@@KingDuckeey when Kars asked:"Is this part of your plan?", Joseph said it was so therefore, well deserved W for Joseph Edit: since noone read my comment which is 6 comment right under this one, this is sarcasm
Imo, Gojo vs Kars' situation would end up with a stalemate. There is no way that Gojo can hurt Kars in any circumstances Blue: yes it's capable of destroying an entire small building in one hit. But Kars can just, walk through it, instantly regen any dmg without an effort. Red: it would possibly just annoy Kars for a bit Hollow purple: Yeah reduce Kars' body tissues to zero. But he'll just regen and adapt, basically that'll deal no damages then Unlimited void: it might stun Kars for the first time before he adapt it. Maybe just shut down his own brain to act like a single cell organism and restart it entirely to prevent the stun. Idk, we don't know what the ultimate life form are capable of yet Enough praising Kars as a unstoppable god, let's talk about the actual method that Kars are actually able to deal dmg to Gojo Hamon: actually kinda debatable, the energy itself are heated enough to break human tissues entirely. But Hamon is like electricity, it needs to be conducted to the victim's body in order for it to activate. We don't know if Hamon are actually able to be conducted onto Gojo's body under the influence of limitless. Yet the heat by itself should do some damages, although you could argue Gojo can just regenerate himself by constantly using reverse curse technique. Stand: this is a bit of a wild card, but it's theorized that Kars are capable of using a stand(Even though Araki never said that it's canon), since stand is basically Hamon and they have a similar energy force using life energy as their base. Some stand is undoubtedly capable of destroying Gojo like The hand(technically erasing Limitless), Soft n Wet go beyond (an attack that doesn't exist in the same dimension), Wonder of U(Calamity, which is really bad shit would happen to Gojo). But is Kars actually able to use the power of a stand? It's up to debate, so it's hard to tell. Curse technique: If curse power are originated from life force, then Kars can technically use other JJK character's ability like copying Gojo's Hollow Purple and use it against him. But that's also quite a wild guess so.. no, not canon. Other forms of physical attack is also impossible to hurt gojo like at all, I doubt Kars' lightblade and Piranha are capable of even bypassing Gojo's Limitless and hit him like at all. Conclusion: if Kars have some none canon ass pull outta nowhere, Gojo would certainly die by the hand or his own hollow purple. But if everything just stay canon... Yeah fuck no they'll probably just chill
@@The.empire.enjoyerof course young joseph has bullshit plot armor he will survial that LMAO, but fr if Joseph getting hit by kars hamon with no aja stone protection he will die instantly
we’re also looking past the fact that JJK has a rule that revealing your powers makes them stronger, so everyone, curses and sorcerers, do so for enhanced powers, but Kars is legit like “Oh word? Thanks for letting me know!”
@@SkyeWinters-yo5cc he grows several hands on his back and has them clap in intermediate moments while slashing at the speed of light, resulting in the slash somehow manifesting in 3-6 points at once.
Skyfall just plays in the background as kars walks towards sukuna Then sukuna pulls out his miniature literal sun "Haven't used this since the heian era"
If Kars encounters Hakari, I think the info dump from hakari’s domain would also help Kars with learning how to use cursed energy. Especially since Kars learns as fast as he adapts and the domain info explains some of the unorthodox ways Hakari’s domain works
the only reason everyone else in JJBA is still alive is because a volcano shot Kars into space. and only because his opponent got lucky. only plot armor can save you from Kars.
@@МилианаДимитрова yes Dio : "HAHAHHA I AM GONNA WASTE CHANCE TO END JONATHAN" kars : "i will stay in the space ranting about my self being superior before coming to earth- wait why am I freezing?" Dio again : "HAHAHAHA I WILL WASTE 9 SECONDS INSTEAD OF MAKING SURE JOTARO IS DEAD" Yoshikage : "I will go to work instead of making sure Hayato ends all my Enemies for me" Diavolo : "i will make sure i wait to eliminate Bruno" Pucchi : ".... DIO, LORD DIO? DIOOOO"
Kars was a little nerfed here tho Like if he ever encountered yuki black hole He can just throw a small piece of his body out of the black hole range and he would win Assuming he can react to the black hole speed tho (idk)
Considering the fact that the six eyes is a genetic trait, it’d be fairly easy for Kars to just make Gojo’s eyes for himself off rip, and probably make a better version too
Considering Kars' supreme intelligence and absurd processing speeds, there's a chance you could just chuck Prison Realm at him and immediately fulfill the condition
@@happyguy1341 no one know how to break the prison realm from inside, even geniuses like Gojo or Kenjaku don't know how. You can only unlock from the outside
Speaking about surviving the "real" (according to current theories and observations) black hole. The main reason why black holes are dangerous and serve as the "ultimate prison" is not because you have to reach ftl speed for leaving it as everyone thinks. It's actually because beyond the event horizon the geometry of space acts weird. Basically, "inside" the black hole there's no direction other than toward the singularity. If you stuck there alive somehow singularity would be everywhere around you. I'm not even talking about other effects like space becoming 2D and time and space switching places. So yeah. The only actual way for any fictional character leaving realistic black hole is to be outside of space-time itself. Real life black holes basically beat 99,999% of fiction including Ultimate Kars
@@io913 even if they survived black holes in comics, they didn’t survive REALISTIC black holes. Just silly knock-off versions imagined by creators of comics who sometimes don’t even know math lol
I think you have a few too many decimal places, but in this situation Kars is fast enough to escape from the gravitational pull before reaching the event horizon.
@@zaqqseth3984 no ways to maneuvor inside of it, and if he reachs the singularity he will become a single point in space so like no way in hell he survives that
11:30 One thing to note: inside the event horizon, space and time are switched. Your future becomes “moving towards the singularity”, meaning you are moving towards it infinitely, and your surroundings become homogenous, meaning there is no direction you can travel that is not towards the singularity. It’s physically impossible to escape, because according to you, “inside” becomes your future, and “outside” doesn’t exist.
You know outside of these JoJoK vs debates for a bit it’s actually surreal and scary at the same time how the universe just allows for these things to exist.
That’s one qualm I have with power scalers, they try to apply real world physics to these characters, and then casually say they move massively faster than the speed of light, but that’s not how it works. I understand it’s technically true, they’re simply moving at velocities greater than c. But it’s not just the speed of light, it’s the speed limit of causality. Nothing *happens* faster than that speed, that’s why light can’t escape a black hole So I appreciate you specifying that the singularity is an inevitable point in time, not just some Euclidean center of something you fall into
@@flamingdoge6242 Ever since I learned how black holes actually work, I became fascinated with them. I'm currently working on a game set in a fantasy world with different laws than our own, and the fact that singularities are the manifestation of the inevitable future is intrinsic to the cosmology. I'm still trying to decide whether its possible to travel faster than light in my world, but even still, black holes are inescapeable. It's amazing what happens when you look at our universe holistically. Oftentimes, reality is more fantastical than fantasy! But, yeah. Powerscalers often cherrypick which physics, calcs, equalisations or logical chains to use, and then ignore other points which would undermine their conclusion. As a pretty autistic worldbuilder, I prefer to use powerscaling to maintain internal consistency in my world, but it's much less useful when its battleboarding.
If we take Kars' FTL feats and apply them inconsistently with how they are shown - i.e. going FTL makes time progress backwards - then Kars still might be able to escape because he is going to the past. Also, to suggest that "inside the event horizon, space and time are switched" is a massive oversimplification.
What if kars creates a coconut with a TON, and i MEAN A TOOOOOON of atomic power in it? i mean, he could do it, he can manipulate genetics and anything related without limits, so does that mean everyone dies of radiation or?
@@Stupid_alien_cat311 No, cuz they have their own running gags. Its like saying because Saitama is always meant to win, he should be able to destroy all of anime. Without proper high scaling, not even toon force can solo. Gear 5 luffy vs Goku who wins? Goku. The powers become irrelevant when the dimensionality comes into play and also how high they rank in scale wise. Either way, Saiki K. Solos Takaba.
@@apples951 "Hey wouldn't it be funny if I survived saitamas punch without a single scratch" "Damn it would be so hilarius if Wonder of U simply didnt work on me" God himself could send a galaxy obliterating beam down on takaba and he would just show up floating in space going "golly gee im sure glad I didnt get hit by that!"
Reminder the only reason jojo didnt end at part 2 was cause Joseph did a hail mary move with that stone. Plot is the only reason he beat kars. Whole show would of ended right there. Pretty sure ultimate life form almost solos his own verse.
@@-hu1fc yes but no. "It's only plot" is not really the case. Just because he is OP doesn't make his loss on this "only because of plot" Joseph bear him because he is a trickster. He found a way to beat something that can't be fought. That's who he is. Every fight Joseph had, Joseph was weaker than his foe
@@Bryan-ep4qj joseph said himself he had no idea what he did his body basiaclly moved on its own that wasnt trickster or intelligence or creativity that was a pure plot victory.
That's just the best way to be honest. The longer Kars exists, the worse his IQ becomes since human writers definitely cannot imagine how intelligent is 400 IQ, Kars would be either impossible to defeat or just be defeated in a dumber, underwhelming way- probably the power of friendship of some sorts.
Kars isn't really dead, hes just endlessly floating through space, as he adapted, tho unable to do anything, he stopped thinking, like he fucking shut his brain off, but ... in theory, Kars is not dead dead.
A simple way Kars can avoid unlimited void is simply change the structure of his brain. Curse spirits aren't as effected by UV compared to humans due to the structure of their brain being different to humans so kars could just completely change the structure of his brain to be completely resistant to UV.
craziest part about kars is that his power is literally being 100X better at things than any creature on earth concurrently i think the word was. so you can also scale his strength with say a 100X the physical strength a longneck dinosaur would have.
@@JackgarPrime that is also true. and i bet neither me or you have 200 iq (i never took an iq test and dont know the average human iq) and kars has 400. one can only imagine what he would come up with to get an advantage
@@AliceIzuragi6291 The average IQ for a human is like somewhere around 100. The smartest human to ever exist has an IQ of 228. Einstein had an IQ of 160. So Kars is nearly quadruple as smart as your average human.
@@loppedoffhead1 if only bro wasn't high as fuck from being powerful seriously he should have just sat down and calmly experimented with his powers before going on any fights
Blood lusted here doesn't mean "Shoot straight for the kill, disregard everything else" it just means he's gonna go for the kill every chance he would take in character, just not playing around
Kars getting hit by gojo's domain could be a buff if he survives, since he tecnically could learned everything depending on how much time he spends in there, we know that the minimun is 6 months worth of info (the time gojo used the domain in shibuya) so if kars manages to tank it long enough, he whould be at a level of knowledge that ranges from realy fucking knowledgable to omniscient/near omniscient, giving him the knowledge needed for further adaptation/life form creation
not really, since gege has said that his domain doesn't actually give you the information, it just overloads your brain. They included a drawing of jogo where instead of saying what was in front of him, he could only say "A, A, A..." because he doesn't actually learn or gain information
@@albinoskinwalker makes sense, mabye kars could still learn from observating the domain itself, i'm guessing he could adapt to the domain expansion due to light speed info processing
Good lord, if you made Goerge Jostar Novel Kars, He would just end everything in 90% of all verses he gets sent to, well unless he ends up in war hammer 20k, Marvel comics, or Dbz
@@binay413963I dont think he can beat a child who keeps mfs who cant delete your entire existence (your body, your soul, whatever you have permanently)
@@zentimeharughi3520 Kars has possible existence erasure( he stated that if he were to be erased from existence he would simply find a way back. But there are no feats to support or denounce this statement so we don't know whether or not this is true). And I think Kars can use time stop so he could just blitz Zeno.
@@loppedoffhead1 Why do you even think Zeno can't move in stopped time when he literally fucking watch Hit during his time manipulation shit. ZENO gives 0 fucking cares about time stop. And by the way, Hakai is built different so Novel Kars can't do shit once he gets erased. Every inch of his existence will be absolutely erased, his soul, and every connection to him will be erased except for other timeline Kars. As long as Kars doesn't have back up plans, he's gonna get one tapped. In the first place the first time they met with no information of each other, He gets one tapped easily. Even if novel Kars is really strong, don't compare him to the likes of Zeno. Dragon Ball cosmology is just built too different and higher than Jjba.
Something u forgot to mention is that kars can learn any ability and make it better as he did with hamon So he could learn infinity and make it better and he could learn any domain
Speaking of JoJo, can the entire JJK stop Pucci from resetting the universe? Let's say you place all JJK characters on Jolyne, Ermes, Anasui, Emporio, and Jotaro's position just when Pucci unlocked MIH
Domains are a really good answer to this, and with the sheer amount of people there, you could have Gojo or Sukuna use their domain once they get the sign that Pucci’s in range.
pucci quite literally has infinite speed in made in heaven, with him starting off as multiple times faster than light. He kills everyone immediately and can simply go through limitless since pucci has the infinite speed to cross it
@@9ipalvin858infinte void would as it has an instant effect of flooding info to the brain but he would need to land it with such precise timing that pucci would probably chop him with infinte speed likely surpassing limitless technique
The most likely outcomr would be thus: Kars is sealed away after going on a heinous, absolutely divine-level rampage on every single Jujutsu sorcerer, cursed spirit, etc in Japan. Kenjaku would probably be the one to seal him. But then you have to remember that sealing someone isn't a solution; it's a delay. A stay of judgement. A mercy period for the world to get its affairs in order because at some point, at some time, someone will decide to be the funniest prankster alive and unseal Kars. And he's definitely adapted to the prison...
he is not as strong as people make him out to be, he almost burnt in lava, was stopped by a plane, couldnt outpace said plane (mind you this was ww2, so nothing extremely fast). yes, he does have mftl reactions and multi-city block ap/small town and could likely absorb most jjk verse, but he stops at gojo, as he has no counters.
I think because six eyes is a technique passed down by genetics, so unless Kars finds out what's the dna code causing that mutation, ANNDD attain curse energy, then maybe there's a chance he could wield it.
@@Infinite8blue Kars can copy any genetic trait. Given that only one user can exist at a given time, Kars would probably just form his own even better version of the pre-existing ability, like he did with Hamon.
for the stuff involving temperature, he could use the properties of the water bear since they're, able to survive extreme temperatures of hot and cold just a regular late, and with him being the ultimate life form, this would be pumped up to 11 so he could survive even more extreme temperatures than what the water bear can already survive
@@IsThatAThaiNameif he wouldn't have known of the water bear?, wouldn't he have not known of the material he use to survive the volcano or the squirrel he made?
@IsThatAThaiName Yeah, but if we put him in JJK he most likely can use cursed energy and hamon, and Choso protected Yuji against a fire arrow so Kars probably survives one.
@@randomyoutuber2633 choso blocked it likely with a binding vow in exchange for his life Also the heat from lava was killing Kars, so the fire arrow (which is much hotter) would kill Kars 100%
@@theoriginalnoc how is this delusion? you obv didn't watch jojo. I watched both series and honestly im more of a fan of jjk than jojo, but in this case kars would win 100%. He literally is the ultimate lifeform, think of mahoraga, but 100x better at adapting.
if your wondering i did the math. if kars was put in infinite void. it would take exactly 11.6 hours for infinite void to go through 1 of kars life span in information. since 0.2 seconds is half a year of info, as stated by the narrator during gojos 0.2 second domain expansion. 1 second is 2 and half years worth of info. kars has live 105,000 years. it takes 420000 seconds, 700 minutes, or 11.6 hours. to go though 1 of kars life. which the normal persons 1 life would go by in around 40 seconds if they were 100 years old. which means yes, infinite void wouldnt work on him.
I mean that's debatable, just because you have lived a long time doesn't mean you are able to tank that much information. He absorbed those years of information at a regular pace. it's just as plausible that infinite void works, at least for a bit to allow enough time for Gojo to purple him before he adapts and understands what is happening to him. We do know that infinite void works differently depending on who it is targeting, like Mahito for example who is less than 1 year old could wake up in roughly 5-10 minutes which means how long you have lived really has no correlation at all with how much it affects you. If you put Kars in a domain for a minute or so, there's no way he can simply tank that. He has never experienced something like that before and it will at least take some adapting before he is able to properly filter the information and focus on the fight and any further adaptations
That isn’t how infinite void works, no matter what your age is even if it hits for a millisecond it could still fry your brain, as seen with Sukuna who is literally thousands of years old
@@samuelswanson6983 No? he was able to endure it and he wasn't as harmed though damaged. Remember Kars has 400 iq plus lived way longer than 1000 years? he'll easily tank it.
The Kars glazing is phenomenal but I also can’t truly disprove any point lmao. JJK is just so oddly weak as a verse compared to every other anime. It might be a better fight to put FMA characters against JJK, but that still feels possibly one sided in JJK’s favor
Kars glazing is disproven by the actual series "Massively faster than light" = can't catch a WW2 Plane "Can tank UV because he has a high IQ 🤡" = bro literally couldn't handle being bored
@@fusionwarrior52 Which is weird because Joseph is outright stronger than Jotaro himself so what's the point of the comparison? Don't tell me he scaled Joseph off Star Platinum 💀
If Mahito touch Kars to kill him, Kars just has to walk through him and absorb him like the other Pillarmen did with the german soldier under the Coleseum.
Even if kars doeant have cursed energy, the curses are fucked as we know that they are weak to positive cursed energy which is just life energy and hamon is the application of sun and life energy
If we’re being technical, Kars could use cursed energy and curse technique (in JJK) as he has the power of every single species at their highest potential
In Golden Experience Requiem Diavolo is dying for eternity in every conceivable manner. Therefore there is a version of Kars in one of those realities that can just think something out of existence as Kars is technically not dead and in one of these realities in which Diavolo dies he could suddenly gain the ability to reality warp, rewrite the laws of physics etc. And there is an infinite number of these Kars, because infinity is a really big number. So there is really no question that Kars solos.
Something kinda glossed over here, Kars and the other pillar men are impossibly quick learners. The baby of the group Santana was able to figure out the English language without having ever heard/seen it in seconds. Kars shows this when he figured out hamon having never tried it before(due to it immediately killing him before) and had the strongest ever hamon. Basically what I'm saying is upon finding himself in the jjk verse surrounded by curse energy or even having some of his own, he'd immediately become the greatest jujutsu sorcerer of all time, likely with every technique ever made.
For the black hole argument, there’s also the fact that time slows down around the black hole. if he knows he’s in the event horizon, or being affected by it, he may find a way to cognitively adjust to the time slow, and thus have WAY WAY WAY more time than he reasonably should to handle/adapt to the black hole. For example, one minute in Sagittarius A’s event horizon may even take up to 700 earth years due to the time dilation. If he learns how to resist time dilation itself, he could reasonably effectively have forever to figure out how to not die to the heat or the following effects
@@saragenren6139 If kars is in event horizon then he will still have 1 min to think of a strategy before he falls into singularity. It's just from the pov of earth observer he will look like he froze in that position then about 700 year later it will look like he got past the event horizon.
@@TheSaladBar current fuuko or like loop 100 fuuko? also what if you do the union vs shibuya but you take the original roster of the loop 100 union (aka with void and gina instead of fuuko and andy) and you make the union a third party in the scenario?
Loop 101 Fuuko 🤫 If I do Gojo vs Union it’ll probably be a series of 1v1s against the original roster to see who can/can’t beat him, and then a separate section for Loop 101
Ultimate Kars upon existing had already perfected and improved upon a technique that was the bane of his existence, so much so that the technique possessed properties that not even hamon from masters like Jonathan had. Upon landing in the JJK world, he would most likely instantly gain cursed energy and would most likely be more potent than sukuna on first use
The Gojo part is just "ifs" and "maybe". Entirely speculation. You bet on Gojo's domain maybe not taking instant effect and Kars somehow having the ability to turn his brain off. In the series his brain turned off. By itself. The time he spent in space was unspecified, therefore meaning he didn't think to turn off his brain/isn't able to do it. It was just him going insane. Like any of us would. Besides, even if we give him that, you have to remember it is not just information. It is stimuli. Gojo's domain bombards the brain with stimulation on top of raw information. So even if he "turns it off", it is useless. He still has a brain to access, so it will still be flooded by the time he "reopens" it. A drooling mess is all he'll ever be, even if he "acts on instinct". No. That still needs a brain. However small, the body requires a brain to operate. And guess what Unlimited Void damages? The brain. Iq won't help against it. One could even go as far as to say Mahito's domain clears. After all, we don't know how Kars could be affected by having his body permanently altered to Mahito's whim. I mean, the people he turns into toys are brainless. And guess what Kars needs? A brain. He needs it to function. Unlimited Void ends the gauntlet. Your point about surviving it is moot. Jogo is a curse. He has no brain to injure. That's why he "survived". Curses are just stunned. Whereas humans are specifically brain damaged. Sukuna tanked 0.1 seconds of it and he faced immense damage cause of it. He simply had a dead man's switch in Mahoraga. Kars doesn't have that. It all ends here. Kars has no way to bypass Infinity. It became automatic. Meaning his perception is irrelevant. Objects get stopped no matter what, depending on criteria which remains unspecified. It works even in his sleep. Which he doesn't/barely needs. Hollow purple is not space erasure. It is an "imaginary mass". But this "mass" might as well be erasure. From what we've seen, it is the "unstoppable force" that appears so many times in scenarios. It effectively deletes objects it comes in contact with, as we've seen many times. Watch the aftermath of every purple and you'll see uniformity in it's destruction. Trees aren't ripped out. They get grinded to dust. Same with sukuna. His body is fuming because it is effectively being ground into nothing by this ever advancing, unstoppable mass. Things are blown up or ripped apart by it. They are effectively erased. Just not in the way people keep speculating. With it turning objects imaginary or something like that. Gojo's molecular weakness is the only part where he falls short. Kars may be able to form something with such an attack, but Gojo's six eyes will inform him of the impending threat from cursed energy alone. Kars is the ultimate lifeform and his energy will reflect that. So? Domain Expansion. He may have taken his chances with Sukuna cause he gauged his ability from their previous meetings. But Kars is new. And a domain would end it. Kars is fast, but not as fast as you guys make him out to be. After all, Joseph wasn't outright incinerated by him. I mean, come on guys. He barely kept up with a plane. Joseph had time to fly to some island too. Kars is blown out of proportion when his speed feats are completely different on and off the ground. His speed is irrelevant as much as Naruto characters when they vanish. He truly isn't what people make him out to be. Sure, we would love for him to be this massively faster than light dude with the speed to end everything and outrun everything. But he couldn't even catch a plane in time. And that is enough for me to say he gets caught in any domain there is. He survived for some time in the volcano cause that's as far as any organism could. Meaning even Jogo can win in his domain if he sinks Kars in lava for long enough. He wouldn't survive if Kars gets close, but he has the AP to kill. Domains are what this all comes down to. And they are such bullshit that Kars can't dream of defeating them unless he deploys his own. And even if he does, he'd need a little time to decipher their ins and outs. Like with Hamon. He'd be a monster with CE, but he'd need to experience it first. Which when he does, it is game over. Domains are the be all, end all. Extreme temperatures end him, soul manipulation ends him, UV ends him. Kars can go play with someone else, but no one is giving him the time to amass the tools necessary to fight in jjk. Not when insta lose abilities like Domains exist.
@@AdamThomas-vf4op kars will have ce. Like any civilian who got brain crashed in the subway. He isn't Toji. He isn't under a heavenly restriction. Those are rare.
@@AdamThomas-vf4op no. I don't know where you got that. Cursed energy is born of negative emotions. And Kars, as an intelligent being, is more than capable of emotions. Be they negative or positive. So he would have cursed energy.
Not gonna lie, I feel like we're REALLY OVERESTIMATING KARS ADAPTING TO WEIRD PHENOMENA while he 1: LETS people live and run and plan to fulfill his ego, 2: Didn't even instantly adapt to lava, and has an extreme learning curve left to go, 3: While incredibly smart, is dealing with people who are just as smart (Todo) or have lived just as long (Heian characters), and are also underestimating JJK Characters. Infinity traps characters like a giant net as show with Jogo, so why can't Gojo just selectively choose to only let cursed energy inside infinity, and then we all spam attacks and let Mahoraga adapt to his regeneration until kingdom come. The reasoning for why Mahitos soul manipulation wouldn't work is EXTREMELY flimsy considering Kars has control over the body, not the soul, and it's stated directly that you can't just override a change to the soul. And sure, JJK characters all working together would have a tough time, But there's so few loss conditions, especially considering we can just Hakari and Mahoraga meat shield until Urame flash freezes. Anyways in the recent chapters, Hakari was instantly frozen by Urame, so she clearly has the capability to go absolute Zero when she really needs to. It's just such a Kars highball fest even though I do believe he clears 99% of the verse in 1 on 1's (Save Gojo, Mahoraga, and possibly Yuta in his domain.) Hell Jacobs ladder was never even considered as an attack that could vaporize Kars if strong enough.
cursed energy and cursed techniques are stored in the brain, so I don't think kars could tank the zip bomb effects of infinite void unless he awakened his cursed energy and had advanced enough control of it to withstand infinity and adapt
If kars changed the shape of his brain then the domains effect would be lessened as it works less the more unlike a human brain a creature has and that's why jogo wasn't instantly lobotomized
@@mansonic1 Not the more unlike human, curses' brains are completely different than human or any natural animal brain. The overload of information will at least stun him especially if he's caught for several minutes in the void
One thing to say about this video, the AP scaling and calculations for cars are pretty bad to put it lightly. How is Kars large city level or higher when you showed scenes of him getting hit and pierced by objects only at escape velocity? How would Part 1 Dio be relative to Part 3 Dio's AP when the two are only compared when regarding Dio's physical body and abilities (which btw can get pierced casually by glass ?) or how Kars quite literally is getting melted by magma but his body somehow scales to those large city levels or higher? The metrics to get Kars high are pretty bad and completely ignoring consistencies in the show. For the JJK characters, truly its easier to get them to large island level with simple creation feats with domains and stuff. Yuji creating a city in his domain, Jogo does a mountain, low tier Dagon literally creates an island + a sea but we just ignore all of it and assume Kars is stronger with not only vague scaling lines but also while ignoring objects of lower power output hurting him? give us a break Also, this video uses a massive amount of assumption with again, not much good explanation. Ppl in jojo can only see and interact with stands when they themselves have stands, it isnt a given for anybody at all.. Kars doesnt have a stand, thus where is proof he could even interact with the disaster curses? The whole "he has better senses than Toji" argument is bad too since Kars doesnt have any feats of being able to see the enviromental changes as indepth as Maki/Toji, thats the only reason they can "see" the curses, Kars has never shown feats of this level of atmospheric pressure detection with his eyes yet you just assume "oh yeah, he could!" its a lack luster argument. You should show more statements on how you got Kars 100x above Joseph and explain more indepth on why he is 200-900x stronger than Joseph, randomly putting on numbers and statements without solid proof only sounds ignorant more than anything, less than a convincing argument. Also, scale both character, even if briefly to give ppl a good consensus because this video lacks a huge amount of detail depth and explanation, relying purely on assumptions and guesses if we can even call it that.
12:50 actually, that's not how Hawking radiation works. I don't really understand it myself, but that laymens explaination is that virtual particals are constantly coming into and out of existence every second. At the event horizon of a black hole, if two virtual particles come into existence right at the edge of the event horizon, and one is inside the event horizon, and one is outside the event horizon, the virtual particles are instantly separated or something, and the virtual particle on the outside of the even horizon, instead of instantly evaporating because of its other half, is given momentum? from the black hole, resulting in a net loss of energy? from the black hole causing it to lose mass and shrink. I think? So even if Kars was inside of a black hole, he isn't the virtual particle pairs that are blinking in and out of existence, so he'd never actually be able to escape a black hole.
@@Jamlord2061 I've got no actual idea, but the most likely outcome based on my current understanding, is poof. It's effectively separated from the universe forever.
@romppiainen Plot armor. If Joseph had died we wouldn't have the series, and it wouldn't be interesting. Some things have to go against the lore occasionally.
Oh boy the power-scaling is real.. Alright time to dissect what I can. 1: The force of the 'sun' comes from the idea that hamon itself is sunlight. But hamon users don't actually burn people with hamon the way vampires do, or how vampires burn from sunlight in general. The power is obviously not literal, narratively that makes no sense. That's not say perfect kar's use of hamon isn't impressive since it CAN melt human flesh, but take not that it didn't even vaporize the flesh and instead slowly burned away Joseph's...knee. Like, not even the full knee either. 2: Joseph is not a town level character let alone city character. Neither is Jotaro. They never 'level a town'. Jotaro defeats the population of a small town, not the town itself. That's like claiming being able to kill 100 people puts you at town level. Stands also do not scale with stand users. Jojo characters are notoriously tough but their strength largely comes from their stands. Likewise Joseph and Johnathon (at least part 2 joseph) DO NOT SCALE With stand users. You can't use them in the same metric. Worse still, is that a large part of stand fights are centered on abilities over raw power. Kars was never faster then light. He'd have no issues catching up to a plane barely moving above mach 1 in that case post evolution. Even reaction-speed wise, it contradicts the fact that Kars can be overtaken by bullets until he busts out light sword, he can get thrown off by an explosion which does not travel anywhere near the speed of light, can fight HUMAN Characters that are only marginally superhuman at best. Its just as much as an outlier as Polnareff catching a light-speed stand in a specific situation that he created the opportunity to do so. 3: Kars adaptations has physical limits. He can't become immune to the heat of lava, and even the adaptation he was only temporary, the narrator explains that it can let him survive for some minutes under the heat of lava. While no doubt strong, his adaptations aren't purely physical and something like burning to death is very lethal to him. No doubt if you expose him to an attack much hotter then the passive heat of Lava, (which Jogo and Sukuna certainly fulfill) he'd be vaporized with likely no cells to regenerate from. This also extends to otherwise massively powerful attacks like hollow purple and so on. This something you seemed to acknowledge but you have the unfounded assumptions that kar's adaptations can somehow surpass what he's shown to be able to do. His adaptations are, specifically, derived from biological changes. As far as we see throughout Jojo you can't 'adapt' raw power. Evidently the molten shell he creates is a physical adaptation, not a 'power' one like making his cells 'stronger'. He's evidently not invincible. 4: I do agree that Kars would both have cursed energy, and would certainly be able to incorporate cursed energy manipulation through his evolution. However there are two caveats to this. 4-A: While the ability to use CE is rooted in the brain, therefor biology. Power growth and potential seem to be rooted in personality and emotions, as cursed energy itself is emotions itself. So while Kars can to some degree use his own ability to improve his CE powers, its not as simple as his ability to master say, hamon. It would actual take training beyond just basic manipulation. 4-B: Cursed techniques are granted from the soul. And can't be 'given'. Mahito doesn't create cursed techniques, despite being able to change the soul and biology of others. He can grant people that have techniques but no cursed energy to unlock cursed energy and therefor use his techniques. This is first evidence by Junpei who already had technique but had not the CE potential to use, and with Kenjaku later when he used mahito's technique to do both, grant humans with a technique but no CE the ability to use CE, and awaken vessels he planted ahead of time out of their hosts. If changing biology/soul is all you needed to do to create or copy cursed techniques then Kenjaku didn't need to specify people already born with techniques. But clearly that's not how that works. In other words, Kars would not have direct access to any cursed techniques which limits what he can even do with cursed energy. In theory he can try eating cursed objects to go for the vessel but that complicates things further. 4-C: Originally I would have at least agreed that inherited traits like six-eyes could be copied, but... again soul manipulation is unable to do this. So gaining access to such traits is implied to be more then just altering the soul/biology. 4-D: Now onto CE itself. Again, his output is highly debatably and not really concrete, but in terms of what he can learn? Simple domain requires to be taught by a user with a binding vow, its unlikely he'd have the means to learn it. Falling blossom emotion is more likely but that won't defend him from domains entirely. Hollow-Whisker is too obscure but maybe Kenjaku could teach him some ideas. I don't think domain expansions are possible without a technique, that also extends to Domain amplification. So his options in that route are limited. reversed cursed technique is pointless since he can already heal without it, doesn't have any techniques to imbue it with, maybe he can use it like hamon to be super effective against cursed spirits but thats about it. Veils on the other hand and general barrier techniques can have their own advantages and I can see kars being clever about it if he takes the more long-term scheming approach. They aren't useful for combat directly but it can help him to isolate or trap others among other strategies. Charm-based shikigami are probably worthless. 5: obviously giving kars any amount of cursed energy will let him interact with cursed spirits. Though I think it needs to be pointed out as a minor correction, you don't need to be able to use cursed energy to SEE cursed spirits, but actually harming them you need cursed energy. Even when Maki/Toji have their awakened perceptions they still need cursed tools to actually exorcise curses. This is irrelevant here because I do believe Kars would have access to cursed energy, but just felt I had to clarify that. 6: Its *debatable* if Kars can really acknowledge the soul. While souls exist in jojo, its important to note that most if not all stands are incapable of doing any permanent damage to souls. Abilities that affect souls in JJK don't necessarily lead characters to be aware of one's souls, Nobara is a good example of that as resonance lets her strike the soul directly through her technique, but she can't actually see her own soul and defend it from attacks, or is likewise even aware of souls. sorcerers CAN see ghosts, like we see with Miwa and Mechamaru or Rika and Yuta. So just being able to see ghosts or have techniques that affect them like specific stands aren't really evidence in of itself. And being aware of the soul doesn't make you immune to mahito, it just enables you the ability to defend against it, but it shaves away a lot of energy to do so. Add to this, Mahito's Domain expansion, and frankly I don't see Kars winning that. 6.5: No arguments against yoru. 7: Kars does not have the damage output to kill Mahoraga. You need to be able to kill it in one blow before it can adapt to the type of damage dealt. There is nothing in Kar's kit that demonstrates such a level of fire power, nor would even being generous with CE reinforcement could kars physically put mahoraga down. Though, conversely, while Maha can adapt to defensive techniques and abilities I'm not sure if it can do something like permanently kill Kars. (Then again with the application of world cleave I might reconsider that.) So thats arguably more of a stalemate. 8: Kenjaku has the best hand to hand in the series, gravity manipulation, RCt, Domain expansion, and cursed spirit manipulation. he's almost 100% going to beat Kars lol. 9: Kars is not surviving a black hole. 10: no arguments against Higurama his toolkit is specifically useful for sorcerers. Although if he manages to get a death penalty on Kars he can absolutely kill him with the executioner sword. Kars doesn't have the stats to one shot him. 11: kars has no ability to get past infinity, unlimited void stuns him at the very least, a well placed hollow purple has the power to end him. Enough said. Gojo easily takes it and its his fight to lose since kars can't touch him. The domain *will* immediately affect him, but he probably functions more like a cursed spirit at that point where the unlimited information doesn't do any significant damage. Just stuns him in place and for some time after the domain ends. But combined with hollow purple, and Gojo should be ample ability to just end up there and vaporize him completely. Gojo does have practically infintite stamina though, and that should be the end of it. Gojo also DOES have practically infinite stamina. He's able to keep up infinity 24/7, he is constantly refreshing his brain with RCt and six-eyes reduces the cost so much that he can do both ad-infinitum. Unless if he's spamming domains and purples his ce level will never drop. And as we see in the flashback arc, even before he had 24/7 infinity he was still able to keep it on for 3 days straight with no sleep. Well, well, well outside any relevant timeframe to worry about stamina. 12: Sukuna opens fuga and Kars dies. End of Disc. If I were to give Kars a rating based on stats and not abilities, I'd grade him as either a low-special grade curse or high grade 1 sorcerer. Natural physical prowess does scale well with reinforcement so I'd imagine his capability overall might be comparable to start of or end of shibuya Yuji, on the account of probably having less cursed energy but more natural strength. Factoring in his abilities on adaptations and near immortality he'd certainly be a special grade. But stuck on the lower end.
11:30 the black hole Yuki made has mass of solar system ...though yes it would take time 12:28 - that is because the said black hole was put in a barrier
It should be also stated that the abilities of every lifeform also applies to the fictional lifeforms of Kars’ verse, he just never had a chance to show them off. Those air jets he used to attempt to escape space came from Wammu. So in theory, he should have the abilities of Esidisi too, multiplied by 100 at that. So he has the ability to heat up his blood by up to 50k degrees, and use his veins to fire that blood at his opponents. He could even pull out a Divine sandstorm 100 times stronger than the one used by Wammu. The Normal divine sandstorm was already powerful enough to tear through stone structures like cloth and fatally wound a person, so Kars’ version could straight up pulverize people. There’s also many more things he could do like the Atmospheric rift, which originally had a drawback that wouldn’t apply to Kars due to his powerful healing (also 100 times stronger lol).
I like the video but I have one major issue. You assume that Kars adaptation is perfect and automatic. Like if something happens to him he just automatically adapts perfectly to the phenomenon like Mahoraga or Darwin from X-Men. However his “death” scene proves this isn’t the case. He tried everything he could to save himself from his fate but it was futile. Kars has to *Think* about what he is going to adapt to and how. He wouldn’t be able to adapt to UV because his mind would be paralyzed. he would need to find a way to adapt to an unlimited amount of information which he needs some kind of model to base the adaptation off of. If he could just adapt to something without that criteria he would have never been defeated In the way he did.
He wouldn't be able to adapt anyway. Gege explained UV is like repeating A from Apple without forever, without get to the next letter. That's for all the senses. He would literally be stun locked. One concentrated Hollow Purple and he is gone. P.S. That's if Kars let's himself get caught in the Domain.
@@hitogi06 Something kinda glossed over here, Kars and the other pillar men are impossibly quick learners. The baby of the group Santana was able to figure out the English language without having ever heard/seen it in seconds. Kars shows this when he figured out hamon having never tried it before(due to it immediately killing him before) and had the strongest ever hamon. Basically what I'm saying is upon finding himself in the jjk verse surrounded by curse energy or even having some of his own, he'd immediately become the greatest jujutsu sorcerer of all time, likely with every technique ever made.
its cause in part 2 he was a trickster character. Tricksters/gag characters are usually universally liked in human fiction. Its why people arent upset about how op Sun Wukong is : he is among the ultimate gag/tricksters.
Personally, I think if Kars fights Mahoraga right out of the gate, he'd lose. Even if we give him a little bit of cursed energy as a baseline, the battle would basically be a race to see who can adapt to the other faster, and I think Kars would lose that race just due to being as new as he is to the entire concept of jjk's magic system. If Mahoraga can draw out his attacks, and survive long enough to adapt to each one before Kars gets a solid grasp on cursed energy and how to use it, Kars is cooked. Even if raga fights Kars later, after he's gotten more powerful with cursed energy, I still think the fight would be a lot closer then you made it seem, even if Kars would win in the end. You really lowballed Mahoraga in this vid.
I gotta disagree. I get your point but actually, it's Kars that was lowballed. First, the fact that with his intelligence and processing power, him being too slow to learning cursed energy is more than unrealistic. You can't even argue he'd take too long to properly use it. Then there's hamon that's been ignored in the video. People forget that it can do crazy stuff that in no time, Kars could improve over in no time. Just by a basis, his hamon is stronger than Joseph's by a hundred times, rivaling the heat of the sun. Then there's that clairvoyance ability of Tonpetty from masters arguably weaker than him, which Kars would surpass with ease. So realistically, him being able to predict the future should be considered as very likely. Mahoraga's adaptation can be countered like that. We know that power is consistent in the nature of Hamon as the stand of both Jonathan and Joseph had to do with clairvoyance because of hamon. Going back on the Cursed energy subject. Kars has absolute control over his biological functions. That naturally includes emotions. So generating, let's say, a superhuman level of anger to power ungodly one hit attacks is definitely something he'd figure out to do, if even I can think of it. Frankly, the moment he sees a domain, he'll know how to make his own, and it would be much stronger than any other for that very reason. Also also, Kars is supposed to be blood lusted here. Mahoraga couldn't adapt to a serious attack fast enough.
@@IsThatAThaiName Yeah but Kars never knew how it worked and never knew how such power was accessed. That was until after he became ultimate life form and saw Joseph(who basically mastered hamon) and completely mastered it and his hamon was 200x(?) more powerful than Joseph's right off the bat.
@@IsThatAThaiName They could barely understand how Hamon works(they knew that it was connected to breathing since it is kinda obvious after continuous fighting but then they didn't know much more about it aside from that)
Anytime you see a “Black hole” in anime it’s probably like the Mob Psycho 100 version made by Ishiguro…. They’re not true black holes because they don’t destroy the planet, but rather just high gravity areas mimicking black holes
Hey Salad I was just wondering when u finish the Naruto Series are u planning on doing how some anime characters might be able to pass the Chunin Exams in a future video
okay NEVERMIND it is not true but he is definetely fast, thats a fact possibly faster then jjk characters. and he is also wrong by comparing kars to stands
@@-cryogen-8512 Wrong to compare kars to the most powerful of stands but you can compare him to stands in general. If kars were to be able to 1v1 with stands, I think he can pretty comfortably beat King Crimson(since what is it gonna do to him).
@@qhavityso we haven't seen jjk at all, gojo deployed imaginary purple in the span of a nanosecond against toji, as time seemed frozen around hom. Hollow purple erases matter, so kars is vaporized, infinite void is instant, cant adapt, and kars failed to catch up to a plane
@@romppiainentime didn't stop, genius. The rocks just appeared to be stopped because of Infinity 💀💀💀 "nanosecond" bro yapped about Purple was several minutes and it took several seconds to travel to Toji
@romppiainen respectfully, anyone could just sit down and talk about their day while gojo takes five hours mixing up some elements from the periodic table.
@@Isotolerant It is Jojos, where movement speed basically nonexistent while hax and reaction/striking speed is everything. Like we have a crippled guy that can shred through infinity like toilet paper and the president of america(jjk aint beating the president).
I mean, he was catched off guard, literally imagine going to kill someone, its a dummy, and the before you even process it, you get hit by a airplane with a spike on it, th
I guess he could drink/absorb curses, and sorcerers to gain powers and abilities. His brain could probably handle more CTs. Sukuna would make it his mission to fight him and take his body.
@@tonythetwitch5813 his entire body seems to be able to think as an extension of his mind, but unlimited void would be affecting anything inside of it so it might make the damage worse.
Lets be honest, if banishing someone to a billions of years of inescapable prison is an instawin. For all intents and purposes someone not being a threat to you for the rest of human existence is a win for that fighter.
This is a dumb thing I've seen somewhere else, but technically, he can just tell himself to stop thinking to not need to digest the infinite stimuli getting to him, like he did in space.
Thing is I'm pretty sure unlimited void streams information into a target consciousness, not necessarily the brain, so it works deeper than on a biological level. Still even if that wasn't the case he still has 100% accuracy hollow purple which Kars can't really do anything about.
@@dataroaming7512 If Kars was smart, he could do what one celled organisms do and split himself into different parts to have one Kars outside the domain. And also Pillar Men can regen from even dust, and Kars has better regen and HP doesn't really destroy all of you. That one plant curse survived it.
@@Am-fp7pn it’s just that kars doesn’t really adapt, he just transforms or create something to negate something else. Mahoraga just literally adapts do anything, if he isn’t one shot he will survive
@@Am-fp7pn Kars' base speed in Earth is definitely more than 33 mach; however, he can't use this speed in space due to not having air, thus he got defeated because he couldn't manage to figure out how to turn his mass into energy in half a dozen seconds. Mahoraga being put in the same situation would also be defeated via BFR as it wasn't able to dodge fire arrow, lest adapt to being launched at more than mach 33, ten times more than the supposedly near-top-tier speed in jjk - the wheel simply wouldn't turn fast enough before Mahoraga be stranded. And unfortunately, Mahoraga wasn't shown to have any speed adaptation, else it wouldn't be hit by Gojo's black flash or hollow nuke, especially since Mahoraga had been hiding in Megumi's soul, adapting all the time.
@@cornofthefarm3554 mahoraga can adapt to anything as long as it doesnt kill it in 1 shot this was already stated kars simply falls behind in adaptation mahoraga learned to cut apart the fabric space itself just to beat gojos infinity and adapted to verbatim infinite pressure from yorozus true sphere, essentially 1 shotting it the adaptations that mahoraga possesses is more akin to reality warping while kars just manipulates his dna you tell me which is superior
Fun idea tbh. But like there’s definitely no shot. He has abosultely no way of killing Andy, and he can’t trap him. And honestly he loses Badly to fuuko so
@@FlawlessWallace3350bro toji would lose to fuuko alone what the hell is he doing against a island level metoer slamming on to him Andy arguably solos jjk
12:44 There is nothing to actually take away heat from Kars, heat is just kinetic energy and there has to be a medium to take away that kinetic energy, no such medium exists in the black hole, or it would take such a long time it isn't even worth considering
Jojo powerscalers actually reading jojo and not cherrypicking outliers challenge : IMPOSSIBLE Remember, these are the same people who use the fight where Polnareff states he is slower than light as evidence that he is faster than light. Don't expect much intelligence
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 jjk power scalers actually read what you scale instead of taking every statement as gospel challenge: Like are we forgetting what happened in that scene? He said he didn't know if it would work, but clearly he pulled it off and it SHOWS HIM pulling out the stand and slashing while the beam was traveling, thats straight up light timing Reminds me of every time someone pulls up a lightning timer feat from jjk and its just a dude looking in the general direction rather than dodging or blocking.
I like most of the video but my biggest gripe is that part where you say the soul is a thing in jojos so Kars might have knowledge on it so mahito gets countered and loses. HWAT? that doesn’t make any sense 😭 just because something is a concept in a verse doesn’t mean a smart character in said verse knows about it. And even if Kars did know about the soul, there’s no reason to think he would have the ability to interact with it. There no evidence Kars even know about the soul, and it’s even worse to say that he could interact with it. Let’s just say he could. To what extent? Only his own? Would he gain mahitos ability? I just don’t think it makes sense. There’s also no reason to believe that mahito couldn’t just destroy his soul and kill him instantly. What you said just doesn’t make a lot of sense in my opinion. Edit: also Kars would be effected by gojos domain. It doesn’t overload the brain with infinite information, it makes the brain infinitely process the same peice of information. When your brain functions normally, if processes things one after another. In other words, A, then B, then C, etc. infinite void would make your brain infinitely process A, A, A, etc. over and over for as long as the domain is active. Considering Kars has no domain counter (probably) he gets hit with this and then gets hollow purpled.
He could have done that with either Sukuna or Gojo but he definitely hasn't. If for whatever reason he does do that, thats also assuming Maho doesn't get one tapped
@@arkkon2740 he could only adapt to 1 thing at a time. Also, Sukuna was forcing Mahoraga to only adapt to Gojo’s CT, and limitless could block out toxins, along with RCT.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 if he can only adapt to one thing at a time, what makes it seem like he would manifest a kill aura? Not to mention that Kars would probably catch this after one or two adaptations and try to end it faster
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 that doesnt mean a punch from Kars is gonna give him a kill aura, plus the fight with Sukuna should have been a stomp if he can get hit once, adapt, and then that specific person can't do anything
Two things about black holes. One, since they're extremely gravitationally dense, wouldn't that affect how time passes closer to the black hole meaning time would be different for Kars. I remember reading that because of the infinite density at the event horizon, time kinda just stops. But two, it's known that light can't even escape a black hole, but you said that Kars is faster than light, so he might be able to just run out of it.
The amount of stretching done in this video puts every yoga instructor on earth to shame. I love JJBA and Kars but where do you get all these power estimates?? Some of the scaling is absurd and most of the VS portion is based on assumptions!
@@Normopath his abilities let him reflect light, he can do flashy stuff but he's not ftl. The "Dodging UV light" should only scale to faster than a lightswitch. Not light itself. The rest of the scaling is stretching and only has validity if stands have the same strength as their users, which is absurd and untrue.
I think the freezing against kars wouldnt work because he can just use hamon. after all the only reason he couldnt survive space freezing in part 2 was because he cant do hamon with no oxygen, while if he can do hamon he wouldnt get freeze.
Lol silly. Taking it too literal. Joseph beat Kars. If Kars actually moved at the speed of light they would all be dead. The cannon, including how it is illustrated, obviously isn’t light speed. Think of it like a Star Wars laser. Very clearly not ftl. None of them are ftl. Jotaro couldn’t keep up with bullet train speed (part 6). Crazy diamond is 300km/hr and is as fast if not faster than star platinum. If we are going to argue scientifically accurate speeds of light cannons in an anime full of vampires and things that can stop time then we must apply that standard everywhere. Obviously the black hole in jjk isn’t realistic. Let’s think about the fact nothing with mass can reach the speed of light and if it could even something with the mass of a golf ball moving at the speed of light would cause catastropic damage to earth. It wouldn’t punch a hole through someone, it would literally cause a shockwave that would obliterate everything on the surface of the planet. Most people don’t really know how fast light really is. If Kars actually moved his hand at that speed, the action of blocking it would kill all life on the planet.
I do need to stress that gojo's Domain isn't something you can really just tank. It is constantly forcing your brain to process an infinite amount of useless information in infinite detail. Because 100% of your brain power is being used you cant really use your brain to do anything else, hence you cant move. This also means that any active abilities are negated and you cant activate new ones (as long as they require the brain to activate or maintain). It also kills you by 1 of 2 ways your brain uses all the energy in its body, or your brain fry's itself (more likely). Regardless of Kars's regeneration or capacity for thought (unless he can process infiite things which i would really need to see) he would at least be stunned
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Sukuna: I am the ultimate curse, you have no hopes in fighting me.
*A car*
🤣🤣🤣🤣e
@@Daniel-lu8uh one world slash puts this car out of its misery
@@Sukunover 18:51 here u go
@@Sukunover your name fits this video too well 😭
cars*
this is really a testament to how much plot armor Joseph had
joseph has the strongest move ever "nigerundayo" and joseph was a genius in that fight too
@@ainLuka yeah but i dont think he planed Overloading a Vulcano but yes Joseph is a 5head
Joseph litreally says that luck is also a skill
@@KingDuckeey when Kars asked:"Is this part of your plan?", Joseph said it was so therefore, well deserved W for Joseph
Edit: since noone read my comment which is 6 comment right under this one, this is sarcasm
@@endytranaletstalk9011 that's because Joseph wanted to drive Kars crazy by saying he planed it all along.
Gojo: Void Purple
Kars: I like your funny words, magic man.
Great😂
Imo, Gojo vs Kars' situation would end up with a stalemate.
There is no way that Gojo can hurt Kars in any circumstances
Blue: yes it's capable of destroying an entire small building in one hit. But Kars can just, walk through it, instantly regen any dmg without an effort.
Red: it would possibly just annoy Kars for a bit
Hollow purple: Yeah reduce Kars' body tissues to zero. But he'll just regen and adapt, basically that'll deal no damages then
Unlimited void: it might stun Kars for the first time before he adapt it. Maybe just shut down his own brain to act like a single cell organism and restart it entirely to prevent the stun. Idk, we don't know what the ultimate life form are capable of yet
Enough praising Kars as a unstoppable god, let's talk about the actual method that Kars are actually able to deal dmg to Gojo
Hamon: actually kinda debatable, the energy itself are heated enough to break human tissues entirely. But Hamon is like electricity, it needs to be conducted to the victim's body in order for it to activate. We don't know if Hamon are actually able to be conducted onto Gojo's body under the influence of limitless. Yet the heat by itself should do some damages, although you could argue Gojo can just regenerate himself by constantly using reverse curse technique.
Stand: this is a bit of a wild card, but it's theorized that Kars are capable of using a stand(Even though Araki never said that it's canon), since stand is basically Hamon and they have a similar energy force using life energy as their base. Some stand is undoubtedly capable of destroying Gojo like The hand(technically erasing Limitless), Soft n Wet go beyond (an attack that doesn't exist in the same dimension), Wonder of U(Calamity, which is really bad shit would happen to Gojo). But is Kars actually able to use the power of a stand? It's up to debate, so it's hard to tell.
Curse technique: If curse power are originated from life force, then Kars can technically use other JJK character's ability like copying Gojo's Hollow Purple and use it against him. But that's also quite a wild guess so.. no, not canon.
Other forms of physical attack is also impossible to hurt gojo like at all, I doubt Kars' lightblade and Piranha are capable of even bypassing Gojo's Limitless and hit him like at all.
Conclusion: if Kars have some none canon ass pull outta nowhere, Gojo would certainly die by the hand or his own hollow purple. But if everything just stay canon... Yeah fuck no they'll probably just chill
@@在下一小卒I feel like gojo would die from his ego from not one shotting car with 200% hollow lurple
@@在下一小卒 he can hit him with wammu air attacks
@@tenshadowsnotbumgumi please do explain how the wind techniques are capable of passing limitless
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Kars adapting it's bullshit, he can use living beings abilities to try to adapt, while Mahoraga will just adapt and kill him he doesn't one shot
@@The.empire.enjoyer bro did you not see the hamon statement in the vid
@@TwinDragonsViceLeader young Joseph survived getting hit lmao, malevolent shrine is still harder to tank
@@The.empire.enjoyerof course young joseph has bullshit plot armor he will survial that LMAO, but fr if Joseph getting hit by kars hamon with no aja stone protection he will die instantly
Doomsday: Lightweights…
we’re also looking past the fact that JJK has a rule that revealing your powers makes them stronger, so everyone, curses and sorcerers, do so for enhanced powers, but Kars is legit like “Oh word? Thanks for letting me know!”
you can reveal your powers but its not required
Real.
Then there’s sukuna
“What’s that ability?”
“Bet you wish you knew lol”
Kars fights Todo and the latter mentions Boogie Woogie's effect.
Kars: ...oh, neat. Imma try that. *Copies Boogie Woogie*
@@SkyeWinters-yo5cc he grows several hands on his back and has them clap in intermediate moments while slashing at the speed of light, resulting in the slash somehow manifesting in 3-6 points at once.
“Domain expansion: malevolent shrine. You were strong ka- wait what the fuck”
*walking through the slashes*
Lol
He’s just gracefully posing and walking through all the slashes
"nah bro i'd regen"
Same thing that'd happen if sukuna fought buggy
Skyfall just plays in the background as kars walks towards sukuna
Then sukuna pulls out his miniature literal sun
"Haven't used this since the heian era"
If Kars encounters Hakari, I think the info dump from hakari’s domain would also help Kars with learning how to use cursed energy. Especially since Kars learns as fast as he adapts and the domain info explains some of the unorthodox ways Hakari’s domain works
I didn’t even think of it like that, Hakari might just end up buffing Kars if anything 😭
I wonder if Gojo’s domain would do the same?
@@Andrew-pq3lj maybe?
@Andrew-pq3lj No, Unlimited void is just random useless Information.
@@TheSaladBar AS A PİLLAR MAN ENJOYER İ SEE ABSOLUTE WİN
Casual reminder that Kars was never even killed at the end of Part 2. Ever. He just eventually went insane and stopped thinking.
the only reason everyone else in JJBA is still alive is because a volcano shot Kars into space.
and only because his opponent got lucky.
only plot armor can save you from Kars.
@@kaiserzaiser5002 You need to have Atleast Joseph Level Plot armour to survive kars, And Joseph had ungodly amounts of plot armour.
@@kaiserzaiser5002if kars wasn't cocky he would have came back to earth.
Inshort, all JJBA villain have the same weakness
@@Blackvoidwithwhiteside7193bein cocky?
@@МилианаДимитрова yes
Dio : "HAHAHHA I AM GONNA WASTE CHANCE TO END JONATHAN"
kars : "i will stay in the space ranting about my self being superior before coming to earth- wait why am I freezing?"
Dio again : "HAHAHAHA I WILL WASTE 9 SECONDS INSTEAD OF MAKING SURE JOTARO IS DEAD"
Yoshikage : "I will go to work instead of making sure Hayato ends all my Enemies for me"
Diavolo : "i will make sure i wait to eliminate Bruno"
Pucchi : ".... DIO, LORD DIO? DIOOOO"
Gojo: uses domain to explode kars's brain
Kars: Gets phd on cursed energy
He'd still be paralysed and would get one shotted by purple
@@GenoBlue nah he'll tank, regenerate, and overcome the domain expansion and the purple.
@@Phlegethon. while paralysed? If he can't move or think at all there's no way he can tank it, much less adapt to it
@@GenoBlue do you think when your body heals?
@@GenoBlue Kars is the ultimate lifeform, and it's his natural instinctive ability to heal and adapt.
Kars just tanking Gojo's domain is hilarious
Kars is literally god so ofc.
@@AVeryStableFusion get kars past panda lol, he doesn't have any decent feats
@@Sukunover bait used to be believable
@@thatoneguy5001 fr man people put no effort in it nowadays
@@Sukunover beep boop 🤖
The title “What if Mahoraga had a brain” would also work for this video.
Not just a brain, he is a mega genius
Much much better maharoga instant adaptations
Destroying all of kars in a single attack is not even possible and won't die
gotta agree here lmao
@@sadsworth4605mahoraga negs kars
Kars negs mahoraga
All of these are assuming kars just doesnt learn secret technique of jumping a mf, split into 20 ultimate kars and jump the shit out of them
@@emilioparrilla465 it is stated in a JOJO info book that ultimate Kars can clone himself
@@Dinosaurman34dayum
@@Dinosaurman34 plus biologically that’d actually make sense, power of all animals means he should be able to do that
Kars was a little nerfed here tho
Like if he ever encountered yuki black hole
He can just throw a small piece of his body out of the black hole range and he would win
Assuming he can react to the black hole speed tho (idk)
@@Dinosaurman34 we are NOT talking about book kars, he would solo no diff we talking about tv kars (non light novel kars)
Gojo: You wont win
Kars: Nah, I'd adapt
Basically mahoraga 💀
Basically mahoraga 💀
@@03_idnever75But better
This mofo adaptation is faster than raga 💀
Buffed mahoraga + no diff everyone
Considering the fact that the six eyes is a genetic trait, it’d be fairly easy for Kars to just make Gojo’s eyes for himself off rip, and probably make a better version too
He also gets cursed energy and cursed techniques. Lol.
All of those are biological traits in jjk.
he could also have ten shadows
Oh shoot you're right
@@grendelbacani445nope those are based on the soul not the body
Considering Kars' supreme intelligence and absurd processing speeds, there's a chance you could just chuck Prison Realm at him and immediately fulfill the condition
Lol the processing speed is enough alone to the requirements
Ah yes, the Pokeball technique: I haven’t had to use this one since the Heian Era.
Could Kars escape the prison realm? Trapping him like that he could basically gain information, no? Correct me if I'm wrong though.
@@happyguy1341 no one know how to break the prison realm from inside, even geniuses like Gojo or Kenjaku don't know how. You can only unlock from the outside
@@31oannamphong66however counter argument, Open Saysame
Fun fact: Gege has openly stated that JJK is inspired by HxH and HxH is inspired by JBA so Jujutsu Kaisen is a Jojo’s reference
@@Sab9rr As is everything else.
@@blkgravido The world , the whole world is a jojo reference.
Naruto is inspired by HxH as well, making it a JoJo reference
@@LoafOfBreadies the big 3? More like top three biggest Jojo’s reference
I mean CE is basically fancy Hamon
"Oh 100% hollow purple?, TAKE 1000% HOLLOW PURPLE!!"
@@Caerot22 I can imagine that lol
And then Kars just nukes half of Shibuya with it.
@@SkyeWinters-yo5cccorrection half of japan
@@cosmicsans3997 ¾ of Asia*
@@cosmicsans3997 corretion : Hiroshima Nagazaki
Wild how this came right when I saw Gojo and kars fighting in roblox😭
what game?
@@neoeggmanempire
Jujutsu Shenanigans
Jujutsu Shenanigans.
Epik
@@ATHBizarre AUT has gojo and kars 💀
Speaking about surviving the "real" (according to current theories and observations) black hole. The main reason why black holes are dangerous and serve as the "ultimate prison" is not because you have to reach ftl speed for leaving it as everyone thinks. It's actually because beyond the event horizon the geometry of space acts weird. Basically, "inside" the black hole there's no direction other than toward the singularity. If you stuck there alive somehow singularity would be everywhere around you. I'm not even talking about other effects like space becoming 2D and time and space switching places.
So yeah. The only actual way for any fictional character leaving realistic black hole is to be outside of space-time itself. Real life black holes basically beat 99,999% of fiction including Ultimate Kars
wally west and other marvel and dc characters have done this "similar" type of feat before. I'd say about 95% of fiction lol
@@io913 even if they survived black holes in comics, they didn’t survive REALISTIC black holes. Just silly knock-off versions imagined by creators of comics who sometimes don’t even know math lol
@@КириллТрифонов-е5ф I mean if we're saying realistic things beat fake things then that's just complete truth. Nothing can be fake and win over truth.
I think you have a few too many decimal places, but in this situation Kars is fast enough to escape from the gravitational pull before reaching the event horizon.
@@zaqqseth3984 no ways to maneuvor inside of it, and if he reachs the singularity he will become a single point in space so like no way in hell he survives that
Mahoraga and kars both adaping to eachother it's the metapod vs metapod situation again
😂
11:30 One thing to note: inside the event horizon, space and time are switched. Your future becomes “moving towards the singularity”, meaning you are moving towards it infinitely, and your surroundings become homogenous, meaning there is no direction you can travel that is not towards the singularity.
It’s physically impossible to escape, because according to you, “inside” becomes your future, and “outside” doesn’t exist.
That was beautifully explained
You know outside of these JoJoK vs debates for a bit it’s actually surreal and scary at the same time how the universe just allows for these things to exist.
That’s one qualm I have with power scalers, they try to apply real world physics to these characters, and then casually say they move massively faster than the speed of light, but that’s not how it works. I understand it’s technically true, they’re simply moving at velocities greater than c. But it’s not just the speed of light, it’s the speed limit of causality. Nothing *happens* faster than that speed, that’s why light can’t escape a black hole
So I appreciate you specifying that the singularity is an inevitable point in time, not just some Euclidean center of something you fall into
@@flamingdoge6242 Ever since I learned how black holes actually work, I became fascinated with them. I'm currently working on a game set in a fantasy world with different laws than our own, and the fact that singularities are the manifestation of the inevitable future is intrinsic to the cosmology. I'm still trying to decide whether its possible to travel faster than light in my world, but even still, black holes are inescapeable.
It's amazing what happens when you look at our universe holistically. Oftentimes, reality is more fantastical than fantasy!
But, yeah. Powerscalers often cherrypick which physics, calcs, equalisations or logical chains to use, and then ignore other points which would undermine their conclusion. As a pretty autistic worldbuilder, I prefer to use powerscaling to maintain internal consistency in my world, but it's much less useful when its battleboarding.
If we take Kars' FTL feats and apply them inconsistently with how they are shown - i.e. going FTL makes time progress backwards - then Kars still might be able to escape because he is going to the past. Also, to suggest that "inside the event horizon, space and time are switched" is a massive oversimplification.
Takaba throws bird seed at Kars, distracting him to allow everyone else to jump
What if kars creates a coconut with a TON, and i MEAN A TOOOOOON of atomic power in it? i mean, he could do it, he can manipulate genetics and anything related without limits, so does that mean everyone dies of radiation or?
@@BluuPuppy theoretically every anime character can’t beat takaba due to his cursed technique
@@Stupid_alien_cat311 If they're a high enough verse above him then it becomes irrelevant
@@Stupid_alien_cat311 No, cuz they have their own running gags. Its like saying because Saitama is always meant to win, he should be able to destroy all of anime. Without proper high scaling, not even toon force can solo. Gear 5 luffy vs Goku who wins? Goku. The powers become irrelevant when the dimensionality comes into play and also how high they rank in scale wise. Either way, Saiki K. Solos Takaba.
@@apples951 "Hey wouldn't it be funny if I survived saitamas punch without a single scratch"
"Damn it would be so hilarius if Wonder of U simply didnt work on me"
God himself could send a galaxy obliterating beam down on takaba and he would just show up floating in space going "golly gee im sure glad I didnt get hit by that!"
Reminder the only reason jojo didnt end at part 2 was cause Joseph did a hail mary move with that stone. Plot is the only reason he beat kars. Whole show would of ended right there. Pretty sure ultimate life form almost solos his own verse.
@@-hu1fc yes but no. "It's only plot" is not really the case. Just because he is OP doesn't make his loss on this "only because of plot"
Joseph bear him because he is a trickster. He found a way to beat something that can't be fought. That's who he is. Every fight Joseph had, Joseph was weaker than his foe
It was the fate that defeated Kars, the prophecy said that Kars will be defeated with the help of Perfect Aja stone
@@bluks384 fate aka plot.
@@Bryan-ep4qj joseph said himself he had no idea what he did his body basiaclly moved on its own that wasnt trickster or intelligence or creativity that was a pure plot victory.
@@-hu1fc that one moment wasn't planned, but the rest of it was. Also that the stone would be helpful, was known from the start
I love how Araki made one of the strongest villians in manga just to "kill him" in the most absurd and unlucky way.
That's just the best way to be honest. The longer Kars exists, the worse his IQ becomes since human writers definitely cannot imagine how intelligent is 400 IQ, Kars would be either impossible to defeat or just be defeated in a dumber, underwhelming way- probably the power of friendship of some sorts.
Kars isn't really dead, hes just endlessly floating through space, as he adapted, tho unable to do anything, he stopped thinking, like he fucking shut his brain off, but ... in theory, Kars is not dead dead.
A simple way Kars can avoid unlimited void is simply change the structure of his brain. Curse spirits aren't as effected by UV compared to humans due to the structure of their brain being different to humans so kars could just completely change the structure of his brain to be completely resistant to UV.
Didn’t it affect mahito and jogo?
Jogo literally woke up immediately after looking like he was napping peacefully@@josemarioperozofuenmayor3475
@@josemarioperozofuenmayor3475they woke up after 5 to 10 minutes, even Gojo thought they could have at any moment
you're blatantly wrong saying curses aren't affected by UV lol
@@jackaboynaylor9273 i thought it was because of cursed energy. the more you had the more resistant you were.
craziest part about kars is that his power is literally being 100X better at things than any creature on earth concurrently i think the word was. so you can also scale his strength with say a 100X the physical strength a longneck dinosaur would have.
Scale the relative strength of an ant up to a human size, then multiply that by 100x.
@@JackgarPrime that is also true. and i bet neither me or you have 200 iq (i never took an iq test and dont know the average human iq) and kars has 400. one can only imagine what he would come up with to get an advantage
@@AliceIzuragi6291 The average IQ for a human is like somewhere around 100. The smartest human to ever exist has an IQ of 228. Einstein had an IQ of 160. So Kars is nearly quadruple as smart as your average human.
@@loppedoffhead1 if only bro wasn't high as fuck from being powerful seriously he should have just sat down and calmly experimented with his powers before going on any fights
@@loppedoffhead1the thing is
the difference between 100 IQ and 200 IQ is WAY less than 200 and 300 so he's more than 4x... a LOT more
Kars is not blood lusted. He is smart enough to know when to attack and when to not.
@@GsusCrust true af
true af
True af
Blood lusted here doesn't mean "Shoot straight for the kill, disregard everything else" it just means he's gonna go for the kill every chance he would take in character, just not playing around
Kars getting hit by gojo's domain could be a buff if he survives, since he tecnically could learned everything depending on how much time he spends in there, we know that the minimun is 6 months worth of info (the time gojo used the domain in shibuya) so if kars manages to tank it long enough, he whould be at a level of knowledge that ranges from realy fucking knowledgable to omniscient/near omniscient, giving him the knowledge needed for further adaptation/life form creation
not really, since gege has said that his domain doesn't actually give you the information, it just overloads your brain. They included a drawing of jogo where instead of saying what was in front of him, he could only say "A, A, A..." because he doesn't actually learn or gain information
@@albinoskinwalker so it's like a zip bomb, unleashing a bunch of meaningless data.
@@albinoskinwalker makes sense, mabye kars could still learn from observating the domain itself, i'm guessing he could adapt to the domain expansion due to light speed info processing
@@Iate20bricks still a no, since all of the info is useless, so there wouldn’t be anything to process
@@albinoskinwalker i'm talking about the domain (hand gesture, CE flow, barrier ecc) not the info the domain itself gives
Good lord, if you made Goerge Jostar Novel Kars, He would just end everything in 90% of all verses he gets sent to, well unless he ends up in war hammer 20k, Marvel comics, or Dbz
Novel Kars solos Zeno , The only threat will be the super shenron creator, Daishinkin
Don't forget DC. Also I believe he would he. Joe to wipe alot of DBS verse BUT stop at like the strongest in the whole verse
@@binay413963I dont think he can beat a child who keeps mfs who cant delete your entire existence (your body, your soul, whatever you have permanently)
@@zentimeharughi3520 Kars has possible existence erasure( he stated that if he were to be erased from existence he would simply find a way back. But there are no feats to support or denounce this statement so we don't know whether or not this is true). And I think Kars can use time stop so he could just blitz Zeno.
@@loppedoffhead1 Why do you even think Zeno can't move in stopped time when he literally fucking watch Hit during his time manipulation shit. ZENO gives 0 fucking cares about time stop. And by the way, Hakai is built different so Novel Kars can't do shit once he gets erased. Every inch of his existence will be absolutely erased, his soul, and every connection to him will be erased except for other timeline Kars. As long as Kars doesn't have back up plans, he's gonna get one tapped. In the first place the first time they met with no information of each other, He gets one tapped easily. Even if novel Kars is really strong, don't compare him to the likes of Zeno. Dragon Ball cosmology is just built too different and higher than Jjba.
Something u forgot to mention is that kars can learn any ability and make it better as he did with hamon
So he could learn infinity and make it better and he could learn any domain
That's novel Kars 🤡
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 Nope. Just watch the fight with Joseph. Not that hard.
his cursed technique wouldn't be from the gojo family
@@51gn4l50ul i love the part where Kars copied every stand against Joseph too ! Do jojo fans even read their own stuff 🤣?
Nope, he would need to find the genetic mutation causing infinity, not to mention attain a replica of six eyes
Speaking of JoJo, can the entire JJK stop Pucci from resetting the universe? Let's say you place all JJK characters on Jolyne, Ermes, Anasui, Emporio, and Jotaro's position just when Pucci unlocked MIH
no
Domains are a really good answer to this, and with the sheer amount of people there, you could have Gojo or Sukuna use their domain once they get the sign that Pucci’s in range.
@@Passione_Offical_Channeldomain would never be able to land with how stupidly fast MIH is
pucci quite literally has infinite speed in made in heaven, with him starting off as multiple times faster than light. He kills everyone immediately and can simply go through limitless since pucci has the infinite speed to cross it
@@9ipalvin858infinte void would as it has an instant effect of flooding info to the brain but he would need to land it with such precise timing that pucci would probably chop him with infinte speed likely surpassing limitless technique
2:03 3rd leg is crazy
The most likely outcomr would be thus:
Kars is sealed away after going on a heinous, absolutely divine-level rampage on every single Jujutsu sorcerer, cursed spirit, etc in Japan. Kenjaku would probably be the one to seal him.
But then you have to remember that sealing someone isn't a solution; it's a delay. A stay of judgement. A mercy period for the world to get its affairs in order because at some point, at some time, someone will decide to be the funniest prankster alive and unseal Kars.
And he's definitely adapted to the prison...
I think his speed prevents him from doing so
@MyBiggestHaterIsMyself A visitor? Hmm… Indeed, I have slept long enough.
18:26 sukuna makes a binding vow that allows him to instantly erase anything from existence but he can never eat chocolate again
"If i were to be erased from existence i would simply find my way back" -Novel Kars
Simple way for kars to withstand UV, he just makes multiple brains to process all the info at once.
He would have to make infinite brains and he would already be frozen?
@@IsThatAThaiName True enough, the effect is instant so he wouldn't even get the chance to adapt, not that it would work anyway.
@@dataroaming7512 Stop thinking, act on instincts, pretty sure kars could do that, isnt like UV is gonna last forever
@@BluuPuppy It'll last long enough to get hollow purple'd, which would definitely kill him if lava was gonna do the trick.
Cant he just....
Turn off his brain?
They are many creatures in nature capable of acting without a brain, and Kars has access to all of those powers
The idea that a gay Aztec vampire can solo the jjk verse is the most hilarious thing I have ever heard of.
Gay Aztec Vampire GOD, thank you
he is not as strong as people make him out to be, he almost burnt in lava, was stopped by a plane, couldnt outpace said plane (mind you this was ww2, so nothing extremely fast). yes, he does have mftl reactions and multi-city block ap/small town and could likely absorb most jjk verse, but he stops at gojo, as he has no counters.
@@sirjoesphjoestar8361true, if this video was about novel kar’s then jjk verse is getting bopped in one
@@S1ayer585.Same with most of anime
That is hilarious. Now, imagine what a cowboy president dressed in pink leather, like lil Nas X, with a love train, can do?
Who says Kars couldn't adapt and attain Six Eyes for himself? That would be stupidly powerful
I think because six eyes is a technique passed down by genetics, so unless Kars finds out what's the dna code causing that mutation, ANNDD attain curse energy, then maybe there's a chance he could wield it.
because it is a genetic trait of the gojo clan and only one six user can exist at any given time, so no Kars would never get six eyes
@@Infinite8blue the fact that its genetic means kars can copy it lol. he can change his body parts to any living thing
@@Infinite8blue Kars can copy any genetic trait. Given that only one user can exist at a given time, Kars would probably just form his own even better version of the pre-existing ability, like he did with Hamon.
@@d0cteroof308 fr, he didnt even knew to use hamon, he just thought of it and did it
for the stuff involving temperature, he could use the properties of the water bear since they're, able to survive extreme temperatures of hot and cold just a regular late, and with him being the ultimate life form, this would be pumped up to 11 so he could survive even more extreme temperatures than what the water bear can already survive
Clearly Kars doesn’t know about that, he was going to die in the lava which is a lot colder then sukunas fire arrow
@@IsThatAThaiNameif he wouldn't have known of the water bear?, wouldn't he have not known of the material he use to survive the volcano or the squirrel he made?
@@IsThatAThaiNameI mean like all he needs is one glance an he can make it and use it as he sees fit
@IsThatAThaiName Yeah, but if we put him in JJK he most likely can use cursed energy and hamon, and Choso protected Yuji against a fire arrow so Kars probably survives one.
@@randomyoutuber2633 choso blocked it likely with a binding vow in exchange for his life
Also the heat from lava was killing Kars, so the fire arrow (which is much hotter) would kill Kars 100%
Ah yes, putting someone that is an immortal vampire with a power of the sun against kill-able characters is definitely fair
It's a stupid combo but hey the jjk riders need to be put in there place
It's Aztec god of fitness
jojo fans r delusional
@@theoriginalnoc Its in the name.
@@theoriginalnoc how is this delusion? you obv didn't watch jojo. I watched both series and honestly im more of a fan of jjk than jojo, but in this case kars would win 100%. He literally is the ultimate lifeform, think of mahoraga, but 100x better at adapting.
if your wondering i did the math. if kars was put in infinite void. it would take exactly 11.6 hours for infinite void to go through 1 of kars life span in information. since 0.2 seconds is half a year of info, as stated by the narrator during gojos 0.2 second domain expansion. 1 second is 2 and half years worth of info. kars has live 105,000 years. it takes 420000 seconds, 700 minutes, or 11.6 hours. to go though 1 of kars life. which the normal persons 1 life would go by in around 40 seconds if they were 100 years old. which means yes, infinite void wouldnt work on him.
and kars is even more broken in the novels
@@brooklyn8745exactly!
I mean that's debatable, just because you have lived a long time doesn't mean you are able to tank that much information. He absorbed those years of information at a regular pace. it's just as plausible that infinite void works, at least for a bit to allow enough time for Gojo to purple him before he adapts and understands what is happening to him. We do know that infinite void works differently depending on who it is targeting, like Mahito for example who is less than 1 year old could wake up in roughly 5-10 minutes which means how long you have lived really has no correlation at all with how much it affects you. If you put Kars in a domain for a minute or so, there's no way he can simply tank that. He has never experienced something like that before and it will at least take some adapting before he is able to properly filter the information and focus on the fight and any further adaptations
That isn’t how infinite void works, no matter what your age is even if it hits for a millisecond it could still fry your brain, as seen with Sukuna who is literally thousands of years old
@@samuelswanson6983 No? he was able to endure it and he wasn't as harmed though damaged. Remember Kars has 400 iq plus lived way longer than 1000 years? he'll easily tank it.
The Kars glazing is phenomenal but I also can’t truly disprove any point lmao. JJK is just so oddly weak as a verse compared to every other anime.
It might be a better fight to put FMA characters against JJK, but that still feels possibly one sided in JJK’s favor
Kars glazing is disproven by the actual series
"Massively faster than light" = can't catch a WW2 Plane
"Can tank UV because he has a high IQ 🤡" = bro literally couldn't handle being bored
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 i also don’t understand “part one dio is comparable or faster than part 3 dio, so we can scale part 2 Joseph to Jotaro”
@@fusionwarrior52 Which is weird because Joseph is outright stronger than Jotaro himself so what's the point of the comparison? Don't tell me he scaled Joseph off Star Platinum 💀
Hey,you,go/Jo glazer,ever heard of love town?
@@DanteAni-YTI don’t think it’s counting novels Kars
If Mahito touch Kars to kill him, Kars just has to walk through him and absorb him like the other Pillarmen did with the german soldier under the Coleseum.
idle trans in instant, so kars dies
@@romppiainen mahito gets speedblitzed by ulf kars
@romppiainenand kars just adapts to it
@romppiainenalso also please watch the video 8:43
@@azunette Kars can't hit the soul, mahito then touches kars
Having Jotaro at small town and Joseph at large town is why I don't take these jojo power scalers seriously
@@TomasBregman Next up we're going to have Pucci at town level lmao
@@laff__8821 you silly goose, he’s actually alleyway level
@tacticaldroid5975 no, silly he's living room level
@TomasBregman Definitely because of Joseph's plot armor 😭
Gojo: *uses domain expansion*
Kars: gains the secrets of the universe💀
Unlimited Void just overloads your brain, it doesn't give you any meaningful information, it just loops the same junk over and over and over again.
Even if kars doeant have cursed energy, the curses are fucked as we know that they are weak to positive cursed energy which is just life energy and hamon is the application of sun and life energy
i just realised unlike normal jjk characters kars doesn’t use cursed energy to get reversed cursed energy he does it the other way around
@@Jamlord2061 nah not the other way around he cant turn hamon into cursed energy, hamon just is basically 1/2 reversed cursed energy
13:20 hawking radiation is a form of energy, every bit of matter that was formerly Kars is now energy. Theres no coming back from that
hawking you say
If we’re being technical, Kars could use cursed energy and curse technique (in JJK) as he has the power of every single species at their highest potential
In Golden Experience Requiem Diavolo is dying for eternity in every conceivable manner. Therefore there is a version of Kars in one of those realities that can just think something out of existence as Kars is technically not dead and in one of these realities in which Diavolo dies he could suddenly gain the ability to reality warp, rewrite the laws of physics etc. And there is an infinite number of these Kars, because infinity is a really big number. So there is really no question that Kars solos.
Something kinda glossed over here, Kars and the other pillar men are impossibly quick learners. The baby of the group Santana was able to figure out the English language without having ever heard/seen it in seconds. Kars shows this when he figured out hamon having never tried it before(due to it immediately killing him before) and had the strongest ever hamon.
Basically what I'm saying is upon finding himself in the jjk verse surrounded by curse energy or even having some of his own, he'd immediately become the greatest jujutsu sorcerer of all time, likely with every technique ever made.
Damn, Gojo getting dethroned by the ultimate lifeform.
For the black hole argument, there’s also the fact that time slows down around the black hole. if he knows he’s in the event horizon, or being affected by it, he may find a way to cognitively adjust to the time slow, and thus have WAY WAY WAY more time than he reasonably should to handle/adapt to the black hole. For example, one minute in Sagittarius A’s event horizon may even take up to 700 earth years due to the time dilation. If he learns how to resist time dilation itself, he could reasonably effectively have forever to figure out how to not die to the heat or the following effects
@@saragenren6139 If kars is in event horizon then he will still have 1 min to think of a strategy before he falls into singularity. It's just from the pov of earth observer he will look like he froze in that position then about 700 year later it will look like he got past the event horizon.
Sukuna will just use his anti perfect lifeform technique that he hasn't used since the heian era
ofc, obvious when you think about it
A few binding vows here and there and voila
He will make a binding vow that his domain can kill kars on impact, but now he can't eat burgers on 12pm est on the 4th of July
I feel like Kars would have cursed energy by default just because he contains every ability from every living organism.
3:50 why you pick the ZESTIEST image???
13:42
Kars is a different species ....his morality works different then humans
Kars was born human, he knows how humans act, he just acts like a transhumanist
@@arkkon2740he's a pillarmen
@@Isotolerant Pillarmen were a tribe of vampires, dude
@@arkkon2740 regardless he's not human
@@Isotolerant doesnt mean he has no idea what being human is like
yo can u make a gojo vs UU video next?
Sure, I have a vid about Hakari vs Fuuko coming soon too!
@@TheSaladBar current fuuko or like loop 100 fuuko?
also what if you do the union vs shibuya but you take the original roster of the loop 100 union (aka with void and gina instead of fuuko and andy) and you make the union a third party in the scenario?
Loop 101 Fuuko 🤫
If I do Gojo vs Union it’ll probably be a series of 1v1s against the original roster to see who can/can’t beat him, and then a separate section for Loop 101
@@TheSaladBaranother idea would be putting jjk characters to complete the UMA quests
@@TheSaladBarI can’t wait to see that vid Lol. I wanna see just how badly Hakari gets countered
Ultimate Kars upon existing had already perfected and improved upon a technique that was the bane of his existence, so much so that the technique possessed properties that not even hamon from masters like Jonathan had. Upon landing in the JJK world, he would most likely instantly gain cursed energy and would most likely be more potent than sukuna on first use
The Gojo part is just "ifs" and "maybe". Entirely speculation. You bet on Gojo's domain maybe not taking instant effect and Kars somehow having the ability to turn his brain off. In the series his brain turned off. By itself. The time he spent in space was unspecified, therefore meaning he didn't think to turn off his brain/isn't able to do it. It was just him going insane. Like any of us would. Besides, even if we give him that, you have to remember it is not just information. It is stimuli. Gojo's domain bombards the brain with stimulation on top of raw information. So even if he "turns it off", it is useless. He still has a brain to access, so it will still be flooded by the time he "reopens" it. A drooling mess is all he'll ever be, even if he "acts on instinct". No. That still needs a brain. However small, the body requires a brain to operate. And guess what Unlimited Void damages? The brain. Iq won't help against it. One could even go as far as to say Mahito's domain clears. After all, we don't know how Kars could be affected by having his body permanently altered to Mahito's whim. I mean, the people he turns into toys are brainless. And guess what Kars needs? A brain. He needs it to function.
Unlimited Void ends the gauntlet. Your point about surviving it is moot. Jogo is a curse. He has no brain to injure. That's why he "survived". Curses are just stunned. Whereas humans are specifically brain damaged. Sukuna tanked 0.1 seconds of it and he faced immense damage cause of it. He simply had a dead man's switch in Mahoraga. Kars doesn't have that.
It all ends here. Kars has no way to bypass Infinity. It became automatic. Meaning his perception is irrelevant. Objects get stopped no matter what, depending on criteria which remains unspecified. It works even in his sleep. Which he doesn't/barely needs.
Hollow purple is not space erasure. It is an "imaginary mass". But this "mass" might as well be erasure. From what we've seen, it is the "unstoppable force" that appears so many times in scenarios. It effectively deletes objects it comes in contact with, as we've seen many times. Watch the aftermath of every purple and you'll see uniformity in it's destruction. Trees aren't ripped out. They get grinded to dust. Same with sukuna. His body is fuming because it is effectively being ground into nothing by this ever advancing, unstoppable mass. Things are blown up or ripped apart by it. They are effectively erased. Just not in the way people keep speculating. With it turning objects imaginary or something like that.
Gojo's molecular weakness is the only part where he falls short. Kars may be able to form something with such an attack, but Gojo's six eyes will inform him of the impending threat from cursed energy alone. Kars is the ultimate lifeform and his energy will reflect that. So? Domain Expansion. He may have taken his chances with Sukuna cause he gauged his ability from their previous meetings. But Kars is new. And a domain would end it.
Kars is fast, but not as fast as you guys make him out to be. After all, Joseph wasn't outright incinerated by him. I mean, come on guys. He barely kept up with a plane. Joseph had time to fly to some island too. Kars is blown out of proportion when his speed feats are completely different on and off the ground. His speed is irrelevant as much as Naruto characters when they vanish. He truly isn't what people make him out to be. Sure, we would love for him to be this massively faster than light dude with the speed to end everything and outrun everything. But he couldn't even catch a plane in time. And that is enough for me to say he gets caught in any domain there is.
He survived for some time in the volcano cause that's as far as any organism could. Meaning even Jogo can win in his domain if he sinks Kars in lava for long enough. He wouldn't survive if Kars gets close, but he has the AP to kill.
Domains are what this all comes down to. And they are such bullshit that Kars can't dream of defeating them unless he deploys his own. And even if he does, he'd need a little time to decipher their ins and outs. Like with Hamon. He'd be a monster with CE, but he'd need to experience it first. Which when he does, it is game over. Domains are the be all, end all. Extreme temperatures end him, soul manipulation ends him, UV ends him. Kars can go play with someone else, but no one is giving him the time to amass the tools necessary to fight in jjk. Not when insta lose abilities like Domains exist.
domains only work on people with ce
@@AdamThomas-vf4op kars will have ce. Like any civilian who got brain crashed in the subway. He isn't Toji. He isn't under a heavenly restriction. Those are rare.
Holy shit you’re spitting🔥
@@edionita 1 i lost my phone ok thats why im replying now 2 only humans have ce
@@AdamThomas-vf4op no. I don't know where you got that. Cursed energy is born of negative emotions. And Kars, as an intelligent being, is more than capable of emotions. Be they negative or positive. So he would have cursed energy.
Kars from JJK: "with this infinity i hollow mahoraga"
*sprouts infinite hands* "BOOGIE WOOGIE!"
Not gonna lie, I feel like we're REALLY OVERESTIMATING KARS ADAPTING TO WEIRD PHENOMENA while he 1: LETS people live and run and plan to fulfill his ego, 2: Didn't even instantly adapt to lava, and has an extreme learning curve left to go, 3: While incredibly smart, is dealing with people who are just as smart (Todo) or have lived just as long (Heian characters), and are also underestimating JJK Characters. Infinity traps characters like a giant net as show with Jogo, so why can't Gojo just selectively choose to only let cursed energy inside infinity, and then we all spam attacks and let Mahoraga adapt to his regeneration until kingdom come. The reasoning for why Mahitos soul manipulation wouldn't work is EXTREMELY flimsy considering Kars has control over the body, not the soul, and it's stated directly that you can't just override a change to the soul. And sure, JJK characters all working together would have a tough time, But there's so few loss conditions, especially considering we can just Hakari and Mahoraga meat shield until Urame flash freezes. Anyways in the recent chapters, Hakari was instantly frozen by Urame, so she clearly has the capability to go absolute Zero when she really needs to. It's just such a Kars highball fest even though I do believe he clears 99% of the verse in 1 on 1's (Save Gojo, Mahoraga, and possibly Yuta in his domain.) Hell Jacobs ladder was never even considered as an attack that could vaporize Kars if strong enough.
11:56 so black holes, the theory is that it destroys matter and practically reduces it to pure energy, which resides at the singularity.
cursed energy and cursed techniques are stored in the brain, so I don't think kars could tank the zip bomb effects of infinite void unless he awakened his cursed energy and had advanced enough control of it to withstand infinity and adapt
If kars changed the shape of his brain then the domains effect would be lessened as it works less the more unlike a human brain a creature has and that's why jogo wasn't instantly lobotomized
@@mansonic1why would Kars know how IV works? He would just get lobotomised and sukunas fire arrow also kills (but he needs to trap Kars in a domain)
@@mansonic1 Not the more unlike human, curses' brains are completely different than human or any natural animal brain. The overload of information will at least stun him especially if he's caught for several minutes in the void
Kars iq: 400
@@ManuelDietrichsteiner so? Todo iq 500,000
One thing to say about this video, the AP scaling and calculations for cars are pretty bad to put it lightly. How is Kars large city level or higher when you showed scenes of him getting hit and pierced by objects only at escape velocity? How would Part 1 Dio be relative to Part 3 Dio's AP when the two are only compared when regarding Dio's physical body and abilities (which btw can get pierced casually by glass ?) or how Kars quite literally is getting melted by magma but his body somehow scales to those large city levels or higher? The metrics to get Kars high are pretty bad and completely ignoring consistencies in the show.
For the JJK characters, truly its easier to get them to large island level with simple creation feats with domains and stuff. Yuji creating a city in his domain, Jogo does a mountain, low tier Dagon literally creates an island + a sea but we just ignore all of it and assume Kars is stronger with not only vague scaling lines but also while ignoring objects of lower power output hurting him? give us a break
Also, this video uses a massive amount of assumption with again, not much good explanation. Ppl in jojo can only see and interact with stands when they themselves have stands, it isnt a given for anybody at all.. Kars doesnt have a stand, thus where is proof he could even interact with the disaster curses? The whole "he has better senses than Toji" argument is bad too since Kars doesnt have any feats of being able to see the enviromental changes as indepth as Maki/Toji, thats the only reason they can "see" the curses, Kars has never shown feats of this level of atmospheric pressure detection with his eyes yet you just assume "oh yeah, he could!" its a lack luster argument.
You should show more statements on how you got Kars 100x above Joseph and explain more indepth on why he is 200-900x stronger than Joseph, randomly putting on numbers and statements without solid proof only sounds ignorant more than anything, less than a convincing argument. Also, scale both character, even if briefly to give ppl a good consensus because this video lacks a huge amount of detail depth and explanation, relying purely on assumptions and guesses if we can even call it that.
JJK glazers are going wild in this comment ngl
JJK glazers when their verse can’t hollow purple its way out of any problem:
@@Humansarebetter1 Kars failed to catch up to a WW2 crop duster plane lmao
@@romppiainen that’s because the plane was German
@@romppiainenGojo ran out of breath after running for five minutes
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first time i've seen power scaling/comparing and it actually is logical and makes sense, great video
Kars was not faster than light. Not even close. He was faster than humans could see, which is still very fast, but nowhere near the speed of light.
Powerscallers call anything speed of light, i doubt they have any idea of How fast light rlly is
12:50 actually, that's not how Hawking radiation works. I don't really understand it myself, but that laymens explaination is that virtual particals are constantly coming into and out of existence every second. At the event horizon of a black hole, if two virtual particles come into existence right at the edge of the event horizon, and one is inside the event horizon, and one is outside the event horizon, the virtual particles are instantly separated or something, and the virtual particle on the outside of the even horizon, instead of instantly evaporating because of its other half, is given momentum? from the black hole, resulting in a net loss of energy? from the black hole causing it to lose mass and shrink. I think? So even if Kars was inside of a black hole, he isn't the virtual particle pairs that are blinking in and out of existence, so he'd never actually be able to escape a black hole.
then what the actual fuck happens to the mass within the singularity
does it get converted into energy and then into a virtual particle mass or something
@@Jamlord2061 I've got no actual idea, but the most likely outcome based on my current understanding, is poof. It's effectively separated from the universe forever.
Yes
Mahito: Haha! Ive used Idle Transfiguration on you!
Kars: **changes back**
Idle transfiguration effects the soul, kars is cooked
@romppiainen thats if he can even touch him
Kars is speed of light remember
@sbenhaba yet he failed up to Joseph on a WW2 crop duster And failed to cancel out the speed of a volcano eruption
@romppiainen Plot armor. If Joseph had died we wouldn't have the series, and it wouldn't be interesting. Some things have to go against the lore occasionally.
@trulyagoose novel kars beat joseph i think ❓
Oh boy the power-scaling is real..
Alright time to dissect what I can.
1: The force of the 'sun' comes from the idea that hamon itself is sunlight. But hamon users don't actually burn people with hamon the way vampires do, or how vampires burn from sunlight in general. The power is obviously not literal, narratively that makes no sense. That's not say perfect kar's use of hamon isn't impressive since it CAN melt human flesh, but take not that it didn't even vaporize the flesh and instead slowly burned away Joseph's...knee. Like, not even the full knee either.
2: Joseph is not a town level character let alone city character. Neither is Jotaro. They never 'level a town'. Jotaro defeats the population of a small town, not the town itself. That's like claiming being able to kill 100 people puts you at town level. Stands also do not scale with stand users. Jojo characters are notoriously tough but their strength largely comes from their stands. Likewise Joseph and Johnathon (at least part 2 joseph) DO NOT SCALE With stand users. You can't use them in the same metric. Worse still, is that a large part of stand fights are centered on abilities over raw power.
Kars was never faster then light. He'd have no issues catching up to a plane barely moving above mach 1 in that case post evolution. Even reaction-speed wise, it contradicts the fact that Kars can be overtaken by bullets until he busts out light sword, he can get thrown off by an explosion which does not travel anywhere near the speed of light, can fight HUMAN Characters that are only marginally superhuman at best. Its just as much as an outlier as Polnareff catching a light-speed stand in a specific situation that he created the opportunity to do so.
3: Kars adaptations has physical limits. He can't become immune to the heat of lava, and even the adaptation he was only temporary, the narrator explains that it can let him survive for some minutes under the heat of lava. While no doubt strong, his adaptations aren't purely physical and something like burning to death is very lethal to him. No doubt if you expose him to an attack much hotter then the passive heat of Lava, (which Jogo and Sukuna certainly fulfill) he'd be vaporized with likely no cells to regenerate from. This also extends to otherwise massively powerful attacks like hollow purple and so on. This something you seemed to acknowledge but you have the unfounded assumptions that kar's adaptations can somehow surpass what he's shown to be able to do. His adaptations are, specifically, derived from biological changes. As far as we see throughout Jojo you can't 'adapt' raw power. Evidently the molten shell he creates is a physical adaptation, not a 'power' one like making his cells 'stronger'. He's evidently not invincible.
4: I do agree that Kars would both have cursed energy, and would certainly be able to incorporate cursed energy manipulation through his evolution. However there are two caveats to this.
4-A: While the ability to use CE is rooted in the brain, therefor biology. Power growth and potential seem to be rooted in personality and emotions, as cursed energy itself is emotions itself. So while Kars can to some degree use his own ability to improve his CE powers, its not as simple as his ability to master say, hamon. It would actual take training beyond just basic manipulation.
4-B: Cursed techniques are granted from the soul. And can't be 'given'. Mahito doesn't create cursed techniques, despite being able to change the soul and biology of others. He can grant people that have techniques but no cursed energy to unlock cursed energy and therefor use his techniques. This is first evidence by Junpei who already had technique but had not the CE potential to use, and with Kenjaku later when he used mahito's technique to do both, grant humans with a technique but no CE the ability to use CE, and awaken vessels he planted ahead of time out of their hosts. If changing biology/soul is all you needed to do to create or copy cursed techniques then Kenjaku didn't need to specify people already born with techniques. But clearly that's not how that works.
In other words, Kars would not have direct access to any cursed techniques which limits what he can even do with cursed energy. In theory he can try eating cursed objects to go for the vessel but that complicates things further.
4-C: Originally I would have at least agreed that inherited traits like six-eyes could be copied, but... again soul manipulation is unable to do this. So gaining access to such traits is implied to be more then just altering the soul/biology.
4-D: Now onto CE itself. Again, his output is highly debatably and not really concrete, but in terms of what he can learn? Simple domain requires to be taught by a user with a binding vow, its unlikely he'd have the means to learn it. Falling blossom emotion is more likely but that won't defend him from domains entirely. Hollow-Whisker is too obscure but maybe Kenjaku could teach him some ideas. I don't think domain expansions are possible without a technique, that also extends to Domain amplification. So his options in that route are limited. reversed cursed technique is pointless since he can already heal without it, doesn't have any techniques to imbue it with, maybe he can use it like hamon to be super effective against cursed spirits but thats about it.
Veils on the other hand and general barrier techniques can have their own advantages and I can see kars being clever about it if he takes the more long-term scheming approach. They aren't useful for combat directly but it can help him to isolate or trap others among other strategies.
Charm-based shikigami are probably worthless.
5: obviously giving kars any amount of cursed energy will let him interact with cursed spirits. Though I think it needs to be pointed out as a minor correction, you don't need to be able to use cursed energy to SEE cursed spirits, but actually harming them you need cursed energy. Even when Maki/Toji have their awakened perceptions they still need cursed tools to actually exorcise curses. This is irrelevant here because I do believe Kars would have access to cursed energy, but just felt I had to clarify that.
6: Its *debatable* if Kars can really acknowledge the soul. While souls exist in jojo, its important to note that most if not all stands are incapable of doing any permanent damage to souls. Abilities that affect souls in JJK don't necessarily lead characters to be aware of one's souls, Nobara is a good example of that as resonance lets her strike the soul directly through her technique, but she can't actually see her own soul and defend it from attacks, or is likewise even aware of souls.
sorcerers CAN see ghosts, like we see with Miwa and Mechamaru or Rika and Yuta. So just being able to see ghosts or have techniques that affect them like specific stands aren't really evidence in of itself.
And being aware of the soul doesn't make you immune to mahito, it just enables you the ability to defend against it, but it shaves away a lot of energy to do so. Add to this, Mahito's Domain expansion, and frankly I don't see Kars winning that.
6.5: No arguments against yoru.
7: Kars does not have the damage output to kill Mahoraga. You need to be able to kill it in one blow before it can adapt to the type of damage dealt. There is nothing in Kar's kit that demonstrates such a level of fire power, nor would even being generous with CE reinforcement could kars physically put mahoraga down. Though, conversely, while Maha can adapt to defensive techniques and abilities I'm not sure if it can do something like permanently kill Kars. (Then again with the application of world cleave I might reconsider that.) So thats arguably more of a stalemate.
8: Kenjaku has the best hand to hand in the series, gravity manipulation, RCt, Domain expansion, and cursed spirit manipulation. he's almost 100% going to beat Kars lol.
9: Kars is not surviving a black hole.
10: no arguments against Higurama his toolkit is specifically useful for sorcerers. Although if he manages to get a death penalty on Kars he can absolutely kill him with the executioner sword. Kars doesn't have the stats to one shot him.
11: kars has no ability to get past infinity, unlimited void stuns him at the very least, a well placed hollow purple has the power to end him. Enough said. Gojo easily takes it and its his fight to lose since kars can't touch him. The domain *will* immediately affect him, but he probably functions more like a cursed spirit at that point where the unlimited information doesn't do any significant damage. Just stuns him in place and for some time after the domain ends. But combined with hollow purple, and Gojo should be ample ability to just end up there and vaporize him completely.
Gojo does have practically infintite stamina though, and that should be the end of it.
Gojo also DOES have practically infinite stamina. He's able to keep up infinity 24/7, he is constantly refreshing his brain with RCt and six-eyes reduces the cost so much that he can do both ad-infinitum. Unless if he's spamming domains and purples his ce level will never drop. And as we see in the flashback arc, even before he had 24/7 infinity he was still able to keep it on for 3 days straight with no sleep. Well, well, well outside any relevant timeframe to worry about stamina.
12: Sukuna opens fuga and Kars dies. End of Disc.
If I were to give Kars a rating based on stats and not abilities, I'd grade him as either a low-special grade curse or high grade 1 sorcerer. Natural physical prowess does scale well with reinforcement so I'd imagine his capability overall might be comparable to start of or end of shibuya Yuji, on the account of probably having less cursed energy but more natural strength. Factoring in his abilities on adaptations and near immortality he'd certainly be a special grade. But stuck on the lower end.
2:02 That picture is kinda... Sus
That’s is his tail but why is it there 😭
11:30 the black hole Yuki made has mass of solar system ...though yes it would take time
12:28 - that is because the said black hole was put in a barrier
It should be also stated that the abilities of every lifeform also applies to the fictional lifeforms of Kars’ verse, he just never had a chance to show them off. Those air jets he used to attempt to escape space came from Wammu. So in theory, he should have the abilities of Esidisi too, multiplied by 100 at that. So he has the ability to heat up his blood by up to 50k degrees, and use his veins to fire that blood at his opponents. He could even pull out a Divine sandstorm 100 times stronger than the one used by Wammu. The Normal divine sandstorm was already powerful enough to tear through stone structures like cloth and fatally wound a person, so Kars’ version could straight up pulverize people. There’s also many more things he could do like the Atmospheric rift, which originally had a drawback that wouldn’t apply to Kars due to his powerful healing (also 100 times stronger lol).
That’s a REALLY sexy picture you keep using of Kars
Granted, there's barely any others
I like the video but I have one major issue.
You assume that Kars adaptation is perfect and automatic. Like if something happens to him he just automatically adapts perfectly to the phenomenon like Mahoraga or Darwin from X-Men.
However his “death” scene proves this isn’t the case. He tried everything he could to save himself from his fate but it was futile. Kars has to *Think* about what he is going to adapt to and how.
He wouldn’t be able to adapt to UV because his mind would be paralyzed. he would need to find a way to adapt to an unlimited amount of information which he needs some kind of model to base the adaptation off of. If he could just adapt to something without that criteria he would have never been defeated In the way he did.
He wouldn't be able to adapt anyway. Gege explained UV is like repeating A from Apple without forever, without get to the next letter. That's for all the senses. He would literally be stun locked. One concentrated Hollow Purple and he is gone.
P.S. That's if Kars let's himself get caught in the Domain.
@@hitogi06 kars is too fast tho
@@hitogi06 Something kinda glossed over here, Kars and the other pillar men are impossibly quick learners. The baby of the group Santana was able to figure out the English language without having ever heard/seen it in seconds. Kars shows this when he figured out hamon having never tried it before(due to it immediately killing him before) and had the strongest ever hamon.
Basically what I'm saying is upon finding himself in the jjk verse surrounded by curse energy or even having some of his own, he'd immediately become the greatest jujutsu sorcerer of all time, likely with every technique ever made.
Just make infinite brains
Joseph had a whole castle of plot armor, but no one gets angry because of that... thats something very curious, inst it?
its cause in part 2 he was a trickster character. Tricksters/gag characters are usually universally liked in human fiction. Its why people arent upset about how op Sun Wukong is : he is among the ultimate gag/tricksters.
Personally, I think if Kars fights Mahoraga right out of the gate, he'd lose. Even if we give him a little bit of cursed energy as a baseline, the battle would basically be a race to see who can adapt to the other faster, and I think Kars would lose that race just due to being as new as he is to the entire concept of jjk's magic system. If Mahoraga can draw out his attacks, and survive long enough to adapt to each one before Kars gets a solid grasp on cursed energy and how to use it, Kars is cooked. Even if raga fights Kars later, after he's gotten more powerful with cursed energy, I still think the fight would be a lot closer then you made it seem, even if Kars would win in the end. You really lowballed Mahoraga in this vid.
I gotta disagree. I get your point but actually, it's Kars that was lowballed. First, the fact that with his intelligence and processing power, him being too slow to learning cursed energy is more than unrealistic. You can't even argue he'd take too long to properly use it.
Then there's hamon that's been ignored in the video. People forget that it can do crazy stuff that in no time, Kars could improve over in no time. Just by a basis, his hamon is stronger than Joseph's by a hundred times, rivaling the heat of the sun. Then there's that clairvoyance ability of Tonpetty from masters arguably weaker than him, which Kars would surpass with ease. So realistically, him being able to predict the future should be considered as very likely.
Mahoraga's adaptation can be countered like that.
We know that power is consistent in the nature of Hamon as the stand of both Jonathan and Joseph had to do with clairvoyance because of hamon.
Going back on the Cursed energy subject. Kars has absolute control over his biological functions. That naturally includes emotions. So generating, let's say, a superhuman level of anger to power ungodly one hit attacks is definitely something he'd figure out to do, if even I can think of it. Frankly, the moment he sees a domain, he'll know how to make his own, and it would be much stronger than any other for that very reason.
Also also, Kars is supposed to be blood lusted here. Mahoraga couldn't adapt to a serious attack fast enough.
@@51gn4l50ulthing is Kars knew about hamon for centuries whereas he’s just seeing cursed energy
@@IsThatAThaiName Yeah but Kars never knew how it worked and never knew how such power was accessed. That was until after he became ultimate life form and saw Joseph(who basically mastered hamon) and completely mastered it and his hamon was 200x(?) more powerful than Joseph's right off the bat.
@@loppedoffhead1 I mean they definitely would have studied hamon as it was the only thing bar the sun that could harm them
@@IsThatAThaiName They could barely understand how Hamon works(they knew that it was connected to breathing since it is kinda obvious after continuous fighting but then they didn't know much more about it aside from that)
Anytime you see a “Black hole” in anime it’s probably like the Mob Psycho 100 version made by Ishiguro…. They’re not true black holes because they don’t destroy the planet, but rather just high gravity areas mimicking black holes
Thank you for this video and it’s funny bc I’ve been thinking about Mahito vs Kars
Hey Salad I was just wondering when u finish the Naruto Series are u planning on doing how some anime characters might be able to pass the Chunin Exams in a future video
Naruto is fucking mid
4:21
Ok....that is completely wrong , in reaction speed and short range defensive combat speed he is faster then light but overall is only super sonjc
Jojo fans are the worst powerscalers so don't bother
it is true lol most strong characters in jjba are faster then light
okay NEVERMIND it is not true but he is definetely fast, thats a fact possibly faster then jjk characters. and he is also wrong by comparing kars to stands
@@-cryogen-8512 Wrong to compare kars to the most powerful of stands but you can compare him to stands in general. If kars were to be able to 1v1 with stands, I think he can pretty comfortably beat King Crimson(since what is it gonna do to him).
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 Yap yap yap yap yap....
kars is a walking epitome of "i understand it now"
Kars literally made a lava armor while burning in it, no way a hollow purple can kill him.
in gojos windup for hollow purple, bro can just move out of the way 😭💀
@@qhavityso we haven't seen jjk at all, gojo deployed imaginary purple in the span of a nanosecond against toji, as time seemed frozen around hom. Hollow purple erases matter, so kars is vaporized, infinite void is instant, cant adapt, and kars failed to catch up to a plane
@@romppiainentime didn't stop, genius. The rocks just appeared to be stopped because of Infinity 💀💀💀 "nanosecond" bro yapped about Purple was several minutes and it took several seconds to travel to Toji
@romppiainen respectfully, anyone could just sit down and talk about their day while gojo takes five hours mixing up some elements from the periodic table.
@@somersaultinggiraffe1901 toji could've ran away then
But Kars couldn't catch up to Joseph on 1930s plane
Until he did
Yh clearly not lightspeed
@@IsThatAThaiNameyeah but not instantly, that's makes his travel speed lowk garbo
@@Isotolerant It is Jojos, where movement speed basically nonexistent while hax and reaction/striking speed is everything. Like we have a crippled guy that can shred through infinity like toilet paper and the president of america(jjk aint beating the president).
I mean, he was catched off guard, literally imagine going to kill someone, its a dummy, and the before you even process it, you get hit by a airplane with a spike on it, th
I guess he could drink/absorb curses, and sorcerers to gain powers and abilities. His brain could probably handle more CTs. Sukuna would make it his mission to fight him and take his body.
Get oneshot by gojo, infinity gg
@@Sukunover he could just alter his brain to withstand his domain
@@tonythetwitch5813 his entire body seems to be able to think as an extension of his mind, but unlimited void would be affecting anything inside of it so it might make the damage worse.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 what I mean is he could adapt to it body and mind
@@tonythetwitch5813he would get one shot before fully adapting.
Lets be honest, if banishing someone to a billions of years of inescapable prison is an instawin. For all intents and purposes someone not being a threat to you for the rest of human existence is a win for that fighter.
Everyone seems to forget that JJK literally has Takaba-
Cuz only reality manipulation can beat him
Takaba got oneshot by kenjaku
@sbenhaba he is still alive and was never dead, wdym
And you forgot that takaba is a gag character, putting any gag character in a serious 1v1 comparison just wouldn't make sense
19:35 😭😭😭😭 Nah, I’d win.
Kars could probably change his brain to avoid UV, some creatures can do stuff even while asleep or otherwise unable to do anything after all.
This is a dumb thing I've seen somewhere else, but technically, he can just tell himself to stop thinking to not need to digest the infinite stimuli getting to him, like he did in space.
@@yousmelllike5082 and then what? While he's not thinking he tells himself to think again 🤡🤡🤡?
@@yousmelllike5082 He could probably copy jellyfish or fungi to live without a brain to avoid UV.
Thing is I'm pretty sure unlimited void streams information into a target consciousness, not necessarily the brain, so it works deeper than on a biological level. Still even if that wasn't the case he still has 100% accuracy hollow purple which Kars can't really do anything about.
@@dataroaming7512 If Kars was smart, he could do what one celled organisms do and split himself into different parts to have one Kars outside the domain. And also Pillar Men can regen from even dust, and Kars has better regen and HP doesn't really destroy all of you. That one plant curse survived it.
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Actually, to what i know, Kars did not get frozen, he actually got petrified because he tried to adapt whit the wrong thing.
mahoraga would adapt to that easily
just shows that kars adaptation if he even has it is very garbage
being reduced to a statue in space lmao
@@Am-fp7pn it’s just that kars doesn’t really adapt, he just transforms or create something to negate something else.
Mahoraga just literally adapts do anything, if he isn’t one shot he will survive
@@Am-fp7pnbro acting if mahoraga could adapt a flame arrow first try
@@Am-fp7pn Kars' base speed in Earth is definitely more than 33 mach; however, he can't use this speed in space due to not having air, thus he got defeated because he couldn't manage to figure out how to turn his mass into energy in half a dozen seconds. Mahoraga being put in the same situation would also be defeated via BFR as it wasn't able to dodge fire arrow, lest adapt to being launched at more than mach 33, ten times more than the supposedly near-top-tier speed in jjk - the wheel simply wouldn't turn fast enough before Mahoraga be stranded. And unfortunately, Mahoraga wasn't shown to have any speed adaptation, else it wouldn't be hit by Gojo's black flash or hollow nuke, especially since Mahoraga had been hiding in Megumi's soul, adapting all the time.
@@cornofthefarm3554 mahoraga can adapt to anything as long as it doesnt kill it in 1 shot
this was already stated
kars simply falls behind in adaptation
mahoraga learned to cut apart the fabric space itself just to beat gojos infinity
and adapted to verbatim infinite pressure from yorozus true sphere, essentially 1 shotting it
the adaptations that mahoraga possesses is more akin to reality warping while kars just manipulates his dna
you tell me which is superior
Here’s a fun video idea: Could Toji hunt Fuko and Andy from Undead Unluck?
Fun idea tbh. But like there’s definitely no shot. He has abosultely no way of killing Andy, and he can’t trap him. And honestly he loses Badly to fuuko so
@@DestinySleepy yeah I think that’s the case too but it’s still a fun topic to discuss
@@FlawlessWallace3350bro toji would lose to fuuko alone what the hell is he doing against a island level metoer slamming on to him Andy arguably solos jjk
He could use his soul splitting katana and his famous glock
@@motoara1703 yeah but undead Unluck just got some massive soul related amps that can counter it
12:44 There is nothing to actually take away heat from Kars, heat is just kinetic energy and there has to be a medium to take away that kinetic energy, no such medium exists in the black hole, or it would take such a long time it isn't even worth considering
…Kars couldn’t catch a world war 2 plane. I don’t think homie is “way beyond light speed”😂
He literally dodged the light beam that Stroheim fired at him, he’s FTL easily and that was just a base kars
Mfw i get caught off guard by a fucking plane
Jojo powerscalers actually reading jojo and not cherrypicking outliers challenge : IMPOSSIBLE
Remember, these are the same people who use the fight where Polnareff states he is slower than light as evidence that he is faster than light. Don't expect much intelligence
@@SakuSayaa and in that same scene he gets tagged by a machine gun 🤡🤡🤡.
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 jjk power scalers actually read what you scale instead of taking every statement as gospel challenge:
Like are we forgetting what happened in that scene? He said he didn't know if it would work, but clearly he pulled it off and it SHOWS HIM pulling out the stand and slashing while the beam was traveling, thats straight up light timing
Reminds me of every time someone pulls up a lightning timer feat from jjk and its just a dude looking in the general direction rather than dodging or blocking.
I like most of the video but my biggest gripe is that part where you say the soul is a thing in jojos so Kars might have knowledge on it so mahito gets countered and loses. HWAT? that doesn’t make any sense 😭 just because something is a concept in a verse doesn’t mean a smart character in said verse knows about it. And even if Kars did know about the soul, there’s no reason to think he would have the ability to interact with it. There no evidence Kars even know about the soul, and it’s even worse to say that he could interact with it. Let’s just say he could. To what extent? Only his own? Would he gain mahitos ability? I just don’t think it makes sense. There’s also no reason to believe that mahito couldn’t just destroy his soul and kill him instantly. What you said just doesn’t make a lot of sense in my opinion.
Edit: also Kars would be effected by gojos domain. It doesn’t overload the brain with infinite information, it makes the brain infinitely process the same peice of information. When your brain functions normally, if processes things one after another. In other words, A, then B, then C, etc. infinite void would make your brain infinitely process A, A, A, etc. over and over for as long as the domain is active. Considering Kars has no domain counter (probably) he gets hit with this and then gets hollow purpled.
Couldn't Mahoraga just pull a doomsday, and have his body produce an aura that kills, and destroys all forms of life.
He could have done that with either Sukuna or Gojo but he definitely hasn't. If for whatever reason he does do that, thats also assuming Maho doesn't get one tapped
@@arkkon2740 he could only adapt to 1 thing at a time. Also, Sukuna was forcing Mahoraga to only adapt to Gojo’s CT, and limitless could block out toxins, along with RCT.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 if he can only adapt to one thing at a time, what makes it seem like he would manifest a kill aura? Not to mention that Kars would probably catch this after one or two adaptations and try to end it faster
@@arkkon2740 he infinitely adapts to whatever concept makes contact with him. Kars a being that is the concept of life.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 that doesnt mean a punch from Kars is gonna give him a kill aura, plus the fight with Sukuna should have been a stomp if he can get hit once, adapt, and then that specific person can't do anything
Two things about black holes. One, since they're extremely gravitationally dense, wouldn't that affect how time passes closer to the black hole meaning time would be different for Kars. I remember reading that because of the infinite density at the event horizon, time kinda just stops.
But two, it's known that light can't even escape a black hole, but you said that Kars is faster than light, so he might be able to just run out of it.
The amount of stretching done in this video puts every yoga instructor on earth to shame. I love JJBA and Kars but where do you get all these power estimates?? Some of the scaling is absurd and most of the VS portion is based on assumptions!
Feats i mean we clearly see him outspeed light
@@Normopath his abilities let him reflect light, he can do flashy stuff but he's not ftl. The "Dodging UV light" should only scale to faster than a lightswitch. Not light itself. The rest of the scaling is stretching and only has validity if stands have the same strength as their users, which is absurd and untrue.
Doesn’t change much
I think the freezing against kars wouldnt work because he can just use hamon. after all the only reason he couldnt survive space freezing in part 2 was because he cant do hamon with no oxygen, while if he can do hamon he wouldnt get freeze.
We saw with Jonathan vs Dio Hamon cannot unfreeze someone’s body from being frozen solid, it took a flame to do that.
@@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384 kars hamon being 200 times stronger than normal hamon:
@@Jane-yk8gm I mean fair but I think it’s a mercy we should give JJk for honor’s sake.
Lol silly. Taking it too literal. Joseph beat Kars. If Kars actually moved at the speed of light they would all be dead. The cannon, including how it is illustrated, obviously isn’t light speed. Think of it like a Star Wars laser. Very clearly not ftl.
None of them are ftl. Jotaro couldn’t keep up with bullet train speed (part 6). Crazy diamond is 300km/hr and is as fast if not faster than star platinum.
If we are going to argue scientifically accurate speeds of light cannons in an anime full of vampires and things that can stop time then we must apply that standard everywhere. Obviously the black hole in jjk isn’t realistic. Let’s think about the fact nothing with mass can reach the speed of light and if it could even something with the mass of a golf ball moving at the speed of light would cause catastropic damage to earth. It wouldn’t punch a hole through someone, it would literally cause a shockwave that would obliterate everything on the surface of the planet.
Most people don’t really know how fast light really is. If Kars actually moved his hand at that speed, the action of blocking it would kill all life on the planet.
I do need to stress that gojo's Domain isn't something you can really just tank. It is constantly forcing your brain to process an infinite amount of useless information in infinite detail. Because 100% of your brain power is being used you cant really use your brain to do anything else, hence you cant move. This also means that any active abilities are negated and you cant activate new ones (as long as they require the brain to activate or maintain).
It also kills you by 1 of 2 ways your brain uses all the energy in its body, or your brain fry's itself (more likely).
Regardless of Kars's regeneration or capacity for thought (unless he can process infiite things which i would really need to see) he would at least be stunned
Should i start watching jojo?
Yes, tho i recommend more the manga as the medium of choice
No it's overrated as hell
yes
Better anime out there
Try meduka box