16” MacBook Pro Long Term Review
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Macbook Pro M1 Pro 16". I've used it for 2.5 years now, 443 cycles and maximum capacity is 95%.
I have a simple rule. I plugin 80% of the time, and add the cap charging percentage at 85% (using Al Dente). When I use it unplug, I only use down to around 50% (around 5 hours with heavy work with VSCode and 2 Docker images running in constant debugging mode). I also try to keep it as cool at possible.
Imagine Buying a 3,500$ laptop and babying it this much like it's a good thing.
@@danielkemmet2594yeah a 3500 laptop that’ll last him 6+ years as opposed to being careless with it and replacing it in 2
@@danielkemmet2594 do you buy a $80k car and leave it to rust and crumble/stop servicing it?
I feel all expensive things should be taken care of. Just because they're expensive doesn't mean they're an autonomous Adult
@@danielkemmet2594 lol, I baby my $1000 Asus for 4 years. Can I baby my Mac now, so I can squeeze every fk dime I spend on it?
Thats pretty impressive. Nice job dude.
Love my 16 inch 16gb ram m1 pro, got it in december 2021, 96% full charge capacity, 232 cycle count. Always fast, never heats up, never makes a noise. Have used dockers, windows on parallel at the same time and all sorts of other stuff open. My first ever macbook and can't see myself going back to windows
My M1 Macbook Air is at 87 % with 115 cycle counts 😂
i knew it! there is something special about 87%
Same dude. First 1 year, always plugged in and it got to 87% with only like 50 cycles and then stayed there for eternity.
@@mihirsinghyadav feels like planned obsolescence...
@@LordAlacorn ikr 😮💨
i'm using "Al Dente" on my M3 Air and hope mine has 100% SoH for a little longer 😅
First, I want to thank you for this battery benchmark over the past year and congratulate you on creating such informative videos. Judging by the condition of those Macs, it's clear they've been through some tough times :)))). This is also reflected on the battery capacity losses. Guess 13% loss in one year of demanding workloads is pretty good no?
Second, it seems I've been taking it easy on my 16" M2 Max with 32GB RAM! Since February 2023, it has only gone through 125 charge cycles, and the battery is still at 97% capacity.
Most of the time, I charged it to 80% and then unplugged it. When I wasn't coding, I set the energy mode to low power for activities like watching movies, RUclips, and reading documents.
In recent months, I’ve rarely used Docker to host databases, caches, etc., since I moved that workload to a small in-house Linux cluster. :)
Alex, thanks for your LONG TERM REVIEW for MacBook Pro. Because this type review is very rare.
Glad it was helpful!
Hmm, just checked... M3 Max, 8 months old, at 60 cycles I have... 100% - Maximum capacity. I didn't expect that.
And I never use the magsafe charger, might as well throw that away. The whole point of having thunderbolt is to eliminate all other cables, and have one single cable that does everything - sends video/audio to the monitor, communicate to any usb device that is plugged in the monitor hub, and receive power from the monitor... all with one single beautiful cable, no clutter (2 cables would already be 1 cable too many).
I don't know if the settings matter, I have "Optimised Battery Charging" turned on... And in those 8 months, I maybe used it on the go (so without the external monitor) to drain it to below 30-25% less than 5 times.
Base model m1: 139 cycle, 92%. I use it 8-12 hours every single day and love it. My work stuff is mainly office, mails and slack and RDP combined with apple productivity things like the calendar/reminders/notes combo with apple music or podcasts in the background. After work I use it to private things like light photo (pixelmator pro) and video editing (imovie) to edit 4k60fps video from my i13 mini. So for so good, not a single hiccup, one if the best deals of my life that I will keep until it's supported, and after that it will be a secondary linux machine. I love the older macbook design, it's really comfy to type, trackpad is amazing. I was first worried about the 8GB ram, but nothing bad so far, it usually uses 1-2GB swap, the SSD still holds up, will see if it has issues because of swapping.
I was a PCMR guy all my life, but apple got me with this, I probably go for the actual base air when the sw support ends on this.
Thanks for the info. I'll wait for the M4
My M2 Air battery has 95 cycle count and still 100% capacity after almost 2 years. I never continue to use it connected to power after full charge, disconnect and let it discharge to 10%. It looks like it really helps.
if only I could close the lid and use external monitor without keeping the mbp connected to the grid all the time... :/
@@ivanhoe011this is what irks me too! I use a big external monitor for approximately 95% of the time when I am using MBA M1. It would've been very useful if I were able to use it with the lid closed and unplugged.
@@hydrolifetech7911 why you cannot use it when lid is closes?
The fact that it has so low cycle count after 2 years only means that the battery lasts too damn long
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Macbook Pro M1 Pro 16'. Manufactured May 2022, bought november 2022. 131 cycles, 92% health. I use Al Dente to limit charge to 90% and I usually keep it plugged in if I'm at home. I almost never discharge completely. But I'm certainly not as careful as I could be. I've opened it once to clean it recently and it was almost pristine inside. So I'm pretty glad. No scuffs or marks either, looks like a brand new machine. Paid 3150€, about 3400USD.
Next one will probably be twice that because I'll most certainly get the most powerful chip. Maybe M4 generation, we'll see.
I have had my 16 inch M1 Max MacBook Pro for just over a year and it is at 85% Battery health. Bit I do have 535 charge cycles on on Mac.
Loving my M3 pro. I’ve upgraded from every Apple Silicon MacBook only because I traded my last MacBook and I do notice and appreciate the performance gains especially when it comes to resource heavy applications like Xcode
Gonna be waiting for the 10-year review. I have to test the longevity and the build quality.
I bought a used 16” M1 MacBook Pro coming from a mid 2012 MBP took a while to get used to the size but I love it for music production, video and photo editing, homework. I hope it lasts 10 years!
I'm using a regular 16GB M2 MacBook Air on the go and have been happy with it for over a year, which is a good thing considering it's my first MacBook. The battery life is also strangely close to yours. 91% at 133 cycles.
Despite the laptop being sufficient for literally everything I do with it (and it is a lot) when I need to do some real(er) work I just fire up my PC at home with 2 27-inch monitors. Sure, it isn't portable, but the advantage is that I can upgrade just the things I need and is always roughly up to date. I recently went from 16GB to 32GB and never hit swap afterwards.
Great review, very honest
Just use AlDente Tool to restrict the max load (SOC) of the battery. 80% is recommended. Since I work mostly plugged in or with a plug nearby, I set level to 70%. Additionally I also changed sailing mode to 25% less, so loading will only starting when under 44%. As 40-60% is the optimal loading window for batteries this will even more improve longevity.
In that rare cases I need really more battery, I can quickly start loading to overrule that. Additionally, when being mobile, one power bank is enough, so normally I don't have to care for loading more than the mentioned 70% before I leave the house.
16" M1 Pro, had it since November 2021. 328 cycle count and 89% max capacity. It spends most of the time plugged into an older Belkin Thunderbolt port. This computer runs as well as it did on day 1, and I hope to get several more good years from it.
I have been using mbp 2013 still 11 years , still amazing! 🤩
Watching on my 14in MBP M2 Max which I've had since 5/1/23. At 89% w/ cycle count of 47. BTW: I ❤ this machine and am not regretting getting the smaller size. I'm usually connected to a monitor (and MagSafe), so the smaller display is just auxiliary. When I am out and about with it, I appreciate it being more lap friendly and one-hand totable. Thanks for your reviews and feel free to AMA.
I have a M1 MacBook Pro within a year of the release date. The capacity is 96% and cycle count of 28. MagSafe is alway plugged in. I use it mostly as a desktop PC.
Alex I love your videos, great content. I wish you could lets us know as a soft engineer, Can we trust and use aldente?
87% here too on an ipad pro and on most second hand macs and ipads , it's a simple if condition , if { used for a year or less } Print (" Battery Percentage 87% ")
I'm holding my copilot pc purchase till I watch your test videos and comparisons with macbooks.
Great video!
Awesome video! 😍
thanks friend !
I have a MBP M1 Max and love it for doing my audio work, my only regret is not getting the 16" because I'm getting older and eyes aren't what they used to be. I also have an old 27" iMac i9 ten core and have to say that computer still holds it's own against the M1 Max. Doing audio core counts really matter. See where Apple is going with the M3 and M4 chips I decided to my a Mac Studio M2 Mac for a second audio workplace. The DAWs I use Logic Pro and Ableton Live neither one uses the efficiency cores so that why I got a M2 Max based Mac now, the M3 and M4 are basically just adding more for graphics AI.
88% and 336 cycles on a M1 Pro 16" bought just after release - though during the week at work, I never have it plugged in
14" M1 Pro, 2021, 207 cycle count and 95%. At home and on the road, I'm charging it USB-C, at work I use the magsafe charger.
I'm not a developer but I find your videos informative and entertaining. I run a Mac Book Pro M1 Pro and it has more power than I need. I chose it for the lovely display. Two years in mine shows Battery Health at 98%. Showing 140 charge cycles most of the time running in "Low Power" mode. I try to never charge to 100% and avoid charging until it drops to
My M3 Max 16" just developed a band of vertical lines on the screen. A hardware issue as the lines don't appear on a screenshot. Taking it to the "genius" bar in a few hours. Had this machine for a whole 5 months before this problem, battery still at 100%
Did they fix it
Watching on my 16in MacBook Pro with m3 max
noice!
Same here brother!
A little more than half a year of using it, M3 pro 14 inch and have 100%. I always charge it when drops to 20 and charge it only to 80. Use it every day..
Happy with my M1max 16" MBPro & M2 MBAir on the go. For some years...
My M1 Max MBP is on 88% with 171 cycles. I also always have it connected to a Thunderbolt Dock (CalDigit TS4) in clamshell mode.
16-inch M1 Max. Work from home, so typically keep connected to monitor via Thunderbolt for power. 131 cycles, 87% capacity ✨
My M1 Macbook Air is 95% at 115 cycles. I rarely use it out of my desktop setup, outside of a few work trips, so the cycles are probably the Macbook going from 100% to 80% on a stand-by charging level and going back up to 100% after a power drop at night (which is kinda common in the old building that I live)
I am still working on MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014) 2,5 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7, the native battery is swollen three year ago, replaced to new one but always on wire, I already sanded down the edges near the touchpad with my hands :)
how long battery last for when it bought new bro
@@shiftto 7 years, The battery swelled and began to squeeze out the bottom cover. They say new MacBooks don't have this problem, so don't worry
Hey Alex, great video and new subscriber here. Since I bought my M1 MacBook pro 16' in 2022, I've been running an experiment micro-managing the charging my self. I plug-in magsafe when the battery is below 30% and disconnect the charger when it is over 80%. I've been told it's unnecessary but I kept going and now it is becoming my habit. There has been a few times forgot to disconnect but the percentage has never been below 20%. Here is the stats: 98% (After 1-year heavy use); 94% (After 2-year heavy use).
Awesome, thank you!
I agree with your strategy, that's good management and should limit battery wear. Al Dente is an app that can help with this 🙂
Al Dente battery software does this for you. Free version does the basic max charge limitation, by default set to 80%. Pro version has a bunch of bells and whistles, but not needed.
Hey Alex! Sorry for not having scanned through 270 other comments to check if someone has mention this already but as a regular user of the MySQLWorkbench myself I can tell you that a couple of months ago they finally have released a native ARM build. 😄
ah nice! thanks for the heads up.
Thx Alex for your review, actually i did the same, but i did do 96GB on my M2 Max instead of M! Max 32GB, also some more SSD, so in the end i am happy,
but the performance gain is not very noticeable, even so having some more GPU cores, but due to RAM of course i can do more...
I have a 16-inch MacBook with an M1 Max chip, bought in September 2022. The cycle count is 272, and the maximum battery capacity is 89%. I only use the Apple charger to charge it and do not use a dock. I connect an external monitor, mouse, and keyboard using an Apple Type-C adapter with a Logitech Bolt connection for my wireless MX mouse and keyboard.
I am using AlDente to limit the charge on my Mac to around 80%. It does other things too in order to limit wear in the battery. Sometime I need 100% so will top it up.
I have the M3 Max with 128 GB of shared memory. Mistral 8x7B and Llama 3 70B run like a charm. :)
92% after nearly 3 years with my MBP 16" M1 Max. Nearly always plugged with Magsafe as a more or less stationary computer.
I'm on a 16" M1 Pro MacBook pro and it's still fantastic.
I have an M1 Pro Macbook pro 16 inch and I absolutely love the machine. I don't work on it for work, but it's great to code on for personal projects and learning. My new software job gave me a choice of laptops, and I requested a 16 inch M3 pro macbook pro so I'll have another one for work now haha
About the battery health: I have a m3 pro and use Al Dente to limit the battery to 70% max charge with 10% buffer (so it starts to charge at 60)
it is now at 46 cycles and still 100% health
I got the 14" MPB because, depending on sales, it's often the same price as an Air after upgrading the storage and RAM to parity, and almost always within $200. For that $200 you get better screen, better battery life, better speakers, and faster processor (though the faster processor doesn't matter to me). When people mention the weight, my usual reaction is to say go to the gym. I've gotten used to carrying a Mac, Thinkpad, and at least 1 tablet.
The M1 Pro is still going strong. The only time it feels even slightly slow is when launching Microsoft apps.😂 8/10, would recommend to anyone.
Yeah exactly, it's not like these "heavy" MBP's are heavy at all. I used to travel with a 2009 17" MBP. My current 16" M1 Pro MBP is a lightweight in comparison. "Do you even lift, Pro?"
My M2 Max was bought in May 2023, and now the max capacity is 89% (64 cycles). I only used MagSafe for charging, I've never charged using USB-C. The "Optimised Battery Charging" option is turned on.
M1 Max 16'' Pro, using it from November 2021, cycle count 90, battery health 93%. It is constantly connected to the charger (not Apple's).
I'm facing the same battery health issue with my 14 inch M2 Pro Mac. I keep my original 100w mac charger hooked all the time and keep "optimised batter charging" at ON (..but it works only at times). Now it almost an year since i bought and my batter health is at 93% with the cycle count of 35!!
should i buy the m1 macbook pro 16 inch or should I get the m2 series
I got a M3 Max 14" it is at 98% with 194 cycles after about 7 months now.
I unplug it every time its at 100% and plug it back in when I reach 30-40%.
16" M1 Max here, 197 cycle counts at 97% capacity. I only charge via type c, since it's a one-cable rule them all with my ipad pro. I try to work in a cool environment as much as I could since I notice that if I work outdoor my battery seems to last only 6 hours.
Heat is the biggest killer of batteries, so working in a cool environment is a good choice. It also feels better to not cook my laptop imo.
Yes. I am happy user with my old 8 GB M1 Macbook air. I upgraded to 16GB M3 Mavook Air so that I could upgrade my fujifilm camera from 24M sensor to 40M senor the same time. I hated that M1 MBA is limited to 8 GB only.
How does the Cycle Count and Maximum Capacity work? i've had mine since July 2023 and have 97 Cycles and 94% max capacity.. is it related to what chargers i'm using?
M1 Pro 16, ~230 cycles, 94%. I don't use a Thunderbolt dock, just a simple dongle with USB2 and HDMI out.
MacBook Pro M1 here, from 2021 - 290 cycles and 95% of capacity using Al Dente and charging at 85%.
Do you always charge to 100%?
I mostly use the optimized charging where the charger holds it at 80% it seems to keep the battery in better condition. I only charge it to 100% if I know that i will need it for whole day without charge possibility
2019 15 inch MBP, i7 16Gb RAM, still use it as my work machine. Only maintenance - replaced battery and cleaning, totally will buy Macs in future. P.S. I work as software/hardware engineer + some animation and hard surface modelling as hobby.
I use Al Dente to limit charge to 80%. There's a lot of data to indicate this significantly reduces battery wear, especially if laptop is plugged in most of the time. There is now an 80% limit option baked-in to the new M4 iPad Pro, and reportedly the Vision Pro only ever charges to 80% of the hardware capacity. Maybe try that for a year next time you run a similar test. (there's a 'top up' option for those times when you need full charge).
Yes, the science of LiOn is proven, and the short answer is that if you keep to 80% charging capacity, you will double the life of your battery. So, on an iPhone, it will go 500 cycles before health hits 80% capacity, charging to full, but stop charging at 80%, and it will go to 1000 cycles before reaching 80% health.
Macbook pro 16, M1 Pro. Cycle count 259, Maximum Capacity 90%.
Purchased in October 2021.
I have the 16 inch M3 Max (16 core CPU / 40 core GPU / 48gb RAM / 1TB) and it is fantastic for all of my software development needs and is my workhorse. I also have a M2 MacBook Air (16gb RAM / 1TB SSD) and it is my go to laptop for using on the go, in bed, and around the house because it is so thin and lightweight that I hardly even notice it in my lap. It is also my writing laptop for that reason. Honestly right now there is no one machine for all of my needs and therefore two laptops + a desktop for any Windows / Linux specific dev tasks is my go to at this point.
I’m a software engineer but I still use the MacBook Pro 13 M1 with 16GB ram and 1TB of storage. I still do not feel the need to upgrade. I did upgrade to the latest iPhone because of ram issues.
Basic M2 Pro 14", 1 year, 119 cycles, Maximum Capacity: 100%. Charged mostly by USB-C (I guess 80W power) from a Dell monitor.
I got m3 max speced out sitting in a box rn. Unopened for a week since it got delivered. This book is so timely as I’m considering returning
M1 Max 16" Cycle count 39 max capacity 90%. i rarely unplug it , it just sits on my desk. had it for 2 years.
Macbook Pro M1 Max 16". I've used it for 2 years now, 145 cycles and max capacity is 90%.
Stays plugged in most of the time to dell docks, 59 charge cycles… 100% capacity on my 14” M2 MacBook Pro 18 months old.
My system report for the battery is 100% after globally 8 month of use, and cycles at 81 on my M2 15 inches MacBook Air. I use it most of the time on battery, just charge it when it is needed (often every two days, for a couple of hours). Developing Unity and Godot stuff on it
M2 MAX - love it
I saw a video of geekbench points divided by max clock speed. Yes, I know this is not very scientific, but it was interesting. M1, M2, M3 were basically identical - most of the extra performance was just down to higher clock speed. The cost is heat and noise, obviously, which I think we've observed. M4 was significantly faster per clock. It's the first Apple silicon chip based on Arm v9, which could be part of the reason. This might be enough reason for you to move. Also, M4 gets support for matrix maths operations, which will be huge for some ML tasks.
i have a macbook pro 14" 10 cores and 32gb, its maxinum capacity is at 100% and have 44 cycles,
i've only used magsafe to power it up.. i guess it is ok for now (almost a year of owning it)
M2 Pro 16, almost one year, 41 cycle, 100%. I mostly use it as a desktop PC.
My Macbook Pro M1 16" is also at 87% with 110 cycles.
my Macbook pro M1 2019 (so about 3 years old) is at 91% after 55 Cycles and I have it plugged into usb c power at my desk via Studio display 24/7. I also have it set to only charge to 80%. so there's that.
Got 100% max Cap. w/ 126 cycles over year and a half usage
140 cycle count. 93 percent. I've only used the Mag Safe. I'm on M1 Max since 2001. I'll wait for the M4 to upgrade.
what USB hub did you have please
You might want to fix the Amazon link for the M3 Pro in the description. It has 2 a’s instead of 1
My Mac Air M1 bought new in Nov 2021 has now 89% battery capacity. It's been 2.5 years and still 89%. I've used only original Apple charger that came with my Mac. Cycles count: 116.
Hey Alex, maybe change the strategy when you switch to a new one. My m2 max is at 50 ish cycles and at 97% capacity. I plugged it it all day pretty much all the the time though
I too have 87% battery health and 214 cycles in and I've been using this M1 Pro since 2022.
This stuff used to bother me all the time but honestly, as long as it lasts (and it does!) as you need it to, it's great.
Imho, compared to the 2017 Intel era, I have a far better battery experience on this thing and I love it.
M2 Air is at 97% with 297 cycles over 22 months. Mine is constantly being charged through the Thunderbolt
My M2 max is at 100% with 17 cycles after a year of use. To be fair, it’s nearly always plugged in, and i set Al Dente to have a limit at 55% and allowing it to sail to 45%. Seems to work great! :)
Obviously this is just the setup for home use and when i take it on holidays i disable Al Dente and don’t leave it plugged in
After two years of mostly plugged-in usage my base MBP 14 2021 on M1 Pro battery has:
Cycle Count: 87
Maximum Capacity: 98%
do you not use external screens ?
I have an M1 13 inch MacBook Pro I bought in November of 2020 and its still super fast with its 8 GBs of RAM. I probably won't upgrade until stops getting security updates.
You should close icloud sync for battery capacity for new macbooks. So you can get 100% capacity back.
I have my 16” M1 Max MacBook Pro, and it absolutely love this machine! It’s blazingly fast and efficient! It still feels like new! I’m going to be holding off upgrading it until the next 5-10 years!
If you are using your MacBook mainly attached to monitor/hub with USB-C there is software called AlDente which can limit charging to 75%/80%. Working all day with limited charge preserve battery. My battery has 99,6% according to Coconut Battery (100% system report). Highly advised.
@@marcinmjk I normally leave my MacBook plugged into power socket and attached to monitors etc, is this healthy? Does this screw up the battery?
@@MrOktony my old Pro 13” with Touch Bar ended up with 80% after jest 2 years of usage like that
MacBook Pro M1 14". Battery is 974 days old according to coconutBattery. It's mostly plugged into an ultra wide monitor via USB-C (60 W) and rarely used on battery.
Cycle Count: 278
Condition: Normal
Maximum Capacity: 87%
I am watching on my MacBook Pro 16 (2019), still think it is a good machine for few year more
I'm using my M1 Mac for almost half a year now. I only lost 1% of Battery capacity in that time. I almost exclusively only use USB C Power (coming from the Docking station).
To be fair, I'm not really mobile with my device, but I do use AlDente to limit the maximum charge to 73%, and let it sail for 15% until it tops up the charge again.
Might help keeping the Capacity high. My cycle count is at 70, and max capacity is shown as 99%.
Hi confirm you said your 16” air can handle video editing plus other heavy browsing well?
Trying to assess if I should go for the m3 air 16gb or pro as I’m not a heavy user but want something that does the job without heating or lags
Just depends how much video editing you're doing. The MBA chip is plenty powerful for casual editing, but will throttle if processing long vids due to limited cooling ability. It will still process them fine, it will just be a bit slower. Recommend maxing out the RAM to 24GB though. Apple lets you return stuff within 2 weeks if it doesn't work out for ya.
M1 MacBook Pro, almost 3 years of usage, holding at 60-70% charge using AlDente and currently 99% battery health @118 cycles. I believe the key is not to keep the battery at very high or very low state of charge, like when docked.
118 cycles in 3 years? Do you even use it?
@@twitchizle many people use it as desktop with ability to be mobile when needed. I'm one of those people. Battery usage doesn't tell how much time computer is used
@@twitchizle If you use it plugged in then the battery count stays static. As cycle count tells you how many times you have discharged 100% of the capacity.
@@twitchizle almost entirely plugged to an external monitor. However used it at least 8 hours/day as it’s my main dev machine
M1 air had it for almost 3 years 918 cycles 45% battery health. Can't use it without being plugged in but I'm getting the battery replaced soon
Got 16" Macbook m2 and I wish I could've bought the 14" with the maxout ram (96GB or 128GB ram). Maxed out ram is quite expensive and AI was not a thing when I purchased it. Now, I cound run barely those big LLM's.
87% on my M1 Pro 14" with 577 cycles on the battery and I have literally NEVER used MagSafe, not even once. I use the laptop about 70% plugged in to a hub or monitor, and 30% on battery.