They Got triggered when I compared dogs with chickens | India Street Vegan Debate | Voice of vegans
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This was a good experience. Many of them were very receptive. Some not so much. I find comparison with dogs is a good getaway to breakthrough the speciesist mindset.
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People are big hypocrites 🤧
More power to you man!🔥
I eat non veg but when I can't fight the urge, sometimes twice a week, sometimes once a month.
Welcome to the video were the host gets triggered much more and gets more annoying as the debate progresses.
Humans and dogs have a history by biology to stay and hunt as a partner, we had bad history of cast and religion doesnt justify that the "dog" history is same too. If its same for you then as we overcame the cast and women stuff, maybe we will start eating dogs then, slowly change mentality spread awareness and eat dogs too? for now we dont eat it and that is the socitial fact, for now we dont like China, pakistan and its a fact that can change, this doesnt mean you will jump ship and start debate about pakistani or turrorust are humans too, they have rights too... not the same.
the value in society is also ranked by its status, and believe it or not, that is how evolution has worked. things eat things. things save things that are useful to them in other ways, there are biology co existing with eachother and eating other biology together. thats is literally how it works. eating a dog is bu**load of nonsense by host.
> a chicken cant guard a house
> a chicken cant protect your young ones
> a chicken arguably wont be preferred by people to have as a stress relief or a family member/
> a chicken cant guide a blind person around the city
> a chicken cant be used in arctic to pull the sled
> a chicken doesnt entertain nor does it love you
I can yapp all the day, does the host hear himself? I am sure he cut parts where he got slapped by a proper argument. people are just shy or considerate because you are in position of interviewer. once there is a guy/girl who can talk back you will be destroyed out of world.
If you call humans hypocrite (which they humbly accepted) and push them enough, they wont give 2 sh about dog, you kill dog as a collateral to chickens? go ahead, we will eat chicken no matter what.
Indians dont eat beef, its the socitial choice, others do eat beef, we aint running around world saving cows. islam dont eat pork, they aint running all around the world to stop pork, if you dont eat meat then SHU* TF UP AND SIT DOWN
Thanks. One of them got me chuckled when they said "why eating dogs, there are chicken, mutton, etc"
hahah!!!! ya that was something!!! she didn't know where this will lead to ...
Yes ,why eating human flesh ,why only dogs ,why only chickens .Some idiots are gigling / laughing ,now laugh more
This time pass man comparing dogs ,chickens why he left humans .Height of idiocracy
Chuckle more ,why eating chicken and dogs why not humans .? 😂 Oh God
I eat non veg but when I can't fight the urge, sometimes twice a week, sometimes once a month.
More power to you my fellow vegan!!
Thanks for your support!!
I eat non veg but when I can't fight the urge, sometimes twice a week, sometimes once a month.
It's so scary to think that I am living in a society which is full of such hypocrites.
Such hypocrisy is also exercised among humans(with the minorities). Scared more now?
i am not
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hypocrites XD if you push people enough they will say go end or eat a dog, but we will eat chicken, its only that you dont have a taste or human culture to eat dog or cat that we dont. Im not a hypocrite, you wanna eat dog then go XD
Everyone is a hypocrite in some way or the other. So, stop acting like a saint.
@@user-tm4yw1rv2m yes thats what they said when i said humans are intelligent than pigs , cows and are overpopulated and animals that are overpopulated needs conservation.
It breaks my heart to see this video, one has to put so much energy in convincing a human to show humanity to someone who is totally incapable of defending themselves.
ya!!! it gets frustrating. Let's hope for the best and keep trying. Please help this channel grow by sharing with others.❤️❤️❤️
So true
@@pranayupadhyay2800 - what about plants? Is their life not life? I am disappointed with such disparity shown by the vegans.
@@rohithborra9435so do you think when you're eating chickens and goats you're not consuming plants..the amount of plant or grass they eat when they're being bred,till the time they are killed for you to eat is more than what a normal person would eat in that duration of time.
@@rohithborra9435 Rohit I am by your side, give me a least cruel option than consuming plants and I will go for it. Until that comes use lets use the least cruel available option.
1. Plants are the only being that can produce food from sun, water and soil. Plants are first source of nourishment.
2. Lets says We all agree that we should not be cruel to plants with that logic also we should totally give up consumption of non veg because to produce 1kg of meat eat around 30KG of plant (thats average of Ruminants and Monogastic)
Also, the last few mins discussion are alarming .. from the perspective of animal abuse as well as from the perspective of the lady in it. I sincerely wish that she is being dishonest here else, it’s heartbreaking to see women ready to internalize their trauma in 21st century. I hope she reflects on this discussion and grow strong from it.. For herself, and For the Animals!
:( Now that i think about it after you pointed out ...
In a way she normalized human abuse just to justify the statement about having a choice to get rid of abuse is optional which is really sad to see.
Great video, spreading veganism. Thankyou. 👏👏👏
Thanks for your kind support!!
Spread veganism and make India malnutritious 😂
If after so much explaining to these people, they still don't go vegan atmost within a few months or a year, then shame on humanity!
ya!!! we should keep trying....let us hope for the best!!!
This is something I have heard many people say, as one lady said, I decided to stop eating meat "out of compassion for animals.". But ... listen, but what is the reason they say after that ... "Some others asked us at that time, do not plants also have life, so eating plants, then that is not cruelty.!!?", So when the question came we got bent and we couldn't change the food cycle, so we decided to continue the meat eating habit that we wanted to stop out of compassion, why didn't they choose plants even though they were confused by that question,Why have eating animals that cry out in pain, and not comparing them to plants that not feel pain, not scream, and turns directly back to eating meat!!!!. The only answer is taste, plants can't feel pain or cry out because it is non sentient, so you have to understand and give up eating animals.Instead, stop making lame excuses for your taste. GO VEGAN
excellent!
😇अहिंसा परमो धर्म 😇
Ahimsa paramo dharma
(“non-harm is the HIGHEST religious principle” or “non-violence is the GREATEST law”).
Therefore, only a strict VEGAN can claim to be an adherent of the eternal religion (sanātana dharma).🌱
true! Veganism is Ahimsa!
Let me complete "HALF" Verse for you :
धर्म हिंसा तथीव च |
So is Violence in Service of "Dharma".
@@raulad7058
From which source were you quoting?
Definitely NOT the same work of literature from which I was quoting ("Mahābhārata").
Incidentally, it’s called “Spell-Check”. ✅
Look into it, SILLY Sinful Slave. 👨🏻🎓
@@voiceofvegans - no. Veganism is only half Ahimsa. Why are u still doing himsa with plants. Very sad truth 😔
@@raulad7058 at least read commentaries by scholars on that verse before adding your own false perception
He chose the best way to explain!
People see dogs as human but not goats
I will say DOGs and cats are overrated
This is such a beautiful compilation 😊😊 ..I’m loving this technique of same format discussions with multiple people as it highlights the parallel thought process of human minds 😃
Ya :)
Yet to watch the full video but love your street interviews! The role play of being a dog abuser and getting answers from the person is a great approach which I try to adopt as well. They get that realisation of what other animals go through mid way in the conversation and they've already given the response for any excuse and now they can't use it again which puts them in a dilemma and makes them think deeply.
Also, it was nice to meet you at the Bengaluru March. Your speech was tremendous and so rousing!
Ya!!! It is easy to get through carnist psychology while talking about dogs...one of my go to strategies...
it was glad meeting you too...i was hoping to catch up later...the place was so dark with so much going on...hope to see you soon.
p.s I take b12 tabs sublingual after your comment on my video :) I wanted to tell you that day.
Thanks for being vegan. I really enjoy how you set this debate up by first leading people to demolish the carnist position before showing them the proverbial mirror. Skillful.
Thanks for the kind comment 💚💚💚
Pet Lovers are not Animal Lovers.
20:37 🤦🏽♀️ Kya didi... Main sadak pe kisi dog ko laat maarte rahu aur jab koi mujhe rokne ki koshish kare toh usko bolu ki "everyone kills plants too" toh chalega kya ?
she was giving better argument than some vegan activists while defending dogs :-P
In the middle, When he started talking about chicken and meat, all these people lost their mind. He put them in such a different perspective.
Love your street chats. Your approach is really smart and inspiring.
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Haha the partner abuse in a marriage example always works! Great work!
Non vegetarians shouldn't have say on this
Only vegetarians should have right to have say on this issue
Veganism, while well-intentioned, may have inadvertently hindered the broader cause of animal welfare. A more effective approach would be to promote vegetarianism as an initial step, allowing people to gradually transition towards veganism. By taking incremental steps, such as first eliminating meat consumption, society can more easily adapt to dietary changes. For instance, if dairy products were suddenly banned, many people would likely abandon the movement altogether. This gradual approach explains why India has historically promoted vegetarianism rather than veganism. Unfortunately, many vegans adopt an extreme and radical stance, seemingly more concerned with virtue signaling than employing logical strategies to slowly shift society. A more measured approach would first encourage widespread vegetarianism before advocating for complete veganism.
there is a study which proves that plants are living beings as well, just like other living organisms.
I watched full 25 minutes 🙂🙂Thank you for your activism 💚💚
Good Girl!
Incidentally, are you VEGAN?
:) glad that you liked it!!!
hoping so!!!!
Did that girl in last say we should bargain in domestic abuse😅… damn the lengths people go defend being non vegetarian
Hats off man!!!! The way you brought the topic after giving that spectacular intro.I’m convinced bro
Proud to be vegitarian since birth. 🙏
There's a huge difference between vegan's and vegetarians.
Does this young man realise that we have enough food to feed around 80 billion land animals annually and that if we didn't have those animals to feed we would be able to feed starving humans many times over.
He realised after our discussion 😇
We don’t need these many humans either . People need to control the number of them around .
No one was triggered lol they just accepted XD
The rationale people give for the sake of satisfying their taste buds is simply mindblowing. These well educated people are defending killing beings is because of the memories of their loved ones cooking them meals and their emotional attachment towards those memories that make them justify even the naked truth about cruelty.
For a Very long i was thinking the same Dog or Cat lovers are Just Hypocrites 😂😂😂
Great work shivam. 👌The analogies and examples you use are really amazing. By looking at people like yourself, Arvind and many of you out there that vegans like myself get inspired to try to make this world a better place to live in for the animals.
Keep growing. All the best 💞
Highly appreciating the work you are doing.
Thanks for the kind words. Pls share the videos to help this channel with reach 🙌
@@voiceofvegans sure, why not. all of this deserves so many view.
😇😇😇 hopefully one day!!! I will keep working irrespective 🔥✊
I love that you pointed out someone thinking an animal's value is based on their personal perspective of the species. Obviously not sound reasoning.
ya!!! it is one of the most common defences!!!
I'm new here. I love your work. It's nice to see people outside of America be asked these questions.
It seems like "I love animals, but..." is also an issue in your neck of the woods.
@21:12 I love that song. Lol
haha...thanks for your support !!!!
Keep going brother can please make a video for us vegan activists who need some tips and tricks for debates and awareness programs.
I am working on creating resources for Indian vegan actvists....you can check that
www.voiceofvegans.com
Right answer is
Do what u want and what u can, consequences some people don't care anyways.
Great video!
This is how ideas must be communicated.. via thought provoking conversations.
Just ask questions and let them make their own decisions. 👍
Thank you for doing this! Your arguments are very cohesive and seem to be pretty convincing. Keep it up brother :)
Thanks Pete for you support! pls share with others.!!! and new video of activism is out :)
Bro trying to use word epiphany but at wrong place
Lol I caught that too. Carnists trying to look smart by using big words; typical.
You're doing amazing work bro. I have not really watched such confrontational conversations in India. Mostly I've watched people from other nations like Joey Carbstrong. There are many Indian vegan channels as well but not necessarily as direct in their activism.Maybe that's because people usually get mad when they are called out on their hypocrisy .
Ya… it needs to be dealt sensitively. My way is to be assertive but composed. Thanks for your support. Pls share with others to help the channel grow🙌
I have already really lost my hope from this society... It is said that there will come at a time when cannibalism will be justified by the same reason like market demand, social factors, food choice, freedom of food etc.
But then cannibalism will atleast lessen the population. I am all for people's freedom for it. 😂😂
Well said! Thanks for speaking up for those who can't
the last part 💀🥴 why have some people accepted abuse as a norm?
omg that was something :O
Great approach to activism Shivam 👏👏
Really hope everyone following this video take the argument to the end and reject all exploitation towards animals 🙏🙏
fingers crossed!
I feel you brother. I’m not against anybody, but the thing is, I believe that if your in anyway part of the modern civilization that we live in right now you are equally contributing to all the plunder done by humans to this planet like deforestation, animal abuse…etc. So I think people who use cars, cellphones, wear clothing manufactured by large companies and everything else also contribute to a lot of animal abuse. What can we do about it?? Well i don’t know, cause Im too dependent on all the things, cultures and mechanics we built, that i cant even go back..😞😞
I believe Shivam addressed this point in his video, about our moral obligation to delink from carnist regimes to the most extent possible.
Please explain more n more people about agricultural is also happening more for non vegetarian people so that they can feed animals for slaughtering.... means non-vegetarian responsible for both animals killing as well as deforestation.
This is one of the best outreach videos of yours that I have seen. Great job! I think your ability to discuss this are on par with earthling ed. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the kind words. I think it is a skillset which is getting better with practice.
Great survey. Such conversation on awareness needed more ❤❤❤. Thanks for doing this.
I'm a vegan too for animals and environment ❤
I have a clear picture of WHY to choose to be Vegan. 22:40 complete silence 🙌
What if in future law becomes lawless for humans ?
Then these non-vegetarian people casually eat humans ,
But abusing a human is not good...
( It means we all live in that so-called rotten society... )
my brother's intellectuality was on next level
a big salute to you brother
Thanks a lot for the kind words. Please help this channel grow by sharing with others.❤️❤️❤️
I guess it is not only about non veg, or veg every human being has the responsibility to take only as much as he needs of the earth's resources.Not consuming in excess is also a part of our duty.
sir by following you...i am vegetarian now n working on being vegan also...thank you.
Hope you go vegan soon. Feel free to comment if you need any help.
There is a demand for hit men too. Why punish the man who paid the hit man to kill when he did not do the killing himself? But if the man who instigated the killing because he wanted someone dead had not paid the hit man would the hit have taken place?
16:16 It tells that she has never thought about this.
Of course there can be ethical killing, just ask Arjuna. The entire Bhagavad Gita discusses theses things. Whether you choose to agree with the commentary of Ramanuja, Shankaracharya, or Abhinavagupta, etc, this topic is not contested at it's root. A house holder who's dharma is to protect his family has the duty to kill an intruder who threatens to kill them. Per the Shiva Purana, one who does not kill this attacker, and thus choses to stand against their dharma, commits the greatest of sins, equal to that of killing a brahmin. Killing animals for food is different thing, with a different argument, but it just seemed like this idea of killing in general was in question. I am a vegetarian, but that has nothing to do with the above. You are great for making people consider these moral implications. 🔱
Do you seriously think a person's connection with a dog is similar to that with a chicken?
Do you think a chicken exhibit the same level of affection and emotions as that of a dog?
Its isn't anything about being a hypocrite, humanity has been living on meat for forever now, suddenly these neo humans have arrived.
Our love for other animals like dogs doesn't exclude us from consuming chicken.
Its a choice we make.
Vegans should mind their own business.
People who call other people hypocrites for eating chickens and caring for dogs are such retards. A dog is a emotionally evolved domesticated animal that actually reciprocates the love it gets. You have to understand that Veganism is totally NOT practical at all.
At first I am wondering they are indians or just looking like indians.
The same questions need to be asked to the Bollywood celebrities like Priyanka Chopra, Alia etc…because they known they are hypocrites from before, by these people realised that they are sounding hypocrites when given the reason
Very detailed conversation and good logics asked to them
Thanks for you support! pls share with others.!!! and new video of activism is out :)
"I know its a hypocritical point but i am a A**hole" just say it, no need to be shy.
Great work as always educating non vegans. Kudos to you!
Thanks a lot for your support!
Hi Bro: You are doing a wonderful job. Keep up the good work.
Hey, thanks❤️❤️❤️
Very much stuff discon l think long time everyone vegan🥦🥕🌽🥦🥕🌽🥦🥕🌽
:)
Bhaiya apki hi himmat hai mai bhi thak chuki hu logon ko samjha samjha ke
More power to you
What about stray dogs attacking humans ? People are getting killed especially kids.
i completely agree. Not only that, all animals should have fundamental rights, right to vote, right to work and contribute to economy. Basically constitution should be applied for all Animals, big or small. Dogs or insects. Dare anyone touch the mosquitoes..
Loved watching your interesting interviews!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Interesting discussion. It's so surprising to hear that the same people are emphatic towards dogs but don't have any empathy for chicken. 😅😅
Logical consistency has left the conversation
Shared this channel link to my friends!! Great job man.
Great Video! You did a good job of leading people to see their inconsistency.
Thank you brother 🙏🏼 💙 ❤️
Great approach... I'll try this in my next outreach... Also can you suggest a video for argument tips for veganism....
Hi Shiva!!!! thanks for reaching out...on arguments itself...I have created a resource ...check out the website... www.voiceofvegans.com
On how to discuss...i will soon organise workshops...pls check out insta...i will update there.!
I just found your channel. Thank you for your work ❤
I was non vegetarian... Became vegetarian 25 years back wen i saw them how they were butchered and i saw them in sheer pain... 2 years back i wanted to be a vegan i tried but couldn't.. paneer, butter,curd and milk was something i use to eat... I tried to reduce my milk consumption by 50 percent... I do drink milk but not 3 times a day .. but once .. paneer only wen am out on dinner... And curd is very nominal now.. i hope i go vegan one day..
"Morals have aesthetic criteria"
- Friedrich Nietzsche
"It's a morally grey area" is a common way for people to attempt to justify the abuse of others, for personal gain. Animal abuse should not be a morally grey area.
Choosing to eat chicken is ok is next level hypocrisy when showing empathy to Dogs.
😂😂😂
I don't support veganism , its not practical but I support your cause of not harming animals. I am a vegetarian from past 24 years, I am 43 now.
What is any animal mistake to become our food?
This question to myself made me leave meat 16 years ago.
Thanks, you did everything to make them understand, they won’t understand. Because their bodies become accustomed to certain diet and after that it’s very difficult to make them understand. If things change, they will do it with their own effort.
Awesome videos shivam!
Thanks a ton❤
very easy and very straightforward answer is that we always choose a higher life form between 2
if we hold a gun to a man and ask him to kill a man or a Hen he will kill that hen
if mosquitos or any lizard come into our house we don't let them live over there, why?, because we choose ourselves (higher life form ) over them. i can easily discuss these points and can also convince him that killing chickens and even dogs is not a big thing for a human it is just about the individual moral. if you read history Sapiens remove entire species of many animals either in Australia or America otherwise we would not have survived
Great video brother 🙏i am a vegan too
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tell them the taste is of salt 🧂 in that chicken. You can’t eat it without salt.
I ate chicken only 1 time. I felt so bad that I ate someone who was killed without a choice. I could sense the fear they must have felt before getting killed because animals can sense that.
i never ate non veg after that. I fed a lot of stray animals (cows , dogs , pigeons etc) as a way of remorse. I'll never ever in my life eat non veg.
I don't like people who go defensive.
But vegan's can tackle any defence
yes! absolutely...Logic and justice is on our side. Thanks for your support ❤️
@@shakthirajbillava2525 what defence? Why do u people eat plants? Does not plant have life in it?
@@rohithborra9435 plants don't have emotions, they don't screem, your point is completely illogical and nonsense.
@@sanamkumar9290 - ur excuse for plants does not make any sense. Just because we cannot hear plant scream does not mean they don't have emotions. Every living thing will have emotions in a different way, not that we can understand.
Also, If you apply ur logic to a man in coma, is it justified to kill him just because he cannot scream or have no emotions?
@@rohithborra9435 why are you so dumb?? a person in coma is abnormal codition and many times even they can feel emotions because we have centralised nervous system and with the help of certain hormones we can feel emotions but in plants, those hormones and their receptors are absent which means they can never feel anything happening to them according to the medical science. what you are saying is complete speculation like plants can have emotions but in different way, its same kind of statement like '' i think alens exist but we do not have evidence because we are finding them with our perspective of aliens ''. you should speak on facts with reference to the research done by scientists and it should be accepted by medical science.
Keep going Sir❤
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We are living in a world in which a large percentage of people are not having the right consciousnesses. They think that they are this body and hence sense graftication is the way to go....... in many other ways even i am strugling with my consciousnesses
Vegans have pledged one thing
"Khud to compromise karke jiyenge, tumhe bhi tumhare kaane ko leke dhain se nahi jeene denge" Kyaa depressed log ho be bhai
Yo man ! 🔥
You did them right brother 🔥
More power to you my man 🤝
Wow man .... couldn't agree more .... surprised not to see this earlier,,,,
Proud to be vegetarian
Real face actually starts to come out after 6 minutes
I'm not a hypocrite, because I don't preach. Don't act holier than thou.
Wow! what amazing line of questioning... MORE OF SUCH INTERVIEWS! #GoVegan. I have converted 3 years back thanks to Ed, Gary and so many of such wonderful vegan influencers.
Would this bespectacled woman say the same thing when it comes to child abuse? That it is better the child is abused fewer times than not be abused at all?
As a vegetarian I get the same questions in my mind. Thanks for interviewing these people.
By far the best on Internet I have seen from Vegan's point of view
They are not able to defend themselves because they are being hypocrites