There is actually three. Fight flight and freeze. If you feel scared or in danger you may freeze and do literally nothing. in your head you know you’re supposed to do something but maybe you don’t. You’ll sit and think ‘why am I not moving’ or ‘what can’t I move’ it’s scarier than the danger.
Reminds me of the time I heard my dad on the top stairway when I having some me time and I froze. Like I couldn't move. He just stood there doing who knows what and then walked down stairs. Thank god he didn't open my door
But isn't the "freeze" just the result of the conflict between fight and flight? When fight or flight are equally strong, we end up panicking and doing nothing constructive. I.e., a 'panic attack'.
"Return to calm state?" Hell no. Not immediately after the response. It uses up all reserved energy and it takes me days and hours of sleep to get back to baseline.
well when my fight or flight kicks in i can't think i can't talk. and i twitch when i am sitting still every once in a while during the stressful event
Why fight or flight is a FEAR response, not a STRESS response It is a fact that our voluntarily and involuntary muscles are driven by our emotions, particularly when we are afraid or fearful. This ‘flight or fight’ response, or as it is known today as ‘flight fight freezing system’, or FFFS makes your heart race, your internal organs shut down, and primes your muscles to act to defend yourself, or else run for the hills. On the other hand, the simple tensions that occur when we find it hard to make up our minds activate the postural musculature alone, a simple response that shares little in common with the complex neurological and muscular reactions which comprise fear. In other words, see a spider far away and our postural muscles will move because we think, but see a spider on your nose, and all your muscles and a whole lot more will move because we fear. Do these separate instances correspond to the same neurological causes? Of course not. In both cases, you are avoiding the spider, and yet in each case your physiological responses are distinctively different not only in degree but also in kind. Moreover, in the former case your behavior is driven because you think, and in the latter, it is because you are in fear. The former is due to cortical processes, and the latter is due to more primitive neural processes, centered in the midbrain, that govern the emotion of fear. This is a very simple distinction, verified conceptually as well as empirically (see appendix of linked book for academic sources), but it has not been explained well or has even been entertained in the copious academic and popular estimate of stress. So, our daily stresses and anxieties are distinctive from our fears. They are indeed separate emotions. It is a remarkable fact that we’ve got stress figured out all wrong. Our hard-wired fear responses are responses to threat, not choice, and are governed by different neurological processes from those cortically based processes that underscore anxiety or tension. Secondly, neuromuscular tension due to choice conflict only activates the postural musculature, and the global changes in physiological activity, from a racing heart, hormonal changes, to enhanced alertness, vasodilation, hyperventilation, etc. simply are not characteristic of tension elicited by conflicted thought. Both muscular tension and relaxation are ultimately functions of the relationship rather than content of our choices. From my open source book on the neuroscience of resting states, ‘The Book of Rest’, linked below. www.scribd.com/doc/284056765/The-Book-of-Rest-The-Odd-Psychology-of-Doing-Nothing This above book is based on the research of the distinguished neuroscientist Kent Berridge of the University of Michigan, a preeminent researcher and authority on the neuroscience of motivation, who was kind to vet the work for accuracy and endorse the finished manuscript. Berridge’s Site sites.lsa.umich.edu/berridge-lab/ also: Meditation and Rest from the International Journal of Stress Management, by this author www.scribd.com/doc/121345732/Relaxation-and-Muscular-Tension-A-bio-behavioristic-explanation
One can get a Backscan with a Tytron 5000 thermography scanner which gives you a picture of the spine and informs you that you are in a Fight Or Flight pattern. Simple, harmless, and reliable. And inexpensive. Try it:)
Hi, thank u for the video! I have a question: why the ''fight'' mechanism doesn't help us to confront a demanding situation such as the upcoming exams for example? Why don't activate us as it would if someone attacked to us?
Stress - or anxiety - is a more subtle form of response than a full-fat survival reaction. Let me give you two examples familiar to me. 1. Motorcycle riding - on a race track This is a good example of a real-life situation that triggers full-fat survival reactions. As you barrel into a corner too fast, your brain tells you: err, this is a problem. Slow down! That's the physiological response kicking in, as you reach (without thinking) for the brake. Problem is, it's the wrong thing to do! The physics of a bike are that the front contact patch (where rubber meets road) is smaller than the rear. So optimum grip comes from balanced weight front and rear, or better: slight acceleration. Braking shifts weight forward, with the risk of losing grip or running wide and off the track. So the "right" thing to do is actually accelerate gently. You have to do that, whilst feeling scared! But with practice, the fear is replaced with familiarity... you know it works, so it no longer triggers your fear. 2. A project that I'm finding hard - avoidance mode! This is different. There is no immediate danger that triggers survival behaviour. Just an underlying level of anxiety, which is draining. You probably tense up, so there IS a physical reaction. You may not realise it though: it could be a subtle tension in the neck or back, or in some other part of your posture. You don't feel relaxed. You only feel it when the tension builds to a point it causes pain. This is closer to the sort of exam situation you talked about. I've just come back from a freediving trip with my brother Mike Board. He's the British champion and world number five: his record is 111 metres, on one breath! I learned from him the mindset he uses to achieve the flow state, through a relaxed body combined with a focused mind. You can watch my video essay on my channel if interested!
Ultracloud Talking about survivor instincts why am I more easily triggered (disturbed) when I’m thinking/planning as opposed to acting naturally/spontaneously ??
Hi, great video explaining the FFF. I am a polygraph examiner and always explain the FFF process. This is a video that i can show during my interview. But one thing, how about the sweat release activity? Is there a video that also includes that response?
In 6th grade i was part of the basketball team and we're playing against this really petty team who's purposely faking injuries to get free throws. I dont remember her number but this one girl kept being overly aggressive with my team and I. I kept my cool till the 4th period but the events leading up to the beat down went something like this. We're all running to the other side of the court and she's behind me and when she gets the ball and she says something to me like,"you better stay out of my way!" This just makes me angry but I deal with it. Then we get back to the other side of the court and we're in a line waiting for the ball to be passed back in and then it does and she rams right into me but I deal with it. But then she does it again and at that moment I felt the adrenaline and anger. I only remember getting 3 punches in while she tries to run away screaming(I was told later i had ahold of her hair or jersey I cant remember), I dont even think the ref wanted to break it and he only did it cause he had to. I was also told I made her bleed but I honestly dont care nor regret what I did to her.
I was almost in a car accident. I did not freeze... but, everything slowed down...in my perception, even though this probably happened fast .... and the accident was avoided. Is this FF?
I remember a while back, I got in a fight because someone tried to bully me, all the sudden my right arm felt light as a feather and before I could stop it I had already nocked out the person trying to bully me, I wasn’t even thinking on punching him but it just felt like my arms moved by themselves that even I got scared of it, any explanation plz?
Yoooo that’s so relatable like once a time I was playing with some one and that guy would always foul everyone ( including me) and he even elbowed my liver after that he like number me again in the game and my arms felt light and my hands turned to fist automatically and it punched him in the nose- mouth area and he went bleeding and even I was like “yo what happened” for like 20 seconds lol like when I punched him it didn’t feel like I punched him by my choice it was like my body just decided to punch him so I guess yea that could be FF response anyways you did good to punch the bully and I bet it hurried too because it came with surprise lol
GlenT Dettman similar situation but I was in a dog park (because of my family) and a dog came near me (I was scared of dogs at the time don’t judge me) and I RAN so fast you couldn’t keep your eyes on me however that drew the attention of more dogs in the park and then they all started chasing me mind you I was screaming my head off there was a dog owner being dragged through the mud by their big Rottweiler chasing me four other small dogs who were also chasing me and me running around the place as well as my dad and his co-workers staring at me like I’ve went bonkers. I-..I think I’ll end it there
Once I was playing octopus, and the it person was chasing me. Then, my fight or flight response got activated and I started running very fast. Unfortunately, I ran out of the boundaries.
I’d like to know too. I’ve been in it at least 4 years and it’s causing me severe physical pain now. Check out the TMS Mind Body Theory. It’s imperative that you get back to parasympathetic response
So the brain misinterprets other people’s slight quick hand movements as a threat so we then become high alert which makes us self-conscious and also increases activity in the brain which can deplete our energy? Is that how we are affected by stimuli?
What if there is a constant source of agitating factors caused by someone and you can't get out? Would fighing be the appropriate response since you have no choice? Being as though most law enforcement agencies are corrupt and tend to cater to conflicts of interest forgetting the laws that protect individuals in the U.S.
If a dog comes running at me. Imma going to run towards it and growl, it would probably go away but if it doesn't... I'm going to bite, scratch, and *KICK* until it either gives up or dies. i mean... self-defense?
Umm baybe the dog is tryna play .... If it's a trained dog it most likely just thinks you're playing . Btw dogs are strong so i would advise you to NOT fight .unless it's biting you and it's a life or death situation .
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There is actually three. Fight flight and freeze. If you feel scared or in danger you may freeze and do literally nothing. in your head you know you’re supposed to do something but maybe you don’t. You’ll sit and think ‘why am I not moving’ or ‘what can’t I move’ it’s scarier than the danger.
True. This happened when I was younger and a man was outside my window. I went to scream but nothing came out
Freeze is an opposite reaction than fight or flight. Instead of alerting your body and using energy, freeze shuts down your body and conserves energy.
Reminds me of the time I heard my dad on the top stairway when I having some me time and I froze. Like I couldn't move. He just stood there doing who knows what and then walked down stairs. Thank god he didn't open my door
@oh there’s actually four; fight, flight, freeze, fawn.
But isn't the "freeze" just the result of the conflict between fight and flight? When fight or flight are equally strong, we end up panicking and doing nothing constructive. I.e., a 'panic attack'.
When my mom was being beaten up by my stepdad my fight or flight when off so I started fighting my stepdad while on the call with 911
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did he die of guilt?
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"Return to calm state?" Hell no. Not immediately after the response. It uses up all reserved energy and it takes me days and hours of sleep to get back to baseline.
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The fight or flight system is basically a power
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This is the best simplified version i have seen to date. Thank you
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When your making a documentation on odd things so you learn about fight or flight response but just end up getting a class lesson during break-
This video was so helpful, Thank you so much.
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well when my fight or flight kicks in i can't think i can't talk. and i twitch when i am sitting still every once in a while during the stressful event
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Why fight or flight is a FEAR response, not a STRESS response
It is a fact that our voluntarily and involuntary muscles are driven by our emotions, particularly when we are afraid or fearful. This ‘flight or fight’ response, or as it is known today as ‘flight fight freezing system’, or FFFS makes your heart race, your internal organs shut down, and primes your muscles to act to defend yourself, or else run for the hills. On the other hand, the simple tensions that occur when we find it hard to make up our minds activate the postural musculature alone, a simple response that shares little in common with the complex neurological and muscular reactions which comprise fear. In other words, see a spider far away and our postural muscles will move because we think, but see a spider on your nose, and all your muscles and a whole lot more will move because we fear. Do these separate instances correspond to the same neurological causes? Of course not. In both cases, you are avoiding the spider, and yet in each case your physiological responses are distinctively different not only in degree but also in kind.
Moreover, in the former case your behavior is driven because you think, and in the latter, it is because you are in fear. The former is due to cortical processes, and the latter is due to more primitive neural processes, centered in the midbrain, that govern the emotion of fear. This is a very simple distinction, verified conceptually as well as empirically (see appendix of linked book for academic sources), but it has not been explained well or has even been entertained in the copious academic and popular estimate of stress. So, our daily stresses and anxieties are distinctive from our fears. They are indeed separate emotions.
It is a remarkable fact that we’ve got stress figured out all wrong. Our hard-wired fear responses are responses to threat, not choice, and are governed by different neurological processes from those cortically based processes that underscore anxiety or tension. Secondly, neuromuscular tension due to choice conflict only activates the postural musculature, and the global changes in physiological activity, from a racing heart, hormonal changes, to enhanced alertness, vasodilation, hyperventilation, etc. simply are not characteristic of tension elicited by conflicted thought. Both muscular tension and relaxation are ultimately functions of the relationship rather than content of our choices.
From my open source book on the neuroscience of resting states, ‘The Book of Rest’, linked below.
www.scribd.com/doc/284056765/The-Book-of-Rest-The-Odd-Psychology-of-Doing-Nothing
This above book is based on the research of the distinguished neuroscientist Kent Berridge of the University of Michigan, a preeminent researcher and authority on the neuroscience of motivation, who was kind to vet the work for accuracy and endorse the finished manuscript.
Berridge’s Site
sites.lsa.umich.edu/berridge-lab/
also:
Meditation and Rest
from the International Journal of Stress Management, by this author
www.scribd.com/doc/121345732/Relaxation-and-Muscular-Tension-A-bio-behavioristic-explanation
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One can get a Backscan with a Tytron 5000 thermography scanner which gives you a picture of the spine and informs you that you are in a Fight Or Flight pattern. Simple, harmless, and reliable. And inexpensive. Try it:)
Hi, thank u for the video! I have a question: why the ''fight'' mechanism doesn't help us to confront a demanding situation such as the upcoming exams for example? Why don't activate us as it would if someone attacked to us?
Well that is most likely stress and not a jump scare. You can’t fight a test paper.
Stress - or anxiety - is a more subtle form of response than a full-fat survival reaction. Let me give you two examples familiar to me.
1. Motorcycle riding - on a race track
This is a good example of a real-life situation that triggers full-fat survival reactions. As you barrel into a corner too fast, your brain tells you: err, this is a problem. Slow down! That's the physiological response kicking in, as you reach (without thinking) for the brake.
Problem is, it's the wrong thing to do! The physics of a bike are that the front contact patch (where rubber meets road) is smaller than the rear. So optimum grip comes from balanced weight front and rear, or better: slight acceleration. Braking shifts weight forward, with the risk of losing grip or running wide and off the track.
So the "right" thing to do is actually accelerate gently. You have to do that, whilst feeling scared! But with practice, the fear is replaced with familiarity... you know it works, so it no longer triggers your fear.
2. A project that I'm finding hard - avoidance mode!
This is different. There is no immediate danger that triggers survival behaviour. Just an underlying level of anxiety, which is draining.
You probably tense up, so there IS a physical reaction. You may not realise it though: it could be a subtle tension in the neck or back, or in some other part of your posture. You don't feel relaxed. You only feel it when the tension builds to a point it causes pain.
This is closer to the sort of exam situation you talked about.
I've just come back from a freediving trip with my brother Mike Board. He's the British champion and world number five: his record is 111 metres, on one breath!
I learned from him the mindset he uses to achieve the flow state, through a relaxed body combined with a focused mind. You can watch my video essay on my channel if interested!
Ultracloud Talking about survivor instincts why am I more easily triggered (disturbed) when I’m thinking/planning as opposed to acting naturally/spontaneously ??
Hi, great video explaining the FFF. I am a polygraph examiner and always explain the FFF process. This is a video that i can show during my interview. But one thing, how about the sweat release activity? Is there a video that also includes that response?
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In 6th grade i was part of the basketball team and we're playing against this really petty team who's purposely faking injuries to get free throws. I dont remember her number but this one girl kept being overly aggressive with my team and I. I kept my cool till the 4th period but the events leading up to the beat down went something like this.
We're all running to the other side of the court and she's behind me and when she gets the ball and she says something to me like,"you better stay out of my way!" This just makes me angry but I deal with it. Then we get back to the other side of the court and we're in a line waiting for the ball to be passed back in and then it does and she rams right into me but I deal with it. But then she does it again and at that moment I felt the adrenaline and anger. I only remember getting 3 punches in while she tries to run away screaming(I was told later i had ahold of her hair or jersey I cant remember), I dont even think the ref wanted to break it and he only did it cause he had to. I was also told I made her bleed but I honestly dont care nor regret what I did to her.
Wow you all have great stories
I was almost in a car accident. I did not freeze... but, everything slowed down...in my perception, even though this probably happened fast .... and the accident was avoided.
Is this FF?
Yeah could be just google it
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Why does the fight mode make me compulsively raise my voice and push out sound so everyone to hear?
As Arnold would say, 'we need MOAR energy'
Could that perhaps a reference to the 2012 epic created by David Prodution following the story of the Joestar Lineage?
I remember a while back, I got in a fight because someone tried to bully me, all the sudden my right arm felt light as a feather and before I could stop it I had already nocked out the person trying to bully me, I wasn’t even thinking on punching him but it just felt like my arms moved by themselves that even I got scared of it, any explanation plz?
Yoooo that’s so relatable like once a time I was playing with some one and that guy would always foul everyone ( including me) and he even elbowed my liver after that he like number me again in the game and my arms felt light and my hands turned to fist automatically and it punched him in the nose- mouth area and he went bleeding and even I was like “yo what happened” for like 20 seconds lol like when I punched him it didn’t feel like I punched him by my choice it was like my body just decided to punch him so I guess yea that could be FF response anyways you did good to punch the bully and I bet it hurried too because it came with surprise lol
Maybe cuz the body clasifys the bully as a threat
prob adrenaline
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Helpful thanks a dog came out of no where and started chasing me then I got the adrenaline and surprisingly out ran the dog
GlenT Dettman similar situation but I was in a dog park (because of my family) and a dog came near me (I was scared of dogs at the time don’t judge me) and I RAN so fast you couldn’t keep your eyes on me however that drew the attention of more dogs in the park and then they all started chasing me mind you I was screaming my head off there was a dog owner being dragged through the mud by their big Rottweiler chasing me four other small dogs who were also chasing me and me running around the place as well as my dad and his co-workers staring at me like I’ve went bonkers. I-..I think I’ll end it there
Once I was playing octopus, and the it person was chasing me. Then, my fight or flight response got activated and I started running very fast. Unfortunately, I ran out of the boundaries.
The body is simply robots created by god
My question is how long a body can remain in fight flight response???I'm in this response for a year now
I’d like to know too. I’ve been in it at least 4 years and it’s causing me severe physical pain now. Check out the TMS Mind Body Theory. It’s imperative that you get back to parasympathetic response
It depend on how chill you are
Sympathetic nervous system is activated by HPA axis?
My friend: fight or flight?
Me: WELL WHY NOT BOTH?
Is it possible that a person can be in fight mode high blood pressure and increased sensory perception even while being asleep
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Starved
Is this a genetic trait passed throughout the homosapien species?
I think it is.if not we would have died by now
Geez haven't seen the humans from miles! ????? must've been working overtime!
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So the brain misinterprets other people’s slight quick hand movements as a threat so we then become high alert which makes us self-conscious and also increases activity in the brain which can deplete our energy?
Is that how we are affected by stimuli?
If i see one more Starved reference im going to loose it
Seems like that bucket of bolts had to lay off the nitro this time around. Hey redhead! Might wanna repair your toys.
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If you are the person who saw me wobbly running up that escalator filled with people no you didn’t
Yes I did . Jk lol
In summary...you go caveman! You fight good!
Is there something in the brain called tombola?
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Actually i choose freeze
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What if there is a constant source of agitating factors caused by someone and you can't get out? Would fighing be the appropriate response since you have no choice? Being as though most law enforcement agencies are corrupt and tend to cater to conflicts of interest forgetting the laws that protect individuals in the U.S.
Wrong... it is freeze, fight or flight.
No fight or flight?
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If a dog comes running at me. Imma going to run towards it and growl, it would probably go away but if it doesn't...
I'm going to bite, scratch, and *KICK* until it either gives up or dies.
i mean... self-defense?
Umm baybe the dog is tryna play .... If it's a trained dog it most likely just thinks you're playing . Btw dogs are strong so i would advise you to NOT fight .unless it's biting you and it's a life or death situation .
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