Imagine how fucking funny it would be if Araki wrote another thus spoke Kshibe Rohan story and its about Rohan fighting an AI artist thats stealing from his manga 💀
Just imagine the duel is just like the scene between Rohan sensei and Josuke's dice game. Rohan is mad as hell and keeps on insulting the AI Artist. Then the AI artist altered the reality and the game results with AI. But when Rohan thought he was about to lose. The AI stand messed up and backfired the owner.
I notice his wording implies a concern over intentional impersonation and plagiarism, which is something I think is a bigger, more real, concern than AI itself. And it needs to be addressed as AI inevitably advances. Those who use AI must be honest about it.
Then there needs to be regulations and legal action against the dishonest. You can't trust that random people who hide behind an avatar online are going to be honest. It's sucks, but it's true... Something I've learned is that so many people are doing this, even people who we previously thought had a better moral compass. Regulations. It's our only hope. We are down to the wire.
There was a survey from Shonen Jump Rookie, with 2 questions asking if we'd like AI manga to be allowed or even getting tools to make them. I answered: if we don't allow pirated manga, then we shouldn't allow AI manga. It's not ethical, and insulting toward mangaka. NO AI MANGA ON JUMP!!! And there was a "mangaka" aka scammer on the same Jump Rookie, who was bragging that his "manga" was in the TOP10 though it was an AI manga. His manga didn't win a prize, but these manga shouldn't be allowed on any of these plateforms. AI manga is pirated manga.
Proper politicians are visionaries, try to foresee the future & come up with good regulations. Corrupt politicians live in the now, not bothering doing anything except what benefits them. Most politicians are corrupt.
I hope that the Manga Industry can hit a, DAGA KOTOARU! and do a 180, but you know what they say, hope for the best, prepare for the worst. And, like video games, the only thing that we can do is vote with our wallets.
@@ketsi3079 AI just came into existence like 2 years ago. The cultural shift and the general consensus on how to use it and ethics and morals are not fully formed yet. Take a look at how you can't search up images now because half of them are AI and there's no filter or transparency on if ai is used. There's also the fact that having a robot do 80% of the work that you've been doing for your entire life can just tank self esteem and other personal factors. Also: if you use ai, what stops someone else using the same ai from claiming their work is yours and vice versa?
@@benp.865 human imitate eatch other, how else they learn? why AI imitation and human imitation is different from eatch other? yes the ai quality is still bad but it get better in time when trained. yes the ai will "steal" everyones job but rather than making them steal make them work for you so now you get the benefits. ai will come inevitable and no one can stop it, humans just have to play smart and take advantage from it as thats the reason why ai exist in first place
One thing to note is that regardless of regulation, sadly over time this is going to take over. Countries like China won't care for regulation nor copyright and will keep improving this tech, and customers will go where quality works are. Tough years ahead for the manga industry but I hope we can find a good solution and fast.
The most we are probably going to get out of the anti AI Wars is Enforced Ethical disclaimers that have to legally disclose the usage of AI in Art and productions with the penalty of Fines if violated.
Completely agree with Araki-sensei on this. Even if you can make good looking art with AI, I think it's not worth depending on it if you seriously want to become an artist. Doesn't matter how advance the AI becomes, is never gonna give you the same satisfaction than an artwork made with your passion and dedication, and the experience you get by learning to make art step by step, year after year And also, if anyone, absolutely anyone, can make a piece of the same level as Araki-sensei's, for example, with AI, makes the idea of becoming an artist pointless for everyone. Since, companies wouldn't need to hire anyone to produce mangas or official artworks for their products anymore Art, and the joy that comes with making art, would cease to exist. So, even if it's a fun experiment, and there are times when I enjoyed watching some AI artworks... At the end of the day, I think is best to keep AI separated from art in general, and use it instead for other things that could be more benefitial in the long run Now, you have people like PewDiePie himself, who despite starting to draw and practice at an older age that most artists do, he was able to improve his skill to such level, that is hard to believe that he just started a bit longer than a year ago. And it's not because of his wealth, lifestyle or fame that he achieved this; he did it because he wasn't trying to find the easy, or quickest way out, rather, he took his time to learn properly without taking any shortcuts I'll give you this: perhaps is because he only focused on enjoying the process of learning, without caring about a career, profit, or attention on social media, that he could put all his efforts into making every stroke, every line, every shape count. And little by little, he got an impressive result, that only went even more impressive, as he took that 365 days challenge What I'm saying is, when comes to art, in any form, including things like music, there are not shortcuts, there are not cheat codes or tools to become a good artist faster; much less to become one of the few who achieve fame and make a living out of it. And natural potential can only get you so far, if you don't make the sacrifice necessary to get better each day, step by step, and eventually develop your talent So my conclusion is: the use of AI should be limited to other things outside of a creative field, being game developing perhaps the only exception I can think of. And seriously, at the end of the day, is far more rewarding making your career as artist using your own talent, rather than letting a computer program doing it for you. It just cheapens the joy of it, to such a degree, that being an artist wouldn't be a dream, but rather a nightmare; specially if you later have to deal with things like imposter syndrome Taking the easy way out may feel like a blessing, but sooner or later, will turn into a curse that you may never get rid off. At least, y'know? If you're as passionate about art as I am
@@TheTuberguy1000 Actually, I was taught how to do it in high school, but I never did it more than one time... Heh, maybe if things continue to progress in the way they are, I may have to do it again, but in a more unorthodox fashion. My chosen path in life is filled with many wonders :D
I just want to tell every one about the program “Nightshade” if you’re an artist and don’t want AIs stealing your art you run you’re art pice through the program and it puts a pixilated film over the art that people can’t see but will poison generative AIs abilities.
@ No. As far as I know Nightshade is like an antivirus, AI update to outsmart it and the developers of nightshade update it accordingly. It’s better than no protection at all.
Im not too sure but this kinda programs that make your art ''ai unstealeable'' sound like bs/scams to me, as someone who knows a little about computers it doesn't sound too out there that someone can develope a counter-program that can ''smooth out'' the errors introduced on purpose on the pixels of an image, making it so you can have something that its extremely close to the original, seeing as programs that scale images or make them have higher quality exist. imo, i wouldn't trust them at all
I need an AI to analyze 1000s of hate comments directed toward artists, then have it come up with a hundred phrases and words that are strong indicators of seething artist-hating AI bros - phrases that should be automatically flagged for moderation in my spaces. Hahaha
Otakus already switched to JCB card (or have tons of other japanese only payment possibility) foreigners can pay with bitcash in Japanese websites so it is not a huge issue. Ken Akamatsu the manga library z owner are a politician. Politicians like to make dramatic moves. At this point censorship in Japan only really affected photorealistic ai and daz3d artists, but not drawings.
you know what would help in this situation, protesting against those people here in our country, who're trying to force Japan to censor the manga's, and get them to stop pestering the Manga Industry.
The only way to make SURE that won't happens is go full Imperium of man way. Yes I know artists are worry about it, but do we really want to make SURE it never happens? Anything short of that would not be enough sooner or later as AI tech are advancing quickly. What we need to do is review the entire copyright legal framework instead of suppressing tech. Because that way we can solve the root problem instead of giving the artists may be a few decades or at best 1 generation.
I image in the future IP holders could request image generators to remove their IP under the idea of enforcing their right to privacy. It would be similar to how we request data brokers to delete their data on us.
@jormungand72no because if you drew something you created it as long as it's not a copy of something else, the problem is that AI makes copies by Frankensteining other peoples art
@@InfamyOrDeath-__- While that is true, artists still have to put in the work. Ai? Copy, paste, generate. Is that morally ok with people? Most would say no. It’s like if there were two people in a competition, one popped steroids and the other trained his ass off. In pretty much all competitions, the guy using steroids would automatically be disqualified for cheating. Replace steroids with generative ai and worked his ass off muscleman with and artist who worked his ass off and you might see the problem with how no ai regulations could affect artists.
As i much as i dislike the idea (I work in tech but i'm also creative-ish and i recognize the hard work artist make), AI is so difficult to regulate that I think it either must be banned or not be regulated at all. There's no in-between.
@@Sweetdude64 no. Not really. Because impersonation is a whole separate issue for which AI is just a new tool. In the past people have impersonated others by reposting the art of someone else as theirs. In fact AI users have been affected by this too. Since those who learn to get good results sometimes get impersonated by people who don't even use AI. They just download the image and repost it. Impersonators are the problem. Not AI itself.
For the regulation, i think it should be becfesary to label it, neccesary to tell what prompts were used/ what the inteded outcome was, and can't be used for profit, other than off if ones own original creations ( for example, Disney using AI for a show of mickey mouse)
Artist really do need to unite together to pass a worldwide law to prevent their artworks from being used as ai references. Lock their names from the system if you will. But its all impossible with how divided and corrupt the world is
Hey look, the Ai bot bros came out of the woodwork in the comments to explain to us how AI is great, how it sticks it up to the snobs of the art world, and how no regulations should be put in place whatsoever in order to stop its use as a tool of artistic theft made for scammers and money-hungry corporations... lol, like they say. Lmao, even.
they always do this. one goblin blows the trumpet in the prompter discord and next thing you know a bunch of vile cretins are rage-responding to every comment that is slightly negative about the only thing in the world giving them a (false) sense of accomplishment.
More and more reasons why when I started writing my own mangas to be eventually distributed for free. There is no job security in this field anymore, to stand out from the AI apocalypse is gonna take drastic sacrifice.
AI is pretty cool and has some very legit use cases (I'm well aware of the hatred AI gets from artists). Problem is it can be used for malicious reasons. It's not cool to make artwork and pass it off as something someone made that actually did not make. You can also make pictures and videos of real people committing crimes. Or real pictures of crimes being committed that are intentionally mislabeled as AI. AI is still a thing though and that genie isn't going back in the bottle. It's hard to say what a working solution to this will be, but we do need one if at all possible as AI is quickly becoming indistinguishable from the real thing.
The courts in the US has already ruled that Ai generated content cannot be copy-writ. I myself use it to generate images for memes or to generate images for YT thumbnails. I have even incorporated Ai video for some clips I have made while editing people's channel. It is a great tool that saves me a lot of time. As with any tool, people will abuse it. I made an AI music video, with all content being generated by AI. I just wanted to see how easy it was.
There something similar, theres a serie called Ghostblade a fully AI generated "Manga", but its really good story and visual( of course) and in the sense that can help writers without much drawing skills shine, I think its amazing.
but writers without drawing skills can just... write a book, right? If they're japanese and become successful, their work will get a manga adaptation eventually.
They'll be replaced by machines in the long run. That means no humans behind the manga artists, bad customers service, horrible bugs and glitches in games and or no parches. But people still are none the wiser on the damages it can create . 😢😢😢😢
Regulations ALWAYS makes things worse. That said, AI is not consistent enough to create a full manga page, much less so an entire series. We are nowhere near the point of using only AI to illustrate (or write for that matter) something that's not a one-off. Also, identifying AI art is not that hard most of the time. They always feel kinda samey, without respecting any rule of composition or colour theory.
Yes I totally agree, we need to be taking power away from politicians, not give them more, we need to cut regulations, not increase them, especially something like AI art.
Statistically though, if all material trained on follows colour theory and composition, then the output from the AI would follow it. Seemingly many fan artists do not follow them either, and that is why the training data is mixed and the AI outputs are more random.
what if ai art was forced to use a watermark to indicate that they it was made using ai. or some other clear way to tell whether something was made by ai or not
I feel like for me, there just have to be regulations that you can't impersonate someone and have punishments for that. Nothing wrong with AI stuff until the "artists" start to claim that they drew it or that it's someone else drew it
Ai can make pictures. It can't make art. Art needs intent. A tree is beautiful yes, but it's not art. Only when intent and intention is put into something does it become art.
When i first heard of Ai art, i dais it would be ideal if artist had their own AI to learn from then , so they could have their work made easier, but ofc tech bros quick cash is first and everything will be extremely awful, where the con artists have all the profit while the author suffers.
Well how I'd imaging using AI for drawing manga and comic it to do like a sketch, use AI to clean the sketch and make it look more composed maybe give it some style maybe from a refence sheet you the character you made, trace over the image add your own touches and style and corrections, Color in with AI, then make color corrections and add lettering and done.
And Disney created copyright law. Anyone thinking that regulation is a solution to the tidal wave of AI garbage overtaking all media in the world is delusional.
@@BloodrealmX But then we as humans would never advance or move forward. I want to see AI evolve because that is what we have been working towards for a long time.
AI just steals, it could never actually make art, art is emotion put into paper, music or a computer and a dumb computer could never understand things like emotion
That Furry Miku AI art threw me for a loop, it deliberately uses imperfections as part of its mimicry, digital artist here, it's a shame to stare in awe at an artpiece only to realize it's artificial ~
AI don't bypass copyright, no? Doesn't matter if you draw it yourself, copy a digital file or use AI, if you try to make money with copyrighted material you can be sued. It's not like photoshop never existed before. If I was a japanese artist, I'll be more worried about wokism attacking manga & anime through credit card companies.
Ai completely bypass copyright laws because it’s fair use. For example Araki never drew something that GenAi did as end result piece. However, whoever did prompt genAi to do so have more rights for this piece than Araki because without prompt end result would not exist. Simple.
Ai completely bypass copyright laws because it’s fair use. For example Araki never drew something that GenAi did as end result piece. However, whoever did prompt genAi to do so have more rights for this piece than Araki because without prompt end result would not exist. Simple.
I think it does bypass when it comes to the usage of its inputs for the models though. But in the US the outputs cannot be copyrighted because "they're not made by humans" (according to the Copyright Office).
For digital work is going to be harder to verify if that work has been made by a human there’s still some way to verify it’s been made by a human but not sure how long that will last. Unless you do the work in real life first. And for regulation, that will be a great issue. Companies will maybe fight for certain things of the regulation government. On the other hand, maybe will jump in because they had a hard time verifying certain things. Then you have some countries that will not regulate AI at all because they see AI as the future of warfare and regulate certain things that will harm it. The only regulation I may see all groups will agree on is protection laws against all Deepfakes, and tampering a Videos of evidence and others yet to not know.
What if the Company that owns the A.I will trademark all manga artworks that the A.I generated 😂😂😂 or they want some share of profit that have been made😅.
UN terminating payment processors is really scary. They could take over the world like that, considering if people can't trade money they have to wave the white flag.
This is very bad. I for one don’t want ai art to overtake actual artists and threaten their livelihoods. This needs to stop or at the very least be regulated so people aren’t able to sell these ai fakes.
7:42 Forget the hands, AI has been able to replicate it without an entire year already. What you have to pay attention to is the shading on her thighs, which should be the main indicative of AI art imo. It doesn't even fit with the rest of the art style.
think about this, It will make fanfiction 1000% more accessible to nonartist. More degeneracy headcannon and internet culture. I have Absolutely no problem with ai copyright and everything if they label themselves to distinguish themselves as AI. Only have problem if they try to "con" others as real.
Japan and the US have two different copyright systems that descend from two separate theories on the the nature of rights. Most of the world uses the civil law model that rivals the American Locke model. Civil law has many protects for the author's honor and the integrity of their work. These protections could be used to defend the artist against AI. Large Japanese companies could strike AI generators as they have the potential to violate their authors personality rights. Under consumer privacy, In the US it is illegal for data collectors to hold your data after you request them to remove it. AI could be adapted into this framework to remove protected works from training data. Currently it seems the US is drafting up an AI bill of rights.
If AI makes tons of money, companies would easily lobby the government to ease any restriction. Its all about money at the end of the day. If u dont like it then dont buy it, the best thing u can do is vote with ur wallet.
On the bright side AI could be used to help out over worked mangakas. They could train an AI on a bunch of their work then have it "finish" sketches for them. Then manually correct any wonky AI mistakes.
I feel like this would actually be great for burgeoning mangaka’s since they often lack resources but face a similar level of crunch that the pros do. Big-time mangaka’s probably wouldn’t need it, because they’d have assistants. I think it should mostly be used for tedious stuff though, like background trees or other small stuff, a mangaka should be able to focus on their main illustrations.
This ain’t good. There has to be restrictions on AI so that real artists don’t get screwed over like this. I refuse to believe that real artists like this will be beaten by something a machine can spit out
You're a fool. Corporations and the average consumer will always choose cheaper slop churned out en masse over anything good. They don't care that it's bad. That's why AI needs to be destroyed and anyone using it needs to be given harsh enough punishment that nobody would dare risk it.
@sōs-uke Indeed. AI is for robots and AI president videos, not copyright infringement on manga artists or outright replacing human artists and animators.
I think Araki is worrying too much. Just because somebody can write a death threat with a pen, that doesn't mean we should over regulate a pen. A pen and AI are just tools.
AI slop is only getting worse sadly, one of the things I hated coming from it are the people saying something real is AI or just hyper analysing artworks and calling artist's mistakes out for AI. Besides AI being helpful for things like photoshop/editing, we genuinely don't need it in entertainment
My thoughts are like this. When they were shooting the first films, there were no computers, green backgrounds and other techniques that are now used to show us fictional worlds. Artists have the opportunity to work with artificial intelligence to create the art of the future together, where artificial intelligence itself will search for fakes and remove what is not created correctly! In principle, we need to educate artificial intelligence more than those who want to exploit it.
Don't worry about art, consider the risks of AI impersonating *YOU?* We know your face, voice and behavior/personality. Feed it into AI and we can replace you so well that nobody will notice unless they visit you IRL...
the problem is AI users are opportunist and can only seek for money also ego fulfillment. they don't bother to come up with storytelling. the moment shonen jump took over by them, the whole industry collapsed to a tiny atom. which probably good since you will get passionate indie publishing who use real art and witty story finally rise to surface
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I imagine araki making an enemy stand user based around this.
Part 10 let's goooooooo
Thus spoke kishebe rohan vs a stand user with daft punk song as a name.
May God help us all.
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Imagine how fucking funny it would be if Araki wrote another thus spoke Kshibe Rohan story and its about Rohan fighting an AI artist thats stealing from his manga 💀
I can see this happening already
This would actually be interested a stand user that create ai art
That would be dope ngl. And knowing Araki, he would nail the concept
Just imagine the duel is just like the scene between Rohan sensei and Josuke's dice game.
Rohan is mad as hell and keeps on insulting the AI Artist.
Then the AI artist altered the reality and the game results with AI.
But when Rohan thought he was about to lose. The AI stand messed up and backfired the owner.
But remember, he definitely isn't a self insert
Do it Araki.
Enemy stand named Virtual Insanity, please 🥹 it's now or never
Or An enemy that uses credit card and it's an American, Y'know?
Rage against the machine
So being worried about AI is now a Jojo's reference.
This must be the work of an enemy AI
It’s a baoh the visitor reference
Yes, Yes, Yes
Must be the work of an enemy stand
No, it's simply Araki writing about a very, very pressing issue.
You thought it was araki..
*BUT IT WAS ME! KONO AI DA!*
Don’t think I’ve ever been this early to a Chibi video before
Sane😂
Webtoons:"First time?"
I notice his wording implies a concern over intentional impersonation and plagiarism, which is something I think is a bigger, more real, concern than AI itself. And it needs to be addressed as AI inevitably advances. Those who use AI must be honest about it.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo absolutely agree with this. Transparency about the usage of AI is definitely a bare minimum in regulating anything
Then there needs to be regulations and legal action against the dishonest. You can't trust that random people who hide behind an avatar online are going to be honest. It's sucks, but it's true... Something I've learned is that so many people are doing this, even people who we previously thought had a better moral compass.
Regulations. It's our only hope. We are down to the wire.
There was a survey from Shonen Jump Rookie, with 2 questions asking if we'd like AI manga to be allowed or even getting tools to make them. I answered: if we don't allow pirated manga, then we shouldn't allow AI manga. It's not ethical, and insulting toward mangaka. NO AI MANGA ON JUMP!!!
And there was a "mangaka" aka scammer on the same Jump Rookie, who was bragging that his "manga" was in the TOP10 though it was an AI manga. His manga didn't win a prize, but these manga shouldn't be allowed on any of these plateforms. AI manga is pirated manga.
A.I. should be regulated. The problem is our politician are too corrupt and too moronic to even come up with a regulation.
Proper politicians are visionaries, try to foresee the future & come up with good regulations.
Corrupt politicians live in the now, not bothering doing anything except what benefits them.
Most politicians are corrupt.
What are you even on abt ai should be ever-present. You are telling we should limit our own capabilities just bc of manga
They will start regulation when it hurts them meaning when Ai is used to make mockery of them😂
They can't even deal with credit card companies becoming too powerful, which is quite simple to address much less something complex such as AI.
"...are too corrupt and too moronic to even come up with a regulation."
You find those types of politicians everywhere.
i see nothing but facts from Araki
They literally don't have a clue what they're talking about.
@@Sweetdude64 It's an exaggeration of the potential future but ai "artists" are frauds and con artists if they charge for their "art"
@@Sweetdude64He*
@@Jacksontrooper777Did you assume their pronouns? You bigot, go educate yourself.
@Sweetdude64 the fact that you used they on Araki shows that you don't know who you're talking about 😂
The rise of AI to this level in such a short time...must be the power of an enemy stand...
I hope that the Manga Industry can hit a, DAGA KOTOARU! and do a 180, but you know what they say, hope for the best, prepare for the worst. And, like video games, the only thing that we can do is vote with our wallets.
why cant they just take advantage of AI? it could make their work so mutch faster to teach AI to draw how you like
@@ketsi3079that would suck, why would I wanna look at some cheap imitation of actual art. At this point I'd just rather read light novels
@@ketsi3079 AI just came into existence like 2 years ago. The cultural shift and the general consensus on how to use it and ethics and morals are not fully formed yet. Take a look at how you can't search up images now because half of them are AI and there's no filter or transparency on if ai is used. There's also the fact that having a robot do 80% of the work that you've been doing for your entire life can just tank self esteem and other personal factors.
Also: if you use ai, what stops someone else using the same ai from claiming their work is yours and vice versa?
@@benp.865 human imitate eatch other, how else they learn? why AI imitation and human imitation is different from eatch other? yes the ai quality is still bad but it get better in time when trained. yes the ai will "steal" everyones job but rather than making them steal make them work for you so now you get the benefits. ai will come inevitable and no one can stop it, humans just have to play smart and take advantage from it as thats the reason why ai exist in first place
@@whywhy8276 poepl already steal othe people art without ai and claim them to be their
The goat Araki I know he going to make a villain a AI
One thing to note is that regardless of regulation, sadly over time this is going to take over. Countries like China won't care for regulation nor copyright and will keep improving this tech, and customers will go where quality works are. Tough years ahead for the manga industry but I hope we can find a good solution and fast.
The most we are probably going to get out of the anti AI Wars is Enforced Ethical disclaimers that have to legally disclose the usage of AI in Art and productions with the penalty of Fines if violated.
Completely agree with Araki-sensei on this. Even if you can make good looking art with AI, I think it's not worth depending on it if you seriously want to become an artist. Doesn't matter how advance the AI becomes, is never gonna give you the same satisfaction than an artwork made with your passion and dedication, and the experience you get by learning to make art step by step, year after year
And also, if anyone, absolutely anyone, can make a piece of the same level as Araki-sensei's, for example, with AI, makes the idea of becoming an artist pointless for everyone. Since, companies wouldn't need to hire anyone to produce mangas or official artworks for their products anymore
Art, and the joy that comes with making art, would cease to exist. So, even if it's a fun experiment, and there are times when I enjoyed watching some AI artworks... At the end of the day, I think is best to keep AI separated from art in general, and use it instead for other things that could be more benefitial in the long run
Now, you have people like PewDiePie himself, who despite starting to draw and practice at an older age that most artists do, he was able to improve his skill to such level, that is hard to believe that he just started a bit longer than a year ago. And it's not because of his wealth, lifestyle or fame that he achieved this; he did it because he wasn't trying to find the easy, or quickest way out, rather, he took his time to learn properly without taking any shortcuts
I'll give you this: perhaps is because he only focused on enjoying the process of learning, without caring about a career, profit, or attention on social media, that he could put all his efforts into making every stroke, every line, every shape count. And little by little, he got an impressive result, that only went even more impressive, as he took that 365 days challenge
What I'm saying is, when comes to art, in any form, including things like music, there are not shortcuts, there are not cheat codes or tools to become a good artist faster; much less to become one of the few who achieve fame and make a living out of it. And natural potential can only get you so far, if you don't make the sacrifice necessary to get better each day, step by step, and eventually develop your talent
So my conclusion is: the use of AI should be limited to other things outside of a creative field, being game developing perhaps the only exception I can think of. And seriously, at the end of the day, is far more rewarding making your career as artist using your own talent, rather than letting a computer program doing it for you. It just cheapens the joy of it, to such a degree, that being an artist wouldn't be a dream, but rather a nightmare; specially if you later have to deal with things like imposter syndrome
Taking the easy way out may feel like a blessing, but sooner or later, will turn into a curse that you may never get rid off. At least, y'know? If you're as passionate about art as I am
Learn to weld
@@TheTuberguy1000 Actually, I was taught how to do it in high school, but I never did it more than one time... Heh, maybe if things continue to progress in the way they are, I may have to do it again, but in a more unorthodox fashion. My chosen path in life is filled with many wonders :D
What it does though is allows any normie to make any art they want without going through all the hassles that come with it.
I just want to tell every one about the program “Nightshade” if you’re an artist and don’t want AIs stealing your art you run you’re art pice through the program and it puts a pixilated film over the art that people can’t see but will poison generative AIs abilities.
Didn't Nightshade become obsolete like a year and a half ago?
@ No. As far as I know Nightshade is like an antivirus, AI update to outsmart it and the developers of nightshade update it accordingly. It’s better than no protection at all.
@jormungand72 I take it you’ve never drawn anything, not once in your life have you?
Nightshade has been proven to not work.
Im not too sure but this kinda programs that make your art ''ai unstealeable'' sound like bs/scams to me, as someone who knows a little about computers it doesn't sound too out there that someone can develope a counter-program that can ''smooth out'' the errors introduced on purpose on the pixels of an image, making it so you can have something that its extremely close to the original, seeing as programs that scale images or make them have higher quality exist.
imo, i wouldn't trust them at all
Bro has not seen the amount of AI R34 art or at least those shaded by AI. You know when its too smooth for a real person to bother shading all that.
I need an AI to analyze 1000s of hate comments directed toward artists, then have it come up with a hundred phrases and words that are strong indicators of seething artist-hating AI bros - phrases that should be automatically flagged for moderation in my spaces. Hahaha
Maybe the next Jojo villain will have the ability to replicate other Stand powers
as an animator this is hard for us too
I see araki, I see furudo erika, I click and like
There are always people who abuses anything til the golden goose is dead
I was worried this was about censorship, phew
Sadly its also another growing issue
Censorship is a bigger problem, but intentional impersonators are a problem too. And impersonators will use any technology to do as they please.
Otakus already switched to JCB card (or have tons of other japanese only payment possibility) foreigners can pay with bitcash in Japanese websites so it is not a huge issue.
Ken Akamatsu the manga library z owner are a politician. Politicians like to make dramatic moves.
At this point censorship in Japan only really affected photorealistic ai and daz3d artists, but not drawings.
No doubt we're gonna get an AI reference or Stand in Jojolands based on AI in the near future.
You don’t really need new laws. Existing laws could be used to go after ppl drawing copyrighted art and selling them
Please do not advocate for this. This is just going to make fan art even less of a grey area for copyright infringement.
@ so many ai fan art are a lot better than original
@@outforbeer That doesn't stop fan art from being threatened because of these draconian laws
@@outforbeerpeople like you ruin the art community for everyone.
@@outforbeer your a sick invidual. so your lazy then.
you know what would help in this situation, protesting against those people here in our country, who're trying to force Japan to censor the manga's, and get them to stop pestering the Manga Industry.
Coke has already tapped into the AI space with a new AI generated Christmas ad
that miku drawing looked so real
I reject my humanity conventional artist.
The only way to make SURE that won't happens is go full Imperium of man way. Yes I know artists are worry about it, but do we really want to make SURE it never happens? Anything short of that would not be enough sooner or later as AI tech are advancing quickly. What we need to do is review the entire copyright legal framework instead of suppressing tech. Because that way we can solve the root problem instead of giving the artists may be a few decades or at best 1 generation.
I image in the future IP holders could request image generators to remove their IP under the idea of enforcing their right to privacy. It would be similar to how we request data brokers to delete their data on us.
@jormungand72no because if you drew something you created it as long as it's not a copy of something else, the problem is that AI makes copies by Frankensteining other peoples art
@@AlexT7916Every single artist in history has done that at some point, they’ve all used other people art as a reference, that’s all AI is doing.
@InfamyOrDeath-__- AI can ONLY do that, that's the problem
@@InfamyOrDeath-__- While that is true, artists still have to put in the work. Ai? Copy, paste, generate. Is that morally ok with people? Most would say no. It’s like if there were two people in a competition, one popped steroids and the other trained his ass off. In pretty much all competitions, the guy using steroids would automatically be disqualified for cheating. Replace steroids with generative ai and worked his ass off muscleman with and artist who worked his ass off and you might see the problem with how no ai regulations could affect artists.
As i much as i dislike the idea (I work in tech but i'm also creative-ish and i recognize the hard work artist make), AI is so difficult to regulate that I think it either must be banned or not be regulated at all. There's no in-between.
I could see the rioting
Society favors the talentless, so I think more of these "Artists" will only continue to appear and steal from those that put hard work into their art.
Your blatant lies aren't going to work. It's almost baffling how easily you can manipulate sheep
@jormungand72 sure, when you pick up a pencil
It is only stolen if it is intentional impersonation. Which has been a problem before.
@SergioLeonardoCornejo you're reasonable, but I'd go even farther and say the original copy has to be directly effected^
@@Sweetdude64 no. Not really. Because impersonation is a whole separate issue for which AI is just a new tool. In the past people have impersonated others by reposting the art of someone else as theirs.
In fact AI users have been affected by this too. Since those who learn to get good results sometimes get impersonated by people who don't even use AI. They just download the image and repost it.
Impersonators are the problem. Not AI itself.
For the regulation, i think it should be becfesary to label it, neccesary to tell what prompts were used/ what the inteded outcome was, and can't be used for profit, other than off if ones own original creations ( for example, Disney using AI for a show of mickey mouse)
Artist really do need to unite together to pass a worldwide law to prevent their artworks from being used as ai references. Lock their names from the system if you will. But its all impossible with how divided and corrupt the world is
If Araki is saying this, it's a huge problem 💀
Hey look, the Ai bot bros came out of the woodwork in the comments to explain to us how AI is great, how it sticks it up to the snobs of the art world, and how no regulations should be put in place whatsoever in order to stop its use as a tool of artistic theft made for scammers and money-hungry corporations... lol, like they say. Lmao, even.
they always do this. one goblin blows the trumpet in the prompter discord and next thing you know a bunch of vile cretins are rage-responding to every comment that is slightly negative about the only thing in the world giving them a (false) sense of accomplishment.
More and more reasons why when I started writing my own mangas to be eventually distributed for free. There is no job security in this field anymore, to stand out from the AI apocalypse is gonna take drastic sacrifice.
AI is pretty cool and has some very legit use cases (I'm well aware of the hatred AI gets from artists). Problem is it can be used for malicious reasons.
It's not cool to make artwork and pass it off as something someone made that actually did not make. You can also make pictures and videos of real people committing crimes. Or real pictures of crimes being committed that are intentionally mislabeled as AI.
AI is still a thing though and that genie isn't going back in the bottle. It's hard to say what a working solution to this will be, but we do need one if at all possible as AI is quickly becoming indistinguishable from the real thing.
Everyone should be more worried about credit cards attacking them at the source. AI will be irrelevant in comparison.
The courts in the US has already ruled that Ai generated content cannot be copy-writ. I myself use it to generate images for memes or to generate images for YT thumbnails. I have even incorporated Ai video for some clips I have made while editing people's channel. It is a great tool that saves me a lot of time. As with any tool, people will abuse it. I made an AI music video, with all content being generated by AI. I just wanted to see how easy it was.
This could work if used correctly.
There something similar, theres a serie called Ghostblade a fully AI generated "Manga", but its really good story and visual( of course) and in the sense that can help writers without much drawing skills shine, I think its amazing.
but writers without drawing skills can just... write a book, right? If they're japanese and become successful, their work will get a manga adaptation eventually.
😢p😊😊
Writers can do whatever they want. How entitled u are to say what others should use or not @@kassiny2
I think the standard for what it means for an artwork to be good is very much gonna change
It's the 666 beast system at work
How so Alphonse?
@elimDBZ because Ai is soulless it's not the hard work of a person taking there time to learn a craft
They finna come up with technology that will allow you to create your own manga via AI. They wanna replace human creativity with soulless machines.
Wait a minute... is this vid a JOJO REFERENCE!?
jokes aside scary times
Rohan fight against A.I gonna be peak fiction.
They'll be replaced by machines in the long run. That means no humans behind the manga artists, bad customers service, horrible bugs and glitches in games and or no parches. But people still are none the wiser on the damages it can create . 😢😢😢😢
Regulations ALWAYS makes things worse.
That said, AI is not consistent enough to create a full manga page, much less so an entire series. We are nowhere near the point of using only AI to illustrate (or write for that matter) something that's not a one-off.
Also, identifying AI art is not that hard most of the time. They always feel kinda samey, without respecting any rule of composition or colour theory.
Yes I totally agree, we need to be taking power away from politicians, not give them more, we need to cut regulations, not increase them, especially something like AI art.
Statistically though, if all material trained on follows colour theory and composition, then the output from the AI would follow it.
Seemingly many fan artists do not follow them either, and that is why the training data is mixed and the AI outputs are more random.
@@linusgustafsson2629 There is more to that, actually. AI art lacks "soul". It's not a clear cut thing, but you can always notice.
what if ai art was forced to use a watermark to indicate that they it was made using ai.
or some other clear way to tell whether something was made by ai or not
at this point ai is just the anubis stand
I feel like for me, there just have to be regulations that you can't impersonate someone and have punishments for that. Nothing wrong with AI stuff until the "artists" start to claim that they drew it or that it's someone else drew it
Don't tell me they want to patent art style too 😅
Washis art just a duplication of old panels or did the ai create its own completely separate piece in his style to the point of not being able to tell
Great 👍🏻 video nice 👍🏻 hype!!!!!!!!!!
Ai can make pictures.
It can't make art.
Art needs intent. A tree is beautiful yes, but it's not art. Only when intent and intention is put into something does it become art.
When i first heard of Ai art, i dais it would be ideal if artist had their own AI to learn from then , so they could have their work made easier, but ofc tech bros quick cash is first and everything will be extremely awful, where the con artists have all the profit while the author suffers.
The situation of and AI art is completely out of control
Well how I'd imaging using AI for drawing manga and comic it to do like a sketch, use AI to clean the sketch and make it look more composed maybe give it some style maybe from a refence sheet you the character you made, trace over the image add your own touches and style and corrections, Color in with AI, then make color corrections and add lettering and done.
There is nothing in life that wont be tainted...Nothing.
Any medium never needs an industry. It needs to be respected. Gerry Rafferty knows that.
He's right
Man thats scary
Even disney use AI art for secret invasion AI shouldn't had exited it's just fake art
And Disney created copyright law. Anyone thinking that regulation is a solution to the tidal wave of AI garbage overtaking all media in the world is delusional.
The ai creators should be sued for copyright
Copyright laws won't ever stop this. They need to ban the AI tech and give a punishment for using it so harsh that nobody would dare to risk it.
@@BloodrealmX But then we as humans would never advance or move forward. I want to see AI evolve because that is what we have been working towards for a long time.
@@Mcng2343 this just proves you don't know a thing about how copyright actually works
@@BloodrealmX you are literally a psychopath advocating for such extreme fallacies.
Go live in an Amish community if you're so afraid, hypocrite.
@@anthonyschlott916 what a horrible argument.
AI just steals, it could never actually make art, art is emotion put into paper, music or a computer and a dumb computer could never understand things like emotion
For now. But even then people can easily edit in emotion
@@RaNgErs_Rep It'd be uncanny, they'd have to put effort into it.
You have no clue what you are talking about, such ignorance is baffling.
@@AscendantStoic quiet prompter. you are nothing but a greasy slug wriggling on the ground, wasting the air of worthwhile people.
As the person above me said, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
AI will 1000% be able to copy “emotions” as you say. Just you wait & see
You can't copyright an art style though.
Hello there again :D
That Furry Miku AI art threw me for a loop, it deliberately uses imperfections as part of its mimicry, digital artist here, it's a shame to stare in awe at an artpiece only to realize it's artificial ~
AI don't bypass copyright, no? Doesn't matter if you draw it yourself, copy a digital file or use AI, if you try to make money with copyrighted material you can be sued. It's not like photoshop never existed before. If I was a japanese artist, I'll be more worried about wokism attacking manga & anime through credit card companies.
Ai completely bypass copyright laws because it’s fair use.
For example Araki never drew something that GenAi did as end result piece.
However, whoever did prompt genAi to do so have more rights for this piece than Araki because without prompt end result would not exist.
Simple.
Ai completely bypass copyright laws because it’s fair use.
For example Araki never drew something that GenAi did as end result piece.
However, whoever did prompt genAi to do so have more rights for this piece than Araki because without prompt end result would not exist.
Simple.
I think it does bypass when it comes to the usage of its inputs for the models though.
But in the US the outputs cannot be copyrighted because "they're not made by humans" (according to the Copyright Office).
For digital work is going to be harder to verify if that work has been made by a human there’s still some way to verify it’s been made by a human but not sure how long that will last. Unless you do the work in real life first.
And for regulation, that will be a great issue. Companies will maybe fight for certain things of the regulation government. On the other hand, maybe will jump in because they had a hard time verifying certain things. Then you have some countries that will not regulate AI at all because they see AI as the future of warfare and regulate certain things that will harm it.
The only regulation I may see all groups will agree on is protection laws against all Deepfakes, and tampering a Videos of evidence and others yet to not know.
Not shocking, plus ai will be much faster and can go much longer. Which will help with getting way more anime and Manga. I wouldn't mind it at all
What if the Company that owns the A.I will trademark all manga artworks that the A.I generated 😂😂😂 or they want some share of profit that have been made😅.
Damn it first it comic book now manga this aint good
Regulation only will make it worse. The higher ups will use it to their advantage. Leaving us in the dirt.
Yep, as always.
Honestly, I thought this was going yo be about the UN enforcements.
Turns out it was a less scary thing.
UN terminating payment processors is really scary. They could take over the world like that, considering if people can't trade money they have to wave the white flag.
Hmmmm i envision a part 10 already, A.I stand user even using hamon and spin, interesting 🤔
This is very bad. I for one don’t want ai art to overtake actual artists and threaten their livelihoods. This needs to stop or at the very least be regulated so people aren’t able to sell these ai fakes.
7:42 Forget the hands, AI has been able to replicate it without an entire year already.
What you have to pay attention to is the shading on her thighs, which should be the main indicative of AI art imo.
It doesn't even fit with the rest of the art style.
think about this, It will make fanfiction 1000% more accessible to nonartist. More degeneracy headcannon and internet culture. I have Absolutely no problem with ai copyright and everything if they label themselves to distinguish themselves as AI. Only have problem if they try to "con" others as real.
Japan and the US have two different copyright systems that descend from two separate theories on the the nature of rights. Most of the world uses the civil law model that rivals the American Locke model.
Civil law has many protects for the author's honor and the integrity of their work. These protections could be used to defend the artist against AI. Large Japanese companies could strike AI generators as they have the potential to violate their authors personality rights.
Under consumer privacy, In the US it is illegal for data collectors to hold your data after you request them to remove it. AI could be adapted into this framework to remove protected works from training data. Currently it seems the US is drafting up an AI bill of rights.
There is no such thing like AI only somebody else data.
Araki the GOAT
If AI makes tons of money, companies would easily lobby the government to ease any restriction. Its all about money at the end of the day. If u dont like it then dont buy it, the best thing u can do is vote with ur wallet.
Of course it's gonna have laws that are in favor to it. Sadly, people do not care about art.
On the bright side AI could be used to help out over worked mangakas. They could train an AI on a bunch of their work then have it "finish" sketches for them. Then manually correct any wonky AI mistakes.
The artists just have to be careful. There is an early episode of Kamen Rider Zero One that outright addresses similar where the artist just gets lazy
I feel like this would actually be great for burgeoning mangaka’s since they often lack resources but face a similar level of crunch that the pros do. Big-time mangaka’s probably wouldn’t need it, because they’d have assistants. I think it should mostly be used for tedious stuff though, like background trees or other small stuff, a mangaka should be able to focus on their main illustrations.
I agree with him.
This ain’t good. There has to be restrictions on AI so that real artists don’t get screwed over like this. I refuse to believe that real artists like this will be beaten by something a machine can spit out
You're a fool. Corporations and the average consumer will always choose cheaper slop churned out en masse over anything good. They don't care that it's bad. That's why AI needs to be destroyed and anyone using it needs to be given harsh enough punishment that nobody would dare risk it.
@sōs-uke Indeed. AI is for robots and AI president videos, not copyright infringement on manga artists or outright replacing human artists and animators.
And hero is 100% right !
It should change to ai
Nothing to do with censorship right?
This is scary
I think Araki is worrying too much. Just because somebody can write a death threat with a pen, that doesn't mean we should over regulate a pen. A pen and AI are just tools.
This is why I hate AI and hate that anime/manga got mainstream smh
AI slop is only getting worse sadly, one of the things I hated coming from it are the people saying something real is AI or just hyper analysing artworks and calling artist's mistakes out for AI.
Besides AI being helpful for things like photoshop/editing, we genuinely don't need it in entertainment
Same man…
You don't know a thing about art. Get off the ignorant, it's polluting your mind. Go to therapy if you have so much hatred.
@@Sweetdude64 Well you can keep sucking off ai I’m not stopping you 😂
My thoughts are like this. When they were shooting the first films, there were no computers, green backgrounds and other techniques that are now used to show us fictional worlds. Artists have the opportunity to work with artificial intelligence to create the art of the future together, where artificial intelligence itself will search for fakes and remove what is not created correctly! In principle, we need to educate artificial intelligence more than those who want to exploit it.
Don't worry about art, consider the risks of AI impersonating *YOU?*
We know your face, voice and behavior/personality.
Feed it into AI and we can replace you so well that nobody will notice unless they visit you IRL...
Ai should only be used for fun and personal usage not for profit gains and if you use ai, you should state what youre using is ai
the problem is AI users are opportunist and can only seek for money also ego fulfillment. they don't bother to come up with storytelling. the moment shonen jump took over by them, the whole industry collapsed to a tiny atom. which probably good since you will get passionate indie publishing who use real art and witty story finally rise to surface