I let my 4WD get STOLEN...
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- Опубликовано: 1 мар 2024
- What happens when your 4x4 Gets Stolen? How do you stop your car from being stolen? Today we are testing all the techniques, from simple methods to ward off thieves to kill switch to stop the car from starting, to advanced technological GPS trackers, and even Air Tags & Tiles. What works? what doesn't? and we even show a method to shut the car down after its been successfully stolen.
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Sooo you can make it to the pub but it won't start again. Sounds ideal. 😂😂
I literally parked opposite to where it stopped went to pub for a drink and needed to be towed lol
A manual gearbox will stop most people.
You say that but they still try and will destroy the gearbox in the process which is what happened to my car
😂 so true best antitheft
@@jacksonwelch9870u missed the joke bruh. The jist of it is that nearly everyone drives automatics these days and don't get their manual licenses.
@@krump743cos its too hard 🥺
It's become very difficult to find a semi new 4WD with a manual in it nowadays, Auto is easier to secure than a manual, just put a switch either manual or remote operated on the transmission park switch, so the car thinks the transmission is in gear, the engine management won't even try to start the car.
I'm a 60yo that has seen and done a lot of things, all over Oz. You young fellas are priceless! So many offroad concepts and experiences through trial and error hands on learning. I have commented here a couple of times before and you 2 are just getting better and better. AND even though your presentation is educated and classy, you are still a pair of what i think are classic Aussies, minus the apex bogan factor. I'm so rapt! Good on you both. 👏 JT from WA.
Thanks JT!! That really means alot mate!! We appreciate the support!! Cheers
I had to break into my 79 yesterday because someone (not me I swear) locked the keys inside. It was in a car park and I'm there prying the door open with screwdrivers and trying to get to the door lock with a bit of wire and no one cared. People parking next to me and walking past didn't even ask what was going on etc.
So yes - these mods are essential! Thanks for the video!
had this happen when I was in my rodeo. No one give a Jack that your trying to break in
No worries! we spend all this time & money on our 4bies so it's good piece of mind knowing where they are!
I was once driving along Parramatta Rd, Rooty Hill & saw a couple of guys trying to prior a door, I stopped, got a bit of wire, assisted and got them in.
They were so thankful, I drove off and then thought to myself, "I didn't even ask if it was their car", probably assisted with cars theft, haha!
Live & learn, never repeated that again, always ask now!!
Was in the business district of town, chap trying to get into his old ute, keys on front seat.
I gets my axe out, guy comes running over and says "Stop, I've gotta video this".
He thought I was gonna put axe through window.
No, I used the axe head to push between door and panel, then utilised it's leverage creating a huge gap for the guy to feed wire in and trip lock inside.
Old mate than ran over wanting to video the axe wheeling was disappointed, haha that was so funny.
PADDY POWERFISH, I'd know that thief anywhere.
I like the transfer case idea, never thought of that. I think a kill switch is still a good idea, all these modern cars are getting taken using high tech, a laptop can't physically flick a manual switch.
Nice video guys. If you put the fuel cut off closer to the engine it will work better. 200m is plenty to get a car into the back of a truck or onto a trailer then you car is gone. My kill switch cuts power to the injectors which is awesome. Keep up the good work
Another great video lads.
I've had kill switches on nearly all my cars, having started driving with some desirable street machines. First car - HQ wagon - was saved by a switch down the side of the seat which isolated the auto park/neutral sensor. Second - ZF Fairlane - was also saved by a switch down the side of the seat isolating the electric fuel pump.
Nowdays I'm relying on the factory isolation - "Key fob not detected". Can't even leave the dog in the car without the alarm going off.
One thing I want to say, is on the new common rails, running them out of fuel could cause damage to the fuel system. Just might want to mention the potential damage
??????... theres no fuel in them before they start them when there new.. plus, if its diesel, ITS OIL.. stay home, dont go out, turn the lite off..
@@harrywalker968 you mean that first time they start them when they have a fuel pump to prime the system so as to not starve the engine? That first time?
The injectors wouldn't run the rail dry though since they need quite a bit of pressure to fire, and when the rail isn't getting enough fuel the pressure will drop to a point where the injectors wont operate? I assume anyway. Still wouldn't want to test it on my diesel.
My thoughts as well, a fuel shut off is the last thing i would use.
Good topic and glad u showing all different types of devices. And done it well
Car anti-theft solutions has sure come a long way since the hidden kill switches & steering wheel bar locks of the past. If looking to utilise tag style tracking, I'd recommend having both an Apple AirTag and one for Android OS too - Samsung has one. That way, it covers you for both phone OS. The transfer case tip is something I've never thought of. Thanks for that. Another informative and entertaining video boys. 👍
Thanks HammerRocks!!
Great idea with the airtags....you can take the speaker out of them so they don't make the alert sound and still works as it should...video here on RUclips on how to do it, a search will turn it up for you if interested
DPDT switch or relay. Cut the fuel/ignition on one pole, and wire the horn to the other. when the car is started, the only thing that happens is a rather loud blast from the airhorns ;)
Noice work today guys. Simple and affective. Some great food for thought. And on a side note, I just wanted to say a huge congratulations on how far you have come. Has been great. Cheers
Cheers Jon!
I've started watching some of your videos that I'm not even interested in, just to look at the new patrol. It's sick mate.
Great video. Very informative!
Nice work fellas. Liam that GQ is bloody lovely just need a patrol badge on the RH guard and she done👍👍
Short stick in N - LOL
When I put my '89 Hilux in to get gas fitted, the dyno mechanic had to ring me to ask where the transfer lever was.
Under the stubby holder!
Great vid guys. May pay to block out your address on some of those screen shots 🙂
Go the Patrol great episode! 🏞🛻📹🤙😎
this is the best comparison video going I recon
Such a good video that everyone could enjoy. You guys are awesome
Thanks mate!
Max Rockatansky is back in the Interceptor!
😂😂😂😂.the acting part. Awwsome❤
Great video, lots of great ideas. One more I have thought of doing is welding a chain link to the shift lever and securing a piece of chain through the firewall just long enough that it will prevent the shifter from moving when you put it in reverse and padlock the link on the shifter to the chain.
Great Episode Boys !
Cheers guys!!! 🙏🙏🙏
Awesome vid guys. Great information to know. 🤠
Glad it was helpful!
AWESOME STUFF GUYS .. BIG THUMBS UP
Thanks mate !
Great vid guys! Very entertaining haha!
Cheers!!
With the new head unit you've installed , if you are running Google maps and have Google services installed and location settings active you can track your car from your phone plus other features like location sharing, you can send a temporary link to a friend to track you plus other cool features
Great video thanks
On the older stuff it’s a lot easier to get a wiring diagram and insert a switch on the ignition side. All vehicles have a start solenoid on the side of the start motor, you can add a in series push button switch or two, so you have to press a button and turn the ignition key at the same time to start the motor. That switch can be hidden anywhere, even on the dashboard, down the side of your seat or even foot operated. It will not do anything if accidentally pressed, unless you are turning the ignition key. Most thieves wont figure out you’ve got to press and hold the button down and turn the key at the same time. Good to see lots of ideas, it will never stop all thieves but it will just make it a little harder, most thieves are opportunists and lack a few brain cells so easily put off if things aren’t going right. Keep up the good work lads.
Love this video!
Just remove driveshafts when parking. It won't go anywhere. 🤣🤣
I have 4 different tracking methods and a disabler that mechanically blocks the fuel from reaching the engine, kinda like a second key. Even if anyone were get in, bypass the alarm etc, they wouldn't even begin to figure out that there's a second "key" slot that goes to a tap on the fuel rail, completely separate from anything else in the car. Not my idea, found the system and copied it. It was a former embassy car, don't know what embassy of what country, the car was demarked by its second owner before me, but the signs of it being a protocol car were obvious (flag holders, bullet proof glass around the passenger, flat ride tires, reinforced blanket around the engine etc.
My advice when it comes to the tech side.
1. never show anything on camera, don't speak about the actual solutions etc.
2. have at least 3 different methods to track your car, including one method that activates only if you don't do something each time you get in the car (easily setup using either arduino or pi - both of which can be powered with a small remote battery).
3. don't make it obvious
4. the places where you hide these devices, make a list of places you would put them in, then make a list where a friend would put them in. DON'T put them in any of those places. First place you'd think is the most likely place for a thief to look into.
5. research the tech you're about to use, find even the most obscure things about them. figure out and test their limits. don't just rely on the data on the paper napkin they're sent with.
6. don't tell friends, don't show friends, don't show anyone. trust only yourself and yourself only.
The Samsung Tag 2 is very good and works off Samsung phones, ear buds and watches Bluetooth signals nearby. Good value too 👍
Yes, it came out tops pf the tags available, apple came second, tile came a dismal last with hardly working at all.
Had a fuel cut off valve on hz panny saved it a couple of times, the fj I use to remove rotor cap and coil lead nobody ever got that, now driving cruiser that has nothing, watching this reminds me I must do something about that, thanks boys🤙
Liam tracking Patrick at the end almost looked like an episode of highway patrol.
brother i love that truck it looks awesome
Great topic boys. 👍🍻🎯🇦🇺
We used the Tile Tag for work keys, and the only way it works is if the person near the tag also has the tile app.. or at least that was the case a couple of years ago.
Those bloody Toyota drivers 😂😂 great video fellas, informative and entertaining
A remote cutoff would be the way to go I've heard of some of these units having them
11:17 I was thinking the same thing, especially when it conked outside the pub 😂bit disappointing about the tile, i thought it would have worked better than that
Most entertaining anti theft video by far!
Hey guys, when is your next trip away?
I love watching your overnight camping destinations.
about to leave on a 4 week long trip!!
@@AussieArvos Excellent! Looking forward to that. JT from WA.
Such an important tip for us enthusiast. Good one gents. 👍 Hey Pat, you make one lousy car thief. Don't give up your day job. Your far better at it. 😁
😂😂 Cheers Fatman, I know right !
😂😂😂awesome work!!!!!
Good video, airtag is easy to deactivate the speaker so the thief is not notified of it's existence, the tracker looks like the way to go, I remember when these cost over $1000,The only thing that worries me about the tracker is what happens when the manufacturer of the device closes shop due to financial difficulties, then the app it taken down it makes the device useless (this happens all the time) the Airtag is an easy one to install / maintain and good for the city folks as there are millions of iPhones.
Apple and tile aren't going to be in any financial difficulty anytime soon so your worry about them closing shop is null and void!
@@TristanMaiolo I didn't mention Apple or samsung or tile as these are tags , I said the tracker, ie the dedicated GPS tracker, although Tile doesn't work well on other YT tests so if anything Tile will be one that disappears, this would also be because the battery in the Tile is not replaceable, it has a 3 years life then you have to replace the tile !! plus with the Tile, you need to pay monthly subscriptions starting at $4.99 to have a product that doesn't work, this was something this video failed to disclose.
@@-PORK-CHOP- had some headphones that had tile in em from factory and they got stolen it only pings if people have the tile app around your tile so mine ended up pinging at a house but it was just a rough estimate of where it was
It's not just the audio the airtag makes, the person will also get an actual alert on their iphone too that they are travelling with an airtag that is not linked to them. It's designed to stop people using them to stalk other people.
@@allenstorr318 I haven't had an iPhone since iP6 so that notification is useless for non iPhone users, but there is an android app that scans for the devices in close proximity to you.
And all the thieves are taking notes from this vid too 😂
Having a throttle controller is also a cheap decent mod, being able to lock the throttle like i can with the ultimate 9 is great, it can be hid, easy to install, and also helps with preformance.
works on only some vehicles tho from like 05 onwards
@Qw3lp yeah more of a modern thing
What sort of throttle controller do u need?
I have an i drive in my ute
@LukeBarton-eh9ps ive got an evcX in my rig, lets me lock it, valet mode it. All the things a dude wants
I just leave claymores on the front floor well. Works a treat and you just hose it out.
Give credit where it is due, the pub was a good place to stall out 👍
Smashing
Poor Paddy couldn’t get Patrol of his own so he had to nick yours! 😂😂😂
Good work boys!
Cheers Pat
Thanks mate!
I have a couple of Samsung tags in a few bit of gear and they work pretty well. For the cost of them it would be worth using a samsung one and an apple one. Tile is a failure so don't bother. Not enough people use them.
Have any ideas on stopping tow aways?
Do a vid with a gps jammer that plugs in the cig socket. As they block the gps signal
Disable the ciggy socket when parked. Or, better yet, a 30sec time out
not sure about the gps tracker youve used but i know some brands you can have it send notifications to multiple devices which in a way if you break down, go missing ect a friend or family member could possibly look up your location to at least find your vehicle witch would bring them closer to finding you if you left your car
Have you got a link for that shut off valve or similar
Old days you would just take a lead off when parked up. Ain’t going anywhere without it!…
Great vid. Hugely serious subject that you handled with grace and humour. Slightly click-bait title, no? 🤔
For non-ECU cars, physical methods, as you covered, plus battery isolation are good, so long as they are not inconvenient. Any system you fail to switch on is worse than useless. In modern cars the latest thing (I know of) is the 'ghost isolator', which requires certain steering wheel (or sim) buttons to be pressed otherwise the vehicle won't start. Ghost isolators are becoming more common to combat keyless entry thefts.
In rural areas (witrh phone coverage) the SIM-enabled systems are best. The Tile etc will work but they rely on other people connecting to the tracker with thier flavour of phone.
There's no universal system other than to have a vehicle that nobody wants to steal and who wants that?
Sorry I’m late boys been flat out working on my car and keeping kids racing on weekend let’s do gum boys 🤘🤘🤘
That was fun I like car theft hide and seek.
If you’re in the city, you’ll get a lot more frequent locations
The Nissan looks good after the rebuild. Have you got any plans to come up to Queensland? If you are let me know and I'd be happy to show you guys around the area. I'm looking at doing a chassis swap on a MQ Nissan Patrol. GQ chassis.
Would love to see some action on the tracks 😕👌🏽
That’s the problem with Tile. It relies on people having the Tile app on their devices to get location data, it’s not a “fault” per se, but a limitation with their system which has been rendered near obsolete by Apple’s AirTag system as there are far more Apple devices in the wild than Tile users.
wth i just got the JRP Gauge Advertisement after this video and didnt even notice that the vid was over haha
good gps tracker is definitely the way, airtags are no good. another trick for the fuel tap is to take the handle off, and keep it on your keys or something. then if it’s found they’re nearly impossible to turn by hand unless you’ve got pliers.
Now you've told them all the secrets lol
🤣😂good video guys, now lets see how long it takes one of your mates to turn off your fuel, without you knowing, while for example ur in the pub.gone are the days of leaving windows down and keys in ignition.so does paddy have a police record now?😂
I've had a 79 Ford FC's ciggy lighter wired up. Who is going to think to remove the lighter to start it up.
Airtags work more efficiently in busier, more built up, areas. Where there are more Apple devices around that the tag can ping off. Using it where you guys are/were won't be as effective unfortunately. Try the airtag test again when you're in Melbourne next, guarantee you'll have far different results.
True, but if your not in a built up area with thousands of opportunities for the system to work then it's useless, better off with the dedicated GPS tracker.
Yous go visit the chai wizard at the market ? Iykyk
Column shift manual will be a pretty good deterant 😂
i got ford badges on my 4 , ford 4x4rs.. no probs..
look up ford f250 highboy. 1975.. no mods needed.. plus, i cut it to swb. 3m w/base..perfect.. plus i have a 2002 s/duty, 4.2 tdi, no computer, no glow plugs, 3 valves, ohcam, 3'' system, all std.. 700nm.. 180kw.. winner.. &,, 2 solid diffs.. granny first, crawl, zf 5 sp..
My mates hilux got nicked but it ran outta fuel and the thiefs didn’t swap to the sun tank. New hilux at the time aswell
I always thought it was bad to run a diesel empty, is a fuel cut off system harmful ??
Wasn't it Sam Young that also had a tracker hooked up but the crooks managed to remove the battery quickly enough that he couldn't find it in time? Maybe worth considering.
Wish I did any of this when mine got stolen recently :(
I have a locking device on my GU Pedals
Remember that 3G apparently getting switched off end the year so the live tracker one won’t work I have the live track nomad portable one and was told about it when I got it
The Livetrack is 4G, so it should be fine !
I've stuck a 209 primer trip alarm between the door and the seatbox of my Landy, with a ping pong ball filled with glitter and uv powder to mark the criminal so even dumb cops can find him. Plus other hard security he'd need to defeat.
When I tested it on my street it got the neighbours out whereas car alarms didn't.
Only a dedicated GPS tracker is worth the money, considering what a vehicle costs these days and can't trust insurance i would install them on every vehicle and trailer.
No way. My sons car got broken into yesterday. The filthy grubs used some scanner thing to pick up the key fob inside and open the car. Thank God they didn't steal it but he lost abot 1.5k worth of gear. The lesson, don't leave valuables in your car and get a faraday if you have keyless entry fobs
fuel pumps best , slows them down a hella lot more and limit the current going to the starter so they think batteries going dead
respect for wearing are ski mask in summer 🥵
He should’ve just took some four drive tracks at The Ford couldn’t get to
4.2 gu,gq*s are commonly stolen because there so desirable
A nice simple one is to pull the fuse to the fuel solenoid in old diesels
*edit: especially if its not alongside all of the other standard fuses in the fuse box
Or put a switch in the wire to the stop solenoid and start as well.
Although the pull to stop rod on my old Land Rovers bamboozles most people🤣
Just take the wheels off 😂😂
i would just cut the ign wire and hide a kill switch connected in series
The only problem with putting the transfer case in neutral is that I am realign on the Landcruiser handbrake !!!!😮
🤣🤣 that's it 🙏
I did this type of thing to my ute after watching Mad Max haha
removing a speaker from an airtag is easy. hoewever with precision finding a thief can still find it. tile and airtag are no real good for moving car. However it will help for a car parked in a more busy location where people pass by.
Is this a challenge to try and steal it🤔
Running the diesel pump dry is really bad for the injector pump though right?
Yeah it's not great for it, but better then it being stolen hahah!
Only problem is with gps trackers that rely on sims for geolocation, phone signal blockers exist, and are being used more and more often. Only need to look at that flog Sam young, his 4wd was knicked, had a tracker and still never been seen again
Sam had his vehicle in to get work done. The engine was out and the battery was disconnected. GPS trackers have an internal battery but they do not last long and that is why Sam's GPS tracker did not work. I bought a GPS tracker and I think the battery lasts about 3 hours which is disappointing, so I made a battery pack from 4x 28650 batteries and wired that in so that even if the battery is disconnected the GPS will still have a power supply and will be recharged when the engine runs. 4wd's are a target because they are getting harder to find and many are being shipped overseas in containers by wreckers and criminal gangs for $$$.
I own a ln106 Hilux and parts are hard to come by because wreckers have shipped them overseas by the container load. I had to get my gearbox rebuilt. The gearbox re-builder said they had bought something like 2000 gearboxes from auction and another 10,000 gearboxes, something like 10 containers got shipped overseas. Australia is being robbed by greedy wreckers.
Very interesting guys, well dine.
I like the idea of the kill switch, if they cant get it started they will move on to the next car.
The GOS tracker doesnt prevent thieves from stealing and thrashing and pissibly torching your car.
So many people can’t drive manual nowadays I reckon that’s one of the cheapest anti theft devices you can get. Buy a manual 😂😂