The last record changer ever made - Crosley Stack-O-Matic
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2019
- Record changers fell out of favor in the late 1970s and disappeared entirely by the early 1990s... until Crosley decided to copy an old BSR design and introduce their Stack-O-Matic in 2003. But since it was discontinued in 2010, nobody else has any more record changers.
93Shadow's video about the Stack-O-Matic, showing its similarity to BSR record changer designs: • Crosley Stack-O-Matic:...
While they were in production, reportedly some Stack-O-Matic mechanisms found their way into other brands of vintage-style record players as well, such as Detrola and Steepletone. 
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The Stack-O-Matic is in fact a very late BSR changer design, a C-503, which the Taiwanese OEM that bought the patents from BSR used to manufacture Crosley's Stack-O-Matic. Still trying to investigate who the OEM is.
93シャドウ「Cans Abuser The Meme Magician」 man you know your record changers,,, love your videos
are there that many Taiwanese OEMs other than Hanpin anyway? 😜
Nope i have one newer then 2010 , so sorry guy know it all or maybe you are detective batman wizard? You tell me
It officially stands for "Original Equipment Manufacture"
@Zockblatt Shickleblender the C-218 changer was a belt drive changer.
I was caught off-guard by the wave of nostalgia this video created for me. Nearly all of the record players around me growing up were changers and I was fascinated to watch them work. Thanks for this wonderful video!
Yes love these Record players
What I enjoyed more was watching jukeboxes change and play records. I wish I could afford to buy a restored model.
...my parent's giant Capehart playing their Perry Como and my PF Ummagumma...
@@fmphotooffice5513 capeheart was top drawer quality
I think audiophiles will piss themselves when they see not one but two copies of Dark Side Of The Moon next to that record changer
I was just thinking that :D
This comment appears comical to me.
@VintagePassionMBTK7 You hate a band just because it became associated with some rich idiots? Ok, why not
Louis Gabriel What if I prefer directly cut 78rpm steel backed masters recorded directly from a live acoustic performance?
Hey, It's not like it's a rare album.
What I enjoy about your videos is not the products you go over, but its your passion for them. :-)
UPDATE: I recently won a stack-o-matic from an Ebay auction. I thoroughly enjoy the record player and am proud to have it in my collection of record changers.
Damn, Crosley found a way to make even the BSR cheaper.
Some BSRs were better than others, Quality of tone arm/cartridge depended on whatever "level" of cost the unit it was built into (or if as a separate turntable, what model was bought)
James Slick I’m aware, yet this seems to be cheaper than any of them
James Slick I prefer Magnavox than BSR did, because of the changer with interesting features, the tonearm where it feels the edge of the record, and then the automatic shut off where a tonearm goes back and forth that there’s no records left, and shuts off completely which is a nice looking feature to the Collaro.
@@Musicradio77Network No doubt, Magnaxox made neat changers, Zenith also had cool ones like the variable speed Cobra-Matics too..
@@Musicradio77Network Magnavox re-braded Collaro changers as "Micromatics" until the early 1980s. The native models stayed in production under the Collaro name into 1993.
Many thanks Kevin, for allowing me to relive my childhood memories of the mid-sixties, with my Marconi portable BSR record changer AND it's flip stylus, playing Mantovani and other great orchestras Great video, thanks again.
Great video and a good complement to the Technology Connections video! As someone who has used record changers for a long time, I still really enjoyed watching this. Thanks for covering the Gruve Gard!
Those Living Stereo records are the best!
I have one!
@@ChristopherSobieniak I have a few! - Flea market fluff in the 70's-80's, Mid Century ephemera at it's highest tech! Glad I grabbed them for pennies!
@@jamesslick4790 I bet those were excellent finds!
My dad used to collect these. They were one of the first true audiophile pressings. They also had thicker nicer quality card covers. Almost cardboard thickness!
He must have at least half a dozen of them. Probably more.
@@R33Racer I was trying to remember the one I found at a thrift store once, it's this one!
www.discogs.com/Various-Stereo-Action-Unlimited/release/2946916
Someone posted the whole LP here! This was a treat to listen through the speakers!
ruclips.net/video/w4ehwB1IiWI/видео.html
My parents had the giant furniture one when I was a kid!! Love the memories of it.
So did my parents and theirs even had a 8 track player in it. When that 8track used to click over it used to scare the ish out of me. It was loud as hell. 🤣
Fantastic posting! I listen to my CR-89 stack-o-matic to this day. It sounds great & works perfectly. It was one of the models Crosley manufactured around 2005. So glad I have one.
I have one of these in my kitchen. I love it. I have high end turntables as well, but this puppy gets the most time.
We have 2 of these and have been enjoying listening to them for years. I change out new stylus every few months.
@@jornfox3545 Hopefully you don't get an ear full of shit like I have about using a stacker. "It ruins your records" and "You're destroying your vinyl stupid." are common things said to me in some of the vinyl groups I've been a part of. I have two old Garrard stackers that I'm trying to make one good one out of and then I have this type as well. Thinking the belt's gone bad on this one though because it's only playing records at higher speeds. Need to crack her open and fix her. I did replace the internal speakers with some better ones by Sony that are actually car speakers. Sounds tons better though.
You can’t be a true blue audiophile then. If I wanted convenience I would use streaming not a changer.
I'm not claiming to be an audiophile. I'm claiming to love listening to music on vinyl. You do you. 😉
I love record changers!! Even in 2020 I continue to buy and use them!! My favorite is Magnavox, but I would gladly give the Crosley stack-o-matic a try...if I could fine one!!
I love Micromatic changers!
Yep, the Collaro used by Magnavox is a beautiful machine. There are thousands of them waiting to be restored.
Man I love my monochromatic, I found it at a local thrift store, and eventually tracked down the proper stylus for it at a local record shop.
I bought the "traveler" stack o matic in 2009 to use in my office. It's actually not a bad sounding unit for a Crosley. I think it was built better than those little single players they put out now.
@@wintersbattleofbands1144 and now these are expensive as hell on ebay used!
They need to bring back this design!
My only option for having something like this now is buying a $25 broken vintage general electric automatic portable on ebay and buying it a new needle and lubing the changer.
Thats what I have now and its basically the crosley of it's day it seems. I was born in 93 so the things were made wayyyy before me and I am still figuring out the cronology of these players and I am going to ask kevin about possibly making a video on them soon. I have the gray with red interior one plastic plinth, metal platter guessing (mid-late 60s?) with an F-shaped metal overarm. It works fine on manual. I am looking for one with the square overarm with metal plinth to fix up. I had an olive drab one years ago but the amp was shot so I had to trash it. Mostly all of these appeare to be mostly all mono players, solid state, changers probably made by BSR or VM. Well made, and serviceable compared to most of the trash out now.
@@coolelectronics1759you can buy them serviced, you know.
this is FAR better than what they offer today
The sound of the vinyl dropping really takes me back :)
I INJOY SEIN THE MECHANISM IN MOTION
The thing I hated about 70's BSR turntables were the ones with ceramic cartridges were very hard on styrene 45's. I had a lot of problems trying to set the right stylus weight. Too light and the record would skip, too heavy and it would chew them up. I was very happy to get rid of it.
Most BSR changers from the 1970s were fitted with their SC12M ceramic cartridge, which tracked about 4 - 6 grams. However, it was hard to exactly set the spring counterbalance.
Are styrene 45s the colored ones? I think I have a couple, and I live in Canada?
@@dougbrowning82 They are mostly black I believe. The way to tell styrene is it is thicker and less flexible than regular vinyl.
@@TucsonAnalogWorkshop and the labels are glued on as opposed to pressed in.
I hated the 70's BSR crap, 7" drive and plastic platter for high rumble/hum and IGD, the 60's all metal 9" drive BSR was better on S/N ratio
Those record changers fascinated me as a kid I used to love watching the record go down then the next one drop.
I am from the 40s, never would have imagined records in the XXI Century. Cheers from frozen Patagonia Argentina
Crosley should've kept making these instead of those pitiful suitcase players. (although they may or may not be as bad as some people think.) ps I still use my late 70's Panasonic SL-504 record changer daily and it sounds great.
Thanks for sharing this. I remember my father's record changer though I don't recall the brand. Strange there there have been no new ones introduced.
Was there a bit of Technology Connections inspiration here?
Edit: Ah, I see you've talked about this. My mistake.
I actually recorded parts of this video a year ago, but his video convinced me to finally finish it.
@@vwestlife This makes me wonder what other half-finished vid projects you have simmering on the back burner!
What was the name of the box set you stack up. Was it one of then Reader Digest sets?
I still use my BSR record charger. Its from 1974/75. I use it as my main player. I do have Technic 1200s that i had since my dj days. But sometimes, i like to stack some albums and set back and enjoy.
Various - The World's Greatest Popular Music
Box set: www.discogs.com/Various-The-Worlds-Greatest-Popular-Music/release/3584711
Me too buddy!!! I love my bsr changers... keep them lubed ,, and they will run forever
I'd rather use the 1200
We can always count on you for interesting content....
For some reason With you and Technology Connections posting videos about these things very recently, it actually makes me feel like record changers will make a comeback soon!
banjo playing bison I hope they do...I would love to see some new designs with modern tech applied
I figured you watched the Technology Connections video! The timing was just too good. Glad to see that you enjoy his stuff.
This brings back so many memories. I grew up with tube amp console stereos that had changers in them.
I thoroughly enjoyed this, thank you!
I don't know how it was in the USA, but when I was a kid in Britain, in the 1960s, singles were made with raised edges around the labels, with little teeth to grip the one above and below. All very well if all your singles were from the same company. However, some had teeth that didn't fit others, and some didn't have teeth. Sometimes the record that was playing just slid on the one below, instead of turning. Some narrowed at the edge, and when the stylus landed, it just slid off, despite the absence of anti-skate, so you couldn't play any more records until you went round the record shop and bought a new stylus to replace the one that just got killed.
The worst thing I ever saw an autochanger do, was when I stacked up some shellac 78s, and they all decided to drop at once, and smash!!
But, as they say, nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
P.S. re: the raised edges of old LPs - even if you have your antiskate set well, sometimes due to Isaac Newton and his pesky gravity, the stylus slides into the LP and jumps a few grooves in the process! On a modern manual deck, you have to cue up the stylus as close as you can to the start of the first track with some LPs!
When I was a kid in the 80s it was a snap to go into a "Salvation Army" second-hand store and find a stereo AM/FM 8-track turntable system from _Zenith_ that still played! As a matter of fact, I found one in the mid-1990s and it worked, as far as the record player, the radio, and the cassette deck! I made mix tapes from stacked 45s! I didn't bother with the 8-track. When my brother, 2 years my junior, made a big show of trembling while asking, "What's that?" pointing to the 8-track slot (which he remembered having been born in 1974) I played along and said, *_"That's a typo..."_*
I'm so silly that I just figured I could *_still_* go into a second-hand/thrift store and find one of these kinds of record players.
*I should've held on to that "Zenith" like it was a classic car!*
7:44 I'm sure that missing disc 5 was left in some other record player that was also given away to the thrift store.
That was probably the best disc too! 😂
Love this video!! As you can tell by my profile pic... I absolutely love me some bsr decks.... used them all my life... if ya keep them lubed up,, they will literally last a lifetime... and that Crosley model you have there ,, I also have ,, when I took it apart I was shocked by how well built these crosleys are... imo the best line of products they have ever made.... I just wish they had put these changers on their 1975 model .. lol.. and made it authentic...
This sounds pleasant for something that has a ceramic cartridge as you say. My cheap $40 Victrola suitcase sounded like junk before I replaced the stylus with an $8 diamond cartridge, which was a bit long and made it sound slightly quieter but much better. There are two ways to go with records. You can go for the audiophile component system with mint records or you can go for the quaint old style of listening that these portables offer. Even though I have a decent turntable, I regularly find myself wanting to listen to the suitcase player because it's easy to set up and not overbearing. It also makes me care less about the imperfections of some of my records. It's like the difference between reading a book over candle light vs high tech entertainment.
I have vintage BSR suitcase players, Crosley Cruiser and 3 Travelers as well as LP120, the latter used the most
I remember seeing ads for these but this is the first RUclips video I've seen about them.
I don’t know why crosley stop making these but I wish they would make them again 😢
in fairness that looks a bit better than the usual offering from crosley and has reasonable speakers
That was my thought, too. And it's attractively styled! I know why it was discontinued; they were a fair bit more expensive than the Cruisers. I like this even better than the Collegiate model.
I have a couple of them, and they are by far the nicest built record players Crosley has made imo...
DUDE!!! I have that Sears Clock Cassette 8-Track Radio to the left of your turntable! I've had since I was a kid back somewhere in the 70's and everything still works. It was a treat to see someone else having one. :)
It's like a BSR without the 16RPM and the flip needle. Wonder if that ceramic will last long on a 78RPM disc. They should at least had an inscription on the speed selection to change the cartridge.
Nice Review!
Some late 78 RPM records in the '50s used the same microgrooves as LPs and 45s, in which case it is not necessary to change the needle to a 3 mil one. (Some 7-inch 78 RPM kiddie records continued to be made all the way until at least the late 1960s.)
@@vwestlife Yeah, Late 78's can often be "microgroove" (LP type stylus will work.) - Mostly post 1950. (Some Rock and Roll!). Only 35mm photographic film had a longer existence in the mainstream than the 78 RPM phono format! When I tell people that 78's were STILL made in the 1960's, no one believes me!,LOL! - Note of caution to people getting into pre LP formats: Edison "Diamond discs" seem to be "78s" - They ARE NOT! In addition to being absurdly thick, they are 80 RPM and use an "up and down" waveform (explaining the thickness?),rather than "side to side" like everyone else! (Thomas Edison, being the Steve Jobs of his day,LOL) - Do Not play them on a normal 78 RPM player!!! - You'll get lousy reproduction AND destroyed records!
I have a 78 RPM record that was made in 2011. It's the Record Store Day release of "Good Vibrations" by The Beach Boys.
Diego Alfonso the BSR clones and originals did not use belt
@@RemiDupont By the late 1970s, there were belt driven versions of the basic BSR models sold by Radio Shack; some even had umbrella spindles. They were dressed up to look more like manuals, with S-shaped tone arms.
Great video love them old record changer.
These changers were great for multi-record sets. Back in the day, those sets (and even some modern multi-record albums; "Wings Across America" comes to mind) were made with this in mind. Take the "Wings Across America", which I mentioned already. Record one was sides 1/6; two was 2/5; and three was 3/4. This way; when you played through one side of all of the records, you'd just flip the whole stack, and it would be in proper album order.
The thing that I'm catching is if you added many more records than what you already have now, it doesn't look like the needle would be able to handle more than one more because the needle would drag across the record in return mode, possibly bending the cantilever to the point of no return. The other thing to be mindful of is the tracking azimuth and zenith will be off as well. The record changer sounds pretty good. Thank you for sharing.
Your channel is so therapeutic!
10:16 - "This is perfect kinda music for having at your mid-century dinner party playing in the background," then hits the Auto switch and the special shroom soup kicks in.
I have happy memories of being taught how to use my family's record player (back in 1969 as a 3 year old !)
And less happy memories of constantly being 'told off' for leaving the control arm up and letting the record repeat endlessly !
My first turntable was a Garrard 40B which was was identical in features and operation, but was a rim drive unit.
Most changers were rim or idler drive units. They were better able to provide the torque required to drive the changer mechanism. In the 1970's, Japanese manufacturer CEC produced some changers with a hybrid drive, belt drive for playing records, and idler drive for changing them.
Hey VWestlife, thank you for sharing your review, just got a hold of a 2005 model. I wanted ask if there was any chance to upgrade the cartridge with a Banpa with the lever stylus. Please let me know if you’ve had a chance to make this upgrade. Work.
9:30 when you were demonstrating the mechanism I kept saying “hey! I was listening to that!” Thanks to you and techmoan I’ve found it’s enjoyable to listen to this music! I’m 42 and strangely enough realized I’m the demographic for this music! Maybe I was born in the wrong time? Furthermore, as far as audiophiles go, my Sony LX300 turntables has been just fine for me! It’s been hooked to my surround sound and is magnificent for me! I usually tell people to go with what suits them best
my Realistic LAB 2250 linear tracker is built as cheap as LP60, all plastic plinth, now use LP120 to play all records and 78's
I used to own a Magnavox record changer that operated differently. The tone arm would rise and swing over to bump the edge of the loaded record, to feel the size before dropping. After finishing playing the record, the tone arm would rise and return back to it's cradle but before shutting off it would do a final sweep to see if there were additional records to drop. If not it would then return to it's cradle and then shut itself off.
Yes, that was part of the automatic size detection of the Collaro record changers that Magnavox used.
Those were the absolute best record changers ever purchased by ordinary consumers.
Some may find it strange that in spite of how they operate, the Collaro/Magnavox design
is mechanically quite simple, having one large cam gear and only a few other moving parts.
I reconditioned one several months ago, along with repairing the electronics in the same console.
The Collare also had separate drive trains for the turntable and changer mechanism. And the operating controls were placed on a tower, so you didn't have to reach down past the stack of records to operate it.
@@dougbrowning82 That was true of most, but some had low-proflle controls,
and later models drove the mechanism from the platter.
The worst design change was fixed size-stops rather than the original slip-clutch arrangement.
We had a record changer when I was younger and I remember doing all these things with it. I did find that if you added too many records to the stack the playing record would slip. Also, great dun was putting on an LP and then switching the speed up to 78, probably ruined a few LPs doing that. I think it was made by Grunding and the stylus had a lever on it which would flip it over to play 78 records.
I just scored one of these this weekend and set it up in our kitchen area for listening while cooking/eating. It's pretty great. I do have issues with the newer reissues on heavier vinyl though. I know you said the spindle is replaceable. Should I be looking to buy a single record spindle for it or work with the existing spindle to play individually? Advice?
Great record player. Amazing the technology they used on record players.
I remember such a thing at Southpoint Mall in 2k. Record changers (Minus being portable like this 1 here) were the norm in my childhood in the 70's & started to wane in the coming mid-80's, loved being able to play records on repeat with the change arm up.
Ahhhhhhh, they just don't make'em like that...anymore.
I was thinking about the raised edge and label while watching the Technology Connections video, Glad you brought it up here! (I didn't know that that was a "system" design with a brand name!). Also the concept of keeping the holding arm up to repeat a record: I had "Bicycle Race" ("Queen",1978) as a single and used this technique to play that tune about 5 times in a row the day I bought it (I did, and still do love that track!), My Mother offered to shoot me and/or the record player if I kept playing "That damned bicycle song"..,, LOL! OTOH, Today, I work at a restaurant and naturally they play contemporary music (real recordings, "big hits" of today.). As much as I would have been against it in the 60's,70's or EVEN 80's... I WISH they would play "Muzak" type "elevator music", as I can't STAND the Pseudo Hip-Hop, Autotuned crapola that's out now!
How did you get your RETRO GROOVES VOL.3 - VINYL RECORD
? I loved the start of that but cant find any. And the website says sold out. Cant even find it on ebay
I got it through The 8-Bit Guy's web site, but it currently says the record is out of stock.
I miss these
How do you calibrate the speed on this type of turntable?
There are speed adjustment trimmers in the motor.
Hi, do you know someone in central NJ that could service my early 80's bsr? needs new cartridge & stylus, probably can use the tonearm adjusted. Im in the somerset area.
What brand is that cassette/8 track player on the left of your table? Does it also record on the tapes, or is it just a player? Wonder if that unit I asked about is somewhere out thiere? I saw that unit on another video somewhere. Anyone know?
It is an IMA Craig PS 2500. Its cassette deck can record but its 8-track is playback only.
I have the British version of this, it has a radio & takes a usb stick.
Bought it around 2011 for playing 45s on.
When playing a single record you can just pull the arm down to "play" without having to manually put the needle on the record,either by putting 1 record on the spindle or as you did and put the record directly onto the turntable and keep the record arm back .
A lot of people knock these record players but it does sound better than the Bush record player from 1972 which I had from new
About idiots thinking the dropping of the records can magically damage them. Besides the tops of the groves not having any music on them, plus some records having a higher edge and center section, finally you aren't dropping the records in a vacuum. The presence of air means the fall creates a bit of a "ground effect" cushioning by pushing the air down along with the record. This air cushion helps gently lower the falling record onto the lower one.
That looks nice :)
This looks and sounds like a good record player. Im considering getting an all in one player with speakers for when i get my own place. I already have a new sealed in box Audiotechnica LP120. Very good review.
Consider the MPK (Music Public Kingdom) TT270 record player. It looks promising and I will be reviewing it soon.
Great video
What is the tracking force of the stylus if you stack it with 5 or 6 records?
Good question, I was wondering that too. I was also wondering if the speed slows down appreciably when the 5th or 6th record is playing. Probably wasn't much of an issue with the old idler drives and their big beefy motors, but I could imagine it being problematic with a wimpy Chinese belt drive motor.
It doesn't change.
David O'Banion since it uses a spring to set the tracking force, it would change slightly.
Get a proper 78 needle for that thing on ebay and you've made yourself a great playbackdevice for your 78 albums. Technology Connections got me here.
good video! question: any suggestions on how to repair a retractable arm on a CR89 which will not drop or lift automatically anymore? you can message me if you don't have a video. Thanks!
Look up videos on how to repair BSR record changers, since the Stack-O-Matic is based on a BSR design.
What is that 10 record set from the 60s I would love to buy it
Little late but I found it by stopping the video and searching.
The World's Greatest Popular Music
There’s one interesting fact that at 11:25, RCA did put out Groove/Guard (or Gruve/Gard) to protect their records from scratching and scruffs. That was in 1954 and continued right up until 1969. Prior to Gruve/Gard, RCA Victor started putting out LP records in 1950, just two years after Columbia introduced the LP format in 1948. Both Columbia and RCA started a war for LP records. And during the Gruve/Gard process, RCA introduced the Dynagroove records in 1962 where they try to make the record sound better than the usual one. That lasted a couple of years until 1969. By 1970, RCA started the Dynaflex process to make the records thin and wobbly where it continued right up until 1976.
The record you see here is “Music For Reading” from 1958, but the label is a reissue from about 1965-68 due to its label design.
BTW, nice changer!
Great video great memories
Does this have a built in preamp? Having upgraded a Centrex by Pioneer all in one unit, I know a Dual will fit in the same hole as a BSR. That could make for a sweet self contained record player.
On one hand... I wanted to hear what that thing sounded like... on the second hand... I was worried about what was going to happen to Anders's record... I still want a copy of one of his records... I gotta remember to try to get one...
Thank you so much for the great intro video. I recently saw someone is selling a Panasonic SL-790 changer turntable. I couldn't find any information anywhere about it. Do you happen to know anything? Thank you!
I wanna watch some video about the early Crosley because this is so interesting.
i have a old record changer that has two motors so one controls the tone arm and one controls the platter and it does not lose pitch when it changes records
Technology connections also said that record changers are easy to find. Not in my experience. I had to go halfway across the country to find one. But in the end, I got a good deal on an early 50s RCA record changer. Only catch is that it was a rare model, making it’s documentation hard to find. I had to repair it based on a 60s voice of music repair video because it happened to have the same changer mechanism.
The Best record changer ever made was probably the Technics SL-1950. It was essentially the 1900 turntable but allowed the optional use of a multi-stack spindle and it obviously needed a very tall dust cover to accommodate it.
Weird, yesterday Technology Connections comes out with a video on record changers, and today VWestlife comes out with a video on record changers.
Are you guys coordinating with each other?
I noticed this too... I would jump on this trend as well, but I let go of my mother's old Electrophonic with Garrard changer years ago! The T.C. vid is mentioned at 4:02
It's cool to see them showing some love for the old classic record changer.
Didnt Technology Connections also use the same record in demonstration?..
@@19seventy97 He did. I liked that detail!
I wonder if they do co-ordinate their videos or it’s just a coincidence
what is the first album collection called ?
Surprisingly, I actually still have, and use, that old Realistic 8-track player! A lot of great music never made it to cassettes and much of it would be lost forever were it not for a few tapes that somehow still survive in thrift stores and garage sales. I also have two TEAC reel-to-reel recorders that get a lot of use. Like the 8-tracks, a lot of really good music (not the hip slop and rap crap they try to pawn off today as "music") never made it past their original format on reel to reel tape so these machines are priceless now. The one thing I never liked about the crash-o-matics was the fact that if people didn't know to maintain their records you'd get all of the dirt and dust from one record deposited onto the record below as it fell and over time that got pressed into the grooves of those records. RCA's invention of the raised edge records helped save a lot of good music from that era.
Since the tonearm is "weighted" by a spring, does the tracking force increase proportionally as the record stack, and thus the tonearm, rises in height?
Actually it works the other way -- the tonearm is counterbalanced with a spring. As you increase the spring tension, it makes the tracking force lighter. Ideally the tracking force should be set with three records on the platter, so that it averages out across the one to six records it is designed to stack and play.
@@vwestlife Ahh, so it does vary with height, though. Have you measured the tracking force at both the #1 and #6 positions? I'm curious how much of a variance there is and if this is also a reason for audiophiles to be appalled at out ghastly contraptions. (I don't have access to any of mine ATM and I don't have one of those scale thingies.)
I'm glad it used a crystal diamond. I hate those non-crystaline diamonds.
I prefer the re-fried diamonds in a can, cooked just enough to be chewy, with a bit of crunch.
@@pcno2832 I can only get those in the import shops.
As opposed to a Double Diamond, which would be liquid :-)
How did the records sound when played with a Neil diamond stylus, though?
Does the tracking force change significantly as the angle of the tone arm relative to the plinth increases as the stack of records grows taller?
Yes, it does a little bit, because of the spring-counterbalanced tonearm.
Absolutely wish they would make them again Technics did some great models in 80 s but we never got them in the UK even the Crosleys were hard to get here except recent suitcase types. Back in them days were made to last with lots of metal parts
Thanks to this video I had to get a Stack-O-Matic. I have the Model CR89, which closely resembles one of the Dansette suitcase models. I'd really like a Dansette with a Garrard changer, but they are expensive, shipping from England is expensive, and then you have to convert it from 220V-50Hz to 110-120v-60Hz, which adds even more expense. Crosley does sell a Dansette clone, but it's no fun without a changer.
Wow I remember my mom having one like this one. But it I believe was like what they had at schools. Like a auidotronics I think she had and they did I think a good job on this good video never clicked so fast lmao. However I have one complaint they did . My bsr. Changer has screws that hold the cart to the tone arm. Which would allow for changing the cartridge and make it user friendly.
I have a BSR with a slide-out cartridge holder. It's one of the upgraded versions of the basic chassis, so it also has a synchronous motor and a zero-balanced arm and a dial for the tracking force. The next model up also had a die-cast platter, and those went for a little over $100. After that, the BSR 800 series had a totally different architecture, but the changer mechanism was over-complicated and less reliable than their cheaper models.
I have a big Sears record changer.
It has problems. Only plays about half a side and then restarts.
It might be worth modifying one to have phono outputs, it would be nice to have it on a full size sound system. Record changers are still my favorite way to play 45s and 78s, no constantly having to jump up to change the music after each song.
Hey Kevin I got this vintage portable general electric automatic mono player on ebay that I fixed up and it isn't the first one. I have worked on two of these players over the years both being almost identical aside from slight cosmetic changes to the overarm and use of more plastic vs metal parts on one of the players. I was wondering if you had any of these players and if you could do a video documenting these, the cronology and revisions of these models and possibly put together some kind of guide for serviceing for those interested in buying and restoring a vintage portable changer like this. I was born in 1993 so these 60s-70s players go way back before me even being born so I am still figuring them out and could use some resources and information that could help me work on these players. The players are normally all plastic outside, some have metal plinths, while others have a plastic one with a metal platter, looks like all of these had metal overarms some F-shape, others rectangular guessing all had plastic tonearms. From my experience the needles are fairly easy to find for the players online, both the olive drab one with the metal plinth and rectangular overarm, and the gray with red interior plastic plinth, metall platter with (F)shaped overarm one had mostly the same issues which I was able to fix for the most part. Change the grease, recondition the idler, and change the needle.
The issues I tend to have with these from time to time is the needle skipping at a spot in a record for some reason and the automatic functions not being 100% right.
As these are generally found cheap I figure they would be good repair learning tools
I know this is an older video but does anyone know if the cr84 can play different size vinyls when they're stacked any info at all would be awesome
Typically 12" are 33-1/3, 10" are 78, 7" are 45. The basic changers like BSR did not auto detect the record size so you should not mix sizes or they will play at the wrong speed and the tone arm will drop in the wrong place. The British made Collaro changer used by Magnavox, used the tone arm to determine the size of a record so it would correctly drop to the start of a 7", 10", or 12" record, but you had to manually change the speed. Most of the basic changers have one switch to select the record size and another for the speed, which means it is quite easy to play a record at the wrong speed.
@@rizzlerazzleuno4733 thanks for the info that was very helpful I appreciate you taking the time to write back :)
My aunt has a reel-to-reel similar to yours that I helped her to fix. It's an Akai, I think. It rewinds tapes so fast, it's scary!
Gabe's YT It has to. You can't change or flip tapes safely without winding onto one reel. But then the open mechanism makes it safe to do so, as the tape isn't entangled in a tight mechanism like in cassettes. Of cause the really fast winding is reserved for the vacuum buffered computer tape decks that look cool in movies.
is there a way to calibrate the tone arm tracking force for this?
Keep watching -- your question is answered in the video!
@@vwestlife i have the crosley classic record player from the Vermont Country store. However it’s a plastic arm and seems flimsy. is there any way i can replace this tone arm?
WOW it sounds great
I have the same unit, but it is playing to fast how do I slow it down? I guess I have to open it please help.
There are speed trimmers on the motor. Look up how to adjust the speed of a Crosley or AT-LP60, the basic procedure is the same.
Mr.VWestlife I think it'll be a interesting video if you talk about your reel to reel that you showed in this video
I think he has a video about a reel to reel I think that's the one unless I'm wrong. And it's a 4 track machine I believe when he did a video on it the tape he had was mono and it ended up playing both sides of tape. I believe that is correct
It's an Akai 4000ds
I saw a new copy of DSOTM on the side and really wondered if you were gonna play it on there
Slugbug must really appreciate you advertising his music for free.
Like the very first to do so in 1927. (the Orthophonic Victrola 10-50), "Changes its own records!"
Hey VWestlife. I really like that record changer you have there. :) How much does a Crosley Stack-O-Matic go for on ebay? :)
Usually between $50 and $150, depending on the model and condition.
How did you adjust the speed?
Love these good crosley record players