This makes me relive childhood memories. When I was a kid my father bought a game called “Super EF2000”. To me it looked and felt like real life. Oh, man.. Feels like ages ago
Ahh EF2000 was a classic Davide! As John points out, the dynamic campaign was excellent and still puts many sims (including DCS) to shame haha. I'm glad the video brought back some nice memories : ) Cheers!
Spent 20+ years working at Warton. Bought and flown as soon as released. Its great fun. Now what we need is the English Electric Lightning to really make thunder over the Fylde.
Ah very nice Steve! The addon is indeed good fun - I'm glad you're enjoying it. A Lightning would certainly be high on my list also! Both Just Flight and Aerosoft produced versions of the aircraft previously, hopefully we'll see at least one of them bring their product into MSFS. Cheers and happy flying! : )
I have to say... Right off the bat here.. ITB... IS The #1 Go-To Channel (for myself) for ALL of these Reviews, Pre, or indeed post releases for each and every model. I am saying a HUGE Thank you, for the most fair, balanced, and realistic outlook on all of the products here, Very well done. I look forward with more productions from yourself :D *Liked and subbed! NB* Edited because i felt like it :P
Thanks very much indeed for the kind words Robin Hood, it's thoroughly appreciated! (and an honour to receive such praise from one of my childhood favourites also haha ; ) I'm really glad you're enjoying the content and finding it to be of use - my absolute pleasure! Thanks very much for the subscription and welcome aboard : )
I bought the old eurofighter when it came out and as a cadet I love it, recently a cadet mate told me there’s a new eurofighter coming out so I rushed straight to RUclips and lead me to this video, and I cannot wait for it to come out next week, we have all planned to buy this and go around the flying in formation. Thank you again for this video and I am thankful for the overview ❤
Ah well I do hope you enjoy the addon when you pick it up then Littlep0d - a group flight sounds like a great way to have some fun with it! My pleasure on the video, I'm glad you enjoyed it! From one (former) cadet to another, happy flying : )
This has to be the add on I'm looking forward to the most out of your recent reviews. I just love the Typhoon. Just such a good looking plane. Also congratulations on the 25k subs! You grew quite a lot over the last year.
Ah well I hope you enjoyed it then Dream! I was actually never much of a fan of the Typhoon previously, but recording this video and spending quite a bit of time with the addon, has really made me grow to love the real thing haha. Thanks very much man! Yeah, a pretty successful year all in all I think. You are in the fact the first and only person to notice hehe. Drop me a PM over on Discord when you get the chance ; ) Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Definitely enjoyed it! How dare you not like the Typhoon! :p I started liking it when I played Ace Combat over a decade ago. The was an ace squadron in The Belkan War who where flying Typhoons. Rot Squadron - and man they had some sexy liveries. Sure I'll send you a DM in a second. ;)
Worked in the Wind Tunnel Dept at Warton when the aerodynamicists were try to decide on single fin/twin fin, mainplane planform and how big and exactly where the canards should be. Heady days indeed!
Very cool Tom! I suppose (these days at least), one might only get to see these sorts of projects once in a career. It must be quite satisfying to see an aircraft flying, that you played your own part in helping get airborne : ) Thanks for sharing and all the best to you!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Also spent time on theTornado project improving the thrust-reverser buckets, we borrowed a wind tunnel at RAE Bedford for that. In April the model was icing-up and when we returned in the August the tunnel temperature was hitting 33C. Before I left BAe at the end of 2000 I was given a guided tour of one of the development Typhoons, great stuff!
ITB has called it again 👍 My thoughts on this one are related to in which generation one sits. What I mean is, if you are of a certain age you are perhaps going to be more interested in the upcoming Harrier and Tornado. Both of which I’ll be buying. This one doesn’t ultimately appeal, largely because I still have memories of Tornados running the valleys up around Ammanford and the Lliw reservoirs when I was a kid, and my grandfather arranging for me to sit in a Harrier 😎 As for other mods, I appreciate the effort here but I am the wrong demographic.
I guess I fall more into the Tornado / Harrier generation also Mark (very much looking forward to both, although even more excited to see we'll have them both in DCS). The IFE Tornado will hopefully be a stunner, Just Flight's should be excellent on the systems front (when that eventually arrives). Now, who's working on a Jaguar. . . I've never been a big Typhoon fan, but I did warm to the aircraft having spent some time with it for this video ; ) Cheers!
The custom sound is made by Acoustic Sim for all DC jets. Problem is they are busy and you sometimes have to wait for a little while (+ it costs the dev around 2000 euros). They've been on queue for a while and they asked their community on Discord if people wanted to wait for custom sound or if the F18 would be ok for a while. People said they wanted the jet now, which is why it's been released with the F-18 sound package.
Well, that's certainly interesting to know Mad, thanks for the info! I guess this sort of thing often comes down to user preference: CJ Simulations aren't the first dev to ask their community, whether or not they would like a product releasing before XYZ is complete and of course the community is excited to get their hands on the addon, so they say "yes". If it were me, I'd rather wait and get the finished thing but again, we're all different. As I mentioned in the video, the F-18 sounds aren't half bad. . .but hopefully the Acoustic Sim sounds will be better still : ) All the best!
LOL? Right @3:10 Notice the Shadows of that bird (Crow)? That passed over the aircrafts frame.. I heard NO sound associated with said bird.. Must be a stealth crow xD
Thanks very much James, I'm really glad you enjoyed the review / found it useful! My pleasure on the video! I do hope you're having fun with the Typhoon. Happy flying and all the best : )
I love it... finally a believable Eurofighter for MSFS. Mine seems to have inverted canard animations though. Surely they will patch those to be correct.
I'm glad you're enjoying the addon AyKay! I'm not too sure on the Canards; it seems there is a lot more going on with the Typhoons Canards than meets the eye (just doing a little bit of reading, the canards serve multiple functions, including introducing further instability as the jet manoeuvres), so it would be tricky to say whether they are in fact working in the correct sense or not. I don't have the addon installed currently, so can't take a look I'm afraid, but no doubt if the animation is incorrect, DC Designs will take a look and address it. Sorry I can't be of more help on that one. Happy flying! : )
I'd love a nice Typhoon for the sim, but I'm in 2 minds about this one knowing that IndiaFoxtEcho are nearing completion of theirs. It might explain why this was rushed out minus the sounds and various glitches. I'm not a fan of DC after buying the F15 Eagle so their involvement doesn't thrill me. If it was £15 I'd probably grab it right away and start snapping epic screenshots.
Hello, maybe you know if somebody else is working on a F22 Raptor? We now have the Bredoked trash and the top mach F22. Top mach looks very good. But is someone else working on a raptor too?
Hello Michael, I don't believe that anybody else is currently working on a Raptor. IRIS Simulations were, but they dropped theirs, once the Top Mach version released. The Top Mach F-22 is pretty nice overall; some flight model peculiarities and it isn't study level, but then I guess it never could be : ) I hope that helps. Cheers and all the best!
Well certainly there's no harm in waiting on IFE's Typhoon and seeing how the two products compare Axeman. Going off the historic efforts of both companies, the IFE Eurofighter will almost certainly be prettier and have more systems depth, but the CJ Simulations version might nip it on the sounds / flight model. I would expect the two products will retail for about the same price. For epic screenshots, the IFE Typhoon will probably be the winner haha : ) Cheers!
IFE Typhoon won't be out before a little while. The F15 was the first DC jet and they progressed a lot since then. Honestly their Typhoon is good and it keeps improving after each update. The next one will add the CFD Simulation (Computational Fluid Dynamics) which will improve even more the flight model. The avionics is also looking good, considering most payware are just using the regular MSFS Garmin, it's a fantastic effort there. DC/CJ have to improve the texture quality of their products, but when it comes to the avionics and flight model, I feel like they are better than most devs out there for MSFS
I think that’s pretty fair Mad. DC Designs get a lot of criticism about all aspects of their products, but I think the systems / flight models tend to decent (given what the dev is aiming for); people look at the product, see its a bit rough visually and then trash the rest also. I’ve generally preferred the way DC Designs products fly vs India Foxt Echo aircraft (not that it’s a competition), but you don’t hear IFE getting much criticism, essentially because they make visually beautiful addons. I gather DC Designs is taking on a new graphical engineer, so hopefully that will help : ) Cheers!
Well, it certainly works better MrS. The CJ Simulations Typhoon is by no means a "study level" recreation of the aircraft, but it certainly trounces the Bredok3D version in most respects. India Foxt Echo are also working on a Typhoon, so it will be interesting to see how the two compare. My pleasure on the video! Cheers : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations 'trounce'..... I've not heard that in ages. Cheers! Oh, one more question: are there prefered controller settings. Mine seem to be abrupt and sensitive and I'd like to stiffen them up.
Brilliant review as always from ITB. Will wait and see what the custom sound set is like before purchasing it but it’s looking promising. Looking forward to your next one 👍🏻
Thanks very much James, very kind of you to say and I'm glad you enjoyed it! Yes, probably not a bad idea, waiting and seeing how things pan out. The soundset could go either way in theory, though of course hopefully it will be an improvement on what is being used currently. All the best! : )
Hi Abbie, The custom soundset has indeed been released and it’s actually very nice overall: ruclips.net/video/emhaL0BYsjk/видео.html I hope that helps. All the best : )
Yes, the Typhoon now sounds really good from what I have seen / heard! I may revisit the aircraft at some point in the future, but I’m kind of holding out for some graphical updates before I do so. Cheers EW! : )
Hi Mick, Thanks very much, I'm really glad you enjoyed it! Apologies for the slow reply, I'm just catching up on comments now. There are a couple of Mach Loop flight plans available over on Flightsim.to: flightsim.to/discover/mach%20loop Hopefully one of those should do the trick, but if you have any further problems, let me know : ) Happy flying and all the best!
I love Valley as thats where I spent alot of time but I mever did the Mach loop while there which is why I always head to LFA17, its just as scenic and I know the area well
Ah well lucky you Chris! I had assumed that the Mach Loop might be some sort of "rite of passage" when stationed at Valley haha, but I've no doubt the Lake District is every bit as beautiful / enjoyable (I've walked it, sadly not flown it ha)! Funnily enough, I nearly went with the Lake District for this video - just to do something a little different, next time perhaps. . . Cheers and all the best! : )
This will be fine to hold someone over until the much higher quality India Fox Techo Typhoon releases. In general the texture quality on DC Designs products are much lower than you would expect the pricing to reflect
@@missnell2 Nevertheless, at least this mid range one *Untill IFE bring his one out, is Certainly way better than the Typho on that is currently available, right?
@@missnell2 Not at all (with expecting more out of *any developer*... I understand **Totally*** limits of the sim, as i also do any limits of developers too) , Read my very reply to ITB on this. But i do agree with you here by being half assed. ***At Least*** Cj or DC never forwarded their product as Full fidelity. They have **Always** stated that they are never going to market to the **Study** level stuff, right> nor could they ever do that. **Regards** Also, MSFS2020 can Never have the ability that combat flight sims (which are dedidated) can have (**YET**), so, take your choice. It's a Two sided coin with flightsimulators, and it always has been. Please do not forget, we are just about 2 years now into a brand new simulator.. Give the devs time also :)
Yes, I'm looking forward to the Harrier as Piloto! Given that the AV-8B is one of the few jets I flew quite a bit in DCS though, I think the DC Designs version might have a tricky time stacking up haha. Nevertheless, I'm keen to see what the product has to offer : ) Cheers!
Very useful video. I will wait that they fix the issues highlighted in your video. I am very happy with the F-22A, by Top Mach Studios, so I definitely wait. 🥂🥂
Thank you very much Raymond, I'm glad you found the video to be of use! Waiting is perhaps not a bad idea, if you are happy to do so - for sure there are still some areas of the product that could use some work. Happy flying with the F-22! All the best : )
I think you have to walk a fine line between critiquing the efforts of a developer and offering an unbiased analysis of the value of a MSFS addon. I think you do a very good job of this. Unfortunately, for the viewer who is trying to make up his mind on whether the product is worth buying it's a different story.
Thanks very much Bill. I try to keep things simple; I showcase the product as best I can and attempt to give facts over opinions, that way the viewer can decide for themselves, whether or not the product is for them : ) Cheers and all the best!
Haha! Microsoft logic. . . XD I can understand not wanting missiles, bombs etc (to keep the sim's age rating), but getting rid of gun barrels, cannon fairings etc, just seems a touch too far (especially on historical aircraft). Cheers Tickle, all the best! : )
Going through the loop at 600 knots will have that effect on elevator authority 😆 otherwise excellent review (loop is usually flown between 420-460 knots with 4G turns)
Haha, well for sure I would expect a lower turn rate / less elevator authority at those sorts of speeds, but my comments were as compared with other fast jets that I’ve tried in DCS etc (ie I still think the Typhoon had an issue, at least at the time of release). Also, perhaps I’m being dense, but if the Typhoon’s flight envelope protections allow a certain amount of g to be commanded, the aircraft should presumably be able to pull that amount of g at any speed (which if I recall correctly, is not what I was seeing here)? None of the above is to say you’re wrong, just to clarify my logic at the time. I’m glad you enjoyed the review otherwise though. Cheers and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I have issues with elevator authority above around 460 knots on most aircraft, I’m probably going to pick up the Typhoon tonight thanks to this review 🤙🏻 will see for myself and very possibly make a right dick of myself realising it has no elevator authority 🤣
Haha, I’d be interested to hear what you think; although I believe the aircraft has just been updated again (with a nice new soundset as well), so there may no longer be any issue (if there ever was one). Happy flying! : )
I saw that Clueless. With the new sound pack, the Typhoon sounds great now! I haven’t had a chance to try the newest version of the aircraft myself, but I’d be interested to see how it flies after the update. I may revisit the addon at some point, but I’m holding off to see whether the product gets any visual updates also. Cheers, all the best! : )
Hi! Which one of the current models, regardless of real world capabilities, do you think is the most agile? In terms of turning radius, acceleration, breaking, which model would do best in a make believe dogfight? Again, does not matter if the model is accurate in terms of real life capabilities etc, I am just looking for the model that would easiest get on your opponents six. Su--57? F-16? Typhoon? Any other? Thanks!
Hi Kristian, Hmm, that’s a tricky one for me to answer, since I haven’t flown all of the available jets within the sim. Off the top of my head, I’d say you’re better off going for something like a Deimos, or Bredok3D product, since they have more simplistic flight models and therefore often tend to over-perform. I seem to recall that the Felon was more manoeuvrable than the F-22, when I put them head-to-head. The Bredok3D Typhoon used to be highly overpowered / manoeuvrable, but it’s a long time since I’ve flown it, so I’m not sure whether that’s still the case. The Bredok3D Typhoon would probably be my best guess, but it is just a guess at the end of the day. . . Sorry I can’t be a bit more helpful on that one. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you for your answer, much appreciated! I already own the CJ Typhoon, DC F14, Indias F35 etc, and love them, BUT, a friend and I have this stupid bet going on, where theres no rules and zero room for immersion. Dont ask me why... So far Ive figured out that you can do some pretty intense stuff in the Su-57 if you play with the flaps correctly, 20+G' turns. So think you were pretty much spot on there, hehe. Thanks again!
Hi Tommy, I do keep meaning to take a look at the M346 haha. Depending on a few other commitments (I'm pretty busy at the moment), I *may* get a chance to look at it in the coming days - no promises though I'm afraid ; ) Thanks for asking though! Cheers and all the best : )
I have the opposite problem. When I pull back on the stick at 600 knots the jet goes into a 15 degree aoa turn pulling 15gs, then keeps turning for a while even when I've stopped pulling. Is there a fix for this?
I did see that behavior on one occasion Joshua (the high g turn actually took me up to around 250,000ft, most bizarre haha). I tried to replicate the same thing for the video, but was unable to do so. I don't know what causes the behavior I'm afraid, but it's strange if you're seeing that all the time. Perhaps it's a load / CofG issue, could be controller related, it could also be related to assists etc I suppose, but I wouldn't be able to tell you exactly how to fix it unfortunately. Perhaps worth reaching out to Just Flight / the devs? Sorry I can't be of more help on that one. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I did actually end up reaching out to the Devs, and if you start cold and dark in parking there's no problem of that, however if you start already lined up on the runway you get the crazy high GS. They said they're working on a fix for it and it shouldn't be too long.
@@joshuahickey9037 It's been fixed yeah. The G limiter wasn't working as intended if you would start from the Runaway. They fixed it so now you should be fine
Possibly F Geroge, although that's not how it came across at the time. I've never flown a fast jet in the real world, so I can only go off experiences I've had in other sims; certainly, how the Typhoon behaved here at high speeds, is not something I've seen with any DCS addons etc. Given the Typhoons reputation for its superb manoeuvrability, I'd be surprised if the flight model is accurate in this regard. I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )
Well hopefully you don't have to wait too long then Stephen (I'm afraid I'm not sure how long the wait might be - presumably once the addon is available on the Marketplace, it will also be made available on the console)! Cheers, all the best : )
Does anyone know why the aircraft wobbles at high speeds? Is there a setting in the craft to prevent it from doing that? I notice it around Mach 2.2 at 50k-60 feet.
Hi Robie, I don’t have an exact answer for you, but MSFS is still somewhat “rudimentary”, when it comes to modelling the aerodynamics of high speed / high altitude flight, so a lot of aircraft tend to exhibit strange behaviours under either of those circumstances. I’m no expert when it comes to the Typhoon, but I would imagine that Mach 2.2 / 60K ft, is right up at the limits of its performance envelope, so it’s perhaps not too surprising that the aircraft is doing strange things at those sorts of speeds / altitudes (again, in MSFS flight models tend to fall apart outside of normal parameters). I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )
Why can I backflip this thing and why does it turn on its own and when I turn it automatically accelerates to 900knts but then when I straight out it starts losing speed
Hi Carspotter, Apologies for the slow reply: The Typhoon certainly has some strange handling characteristics currently, but I haven't really seen anything like that. Is it possible that you have your sim's flight model set to "Legacy", as opposed to "Modern"? That tends to induce the sort of strange behaviors you describe. Worth checking that and seeing how you go from there. Otherwise, I guess it could be a weight / CofG issue, a controller issue, or perhaps something to do with your assistance options? I hope that helps a little. Cheers and all the best!
Hello Andrew, I’m afraid I can’t offer much help on that one, not having tried the Xbox version of the aircraft myself. It could be a limitation of the console version of the aircraft, though I would be surprised if that is the case. The only other thing that I can think of; addons purchased through the Marketplace, tend to have any munitions, gunsights etc stripped away. Perhaps the HMD was considered a “gunsight” though again, I don’t think that would make any sense. Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. All the best! : )
Hi AB, I’m not 100% sure what might be causing your issues, but I seem to recall that below a certain speed, the CJ Sim Typhoon goes from auto trim, to manual trim. Could it be that you’re falling below that speed threshold and that as you’re doing so, your aircraft is way out of trim? Other than that, it’s difficult to say exactly what the problem might be, without knowing all of the details (it’s perhaps worth checking your weight and balance also). I hope that is of some help. All the best!
Hi JH, I think the addon is available from the Marketplace, but I would advise against purchasing it from there. Any addons sold through the Marketplace, have all of their weapons etc removed. I know there is currently a sale over on the Marketplace, so if you do decide to purchase from there, make sure you go for the CJ Simulations version and not the Bredok3D version (which isn’t very good). I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
Hi Andrew, If memory serves me correctly, you need to assign a button to “Set Nosewheel Steering Limit” (or something to that effect). You’ll need to press that, in order to activate the nosewheel steering. I hope that helps? All the best! : )
I’m thinking about getting the new Xbox and Microsoft flight sim for Christmas. Can you get the typhoon on Xbox or is it only pc? We can’t afford a pc my mums just recently beat cancer so money is tight and my dream is to be a fighter pilot.
Hello Alistair, Apologies for the slow reply: I believe the Typhoon is also available on the Xbox yes (and CJ would seem to confirm that), but I'm not 100% sure I'm afraid, not owning an Xbox myself. I'm very happy to hear about your Mum's outcome. I hope you can all enjoy a great Christmas together! Best of luck with the dream, I can think of no better job ; ) All the best to you and the family!
Hi Skyangels, I'm afraid I can't give too much guidance there, since I haven't been able to try the release candidate of the product myself (I was only given an early access version). I would say that the aircraft is still somewhat of a work in progress and so the autopilot may well be refined in due course (the Asobo autopilot systems are still pretty flawed unfortunately, that tends to bring up issues with a lot of addons). Off the top of my head, it might be worth adjusting the weight / CofG and try flying at different speeds etc, but it's probably a question of mitigating the issue for now, as opposed to nullifying it altogether. Sorry I can't be of more help on that one. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations no problem thanks for doing all you can to help put anyway! And yea sometimes in AP the eurofighter tends to have a hard time leveling itself. The way I fix it is I just turn ap off and back on again and sometimes that works, hopefully its all fixed with the recent update tho
Thank you for another great Video! How does this one compare to the longer existing Bredok 3D Version of the Eurofighter? As the Bredok products are always pretty basic, I was hoping that here comes a higher standard, but at the moment it doesn't seem so.
Hello John, You're most welcome on the video, my pleasure! This version of the Typhoon is certainly considerably better than the Bredok3D one (I own both). The CJ Simulations Typhoon is still a "mid-tier" addon, but it's systems and flight modelling are a cut above the Bredok3D version, sounds are default, but decent enough, visually the addon could be better of course (internally at least). If I had to choose between the two, I would take the CJ Simulations version every time. There is actually *another* Typhoon coming out from India Foxt Echo also haha, so you might want to wait and see how that one stacks up against the competition. . . I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
So, I'm struggling to fly a P28 Warrior. I'm fighting the rudder and everything else to land in windy conditions. ATC keeps whining at me. I can't see the damn airstrip in time. The sweat is running off my forehead. And you want me to fly this???😂
Hi CJ, Apologies for the slow reply, I'm just catching up on my comments now. This version of the Typhoon is certainly considerably better than the Bredok3D one (I own both). The CJ Simulations Typhoon is still a "mid-tier" addon, but it's systems and flight modelling are a cut above the Bredok3D version. Sounds are default, but decent enough, visually the addon could be better of course (internally at least). If I had to choose between the two, I would take the CJ Simulations version every time. There is actually another Typhoon coming out from India Foxt Echo also haha, so you might want to wait and see how that one stacks up against the competition. . . I hope that helps a little. Cheers and all the best! : )
I think this is the best Typhoon avaiable at the moment in MSFS, although I have had some strange erratic control issues at times, sometimes it randomly starts banking left, anyone else seen this? I am running the latest version.
Hello Kevin, Is the weird banking happening as you slow the aircraft down for the approach? The Typhoon’s flight control logic, actually changes as one comes below a certain speed threshold (at least on the CJ Simulations version of the aircraft); the aircraft basically goes from FBW, to direct control and during the transition between the two modes, I find I get some weird control behaviours also. Do you think that might be what you’re experiencing? Cheers, all the best!
For better or worse, I suppose they charge what their customers are willing to pay Matt. For sure the Typhoon isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea, but I think dedicated simmers are looking for different thing's, vs the more casual MSFS crowd. I certainly would like to see some improved texturing on the Typhoon (particularly internally), but DC Designs seem pretty confident with their sales numbers, so I suppose there's no impetus for them to drastically change what they're doing. . . Who knows though, perhaps as the sim matures and more addon come into MSFS, competition will drive general standards up (India Foxt Echo are also working on a Typhoon for example). All the best!
I would rather there was a complete remake of DIDs EF2000. Failing that, it’s still the best dynamic campaign ever made for it and it still works when run through DOS box in Win 10
People are paying, right now, 25 euros for Deimos Gripen. Which is stunning, beautiful, 8K textures blablabla, but have civilian MSFS Garmin for avionics and fly like a plastic bottle. Textures isn't everything. They need to improve on that but IFE F-35, while looking better, isn't the most interesting jet to fly. They put a lot of work on the avionics and the flight model (which is improving after every update)
IRL the canopy closure is accompanied by an insanely loud horn! Also, IRL the Typhoon Flaps/Slats are locked UP when the gear is down ie, not used for takeoff ar landing. Also, there is no trim! FBW auto trim. Not sure the flight model is that real!
Ah, well thanks very much for the info Jim! I guess CJ Simulations can be forgiven for the lack of horn haha, but based on what you have said, it does sound as though the manual and indeed the flight model is rather inaccurate in a couple of areas then. The manual states that the flaps / slats are managed automatically - I'm rather surprised they would be locked up for the takeoff, but there you go. It is also stated that the aircraft only auto-trims above a certain speed and that is what's modelled in the sim, but again this would be inaccurate behaviour based on your statements then. Judging by your profile pic, you probably know far more than I do about these things haha! Cheers again and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations The flap thing is due to the Delta wing. It doesnt need additional high lift devices when at high angles of attack. Same with the Vulcan and Concorde.
Another great video and review but this time we know a Just Flight Typhoon is in the works so I will be waiting for that one to compare then decide which one deserves my money :) Also are we going to get a video from you on the India Foxtexho M346 Master ? Artful
Thank you very much sir, I'm glad you enjoyed it! This is essentially the Just Flight Typhoon, since JF are marketing / publishing the product, but you're correct that another Typhoon is also in the works (from India Foxt Echo - so it should be good). As you say, no harm in waiting for the IFE Typhoon to release and then figuring out which one is the better buy : ) I would like to take a look at the IFE M346 and have been meaning to actually haha. It's really just a question of free time; if nothing else pops up within the coming days, I maaay get around to taking a look at the addon - no promises though I'm afraid ; ) Cheers for asking though. All the best!
Hi La Rata, I’m afraid not. The DC Designs Typhoon is pretty “bare bones” in terms of weapons modelling (but that’s pretty typical in the sim in fairness). All you get is the visual representation of the weapons externally. I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )
I got the game 2 days ago and am use to flying Fighter Jets but how do you turn on the ATC i can’t find it in setting or anywhere online so i cant start my flight I am on XBOX btw
Hello 40’s, I’m afraid I’m not all that familiar with the console, so there’s only so much help I can offer up here. Firstly, when you say you “can’t” start your flight, I presume you mean that you would rather run your flight using ATC? You should be able to fly just fine in MSFS, without using the default ATC system. In terms of troubleshooting, you’ll need to check your sound settings and also your text to speech settings; make sure that ATC (or whatever the appropriate setting is called) volume is turned all the way up and make sure you have text to speech turned on / set to “Azure”. You’ll then need to check which key press you have assigned to Open / Close ATC Window, otherwise you’ll need to select the ATC menu from the drop-down menu at the top of the screen. Lastly, if you’re using the Typhoon specifically, you’ll most likely need the electrical systems powered and the avionics switches turned on, before you’re able to call ATC. I hope that helps a little? All the best : )
You’re most welcome on the reply! There is actually an option in the settings menu (I’m afraid I can’t remember where exactly), to have the ATC window auto-open on loading into the flight. Cheers : )
You’re most welcome on the reply! There is actually an option in the settings menu (I’m afraid I can’t remember where exactly), to have the ATC window auto-open on loading into the flight. Cheers : )
Hi Next Gen, Overall the F-22 is a more polished product I would say. Graphically the Raptor wins by some margin, systems depth is broadly the same between the two addons, same for the sounds. I can’t attest to the accuracy of the flight models; the F-22 has a couple of nice tricks up its sleeve, but has a real problem with buffeting at high g, the Typhoon’s flight model feels slightly more plausible as a result. If it were me, between the F-22 and the CJ Simulations Typhoon, I’d probably go for the F-22 at the moment. I hope that helps a little? All the best! : )
I am not a quick complainer and let me put it this way, if I were in the Air Force Procurement Office, this aircraft would not be in my Air Force. This is not a fly-by-wire aircraft, it is the preliminary stage of a concept for me. Sorry, too much money for that.
That's fair enough Rainer. As I mentioned during the review, I know these sorts of products aren't going to be for everyone (many do enjoy them though and I don't mind taking a look at "the other end of the spectrum" from time to time). Hopefully by showcasing the product, it allows people to make an informed decision for themselves. All the best! : )
I don't know why, because I don't have 'an accent' but my "Clear Prop!" is like a .wav file of ITBs. Can't get out of that habit. Hard to do in a jet, but from his other videos
Haha! Well, apologies for that Greg : P I had an American viewer reach out a little while back; he was reading a book with a British character in it and apparently he kept hearing my voice when reading the characters lines - poor chap! XD Cheers, all the best : )
Hi Jep, Hard for me to say, as really that comes down to personal preference / what you thought based on the review. CJ Simulations has now added a custom soundset to the aircraft though and it’s pretty decent. Personally, whilst I like the Typhoon, I’d say that the Heatblur F-14 and the India Foxt Echo Tornado IDS, both offer up a much more detailed, realistic and enjoyable experience but for sure, CJ Simulations currently offer the best Typhoon option available for the sim. I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
Hi MS32, It’s as JJ alludes to: The display is supposed to represent a HMD (Helmet Mounted Display). The HUD does also work correctly, as demonstrated earlier on in the video. I hope that clarifies things. All the best : )
Thx for your detailed review. i like your honest and unbiased look at the product *sorry thats a google translation* At first i have to admit - I'm not really attracted to modern fighter jets in MSFS. I think it's not the right sim for the job. Also, I see a great lack of detail in the flight characteristics. At least i think there is. So not a purchase for me.
Thanks very much Ron. I certainly try my best to give a detailed and honest look at any addon I review, that way the viewer can decide for themself, whether or not a product is right for them. For sure MSFS is not the best sim for these sorts of aircraft and I know this sort of product isn't to everyone's tastes (I think most of my viewers prefer "study level" products, but personally I don't mind taking a look at "the other end of the spectrum" from time to time). I'm glad the video was of use. Cheers and all the best! : )
Hi Anthony, The CJ Simulations Typhoon, costs around £35 (from memory). Exact pricing will depend on your home country, tax situation, currency etc. I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
Ahhh, you may well be onto something there Stuart! I did only install the birds recently, then again, I only started to notice the more stuttery performance post-SU10. I shall have to investigate further, but thanks very much for the pointer! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations hi there, thanks for you're videos. I downloaded Great Britain North & Central along with the British Isles birds when I installed all three I immediately noticed an fps hit, to be honest I jamp straight to the conclusion it must be the orbx Britain North or Central so I uninstalled them both to find the FPS hit was still an issue so I uninstalled the British Isles Birds add on and got back my FPS. I think it's crazy the how that add on affects profromance so much compared to others, so it may very well need better optimisation into the sim. All the best and looking forward to the next video.
Thank again for the review. The first words of the video were enough for me to decide if I want to buy the product or not: DC Design a clear no. graphics are sub standard as always and the the whole plane is too simple for me. Look at the f14 how poorly the 3d model and the textures are. He has no intentions or abilities to make the f14 good but instead let’s push another fun flyer with poor system, graphics and textures. I wonder why somebody with poor texture abilities pushed so many poor liveries in the store. Sadly fighter jets are mostly not well made in MSFS. The only exception is maybe the Hawk T1. A clear No for the typhoon. angry rant over :)
Hi Michael, Haha, feel free to rant as much as you like; any and all opinions are welcome here! I'm glad the video helped you to make an informed decision. I don't mind the systems simplicity of the DC Designs aircraft, as that is somewhat based around the target audience, but I agree that texture improvements are needed on most of their products. DC Designs has actually taken on a new texture artist, so let's see what comes of that (I believe the F-4 should be the first DC Designs addon done to the "new and improved" standard). I can certainly see why these sorts of addons miss the mark for a lot of people (they aren't the sort of addons I generally fly myself in the sim, but I do enjoy taking a look at them and having a quick blast around), but there are many casual simmers that do enjoy them. As you say, fast jets are not a strong point in MSFS currently (though I do love the Hawk and the F-104 is pretty entertaining also) and DCS runs rings around anything available within Microsoft Flight Simulator. Cheers for your thoughts. All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Not only is a texture designer needed also a 3D artist could help. I found so many badly mofelnd areas around the plane it’s crazy. The light are painted instead of modelled, there is a gap left and right of the cockpit giving you perfekt few on the world around you. But I ha e to admit I still like to fly it and especially IFR but I guess tthats because of the F14 and what it does to me in my head :) Let’s hope the F14 gets the love it deserves one day. Cheers Michael
Well, I think it may have been someone that can do both texturing and modelling in fairness, though I’m not 100% sure on that. As you say, hopefully the F-14 and indeed the entire DC Designs lineup get some more love - DC does now how to make some enjoyable aircraft at the end of the day. Cheers! : )
I will be waiting for their version. I personally prefer their planes. They mentioned other companies plans for releasing planes have no bearing on when they release theirs. They take their time and are not interested in being first to release.
That probably would be an astute business move haha. I haven't seen much in the way of information on IFE's Typhoon, but I've no doubt it will be a very nice product overall. I'm looking forward to IFE's effort and it will be interesting to compare the two products when the time comes. . . Cheers Dave : )
I would certainly agree with you there John - always preferable when a dev takes their time and releases a product only when it is actually ready for the prime time. Sadly, fewer and fewer devs actually seem to be doing this. . .
Pffft, what tosh! The same as Formula 1 cancelling flypasts at races. . . don't even get me started on that one ha. Sorry to hear that you've lost your airshow though. I'm sure we've all been saved from oblivion as a result : /
Thanks very much Baz, glad you enjoyed it! I’m not on the Xbox so, I don’t know whether this will be useful info or not but, I use a 3rd-party recording tool for recording the external sections: flightsim.to/file/8163/flight-recorder and then Shadowplay to record the actual video. For camera controls, I’m afraid I can’t really elaborate on that but, there are some great tutorials here on RUclips. I hope that helps and that you’re having fun with the Typhoon! All the best : )
It’s still so disappointing that they cannot make the afterburners look more realistic. IFT’s look great, Asobo’s look great, even Bredok got that part right…
The afterburners could indeed use some work Jay (although they perhaps look a little better, than the angles shown in this video would suggest). I gather DC Designs will be using new / improved methods for the modelling of their F4 and will then be revamping their past addons with the same methods thereafter; so hopefully we'll see some improvements to the Typhoon and the rest of their output at a later date. Cheers, all the best!
Haha, it did TT. In fact, quite likely MSFS will have 3 of them before one arrives in DCS! XD I think the DCS Typhoon will be worth the wait though ; )
Hi Finn, What makes you say that? Not to say that you’re wrong (it’s entirely possible you know something I don’t), but I would have said they’re the very definition of canards and certainly a lot of online resources seem to suggest that’s what they’re referred to as on the Typhoon? If you’re a Typhoon pilot or engineer etc, then I stand corrected though haha. All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I‘m not a Pilot or an Engineer (but my dad was an Aircraft Mechanic back in the days for the Panavia Tornado) these are the words of Gero Finke, Former Commodore of the german Tactical Airforce Wing 71 „Richthofen“, and also a former Eurofighter Typhoon Pilot and Flight Instructor. According to him the foreplanes are inverse. You can observe that yourself when you pull the stick. If you want to pitch up the foreplanes go down and vice versa. The Eurofighter is built in a maximum instable configuration, without the foreplanes the EF2000 would tumble. Oh and BTW the Eurofighter will be introduced into DCS World in the near Future. Only a Tranche 1 but with modern weaponry including IRIS-T and the MBDA Meteor.
I seriously have to stop spending money on junk products.. and the Typhoon is no exception. I found this plane quite disappointing especially for a Just Flight marketed product. The extremes in the quality of modelling and textures across the plane from good to bad is amazing and the cockpit is downright awful. And comparting it to the Sim Skunk Works Fiat G91 and the Starfighters, this Typhoon feels like it should be a third the price or freeware from Flightsim.to.. And how hard is it to make a decent afterburner effect!? I think I am going to ask for a full refund.
The TF104G is unoptimized trash, still can't get above 10,000 ft after last product update over 5 months ago which claimed to fix the bug. SSW has very poor customer service with regards to they're products.
Hello Alex, I'm sorry to hear that you weren't satisfied with the product. The quality of the modelling / texturing is indeed quite variable across the addon, which I agree is a shame. DC Designs have stated that their upcoming F4 will be done to a new graphical standard and that their previous line-up will be updated to the same quality thereafter; exactly what that entails remains to be seen, but hopefully the visuals will be brought up the sort of standards we expect within MSFS. I do hope you managed to get a refund, if requested. All the best!
Indeed Stuart, I don't know what has happened to Sim Skunk Works, but they seem to have gone AWOL and left their products with some pretty major issues that still need fixing up. I do hope they come back and fix the addons, as I was enjoying the F-104's whilst they were working correctly. All the best!
Hi Andres, Thanks very much for the feedback. What is it specifically that you don't like about the zoom angles? I know that some don't like the fact that I use such close-up shots of the addons, but personally I find it's preferable as 1) it allows the viewer to see the addon in more detail and 2) I feel it gives the addon more "presence", rather than it looking a bit like a toy. I'm a little surprised that you bring up the cinematography in general, as most people seem to enjoy that aspect of the channel and indeed, I think I put more effort into the visuals of my videos than is typical. None of the above is to say that you're wrong, I'm just trying to clarify things from my side and once again I do (always) appreciate the feedback : ) I'm glad you're otherwise enjoying the content. Thanks very much for watching and all the best!
Hi Noel, I agree that it would be nice to see further progress on some of the DC Designs back-catalogue. I don't own the F-14 myself, but indeed most of the line-up could use some work on texturing and I had hoped Concorde might have seen further improvements by now. . . All the best!
Haha, why even develop these things if it's just in the msfs engine where it can't use its fangs, no enemies to dogfight, can't bvr, use radar, etc, basically nothing it is built for. Better to just get a Learjet at this point, no? :D
Well, I think it just comes down to "to each his own" Schimml0rd. I can certainly see where you're coming from, but some people definitely enjoy this sort of stuff in the sim. Personally, it's not the sort of aircraft I spend a lot of time in MSFS with (I very much enjoy DCS for the sort of thing you mention), but of course MSFS has the somewhat unique property, of allowing one to fly anywhere in the world and also, these aircraft still spend a significant amount of their flying time *not* fighting. As I say, it's just "horses for courses" I reckon. Cheers, all the best! : )
Sorry aber der Eurofighter sieht einfach bescheiden aus und fliegt sich auch komplett Unrealistisch. Dazu kommt das man sich einfach keine Mühe gegeben hat und nur einfach versucht auf dem einfachsten weg Geld zu verdienen. Alleine die Texturen sind schlimm .Auf den ersten Blick ok..aber ich meine für was haben wir einen FSX Nachfolger der Grafisch soviel bietet und man sich dann nicht die mühe macht und wirklich das heraus holt was Grafisch immerhin möglich ist. Ich spreche hier bewusst nicht von der Systemtiefe, da die ja zum grössten Teil unter Verschluss ist.
Thanks again Peter! I realise these sorts of products might not be to everyone's tastes, but hopefully the review still allows for people to make an informed decision (and being a Typhoon, I was keen to see for myself what the product had to offer). Cheers : )
I’m trying to find the raf base on the map so I can try Mac loop can you tell me what it’s called please , I’m new to Microsoft flight so sorry iff I sound stupid
Hi Baz, In this flight, I departed from RAF Valley (EGOV), which is (I believe) where most Mach Loop flights would depart from. RAF Valley is located on the island of Anglesey. It’s a bit old now but, if you want a guide to the Mach Loop, I did make a video on it (departing from Aberporth, instead of RAF Valley): ruclips.net/video/WBQb7xh1ulk/видео.htmlsi=6XC0lcW5ji-jeTCw I hope that helps a little. All the best!
Just a point of order for you all. This is a joint venture between CJS and DCD. DCD done far more than just liveries. If it's not for you that's cool, but all DCD add-ons have had several updates applied since release and literally thousands of simmers are out there flying and enjoying there add-ons. Not just saying that, it's a fact. The target audience isn't those who want top study level add-ons and they're the first to admit that. Not every add-on has to be built for that. This and the other planes they developed are a whole load of fun whilst retaining a lot of simulation aspects and with the addition of Codename Jack for this add-on you can (if you ever chose to) expect some top quality features and coding. Thanks for your interest.
Fun doesnt mean "Flight Simulation"! It means arcade type flight! Impossible physics. 15 G plus (like the Mavrick movie) XBox type flight. Zoom and Zoom! Whooopee! For kids! Graphics are low res! DCS are higher! Whats the point if it isnt a realistic flight model? Not my hope for MSFS advanced features! Not for me. Just my 2 penneth! Sorry!
Haha, well I think we've already "agreed to disagree", that both fun and flight simulation can have their place in MSFS David, without one harming the other ; ) The Typhoon's flight model is far from perfect at the moment, but I wouldn't describe it as being an "arcade" one personally (mid-tier perhaps). I would have to agree with you on the graphics though - fun or otherwise, I would have expected better things within MSFS. There is a Typhoon coming to DCS also and no doubt that is going to be the best option for those who like to take their simming seriously (and it's an addon I am very much looking forward to myself). Horses for courses as always. I had some fun with the addon; it's not necessarily a product I would buy personally, but I know that many others are enjoying it : ) Cheers as always!
This makes me relive childhood memories. When I was a kid my father bought a game called “Super EF2000”. To me it looked and felt like real life. Oh, man.. Feels like ages ago
EF2000 was amazing! One of the early flight sims I recall having an actual dynamic campaign along with Falcon 3.
I had that on the Amiga iirc.
That's funny. Video games hadn't been invented yet when I was a kid.
Ahh EF2000 was a classic Davide! As John points out, the dynamic campaign was excellent and still puts many sims (including DCS) to shame haha. I'm glad the video brought back some nice memories : )
Cheers!
this isn't even similar to reality, it's pure shit. FS2020 is fucking shit
Spent 20+ years working at Warton. Bought and flown as soon as released. Its great fun. Now what we need is the English Electric Lightning to really make thunder over the Fylde.
The frightening......I would like that too.
Ah very nice Steve! The addon is indeed good fun - I'm glad you're enjoying it. A Lightning would certainly be high on my list also! Both Just Flight and Aerosoft produced versions of the aircraft previously, hopefully we'll see at least one of them bring their product into MSFS.
Cheers and happy flying! : )
I’m also Warton based!
I have to say... Right off the bat here.. ITB... IS The #1 Go-To Channel (for myself) for ALL of these Reviews, Pre, or indeed post releases for each and every model. I am saying a HUGE Thank you, for the most fair, balanced, and realistic outlook on all of the products here, Very well done. I look forward with more productions from yourself :D *Liked and subbed! NB* Edited because i felt like it :P
Thanks very much indeed for the kind words Robin Hood, it's thoroughly appreciated! (and an honour to receive such praise from one of my childhood favourites also haha ; )
I'm really glad you're enjoying the content and finding it to be of use - my absolute pleasure!
Thanks very much for the subscription and welcome aboard : )
I bought the old eurofighter when it came out and as a cadet I love it, recently a cadet mate told me there’s a new eurofighter coming out so I rushed straight to RUclips and lead me to this video, and I cannot wait for it to come out next week, we have all planned to buy this and go around the flying in formation.
Thank you again for this video and I am thankful for the overview ❤
Ah well I do hope you enjoy the addon when you pick it up then Littlep0d - a group flight sounds like a great way to have some fun with it!
My pleasure on the video, I'm glad you enjoyed it! From one (former) cadet to another, happy flying : )
This has to be the add on I'm looking forward to the most out of your recent reviews.
I just love the Typhoon. Just such a good looking plane.
Also congratulations on the 25k subs! You grew quite a lot over the last year.
Ah well I hope you enjoyed it then Dream!
I was actually never much of a fan of the Typhoon previously, but recording this video and spending quite a bit of time with the addon, has really made me grow to love the real thing haha.
Thanks very much man! Yeah, a pretty successful year all in all I think. You are in the fact the first and only person to notice hehe. Drop me a PM over on Discord when you get the chance ; )
Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Definitely enjoyed it!
How dare you not like the Typhoon! :p
I started liking it when I played Ace Combat over a decade ago.
The was an ace squadron in The Belkan War who where flying Typhoons.
Rot Squadron - and man they had some sexy liveries.
Sure I'll send you a DM in a second. ;)
Worked in the Wind Tunnel Dept at Warton when the aerodynamicists were try to decide on single fin/twin fin, mainplane planform and how big and exactly where the canards should be. Heady days indeed!
Very cool Tom! I suppose (these days at least), one might only get to see these sorts of projects once in a career. It must be quite satisfying to see an aircraft flying, that you played your own part in helping get airborne : )
Thanks for sharing and all the best to you!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Also spent time on theTornado project improving the thrust-reverser buckets, we borrowed a wind tunnel at RAE Bedford for that. In April the model was icing-up and when we returned in the August the tunnel temperature was hitting 33C. Before I left BAe at the end of 2000 I was given a guided tour of one of the development Typhoons, great stuff!
Brilliant review video as always. Thank you very much and take care.
Thanks very much sir, I'm glad you enjoyed it. My pleasure as always : )
ITB has called it again 👍
My thoughts on this one are related to in which generation one sits. What I mean is, if you are of a certain age you are perhaps going to be more interested in the upcoming Harrier and Tornado. Both of which I’ll be buying. This one doesn’t ultimately appeal, largely because I still have memories of Tornados running the valleys up around Ammanford and the Lliw reservoirs when I was a kid, and my grandfather arranging for me to sit in a Harrier 😎 As for other mods, I appreciate the effort here but I am the wrong demographic.
I guess I fall more into the Tornado / Harrier generation also Mark (very much looking forward to both, although even more excited to see we'll have them both in DCS). The IFE Tornado will hopefully be a stunner, Just Flight's should be excellent on the systems front (when that eventually arrives). Now, who's working on a Jaguar. . .
I've never been a big Typhoon fan, but I did warm to the aircraft having spent some time with it for this video ; )
Cheers!
The custom sound is made by Acoustic Sim for all DC jets. Problem is they are busy and you sometimes have to wait for a little while (+ it costs the dev around 2000 euros). They've been on queue for a while and they asked their community on Discord if people wanted to wait for custom sound or if the F18 would be ok for a while. People said they wanted the jet now, which is why it's been released with the F-18 sound package.
Well, that's certainly interesting to know Mad, thanks for the info!
I guess this sort of thing often comes down to user preference: CJ Simulations aren't the first dev to ask their community, whether or not they would like a product releasing before XYZ is complete and of course the community is excited to get their hands on the addon, so they say "yes". If it were me, I'd rather wait and get the finished thing but again, we're all different. As I mentioned in the video, the F-18 sounds aren't half bad. . .but hopefully the Acoustic Sim sounds will be better still : )
All the best!
LOL? Right @3:10 Notice the Shadows of that bird (Crow)? That passed over the aircrafts frame.. I heard NO sound associated with said bird.. Must be a stealth crow xD
Haha, it's the MOD's newest and most top-secret / sophisticated project - a carrier pigeon XD
This is an amazing review and gave me all the information I needed to decide to buy one this evening. Thanks for the great content.
Thanks very much James, I'm really glad you enjoyed the review / found it useful!
My pleasure on the video! I do hope you're having fun with the Typhoon. Happy flying and all the best : )
I love it... finally a believable Eurofighter for MSFS. Mine seems to have inverted canard animations though. Surely they will patch those to be correct.
I'm glad you're enjoying the addon AyKay!
I'm not too sure on the Canards; it seems there is a lot more going on with the Typhoons Canards than meets the eye (just doing a little bit of reading, the canards serve multiple functions, including introducing further instability as the jet manoeuvres), so it would be tricky to say whether they are in fact working in the correct sense or not. I don't have the addon installed currently, so can't take a look I'm afraid, but no doubt if the animation is incorrect, DC Designs will take a look and address it.
Sorry I can't be of more help on that one. Happy flying! : )
I'd love a nice Typhoon for the sim, but I'm in 2 minds about this one knowing that IndiaFoxtEcho are nearing completion of theirs. It might explain why this was rushed out minus the sounds and various glitches. I'm not a fan of DC after buying the F15 Eagle so their involvement doesn't thrill me. If it was £15 I'd probably grab it right away and start snapping epic screenshots.
Hello, maybe you know if somebody else is working on a F22 Raptor? We now have the Bredoked trash and the top mach F22. Top mach looks very good.
But is someone else working on a raptor too?
Hello Michael,
I don't believe that anybody else is currently working on a Raptor. IRIS Simulations were, but they dropped theirs, once the Top Mach version released. The Top Mach F-22 is pretty nice overall; some flight model peculiarities and it isn't study level, but then I guess it never could be : )
I hope that helps. Cheers and all the best!
Well certainly there's no harm in waiting on IFE's Typhoon and seeing how the two products compare Axeman. Going off the historic efforts of both companies, the IFE Eurofighter will almost certainly be prettier and have more systems depth, but the CJ Simulations version might nip it on the sounds / flight model. I would expect the two products will retail for about the same price. For epic screenshots, the IFE Typhoon will probably be the winner haha : )
Cheers!
IFE Typhoon won't be out before a little while. The F15 was the first DC jet and they progressed a lot since then. Honestly their Typhoon is good and it keeps improving after each update. The next one will add the CFD Simulation (Computational Fluid Dynamics) which will improve even more the flight model. The avionics is also looking good, considering most payware are just using the regular MSFS Garmin, it's a fantastic effort there.
DC/CJ have to improve the texture quality of their products, but when it comes to the avionics and flight model, I feel like they are better than most devs out there for MSFS
I think that’s pretty fair Mad. DC Designs get a lot of criticism about all aspects of their products, but I think the systems / flight models tend to decent (given what the dev is aiming for); people look at the product, see its a bit rough visually and then trash the rest also. I’ve generally preferred the way DC Designs products fly vs India Foxt Echo aircraft (not that it’s a competition), but you don’t hear IFE getting much criticism, essentially because they make visually beautiful addons. I gather DC Designs is taking on a new graphical engineer, so hopefully that will help : )
Cheers!
Finally one that works? Thanks for this.
Well, it certainly works better MrS. The CJ Simulations Typhoon is by no means a "study level" recreation of the aircraft, but it certainly trounces the Bredok3D version in most respects. India Foxt Echo are also working on a Typhoon, so it will be interesting to see how the two compare.
My pleasure on the video! Cheers : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations 'trounce'..... I've not heard that in ages. Cheers! Oh, one more question: are there prefered controller settings. Mine seem to be abrupt and sensitive and I'd like to stiffen them up.
Brilliant review as always from ITB. Will wait and see what the custom sound set is like before purchasing it but it’s looking promising. Looking forward to your next one 👍🏻
Thanks very much James, very kind of you to say and I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Yes, probably not a bad idea, waiting and seeing how things pan out. The soundset could go either way in theory, though of course hopefully it will be an improvement on what is being used currently.
All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations are the custom sounds out now?
Hi Abbie,
The custom soundset has indeed been released and it’s actually very nice overall: ruclips.net/video/emhaL0BYsjk/видео.html
I hope that helps. All the best : )
Well it took more than a couple weeks to get that soundpack out but it's finally here so we finally have a realistic sounding Typhoon! 😃
Yes, the Typhoon now sounds really good from what I have seen / heard! I may revisit the aircraft at some point in the future, but I’m kind of holding out for some graphical updates before I do so.
Cheers EW! : )
Great video as always. Any chance of a flight plan for the Mach Loop? XP/ MSFS/ LNMap?. Thanks
Hi Mick,
Thanks very much, I'm really glad you enjoyed it! Apologies for the slow reply, I'm just catching up on comments now.
There are a couple of Mach Loop flight plans available over on Flightsim.to: flightsim.to/discover/mach%20loop
Hopefully one of those should do the trick, but if you have any further problems, let me know : )
Happy flying and all the best!
I love Valley as thats where I spent alot of time but I mever did the Mach loop while there which is why I always head to LFA17, its just as scenic and I know the area well
Ah well lucky you Chris! I had assumed that the Mach Loop might be some sort of "rite of passage" when stationed at Valley haha, but I've no doubt the Lake District is every bit as beautiful / enjoyable (I've walked it, sadly not flown it ha)! Funnily enough, I nearly went with the Lake District for this video - just to do something a little different, next time perhaps. . .
Cheers and all the best! : )
This will be fine to hold someone over until the much higher quality India Fox Techo Typhoon releases.
In general the texture quality on DC Designs products are much lower than you would expect the pricing to reflect
The lack of modelling & detail, especially on the cockpit canopy bar on all his work is starting to get a little annoying. Lacks so many details.
@@D25Bev Ikr, I don't know why people are calling this good when the mirrors on the canopy bar looks like they are ripped off of the f-14🤣
@@missnell2 Nevertheless, at least this mid range one *Untill IFE bring his one out, is Certainly way better than the Typho
on that is currently available, right?
@@robinhood1577 Yeah, obviously the DC Designs Typhoon is better, but you expect more out of a developer like DC Designs, he's half assing it.
@@missnell2 Not at all (with expecting more out of *any developer*... I understand **Totally*** limits of the sim, as i also do any limits of developers too) , Read my very reply to ITB on this. But i do agree with you here by being half assed. ***At Least*** Cj or DC never forwarded their product as Full fidelity. They have **Always** stated that they are never going to market to the **Study** level stuff, right> nor could they ever do that. **Regards** Also, MSFS2020 can Never have the ability that combat flight sims (which are dedidated) can have (**YET**), so, take your choice. It's a Two sided coin with flightsimulators, and it always has been.
Please do not forget, we are just about 2 years now into a brand new simulator.. Give the devs time also :)
Another awesome video! Thanks
Cheers Phill! You’re most welcome as always : )
I saw a video about this plane, looked interesting, but came to your channel to get the real deal of what's going on.
Haha, well thanks very much, Pink Floyd! I hope you found the video useful : )
Cheers for watching and all the best!
I cant wait on your review for the Harrier
Yes, I'm looking forward to the Harrier as Piloto! Given that the AV-8B is one of the few jets I flew quite a bit in DCS though, I think the DC Designs version might have a tricky time stacking up haha. Nevertheless, I'm keen to see what the product has to offer : )
Cheers!
Very useful video. I will wait that they fix the issues highlighted in your video. I am very happy with the F-22A, by Top Mach Studios, so I definitely wait. 🥂🥂
Thank you very much Raymond, I'm glad you found the video to be of use!
Waiting is perhaps not a bad idea, if you are happy to do so - for sure there are still some areas of the product that could use some work.
Happy flying with the F-22! All the best : )
fantastic flying. Thank you so much!
Thank you very much Donald, very kind of you to say! I’m really glad you enjoyed the flight. My absolute pleasure and all the best : )
I think you have to walk a fine line between critiquing the efforts of a developer and offering an unbiased analysis of the value of a MSFS addon. I think you do a very good job of this. Unfortunately, for the viewer who is trying to make up his mind on whether the product is worth buying it's a different story.
Thanks very much Bill. I try to keep things simple; I showcase the product as best I can and attempt to give facts over opinions, that way the viewer can decide for themselves, whether or not the product is for them : )
Cheers and all the best!
Great video! It’s a shame the typhoon doesn’t go through the Mach loop anymore.
Thanks very much AI4K, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Does the Typhoon not?? Why is that then - noise issues or something?
Cheers, all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I think it was an incident where a pilot broke regulations although there might be other reasons.
Ahh ok, that’s a shame. . . Thanks for the info Southernhawk! : )
I love it’s puppy ears
Haha, I shan’t un-see that now Rachel XD
MSFS: AMRAAM on racks 👎
Also MSFS: Racks on a boat 👍
Nice review!
Haha! Microsoft logic. . . XD
I can understand not wanting missiles, bombs etc (to keep the sim's age rating), but getting rid of gun barrels, cannon fairings etc, just seems a touch too far (especially on historical aircraft).
Cheers Tickle, all the best! : )
Best thing in MSFS is when it turns christmas and you decide to turn on snow and fly over the british country side
Can't wait for dcs one
Me too Joël! That’s obviously gong to be a whole different experience : )
All the best!
Going through the loop at 600 knots will have that effect on elevator authority 😆 otherwise excellent review (loop is usually flown between 420-460 knots with 4G turns)
Haha, well for sure I would expect a lower turn rate / less elevator authority at those sorts of speeds, but my comments were as compared with other fast jets that I’ve tried in DCS etc (ie I still think the Typhoon had an issue, at least at the time of release). Also, perhaps I’m being dense, but if the Typhoon’s flight envelope protections allow a certain amount of g to be commanded, the aircraft should presumably be able to pull that amount of g at any speed (which if I recall correctly, is not what I was seeing here)? None of the above is to say you’re wrong, just to clarify my logic at the time.
I’m glad you enjoyed the review otherwise though. Cheers and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I have issues with elevator authority above around 460 knots on most aircraft, I’m probably going to pick up the Typhoon tonight thanks to this review 🤙🏻 will see for myself and very possibly make a right dick of myself realising it has no elevator authority 🤣
Haha, I’d be interested to hear what you think; although I believe the aircraft has just been updated again (with a nice new soundset as well), so there may no longer be any issue (if there ever was one). Happy flying! : )
Typhoon has had a Update recently... supposedly making it a lot better
I saw that Clueless. With the new sound pack, the Typhoon sounds great now! I haven’t had a chance to try the newest version of the aircraft myself, but I’d be interested to see how it flies after the update. I may revisit the addon at some point, but I’m holding off to see whether the product gets any visual updates also.
Cheers, all the best! : )
Hi! Which one of the current models, regardless of real world capabilities, do you think is the most agile? In terms of turning radius, acceleration, breaking, which model would do best in a make believe dogfight? Again, does not matter if the model is accurate in terms of real life capabilities etc, I am just looking for the model that would easiest get on your opponents six. Su--57? F-16? Typhoon? Any other? Thanks!
Hi Kristian,
Hmm, that’s a tricky one for me to answer, since I haven’t flown all of the available jets within the sim. Off the top of my head, I’d say you’re better off going for something like a Deimos, or Bredok3D product, since they have more simplistic flight models and therefore often tend to over-perform. I seem to recall that the Felon was more manoeuvrable than the F-22, when I put them head-to-head. The Bredok3D Typhoon used to be highly overpowered / manoeuvrable, but it’s a long time since I’ve flown it, so I’m not sure whether that’s still the case. The Bredok3D Typhoon would probably be my best guess, but it is just a guess at the end of the day. . .
Sorry I can’t be a bit more helpful on that one. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you for your answer, much appreciated!
I already own the CJ Typhoon, DC F14, Indias F35 etc, and love them, BUT, a friend and I have this stupid bet going on, where theres no rules and zero room for immersion. Dont ask me why...
So far Ive figured out that you can do some pretty intense stuff in the Su-57 if you play with the flaps correctly, 20+G' turns. So think you were pretty much spot on there, hehe.
Thanks again!
Haha, sounds like fun! You’re most welcome on the reply. Happy flying and all the best! : )
Hi, could you make the review of the Aermacchi M 346 by Indiafoxtecho? I am undecided whether to buy it. A thousand thanks.
Hi Tommy,
I do keep meaning to take a look at the M346 haha. Depending on a few other commitments (I'm pretty busy at the moment), I *may* get a chance to look at it in the coming days - no promises though I'm afraid ; )
Thanks for asking though! Cheers and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you very much! Best regards!!!
I have the opposite problem. When I pull back on the stick at 600 knots the jet goes into a 15 degree aoa turn pulling 15gs, then keeps turning for a while even when I've stopped pulling. Is there a fix for this?
I did see that behavior on one occasion Joshua (the high g turn actually took me up to around 250,000ft, most bizarre haha). I tried to replicate the same thing for the video, but was unable to do so. I don't know what causes the behavior I'm afraid, but it's strange if you're seeing that all the time. Perhaps it's a load / CofG issue, could be controller related, it could also be related to assists etc I suppose, but I wouldn't be able to tell you exactly how to fix it unfortunately. Perhaps worth reaching out to Just Flight / the devs?
Sorry I can't be of more help on that one. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I did actually end up reaching out to the Devs, and if you start cold and dark in parking there's no problem of that, however if you start already lined up on the runway you get the crazy high GS. They said they're working on a fix for it and it shouldn't be too long.
@@joshuahickey9037 It's been fixed yeah. The G limiter wasn't working as intended if you would start from the Runaway. They fixed it so now you should be fine
@Into the Blue Simulations,
maybe inertia of the heavy Typhoon is what make it sluggish .
Possibly F Geroge, although that's not how it came across at the time. I've never flown a fast jet in the real world, so I can only go off experiences I've had in other sims; certainly, how the Typhoon behaved here at high speeds, is not something I've seen with any DCS addons etc. Given the Typhoons reputation for its superb manoeuvrability, I'd be surprised if the flight model is accurate in this regard.
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )
So looking forward to this one on the xbox
Well hopefully you don't have to wait too long then Stephen (I'm afraid I'm not sure how long the wait might be - presumably once the addon is available on the Marketplace, it will also be made available on the console)!
Cheers, all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations it's out now
Happy flying then! : )
Does anyone know why the aircraft wobbles at high speeds? Is there a setting in the craft to prevent it from doing that? I notice it around Mach 2.2 at 50k-60 feet.
Hi Robie,
I don’t have an exact answer for you, but MSFS is still somewhat “rudimentary”, when it comes to modelling the aerodynamics of high speed / high altitude flight, so a lot of aircraft tend to exhibit strange behaviours under either of those circumstances. I’m no expert when it comes to the Typhoon, but I would imagine that Mach 2.2 / 60K ft, is right up at the limits of its performance envelope, so it’s perhaps not too surprising that the aircraft is doing strange things at those sorts of speeds / altitudes (again, in MSFS flight models tend to fall apart outside of normal parameters).
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )
Why can I backflip this thing and why does it turn on its own and when I turn it automatically accelerates to 900knts but then when I straight out it starts losing speed
Hi Carspotter,
Apologies for the slow reply: The Typhoon certainly has some strange handling characteristics currently, but I haven't really seen anything like that. Is it possible that you have your sim's flight model set to "Legacy", as opposed to "Modern"? That tends to induce the sort of strange behaviors you describe. Worth checking that and seeing how you go from there. Otherwise, I guess it could be a weight / CofG issue, a controller issue, or perhaps something to do with your assistance options?
I hope that helps a little. Cheers and all the best!
I have been unable to turn on the hmd display in the Xbox version of the sim. Is this just me? Thanks.
Hello Andrew,
I’m afraid I can’t offer much help on that one, not having tried the Xbox version of the aircraft myself. It could be a limitation of the console version of the aircraft, though I would be surprised if that is the case. The only other thing that I can think of; addons purchased through the Marketplace, tend to have any munitions, gunsights etc stripped away. Perhaps the HMD was considered a “gunsight” though again, I don’t think that would make any sense.
Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. All the best! : )
Can anyone help, when I try land I get to around 180kts and it just dives the nose down ?
Hi AB,
I’m not 100% sure what might be causing your issues, but I seem to recall that below a certain speed, the CJ Sim Typhoon goes from auto trim, to manual trim. Could it be that you’re falling below that speed threshold and that as you’re doing so, your aircraft is way out of trim? Other than that, it’s difficult to say exactly what the problem might be, without knowing all of the details (it’s perhaps worth checking your weight and balance also).
I hope that is of some help. All the best!
Is this the same aircraft you can buy in MSFS Marketplace?
Hi JH,
I think the addon is available from the Marketplace, but I would advise against purchasing it from there. Any addons sold through the Marketplace, have all of their weapons etc removed. I know there is currently a sale over on the Marketplace, so if you do decide to purchase from there, make sure you go for the CJ Simulations version and not the Bredok3D version (which isn’t very good).
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
I love flying this but I can't taxy her, I can't find a way of steering the nose wheel.
I use the VKB NXT with a Thrustmaster quadrant.
Hi Andrew,
If memory serves me correctly, you need to assign a button to “Set Nosewheel Steering Limit” (or something to that effect). You’ll need to press that, in order to activate the nosewheel steering.
I hope that helps? All the best! : )
Thank you@@IntotheBlueSimulations, that sorted it. Now I don't have to shut down on the runway anymore😂
You’re most welcome Andrew! Happy to hear you can now enjoy the Typhoon during all phases of flight haha : )
I’m thinking about getting the new Xbox and Microsoft flight sim for Christmas. Can you get the typhoon on Xbox or is it only pc?
We can’t afford a pc my mums just recently beat cancer so money is tight and my dream is to be a fighter pilot.
Its on xbox series x. I have the 1st typhoon. I'm trying to figure out the difference between this one (CJ Simulation)or the original
@@cjjohnson8567 yeah. So I’m guessing the series s would have it as well. Thanks for telling me :)
Thanks for offering up the help CJ, much appreciated! : )
Hello Alistair,
Apologies for the slow reply: I believe the Typhoon is also available on the Xbox yes (and CJ would seem to confirm that), but I'm not 100% sure I'm afraid, not owning an Xbox myself.
I'm very happy to hear about your Mum's outcome. I hope you can all enjoy a great Christmas together! Best of luck with the dream, I can think of no better job ; )
All the best to you and the family!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thank you so much :) have a great Christmas and have a great day :)
I find it bobs in AP for some reason, can I fix that? Or is ap still a working progress
Hi Skyangels,
I'm afraid I can't give too much guidance there, since I haven't been able to try the release candidate of the product myself (I was only given an early access version). I would say that the aircraft is still somewhat of a work in progress and so the autopilot may well be refined in due course (the Asobo autopilot systems are still pretty flawed unfortunately, that tends to bring up issues with a lot of addons). Off the top of my head, it might be worth adjusting the weight / CofG and try flying at different speeds etc, but it's probably a question of mitigating the issue for now, as opposed to nullifying it altogether.
Sorry I can't be of more help on that one. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations no problem thanks for doing all you can to help put anyway! And yea sometimes in AP the eurofighter tends to have a hard time leveling itself. The way I fix it is I just turn ap off and back on again and sometimes that works, hopefully its all fixed with the recent update tho
My pleasure! Happy flying and all the best : )
Thank you for another great Video!
How does this one compare to the longer existing Bredok 3D Version of the Eurofighter?
As the Bredok products are always pretty basic, I was hoping that here comes a higher standard, but at the moment it doesn't seem so.
Never buy Bredoked products. I hope one day he gets a ban in the marketplace. I own the Eurofighter and Raptor, both are trash over 1000
Hello John,
You're most welcome on the video, my pleasure!
This version of the Typhoon is certainly considerably better than the Bredok3D one (I own both). The CJ Simulations Typhoon is still a "mid-tier" addon, but it's systems and flight modelling are a cut above the Bredok3D version, sounds are default, but decent enough, visually the addon could be better of course (internally at least). If I had to choose between the two, I would take the CJ Simulations version every time. There is actually *another* Typhoon coming out from India Foxt Echo also haha, so you might want to wait and see how that one stacks up against the competition. . .
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
So, I'm struggling to fly a P28 Warrior. I'm fighting the rudder and everything else to land in windy conditions. ATC keeps whining at me. I can't see the damn airstrip in time. The sweat is running off my forehead. And you want me to fly this???😂
Haha, well it's only a very speedy PA28 John. . . with some bombs strapped to the wings XD
What the difference between this 1 & the other? I have the 1st typhoon, 1 before the cj simulation 1
Hi CJ,
Apologies for the slow reply, I'm just catching up on my comments now.
This version of the Typhoon is certainly considerably better than the Bredok3D one (I own both). The CJ Simulations Typhoon is still a "mid-tier" addon, but it's systems and flight modelling are a cut above the Bredok3D version. Sounds are default, but decent enough, visually the addon could be better of course (internally at least). If I had to choose between the two, I would take the CJ Simulations version every time. There is actually another Typhoon coming out from India Foxt Echo also haha, so you might want to wait and see how that one stacks up against the competition. . .
I hope that helps a little. Cheers and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations helpful reply my friend🤝🏾 appreciate the insights
My pleasure! : )
I think this is the best Typhoon avaiable at the moment in MSFS, although I have had some strange erratic control issues at times, sometimes it randomly starts banking left, anyone else seen this? I am running the latest version.
Hello Kevin,
Is the weird banking happening as you slow the aircraft down for the approach? The Typhoon’s flight control logic, actually changes as one comes below a certain speed threshold (at least on the CJ Simulations version of the aircraft); the aircraft basically goes from FBW, to direct control and during the transition between the two modes, I find I get some weird control behaviours also. Do you think that might be what you’re experiencing?
Cheers, all the best!
I have seen it when I have climbed out of the loop a couple of times to about FL10!
Hmmm. I’m afraid, I’m really not sure what that could be then. . .
Why DC designs charge such exorbitant prices for such average modelled aircraft has always stumped me.
For better or worse, I suppose they charge what their customers are willing to pay Matt. For sure the Typhoon isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea, but I think dedicated simmers are looking for different thing's, vs the more casual MSFS crowd.
I certainly would like to see some improved texturing on the Typhoon (particularly internally), but DC Designs seem pretty confident with their sales numbers, so I suppose there's no impetus for them to drastically change what they're doing. . . Who knows though, perhaps as the sim matures and more addon come into MSFS, competition will drive general standards up (India Foxt Echo are also working on a Typhoon for example).
All the best!
I would rather there was a complete remake of DIDs EF2000. Failing that, it’s still the best dynamic campaign ever made for it and it still works when run through DOS box in Win 10
People are paying, right now, 25 euros for Deimos Gripen. Which is stunning, beautiful, 8K textures blablabla, but have civilian MSFS Garmin for avionics and fly like a plastic bottle.
Textures isn't everything. They need to improve on that but IFE F-35, while looking better, isn't the most interesting jet to fly. They put a lot of work on the avionics and the flight model (which is improving after every update)
IRL the canopy closure is accompanied by an insanely loud horn! Also, IRL the Typhoon Flaps/Slats are locked UP when the gear is down ie, not used for takeoff ar landing. Also, there is no trim! FBW auto trim. Not sure the flight model is that real!
Ah, well thanks very much for the info Jim! I guess CJ Simulations can be forgiven for the lack of horn haha, but based on what you have said, it does sound as though the manual and indeed the flight model is rather inaccurate in a couple of areas then. The manual states that the flaps / slats are managed automatically - I'm rather surprised they would be locked up for the takeoff, but there you go. It is also stated that the aircraft only auto-trims above a certain speed and that is what's modelled in the sim, but again this would be inaccurate behaviour based on your statements then.
Judging by your profile pic, you probably know far more than I do about these things haha!
Cheers again and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations The flap thing is due to the Delta wing. It doesnt need additional high lift devices when at high angles of attack. Same with the Vulcan and Concorde.
Ahh, of course, a bit of the old vortex lift? It’s been a while since my last aerodynamics class XD
Cheers!
Another great video and review but this time we know a Just Flight Typhoon is in the works so I will be waiting for that one to compare then decide which one deserves my money :) Also are we going to get a video from you on the India Foxtexho M346 Master ? Artful
Thank you very much sir, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
This is essentially the Just Flight Typhoon, since JF are marketing / publishing the product, but you're correct that another Typhoon is also in the works (from India Foxt Echo - so it should be good). As you say, no harm in waiting for the IFE Typhoon to release and then figuring out which one is the better buy : )
I would like to take a look at the IFE M346 and have been meaning to actually haha. It's really just a question of free time; if nothing else pops up within the coming days, I maaay get around to taking a look at the addon - no promises though I'm afraid ; )
Cheers for asking though. All the best!
Hi any weapons employment...Radar EO system etc....
Hi La Rata,
I’m afraid not. The DC Designs Typhoon is pretty “bare bones” in terms of weapons modelling (but that’s pretty typical in the sim in fairness). All you get is the visual representation of the weapons externally.
I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )
I got the game 2 days ago and am use to flying Fighter Jets but how do you turn on the ATC i can’t find it in setting or anywhere online so i cant start my flight I am on XBOX btw
Hello 40’s,
I’m afraid I’m not all that familiar with the console, so there’s only so much help I can offer up here.
Firstly, when you say you “can’t” start your flight, I presume you mean that you would rather run your flight using ATC? You should be able to fly just fine in MSFS, without using the default ATC system. In terms of troubleshooting, you’ll need to check your sound settings and also your text to speech settings; make sure that ATC (or whatever the appropriate setting is called) volume is turned all the way up and make sure you have text to speech turned on / set to “Azure”. You’ll then need to check which key press you have assigned to Open / Close ATC Window, otherwise you’ll need to select the ATC menu from the drop-down menu at the top of the screen. Lastly, if you’re using the Typhoon specifically, you’ll most likely need the electrical systems powered and the avionics switches turned on, before you’re able to call ATC.
I hope that helps a little? All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Still wont work i don’t get why microsoft doesnt have it auto turn on after aircraft starting up , thanks anyway
You’re most welcome on the reply!
There is actually an option in the settings menu (I’m afraid I can’t remember where exactly), to have the ATC window auto-open on loading into the flight.
Cheers : )
You’re most welcome on the reply!
There is actually an option in the settings menu (I’m afraid I can’t remember where exactly), to have the ATC window auto-open on loading into the flight.
Cheers : )
TMS F22 or Eurofighter. Witch one should i buy?
Hi Next Gen,
Overall the F-22 is a more polished product I would say. Graphically the Raptor wins by some margin, systems depth is broadly the same between the two addons, same for the sounds. I can’t attest to the accuracy of the flight models; the F-22 has a couple of nice tricks up its sleeve, but has a real problem with buffeting at high g, the Typhoon’s flight model feels slightly more plausible as a result. If it were me, between the F-22 and the CJ Simulations Typhoon, I’d probably go for the F-22 at the moment.
I hope that helps a little? All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes, thank you 👏
I am not a quick complainer and let me put it this way, if I were in the Air Force Procurement Office, this aircraft would not be in my Air Force.
This is not a fly-by-wire aircraft, it is the preliminary stage of a concept for me. Sorry, too much money for that.
That's fair enough Rainer. As I mentioned during the review, I know these sorts of products aren't going to be for everyone (many do enjoy them though and I don't mind taking a look at "the other end of the spectrum" from time to time). Hopefully by showcasing the product, it allows people to make an informed decision for themselves.
All the best! : )
I don't know why, because I don't have 'an accent' but my "Clear Prop!" is like a .wav file of ITBs. Can't get out of that habit. Hard to do in a jet, but from his other videos
Haha! Well, apologies for that Greg : P
I had an American viewer reach out a little while back; he was reading a book with a British character in it and apparently he kept hearing my voice when reading the characters lines - poor chap! XD
Cheers, all the best : )
Is it worth 24 quid?
Hi Jep,
Hard for me to say, as really that comes down to personal preference / what you thought based on the review. CJ Simulations has now added a custom soundset to the aircraft though and it’s pretty decent. Personally, whilst I like the Typhoon, I’d say that the Heatblur F-14 and the India Foxt Echo Tornado IDS, both offer up a much more detailed, realistic and enjoyable experience but for sure, CJ Simulations currently offer the best Typhoon option available for the sim.
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
What's going on with that HUD ? It's covering the screen? Anyone else notice that?
It represent that the HUD symbols are now projected into a helmet mounted sight, so is displayed wherever the pilot is looking.
Hi MS32,
It’s as JJ alludes to: The display is supposed to represent a HMD (Helmet Mounted Display). The HUD does also work correctly, as demonstrated earlier on in the video.
I hope that clarifies things. All the best : )
Thx for your detailed review. i like your honest and unbiased look at the product *sorry thats a google translation* At first i have to admit - I'm not really attracted to modern fighter jets in MSFS. I think it's not the right sim for the job. Also, I see a great lack of detail in the flight characteristics. At least i think there is. So not a purchase for me.
Thanks very much Ron. I certainly try my best to give a detailed and honest look at any addon I review, that way the viewer can decide for themself, whether or not a product is right for them. For sure MSFS is not the best sim for these sorts of aircraft and I know this sort of product isn't to everyone's tastes (I think most of my viewers prefer "study level" products, but personally I don't mind taking a look at "the other end of the spectrum" from time to time).
I'm glad the video was of use. Cheers and all the best! : )
Hello, what is the price for the aircraft
Hi Anthony,
The CJ Simulations Typhoon, costs around £35 (from memory). Exact pricing will depend on your home country, tax situation, currency etc.
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thank you
You’re most welcome! : )
It's the birds messing you're FPS.
Ahhh, you may well be onto something there Stuart! I did only install the birds recently, then again, I only started to notice the more stuttery performance post-SU10. I shall have to investigate further, but thanks very much for the pointer!
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations hi there, thanks for you're videos. I downloaded Great Britain North & Central along with the British Isles birds when I installed all three I immediately noticed an fps hit, to be honest I jamp straight to the conclusion it must be the orbx Britain North or Central so I uninstalled them both to find the FPS hit was still an issue so I uninstalled the British Isles Birds add on and got back my FPS. I think it's crazy the how that add on affects profromance so much compared to others, so it may very well need better optimisation into the sim. All the best and looking forward to the next video.
Thank again for the review. The first words of the video were enough for me to decide if I want to buy the product or not: DC Design a clear no. graphics are sub standard as always and the the whole plane is too simple for me. Look at the f14 how poorly the 3d model and the textures are. He has no intentions or abilities to make the f14 good but instead let’s push another fun flyer with poor system, graphics and textures. I wonder why somebody with poor texture abilities pushed so many poor liveries in the store. Sadly fighter jets are mostly not well made in MSFS. The only exception is maybe the Hawk T1.
A clear No for the typhoon.
angry rant over :)
Hi Michael,
Haha, feel free to rant as much as you like; any and all opinions are welcome here!
I'm glad the video helped you to make an informed decision. I don't mind the systems simplicity of the DC Designs aircraft, as that is somewhat based around the target audience, but I agree that texture improvements are needed on most of their products. DC Designs has actually taken on a new texture artist, so let's see what comes of that (I believe the F-4 should be the first DC Designs addon done to the "new and improved" standard).
I can certainly see why these sorts of addons miss the mark for a lot of people (they aren't the sort of addons I generally fly myself in the sim, but I do enjoy taking a look at them and having a quick blast around), but there are many casual simmers that do enjoy them. As you say, fast jets are not a strong point in MSFS currently (though I do love the Hawk and the F-104 is pretty entertaining also) and DCS runs rings around anything available within Microsoft Flight Simulator.
Cheers for your thoughts. All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Not only is a texture designer needed also a 3D artist could help. I found so many badly mofelnd areas around the plane it’s crazy. The light are painted instead of modelled, there is a gap left and right of the cockpit giving you perfekt few on the world around you.
But I ha e to admit I still like to fly it and especially IFR but I guess tthats because of the F14 and what it does to me in my head :)
Let’s hope the F14 gets the love it deserves one day.
Cheers
Michael
Well, I think it may have been someone that can do both texturing and modelling in fairness, though I’m not 100% sure on that.
As you say, hopefully the F-14 and indeed the entire DC Designs lineup get some more love - DC does now how to make some enjoyable aircraft at the end of the day.
Cheers! : )
If IndiaFoxtEcho are smart. They'll release a news update on their Typhoon.
I will be waiting for their version. I personally prefer their planes. They mentioned other companies plans for releasing planes have no bearing on when they release theirs. They take their time and are not interested in being first to release.
@@johnwicks4936 I'm completely fine with that & don't mind waiting. It's just be nice to have a rough idea of when it's coming, this year or next.
That probably would be an astute business move haha. I haven't seen much in the way of information on IFE's Typhoon, but I've no doubt it will be a very nice product overall. I'm looking forward to IFE's effort and it will be interesting to compare the two products when the time comes. . .
Cheers Dave : )
I would certainly agree with you there John - always preferable when a dev takes their time and releases a product only when it is actually ready for the prime time. Sadly, fewer and fewer devs actually seem to be doing this. . .
I'm a real pilot!
Very nice, James. What do you fly? : )
Off topic, But Sunderland council are a disgrace for cancelling the airshows due to 'Climate change'
Pffft, what tosh! The same as Formula 1 cancelling flypasts at races. . . don't even get me started on that one ha.
Sorry to hear that you've lost your airshow though. I'm sure we've all been saved from oblivion as a result : /
Great video , I think I’m Gina purchase it , can’t you tell me are you on Xbox , and how do you record the flight and change camera
Thanks very much Baz, glad you enjoyed it!
I’m not on the Xbox so, I don’t know whether this will be useful info or not but, I use a 3rd-party recording tool for recording the external sections: flightsim.to/file/8163/flight-recorder and then Shadowplay to record the actual video. For camera controls, I’m afraid I can’t really elaborate on that but, there are some great tutorials here on RUclips.
I hope that helps and that you’re having fun with the Typhoon! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thank for reply , I got the typhoons it’s great 👍🏻
You’re most welcome! Happy flying : )
It’s still so disappointing that they cannot make the afterburners look more realistic. IFT’s look great, Asobo’s look great, even Bredok got that part right…
The afterburners could indeed use some work Jay (although they perhaps look a little better, than the angles shown in this video would suggest). I gather DC Designs will be using new / improved methods for the modelling of their F4 and will then be revamping their past addons with the same methods thereafter; so hopefully we'll see some improvements to the Typhoon and the rest of their output at a later date.
Cheers, all the best!
msfs2020 got the eurofighter typhoon before DCS XD
Haha, it did TT. In fact, quite likely MSFS will have 3 of them before one arrives in DCS! XD
I think the DCS Typhoon will be worth the wait though ; )
unrealistic. they mostly don't fly and are broken at least in germany!
Haha! Well CJ Simulations could model that I suppose Alfder, but it might not make for a very fun addon XD
All the best!
The Typhoon has foreplanes, no canards.
Hi Finn,
What makes you say that? Not to say that you’re wrong (it’s entirely possible you know something I don’t), but I would have said they’re the very definition of canards and certainly a lot of online resources seem to suggest that’s what they’re referred to as on the Typhoon?
If you’re a Typhoon pilot or engineer etc, then I stand corrected though haha.
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I‘m not a Pilot or an Engineer (but my dad was an Aircraft Mechanic back in the days for the Panavia Tornado) these are the words of Gero Finke, Former Commodore of the german Tactical Airforce Wing 71 „Richthofen“, and also a former Eurofighter Typhoon Pilot and Flight Instructor. According to him the foreplanes are inverse. You can observe that yourself when you pull the stick. If you want to pitch up the foreplanes go down and vice versa. The Eurofighter is built in a maximum instable configuration, without the foreplanes the EF2000 would tumble.
Oh and BTW the Eurofighter will be introduced into DCS World in the near Future. Only a Tranche 1 but with modern weaponry including IRIS-T and the MBDA Meteor.
@@finnm.2582 was my understanding canards operate individually and control roll. foreplanes are as a pair and control pitch only.
I seriously have to stop spending money on junk products.. and the Typhoon is no exception. I found this plane quite disappointing especially for a Just Flight marketed product.
The extremes in the quality of modelling and textures across the plane from good to bad is amazing and the cockpit is downright awful. And comparting it to the Sim Skunk Works Fiat G91 and the Starfighters, this Typhoon feels like it should be a third the price or freeware from Flightsim.to.. And how hard is it to make a decent afterburner effect!? I think I am going to ask for a full refund.
The TF104G is unoptimized trash, still can't get above 10,000 ft after last product update over 5 months ago which claimed to fix the bug. SSW has very poor customer service with regards to they're products.
Hello Alex,
I'm sorry to hear that you weren't satisfied with the product. The quality of the modelling / texturing is indeed quite variable across the addon, which I agree is a shame. DC Designs have stated that their upcoming F4 will be done to a new graphical standard and that their previous line-up will be updated to the same quality thereafter; exactly what that entails remains to be seen, but hopefully the visuals will be brought up the sort of standards we expect within MSFS.
I do hope you managed to get a refund, if requested. All the best!
Indeed Stuart, I don't know what has happened to Sim Skunk Works, but they seem to have gone AWOL and left their products with some pretty major issues that still need fixing up. I do hope they come back and fix the addons, as I was enjoying the F-104's whilst they were working correctly.
All the best!
i like ypur channel but I would like to see an improvement in angles and cinematpgraphy.. your zoom angles are not good..
Hi Andres,
Thanks very much for the feedback. What is it specifically that you don't like about the zoom angles? I know that some don't like the fact that I use such close-up shots of the addons, but personally I find it's preferable as 1) it allows the viewer to see the addon in more detail and 2) I feel it gives the addon more "presence", rather than it looking a bit like a toy. I'm a little surprised that you bring up the cinematography in general, as most people seem to enjoy that aspect of the channel and indeed, I think I put more effort into the visuals of my videos than is typical.
None of the above is to say that you're wrong, I'm just trying to clarify things from my side and once again I do (always) appreciate the feedback : )
I'm glad you're otherwise enjoying the content. Thanks very much for watching and all the best!
I guess this is the Brexit version :-)
Haha, I guess it is now GDW, yes XD
Another rushed effort from DC. How about sorting out the F14 textures. ?
Hi Noel,
I agree that it would be nice to see further progress on some of the DC Designs back-catalogue. I don't own the F-14 myself, but indeed most of the line-up could use some work on texturing and I had hoped Concorde might have seen further improvements by now. . .
All the best!
Haha, why even develop these things if it's just in the msfs engine where it can't use its fangs, no enemies to dogfight, can't bvr, use radar, etc, basically nothing it is built for.
Better to just get a Learjet at this point, no? :D
Well, I think it just comes down to "to each his own" Schimml0rd. I can certainly see where you're coming from, but some people definitely enjoy this sort of stuff in the sim. Personally, it's not the sort of aircraft I spend a lot of time in MSFS with (I very much enjoy DCS for the sort of thing you mention), but of course MSFS has the somewhat unique property, of allowing one to fly anywhere in the world and also, these aircraft still spend a significant amount of their flying time *not* fighting.
As I say, it's just "horses for courses" I reckon.
Cheers, all the best! : )
A Typhoon doesn't have flaps
True enough I suppose JJ haha. My wording was as per the checklist, but I agree that it was incorrect.
All the best : )
Sorry aber der Eurofighter sieht einfach bescheiden aus und fliegt sich auch komplett Unrealistisch. Dazu kommt das man sich einfach keine Mühe gegeben hat und nur einfach versucht auf dem einfachsten weg Geld zu verdienen. Alleine die Texturen sind schlimm .Auf den ersten Blick ok..aber ich meine für was haben wir einen FSX Nachfolger der Grafisch soviel bietet und man sich dann nicht die mühe macht und wirklich das heraus holt was Grafisch immerhin möglich ist. Ich spreche hier bewusst nicht von der Systemtiefe, da die ja zum grössten Teil unter Verschluss ist.
11 Sqn
Indeed Simon : )
Piss poor update 2023...........
Thanks for the review, not for me though.
Thanks again Peter! I realise these sorts of products might not be to everyone's tastes, but hopefully the review still allows for people to make an informed decision (and being a Typhoon, I was keen to see for myself what the product had to offer).
Cheers : )
I’m trying to find the raf base on the map so I can try Mac loop can you tell me what it’s called please , I’m new to Microsoft flight so sorry iff I sound stupid
Hi Baz,
In this flight, I departed from RAF Valley (EGOV), which is (I believe) where most Mach Loop flights would depart from. RAF Valley is located on the island of Anglesey. It’s a bit old now but, if you want a guide to the Mach Loop, I did make a video on it (departing from Aberporth, instead of RAF Valley): ruclips.net/video/WBQb7xh1ulk/видео.htmlsi=6XC0lcW5ji-jeTCw
I hope that helps a little. All the best!
DC Designs? No thanks. Not after Concorde. Never again.
CJ Simulations not DC Designs ?
This isn’t dc designs it’s cj simulations dc designs only made the livery’s that’s it
@@commander_shadow2444 he said DC designs was involved and is comparable to other DC designs offerings ie. It's probably garbo imo
Just a point of order for you all. This is a joint venture between CJS and DCD. DCD done far more than just liveries. If it's not for you that's cool, but all DCD add-ons have had several updates applied since release and literally thousands of simmers are out there flying and enjoying there add-ons. Not just saying that, it's a fact. The target audience isn't those who want top study level add-ons and they're the first to admit that. Not every add-on has to be built for that. This and the other planes they developed are a whole load of fun whilst retaining a lot of simulation aspects and with the addition of Codename Jack for this add-on you can (if you ever chose to) expect some top quality features and coding. Thanks for your interest.
@@justflight we want it to be on the level of your Hawk. I think the Hawk is excellent, in and out... can't say the same for this Tiffy...
Fun doesnt mean "Flight Simulation"! It means arcade type flight! Impossible physics. 15 G plus (like the Mavrick movie) XBox type flight. Zoom and Zoom! Whooopee! For kids! Graphics are low res! DCS are higher! Whats the point if it isnt a realistic flight model? Not my hope for MSFS advanced features! Not for me. Just my 2 penneth! Sorry!
Haha, well I think we've already "agreed to disagree", that both fun and flight simulation can have their place in MSFS David, without one harming the other ; )
The Typhoon's flight model is far from perfect at the moment, but I wouldn't describe it as being an "arcade" one personally (mid-tier perhaps). I would have to agree with you on the graphics though - fun or otherwise, I would have expected better things within MSFS.
There is a Typhoon coming to DCS also and no doubt that is going to be the best option for those who like to take their simming seriously (and it's an addon I am very much looking forward to myself).
Horses for courses as always. I had some fun with the addon; it's not necessarily a product I would buy personally, but I know that many others are enjoying it : )
Cheers as always!
Boring just bring true delta like the M2000
nice review sir
Thank you very much Steve, I’m glad you enjoyed it : )
All the best!