The Best GARMIN LIVESCOPE Setup & Settings EXPLAINED!!

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  • Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024

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  • @rcagle123
    @rcagle123 3 года назад +5

    I just upgraded from pvc to fishing specialties pole and use an amped outdoors 19 amp hour 16 .8 volt battery. After 6 hrs of fishing voltage just drops to 15.5. Volts. Running black box and uhd graph on same battery. Thanks for the settings tip.

    • @jeffkopp1962
      @jeffkopp1962 3 года назад +1

      Doing the same with a 40ah amped 16.8. Runs my 1242 and LS for a long, long time. Works well.

    • @300zxdriver
      @300zxdriver 2 года назад

      Good to know I have same battery just on black box. Uhd 93 on starter battery. Maybe I’ll try both on same battery. Thx

  • @TheIceman101
    @TheIceman101 2 года назад +1

    I'm getting the hang of my Live scope, I went yesterday and changed from forward to down Imaging and hammered some hybrids. It's getting easier now.
    I'm going to do a video on my setup. I even noticed every time I go out it gets clearer. I think these transducers have a break in period. The same with my 93sv. Thanks again for your help by making these videos.

  • @robfranke1
    @robfranke1 3 года назад

    Adding a 20v dewalt type lithium battery to the black box is the BEST hack to do..1 lasts pretty much all day because I've got a switch to relay power on..not used when graphing....saves run time
    Even the knock offs run almost all day..I carry 3. Never needed em. Good video. Thanks

  • @TheIceman101
    @TheIceman101 2 года назад +1

    Thanks man, I have the 93sv on my skeeter and now I just purchased the live scope,
    I can’t wait to get it on the water.

  • @jamieforsythe3501
    @jamieforsythe3501 3 года назад +7

    Good video man! You do a great job explaining everything. I have my livescope dialed in from your videos!

  • @mr.gunsglore7670
    @mr.gunsglore7670 Год назад +1

    Yes you helped me out a lot with those settings and the way you explained it ! Now I understand a lot better!!

  • @jamesyounginer5584
    @jamesyounginer5584 Год назад

    MAN YOU JUZ KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO!! YOUR VIDEO'S ARE SOME OF THE MOST INFORMATIVE I HAVE SEEN. THANX AGAIN!!

  • @ksoutdoorsports
    @ksoutdoorsports 3 года назад +2

    I'm liken that green color. I've been running amber on my Hummingbirds but I'm going to check out that green a little more.

  • @lonniehall9006
    @lonniehall9006 3 года назад

    I run my unit on Milwaukee 18 volt, and black box on dewalt 20, and they run 7 hours with no problem, but keep spares for both. Have networked with Bree-z box, made by Jaime Banks in California. Second fisherman can see same thing on console. Great show, Kentucky

  • @zimmermanseth
    @zimmermanseth 2 года назад +1

    Awesome insight brotha! Love all the good content like this which is helping me dial my unit in!

  • @doubletroublefishing136
    @doubletroublefishing136 3 года назад +3

    How shallow can you put the boat and look out in front and fish skinny water?

  • @TheIceman101
    @TheIceman101 2 года назад

    Went out for the 1st time with my setup and saw some fish but not sure they where bass. They were on cover so I assume it was.
    It was to hot to focus and be in total comfort to stay there to long.
    I dropped a minnow jig down to them and while watching my jig get to them I saw one come up to my bait but didn’t take it.
    Exciting encounter for my 1st time thou.

    • @TheIceman101
      @TheIceman101 2 года назад

      I’m going to do a video one day.

  • @JeremyReger
    @JeremyReger 2 года назад

    Ive got two things man... you are amazing.. this video is amazing... (not included on the two things)
    1. Have you ever tried turning the livescope to the rear and trying to capture the trolling depths of your lures? I'm on Lake Erie and REALLY really going to work on this setup this year to see if I can focus that beam out to get a dead accurate reading of my depths.
    2. You can use active captain to do a screen capture on your device without having the sun glare!

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  2 года назад

      The helm feature of active captain does not work on echomap units.

    • @JeremyReger
      @JeremyReger 2 года назад

      @@KansasAnglingExperience :( that stinks.. haha. have you tried trolling with the livescope to get depths? Joe Okada was doing it in an H2H tournament, I just have to sort it out

    • @retiredokie5650
      @retiredokie5650 Год назад +1

      I have done it using the pole and positioning it the back of the boat it takes some aiming but you can watch the fish strike or not in many cases....

  • @davem1545
    @davem1545 3 года назад +4

    Great video, thank you for taking the time on a bluebird sky, sun filled day to help us dial in. Your tips have helped tremendously!! Maybe Garmin will add you to their Pro Staff!

  • @MrJhillbilly
    @MrJhillbilly 3 года назад

    Thank you for your video I purchased at Garmin in the biggest bummer was the salesman did not tell me how long do transducer wire was I have a 30 foot boat and the transducer wire is only a 15 ft it took over a week to find the extension. So if you have a large boat this is August 8th they are on backorder through Garmin 4 to 6 weeks.

  • @donniegreen983
    @donniegreen983 3 года назад

    Thanks for all the info. I'm getting livescope and you answered a lot of my questions.

  • @saelee33
    @saelee33 2 года назад

    Where you mounted your live scope? I need to build one for it. Thank you. Is there a DIY video where you mounted it too?

  • @donaldostertag5081
    @donaldostertag5081 2 года назад

    Helped me decide what way to go on what batteries to run thanks great job

  • @scottsoutherly3353
    @scottsoutherly3353 2 года назад

    Very helpful. Can’t wait to get back on the water to try it out!

  • @timgardner6723
    @timgardner6723 2 года назад

    Great info! I see now why I have so much clutter on my screen. I have the UHD 93SV also. How do you get the on-screen controls? All I see is options for gain and range.

  • @douglasp5799
    @douglasp5799 3 года назад +1

    I still get map and GLS 10 updates on my non UHD 93sv plus.

  • @darralldougherty5388
    @darralldougherty5388 8 месяцев назад

    Probably missed it in the video, but what transducer were you using, LVS34?

  • @The_Garmin_Guru
    @The_Garmin_Guru 2 года назад

    100k views and only 1.5k likes. That’s crazy. From one RUclipsr to another good job bud

  • @rickpearce5069
    @rickpearce5069 2 года назад

    Great video! Thank you. Great places for me to start out. Appreciate your time.

  • @qjranch1
    @qjranch1 3 года назад +1

    When you aren't using your LiveScope, is it powered on still or do you have a switch to turn off the black box and not using any extra power? Does it hurt it to be powered on and not in the water all day?

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  3 года назад +3

      Either disable sonar transmission, or turn it off. Especially when it’s hot. Not good for the transducer when it’s out of the water.

  • @thebowtiefisherman5718
    @thebowtiefisherman5718 3 года назад

    Wow!!!! Thank you for a super detailed video. Hey I'm loving that apparel you're wearing. Can you point me to where I can get one like it? Stay safe

  • @jbiggs556
    @jbiggs556 2 года назад

    Awesome video! Are you still running the Dewalt battery for the Black Box and front graph now that you've upgraded to the 106?

  • @dandillon7729
    @dandillon7729 3 года назад

    Awesome video! I'm waiting on my Echomap Ultra 106SV and Panoptix to be delivered. I purchased 3 Lithium 12v 100ah batteries to run my 24/36V Trollmotor, and my electronics....Will this be sufficient?

  • @bparker1893
    @bparker1893 2 года назад

    Fantastic info for a new Garmin Livescope user. I troll a lot for walleye on the French Broad River. Can I get use out of the Livescope when I'm moving at 1-2MPH and see the fish ahead of me?

  • @staycontracting1302
    @staycontracting1302 Год назад

    Loved the video, great Information!!

  • @jeffkopp1962
    @jeffkopp1962 3 года назад +2

    What I need to know is when you have a fish looking at your bait what button do you push to get it to bite? See you in a few weeks B!

  • @RushVoorhisOutdoors
    @RushVoorhisOutdoors 3 года назад

    very interested in the whole sunglass situation...keep us posted

  • @marvin41ful
    @marvin41ful 2 года назад

    How are you liking the stowaway mount? Ordered one but haven't received it yet.

  • @tomarmstrong1846
    @tomarmstrong1846 3 года назад +1

    Amazing video
    Well done sir

  • @deerphoria4314
    @deerphoria4314 Год назад

    Does the custom settings stay the same for the next trip out fishing or does it reset after you turn the power off?

  • @garyheath9531
    @garyheath9531 2 года назад

    Which video shows how u built the pole mount?

  • @jeremyhorn8735
    @jeremyhorn8735 Год назад

    Do you have a video on the set up with your dewalt battery

  • @_Andy_W_
    @_Andy_W_ Год назад

    Is the ultra model of echomap a good choice also! Thanks for fantastic videos! Cheers from Sweden!

  • @michellaplante1803
    @michellaplante1803 10 месяцев назад

    Hey there
    Where did you get your transducer boat mount,love it❤

  • @carterboysoutdoors5788
    @carterboysoutdoors5788 Год назад

    Is this the 32 or 34 version livescope transducer.. thinking about getting it for my Jon boat I take to local reservoirs here in Maryland but trying to figure out if the 34 is really worth that extra money.

  • @malcolmzoll7613
    @malcolmzoll7613 Год назад

    Thanks for all the information,great video

  • @themultiangler
    @themultiangler 2 года назад

    Great vid man!

  • @hoaglandt616
    @hoaglandt616 2 года назад

    First time out today with my livescope and these settings I was able to see my crankbait pit 35ish feet.

  • @mikelbobki
    @mikelbobki Год назад

    Thank you for showing how to set up the live scope screen. Got mine then had some medical problems so when I get back on the lake I will have to refresh myself on the live scope. Thanks again.

  • @robertjohnson8742
    @robertjohnson8742 2 года назад

    Very good video, really help me a lot. Thanks

  • @lonniehall9006
    @lonniehall9006 2 года назад

    Did you install the last garmin update, March 2022 ?? Kentucky

  • @waynemaranduik2138
    @waynemaranduik2138 2 года назад

    Hey Brian, considering a Minn Kota Terrova or Ultrex to replace my Powerdrive. The only reason I'm considering the Ultrex is the issue of mounting an external transducer (either LIVESCOPE Plus or the transducer that comes with the GARMIN ECHOMAP UHD 95sv) to the Terrova with the lift assist and stow away system where the trolling motor shaft raises to go into the stow position and the motor turning while using spot lock. I am mainly a Bass fisherman up here in Ontario Canada, mostly shallow water anywhere from 2-20ft deep. Is there a mounting system you would recommend? Would you do trolling motor mount or a pole mount like your DIY pole or another pole mount? Thx!

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  2 года назад

      None of the above. Stick to your transducer on the transom and link your console and bow graph so they share the transducer. Or, get a Terrova that has down imaging built in. Ultrex is garbage as far as I’m concerned, running an external transducer on a Terrova is a pain, so that leaves you with getting a unit that has a built in transducer, or networking your bow and console units to share the transducer on the transom.

    • @waynemaranduik2138
      @waynemaranduik2138 2 года назад

      @@KansasAnglingExperience even if I go LIVESCOPE PLUS? You wouldn't mount the LP+ transducer on a pole up at the bow? I don't think a Garmin can use a MEGA Down built into the Terrova, just the Universal 2D transducer. I already have a GARMIN ECHOMAP UHD 95sv on my console with the GT54 transducer on the transom, so don't really want to mix and match a GARMIN and a Hummingbird graph. If I don't go LIVESCOPE and just have the GARMIN 95sv at the bow and share the transom transducer, is that really beneficial at the bow? Thx

  • @jameskarr5550
    @jameskarr5550 2 года назад

    Thanks I’m fixing to buy a Garmin trying to decide which one... any suggestions appreciated!!

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  2 года назад

      Any of the Ultra series

    • @jameskarr5550
      @jameskarr5550 2 года назад

      @@KansasAnglingExperience I’m so dumb I’ll have to search, no idea but I’ll research it.. TY!!

    • @jameskarr5550
      @jameskarr5550 2 года назад

      @@KansasAnglingExperience I’ve been looking at 93SV live scope. I’ll look into Ultra...

  • @leadthrower4712
    @leadthrower4712 3 года назад

    I’m only about two hours west of you. Just picked up my first live scope unit two days ago

  • @josepha.brunojr.4837
    @josepha.brunojr.4837 3 года назад

    I really enjoy your videos, I don't have a livescope maybe one of these days I don't see it in the near future but it's always on my wishlist. How is your pops doing with his life scope since you put it on his boat?

  • @alananderson2961
    @alananderson2961 Год назад

    Awesome video 👏👏

  • @glenwright3062
    @glenwright3062 2 года назад

    Just about to use your code on a Stowaway XL . Does the kick stand plier holder have a set screw to loosen allowing you to swing it 90 degrees on the tube? I see it is swung 90 on the one with the longer folding support arm.I'm Looking forward to using the Stowaway on my new G3 V 18 SF . Thanks for the code!

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  2 года назад

      Yep, has an Allen wrench screw there so you can move it however you want up down or left right

    • @glenwright3062
      @glenwright3062 2 года назад

      @@KansasAnglingExperience Great I'll buy the XL with the folding support arm and depending where I install the mount if I don't need the arm I can twist the kick stand/plier holder around to provide support when folded. Thanks for getting back to me!

    • @glenwright3062
      @glenwright3062 2 года назад

      UPDATE !! I called Larry at Stowaway Mounts. He took my order over the phone charging 1/2 what the site was erroneously billing for shipping to Ontario and ensured I would get the Kansas Angling Experience 10% discount. Thanks Stowaway and KAE ! PREVIOUS POST >The Code worked great but the stowaway checkout system automatically defaults to overnite shipping at $100 USD ($130 Canadian) for an XL mount with a double stack and small items . Maybe they automatically include duty and brokerage fees ? Wow.

  • @howardharmon3451
    @howardharmon3451 2 года назад

    How do you run the screen through panoptics unit from one DeWalt battery? I have the screen powered from it’s own 20v currently.. but now I’m nervous about frying it.

  • @batmanrobin3853
    @batmanrobin3853 2 года назад

    What battery setup are you running? Curios how to get 17 volts

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  2 года назад

      At the time this video was made I was running a 20v lithium dewalt drill battery setup to power the graph and black box. Now I run a 100ah dedicated battery.

    • @batmanrobin3853
      @batmanrobin3853 2 года назад

      @@KansasAnglingExperience I’m running a 100ah battery now, lithium. I can get 13 volts but was trying to get 17 or 18 volts.
      I’m guessing now your not getting the high voltage with the new battery?

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  2 года назад

      @@batmanrobin3853 no, but that’s unnecessary. Running higher voltage doesn’t mean better picture.

    • @batmanrobin3853
      @batmanrobin3853 2 года назад

      @@KansasAnglingExperience ohh okay. I had a couple guys tell me the more voltage the better image you get.
      I appreciate your response.

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  2 года назад

      @@batmanrobin3853 yeah, I really wish that theory would die, lol

  • @tonyboneize
    @tonyboneize 2 года назад

    Do they have a ridgid battery conversion?

  • @LowellFrancisco
    @LowellFrancisco Год назад

    Thank you for the tips!

  • @fudgie80
    @fudgie80 3 года назад

    Thanks for the settings .

  • @JoeDevlin-x1x
    @JoeDevlin-x1x 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks. Very helpful.

  • @haroldhatcher1239
    @haroldhatcher1239 3 года назад +1

    Another great video. That’s the way to show garmin videos.

  • @joetucker9500
    @joetucker9500 2 года назад

    Will the lvs34 work on the transom forward facing

  • @똠양꿍-r8b
    @똠양꿍-r8b Год назад

    In general, the TI units are faster in response to inputs. This is seen when quickly switching between sonar, downscan, chart, and split screens ruclips.net/user/postUgkxeAxH15LxhjGlg5-CRYqjTGTEH0tbY4vk recommend The Hook units will show some lag on button pushes and screen switching. The big ticket item though is maps. If you install a mapping card such as Navionics or the free C-Map Genesis which has a lot of map detail, then moving around the map with the cursor or when running down the lake can lag significantly on the Hook units, but is seamless with the TI units.

  • @jimlauw4167
    @jimlauw4167 2 года назад

    Sure would be nice to see a cheat sheet on your setting for us new old folks.

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  2 года назад +1

      Take a screenshot or Write down the settings in this video. I list them real big and bold for the old folks. ruclips.net/video/-kc_U-HDUXY/видео.html

  • @Gobert27
    @Gobert27 2 года назад

    Hey man how can you split screen your map while running livescope?

  • @hoovy6579
    @hoovy6579 Год назад

    THANK YOU, well done!

  • @TommyBaxter-t4g
    @TommyBaxter-t4g 18 дней назад

    May I get a way to book a trip

  • @paulrucker1786
    @paulrucker1786 2 года назад

    Great video! Thank you!!

  • @rayarnold8275
    @rayarnold8275 3 года назад

    Thanks for sharing buddy thanks have a great day stay safe god bless

  • @lorneduncan5059
    @lorneduncan5059 Год назад

    Can you show your transducer position?

  • @thomastabor5333
    @thomastabor5333 2 года назад

    Very informative, thanks

  • @pauloxford3819
    @pauloxford3819 Год назад

    Thank you fir the information

  • @petergozinya2607
    @petergozinya2607 3 года назад

    I have a question..im going with a pole mount..just seems better to me..i use spot lock a lot...can I see 360 degrees with a pole mount or will I have to maneuver my boat to the corresponding side where the transducer is mounted ?

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  3 года назад

      You can spin it 180 in either direction. You could spin it 360 if you put enough slack in the transducer cable.

    • @petergozinya2607
      @petergozinya2607 3 года назад

      @@KansasAnglingExperience Roger that ! Thanks ! I appreciate you getting back to me !! Getting ready to order stowaway mount..code KAE10 still available ??

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  3 года назад

      @@petergozinya2607 yes sir

    • @petergozinya2607
      @petergozinya2607 3 года назад

      @@KansasAnglingExperience sweeeeeeeet thanks brother !!

  • @thomastabor5333
    @thomastabor5333 2 года назад

    What lake do you fish in Kansas, I’m from Louisiana?

  • @davidspoonholtz6900
    @davidspoonholtz6900 Год назад

    What Garmin are you running?

  • @jimmiecampbell4357
    @jimmiecampbell4357 3 года назад

    THX!! "EXPERTS" DON"T DO ENOUGH ON BASICS OF HOW TO PROCESS THRU SCREEN TO ADJUST SETTINGS FOR BEGINNERS. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING USED TO LIVESCOPE. I GET FRUSTRATED & END UP BACK TO USING MY "BIRDS 2D & DI". TAKES FOR THE HELP. FROM A FRUSTRATED NEW LIVESCOPE OWNER.,

  • @affanmohamed6408
    @affanmohamed6408 Год назад

    Which model of live scope is that?

  • @pescadorkayakeyro8009
    @pescadorkayakeyro8009 2 года назад

    Hi, I have a livescope but I can't configure it. The screen gets a lot of interference. Can you help me?

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  2 года назад

      Change your noise reject, TVG, and gain until it looks like how you want it.

  • @RushVoorhisOutdoors
    @RushVoorhisOutdoors 3 года назад

    is the 10 inch screen worth it ?

  • @lucaslindsey8416
    @lucaslindsey8416 2 года назад

    I have a problem where I can’t see my bait when I cast out in front of the boat

  • @lonniehall9006
    @lonniehall9006 2 года назад

    The plus units will not work with the new 34 livescope transducer. Kentucky

  • @mightyarmoryprecision
    @mightyarmoryprecision 3 года назад

    Can you explain the use of the 18 volt battery..

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  3 года назад

      Because it weighs 70 lbs less than a normal battery and 1/8 of the size.

    • @mightyarmoryprecision
      @mightyarmoryprecision 3 года назад

      @@KansasAnglingExperience 18 volts into a 12 volt system?

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  3 года назад +1

      @@mightyarmoryprecision a 12 volt system…? The Echomap units max voltage is 18…said that in the video.

    • @mightyarmoryprecision
      @mightyarmoryprecision 3 года назад

      Saw your earlier video, bought all the parts from Seelite, Batteries on Amazon.
      Thx!

  • @lonniemccaskill7049
    @lonniemccaskill7049 Год назад

    Will this Livescope show turtles or alligators?

  • @mastermouaable
    @mastermouaable Год назад

    Is this the LV32 or LV34 model?

  • @barnwoodbuilder
    @barnwoodbuilder 3 года назад +1

    I have the Garmin 93sv like you have can you tell me what gps trolling motor works best to link to this unit THANKS

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  3 года назад

      Garmin Force is the only one you can “link” but it does not follow contours.

  • @IndianaNature
    @IndianaNature Год назад

    Just got mine and hitting the lake tomorrow to dial it in. Lake I am hitting is far from clear.

  • @wyattporterfield4649
    @wyattporterfield4649 2 года назад

    Very good

  • @teamslaiyans3808
    @teamslaiyans3808 Год назад

    Link to the ram mount ?

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  Год назад +1

      Not sure man, I stopped using that stuff a long time ago and use SeeLite poles now. Just search size C ram mount.

  • @lljustice3877
    @lljustice3877 3 года назад

    I know this is an older video but I was hoping to ask question. Knowing the cone forward is only 20 degrees, I’m sure it has to be a tight window to cast out and actually see your lure falling. Also, how difficult is it to keep the transducer kinda locked in on a spot with only a 20degree sliver to work with?
    Do you have or will be doing any videos that talks about and actually shows how you do it?
    I have not bought a Livescope yet but trying to gather as much info as I can.
    Thank you

  • @dextermyrick8468
    @dextermyrick8468 2 года назад

    Thanks

  • @kurtgottschick1528
    @kurtgottschick1528 2 года назад

    How do disiffer different types of fish

  • @____Hugo____
    @____Hugo____ 3 года назад

    Thanks for doing another settings video bud! I had forgot about color gain til I saw this, definitely left it on auto the last time I went out and I was having issues seeing my jig!
    Thanks for the reminder 👊🏼

  • @juntae597
    @juntae597 2 года назад

    Battery 12.6v? 16.8v? 24v? Help me.

  • @SteakmanTexas
    @SteakmanTexas 3 года назад

    Thank you for the video. I will try the color gain for sure.

  • @ZZ430T56
    @ZZ430T56 2 года назад

    Ty, but for those that don't know, this video is old and does not apply to the newer update

  • @tonyduran4764
    @tonyduran4764 Год назад

    Pay the man for this info you tube

  • @vanfalls8296
    @vanfalls8296 3 месяца назад +1

    Best video but slow down a bit ..I can't hear that fast..

  • @CaptYale68
    @CaptYale68 3 года назад

    When would you use the perspective mode. I fish lots of hydrilla edges in 10’+

  • @Dbars19
    @Dbars19 3 года назад

    my biggest tip for live scope. dont go with a screen unit under 10 inches

    • @dannykrumnow729
      @dannykrumnow729 3 года назад

      Why do you say not less than 10?

    • @Dbars19
      @Dbars19 3 года назад

      @@dannykrumnow729 easier to see. Your standing on a boat looking down. Its not right next to your like your console graphs.

  • @joelknutson5194
    @joelknutson5194 3 года назад

    Very helpful video!

  • @GAiml-mw2mv
    @GAiml-mw2mv Год назад

    Mediocre videography due to glare and reflections. Too bad because your info was good.

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  Год назад

      Mediocre comment due to no one else really cares. Listen more and look less then.

  • @genealford5857
    @genealford5857 3 года назад

    For someone who just got their Livescope, you talk way too fast . Please talk and explain slower. Your very fast touching controls is almost useless.

    • @KansasAnglingExperience
      @KansasAnglingExperience  3 года назад +2

      Well, it’s a good thing you can play the video back hey? I’ve had Livescope for quite some time.