I love the MacBook Pro's butterfly keyboard. 2 full years now and no issues at all here. Apple is making a big mistake by going back to the old style keys.
Apple 2019: "You want battery ? more specs ? better camera ? old keyboard ? Desktop browser for a tablet ? Here take them all - 'cause I'm running business with apple card now "
Prabhjot Singh because people only care about design .. if this was showed on stage would be called boring , so .. they will wait until they refresh it IPad Pro style
João Costa did you listen to what dieter said about thermals? I think that’s not styling. Plus, what styling upgrade is there on this thing? It looks the same as last year’s
Thank you, Apple, for finally listening. I went from a 2018 model back to a 2015 model because I could not live with the keyboard. And I did not even have a faulty one - it was just a matter of the ergonomics. I could not feel my way around it, it felt terrible to type on, could never find the esc key and git the touch id by accident all of the time. The external magic keyboards are great in my opinion, so I'm having my hopes up for this.
Zaki Wasik how can you get confused with Touch ID and esc button. There are on different sides. And personally I love the butterfly keyboard. Only scissor keyboard I love are the ones that Lenovo uses.
Rameez Raza Riaz I think they mean that they accidentally hit the TouchID button by accident through normal use, not that they hit the TouchID thinking it’s the ESC key.
Antenox hitting the Touch ID button doesn’t do anything when the computer is on? Also have you tried clicking the Touch ID key? It’s hella firm to the touch, you can’t just “accidentally” hit it
@@booooooooooooooooooooooo I was talking about hitting the Touch ID button by accident. I had multiple users on the machine and just touching the button would send you to the fast user switching login screen. 🤦♂️Happened almost every time I was trying to use the backspace key.
@@UwUKris Great that you are having a good experience. I did care. So much that I sold the machine and bought an old version. I'm a software engineer and I type all day. But if you don't care, feel free to not upgrade.
@@mplovecraft If they'd had a keynote for this, the would have HAD to have talked about the keyboard. And they really don't want to talk about the keyboard.
Still hanging on to my Late 2013 15" retina. Thing has been a champ. One of the last good ones. But once this starts to slow down, I'm not scared of switching after this new 16" update
Please run an extensive test on the Touch Bar. In my opinion, if ANY of the functions don’t perform ONCE it is a failure and should not be on the machine. As a musician I need to have the play/pause button displayed always so I set the Touch Bar to show the original keys. I’ve done this on every MPB they’ve released with the TB and with normal use it always fails to work 5/10% of the time. Not to mention other functions getting stuck or not working sometimes either
The fully-loaded version with the 8TB option is $6,099. That's about the same as the 4TB option a couple of years ago. Nice progress. Too bad our storage needs, with 46 megapixel photos and 4K video, have increased just as much if not more. Still, I'm glad it's available so I can have about one year's worth of online storage for my photos and videos.
I have zero issue with the keyboard. I think it was all a bit blown out of proportion. Have purchased over 80 for my business over the past 4 years, zero problems.
Apple we don't care that you screwed up with the last few years' macbook pro. Thank you for finally not being ruled by pride and giving us what we want with keyboard/battery life/thermals. I want an sd card slot though. Yours truly, still 2015 macbook pro user.
Often times the greatest progress is to aknowledge when something "new" is not working better than the "old", and scrapping it. Always best to design "new" from something old that works than something that doesn't. Was great that Apple tried to make a butterfly keyboard! But they held onto the concept waaaaaaaay to long. That didn't do them or the consumers any favors. Was great for Microsoft competition, though!
Next Level Code it would be great if they make it as a replacement for the current keyboards. But the cost of implementing it in existing models will be even higher
Apple stated the individual keys are repairable, which is a huge advantage versus having to replace the entire chassis. Would love to see that tested out, i.e. pop a key off and replace it without any damage.
What I like of the 2019 model is that the entry model has standard 16GB RAM and a standard 512GB SSD disk. That saves money! I was looking to an Windows machine as replacement, but it is likely that I change my mind. Lots of developers are switching right now from a Mac to a Windows laptop .... just because Apple is asking to much money.
@@Racko. Yeah I'm aware my money alone doesn't matter much, but I'm representative of a huge portion of Mac lovers who almost lost patience. These past few years have stained the Mac's reputation. Mac use to be the computer you could effortlessly recommend before 2016, and it simply wasn't the case after.
@@lalitsoni8854 Lol I'm not a Serious pro user myself, but I do use a ton of ram for multitasking and VMs. Also I enjoy a larger screen like a lot of people. But more importantly I hated the butterfly keyboard with a passion.
@@stephenfew3948 They can still be recommended, I don't see a problem, sure they had their issues but that doesn't mean anything, it's share is still growing
I have an early 2013 MacBook Pro, the first one with retina display and it is still a solid hardware. The only reason I want to change it because it’s been 6 years that I bought it. Honestly I never owned any hardware this long that to be still in such a good decent working order and performant for its age. I was waiting for something worthy to replace with and I think this is the model. I will buy it!
I know nothing about laptops and computers but they should but the touch bar as more of a touch pad down the side of the keyboard (where you would rest your hands) with more options and overall fine control
How long can it sustain a clock speed? Fps gains in gpu, blender bench marks would be great! ( 3d rendering ) Fusion 360 work flow! Video export time Key board reliability Battery drain test plz Ohh and last disk read / write speeds
Im in college and know one person who has a 15" mbp, a CS major, and it's the 2015 one I know a LOT of people with 13" airs and pros. I don't see that happening until a 13" refresh
One interesting bit about the screen - the specs page now says it officially supports different refresh rates - including all of the common "video" refresh rates. "Refresh rates: 47.95Hz, 48.00Hz, 50.00Hz, 59.94Hz, 60.00Hz" - so double "NTSC 24 fps", double _actual_ 24 fps, double NTSC 29.97 fps, plus double PAL 25 fps. I'm kind of surprised they didn't go for Dolby Vision certification. (The specs do say it supports Dolby Atmos playback!)
Keyboard is a must and should be brought on par with the 2015, as the majority pros who use macbooks are Writers, Bankers and Lawyers who type a lot, like a lot. Also students who, armed with their student loan ammo wanna feel like pros.
The Magic Keyboard that came with my iMac was the worst typing experience. It was almost like typing on a piece of paper. Absolutely no tactile feedback. MacBook Pro 2017 keyboard was a pleasure to type on, it was nice and clicky and tactile (but not really reliable) I’m wondering how the new one compares to that.
HeadPack because the performance of older ports are just subpar comparing to Thunderbolt 3. With the right hubs, this thing can comfortable plug into 3x or 4x the amount of accessories a professional needs
@@booooooooooooooooooooooo I don't want to walk around carrying dongles. One Thuderbolt 3 port is appreciated for external hard drives, for everything else traditional USB ports are more than sufficient in terms of bandwidth. Most importantly nearly all of my peripherals are only USB compatible and I have never come across a thunderbolt 3 peripheral in the wild.
@@enwin1912 How is that limiting though? Thunderbolt 3 port supports more types of connection than any ports in the past. unless one could daisy chain 2 4k displays with USB A ports. Not to mentions, MacBooks aren't the only laptops out there. If you don't think it fits your needs, why not look at some of the great options on the Windows side?
@@sasshole8121 If you don't like adaptors, why not get new cables with a usb c connection on the other side for your peripherals. I bought a few for all of my hard drives with USB micro B to C, they are like 15 bucks in total, keeps things nice and clean.
@@booooooooooooooooooooooo It is still a hassle because it involves buying extra accessories and having a couple dongles always jutting out of the side of the Mac. The much more elegant solution would be to integrate a couple USB ports in the first place. Apple went with solely with Thunderport 3 because they have a financial stake in it, not out of any benefit to the customer.
I thought I was the only one who abhorred the grey, post 2015 MacBook Pros. I love my 2015 MacBook Pro with magsafe and ports but this 16" model is tempting. I look forward to the full review.
Running a late 2018/ 2TB/ 32GB and while sure I miss the SD card slot I fell in love with USB-C and it’s performance. Only thing and probably main reason that I would consider switching: the new arrow keys. What the fXXk was apple thinking on the old models not giving the arrows keys any space. The amount of times I misclicked in Lightroom probably cost me more time than a new MacBook would cost....
Really wish I could afford this laptop! The speakers are phenomenal, the monitor is gorgeous, and the new keyboard is actually super nice to type on. Now that my iPad is basically my main device I wouldn't totally mind a larger laptop (my current one is 13") for the extra power on the go.
I would say the SD card slot and the HDMI port are missing. But the SD card is like a really big bummer to not to have. So fully specced new Macbook pro is around 6 grand. CPU with 8 cores, 64Gb of RAM, Radeon 5500m with 8Gm of VRam and whooping 8Tb of SSD storage. Actually, not that bad.
Me: Buys a maxed-out 15 inch macbook pro Apple: Next day discontinues 15inch macbook, releases 16inch macbook that is better in every way same price. FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
What I want to know: Does it justify the price premium over a windows laptop with a more powerful GPU and better IO? Or to put it another way, is the only reason to buy one of these if you really want/need MacOS?
Yes, the only reason to buy one is want/need MacOS. You have to decide which OS is suitable for your needs and then decide hardware. If you are windows user and blindly buying Mac for its polished hardware then you are going to get disappointed, coz it will not fit for your expected windows use cases.
FYI, when windows machines directly compete with macbooks, they cost the same. Like the Lenovo Carbon w/4k monitor...it costs as much or more! The cheap windows machines are cheaper...because they use "full hd" displays...which are as dated and restrictive for productivity as spinning HDDs.
Admittedly the keyboard update is pretty important but I think the slightly larger footprint for better thermals is by far the most important IMO but a keyboard that isn’t 💩 is definitely a must.
RR Sharizam I personally don’t like numpads even on desktop keyboards . They either force the rest of the keys off center on laptops or your mouse has to move further away causing more shoulder strain.
What do you think about the new keyboard?
Meh
współpraca youtube
how can we know its not even on apple website yet lmfao
So, the keyboard is the same as it was on MacBook pro 2015 right?
I was loving the keyboard on 2018 model. Is it similar to 2018 model keyboard?
“Has more of a Thunk and a Clunck, than a Spring and a Snap, but at least it’s not as Tick-Tick-Ticky”
Perfect explanation.
😂
He has a degree in English 😹
It sounds silly but It's actually a good explaination
Anyone who has owned the 2015 MBP and also the updated version knows exactly what he means 😂
I love the MacBook Pro's butterfly keyboard. 2 full years now and no issues at all here. Apple is making a big mistake by going back to the old style keys.
This guys back must hurt from carrying the channel
And the company itself.
EXCLUSIVE: Dieter Bohn hospitalized after intense back injury due to carrying the entire company.
breaking: backlon breaks back
THE BOHN ZONE
Yeah he does the best reviews by far
Apple 2019: "You want battery ? more specs ? better camera ? old keyboard ? Desktop browser for a tablet ? Here take them all - 'cause I'm running business with apple card now "
Better camera?
Same 720p camera
@@yakovhadash nope the camera I mentioned was the Iphone 11 pro
@@Baronnax he was talking about the mBP, the phone and the IPAD
Verge Nov 12: Rumored 16 MacBook pro coming soon.
Verge Nov 13: Meet the 16 MacBook pro.
Time moves fast.
At 5:04, I accidentally said 'bluetooth microphone' instead of 'blue' - Dieter
its ok, Dieter
SSSIIIIGGGGHHHHHHHHH
Don't worry we are not throwing you down the cliff for such mistake...... Not yet
You forgot to add 2019 in the comment though.
I saw that in captions 😇
*Apple* : *releases uninteresting products at a big event 😑🙄
*Also Apple* : *releases actually interesting products randomly on their website🤓😎
Prabhjot Singh because people only care about design .. if this was showed on stage would be called boring , so .. they will wait until they refresh it IPad Pro style
@@jpsousaa yea sadly
Two monumentally different customer bases. People who just want a good keyboard...they don't have time to watch an Apple event!
@@jpsousaa This is not design. This is styling through and through, nothing practical about it.
João Costa did you listen to what dieter said about thermals? I think that’s not styling. Plus, what styling upgrade is there on this thing? It looks the same as last year’s
Thank you, Apple, for finally listening. I went from a 2018 model back to a 2015 model because I could not live with the keyboard. And I did not even have a faulty one - it was just a matter of the ergonomics. I could not feel my way around it, it felt terrible to type on, could never find the esc key and git the touch id by accident all of the time. The external magic keyboards are great in my opinion, so I'm having my hopes up for this.
Zaki Wasik how can you get confused with Touch ID and esc button. There are on different sides. And personally I love the butterfly keyboard. Only scissor keyboard I love are the ones that Lenovo uses.
Rameez Raza Riaz I think they mean that they accidentally hit the TouchID button by accident through normal use, not that they hit the TouchID thinking it’s the ESC key.
Antenox hitting the Touch ID button doesn’t do anything when the computer is on? Also have you tried clicking the Touch ID key? It’s hella firm to the touch, you can’t just “accidentally” hit it
@@booooooooooooooooooooooo I was talking about hitting the Touch ID button by accident. I had multiple users on the machine and just touching the button would send you to the fast user switching login screen. 🤦♂️Happened almost every time I was trying to use the backspace key.
@@UwUKris Great that you are having a good experience. I did care. So much that I sold the machine and bought an old version. I'm a software engineer and I type all day. But if you don't care, feel free to not upgrade.
Nice to see the price for storage actually gone done one tier with 512GB for based model and 1TB for the next tier up.
Nether Warrior base is 1TB now on the i9
So early that it isn't even on the Apple site yet
Me neither..!!
D2 it up now it’s the same price as the old 15” but very surprising cheeper than expected
now it's on Apple's website
Actually it is.
D2 New York not California
When the FCK did this come out?? I felt like I missed a day.
Rayray They all came out at the same time. no keynote or announcement
Rayray about 5 minutes ago.
It's a bit weird that they dropped the airpods pro and this without any keynote or anything.
@@mplovecraft cause they have the power to do it n it's trending rn
@@mplovecraft If they'd had a keynote for this, the would have HAD to have talked about the keyboard. And they really don't want to talk about the keyboard.
“The last one that everyone liked” oh so this channel that level of honest? Subbed
Still hanging on to my Late 2013 15" retina. Thing has been a champ. One of the last good ones. But once this starts to slow down, I'm not scared of switching after this new 16" update
6 years and still going strong...That's amazing!
Me too! Mine is a mid-2012 and I love it so much but it’s really starting to slow down 😢
@@tinabraz7736 you have sucked the life out of it! Hahahaha
Tina Braz did you update the os?
Shivansh Sharma think of you update the Mac OS on all MacBooks/iMac/Mac mini/Mac Pro, it gets slower, like iPhones
“No Phil Schiller...”
Jonathan Morrison: Hold My Beer
lol
We've introduced the Esc key
- Apple in 2019
*reintroduced
Lmaoo
MysteryMii you don’t get the joke at all
It's a bold move for those that hold it right
Dave2D where you at Bro???
Michael Pruett Haha you thought that too huh? Once he mentioned MacBook Pro in a freezer 💻 I said oh Dave2D is def to be credited for his work
he's here now :b
Please run an extensive test on the Touch Bar. In my opinion, if ANY of the functions don’t perform ONCE it is a failure and should not be on the machine. As a musician I need to have the play/pause button displayed always so I set the Touch Bar to show the original keys. I’ve done this on every MPB they’ve released with the TB and with normal use it always fails to work 5/10% of the time. Not to mention other functions getting stuck or not working sometimes either
I still love 2015 generation laptops.
Love the dedicated escape key… but I wish they brought back the SD card slot
Which is why I still keep my 2015 MacBook Pro
Finally something to be excited about. Now just waiting for the 13" variant...
you wana say 14" :D
@@PineappleTwist why?
@@Justin44777 they remove the 15" laptop from the apple site, so the logical next step is to replace the 13" by a bigger size screen...
@@PineappleTwist ohh nice
Too little too late I've switched to surface book (with and sd card reader, a touchscreen, and a mag-safe), and that was 2 years ago!
It would be very nice to see comparisons of IntelliJ and VS2019 compiling and debuging performances on i7, i9 models with different rams
Don't forget about Xcode.
@이재호 because I dont use it and its only running on mac => Cant compare its performance to other ultra books
@@andrewbrooks1355 Yeah imagine buying a MacBook Pro to do actual work... 🙄
@@andrewbrooks1355 such an ignorant comment
Andrew Brooks thats literall what macbook PRO is 😂 u on a wrong video mate
Also run the specs against 2-4 year old machines for a more real world scenario. I typically update after 4 years.
The fully-loaded version with the 8TB option is $6,099. That's about the same as the 4TB option a couple of years ago. Nice progress. Too bad our storage needs, with 46 megapixel photos and 4K video, have increased just as much if not more. Still, I'm glad it's available so I can have about one year's worth of online storage for my photos and videos.
The embargo is up.
The phones go nuts.
The notifications are filled.
And Apple finally ditched the keys.
ok rene
I have zero issue with the keyboard. I think it was all a bit blown out of proportion. Have purchased over 80 for my business over the past 4 years, zero problems.
I am interested in literally the last 10 seconds of this video, the keyboard. Please do a full-depth review on this!
Apple we don't care that you screwed up with the last few years' macbook pro. Thank you for finally not being ruled by pride and giving us what we want with keyboard/battery life/thermals. I want an sd card slot though. Yours truly, still 2015 macbook pro user.
Ordering it the 8GB of VRAM option for video editing on the go, that’s a big jump over the previous generation GPU.
Well done Apple!
yeah，4.5lbs for you on the go.
@@XJLCA that's not heavy
@@pr3cious193 Welcome to the gun show! :D
“Apple also says there is a three mic array that is studio-quality, I don’t know about that.”
Jonathan Morrison: I got you, bro.
I legit bought the 15inch yesterday and they automatically upgraded me to the 16inch so i dont have a choice with whether i get it or not hahahahahha
YASHHH
ACTUALLY THE KEYBOARD IS THE BIGGEST IMPROVEMENT...
Yeah and its surely worth this 4000$ for keybord
Often times the greatest progress is to aknowledge when something "new" is not working better than the "old", and scrapping it.
Always best to design "new" from something old that works than something that doesn't.
Was great that Apple tried to make a butterfly keyboard! But they held onto the concept waaaaaaaay to long. That didn't do them or the consumers any favors. Was great for Microsoft competition, though!
Physical Escape key. I'm sold.
I want this keyboard on my 13-inch one
Adam Siekierski it will happen given enough time. No company wants the bad PR / repair costs to deal with.
Next Level Code it would be great if they make it as a replacement for the current keyboards. But the cost of implementing it in existing models will be even higher
Dieter blowing off Apple specs with "or whatever" is my jam.
Finally. That 100 wH battery limit. I was asking tech forums about it and none knew about it. Thanks for bringing it up.
Dieter’s reviews are, hands-down, the best.
you should watch Dave 2D
Daniel Ortega daves are typically short and sweet but dieters have more meat to them
I like Dave 2D better.
The best on the verge. Mkbhds are better
I want Face ID on my new Macbook Pro until then I will wait.
I still have the 2015 15” MacBook Pro.
I’m sooo excited that the new iPad Pro magic keyboard has the same keys! Finally back to the old feeling of typing
How’s it in handling a 4k 60fps video export in final cut pro? I’m interested in knowing the heat and fan experience
I still have the 2015 MacBook Pro. And the reason that I’m not upgrading are the ports!
eventually youll have to
Nobody:
Dieter Bohn: "it's FINE"
Apple stated the individual keys are repairable, which is a huge advantage versus having to replace the entire chassis. Would love to see that tested out, i.e. pop a key off and replace it without any damage.
Still waiting for the 14 inch model
A size comparison between 2015, 2016 & 16 inch would be great :)
I've been waiting for this for quite some time. I can finally retire my old Macbook pro and get this one.
What I like of the 2019 model is that the entry model has standard 16GB RAM and a standard 512GB SSD disk. That saves money! I was looking to an Windows machine as replacement, but it is likely that I change my mind. Lots of developers are switching right now from a Mac to a Windows laptop .... just because Apple is asking to much money.
Can’t wait until all these Apple products will be available on subscriptions!
This will be revolutionary 👍🏽
@John West Check out in google how Apple prepares the iPhone to be on subscription!
I was about to buy this... until I see no SD slot??? Wtf??? How can I get my video camera footage on this?
Finally. Been waiting 4 years for this. Thank you Apple, but you almost lost a customer.
What you gonna do with it?
Out of 1B+ Costumer, what is losing “one” going to do?😂
@@Racko. Yeah I'm aware my money alone doesn't matter much, but I'm representative of a huge portion of Mac lovers who almost lost patience. These past few years have stained the Mac's reputation. Mac use to be the computer you could effortlessly recommend before 2016, and it simply wasn't the case after.
@@lalitsoni8854 Lol I'm not a Serious pro user myself, but I do use a ton of ram for multitasking and VMs. Also I enjoy a larger screen like a lot of people. But more importantly I hated the butterfly keyboard with a passion.
@@stephenfew3948 They can still be recommended, I don't see a problem, sure they had their issues but that doesn't mean anything, it's share is still growing
I have an early 2013 MacBook Pro, the first one with retina display and it is still a solid hardware. The only reason I want to change it because it’s been 6 years that I bought it. Honestly I never owned any hardware this long that to be still in such a good decent working order and performant for its age. I was waiting for something worthy to replace with and I think this is the model. I will buy it!
János Kelemen the first one with retina was late 2012, not 2013!
@@sondrejohansen48 Indeed, you're right. cheers!
It seems badass. I am getting it ASAP!👍
No face ID, no 1080p or higher res front camera - No WiFi 6 - Not much magic but trying to still Disney+ thunder which is more magic and magical :)
When will these design changes/keyboard come to the 13 inch, before back to school 2020? Or will it be a 14 inch
John Bolger need to know this
I know nothing about laptops and computers but they should but the touch bar as more of a touch pad down the side of the keyboard (where you would rest your hands) with more options and overall fine control
Any idea if they’re gonna come out with different sizes? Would love to get my hands on a 13-inch!
Ashwathi Naren the 13 inches already exists
artemis But that’s the older version, right? Will they be updating it?
Ashwathi Naren not any time soon, probably they will update it in may/June 2020 and probably it will get a 14 inch screen in the same body dimensions
artemis Ooh okay! Damn that’s a while away. Gonna have to wait!
How long can it sustain a clock speed?
Fps gains in gpu, blender bench marks would be great! ( 3d rendering )
Fusion 360 work flow!
Video export time
Key board reliability
Battery drain test plz
Ohh and last disk read / write speeds
Meanwhile college majors will get this for chrome browsing and Microsoft Office
Im in college and know one person who has a 15" mbp, a CS major, and it's the 2015 one
I know a LOT of people with 13" airs and pros.
I don't see that happening until a 13" refresh
Usaid Khan you already know Chrome is gonna need all those specs
One interesting bit about the screen - the specs page now says it officially supports different refresh rates - including all of the common "video" refresh rates. "Refresh rates: 47.95Hz, 48.00Hz, 50.00Hz, 59.94Hz, 60.00Hz" - so double "NTSC 24 fps", double _actual_ 24 fps, double NTSC 29.97 fps, plus double PAL 25 fps.
I'm kind of surprised they didn't go for Dolby Vision certification. (The specs do say it supports Dolby Atmos playback!)
Yeah, let’s connect the dots backwards this time.
I just bought the MacBook 16in in space gray I absolutely am in love with it
I'd like to know how well it performs with Blender, Davinci Resolve, and Filmora. Thank you!
Keyboard is a must and should be brought on par with the 2015, as the majority pros who use macbooks are Writers, Bankers and Lawyers who type a lot, like a lot. Also students who, armed with their student loan ammo wanna feel like pros.
Keyboard, cooling, and throttling - test these parameters pls
Compare it to the 2015 model for those who haven't upgraded yet to the butterfly models. Thanks man
The Verge: Pst, Marques, can i copy your homework?
Marques: Ok, just make it look a bit different
The Verge:
The Magic Keyboard that came with my iMac was the worst typing experience. It was almost like typing on a piece of paper. Absolutely no tactile feedback.
MacBook Pro 2017 keyboard was a pleasure to type on, it was nice and clicky and tactile (but not really reliable) I’m wondering how the new one compares to that.
What I’d like to know is, if they can bring back a decent keyboard, why don’t they bring back ports?
HeadPack because the performance of older ports are just subpar comparing to Thunderbolt 3. With the right hubs, this thing can comfortable plug into 3x or 4x the amount of accessories a professional needs
@@booooooooooooooooooooooo I don't want to walk around carrying dongles. One Thuderbolt 3 port is appreciated for external hard drives, for everything else traditional USB ports are more than sufficient in terms of bandwidth. Most importantly nearly all of my peripherals are only USB compatible and I have never come across a thunderbolt 3 peripheral in the wild.
@@enwin1912 How is that limiting though? Thunderbolt 3 port supports more types of connection than any ports in the past. unless one could daisy chain 2 4k displays with USB A ports. Not to mentions, MacBooks aren't the only laptops out there. If you don't think it fits your needs, why not look at some of the great options on the Windows side?
@@sasshole8121 If you don't like adaptors, why not get new cables with a usb c connection on the other side for your peripherals. I bought a few for all of my hard drives with USB micro B to C, they are like 15 bucks in total, keeps things nice and clean.
@@booooooooooooooooooooooo It is still a hassle because it involves buying extra accessories and having a couple dongles always jutting out of the side of the Mac. The much more elegant solution would be to integrate a couple USB ports in the first place. Apple went with solely with Thunderport 3 because they have a financial stake in it, not out of any benefit to the customer.
I thought I was the only one who abhorred the grey, post 2015 MacBook Pros. I love my 2015 MacBook Pro with magsafe and ports but this 16" model is tempting. I look forward to the full review.
Nov 10: No hardware installed. (dead wifi card)
Nov 13: Meet your new laptop. (I get it Apple)
Apple should bring back the glowing logo in the back, sd card reader, and classic usb port, that's all what I need
I’m still waiting on Apple to add a touchscreen to their laptops😒🙄
A 13/14 inch version of this would make me think to update from my perfect 2012 16gb 1TSSD MacBook Pro, that still runs Catalina like butter.
Finally, the keyboard!
Running a late 2018/ 2TB/ 32GB and while sure I miss the SD card slot I fell in love with USB-C and it’s performance. Only thing and probably main reason that I would consider switching: the new arrow keys. What the fXXk was apple thinking on the old models not giving the arrows keys any space. The amount of times I misclicked in Lightroom probably cost me more time than a new MacBook would cost....
I guess that dongle cashflow from SD card readers is still too good.
No, its because the other 95% of us users don't use or want a damn SD card reader. Stop asking for it!
@@MichaelGGarry Thank you, yeah
Michael Garry I think you forgot about a big percentage of people that actually use them: Photographers
Zerge6095 it’s been almost 4 years. I’d say photographers have moved on. It used to bother me when I’d edit my videos but it’s not a thing anymore.
Really wish I could afford this laptop! The speakers are phenomenal, the monitor is gorgeous, and the new keyboard is actually super nice to type on. Now that my iPad is basically my main device I wouldn't totally mind a larger laptop (my current one is 13") for the extra power on the go.
The time has come to replace my 2011 MacBook Pro!
I will keep my late 2011 17" for some more. Love the 17" screen. And with dosdude1's Catalina patcher it's still rocking
I would say the SD card slot and the HDMI port are missing. But the SD card is like a really big bummer to not to have.
So fully specced new Macbook pro is around 6 grand.
CPU with 8 cores, 64Gb of RAM, Radeon 5500m with 8Gm of VRam and whooping 8Tb of SSD storage. Actually, not that bad.
most of this review was "fine" and "sure" and "whatever"
The Microphone is actually Studio quality Dieter! This Mac is finally worth the money! Wish I could afford it.. lol
Bring back MagSafe and you've got a real winner...
I like the subtle background music!
going backwards is a true progress, well played apple
It's a good change
See mkbhd's review
The butterfly mechanism actually never went forwards sooooooo.....
@@lannypopcorn9429 well you didn't understand the comment soooooo......
Me: Buys a maxed-out 15 inch macbook pro
Apple: Next day discontinues 15inch macbook, releases 16inch macbook that is better in every way same price.
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@@maddifurxan5773 Imagine someone buying it 31 days before the release
What I want to know:
Does it justify the price premium over a windows laptop with a more powerful GPU and better IO? Or to put it another way, is the only reason to buy one of these if you really want/need MacOS?
I think that goes with all Macs. I use a Windows desktop but I prefer MacBooks for laptops.
Yes, the only reason to buy one is want/need MacOS. You have to decide which OS is suitable for your needs and then decide hardware. If you are windows user and blindly buying Mac for its polished hardware then you are going to get disappointed, coz it will not fit for your expected windows use cases.
macos is very fluid and smooth, and the value of a mac keeps it even after many years when you want to sell it
FYI, when windows machines directly compete with macbooks, they cost the same. Like the Lenovo Carbon w/4k monitor...it costs as much or more! The cheap windows machines are cheaper...because they use "full hd" displays...which are as dated and restrictive for productivity as spinning HDDs.
@steve crawford When you go shopping for a computer with
Admittedly the keyboard update is pretty important but I think the slightly larger footprint for better thermals is by far the most important IMO but a keyboard that isn’t 💩 is definitely a must.
This looks so good! I’m still happy with my 2017 13” model, but this could be my next 🤔
My 2011 MacBook Pro is still chugging along like a beast.
16" but no numpad?
Do Apple fans not use numpad?
RR Sharizam I personally don’t like numpads even on desktop keyboards . They either force the rest of the keys off center on laptops or your mouse has to move further away causing more shoulder strain.
I use MacBook Pro retina 13 late 2013 for almost six years and happy
I wonder will MacBook Pro have 10bit displays or 120fps displays by 2025?
My 2013 Macbook Pro still works perfectly fine
Apple only gave new MacBooks to those who won't test thermals
Music is real nice in this video!
Just the right sounds and volume :D
(around 3 min especially good bc its very spacial)
With the same starting price, this new MacBook Pro now starts at 512GB SSD. Well done Apple!
This really is the “we listened” model.
Why doesn't it have a full keyboard? If not a numpad, at least have a nav cluster. Home and End are really useful in Word or the terminal.
when they add the ports in the next one, then I'll buy it
I want to see them stacked on top of each other (top view) and next to each other with the 15 inch, so we can get a fell of how much bigger it is.