakes a lot from the impacts of typing fingers. Floppy hinge?
Andrew Cox the hinge does move a little if you lift up the laptop and move . But it is barely noticeable when typing.
can't wait for the 13/14 inch version
Is it possible that they will do a 14” Macbook Pro???
Yeah I also have this question in mind and some ppl saying yes it will come soon
It's the only logical next step for them if they were planning a full Pro line refresh. Better differentiation from the Air line too. That's what they did with iPad Pro vs Air vs basic iPad recently.
Great video as usual. Can’t believe this was recorded with just the MacBook Pro mike.
Mic 🎙 not mike 😂
Anderson Silva, you absolutely SUCK mike ock
I've got some left over gift cards and a 15" to trade in. Thinking of getting the 2.4 mHz, 64 GB, 8 GB and 1 TB... I have so many external hard drives lying around. I might as well save the $$$ where I can without sacrificing capability as this will be my laptop for a long time to come unless if fails.
What I want to know is that
1. Does the keyboard still as loud as the butterfly crap?
2. How is the internal of the laptop, is it passively cooled like the current MBA or not?
3. Does it thermal throttle?
I’m not coming back from windows till then
I can answer some of these 1) no, it’s noticeably quieter 2)Compared to the MBA like you said it should be much more passively cooled 3) I don’t own one so i can’t answer that one.
just got mine yesterday, i love it so much!! such a high quality product!!
I want to know... Apple says $580 for my mid 2014 15" MBP. Is the Apple trade-in program worth it on buying a new 16" MBP?
Rene, HI!
Thanks for all of your very informative content.
I listened both to your voice and Jonathan’s voice in his video with Phil Schiller. On both occasions there is a very low pitch non-stop rumbling in the background.
René: speed vs. depth of reporting = stellar. Thank you so much!
I am curious to ask you… from your pristine video, I believe I am detecting some light leaking from individual keys on the keyboard.
I ordered a 16" MacBook Pro, but that would be a dealbreaker for me. Can you please confirm whether this is happening, or it's a mere artifact in the videography…
Mics sound great
I would like to know if the key press is as “deep” as the 15 inch but less noisy? The noisy keyboard is the only thing I hate about my 15 inch.
It's a different keyboard from their mechanical keyboards. Completely different from past macs
The key travel is 1mm vs 0.7mm on the butterfly keyboard. If you’ve ever used a magic keyboard which comes with all the iMacs, it will likely be very similar to that, just with more stable keys.
@@thebuddercweeper That travel distance means NOTHING compared to butterfly keyboard reliability.
White Fox I figure it would be I just hope the travel is good.
Apple Pi I have used those types. Until last year I’ve only owned iMacs, so getting used to a laptop has been fun.
Can we appreciate the synchronized movement at 9:20
You recorded your voice with the built in mics. What I can hear is that there is a very low rumble noise when listening with (studio) headphones. But for the rest, it’s very impressive regarding sound quality. It’s the dream MacBook Pro for me. Maybe I will replace my current MacBook Pro with this one. I mean, 8TB storage and 64GB RAM!!! Question: how well does it perform regarding heat issues and throttling?
I was amazed that the sound was recorded with the new MacBook mic. Well done!
Rene Hi! Almost all sound good. But what about anti-glare coatings? It is a very old MB problem. Can you do some tests? Take it for walk or ride on a bike with it in a backpack, this can clarify about the new screen.
Like please!
YU keep your pinky up like that when typin
I’m really disappointed they got rid of the butterfly keyboard. First they get rid of 3D Touch and now this? I loved that keyboard and it seems that they solved all the issues with their latest gen version. I’ll need to try out this new one, I’m hoping it has a similar feel to the butterfly keyboard
With all the new upgrades and specs for this, I want to know which specs is worth the bump up. I’m a videographer (heavy use of After Effects, Da Vinci, and Premiere Pro), photographer (Photoshop, Lightroom) and graphic designer (Illustrator).
Want to know if it’s wise to bump up some specs or just keep it as is?
built-in mic sounded good and could easily see it being good enough while traveling but for quality I can't see anyone choosing the built-in over a stand-alone mic still. Was very noticeable when the audio switched during this video.
it is good to have a decent enough mic just in case there's a real need to use it. i hope they have also improved the facetime camera.
Just to be clear, there’s no more keyboard issues right? And also how’s the sustained performance and are there any heating issues (particularly for the base model).
Is that a LEGO UCS Imperial Star Destroyer in the background?
I’d give it a 9.2/10. I’m sure my opinion doesn’t matter, but the iMac is still a better deal for 4K video editing for now at least.
Edit: Ok, maybe a 9.5/10. Apple replacing the 15” with this at the same price is bananas!
Yeah! All we need now is a 4k OLED display, and perhaps a better gpu. Maybe a RTX?
Alex Diaz I didn’t even think about that. A 4K or even a 5k screen using their 2014 iMac-esque technology would have been killer! Apple is known for using 2nd rate GPUs. Their operation system smoothness makes up for it imo. A RTX-like GPU would have made me save my coins instead of being stuck on a iMac with a solid 4gb GPU and a i7.
Looking forward to thermal results while pushing it to it’s limits
I just want to know how you controlled your iPhone without touching it for the last part of this video??
Rene, the audio was clean but it sounded like you were recording the video sitting outside, or as someone else commented, recording in a car. It lacks the quality that you would get from using a dedicated microphone like you use for podcasting or recording. If you were using the new Mac to record in a dedicated sound proof room, that ever so slight echo would probably go away and would probably sound a little more rich than it does now. It could also be I'm nit picking too.
I like how my 15" MBP late 2013 looks more modern again since the release of the 16".
Keep up the great work on your videos Rene! You and John Rettinger are among my favorite RUclips tech reviewers!
What’s the program that shows all the core usage and what not that he had on his Mac?
Istat menus
I have several 85W power supplies for a 2017 15" MacBook Pro...can these be used with the 2019 16" MacBook Pro even if the charging rate is reduced? Can any harm come from a lower-powered charge block?
I really dislike the backlight bleed-thru on this redesigned keyboard, but I’ve never had an issue with the 1st gen butterfly keyboard in my 2016 MBP
I still have possibility to return my new 15” until 20 of november...so, tomorrow morning, first thing is to go straight away to Apple store. Wooow
I've been using the same magic keyboard 2 with the magic trackpad 2 (lol, I think I have that right...the ones with the internal, rechargeable batteries inside) that came with my late 2015 27" 5K iMac, and they are STELLAR. They are still pristine and function like new. Even the internal batteries are still working very well. I have been holding out for a redesign of the 27" iMac before buying a new computer (since this one, which is a top spec'd model, including pure flash storage, still works like a stallion), but maybe what I really needed all along was a redesigned MacBook! If the thermals on the machine are good enough, i can see myself buying the 16" with an external display for my desk. I think waiting until mid 2020 though is the way to go at this point. But this thing looks Promising; yes with a capital P!
Wait... What? You that's the sound of the microphone? Please Apple make a professional usb 3 mic...
The noise cancelling does a great job. You can really hear the difference compared to your normal mic .. I was just going go complement you on doing some room treatment ... but now I know that it was the new mics that did the job for you ;) . P.S. Please do some room treatment where you do your podcast recording! The little bare-walled office sound makes us crazy! Some inexpensive broadway panels (purchased or home made) go a loooooong way.
Recorded with the built-in MIC......
Sounds like it was recorded in a parked car
Man, I just bought a 2018 MBP secondhand. :(
I’m so happy I’m ordering this i’m probably going to CTO and do 32 gb the normal 8 core and the 8gb gpu.
Could the new 16” MacBook pro be the new default MacBook?
I do wish they'd put the SD slot back in... I don't mind moving to USB-C only, but being able to load media from SD (even microSD would be okay) without an external reader would be nice.
Have you checked the little error in minute 4:15? I had that issue in my MacBook Pro 15 inches 2018 using FCX...what do you think is the reason for that failure?
I suspected this audio was recorded using the new MBP early on in the video. It has the same low frequency rumble as that Phil Schiller sit-down interview where they did the same thing. It would be great if Apple could (optionally) automatically recognize that and filter it out, but anyone doing this kind of recording would be wise to run the audio through a high-pass filter before publishing.
Oh well. I got the 2016 pro. haven’t really had problems. But not a big fan of the scissor keyboard. I’m wait another couple years then buy the 2019.
14'' inch screen in the current 13'' form factor....NOW.
I wonder can you running games on MacBook Pro 16 inch. I am just curious if it is good or bad.
So if the Macbook is rocking, you don't have to worry about any Knocking! 😂
I need some buying advice! Some help would be greatly appreciated!
So, my 2015 13” mbp’s display broke just a few days ago, which is really unfortunate because I was waiting for Apple to drop the inevitable 14” mbp!
My requirements are 16gb of ram and 512GB of storage.
Should I get the current 13” model with upgrades for ~2500€ or shell out an extra 200€ for the new 16” baseline, which has a bigger display, a better battery and a much better processor + thermal performance.
I really enjoy the portability of the 13”, so I am a bit apprehensive to having to lug around a giant slab of metal.
Or is the 16” not that impractical in everyday life?
What would you have me do? Get the old 13” model or the much better but clunkier 15” one?
Because I really can’t tough out with just an ipad until summer or whenever Apple sees it fit to grace us with the 14” mbp!
Is it worth it to upgrade from 2018 Macbook Pro 15" to 2019 16"?
wow! the mic is ALMOST as good as a dedicated mic. And boy the sound is fabulous! I need to get one.
I can hear it in your tone that you and I are equally excited ！！！
I want to know if its possible to connect an apple cinema display to a new macbook pro?
Thank you
Great review sir and luv your visuals!! Def time to trade up for my MacPro 2016 (the keyboard alone)! FINALLY APPLE, Steve is at last a bit proud
Scissor switch that bell gizmo, he gleefully implored.
I would love to see a comparison to the Dell XPS 15 with similar specs.
Want to see it actually use side car with the iPad. Any integration with the iPhone pro?
Render times for 4K video for sure BUT this time while also working on something else say photoshop raw photo. See how long it takes to render with the computer doing another task like with 15 tabs open on chrome
Thank you. Great initial review by the way. Always wanted a Mac laptop, so maybe this is it if it can beat the Dell XPS15
What are you using to show CPU, memory, and SSD on your menu bar?
IStat Menu
Mic is better than most, but clearly falls short of your standard mic. I noticed the difference immediately and thought something was wrong with my speaker.
What the hell?! How are the mics that good on a laptop??
The mic array is not better than a standard usb mic, but it is pretty close.
How’s the gaming on it? Both native and with a partitioned BootCamp.
casually placed half-built Lego UCS SSD on the background. Now you're just showing off. ;-)
Okay well listening on the built in phone speakers, I didn’t notice a difference between the built-in mics and your regular one! After popping in some AirPods though, I was able to tell. That says a lot about Apple’s mics
Love the review Rene. Awesome job as usual. Your vid was the first way I found out Apple had put the 16" out for purchase