VHS - Better than you don't remember
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- Опубликовано: 1 апр 2016
- Are VHS video cassettes ripe for a retro comeback like vinyl? Probably not, but they are a very cheap (or even free) way to collect movies from the '80s and '90s, and the quality may be better than you remember, especially if you never got to experience a Hi-Fi Stereo VCR played through a surround sound system.
0blivi0n100's video about the Panasonic DMP-BD70V VHS/Blu-ray combo player that can play VHS tapes through an HDMI output: • Panasonic DMP-BD70V VH...
Sony also had a DVD/VHS combo unit with 1080p HDMI and component video output from VHS, as featured in this video: • Thrift store Handycams... 
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Nice video! I'm in my late 30s and I grew up with VHS, and I'm so sick of people saying that the quality was "crap". It's nonsense.
+David Halligan but it was crap
Ironleg The only thing that is crap is your pathetic english.
I've seen VHS with very good quality depending on the quality of the player and the tape, you are fucking delusional if you think no VHS tape looks good so it is nonsense to say all vhs looks bad.
The guy has every right to disagree with you, get your high horses off.
@@kungbombo20 one thing that vhs has that still holds up is hifi audio
hifi audio is SO good!
It was only crap if you bought a dirt cheap 2head mono machine, and never cleaned the tape transport.
But the high end HiFi machines with 6 heads could give great results, especially with tapes that hadn't been abused.
Yeah, there is something to be said for the robust qualities of today's "solid state" formats, but VHS, Vinyl, and even standard music cassettes were far more engaging. You just had to take a little more care of your machines, and the media you played on them. Something that many people misunderstood at the time, hence why the likes of VHS got such bad press. But for some of us who took care of our machines and media, the VHS technology served us well for a good 15-20 years. I still use VHS today, but only as a high quality music recording format, and watching the occasional VHS movie.
We can no longer record TV to VHS anymore in the UK, unless you have a standalone set top box connected to your VCR, because all TV is transmitted digitally in the UK, and VCR's, as far as I know, were only ever equipped with analogue tuners. But good results could be had if you had a digital set top box connected via a Euro AV, or Scart 21 pin connection. This was a popular way to connect devices in Europe, for better quality picture and sound, as opposed to an RF connection, which was indeed, CRAP. The scart connection divided the picture up into its RGB components, and separated the sound into its respective channels before it reached the TV, so there was much less flickering, picture noise, and colour bleaching. And sound could be transferred in stereo to a compatible TV. It was sort of a direct connection in a way, bypassing a lot of the TV's picture and sound processing circuitry.
I am not sure how these improvements were achieved in the US, if at all. But I'd be interested to know.
Some may look on VHS as inferior technology compared to Bluray, and even DVD. But at the time, it opened up the Home Video phenomenon to the masses, and allowed people to record their favourite TV shows for the first time ever, giving people more flexibility with their time.
So in a way, VHS and to a lesser extent, Betamax were a revelation and a LIBERATION.
If you know how to use your tracking right the quality on VHS is a pretty decent picture quality and that's coming from someone who still uses VHS today
Ahh, when “Star Wars” was called “Star Wars” and not “A New Hope”. I miss those days.
I try to bring back those days and no one knows what I am talking about.
The special edition is always a bunch of digital low-budget enhancements that nobody asked for.
I absolutely love that you made all the right decisions for processing 480i video. Anybody who wants to capture analog video material should use this video as the standard to aspire to.
Deinterlaced to 480p 60fps - the best choice when dealing with true 60i video or mixed 60i video & telecined film.
Upscaled to 720p so that youtube would actually retain the 60fps rather than decimating it to 30fps.
Kept a proper 4:3 resolution rather than 16:9 with black bars on the side, so that it displays properly on 4:3 screens such as iPads and some Samsung tablets.
This video does a really good job of representing the quality we would perceive when viewing a VHS tape on a CRT. VHS is far lower quality compared to the formats we have today, but it isn't the absolute garbage quality you see on most captures uploaded to youtube.
it's deeply saddening how many conversions don't follow these obvious rules
Yes!!
I collect VHS tapes and I watch them pretty much every day.
They watch you too! 🤪
Idk why.
I love the soft image of VHS.
It doesn't hurt my eyes : )!
I used VHS hi fi. I like to record music on the tapes. The sound quality is superb. It's a shame they stoped puting adjustable audio meters on them.
Oh god that THX intro used to scare the crap out of me.
Thanks for making this. It’s just like I remember!
I hope vhs make a comeback
japan made them up until 2016.
VHS is still my preferred format - mainly because it is an analog format. You can pick up VHS tapes for less than a dollar usually and some stores still sell VHS blanks (atleast in my area, they do).
6 head Super VHS VCRs were the best IMHO since they were built for both LP and EP modes. 6 - 8 hours out of a VHS tape is not too bad IMHO. Ofcourse the video quality will degrade more quickly at those slower speeds, but still 8 hours of video is quite a bit to store on 1 VHS tape.
Yes, I know we have digital video recorders that can record more than 8 hours of video at higher resolution, but my preference is still VHS.
I used to hate widescreen, until I realized just how much you lose with the 4:3 aspect ratio.
By the late 1990’s some companies like Disney, Touchstone and Hollywood Pictures at the time when they were home video distributors released a series of movies in widescreen as part of the “Widescreen Edition” series. All of these films are presented entirely in widescreen, and it might be compatible for HD TV’s since it wasn’t introduced later on. That didn’t last long until DVD’s were introduced. All of the VHS tapes from 1977 through 2006 or 2007 are in standard definition 4:3 aspect ratio, a perfect fit for its time.
But if you were to put almost every movie from 4:3 to 16:9 you would loose the top and bottom of the screen. Examples of this are Most Universal movies, Looney Tunes Back in Action, Early DreamWorks films, and some Disney/Pixar films.
I want to see D-VHS come back. I still have my D-VHS recorder, and quite a few pre-recorded tapes. I swear it looked as good as Blu-ray.
+Brandon MacEachern Its ATSC 1080i MPEG-2 video, it should look as good! I landed up with a giant box of prerecorded DVHS tapes with mostly movies, many of which didn't even see a BluRay release until recently.
It didn't trust
Do you think D-VHS machines are backwards compatible with the Old VHS format? I bet it plays the Older VHS tapes in BETTER QUALITY than the analog machines. Just like DCC Machines can play the Older Compact Cassettes in Better Quality.
I am 14 and I *love* VHSs. Although their quality isn't the best, they still are a novelty to be sure. They look great on a CRT TV (my setup) and I love to look at the VHS itself. The thing with most analog quality like VHSs, cassettes, vinyl, etc. are their tactile and nostalgic quality which I adore. For my setup, it is humble (stereo VCR in composite on a CRT television), but I feel they are an experience to be sure.
I think that the "reason" why VHSs look "bad" is due to people recording TV shows through mono input and on the LP setting (long play) which is known to reduce the quality of the recording.
@@SanctusPaulus-ic5glmost early DVDs where completely and utterly visually indistinguishable from VHS
There was no improvement whatsoever
Another thing that causes poor quality is VHS's vertical resolution 240 lines 🤪
But hey, back in the day I still preferred a good VHS to a typical DVD with its compression artifacts
I think Component is the best that anything older can hope for with older CRT's, it isn't bad at all once everything is new and cleaned, but its no HD.
my vhs/dvd deck has hdmi
Yes, there are some that do, actually my best friend's family have an LG DVD recorder/VCR that has HDMI sockets on it. I don't know if this means you can play VHS tapes via the HDMI output or not.
Component is capable of HD, albeit analog, but it still doesn't help with the VHS quality problem. :P
Honestly any other output from VCRs is pointless. The analog signal recorded on the VHS tape is composite video anyway.
fancy seeing you here
ProtoMario what about RGB?
Man, I remember popping in a tape and just sitting back watching bttf as a little kid. A trip down memory lane.
+Carl Couture Keep in mind that RUclips's re-encoding reduced the quality and caused a lot of blockiness, especially during the New Kids on the Block Coca-Cola commercial.
+vwestlife well lets accept it VHS (even for its time ) wasnt a quality format (Beta was better in terms of video quality) and there is no reason to keep VHS other than personal reasons... its not like vinyl were the quality surely shines and if not better at least competes (depending on the quality of the parts involved) to modern hq audio formats
Bill Killernic There are movies on VHS which were never released on DVD or Blu-ray, and VHS tapes can be found very cheap (25 cents each at a thrift store near me) or even free, so it's a very cheap way to amass a movie collection.
vwestlife well its way more efficient (moneywise and quality wise) to download movie torrents @ 1080 quality (~1,5GB )
Since I can only understand paying for a movie if you want to support the studio or for being legal (by paying loyalties like you do when you subscribe in netflix or similar sites)
but buying used vhs movies for a few cents from thrift stores doesn't make sense its not legal (it might be not illegal per se but it certainly is a gray area) so you don't win legitimacy compared to downloading torrents
and quality, ease of use and convenience of acquisition is far more superior.
(I am typing this post while watching "Streets of fire 1984" @ 720p quality which I torrented.. :P its just vastly superior even in 720p)
Bill Killernic Buying and selling used VHS tapes (or DVDs, etc.) is legal. Downloading torrents of copyrighted movies is not. I do not support illegal activity and neither should you, especially when the cost of doing it legally is so minimal. You're risking getting fined thousands of dollars and having a criminal record, just to save a few bucks -- is that really worth it?
+vwestlife well said it can cause small production to go out of business too. It's the same with pirated games and software!
A high quality CRT should really provide the best experience for VHS due to the dynamic resolution, no de-interlacing or scaling required... provided you have a good deck and a good comb filter to filter out the dot-crawl.
VHS itself was a composite format though so you're never going to be able to achieve the full quality of the display because the color bandwidth was sub-sampled a lot lower than even composite's specification. That's the reason behind the amount of color-bleed on VHS - you actually only get about 20 vertical lines of color information for the entire image (the rest is monochrome signal)
+HaggisNoodles Very well said
A good SD CRT is definitly the way to go with VHS.
They had HD VHS and it was better than HD DVD it was the best quality.
HaggisNoodles i be watching VHS tapes every day Right After work
HD VHS (named D-VHS) was just a footnote in home video tape history, and was only a -minor- success in Japan. Because of its rarity, you'd spend quite a lot more money trying to get a working D-VHS VCR and recorded tapes to watch in it than it is to just buy a Blu-Ray and some discs. It's worth only from a collector's viewpoint.
Oh god... The THX...
I always used VHS, and i still do.
VHS looks bad. Adapt now. Then again, I still use DVDs.
They will never understand how cheap our movies are. No paying for hulu dvr. Great format
Makes sense for hard to find stuff, or if you find tapes in the trash that might contain old commercials /tv programs. Obviously not for "everyday use".
Shiiiit I do too.
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 Just because it looks bad doesn't mean you have to upgrade.
Jurassic Park on VHS. That brings back memories. I watched it on a 27" TV in mono. A buddy of mine had it on laser disc and got to watch it on a swank projection TV with surround sound. Those T-rex stomps made everything in his room shake. "Holy hell! It's like watching it at the theater man!" :P
That was awesome! I’ve actually been getting into VHS quite a bit recently, mainly because I’ve been recording gameplay onto blank ones. I recorded Mario Kart: Double Dash and Super Smash Bros Melee gameplay onto a couple of tapes, and upon playing them back, they looked really good. By no means were they 4K quality, but the only big difference between the playback and the actual games was that the playback had slightly less vibrant colours. One thing that I find remarkable about VHS is that they have great sound quality, when played back on a stereo VCR. I actually kinda want to see the format make a comeback like vinyl, because VHS has its own distinct picture quality, but the chances of that happening are slim. Great video, by the way.
I still own a lot of VHS tapes I've collected between I was young up to now, largely Thomas and Friends VHS tapes as well as various movies. To be honest there's always been a sort of charm to the softer video and more "analog" feel of VHS tapes that just isn't really present in DVDs, Blu-Rays or streaming services
Thomas and Friends...........bland canadian crap with an aging Beatle droning on in the background.
VHS Tapes are amazing. I collect them.
there cheap as frick that's the only reason I like them XD
In my phone looks very nice. As soon it was switched to the big TV via Chromecast I started to cry.
Keeping in mind RUclips's compression and so on, this looks and sounds very nice to me. I still have an old 90's Toshiba CRT set, with Nicam sound. Still have my old Panasonic SVHS video too, and they work really nicely together.A pair of ancient 2 - way speakers from a long - gone Fidelity record player provide the sound. Oh and an equally old Toshiba DVD player, in all the years I've had it, the only thing to go wrong was when the lense needed cleaning.
At first I had a stereo analogue "Ferguson" VCR that was a JVC clone, and a matching CRT TV, when you pressed freeze frame it did exactly that, no noise bars or blurring. The picture head drum had four heads. If a prerecorded tape was stereo, out came the two - channel sound. Built like a tank with a professional transport so I am told by an old serviceman. Cheapo mono units could be pretty dire mind LOL...
Made me so nostalgic still watch vhs tapes to this day and will do for many years. If you grew up with it you will always appreciate it
I've watched VHS tapes laterally my entire life, and I will keep on doing such! There are some gems that have not had a DVD release, so it's best to hold on to them while you can!
It's interesting how advances in film scanning and mastering in general can improve the viewing experience even on VHS.
I'm certain that remastered versions of old movies recorded onto VHS will look even better than the original VHS release.
I don't think Caldor ever made it this far out.
While VHS is no longer in the spotlight technology wise, I wouldn't quite call it dead. New blank VHS tapes are still quite readily available around here, even at Wal-Mart. (Other tape formats, including newer ones like MiniDV and Video/Hi/Digital8 have disappeared.) All the thrift stores around here still carry dozens of movies, VHS Hi-FI is still a great way to record many hours of audio at CD quality (on a good machine in proper working order) and even though it's an analog standard definition recording, I still find time shifting or "record this, right now" to be much more convenient on a VHS machine.
The last two movies I watched (Rain Man and one of the Star Trek series) were on VHS, played from a Toshiba combination DVD/VHS machine (with Hi-Fi audio capability) into a Panasonic 42" Plasma TV. I've got to give that TV credit -- its upscaler did an outstanding job with only a composite input. Even the closed captions came through, though whether that's a testament to the TV's ability to decode a slightly scrambled signal or the VCR doing an above average job is hard to say.
While neither here nor there, I picked that VCR/DVD combo up off the curb. It worked when found. Ten years and dozens of films later, it still works nicely.
+uxwbill Wal-mart and Walgreens here still sell VHS and cassettes as well. Walgreens here has some Hi8 and Digital8 tapes.
I recently bought a 6 pack of miniDV tapes from Sears for $5.97
I recently dusted off my old GE VHS camcorder and got it working again after replacing some worn drive belts. I bought it new in 1994 and thanks to all the time I've spent watching your videos I was inspired to see if I could capture some of the old magic that made this video camera - the first I ever owned - so much fun to use. I found at the time that the quality of VHS could be very good depending on how good the recording and playback equipment were, and upon revisiting some old videos I discovered that they do seem to be better than I gave them credit for over the years. Your work is always very much appreciated!
I love vhs i have a lot of them
same. even tho im buying my favorite movies on a blu-ray format. whatever movies i will come across no matter if its a DVD,Blu-Ray, or especially VHS i just buy it. but VHS is the cheapest alternative which is the best thing about the format :)
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@@Mayala285 exactly
@@Mayala285 honestly with DVD and boy ray there's not much of a difference except bluray being newer so usely having more features
I remember ads for DVDs on VHS tapes. I was never blown away by the quality of DVDs. The main reasons we got one was for extra features, much improved sound, no need to rewind tapes, and TV seasons were a lot less bulky. Example, I remember recording Simpsons episodes on VHS and to fit as many as possible I would record at SLP and use a 6-8hr tape. After a while my stack of tapes was quite high but when the Simpsons DVD box sets started to roll out you would get so much more content on much less shelf space.
I love those DVD promos on VHS tapes. They were so OTT!
DVD was the first time I ever had entire seasons of shows I loved, versus commercial tapes with 2-4 episodes, or home recordings with a smattering of episodes in no particular order (eg my Simpsons homemade tape had 8-10 episodes from the first two or three seasons recorded from BBC2).
I'm 17 in 2 weeks, when I was like 8 or so VHS was still a massive thing over here even though DVD was taking over.
I remember being at my grandmother's house, she had over 200 tapes which I still have no clue where she got them from. Everytime we'd go there we got to choose a movie to watch. They had the typical late 90's black VHS player and a mid 90's CRT (that CRT still works to this day!)
It feels so strange to think back about that. We don't do that no more, we start up our smart TV and select a movie to watch on demand. Not even a DVD or a Blu-Ray, we don't even have a DVD player.
At that time there was Videoland, which is yet another video rental place, which was massive. In our small town we had 2 of them. If one of them didn't have the movie you were looking for they'd call the other one to ask if they had it. I remember DVD massively overtaking VHS, and a few years after the Videoland stores vanished. One got replaced by a bakery and the other one simply vanished. The building is different and I don't even know what's inside there now.
I'm only 16 at the moment, yet I feel like so much has changed and I missed out a lot.
I'd love to live the world of 10 to 15 years ago again, just to experience it one more time. I was so young at that time I don't remember shit. I just know what is now, and now is smartphones and other high-performance handheld devices, online streaming over networks of speeds up to gigabytes a second, and 1080p60fps gaming with photorealistic graphics on rather small high-powered PC's with sophisticated microprocessors, everything digital and picture being displayed super slim displays with insane resolutions.
I've never really witnessed the old things and right now it's too late for that.
Makes me feel sad quite a bit actually.
same here
She wasn't a hoarder, was she? Seems everyone on the Hoarders show has stacks and stacks of VHS tapes...
+deWaardt I don't do streaming because of all the compression and lossy audio. I'm still not sure how the idea of lower quality is getting to be so popular with everyone, but since they were all stupid enough to dump Betamax, I can safely say that I'm not the least bit surprised. Still if you have a crt, vhs will continue to look good on that.
I know this videos old. But something that doesn't get mentioned quite so often is a number of VHS movies also supported an early form of Dolby Surround which later became Pro Logic.
I like watching VHS tapes when I want to feel nostalgic
I just like watching how much of an interesting guy my dad was 25 years ago, and how people acted in front of camera then, since it was recorded by a friend during 3 vacations during the 91-92 years. Very interesting, and shows that video recording was still a big deal, considering that a VHS camera was around $1,000 back then.
Let's hope VHS will make a comeback
Maybe like d-vhs
lisciatoredimele89 most likely
No please! If lots of retards are willing to spend significant amounts of money on what is such a mediocre quality format, we (I mean, we, sensible, not retarded folks) will lose the only reason why it's worth getting VHS tapes: they being dirt cheap or even free (trash found).
ToyStoryNBarneyFan I don't think it will, but it's going to appeal to a niche market. I personally love watching classic 70s, 80s, and 90s blockbusters on VHS, Unedited and still working! It's doesn't really have any hidden superiority in quality, but for me it's just a awesome nostalgia trip, and it's really fun to have friends over and just watch the classics!
I was skeptical going into this one, but as someone who has watched the dvd version of My Cousin Vinny at least once a year between 1998 and 2008 or so, and the laserdisc version once a year from 1995-1998 probably, your capture of the VHS version looks every bit as good as the DVD after its processing.
Sound quality is a mixed story. The stereo sound you achieve is pretty good, but it doesn't quite manage the dynamic range of a well-made all-digital soundtrack on LD or DVD. Still, much better than I had remembered it.
I think that HD VHS (also a video from techmoan ) need to come back because the quality is very nice and sharp
just like bluray
Looks pretty good.
Video tapes are still cool, and many of the old movies are not available on DVD or Blu-ray disc! Thats why i still have a lott of video tapes, and also collect video tapes. Thanks for the information, great quality that you manage to get out of these old VHS tapes!
The audio is the only thing that still impresses me to this day...
What I really hope for is a comeback of CRT displays, as well as the 4:3 aspect ratio (the ideal way for viewing 4:3 content). Out of all things, I miss CRT displays most. They are great for entertainment purposes, and an alternative to the analytical and pixel perfect modern LED displays. PS2 games also look better on a CRT than on a 4K LED TV, is something I've found out the hard way.
Audio cassettes suck in respect to audio quality. But its sound character will be missed. In my experiences, how good a music will sound on an audio cassette depends mostly on the style of music.
the sound is great, but the picture is still very vhs to me
+fuckJuly "VHS Hi-Fi", or FM modulated audio is still really really good. The problem with VHS, even super VHS, is the very poor quantity of color information.
+MarcoZ I know, but - at least for me - this sample isn't any better as I remember VHS
@@jukpulfer plus 2 be fair it is a RUclips video so it is worse than in person
I stopped what I was doing to watch this video the second I got a notification for it on my phone... I love these kinds of videos!
I love all my old formats. My Laserdisc writer is one of my favorites!
I expected it to be noisy as hell... WOW, it's so clean, and sharper than I expected.
A couple years ago all the goodwill stores in my area got sealed copies of Gone with the Wind. It was a two tape pack, not surprising considering the length of the film, and I just had to get it considering it was only a dollar. It's honestly the best version of the film I have ever seen. The film is already in 4:3 aspect ratio and it doesn't do any of the remastering that seems common on rebroadcasts on channels lile turner classic movies as well. Got 3 and gave 2 away to film buff friends and they love them too.
8:12 - The audience is now deaf.
VHS is awesome. Some rare gems to be found on VHS, I always look in charity shops for old VHS tapes. Great captures by the way! VHS for ever!
We had a number of Caldor stores here on Lawn Guyland. One of them I go past every now and again is STILL empty.
I liked your choice of movies. Apollo 13 is one of my favorites.
Mine too! He has a great choice of movies
Great soundtrack too.
I think they will make a come back.
I still have Vhs
Nice, looks as if it's in between VCD and DVD. I always thought VHS players seem more reliable than DVD players, and this video proves it. Hence the DVD drive not working and the VHS still works, lmao.
I went through 3 modern DVD players in roughly 2 years. I said screw it and bought a Wii for 30 bucks and use for Netflix.
DVD can eat it, same with Cable TV.
i have an old asf portable dvd player, its built like a tank! i even has a mantinance door on the bottom for the drive. replacing its dead nimhs with lipos made it work great
@Mr Gonorrhea The cheap ones do
Still better than 240p videos that are out there
Not exactly any kind of feat.
@@BilisNegra lol exactly
@@BilisNegra but I think it's just O.K.
i have apollo 13 on VHS, but mine is a Block Buster Rental.
Cool memories with VHS. DVD and Blu-Ray are better formats. This was a fun video and I am glad you did. I hope you had fun taking the time to make it. I'm sure the editing and what-not was a pain in the ass to do; this one must have taken a few days to be ready for an upload. The THX one was great, I think there was an old Simpson's episode were a guy did that in a theater and his head exploded. That was great. Thanks again for the memories, man.
I still use my 2 vhs recorders to playback and record of the sources and then edit onto the HDD. I even still use audio cassettes to play and have still unopened blanks to record onto from all my sources. Though yes these are analogue, these are giving me great quality in the audio and video resolution. I'm happy that I never let these formats go. I find digital formats OK as a storage medium but it doesn't have the same heir of quality. The same general thing applies to all formats that good equipment and maintenance goes a long way.
Somebody here watches Techmoan... =P
VHS through a FireWire camcorder into a computer? Someone watches Oddity Archive. These VHS transfers bring back some serious memories...
Use your VHS vcr videorecorders and blank VHS tapes to get even with the news media and tell your friends to just use their vcr videorecorders !
I'll tell you one thing I love about VHS. I popped in a tape of Seinfeld episodes I recorded back in the 90s and within 5 seconds, I was watching the tape exactly where I left off 15 years ago. Can't do that with modern videos.
Great video! Most "fullscreen" movies on VHS (and then on DVD) had the openings in their original widescreen format to allow for the opening credits, which often used the full 16x9 aspect ratio and would be difficult if not impossible to include without cutting off names and titles.
Those captures are amazing. No tell-tale interlace or flicker!
VHS can get pretty murky because the quality of playback can vary greatly between machines. I've never had a Sony VCR but from what I remember they jacked up the 'sharpness' like crazy (I say that in quotes because increasing the sharpness adds a bunch of video noise) for a perceived sharper picture via RF on channel 3 or 4. My 4-Head Hi-Fi Sharp VCR plays back tapes with a better contrast range and with a sharper-while-noise-free image than my JVC S-VHS with all the bells and whistles like a TBC with built-in DNR. I guess the JVC machines were popular with the restoration crowd because they played well with other hardware like proc amps, etc.
Better than any other VHS capture I ever seen on RUclips!
Yeah... That's just as bad as I remember
+Subzero Arctics
Exactly what I was about to say.
Yeah, but that's exactly what happens with audio cassettes. Yet, they made a comeback
Subzero Arctics the best reason is they're cheap as fuck, but yeah also the nostalgia
fairly recent playback machine, dnr via capture device, youtube compression on top of everything, how is it supposed to look?
but a decent pal off-air recording will beat all 480p (and below) yt videos....heh...because it has 576 scanlines...and destination format will not be yt h264 (which will destroy a lot of detail along) but mpeg2 at 5mbit, or mjpeg at 10mbit/s.
dnr? yeah, some, but motion compensated, not crude algorithm from camcorder...
dedicated pc capture card means you don't need tbc, because purposes/ways of working of those two overlap.
ivo kostić I enjoy these items today
Yes exactly! It's all a matter of having a good VCR. VHS isn't exactly an HD format, but it's still not nearly as bad as people think it is, and it's because most people in the past 10 or 15 years had cheap junky VCRs. Plus, people would use the EP/SLP recording mode which is very low quality even on a better VCR... plus they'd use the coaxial cable to hook it up, and even on a standard definition TV, the difference in quality between composite and coaxial is just like night and day.
Picture looks very good maybe even the quality of a cheaply encoded DVD - especially for that cheaper VCR. Though you unfortunately can't encode 7.1 audio into a VHS!
VHS does support Dolby Pro Logic surround sound. Most of the tapes I featured here were encoded with it.
+vwestlife Ahh, that is how the Pro Logic on my old (1989) Pioneer VSX-D1S works! Not sure if it will ever really make a comeback though.
D-THEATER VHS TAPES was a digital version of standard VHS instead of having the film stored as pictures on the tape it was stored as 1s and 0s the length of tape was used as data storage. The machines output 1080i & some models came with HDMI, these could basically output 5.1 DOLBY DIGITAL / 7.1 but not lossless audio
Ohh God, thank you for sharing this amazing remember !!!
I like the graininess of VHS, it's nostalgic at this point. I have a select few of my favorite movies on Blu-Ray, everything else is VHS. Of course I only own one HD tv and about 5 CRT's that I use so VHS is always more convient for me than hooking up a bluray player to a CRT.
You made this video on the back of Techmoan's cassette-praising video, but he also made one about VHS, more specifically how a specific VHS format was the (by and large) only storage medium on which HD movies were available before HD-DVD and Blu-Ray were invented. It was called D-Theater, which was a variant of Digital VHS.
One thing I do remember is that I had no 'coasters' with VHS and very few of them got screwed up in the tape mechanism, whereas a large number of my DVD discs that I made myself, went faulty or ended up as coasters right after burning. I use a good quality Pioneer DVD writer and always sought the best blank media, with the best dyes that I could, and yet they still ended up unreadable. However re-writeable blank media has been very reliable. I no longer trust DVD for backups or video, and now just have NAS devices with storage drives, my current one being a Synology DS415+ with 12TB in caddies inside the NAS. I then save to that and stream it around the house.
With 8 hour tapes, you can create AWESOME mixtapes! I use the AG-1960 for most of my recordings, and I have to say, the audio quality sounds fantastic!
It will hold two 1800 foot reel-to-reels with room and sound quality to spare. Now instead of capturing the feeling of a whole era, you can capture TWO eras on a single tape. The Dungeons and Dragons reel tape was 3 hours and 12 inches at 3-3/4 inches per second both directions.
I still love how it slows down at the end of rewind :-)
The sound quality is much better than I remember! However, the video quality is about the same. Don't count CRT's out! They're the only way to make interlacing look good.
I have that exact same VCR and use it still to this day!
Before our vhs vcr we had a Philips video 2000 and I loved that more than the vhs vcr.
I had a JVC S-VHS-C camcorder and same brand S-VHS VCR purchased at the same time. Using standard "premium high grade" tapes gave extremely clear, stable results. In fact, the color space was actually a bit truer than DV. I also remember watching a new release from Blockbuster on a top-of-the-line Sony VCR around 2002. Even without artificial sharpening it looked near DVD quality. We're talking about VCR's costing around $200. The nice thing about digital is even the cheesiest blu-ray player will look fantastic over HDMI.
Nice stuff. Gotta love those VHS openings and previews. I remember NKOTB doing a Coke commercial. Sweet!
Its funny that you posted this. (even though its been a few weeks now) I just got out both of my VCRs to make sure they are both in good working order. I have a 1995 Panasonic PV-4559 VCR my parents bought new and a 2002 Toshiba W-522 that I bought new. They both run exceptionally well. even though the Panasonic Front Panel LCD has gotten really dim.
One thing to remember is that not all Fullscreen releases (What an odd name for 4:3 content, shouldn't 16:9 be that as well when the image has no black bars?!) are Pan & Scan, some are open matte - so you see more than intended instead of less than intended. Dunno aboot US but it seems like the last few years of VHS releases we in Europe got mostly letterboxed releases. Though there's been some letterboxed tapes way back in the 1980's as well.
I don't miss high speed rewind. My Technics cassette deck from 1997 has it and, no surprise, it operates exactly the way your Panasonic VCR's high speed rewind does.
I have both a regular VHS and DVHS deck (both are high end units) so I can try capturing straight from the firewire on my DVHS unit and running the regular one through my Panasonic AG-HVX200 (not sure if it has TBC built in so I might just use my DVHS unit for capture). There is also a unit that is sold where I work which can do VHS over HDMI and it upscales to 1080p so I can just run that through my capture card to get 60p. I dunno, I now have something to spend this summer trying.
It's probably worth mentioning that all of these are immune to macrovision due to some tinkering I have done or due to the units "not acknowledging it" (as Ben from OddityArchive would put it).
This looks amazing for old VHS :D
I really dont miss the analog video time.. DVD was a game changer.. DIVX was a game changer..
Wakko's Wish was on VHS in 1999 in Hi-Fi stereo, & released later on a single disc DVD in a keep case without a slipcover in 2014.
Great job! There is something very comforting about anything coming from an analog source. After all we're analog beings. Not digital ones. Still, with rare exceptions, I'll take high end digital video over this. But a nice walk down memory lane.
Glad you know who techmoan is :)
Definately looks, and even more so, sounds a lot better than i remember
The Star Wars trailers gave away quite a lot. As for VHS, I use it occasionally, but only to dump 'watch once' programmes from my various (full) HDD video recorders.
I remember Caldor!!! I bought some of my Disney VHS tapes when they first came out in the late 80s at Caldor. Still have 'em! ;)
I believe that VHS trilogy was the one I had, still in its shrink-wrap. Well, that is until my brother came home late one night and wandered downstairs to ask "Hey Dave, you got any videos to watch?" Me, quite drowsy and not thinking straight, pointed to my self of videos.
A few minutes late, he comes back down and says "Hey, did you know we don't have a VCR upstairs?" - my room was in the basement, and I had my VCR set up down there. Guess which video he grabbed? You guessed right, the one that lost a WHOLE lot of value when he tore off the shrink-wrap.
My brother turned 40 last year, but he can still be quite dense at times.
I got a HD receiver hooked up to a vcr on scart. when recorded on sp it looks really damn good. especially for a big flat screen tv
I grew up with VHS and never stopped using them to this date. Since my old CRT TV was absurdly power hungry I switched to an old LCD TV recently which I bought for 10euros at a thrift store. Its a Sharp Aquos 4:3 SDTV LCD, still Made in Japan, with superb picture quality. Its perfect for VHS and old school gaming (no upscaling, no input lag).
VHS looks amazing on it.
This capture looks the same quality as Laserdisc!
ruclips.net/video/KOrn2hBsYKE/видео.html Techmoan demonstrates the quality of VHS vs Laserdisc.
We had a vcr just like yours when I was little!
I have the star wars original video tape transferred onto a DVD.. People actually borrow it to watch it even to this day.. Its the real thing baby
Ace Ventura has the dolphin Trainer scene cut out on the dvd and streaming. The vhs has the scene
While not the biggest fan today I do have fond memories of the format. And was still buying as late as 2009. I needed to complete my Bond collection and was not picky, I just wanted the movies. DVD sets were pricey and difficult to find individually. Won't get rid of those copies even though I've replaced both vhs and dvd with other releases. One thing was they were easy to handle as a small child.
I remember Caldor. there used to be one where the Walmart now stands on route 1 passing through Linden. they cut the strip mall right at the radioshack (now also defunct!) and built up a seperate walmart shop after it went kaput.
The up-scaled quality is quite good.